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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 26, 2009, 07:17:59 PM
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Welcome Matthew :thumbsup
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Another utility from North Ballarat. Welcome aboard Matthew. :thumbsup
A player with a predominant basketball background.
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Any details?
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Matthew Dea
DOB: 13/10/91, Height: 186cm, Weight: 83kg
Recruited from: Ballarat Clarendon College /North Ballarat Rebels (VIC)
The former elite junior basketballer has rocketed up the order and now looks certain to be drafted. Dea has an exceptional vertical leap, explosive pace and the ability to play forward or back. His considerable scope for improvement is believed to be an attraction for the Lions. Adelaide and Collingwood are the other leading contenders, but he is now unlikely to last until the Pies' next pick (No.62). Dea captained the under-18 Country Victoria basketball team and was a member of the Victorian under-20 state team.
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Matt Dea
D.O.B: 13-Oct-1991
Club: North Ballarat
State: VIC
Height: 186cm
Weight: 82kg
Position: Midfielder
Super athletic player whose tremendous leap makes him a formidable force in the air. Explosive pace at ground level and clean hands are features. Has a physical presence. Captain of Under-18 Country Victorian Basketball team. His 2.93 sec 20m at the Vic screening confirmed his pace and 74cm standing jump highlighted his leap (top 8%).
Video: http://offseasondraft.championdata.com/afl_off_season_draft/offSeasonDraft/player_profile.jsp?player_id=116140 (http://offseasondraft.championdata.com/afl_off_season_draft/offSeasonDraft/player_profile.jsp?player_id=116140)
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Matt Dea
D.O.B: 13-Oct-1991
Club: North Ballarat
State: VIC
Height: 186cm
Weight: 82kg
Position: Midfielder
Super athletic player whose tremendous leap makes him a formidable force in the air. Explosive pace at ground level and clean hands are features. Has a physical presence. Captain of Under-18 Country Victorian Basketball team. His 2.93 sec 20m at the Vic screening confirmed his pace and 74cm standing jump highlighted his leap (top 8%).
Video: http://offseasondraft.championdata.com/afl_off_season_draft/offSeasonDraft/player_profile.jsp?player_id=116140 (http://offseasondraft.championdata.com/afl_off_season_draft/offSeasonDraft/player_profile.jsp?player_id=116140)
but can he play? just saw some highlights ... thank god there just highlights because hopefully theres more to see. On those highlights ... I cant see it :-\
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2009 National Draft - Matt Dea (Pick 44)
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/portals/0/richmond_docs/matt%20dea%20web.jpg)
DOB: 13/10/91
Height: 186.3cm
Weight: 83.0kg
Club: Nth Ballarat Rebels, TAC Cup
What the recruiters say:
Matt has been a late starter to football having played basketball at elite junior levels for Victoria and for the Ballarat Nuggets in 2009 where he averaged over 10 points and 3 assists per game.
Matt was spotted by our recruiters playing for Ballart-Clarendon College early in 2009 and they monitored his progress closely before he came to play 3 games for the North Ballarat Rebels in the TAC Cup. He impressed with a 13 disposal, 5 mark, 5 rebound 50 performance against the Calder Cannons in only his 2nd TAC Cup game.
Matt impressed with his aerial ability at centre half back in games for his school, with his spring and sure hands a feature. Then he was also prominent as a fast leading forward out of the goal square where he his power and lateral movement helped him to kick 3 goals in a one quarter burst.
After only 3 games with the Rebels, Matt was invited to the Victorian Screening day in October where he was impressive with a 2.93sec 20 sprint, 8.44 sec agility run and a solid 13.5 beep test score.
Matt still has a lot to learn about the game of AFL football but the club is genuinely excited about his further development. He has shown tremendous natural athletic ability in his games and a courageous edge to his play in defence. The skill required to play at the highest level is a great one however Matt has already demonstrated rapid progress in this area. He will be looked on to initially be developed as a rebounding defender in his early years.
Matt Dea in his own words:
What type of player are you?
A very explosive player, who knows how to use their athleticism and size. Player with clean and strong hands, who can have an immediate impact.
Which AFL player do you feel you resemble, and why?
Sam Fisher of St Kilda, because of his ability to play at both ends of the ground. More so because of the impact he can have on aerial contests, with regard to his size and athleticism.
What are your strengths as a footballer?
Athleticism with a strong build. Strong hands, both at ground level and in the air. Good leg speed.
