One-Eyed Richmond Forum
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: mightytiges on October 31, 2004, 05:23:21 PM
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What's everyone's tips?
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No. Horse Jockey Barrier Weight Odds
1. VINNIE ROE P Smullen 10 58 6.50
2. MAMOOL F Dettori 21 57 26.00
3. ELVSTROEM N Rawiller 3 56.5 10.00
4. MUMMIFY D Nikolic 15 56 21.00
5. MAKYBE DIVA G Boss 7 55.5 4.20
6. MEDIA PUZZLE D Oliver 11 55.5 15.00
7. RAZKALLA K McEvoy 16 55 51.00
8. DELZAO S King 2 54 13.00
9. DISTINCTION D Beadman 12 54 15.00
10. HUGS DANCER G Childs 4 52.5 14.00
11. ROMAN ARCH L Currie 5 52.5 101.00
12. ZAZZMAN TBA 6 52.5 101.00
13. GREY SONG D Beasley 24 52 26.00
14. LASHED J Cassidy 20 52 81.00
15. STRASBOURG S Baster 22 52 41.00
16. PACIFIC DANCER M Rodd? 8 51.5 11.00
17. SHE'S ARCHIE C Brown 9 51.5 14.00
18. ANOTHER WARRIOR J Byrne 13 49.5 26.00
19. HARD TO GET L Nolen 14 51 81.00
20. UPSETTHYM R McLeod 23 51 81.00
21. DON RAPHAEL S Seamer 19 50.5 51.00
22. ON A JEUNE J Bowditch 18 50.5 51.00
23. WINNING BELLE C Munce 17 49.5 51.00
24. CATCHMEIFYOUCAN M Walker 1 49 51.00
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Tip: Makybe Diva
Outsider: Another Warrior
Taking an unofficial long long weekend: Nup :( ... got to work Monday
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Makybe Diva will beat She.s Archie. ;)
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Makybe Diva
Vinnie Roe
Grey Song
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OER tipsters are on fire ;D :thumbsup :cheers
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Makybe Diva will beat She.s Archie. ;)
She certainly did :rollin :rollin .... so did every other horse in the field
I won one of the sweeps at work because I had horse 5 :thumbsup
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Who are you guys tipping?
I've gone for
6. Eye Popper
22. Leica Falcon
7. Railings
I would like to see the Diva win but it's going to be hard with 58kg and a dry firm track :(.
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I have the following 3 horse in the cup sweep at work:
3
17
18
Who ever they are ;D
I am tipping
the Diva if they don't scratch her - which I think they will now it's going to be 31 degrees
But if they do...
7- Railings
23 - Mr Celebrity
4 - Greys Inn because it's in the Tiger Colours :rollin
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I'm backing no6 Eye Popper.
If there was a Toe Curler I'd back that too. 8)
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I too am backing Railings as i got on it in the Caulfield Cup and am following it through.
The firm track is also bound to suit a horse like Leica Falcon also.
I currently have a key boxed trifecta on which includes:
To run 1st,2nd or 3rd
Makybe Diva, Railings, Eye Popper, Leica Falcon and Portland Singa
To run 2nd or 3rd
Vinnie Roe and Demerger
To run 3rd
Xcellent, Umbula and Strasborg
This cost $120 for a half unit(50 cents) and it give you 240 possible combinations for the trifecta.
I have thrown in 2 roughies for third in Umbula and Strasborg. Generally one pops up and these 2 horses are stayers who should be running out the trip.
Fingers crossed ;)
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Don't be suprised if no.5 Franklin Gardens sneaks in for a place!
I always look for value with my cup bets!
Also for anyone betting early, Flemington Race 3 No.2 (11:45am) Southern Crown is definetly worth having some dollars on him, currently $19!
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I am praying for Leica Falcon. Took 80-1 about it 6 weeks ago.
Best roughly is last years Brisbane cup winner Portland Singa. ;)
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wouldn't have a clue lol
Makybe Diva
Mr Celebrity
Greys Inn, not only because of the colours, but he's South African (me mum's South African and she only bets on grey horses, althugh this is not a grey i believe :rollin
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Also for anyone betting early, Flemington Race 3 No.2 (11:45am) Southern Crown is definetly worth having some dollars on him, currently $19!
Ran a close 2nd and payed $4.60 a place, hope some of you had a sprinke on it! :thumbsup
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How good is the mighty Diva?
Huge effort to get up again. Big run from On a Juene also, flashed home and nearly knocked it off.
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How good is the mighty Diva?
Yeah just a freak of a horse! The odds were against her but she still won comfortably.
This Diva vs Phar Lap comparison talk is a bit ridiculous. It's like comparing Royce Hart vs Wayne Carey (on-field lol) in footy. Both just the best in their respective era.
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How good is the mighty Diva?
This Diva vs Phar Lap comparison talk is a bit ridiculous. It's like comparing Royce Hart vs Wayne Carey (on-field lol) in footy. Both just the best in their respective era.
There shouldn't even be a comparison IMO.
Diva is a great horse, but she wasn't weighed out of it by 8 kgs like Phar Lap in 1931. I think that it is entirely possible that if Phar Lap had of carried no more than 60 instead of 68, stayed in Australia and not died aged 5, he would have won multiple cups. People are going on about Diva backing up from the Cox Plate, but Phar Lap won on all 4 days of the carnival in 1930.
I would have liked to have seen Diva go overseas for all of this year to prove herself on foreign ground.
Isn't it a sad coincidence that on a day when one of the worlds greatest horses was triumphant, another, Best Mate, had a heart attack and died.
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Comparing the two is like comparing Jack Titus (who IMO looks like an alien on the Richmond "past greats" section) and Richo!
Both champion goalkickers for the club, but played generations apart.
Horseracing has changed much over the past 70 years, as has footy.
A fairer comparison would be to Sunline, even though Sunline was more of a 1600/2000m horse.
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Who are you guys tipping?
Anyone taking a unofficial long weekend? :shh
From Centrebet: https://sports.centrebet.com/main.php?ssl=,&sbl=-2&scl=104515&sptid=2
1. YEATS (IRE) (4) (K. FALLON) 5.00
2. DELTA BLUES (JPN) (11) (Y. IWATA) 12.00
3. RAILINGS (2) (D. BEADMAN) 41.00
4. TAWQEET (USA) (9) (D. DUNN) 5.50
5. GEORDIELAND (FR) (10) (L. DETTORI) 17.00
6. HEADTURNER (19) (G.J. CHILDS) 61.00
7. SHORT PAUSE (GB) (17) (N CALLOW) 301.00
8. ACTIVATION (22) (M. RODD) 21.00
9. LAND `N STARS (GB) (6) (J.F. EGAN) 101.00
10. MAHTOUM (7) (C.W. BROWN) 201.00
11. ON A JEUNE (15) (D. GAUCI) 21.00
12. POP ROCK (JPN) (12) (D. OLIVER) 9.00
13. ZIPPING (20) (G. BOSS) 17.00
14. DIZELLE (21) (B SHINN) 19.00
15. ICE CHARIOT (1) (J. BYRNE) 201.00
16. KERRY O`REILLY (5) (C.E. LAMMAS) 26.00
17. ZABEAT (16) (O. DOLEUZE) 201.00
18. ART SUCCESS (13) (A. PATTILLO) 51.00
19. DEMERGER (23) (S. BASTER) 101.00
20. GLISTENING (GB) (24) (S. SEAMER) 81.00
21. MANDELA (14) (C. WILLIAMS) 21.00
22. DOLPHIN JO (18) (A SPITERI) 81.00
23. MAYBE BETTER (3) (C. MUNCE) 9.00
24. EFFICIENT (8) (C. NEWITT) 8.50
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Hi there this is my first post on OER!
Get on a couple of roughys each way on Tuesday.
Dolphin Joe
Geordieland
Zabeat yes Zabeat!
Eye Popper likely to win IMHO.
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Welcome to OER crackertiger :).
I'm going for ...
4. Tawqeet
23. Maybe Better
11. On a Jeune
Not sure if Efficient is a definite starter yet so I left it out.
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I like the form of Mandela out of the Geelong Cup.
Won very easily like Oliver did on Media Puzzle in the Geelong Cup, and then went on to win the Melbourne Cup.
Has been bought over from New Zealand especially for the cup and has had a good lead up to the race with solid work since the start of April and being freshened for 2-3 weeks between races.
I have followed Activation through the carnival also. Was a good run just behind Tawqeet in the Metrop and also the Caulfield Cup, so i think i will be backing the both of them.
Also taking a flexi boxed first 4 and hoping for some roughies :thumbsup
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Can someone inform me of this new betting type where you can just go the field for a trifecta and not have to pay the full amount but you get like a percentage of the ticket...as you can see i am an experienced gambler. ;D
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Its called Flexi betting Ramps and it applies to other bet types also.
I think the best way to describe it is if you want to place a bet trifecta, quaddie, first 4 etc and when you have these multiples type of bets the costs add up very quickly. So if the full value of your bet comes to $100 (make it even for example sake) and you only want to put $10 on the bet then you are only entitled to 10% of the dividend if you happen to win.
So if it pays $1000, you would get $100 back for your $10.
I hope this makes sense.
Great way to bet :thumbsup
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So to go the field in the cup how much will it cost to box it all up and do a flexi job and then hope some donkey wins? anyone know?
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seriouisly - geordieland - It's grey I like the greys it's named after my cat (sortof) and silks are black and yellow. WELL no other way has been working so I will now adopt the pizzed chicks approach.
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Ramps,
it woudl cost $720 to do a boxed trifecta for 10 horses.
24 would be huge, not even worth thinking about.
if you picked out 10 horses and put $72 on it you would get 10%, maybe pick 6 chances and 4 rouchies.
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I have Activation in the sweep at work (does anyone else have to work tomorrow :banghead)
So it's Activation for me :rollin
And because Boss is riding it - I think Zipping is worth a look
And just on aside regarding the above ............. I know absolutely NOTHING about horse racing :help ;D
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And just on aside regarding the above ............. I know absolutely NOTHING about horse racing :help ;D
Doesn't matter - and you can belieeeeve dat.
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I want to back Geordieland each way. Now i just have to get to the TAB. Don't bet on me getting there.
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And just on aside regarding the above ............. I know absolutely NOTHING about horse racing :help ;D
LOL. Join the club WP ;D :thumbsup
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Geordieland
It's a token pick because I can't get onto Centrebet to place a bet :banghead
On Melbourne Cup day, I'm predicting lots of hissy fits - like i just did lol
I think a Centrebet operator just fainted with the eloquence of my speech ;)
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LOL @ the crowd booing the jockeys as they were being presented before the race. That's shocking! Only Damien Oliver got some sort of a cheer.
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Geordieland
It's a token pick because I can't get onto Centrebet to place a bet :banghead
On Melbourne Cup day, I'm predicting lots of hissy fits - like i just did lol
I think a Centrebet operator just fainted with the eloquence of my speech ;)
;D
The TAB just couldn't do without my $1.50 each way lol.
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You reckon there'll be a protest?
I didn't pick Delta because it reminded me of Delta Goodrum lol
Hate her more now :rollin
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Bit of an anti-climax, especially after last year's race. I was kind of hoping Pop Rock would be declared winner.
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Both horses had great form coming 2nd and 3rd in the Caulfield Cup.
As has been said many times, the Japanese will be all over the Melbourne Cup now.
As for a protest, Oliver's horse moved in atleast 2 horse widths before leveling with Delta Blues so he really had no leg to stand on in terms of a protest.
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LOL Moi.
At least got a placing with Maybe Better but the Japanese horses smashed them.
As has been said many times, the Japanese will be all over the Melbourne Cup now.
Johnny Letts has got a year to learn Japanese :lol
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Don't really bet on horses anymore but had $10 on Delta. Was $18 on Centrebet.
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Melbourne Cup Field
1 TAWQEET (USA) 57.0 David Hayes D Dunn
2 BLUE MONDAY (GB) 56.0 David Hayes N Rawiller
3 BLUTIGEROO 55.5 Colin Little L Nolen
4 GALLIC (NZ) 55.5 Graeme Rogerson S Arnold
5 RAILINGS 55.5 Roger James G Childs
6 EFFICIENT (NZ) 54.5 Graeme Rogerson M Rodd
7 MAYBE BETTER 54.0 Brian Mayfield-Smith C Brown
8 TUNGSTEN STRIKE (USA) 54.0 Amanda Perrett D Holland
9 ZIPPING 54.0 Graeme Rogerson D Nickolic
10 BLACK TOM 53.5 David Hayes P Hall
11 MASTER O'REILLY (NZ) 53.5 Danny O'Brien V Duric
12 PURPLE MOON (IRE) 53.5 Luca Cumani D Oliver
13 LAZER SHARP 52.5 David Hayes S Shinn
14 ON A JEUNE 52.5 Andrew J Payne K McEvoy
15 SCENIC SHOT 52.5 Daniel Morton M Zara
16 SARRERA 52.0 Michael Moroney S Murphy
17 SCULPTOR (NZ) 52.0 Peter Mckenzie Ms L Cropp
18 DOLPHIN JO 51.5 T& K O'Sullivan Ms C Lindop
19 DOURO VALLEY 51.5 Danny O'Brien J Winks
20 SIRMIONE 51.5 Bart Cummings P Mertens
21 THE FUZZ (NZ) 51.5 David Hayes C Williams
22 ESKIMO QUEEN (NZ) 51.0 Michael Moroney C Hewitt
23 PRINCESS COUP 51.0 Mark Walker N Harris
24 MAHLER (GB) 50.5 Aidan O'Brien S Baster
Odds (Centrebet)
No. Runner Win Place
1 Tawqeet 71.00 18.00
2 Blue Monday 31.00 8.50
3 Blutigeroo 31.00 8.50
4 Gallic 18.00 5.00
5 Railings 301.00 51.00
6 Efficient 17.00 5.00
7 Maybe Better 18.00 5.00
8 Tungsten Strike 31.00 8.50
9 Zipping 8.00 2.70
10 Black Tom 201.00 51.00
11 Master O`Reilly 5.50 2.10
12 Purple Moon 9.50 3.10
13 Lazer Sharp 41.00 11.00
14 On A Jeune 21.00 6.00
15 Scenic Shot 61.00 16.00
16 Sarrera 81.00 21.00
17 Sculptor 31.00 8.50
18 Dolphin Jo 51.00 13.00
19 Douro Valley 19.00 5.50
20 Sirmione 13.00 4.00
21 The Fuzz 26.00 7.00
22 Eskimo Queen 26.00 7.00
23 Princess Coup 13.00 4.00
24 Mahler 8.50 2.80
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I'll take Princess Coup.
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Mahler for me
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Master O'Reilly for me
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can any of em run in the wet?
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Sirmione. Thanks :)
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Ill take On A Jeune
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Tungsten Strike for me.
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Maybe better
Dolphin Jo for smoky
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can any of em run in the wet?
Lazer Sharp
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Latest odds (tab sportsbet)
MASTER OREILLY 4.80 1.95
PURPLE MOON 7.00 2.50
ZIPPING 8.00 2.75
MAHLER 12.00 3.75
MAYBE BETTER 14.00 4.25
SIRMIONE 14.00 4.25
PRINCESS COUP 14.00 4.25
EFFICIENT 21.00 6.00
GALLIC 21.00 6.00
BLUE MONDAY 31.00 8.50
ESKIMO QUEEN 31.00 8.50
ON A JEUNE 35.00 9.50
SCULPTOR 35.00 9.50
TUNGSTEN STRIKE 41.00 11.00
THE FUZZ 41.00 11.00
BLUTIGEROO 41.00 11.00
DOURO VALLEY 41.00 11.00
TAWQEET 51.00 13.50
LAZER SHARP 61.00 16.00
DOLPHIN JO 61.00 16.00
SCENIC SHOT 101.00 26.00
SARRERA 101.00 26.00
BLACK TOM 201.00 51.00
RAILINGS 201.00 51.00
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Since my first two are gone (Sirmione and Princess coup) I'll take zipping thanks. :thumbsup
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That poor horse :'(
Ruined my day :(
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Result:
6. Efficient
12. Purple Moon
24. Mahler
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Had Efficient and Purple Moon for a place
And had Mahler for a win - I'm not complaining :-)
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Had Efficient and Purple Moon for a place
And had Mahler for a win - I'm not complaining :-)
Your shout Moi lol.
I was only a year early with Efficient :wallywink.
ps. Poor Bay Story :(
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Final places:
1. Efficient
2. Purple Moon
3. Mahler
4. Zipping
5. Dolphin Jo
6. On A Jeune
7. Blue Monday
8. Master O'Reilly
9. Sculptor
10. Lazer Sharp
11. Douro Valley
12. Sirmione
13. Princess Coup
14. Tawqeet
15. Eskimo Queen
16. Scenic Shot
17. Black Tom
18. Sarrera
19. Bluetigeroo
20. Railings
21. Tungsten Strike
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That poor horse :'(
Ruined my day :(
I was at the winning post and the chick I was with started freaking -Really horrible to see things like that.