What parts of your game would you like to improve?
Game awareness and knowledge. The ability to know where to run in order to put myself in an attacking position. Also, my skills under pressure.
Which AFL team do you support and how did you come to barrack for them?
Essendon. My father supports them, hence I was not given much of a choice in the matter.
Who has been the biggest influence on your career so far, and why?
Shaun Moloney. He was the coach of my school football team and exposed me to the desire and intensity that is needed to play footy at an elite level. Furthermore, despite him not being the most skilled footballer, he showed me what is really needed to succeed in football – that being an intense passion and commitment.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2010/2009NationalDraft/MattDea/tabid/15519/Default.aspx
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Matthew Dea - Half Back stuff
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hope this bloke makes it. i reserve judgement on him cos it's unfair to do so. obviously athletic. i wonder why we grabbed him so early. perhaps a few clubs were lining up for him. i think in the burgan mock he went no long after pick 44. so perhaps it was justified.
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I would say we stretched for Dea at 44 and he was more a late pick (50+) although Burgan had him going at 47. They would have seen how easily he's picked up footy in terms of awareness and knowing what to do out there under pressure (something lacking at Punt Rd). His versatility is also attractive as he can play forward, mid or down back and his leap allows him to play taller for someone of his midfielder height. A risk? Yeah sure as he's only played around 3 games but there's plenty of upside as well.
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The part in the vidio where he goes back with the flight of the ball like J.Brown just won me over.
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I actually realy like what I see.
Has sure hands. Nice relaxed kicking action. 1 thing that stands out that he doesn't muck around with the ball you never see him stopping, is constantly on the move when he gets the ball even when he marks in defence just plays on.
At Pick 44 what more could you ask for, compare him to Rance at pick 18 and I don't think you'd find many differences.
I really like the look of this kid.
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Already he is better than Raines. :lol
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I am with you Pope Lord, I really liked what I saw in the video, if he was number 48, gee he has some go, I am going to tip this kid to play quite a few games next year and be our smokey.
Welcome Matt!!!!!!
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Yep he's #48 in the video clip.
Already he is better than Raines. :lol
Yep Dea definitely doesn't suffer from running on tramtracks lol.
Dea needs polishing still (so can we now trust our player development under Hardwick?) but what I like especially is his the vision even in traffic and how he's able to stand up in tackles and get the ball to a teammate in better position. He appears to keep his composure under pressure and doesn't panic. So un-Richmond like lol.
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how do you see his kicking style and skills?
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how do you see his kicking style and skills?
Hands are exceptional which shows his basketball background. Kicking not perfect but he always kicks to the advantage of his teammate. That's why I had him as a late pick. Plenty to work with but he needs polishing as he's only played 3 games.
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Which sports star would you rather be?
abc.net.au
August 21, 2009
Would you rather the size and agility of Australian NBA star Andrew Bogut, or the poise and composure of AFL midfielder Chris Judd?
One of Ballarat's most promising young sports stars, Matt Dea, has to answer this question.
Dea is currently weighing up the options of either playing AFL in Australia, or jetting over to the US to take up a college basketball scholarship.
Playing both sports is not an option for Matt.
The pending decision has resulted in many sleepless nights for the 17-year-old but it's a dream scenario that countless young athletes would love to find themselves in.
At the start of the year Dea was given an ultimatum by his basketball club and told to make a choice one way or the other.
Despite being on the North Ballarat Rebels list he chose basketball, the sport he had grown up playing.
Dea played 11 basketball games for the Ballarat Nuggets in 2009 averaging just over 10 points and three assists a game, but he wasn't happy with his performance.
''The team didn't do as well as we would have hoped and my own personal performance wasn't as strong as what I would have liked, which was probably a contributing factor to why I thought basketball wasn't the right decision,'' Dea says.
Although football had been Dea's second choice for much of his life a successful campaign with the Ballarat Clarendon College football team and an unsatisfactory basketball season has led to a change in opinion.
''The last couple of years I've started playing footy and tried to manage the two [football and basketball] and basketball just took priority, and now it's changing again and I'm playing a bit of footy at the moment.''
Dea was a key member of Ballarat Clarendon College grand final triumph in the Herald Sun Country Cup on Wednesday, earning himself a call-up to the North Ballarat Rebels where he will make his debut on Saturday.
A solid performance this weekend may help make the decision easier for Dea and a football career may become the easier option.
''It's a bit more challenging getting an American scholarship but we'll see what happens and it will come down to the decision I make at the end of the year, whether to stick with footy or play basketball, but there's a lot of things you have to weigh up so it will be tough,'' Dea says.
"At the start of the year the main reason I was looking to go to college was for the free education and just a massive life experience.
" There are a lot of things that could go wrong in America like being away from family for so long, going over there and not getting played, so there are a lot of things I've been weighing up lately and thinking perhaps footy is the way to go.''
The football basketball question seems to be a common problem for Ballarat based athletes.
Just last year Miners starting point guard Ricky Henderson was drafted to AFL club the Adelaide Crows after playing basketball for much of his life, while North Ballarat Rebels big man Liam McInerney decided to take up a basketball scholarship in America despite interest from several AFL football clubs.
There's no certainty that Dea will get drafted by an AFL club and an American College scholarship isn't on the table yet but both parties have shown much interest and his future looks bright.
http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2009/08/21/2662826.htm
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From: New challenge for Rebels' trio
By David Brehaut
Ballarat Courier
27 Nov, 2009
The Tigers secured Dea, of Mildura, at their next opportunity with pick 44.
Rebels regional manager Phil Partington attended the draft in Melbourne and spoke to Richmond ... officials immediately after selections were completed.
"They're rapt," he said.
"They had also shown real interest in Matt Dea for some time.
"There was always a big chance he'd go there (to Richmond)," Partington said.
[Dea] followed the draft at home ... with father Geoff, mother Jillian and sister Rebecca, 14.
Dea said he was struggling to come to terms with it.
"I can't believe it. It's unreal," he said.
Dea was focused on carving out a basketball career at the start of this year.
"It's a massive turn of events."
He said he had been extremely nervous before being drafted.
"It was a real shock when my name came up.
"I thought I was a rookie at best - I still can't believe it.
"I just want to get to training," Dea said.
http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/local/sport/football-australian-rules/new-challenge-for-rebels-trio/1689566.aspx?storypage=0
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how do you see his kicking style and skills?
Hands are exceptional which shows his basketball background. Kicking not perfect but he always kicks to the advantage of his teammate. That's why I had him as a late pick. Plenty to work with but he needs polishing as he's only played 3 games.
kicking not perfect??
then how the hell was he selected with just a few games under his belt.
FJ must see something we cant as he did with 90% of the players he has drafted
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Just from the highlights reel, he looked pretty good with his hands in the air and below the knees even under pressure.
His disposal looked ok for mine, didn't always pop it on the chest but usually got it out in front of a team mate to collect it.
He can only get better, I think he could be a pretty good get :thumbsup
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I can't see his late entrance to the game being an issue especially since he has elite athletic ability and contested possessions are a constant part of Basketball. After all Jacko, who was also recognised for his elite athletic ability was a rower.
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His kicking is decent and he's only played 3 tac cup games. He can only improve.
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Its not like he never played the game before this year. He played as a junior, then moved his focus to basketball in recent years and has now come back to football.
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Trip to scout player makes Tigers' Dea
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/trip-to-scout-player-makes-tigers-dea-20091127-jwzo.html
Good article on how Jackson rates this bloke and how a few other clubs do too. Mentions a bit on Free's nipper too.
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Another player that has originated from Richmond old recruiting grounds of Sunraysia.
It will be good to see him play for us.
I have to say that I'm going to bias here and say he will do well for us.
Congradulations to him for making the grade.
They don't a short interview with him on our local news and he kicked a footy into the Basketball goal.
But I don't know if it was just one kick or many.
Don't really know nothing about him apart from what I have stated.
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sounded like there was a few keen and Jackson was trying to keep him secret haha.
I liked what I saw, he seems very calm and measured in everything he does.
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Trip to scout player makes Tigers' Dea
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/trip-to-scout-player-makes-tigers-dea-20091127-jwzo.html
Good article on how Jackson rates this bloke and how a few other clubs do too. Mentions a bit on Free's nipper too.
Yep it is interesting...
Here's the entire article :thumbsup
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Trip to scout player makes Tigers' DeaEMMA QUAYLE
November 28, 2009 .
ONE Wednesday afternoon during winter, Francis Jackson drove to Ballarat to watch Ballarat and Clarendon College play St Patrick's College in a school game.