I looked away - shame how they can't do anything about things like that
Anyway my pick got scratched and guess what ?
That's right I changed my tip to efficient - u little peea
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Has my horse finished yet?
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Melbourne Cup Field
TAB horse trainer jockey weight barrier
1 Septimus(IRE) Aidan O'Brien J Murtagh 58.5 10
2 Master O'Reilly(NZ) Danny O'Brien V Duric 55 6
3 Honolulu(IRE) Aidan O'Brien Colm O'Donoghue 54.5 24
4 C'est La Guerre(NZ) John Sadler B Prebble 54 5
5 Nom du Jeu(NZ) Murray Baker J Lloyd 54 1
6 Yellowstone(IRE) Jane Chapple-Hyam J Egan 54 12
7 Zipping John Sadler D Nikolic 54 16
8 Mad Rush(USA) Luca Cumani D Oliver 53.5 4
9 Ice Chariot Ron Maund M Rodd 53 22
10 Viewed Bart Cummings B Shinn 53 9
11 Littorio Nigel Blackiston Steven King 52.5 17
12 Bauer(IRE) Luca Cumani C Brown 52 13
13 Boundless(NZ) Stephen Mckee G Childs 52 20
14 Gallopin(NZ) Danny O'Brien J M Winks 52 21
15 Guyno(NZ) Lou Luciani C Newitt 52 8
16 Zarita(NZ) Pat Hyland D Dunn 52 7
17 Newport Paul Perry C D Symons 51.5 15
18 Profound Beauty(IRE) Dermot K Weld G Boss 51.5 2
19 Red Lord Anthony Cummings N Hall 51.5 14
20 Varevees(GB) Richard Gibson C Williams 51.5 23
21 Prize Lady(NZ) Graeme Sanders M C Sweeney 51 18
22 Alessandro Volta(GB) Aidan O'Brien W M Lordan 50.5 11
23 Barbaricus Danny O'Brien S Baster 50.5 3
24 Moatize Bart Cummings C Lindop 50 19
Odds (TAB Sportsbet)
SEPTIMUS 4.50 1.87
MAD RUSH 5.00 2.00
NOM DU JEU 9.00 3.00
PROFOUND BEAUTY 9.00 3.00
ZIPPING 18.00 5.25
CEST LA GUERRE 18.00 5.25
MASTER OREILLY 21.00 6.00
BAUER 21.00 6.00
BARBARICUS 21.00 6.00
HONOLULU 26.00 7.25
VIEWED 31.00 8.50
LITTORIO 31.00 8.50
MOATIZE 41.00 11.00
GALLOPIN 41.00 11.00
ALESSANDRO VOLTA 51.00 13.50
NEWPORT 71.00 18.50
ICE CHARIOT 81.00 21.00
VAREVEES 101.00 26.00
BOUNDLESS 101.00 26.00
PRIZE LADY 151.00 38.50
GUYNO 151.00 38.50
RED LORD 151.00 38.50
ZARITA - scratched -
YELLOWSTONE - scratched -
Link. (http://www.tab.com.au/Racing/Betting/FixedOdds/PlaceFixedOddsBet.aspx?State=1&MeetingCode=0&RacingCode=8&FromDate=2008-11-04T00%3a00%3a00&RaceNumber=FRFMELBW3&FORacingCode=R)
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I'll take Mad Rush
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Zarita has been scratched.
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Zipping
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Had Zarita in my multis - all 3 picks in race 9 scratched, hopefully a sign of luck.
Just gunna go e/w on Barbaricus :thumbsup
Keep your eyes open for sensational toy race 4 I think :whistle
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My Picks
All e/way
Race 2 Rendzina
Race 3 Courtney
Race 4 Sensational Toy
Race 5 Forays
Race 6 Dubmai / Miss Okaylah
Race 7 Barbaricus / Zipping
Race 8 The Fuzz / Magnetic
Race 9 All 3 of my picks got scratched NFI Snort
Race 10 Daintree Duke / ZYXYZXYXXXZYY yeah that one
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Yellowstone has been scratched also according to SEN tonight
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I picked number 17 weeks ago and I had no idea what horse would end up with it. But as soon as I found out that it was in the Richmond colours I knew I had to have a bet on it.
I only had a small bet $5.00 each way.
I should have saved my money as its still running but not as bad as some.
Well at least I can have a whinge about it as I had a bet on it. But I know I will only go in sweeps from now on. :gotigers
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Placings were 10, 12 and 4
An even dozen for Bart Cummings I believe
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Result:
10. Viewed $46.50 $14.00
12. Bauer $ 6.50
4. C'est La Guerre $ 7.80
2. Master O'Reilly
Trifecta $22,324
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Geez most of the big races this spring have been won by outsiders. The jockeys on the Irish horses are in deep do-do too for treating the first mile like a sprint. No wonder all 3 horses came last.
An even dozen for Bart Cummings I believe
And 50 years to the day after his first one too :clapping.
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Just for fun ......
No Horse (Barrier) Jockey Wg Trainer
1 VIEWED(9) Brad Rawiller 58.0 Bart Cummings
2 C'EST LA GUERRE(7) Nicholas Hall 55.5 John Sadler
3 FIUMICINO(24) Steven King 55.5 Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes
4 MASTER O'REILLY(16) Vlad Duric 55.0 Danny O'Brien
5 MOURILYAN(14) Glyn Schofield 54.5 Herman Brown
6 ROMAN EMPEROR(15) Hugh Bowman 54.0 Bart Cummings
7 ISTA KAREEM(23) Luke Nolen 53.5 Colin Little
8 CRIME SCENE(11) Kerrin McEvoy 53.0 Saeed Bin Suroor
9 MUNSEF(5) Zac Purton 53.0 Ian Williams
10 ZAVITE(3) Mark Zahra 53.0 Anthony Cummings
11 ALCOPOP(12) Dom Tourneur 52.5 Jake Stephens
12 HARRIS TWEED(20) Craig Newitt 52.5 Murray & Bjorn Baker
13 KIBBUTZ(8 ) Chris Symons 52.5 Jarrod McLean
14 NEWPORT(18 ) Peter Wells 52.5 Paul Perry
15 WARRINGAH(17) Damien Oliver 52.5 Chris Waller
16 GALLIONS REACH(6) Dwayne Dunn 52.0 Richard Yuill
17 SPIN AROUND(4) Mark Du Plessis 52.0 Steven Cooper
18 BASALTICO(10) Danny Nikolic 51.5 Luca Cumani
19 CAPECOVER(19) Noel Harris 51.5 Alexander R Fieldes
20 DAFFODIL(21) Chris Munce 51.5 Kevin Gray
21 SHOCKING(22) Corey Brown 51.0 Mark Kavanagh
22 ALLEZ WONDER(13) Michelle Payne 50.5 Bart Cummings
23 CHANGINGOFTHEGUARD(1) Glen Boss 50.5 David Hayes
24 LEICA DING(2) Craig Williams 50.5 Darren Weir
Betting odds (Luxbet)
https://www.luxbet.com/index.php?cPath=824&event_id=115540&rd=1257245761&#go_
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Roman Emperor for mine.
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Newport
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Daffodil (http://cache.hyves-static.net/images/smilies/default/smiley_flower.gif)
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Shocking Please
Hoping for a quinella 1, 6 & 21 :pray I've boxed it of course ;D
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I hope you put some money on it tiga :thumbsup
21. Shocking 9.90 3.60
8. Crime Scene 10.80
5. Mourilyan 8.20
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This Sporting Life
Geoff McClure and Samantha Lane
November 4, 2009
For the record, other AFL heads spotted in the Birdcage yesterday included Shane O'Bree, Chris Newman and Paul Medhurst. Oh, and Brad Miller of course.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/horse-racing/all-shook-up-on-shockings-big-day/2009/11/03/1257010200451.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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Well, I had a bob or two! ;D
My quinella failed though :(
What did I win here Mr one??
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Anyone not on So You Think?
Race 7 - EMIRATES MELBOURNE CUP - 3200m - 3.00p.m. (GROUP 1).