The Richmond recruiting manager was there to see Josh Free, the midfielder son of former captain Tony whom he was deciding whether to draft as a father-son recruit. Eventually, he decided not to. But the trip proved more than worthwhile.
That day, the recruiter's attention was grabbed not by Free but by his teammate at centre half-back. Matt Dea was tall, quick, agile and clearly a basketballer.
''That was the first thing that came into my head,'' said Jackson, who soon discovered that Dea not only played basketball but was very good at it, having represented Vic Country at under-18 level, played seniors for the Ballarat Nuggets and barely played any football in the past few years.
That prompted a second thought: how much footy had he actually played? Had Dea not played club football for three years the Tigers could have signed him as an unregistered player, so Jackson got to work investigating his background.
What followed was a bit of good, old-fashioned cloak-and-dagger recruiting.
With Dea's school coach working as a part-time recruiting scout for Adelaide, he couldn't go there for information. So he had his contacts in Dea's home town, Mildura, check him out.
The answer? It had been 2½ years since he was registered with any team. ''I crashed out there,'' said Jackson, ''but we kept watching him, and in every game we saw he looked just that little bit better. Every game we went to I'd be looking to see which other recruiting guys were there, it was all cloak and dagger, hiding behind trees stuff.''
As the end of the season approached ,Jackson thought he might, maybe, have kept his young defender out of other clubs' eyes for long enough. But - to Jackson's frustration - the North Ballarat Rebels promoted him for the final few games of their season.
Sydney and Collingwood became keen and Dea was invited to a state screening session following the draft camp, where he ran a 2.93-second 20-metre sprint and a level 13.5 beep test.
Jackson was even more interested but - not wanting other clubs to know he was interested - left it until last Friday to meet the 18-year-old, catching up with him in an otherwise empty cafe in Whycheproof, two hours from Mildura and three from Melbourne.
''I knew Sydney was interested and Collingwood flew him down on Monday, so there was a whole lot of intrigue for a kid who hadn't even played much football,'' he said.
''He's a really good kid, an intelligent kid and we were just hoping he'd manage to get through to us.''
He did - Dea became a Richmond player at the No. 44 pick. And Free? Overlooked for a father-son spot, he may yet get to wear a black and yellow jumper.
''He's another good kid and he's been training with us for two weeks,'' Jackson said. ''He's in contention for a rookie spot.''
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Tigers put the work into recruiting Dea
Roger Vaughan
November 29, 2009 - 6:24PM
AAP
A few days before the AFL national draft, Matt Dea discovered the lengths that clubs can go to as they try to find recruiting gems.
Dea sat down with Richmond recruiting manager Francis Jackson in a country town cafe and quickly realised he had been the subject of a football espionage mission.
Jackson had been compiling information on the former Victorian country junior basketball captain while trying to make sure other clubs were unaware of his interest.
Jackson admits he sometimes hid behind trees while watching Dea play.
"I was unaware of it until I met with Francis a couple of weeks ago, he told me the full story," Dea said.
"I couldn't believe how much homework they'd done, it was pretty surprising.
"He did say `just keep it a bit quiet'."
Jackson's homework paid off, with the Tigers selecting Dea last Thursday at pick No.44 in the draft.
He was among seven youngsters Richmond drafted and they met their new team-mates on Sunday at a club barbecue.
Dea had combined basketball and football for a couple of years, but decided earlier this year to aim for the AFL.
"Because I've played basketball for so long, it was pretty tough to go living without it," said the big leaper.
"The initial month was pretty tough, but it's fine now, it's all footy ... it doesn't get much better."
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/tigers-put-the-work-into-recruiting-dea-20091129-jyps.html
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Love of the game lures hoops star to Punt Rd
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen | Mon 30 November, 2009
MATT Dea (pronounced 'Dee') is no lifelong footballer, unlike most who get drafted.
The 186cm, 83kg Dea, who was taken by the Tigers in Thursday night's NAB AFL Draft at 44, is a late convert from basketball. He was skipper of the U18 Country Victorian basketball team and played both sports before deciding to concentrate on footy.
But it was the love of the game that got him back into the outdoor sport.
"I played basketball, and made the switch to footy late this year, and I guess it's paid off," he said at Punt Rd on Sunday afternoon.
"I've probably played about 50 games through my junior career as well.
"I only played three TAC Cup games this year, but that was good experience - so not too many, not as many as the other boys, but hopefully it won't show.
"I just started playing with the school side and started really enjoying it, and then the guys at the (Ballarat) Rebels started saying I should have a real crack, and here we are."
Those three matches with the Rebels in the TAC Cup were very frustrating for Richmond recruiting manager Francis Jackson, who had been watching Dea for a while and was hoping he'd just play school footy and go unnoticed by the other clubs.
But that was ruined when the Rebels selected him, so Jackson had another chat to Dea.
"I was unaware of it until I met with Francis a few weeks ago and he told me the full story," he said.
"I couldn't believe how much homework they'd done, so it was pretty surprising.
"But Francis just told me to keep it a bit quiet."
The 18-year-old is a terrific athlete with a tremendous leap, pace and clean hands, who doesn't mind putting his body in traffic.
He said it was already proving tough to live without basketball, where he played point guard, which is generally the quarterback role on the court, although he said he was uncertain how much of that would translate to the football field.
"You don't play footy for the money or for anything else, you play it because you love it," he said.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/87672/default.aspx
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This kid could be the right spanner for our works. I really hope he does really well for us and for him too.
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Tiger’s d-day
By Lachlan Taylor
Sunraysia Daily
28 Dec, 2009
THE changerooms at Matt Dea’s new club were just like any other he had entered during his football career.
“When we first walked into the changerooms, to see everyone getting ready just like a normal day at training, it was a bit unreal,” Dea said.
But rather than the usual country football types, this changeroom was filled with AFL stars the likes of Ben Cousins, Brett Deledio and Chris Newman, as Dea started his life as an AFL footballer with Richmond.
“The best thing to say is that it’s just been overwhelming,” Dea said.
“When we got out on to the track for the first few kicks I was a little nervous, but after that it was just like any other session.
“All the other boys at the club have been in the position we’ve been in, so they were very welcoming and willing to help out and do anything possible to make it easier for us.”
After a brutal four weeks of pre-season training, 18-year-old Dea is back home in Mildura over the Christmas-New Year break.
Picked up by Richmond with pick 44 in the AFL National Draft in November, Dea began training with the Tigers almost straight away and said it had taken some getting used to.
“Constantly just having your mind on the go with training and recovery then gym, you need to be switched on the whole time. That’s the biggest thing I’ve found,” Dea said.
“The quantity of training is amazing. You’ll do a running session in the morning and then go back and be ready to do weights in the afternoon and then make sure your recovery is perfect every time.”
http://mildura.yourguide.com.au/news/local/sport/general/tigers-dday/1713935.aspx
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THE changerooms at Matt Dea’s new club were just like any other he had entered during his football career.
And that's why Punt Rd is being redeveloped lol. The changerooms hadn't changed in over 30 years :P.
Dea began training with the Tigers almost straight away and said it had taken some getting used to.
Dea definitely did it tough on the first day especially in the repeat endurance running.
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From Hougie on BF:
"Dea has hamstring issues and will be restricted for a fortnight or so. Did it over Christmas."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16614874&postcount=288
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Pods got away from him a bit in the last quarter when the pressure from our midfield dropped off but by the sound of it from WP Dea's first 3 quarters were quite impressive on debut across HB. He was drafted for his awareness skills coming from a basketball background. How was his footskills WP or anyone else who went today?
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Considering we missed thursty and mcgaune against tassie, thought our defence was really good today.
Geelong got 5 in 5 mins in the last which really flattered their score.
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A toey Tiger sees a chance
BY GAVIN MCGRATH
Ballarat Courier
11 Aug, 2010 11:56 PM
FORMER North Ballarat Rebel and Ballarat Clarendon College footballer Matt Dea has had to learn a thing or two about patience this year.
Drafted by Richmond last year with pick 44 in the AFL national draft, Dea had his first taste of AFL football in round four this year, against Melbourne, along with fellow 2009 recruit and former North Ballarat Rebel David Astbury. That debut was followed by consecutive games in round five (Fremantle) and six (Geelong).
Since then, times have been lean. Dea injured his foot in the match against Geelong and has not played an AFL match since.
Astbury, meanwhile, has increased his tally of matches to 15.
However, the signs are finally looking brighter for the 18-year-old.
"I'm hopefully playing next week with the Coburg reserves," Dea says.
"When we first came across the stress fracture in my foot, I think I came back too soon. The second time round, we have been a lot more careful with my progression, kicking and running."