No. Form Horse Barrier Trainer Jockey Weight TAB Tote
Win Place
1 715246 SHOCKING dwt 24 Mark Kavanagh Michael Rodd 57 10.10 3.10
2 943113 CAMPANOLOGIST (USA) w 19 Saeed Bin Suroor K McEvoy 56 59.70 17.80
3 -11111 SO YOU THINK (NZ) wt 3 Bart Cummings Steven Arnold 56 3.10 2.90
4 71-512 ZIPPING t 16 Robert Hickmott Nicholas Hall 55.5 20.00 4.80
5 14215- ILLUSTRIOUS BLUE (GB) d 9 William J Knight Glen Boss 55 40.90 8.40
6 2891-6 MR MEDICI (IRE) w 5 Peter Ho D Beadman 55 44.40 11.10
7 133344 SHOOT OUT w 17 John Wallace C Brown 55 27.60 7.60
8 -51111 AMERICAIN (USA) w 12 Alain de Royer Dupre G M Mosse 54.5 11.80 3.10
9 1519-0 TOKAI TRICK (JPN) 4 Kenji Nonaka S Fujita 54.5 65.90 15.40
10 9-0070 BUCCELLATI (GB) w 21 Tony Noonan Steven King 54 132.80 27.70
11 061012 DESCARADO (NZ) w 1 Gai Waterhouse Nash Rawiller 54 10.50 3.20
12 3-9812 HARRIS TWEED (NZ) wt 13 Murray & Bjorn Baker Brad Rawiller 54 19.60 5.10
13 -25525 MANIGHAR (FR) w 20 Luca Cumani Damien Oliver 54 21.00 6.60
14 8-0858 MASTER O'REILLY (NZ) wt 18 Danny O'Brien Vlad Duric 54 72.20 15.40
15 3-6703 MONACO CONSUL (NZ) wt 14 Michael Moroney Craig Williams 54 29.60 7.20
16 -12112 PROFOUND BEAUTY (IRE) 22 Dermot K Weld P J S Smullen 54 29.70 8.10
17 -56407 ZAVITE (NZ) dt 7 Anthony Cummings Michael Walker 54 89.10 18.00
18 -12-54 BAUER (IRE) 2 Luca Cumani Chris Munce 53.5 52.70 13.60
19 1-1521 HOLBERG (UAE) d 10 Saeed Bin Suroor L Dettori 53.5 35.80 10.70
20 -24131 PRECEDENCE (NZ) t 15 Bart Cummings Blake Shinn 53.5 29.90 7.40
21 906406 RED RULER (NZ) w 8 John Sargent M R Du Plessis 53.5 114.50 23.10
22 3-3312b LINTON 23 Robert Hickmott B Prebble 52 36.30 9.00
23 -28083 ONCE WERE WILD 11 Gai Waterhouse J Cassidy 51.5 45.80 10.70
24 -13111 MALUCKYDAY (NZ) t 6 M, W & J. Hawkes Luke Nolen 51 13.50 4.10
http://www.racenet.com.au/form/race-fields-now-nr.asp?trackcode=flem&textdate=021110
http://www.tab.com.au/Racing/Betting/StandardBets/PlaceStandardBet.aspx?State=1&MeetingCode=M&RacingCode=R&FromDate=2010-11-02T00:00:00&BetType=Win&RaceNumber=07
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A mate carries on like a 2 bob watch trying to find something to beat SYT.
Wasn't falling for it Cox plate day and good luck to anyone trying to find that needle cup day.
Smokey! JB's other runner "Gotta watch the sneaky old fart"
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By going by form and everything So You Think is the clear favourite but you still got AMERICAIN and SHOCKING and couple others that could very well win.
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having $$$$ on So You Think.
Like Royal Commands in Race 2.
Stirling Grove in race 5
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If this was a sweep or I was going for a place just to be different I'd take the lightest weight Maluckyday.
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So You Think probly will take it out but Im betting against him. I put a dollar on 6 others to win the race.
profound beauty $34.00
maluckyday $8.00
americain $14.00
precedence $23.00
descarado $13.00
Shocking $11.00
Hopefully going betting in numbers against the favourite pays off.
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Some of the RFC boys have a runner in race 5 - I missed the name of the horse
Did anyone hear?
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Some of the RFC boys have a runner in race 5 - I missed the name of the horse
Did anyone hear?
FNM it's called Johnnydrama :thumbsup
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=12101.0
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Some of the RFC boys have a runner in race 5 - I missed the name of the horse
Did anyone hear?
FNM it's called Johnnydrama :thumbsup
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=12101.0
Ta. I was gonna have a bet on it but missed - glad I did lol
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Ta. I was gonna have a bet on it but missed - glad I did lol
;D. A johnnydud lol
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got the win on my betting and in the local shops sweep I went in. :)
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Result:
8. Americain $10.90 $3.20
24. Maluckyday $3.30
3. So You Think $2.00
4. Zipping
12. Harris Tweed
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A last minute bet and picked the winner :thumbsup
But I had a bet on half the field lol
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Congrats FNM lol and tiger101 :thumbsup
Picked the runners-up myself so at least came out in front.
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Who is everyone backing on Cup day?
No. Barrier Horse Name Trainer Likely Jockey Weight (kg)
1 16 Dunaden (FR) Mikel Delzangles Craig Williams 59
2 12 Americain (USA) Alain de Royer Dupre Damien Oliver 58
3 19 Jakkalberry (IRE) Marco Botti Colm O’Donoghue 55.5
4 18 Red Cadeaux (GB) Ed Dunlop Michael Rodd 55.5
5 22 Winchester (USA) John Sadler Jamie Mott 55.5
6 13 Voila Ice (IRE) Peter Moody Vlad Duric 55.5
7 6 Cavalryman (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor Frankie Dettori 54
8 8 Mount Athos (IRE) Luca Cumani Ryan Moore 54
9 4 Sanagas (GER) Bart Cummings Brad Rawiller 54
10 14 Ethiopia Pat Carey Rhys McLeod 53.5
11 2 Fiorente (IRE) Gai Waterhouse James McDonald 53.5
12 11 Galileo’s Choice (IRE) Dermot Weld Pat Smullen 53.5
13 7 Glencadam Gold (IRE) Gai Waterhouse Tommy Berry 53.5
14 5 Green Moon (IRE) Robert Hickmott Brett Prebble 53.5
15 9 Maluckyday (NZ) Team Hawkes Jim Cassidy 53.5
16 3 Mourayan (IRE) Robert Hickmott Hugh Bowman 53.5
17 1 My Quest For Peace (IRE) Luca Cumani Corey Brown 53.5
18 15 Niwot Team Hawkes Dwayne Dunn 53.5
19 21 Tac De Boistron (FR) Michael Kent Olivier Doleuze 53
20 17 Lights Of Heaven (NZ) Peter Moody Luke Nolen 53
21 20 Precedence (NZ) Bart Cummings Steven Arnold 53
22 23 Unusual Suspect (USA) Michael Kent Glyn Schofield 53
23 24 Zabeelionaire (NZ) Leon Corstens Craig Newitt 52
24 10 Kelinni (IRE) Chris Waller Glen Boss 51
Dunaden, Americain and Mount Athos are the top 3 favourites with the bookies.
http://www.puntersparadise.com.au/melbourne-cup/melbourne-cup-odds/
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Lights of Heaven as a long shot. Plus did a few combos.
Dookie's tips for each race (last year got 4/10 and cleaned up):-
R1 Endless Summer $7.50
R2 Tai Tai Tess $11
R3 I'm Jake $17
R4 Mid Summer Music $3.80
R5 Genteel $4.00
R6 Beneden $6.50
R7 Lights of Heaven $23
R8 Tribal Rock $5.50
R9 Sea Lord $11
R10 Aeronautical $5.50
Sweet Sweet Geez may the luck be with me (and you) :pray
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Have no idea
But here's my 1-2-3
1 - Glencadam Gold ;D
2 - Red Cadeaux
3 - Dunaden
Told ya I was clueless regarding the horses :thumbsup :lol :rollin
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Bless all the horses for giving me a day off work
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Lights of Heaven as a long shot. Plus did a few combos.
Dookie's tips for each race (last year got 4/10 and cleaned up):-
R1 Endless Summer $7.50
R2 Tai Tai Tess $11
R3 I'm Jake $17
R4 Mid Summer Music $3.80
R5 Genteel $4.00
R6 Beneden $6.50
R7 Lights of Heaven $23
R8 Tribal Rock $5.50
R9 Sea Lord $11
R10 Aeronautical $5.50
Sweet Sweet Geez may the luck be with me (and you) :pray
Some value there dooks :o
My tip for the cup is Sanagas.....Get on it ;)
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Despite the weight will go with Dunaden and usually also put some on the lightweight in the Cup so that's Kelinni especially with Boss riding.
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lights of heaven and a tipple at zabeelionaire
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8. Mount Athos
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All the favourites got caught back in the field. The bookies will be happy.
(1st) 14. Green Moon
(2nd) 11. Fiorente
(3rd) 3. Jakkalberry
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Lights of Heaven as a long shot. Plus did a few combos.
Dookie's tips for each race (last year got 4/10 and cleaned up):-
R1 Endless Summer $7.50
R2 Tai Tai Tess $11
R3 I'm Jake $17
R4 Mid Summer Music $3.80
R5 Genteel $4.00
R6 Beneden $6.50
R7 Lights of Heaven $23
R8 Tribal Rock $5.50
R9 Sea Lord $11
R10 Aeronautical $5.50
Sweet Sweet Geez may the luck be with me (and you) :pray
I had a couple of trifectas and a massive $4 on lights of heaven on your recommendation.
Oh well.
There's always next year.... And the quick pick tonight. :rollin
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Bang!! Go the mystery trifecta!!! Might make a decent contribution to the FTF this year....Yeeeeeooooooooowwww!!!!
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Bang!! Go the mystery trifecta!!! Might make a decent contribution to the FTF this year....Yeeeeeooooooooowwww!!!!
Your kidding you nailed it? Nice!
I had about 40 $1 trifectas and best is 1st and 3rd.
Had a feeling it was gonna be like this with
all other races winning through outsiders
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Ended up breaking even (just). :-[
Oh well there's always next year
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(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/mollusc/GetAttachment-1.jpg)
Woot Woot :birthday :birthday
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(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/mollusc/GetAttachment-1.jpg)
Woot Woot :birthday :birthday
mate that is fantastic, nice work
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(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/mollusc/GetAttachment-1.jpg)
Woot Woot :birthday :birthday
Nice one TFT :clapping
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Who is everyone backing in the Cup today?
(http://images.theage.com.au/2013/11/02/4890741/2013-melbourne-cup-sweep_72.jpg)
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/2013-melbourne-cup-sweep
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I have Brown Panther in the one of the sweeps at work
Been told that it's a chance :-\
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I've got two in our sweep ;D.
Simenon and Verema.
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Finishing order:
1. Fiorente
2. Red Cadeaux
3. Mount Athos
4. Simenon
5. Dandino
6. Fawkner
7. Ethiopia
8. Brown Panther
9. Super Cool
10. Voleuse De Coeurs
11. Dunaden
12. Seville
13. Sea Moon
14. Royal Empire
15. Mourayan
16. Ibicenco
17. Foreteller
18. Masked Marvel
19. Dear Demi
20. Hawkspur
21. Green Moon
22. Tres Blue
23. Ruscello
Verema had to be put down after breaking a cannon bone in its right fore leg during the race :(.
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1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th in my box trifecta. :'( :'(
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I gave up gambling back in 1970 something when I picked two dogs in each leg of the quadie at Sandown Park (cost $8:00) and it paisd $8:80.
A mugs ganme.
:cheers
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1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th in my box trifecta. :'( :'(
That's rough smoke. That's been my story of the spring.
I had a straight up trifecta
Fiorente, first.
Second I had Seville.
Third I had 2 chances Mount Athos and Red Cadeaux. Bloody Seville.
I was peeed but won on head to head on Fiorente so a good day and mrs gets a new dress.
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I gave up gambling back in 1970 something when I picked two dogs in each leg of the quadie at Sandown Park (cost $8:00) and it paisd $8:80.
A mugs ganme.
:cheers
hello… Yeah add add
Controlled gambling is a good thing 65.
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Who are you tipping in the Cup today?
1. ADMIRE RAKTI (JPN) s 8 Tomoyuki Umeda Zac Purton 58.5
2. CAVALRYMAN (GB) d 3 Saeed Bin Suroor Craig Williams 57
3. FAWKNER tshb Blks 9 Robert Hickmott Nicholas Hall 57
4. RED CADEAUX (GB) s 15 Ed Dunlop G Mosse 57
5. PROTECTIONIST (GER) s 11 Andreas Wohler Ryan Moore 56.5
7. SEISMOS (IRE) sh 1 M Botti Craig Newitt 56
8. JUNOOB (GB) sh Blks 7 Chris Waller Hugh Bowman 55.5
9. ROYAL DIAMOND (IRE) ds 6 Johnny Murtagh Steven Arnold 55.5
10. GATEWOOD (GB) shb 22 J H Gosden William Buick 55
11. MUTUAL REGARD (IRE) d (G) 12 Johnny Murtagh Damien Oliver 55
12. WHO SHOT THEBARMAN (NZ) tdsh 13 Chris Waller Glen Boss 55
13. WILLING FOE (USA) 17 Saeed Bin Suroor James McDonald 55
14. MY AMBIVALENT (IRE) b Late: Ambivalent 4 Roger Varian Andrea Atzeni 54.5
15. PRECEDENCE (NZ) t 20 Bart and James Cummings Michael Rodd 54.5
16. BRAMBLES (NZ) t 21 Peter G Moody Luke Nolen 54
17. MR O'CEIRIN (NZ) tsh Blks 19 Ciaron Maher Chad Schofield 54
18. AU REVOIR (IRE) s Blks-OFF 23 A Fabre Glyn Schofield 53.5
19. LIDARI (FR) ts 10 Peter G Moody Ben Melham 53.5
20. OPINION (IRE) sb 14 Chris Waller Tye Angland 53.5
21. ARALDO (GB) t 24 Michael Moroney Dwayne Dunn 53
22. LUCIA VALENTINA (NZ) thb 2 Kris Lees Kerrin McEvoy 53
23. UNCHAIN MY HEART td Blks-OFF 5 David Hayes And Tom Dabernig Dean Yendall 51.5
24. SIGNOFF (IRE) t Blks 16 Darren Weir Joao Moreira 51 +1.00
http://www.racenet.com.au/melbourne-cup/field-formguide.aspx
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I've gone for a mix of slightly longer shots than usual, but horses that are capable of winning and not just making up the numbers. Plus a couple of favourites to cover the outlay.
Race 1:- 3 Miss Idyllic. $14
Race 2:- 7 Khutulun $10
Race 3:- 9 Clear Direction $21
Race 4:- 2 The Quarterback $3
Race 5:- 8 Reigning Meteor $14
Race 6:- 2 Wine Tales $3
Race 7:- 2 Cavalry Man $21
Race 8:- 4 Jacquinot Bay $26
Race 9:- 14 Decircles $18
Race 10:- 13 Flash of Doubt $41
Fingers crossed for this year :)
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Couldn't care less
First time in my life I'm working Cup Day. Stuck in the office until about 4.
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5. Protectionist
4. Red Cadeaux
12. Who shot thebarman.
Tragically, the favourite and Caulfield Cup winner Admire Rakti collapsed after the race and died :(.
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I've gone for a mix of slightly longer shots than usual, but horses that are capable of winning and not just making up the numbers. Plus a couple of favourites to cover the outlay.
Race 1:- 3 Miss Idyllic. $14
Race 2:- 7 Khutulun $10
Race 3:- 9 Clear Direction $21
Race 4:- 2 The Quarterback $3
Race 5:- 8 Reigning Meteor $14
Race 6:- 2 Wine Tales $3
Race 7:- 2 Cavalry Man $21
Race 8:- 4 Jacquinot Bay $26
Race 9:- 14 Decircles $18
Race 10:- 13 Flash of Doubt $41
Fingers crossed for this year :)
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--qOw8koA5--/japbcvpavbzau9dbuaxf.jpg)
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Araldo is also fighting for his life.
Araldo was returning to scale after the race when he shied after a child waved a flag at him and shattered a cannon bone in the process.
The vets are trying their best to save him.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/melbourne-cup-2014-lastplaced-admire-rakti-dies-20141104-11gpjk.html#ixzz3I4Zs88hw
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People can be into what ever they're into and I don't ever want to be that guy that preaches their beliefs onto everyone else but when something like this happens I can't help it. Horses are beautiful and majestic creatures and exploiting them is disgusting enough on its own, but when they die after being pushed to their limits like this for money then enough is enough. Breaks my heart to hear about this. Racing them is one thing and I don't agree with it but each to their own, but a horse can't tell you to bugger off when it has had enough. Instead they are whipped and pushed to carry on.