Being on a long-term injury, listed as "indefinite" for much of the season, has meant Dea has not been able to train often with the main Richmond playing group.
Fortunately, Dea has had a role model of sorts during his recovery, in fellow injured Tiger Nathan Foley.
"My training has been away from the main group a lot. It's unfortunate," Dea says.
"A blessing has been Nathan Foley, who has been working with me. The way he trains and the encouragement I get from that, it shows there is light at the end tunnel."
After a long rehabilitation, even playing reserves football in the VFL will be a treat, and an encouragement heading into season 2011.
"Having played and then having it taken away was very frustrating. Any footy I can get would be really nice," Dea says.
"I think I can still have a good finish to the season. The next goal is to get a really good pre-season under my belt and come back fit next year."
http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/local/sport/general/a-toey-tiger-sees-a-chance/1911118.aspx
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Matt Dea update ...
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/375778/matt-dea-update/
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIQbmRiVpms&feature=player_profilepage
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You might find that if Dea gets through the game this week he will be in the Seniors the week after.
The club has high hopes on him!!
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You might find that if Dea gets through the game this week he will be in the Seniors the week after.
The club has high hopes on him!!
Club had high hopes for Relton Roberts, Adam Pattison, Danny Meyer, Troy Taylor, Adam Thomson, etc etc etc.
Play him on the big ground in Perth, he will get well and truely found out
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No arguments here.......
Has a long way to go does Matty Dea.
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You might find that if Dea gets through the game this week he will be in the Seniors the week after.
The club has high hopes on him!!
Club had high hopes for Relton Roberts, Adam Pattison, Danny Meyer, Troy Taylor, Adam Thomson, etc etc etc.
Play him on the big ground in Perth, he will get well and truely found out
Then perhaps a good thing he gets played then Jack ;)
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Coming from a long way back but this kid is a student and has a FANTASTIC attitude to his football.
Wouldn't write him off.
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can he play footy though ??? ::) ::)
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can he play footy though ??? ::) ::)
How about we wait and see.
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can he play footy though ??? ::) ::)
Only one way to find out, what have we got to lose ;D
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Dea is playing his first AFL game for the season on Sunday.
Jackstar will be pleased ;D.
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Just shows what a joke we are.giving guys "token" games .he was poor last week.Hardwick said 2 months ago.no more gifted games at punt rd.since then.all down hill
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according to the coaches and one or two posters on here Dea did a pretty good job in keeing Saad quiet, someone who you seem to rate highly jacky.
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Just shows what a joke we are.giving guys "token" games .he was poor last week.Hardwick said 2 months ago.no more gifted games at punt rd.since then.all down hill
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You must like losing .I don't
I play guys who aren't up to it? Forget the Richmond spin.Dea was on Saad for 20 mins
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You must like losing .I don't
I play guys who aren't up to it? Forget the Richmond spin.Dea was on Saad for 20 mins
And you must like being a looser Period! the amount of spin that you post here is unbelievable. Never read a thing you have been right about. You would be better of posting your BS over at Big Footy, your posts are way better suited to that forum :lol :lol
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I wish you would stop being so subtle, TT, bloody hard to understand your message. ;D
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Well Tiger.you must like losing .why play duds and leave Post out.even Nason went ok
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You must like losing .I don't
I play guys who aren't up to it? Forget the Richmond spin.Dea was on Saad for 20 mins
how do you know that?
were the posters who said it before the coburg report also just spinning?
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Well Tiger.you must like losing .why play duds and leave Post out.even Nason went ok
Mate, you need to get down to punt road and get yourself a job! Actually I can't believe Brendan Gale hasn't been in touch yet :o :o You no all the answers and seem to no all the fixes! Eff the Fighting Tiger Fund we should have just hired you and all would be saved :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow
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Why do I feel sleepy?
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Well Tiger.you must like losing .why play duds and leave Post out.even Nason went ok
Mate, you need to get down to punt road and get yourself a job! Actually I can't believe Brendan Gale hasn't been in touch yet :o :o You no all the answers and seem to no all the fixes! Eff the Fighting Tiger Fund we should have just hired you and all would be saved :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow
Good idea
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and its know all the fixes.
With a K
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The club got rid of Jackstar, leaked more than the Titanic did JJ..........
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and its know all the fixes.
With a K
Knot where I come from ;)
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The club got rid of Jackstar, leaked more than the Titanic did JJ..........
barrell of laughs :rollin
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and its know all the fixes.