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First World problem
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Araldo is also fighting for his life.
Araldo was returning to scale after the race when he shied after a child waved a flag at him and shattered a cannon bone in the process.
The vets are trying their best to save him.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/melbourne-cup-2014-lastplaced-admire-rakti-dies-20141104-11gpjk.html#ixzz3I4Zs88hw
Sadly, Araldo's injuries were too severe to save him and he has been put down :(.
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RSPCA statement:
Tragedy at Melbourne Cup
Tuesday, 4th November 2014
We understand that in today’s Melbourne Cup, the favourite, Admire Rakti, collapsed and died and that Araldo was also seriously injured soon after the race.
This is a tragic outcome for both horses and we expect there to be a full and transparent investigation undertaken into both incidents.
Events like these are a stark reminder to the community of the real risks to horses associated with racing.
Sadly, injury and death are the price some horses pay for our entertainment in a sport that puts intense pressure on animals to perform to the limits of their endurance.
http://www.rspca.org.au/media-centre/news/2014/tragedy-melbourne-cup
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People can be into what ever they're into and I don't ever want to be that guy that preaches their beliefs onto everyone else but when something like this happens I can't help it. Horses are beautiful and majestic creatures and exploiting them is disgusting enough on its own, but when they die after being pushed to their limits like this for money then enough is enough. Breaks my heart to hear about this. Racing them is one thing and I don't agree with it but each to their own, but a horse can't tell you to bugger off when it has had enough. Instead they are whipped and pushed to carry on.
:clapping
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I wish we could whip and tell Chaplin and grigg to carry on when they are saying "bugger off , I'm spent "
Horse > list blocking bastards
:banghead
People can be into what ever they're into and I don't ever want to be that guy that preaches their beliefs onto everyone else but when something like this happens I can't help it. Horses are beautiful and majestic creatures and exploiting them is disgusting enough on its own, but when they die after being pushed to their limits like this for money then enough is enough. Breaks my heart to hear about this. Racing them is one thing and I don't agree with it but each to their own, but a horse can't tell you to bugger off when it has had enough. Instead they are whipped and pushed to carry on.
The pro jumps racing argument appears to be
'The horses are specific breed for this, hence, if they were not jump racing, the would not exist. And this is more cruel than them breaking leg and dying at three years old'
Or something
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The question I would like answered, although it most likely never will be, is how much the extra-weight Admire Rakti was carrying in the Cup (as a result of him winning the Caulfield Cup) played in his death? It would certainly had added more stress on his body over the longer distance of the two miles.
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People can be into what ever they're into and I don't ever want to be that guy that preaches their beliefs onto everyone else but when something like this happens I can't help it. Horses are beautiful and majestic creatures and exploiting them is disgusting enough on its own, but when they die after being pushed to their limits like this for money then enough is enough. Breaks my heart to hear about this. Racing them is one thing and I don't agree with it but each to their own, but a horse can't tell you to bugger off when it has had enough. Instead they are whipped and pushed to carry on.
Please.
Wait for the bloody autopsy at least. There is a chance it would have died race or not.
As for whipped and pushed to carry on. GET FAIR DINKUM. As soon as it was obvious the horse was in trouble Purton eased it out.
0.007% of horses die in this manner.
More people die playing footy. We should stop that as well I guess.
More horses die in equestrian each year than in horse racing (FACT), better stop that as well.
More people die playing lawn bowls each year than horses do racing, better stop bowls.
Sorry, but the world's gone mad.
And as for exploiting the horses. They are bred thoroughbreds, it's what they are bred to do and they love it. Anyone that thinks the horses don't like racing are kidding themselves.
Might I add, I actually cried when they said Admire Rakti was dead. It's tragic.
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Circle of life....if it wasn't for horse racing, millions of dogs would starve....
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The question I would like answered, although it most likely never will be, is how much the extra-weight Admire Rakti was carrying in the Cup (as a result of him winning the Caulfield Cup) played in his death? It would certainly had added more stress on his body over the longer distance of the two miles.
Perhaps - another factor is prior to winning the caulfield cup it hadn't raced for 207days? It then ran 2 big races in 2 weeks. Did running 3200m carrying 58.5kg two weeks after the Caulfield cup distress it to that point? Very sad for the horse
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And as for exploiting the horses. They are bred thoroughbreds, it's what they are bred to do and they love it. Anyone that thinks the horses don't like racing are kidding themselves.
Sorry, didn't realise you were a horse whisperer and one told you this.
As for whipped and pushed to carry on. GET FAIR DINKUM. As soon as it was obvious the horse was in trouble Purton eased it out.
lmao. We'll that's OK then, just flog the thing unless it looks like it might be having a heart attack or something.
Like I said though, each to their own. But to listen to these dckheads get on the radio and the news to say everything was done in the interest of the horses are the ones kidding themselves. They don't care for the horses, only their pockets. Empathy has no place in a 'sport' where the animals are pushed to their limits only to be sent to the knackery once they're no longer useful. If this is what people are into then fine, just don't pretend to care.
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Circle of life....if it wasn't for horse racing, millions of dogs would starve....
And millions of kids would go without eating clag
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Sorry, didn't realise you were a horse whisperer and one told you this.
lmao. We'll that's OK then, just flog the thing unless it looks like it might be having a heart attack or something.
Firstly - I breed and race greyhounds and have driven pacers. I have some idea on whether the animals enjoy it or not. More than you anyhow. I put up with ignorant morons telling me how cruel a sport greyhound racing is and how unfair it is on the dogs. I've got a retired 6yo on the couch next to me who would love nothing more than to go to the track right now. Admire Rakti was prancing on his toes before the race and seemed fairly happy. And might I add, he ran like a VERY VERY happy horse in the Caulfield Cup.
I'M SORRY, BUT THIS HORSE WHISPERER UNDERSTANDS THAT HORSES/DOGS DON'T PERFORM TO THAT STANDARD IF THEY ARE UNHAPPY OR DON'T ENJOY RACING. ANYONE THAT THINKS THAT HORSE DOESN'T LOVE BEING OUT THERE IS WRONG.
Secondly - Absolute crap. The horse wasn't "flogged". He dropped out quickly and was eased out of the race.
Thirdly - Don't let one of your other anti's hear you call the horse in question "the thing". That's a big no no.
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I will believe you the day I see a horse in the wild with a midget on its back in a stupid outfit flogging it. Like I said, if that's what you're into then fine, just don't pretend to be an animal person. We animal persons don't favour any sort of exploitation of them what so ever. Not making any sort of character judgment on you but I think what you do is absolutely disgusting and barbaric. At least these horses are better off dead than just being pushed and tortured as a pay cheque for their owners. May as well just legalise dog fighting too because that is what terriers were bred to do.
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Not making any sort of character judgment on you but I think what you do is absolutely disgusting and barbaric.
I'm so lucky you didn't go ahead and make a character judgment LOL.
Ignorance is bliss.
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I could have resorted to name calling but I don't know you, but I just don't like or find what you do as acceptable. Nothing to do with ignorance, I don't agree with any sort of exploitation of animals. Put it this way, I don't even eat them.
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I will believe you the day I see a horse in the wild with a midget on its back in a stupid outfit flogging it. Like I said, if that's what you're into then fine, just don't pretend to be an animal person. We animal persons don't favour any sort of exploitation of them what so ever (with the exception of the Romans throwing christians to lions as entertainment). Not making any sort of character judgment on you but I think what you do is absolutely disgusting and barbaric. At least these horses are better off dead than just being pushed and tortured as a pay cheque for their owners. May as well just legalise dog fighting too because that is what terriers were bred to do.
Horses have been in the top 3 most reliable modes of transport in the history of the human race so it's not hard to see why people enjoy horse racing as a sport. Times have moved on though with transport and Australian racing needs to move on as well. Put the whips away and let them run on their merits. The rules need to change about easing mounts too. How many times have jockeys been fined or suspended for easing off on a favorite when they thought something might have been amiss-or was someone in their pocket?
Gambling of course needs a massive overhaul and needs to be re-regulated again. The privatisation of the TAB has been a disaster for the integrity of the sport.
While they can't speak for themselves, I think Damo has a point that some of the animals enjoy the racing just as some humans think they are born to race.
I have had arms length involvement with trainers of both dogs and trotters in a previous job. It's like any industry, there are good and bad eggs, the bigger corporate organisations are the most brutal, however most trainers that I have met are doing it for a hobby, most of them have day job and have no interest in 'flogging' or 'torturing' their animals in any sort of 'barbaric' manner because winning the Hamilton Cup for $6k isn't going to change their lives, except for bragging rights at the local pub/footy/cricket club.
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I could have resorted to name calling but I don't know you, but I just don't like or find what you do as acceptable. Nothing to do with ignorance, I don't agree with any sort of exploitation of animals. Put it this way, I don't even eat them.
Good on you. You have your beliefs and stick to it.
But you did say you weren't going to make a character judgement against me and preceded to do EXACTLY that.
How dare you say what I do is completely disgusting and barbaric.
My dogs live a better life than any pet you have, whether it be a maltese on the couch or german shepherd in the backyard. And if you dispute that, I'll PM you my address. You can come here and give me a face to face apology after seeing the way they are treated.
I've got 4 retired dogs here and 2 pups that have a 3 acre paddock, dams and huge trees. They run and swim and chill out all day. Tipping yours don't get that.
And I'll tell you that my 6yo dog would love nothing more than to go to the races tomorrow. But as a retired pet he obviously doesn't get that option now.
Disgusting and barbaric, how dare you.
Ask the owner and founder of Greyt Companions (they are on facebook) if Damo is disgusting and barbaric. They are one of the prominent re-homers of greyhounds in Victoria.
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Know someone who had a dog who was a show dog (not entirely the same thing but still used for show) and once he was forced into retirement by the owner he changed and was diagnosed with depression. Was never the same dog again. Have your beliefs about what you think is right and wrong and stick by them, but no one can pretend to know how the animal feels towards what they are doing because just like people some enjoy it and some don't.
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I could have resorted to name calling but I don't know you, but I just don't like or find what you do as acceptable. Nothing to do with ignorance, I don't agree with any sort of exploitation of animals. Put it this way, I don't even eat them.
It's pretty funny people are crying about race horses. Given the treatment of mass produced animals for eating.
The laws Changed recently - its illegal to video footage a chicken farm Lol
http://time2transcend.wordpress.com/2014/07/01/australian-legislators-aim-to-gag-animal-protection-activists/
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/bushtelegraph/the-battle-over-animal-welfare-and-ag-gag-laws/5612314
I wonder why.
Where does chicken come from mummy?
The supermarket darling.
Peter singer (for Monash now hHarvard Ithink) wrote a good book on this general topic "practical ethics". Preference utilitarianism is logically pretty hard to disagree with.
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Humans drop dead from heart attacks every day exercising FMD.
I love animals but what a freakin carry on.
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What is everyone backing today?
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My tip...
Save your money.
:lol
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Go hug a tree 65 this is about the big race pal.
My tip . Trip to Paris or Preferement. Really is a difficult race to predict but rarely do you see a complete outsider win
Red Cadeaux will be the punters favourite.
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As I am working today, have to confess i really don't care ;D
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It's been a spring carnival of favourites winning so I backed Fame Game.
As I am working today, have to confess i really don't care ;D
The race that stops the nation ;D.
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It's been a spring carnival of favourites winning
LOL so the 100/1 shot wins :lol
19. Prince of Penzance
8. Max Dynamite
2. Criterion
First female jockey (Michelle Payne) to win the Cup too.
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Hope the Big Red, that's Red Cadeaux is going to be ok
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Hope the Big Red, that's Red Cadeaux is going to be ok
Having emergency surgery (fetlock injury) at Werribee.
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As I am working today, have to confess i really don't care ;D
The race that stops the nation ;D.
Lot's of Uni students in Victoria having exams today too :lol
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Red Cadeaux is going to be ok.
Stevie Payne is a sensational story to come out of the cup.
The do gooders will crap on about the injury to Red Cadeaux and ignore a story so brilliant a movie will be made.
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Red Cadeaux is going to be ok.
Stevie Payne is a sensational story to come out of the cup.
The do gooders will crap on about the injury to Red Cadeaux and ignore a story so brilliant a movie will be made.
Reckon Michelle's story is pretty special too.
Actually the entire Payne Family story is a special one
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Good on them.
Glad no horses died this year
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Red Cadeaux is going to be ok.
Stevie Payne is a sensational story to come out of the cup.
The do gooders will crap on about the injury to Red Cadeaux and ignore a story so brilliant a movie will be made.
? dont know much about them but the family has been around a while.
lesson learnt about today. Listen to your wife. Her only bet was $5 on that horse while the rest of us picked every other horse bar it.
Good on her i say. Great article i read about that horse's owners earlier in the day also.
Fame game please.
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Good on them.
Glad no horses died this year
Apparently two did?
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http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-03/melbourne-cup-dream-comes-true-for-strapper-stevie-payne/6908936
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Good on them.
Glad no horses died this year
Apparently two did?
Which two?
Links please?
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Pathetic "sport". It's disgusting and it shouldn't be allowed
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My tip...
Save your money.
:lol
Bookies were the big winners.
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/melbourne-cup-2015-prince-of-penzance-saves-bookmakers-from-multimilliondollar-payouts-20151103-gkpeio.html
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Good on them.
Glad no horses died this year
Apparently two did?
Which two?
Links please?
I honestly don't remember, don't really care for the race. Was a random link posted on Facebook so take it with a grain of salt
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My tip...
Save your money.
:lol
Bookies were the big winners.
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/melbourne-cup-2015-prince-of-penzance-saves-bookmakers-from-multimilliondollar-payouts-20151103-gkpeio.html
Bookies wouldn't be around if they didn't generally come out winners
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Pathetic "sport". It's disgusting and it shouldn't be allowed
Oh well.
It isn't going anywhere.
So all the anti's will just have to suck it up.
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What about all the poor horses that drown during Water Polo matches?
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stuffing polo cross wankers. think the world revolves around them
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What about all the poor horses that drown during Water Polo matches?
Bad jockeys and substandard equipment
(http://www.bushtrackerforum.com/forum/userpix/5_Horse_fins_mask_snorkel_pfd1_5.jpg)
(http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s499/Damien_Oborne/horse%20snorkel_zpsjf8wi6nx.jpg)
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Looks like Sarah Jessica Parker at the beach.
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Speaking of which, what are people's thoughts of that bird who pushed the cop over on cup day? Innocent mistake and just a bit of fun I've heard.....but if it was a guy that pushed the cop over would it be different?
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Speaking of which, what are people's thoughts of that bird who pushed the cop over on cup day? Innocent mistake and just a bit of fun I've heard.....but if it was a guy that pushed the cop over would it be different?
She's been charged though
So I don't think she's been treated any differently to anyone else
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Typical woman really
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.but if it was a guy that pushed the cop over would it be different?
Of course
He would have spent the night in lockup and copped one getting slammed to the ground as he was cuffed
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Speaking of which, what are people's thoughts of that bird who pushed the cop over on cup day? Innocent mistake and just a bit of fun I've heard.....but if it was a guy that pushed the cop over would it be different?
She's been charged though
So I don't think she's been treated any differently to anyone else
please
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Speaking of which, what are people's thoughts of that bird who pushed the cop over on cup day? Innocent mistake and just a bit of fun I've heard.....but if it was a guy that pushed the cop over would it be different?
She's been charged though
So I don't think she's been treated any differently to anyone else
please
X2
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.but if it was a guy that pushed the cop over would it be different?
Of course
He would have spent the night in lockup and copped one getting slammed to the ground as he was cuffed
Yep. My thoughts when I first saw it were if it was a drunk guy that did it he would have got spear tackled into the pavement (possibly after being tasered), and everyone would have thought 'yeah, fair play'.
If only they treated guys with such respect!
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mmmhm
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Speaking of which, what are people's thoughts of that bird who pushed the cop over on cup day? Innocent mistake and just a bit of fun I've heard.....but if it was a guy that pushed the cop over would it be different?
She's been charged though
So I don't think she's been treated any differently to anyone else
please
She was arrested, got, taken away and she got charged
Exactly what would have happened to anyone else
No she wasn't slammed to the ground, there was no need to; she was too tanked and didn't offer any resistance
Please indeed
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Looks like Sarah Jessica Parker at the beach.
:lol
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Speaking of which, what are people's thoughts of that bird who pushed the cop over on cup day? Innocent mistake and just a bit of fun I've heard.....but if it was a guy that pushed the cop over would it be different?
She's been charged though
So I don't think she's been treated any differently to anyone else
please
She was arrested, got, taken away and she got charged
Exactly what would have happened to anyone else
No she wasn't slammed to the ground, there was no need to; she was too tanked and didn't offer any resistance
Please indeed
i could definately see a bloke copping the same treatment. In fact i could imagine the officer fronting the 7 news laughing about it the same way this one did.