With a K
Knot where I come from ;)
:lol
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Coach's favourite (understatement) according to Cambo. Dimma wanted to play Dea earlier this year but he was injured. They rate him highly and love his diligence, his attack on the footy and the way he plays.
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Coach's favourite (understatement) according to Cambo. Dimma wanted to play Dea earlier this year but he was injured. They rate him highly and love his diligence, his attack on the footy and the way he plays.
and thats why we havent won a game for 2 months
""they "' havent got much idea it seems :banghead :banghead :banghead
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JJ, if we heard you the first time then we will hear you the 766th time. Give it a bloody rest would you
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JJ, if we heard you the first time then we will hear you the 766th time. Give it a bloody rest would you
Okay JT, not a problem.
What about one last time and make it 767 ?
Seeing I was in a 767 last week , LOL
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LOL ;D I hear what you're saying man but we cant do anything about what the club is doing. We have to sit back with a beer and hope. It's all we can do
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Let's get smashed. :cheers
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Why do I feel sleepy?
:lol
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wrapt to see this kid back, could be anything :shh
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Lets hope he has improved from his last game coz if theres no improvement he is in serious trouble. Infact Id say he just doesnt need improvement he needs massive massive improvement. The last foray into the world of AFL wasnt that flash to be honest.
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oh ok, generally spaeaking there should be some upside following first 3 or 4 senior games, but hey I ight be a little crazy :lol
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oh ok, generally spaeaking there should be some upside following first 3 or 4 senior games, but hey I ight be a little crazy :lol
On the last performances he was no where near AFL standard. Lets hope this time its different.
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listen im as impatatient as anyone but sheesh give a kid a break, how many senior games has he played
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listen im as impatatient as anyone but sheesh give a kid a break, how many senior games has he played
This is RFC no one gets a break anywhere ;D
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listen im as impatatient as anyone but sheesh give a kid a break, how many senior games has he played
why ? he only played 3 games at TAC level, give me a break will you
No wonder the club has been down the bottom for so long
tomorrow will see how good he is , let his football do the talking
he was ordinary last week and gets a game :banghead
I hope the kids does well, but that wont happen, reality
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The club got rid of Jackstar, leaked more than the Titanic did JJ..........
barrell of laughs :rollin
Didnt deny it......
Any piece of information JJ had was quickly passed onto to his good mate "Two phones" :shh oopss FACT!!!!
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my name aint Paul Armstrong :lol
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my name aint Paul Armstrong
We know that JJ
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can tell you ,know more about whats happening down there now than i ever did. why ?
players cant help themselves.
Its even more staggering what opposition players know as well ::)
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can tell you ,know more about whats happening down there now than i ever did. why ?
players cant help themselves.
Its even more staggering what opposition players know as well ::)
It happens at all levels and at all clubs to a certain degree.
We aint the only club and you know that.
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I know that, and you know that, so whats your problem?
Big deal, i am best mates with 2fones, have been for 10 years, so what !!!
havent you got any friends ?
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can tell you ,know more about whats happening down there now than i ever did. why ?
players cant help themselves.
Its even more staggering what opposition players know as well ::)
Yeah but when it is all said and done doesn't it come down to YOU as individual deciding what's the right thing to do.
Knowing that in part you are dealing in most cases with kids who don't know when to keep their traps shut or honestly don't think if they say soimething it will get posted all over the interent.
You have two clear distinct choices. IMHO you can either 1/ repeat it or 2/ not repeat it...
Choice is ultimately yours
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thats amazing, considering the social media these days.
Players have alot to answer for
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There was a reason that A. Clarkson took the phones off his players early this year. ;)
They are the texting kings !
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thats amazing, considering the social media these days.
Players have alot to answer for
All of the players have their stuff set to private.
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thats amazing, considering the social media these days.
Players have alot to answer for
All of the players have their stuff set to private.
you missed the point, they text mates at other clubs.
Nothing to do with stuff
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I am really happy Dea is getting a game this week. Other than Conca, Hellbig and Batch, all that started playing early this year, we haven't had much to hang our hats on in terms of seeing players come through. Other than Martin, not even seeing much from the 2009 draft!! Sad, boring time to be a Tigers supporter! :sleep
The Tigers are that bad, they make even reading this forum boring. Just nothing really interesting to read or write about.
A real waste of a year in almost all facets, just to match the last 10.