:thumbsup
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i could definately see a bloke copping the same treatment. In fact i could imagine the officer fronting the 7 news laughing about it the same way this one did.
:thumbsup
It's a pity Ch7 didn't show all the footage.... ;D
They only showed the footage of her pushing the cop, the other 2 coppers racing up to her and grabbing her and she asking whether she was in trouble or not
Didn't show anything else unfortunately
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Since when do the cops not be rough with a man who ISN'T resisting arrest.
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Ed Dunlop has confirmed Red Cadeaux will spend his retirement at @LivingLegendsAU in Melbourne.
https://twitter.com/GBRI_UK/status/663461113875587073
:)
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Not anymore...
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/red-cadeaux-euthanised-after-succumbing-to-injuries-20151120-gl4gx8.html
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Not anymore...
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/red-cadeaux-euthanised-after-succumbing-to-injuries-20151120-gl4gx8.html
:(
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i know in hindsight it looks like a bad decision to run the horse but we are just punters so id love to hear why dunlop ran cadeux. Surely there is a bigger risk in running a horse that old on a dry day.
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Who is everybody's tip for the Melbourne Cup today?
https://www.racenet.com.au/melbourne-cup/field
I've gone for Big Duke, with Amelie's Star my lightweight 2nd choice.
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My four legged kids have the follwoing in the sweep at work
Almandin
Boom Time
Cismontane
Are they any good?
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My four legged kids have the follwoing in the sweep at work
Almandin
Boom Time
Cismontane
Are they any good?
Almandin won it last year but is carrying more weight this time around.
Boom Time won the Caulfield Cup.
Cismontane (#24) got a spot in the race after sentimental favourite Who Shot the Barman was scratched.
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Rekindling won it.
1st: 22. Rekindling
2nd: 7. Johannes Vermeer
3rd: 9. Max Dynamite
4th. Big Duke
5th. Naketta
6th. Thomas Hobson
7th. Tiberian
8th. Libran
9th. Marmelo
10th. Wicklow Brave
http://www.news.com.au/sport/superracing/melbourne-cup/melbourne-cup-2017-final-finishing-order/news-story/ad8c76c0e8119812862eed5f9d36ae47
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had 2,3 and 4th :thumbsdown
didnt even consider rekindling until a few minutes before.
ooh well.
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What is everyone's tip for the Cup tomorrow?
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https://www.racenet.com.au/melbourne-cup/horses
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Going to box up 2 3 5 7 9 11 17 in some type of order in multis
Boring Yucatan straight out
Value Who shot the Barman E/W
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The Cliffsofmoher is solid value for an EW'er.
Probably back in the favourite for the win, TBH. Don't normally like the favs unless it's the Diva though...:shh
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Sad about Cliffsofmoher :(.
I had Youngstar which came sixth.
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What is everyone's tip for the Cup?
https://www.racenet.com.au/melbourne-cup/horses
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Personally, I haven't got a clue
But 3 four legged kids have the following horse in the sweep at work ;D
Flame = 19
Nisha = 10
Rogue = 13
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I've got Constantinople.
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After the protest was upheld.
23. Vow and Declare (an Aussie horse won from outside barrier 21)
12. Prince Of Arran
20. Il Paradiso
3. Master Of Reality (finished second but demoted to 4th after the protest)
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What is everyone's tip in today's Cup?
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Ummm
I have number 7 in the sweep at work
No idea of the name but I'll say number 7 ;D
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Ummm
I have number 7 in the sweep at work
No idea of the name but I'll say number 7 ;D
Verry Elleegant
You could have done worse .. will be interesting to see how it goes at the end of 3200
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Hoping the heat helps the locals. Surprise Baby the fav.
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Winner won from the front :o.
6. Twilight Payment
21. Tiger Moth
12. Prince of Arran
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What is everyone's tip for the Cup?
Field & Odds: https://www.racenet.com.au/melbourne-cup/field
Print version: https://www.racenet.com.au/form-guide/horse-racing/print?meetingSlug=flemington-20231107&eventSlug=lexus-melbourne-cup-race-7&printSlug=print-fields
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Soulcombe is the Richmond boys' horse of course.
Absurde has come right in with the bookies.
Usually, one of the lightweights finishes in at least a place. So gone for First History.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-Tb4q7XsAAz2Th?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/Racing/status/1721742732593435034
Soulcombe is the Richmond boys' horse of course.
Missed the start, made a desperate run at the end but had too much do and fell short.
Very Richmondy lol.
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Soulcombe still pockets $1.1 million for connections for his performance in the race, his biggest paycheck to date.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/11/07/hell-never-ever-forget-this-race-did-horror-steer-cost-soulcombe-melbourne/
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‘More nervous than a GF’: Tigers stars’ $1.1m Cup payday... but it was almost even bigger
James Dampney
News.com.au
November 7th, 2023 7:20 pm
Jack Riewoldt may have just retired from the AFL, but things are looking pretty rosy post-footy after a hefty win on Melbourne Cup day.
The former Richmond full forward is part of a racing syndicate called Punt Road End and its star performer is the Chris Waller-trained Soulcombe.
Riewoldt’s premiership-winning teammates Tom Lynch, Liam Baker, Nathan Broad and Jack Graham are also part of the syndicate.
While Soulcombe couldn’t quite chase down Without A Fight in the showpiece Melbourne Cup at Flemington on Tuesday, the five-year-old gelding still put massive smiles on the group’s face.
Soulcombe’s runner-up finish comes with a $1.1 million payday for his owners, with Riewoldt conceding he was more nervous on Cup morning than on Grand Final day.
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Soulcombe running second to Without A Fight and (inset) some of the Richmond players in the Punt Road End syndicate.
Source: News Corp Australia
“You look at the run and we probably ran up the back of a few horses there and maybe you ask, ‘What if?’” Riewoldt told Racing.com.
“For us, as a smaller syndicate, the Punt Rd End boys, just to be here, we’ve played on one of the biggest stages on the Australian sporting calendar and to be here again on another one and have a live runner and a runner that’s run so well is so exciting.”
It caps a stunningly successful period for the British horse, with Soulcombe winning three times on home soil in mid-2022 before taking out the Queen’s Cup at Flemington as the hot favourite 12 months ago.
Another victory came in the Heatherlie Stakes in September this year and an impressive seventh in last month’s Caulfield Cup, again behind winner Without A Fight, had owners confident of a good showing in the race that stops a nation.
The one drawback is Soulcombe’s habit of bombing starts, missing the start by five lengths in the Caulfield Cup and again struggling out of the gate on Tuesday.
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Jayden Short, Tom Lynch and Jack Riewoldt watching Soulcombe during gallops at Caulfield Racecourse on October 17, 2023. (Photo by Vince Caligiuri/Getty Images)
Source: Getty Images
Waller may have a little regret over his words from last week when he stated “we’ve decided against (barrier education), I think more is less with the barrier work”.
But no one can argue with the pace and results of the horse.
With world-class jockey Joao Moreira taking the ride on Soulcombe, Riewoldt couldn’t hide his excitement leading into Cup day.
“Joao Moreira jumps on board, arguably one of the best jockeys in the world, so there’s a few things pointing in the right direction for us,” Riewoldt said last week.
“For the Punt Road End syndicate, we’re exciting to have a runner and I mean its one of Australia’s best sporting occasions.
“To be there and live that three minutes of just nail biting, sweating in a suit, just anticipation, its very similar to the three minutes before a grand final.”
Riewoldt added he’s adjusting to the racing world in retirement.
“Racing is probably a little bit different (to footy) as we can’t influence it one bit, like I can’t go up to Soulcombe and whisper in his ear,” he said.
“Footy we’re actually able to impact and try and get a kick ... whereas we sit back in the lap of Chris Waller, Joao Moreira, Soulcombe and the racing Gods.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/more-nervous-than-a-gf-tigers-stars-11m-cup-payday-but-it-was-almost-even-bigger/news-story/2db73aa022e596ac67ac74832b4d170c
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Outsider Knight’s Choice won this year's race in a photo finish. Warp Speed was second and Okita Soushi third.
https://x.com/FlemingtonVRC/status/1853651747828351454
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Ch7 news had a brief comment from Liam Baker who was obviously at the Cup on why he left Richmond. Also a snippet from Jack Graham with Jayden Short standing in the background
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Baker also had a ride in one the races.... :shh