And they tell us to be patient. :banghead
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Matt Dea ::) ::) ::)
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Matt Dea ::) ::) ::)
Please explain??
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I am really happy Dea is getting a game this week. Other than Conca, Hellbig and Batch, all that started playing early this year, we haven't had much to hang our hats on in terms of seeing players come through. Other than Martin, not even seeing much from the 2009 draft!! Sad, boring time to be a Tigers supporter! :sleep
The Tigers are that bad, they make even reading this forum boring. Just nothing really interesting to read or write about.
A real waste of a year in almost all facets, just to match the last 10.
And they tell us to be patient. :banghead
Good post.
Dea looks miles away to me, is struggling to keep up with the pace of the game.
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Matt Dea ::) ::) ::)
Please explain??
He cant play, very simple
Why on earth we have players on our list that we are teaching to play the game
Rance gave him the biggest spray today of all time, it was basic footy skills.
Thats why we are where we are as a footy club.
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Matt Dea ::) ::) ::)
Please explain??
He cant play, very simple
Why on earth we have players on our list that we are teaching to play the game
Rance gave him the biggest spray today of all time, it was basic footy skills.
Thats why we are where we are as a footy club.
:thumbsup
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Rance is developing some decent leadership ability IMHO. Now all he has to do is spray the likes of Jackson, Graham, Edwards and about 10 others and he can be challenging Cotch for the top job down the line ;D
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leadership skills = yelling at people, dunno bout that lol.
Dea can play, he was going alright. Needs more games.
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leadership skills = yelling at people, dunno bout that lol.
Dea can play, he was going alright. Needs more games.
;D
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Sitting high up inthe Subi stands my view was Dea really struuggled with the pace of the game and for a dfender played off his opponent far too much
Standing at least 10-15 metres (sometimes up to 20 metres) away from your direct opponent ins't a good look
Also they ran off him far too easily .......well that's how in looked up from where I was sitting ;D
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WP.does the same at Coburg.if you can't play at coburg.you can't play at AFL.Rance gave him a huge spray as well
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He started off good I thought but got looser as the game went on. Not sure why, tiredness maybe but, early on he was competing well I thought.
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fair chance of tiredness playing a big part Owl. he's hasnt played a lot of footy this year, and has probably never had a chance to build a big fitness base due to injury to start with.
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collingwood were looking at him as a draft option - good enough for mine - in saying that, their player development is light years ahead of us, they can mould a player - we just lay Mr Whippy cables
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Rance gave him the biggest spray today of all time, it was basic footy skills.
I thought that was the case too on first glance but the replay showed he was upset at the umpire for not picking up that he was being held. Check the replay again.
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Is Jackstar spinning yarns again to suit his agenda? Hun employee for sure.
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Rance gave him the biggest spray today of all time, it was basic footy skills.
I thought that was the case too on first glance but the replay showed he was upset at the umpire for not picking up that he was being held. Check the replay again.
Spot on, he was giving the umpire a spray not Dea as some have suggested.
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Rance gave him the biggest spray today of all time, it was basic footy skills.
I thought that was the case too on first glance but the replay showed he was upset at the umpire for not picking up that he was being held. Check the replay again.
exactly
havent u learned already that most of what comes out of someones mouth is sailors!!!
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Matt Dea...way to early in his fotball life to pass judgement
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Rance gave him the biggest spray today of all time, it was basic footy skills.
I thought that was the case too on first glance but the replay showed he was upset at the umpire for not picking up that he was being held. Check the replay again.
Spot on, he was giving the umpire a spray not Dea as some have suggested.
behind the goal camera shows his argiung with Dea
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Matt Dea...way to early in his fotball life to pass judgement
Perhaps Gigantor, what was it, his fourth game?
He only fluffed one of his 12 possies yesterday whilst never trying anything particularly bold so that's a positive. Defensive positioning can be coached. He can get fitter.
However, alarm bells, there are a couple of things that are already a huge cause for concern, willingness to put his body on the line is non existent, won't crash a pack, attempt to influence the contest, some bad signs there, these are things that you have to do if you aren't in the elite skills bracket, hope to see some dramatic improvement there!
Actually, come to think of it, I'm sick of gifting games to softies, I don't care how many games you've played. Look at first game players from other clubs, they would die for the cause! Putting your body on the line esp as a defender cannot all be left to the 'cannon fodder' such as McGuane. It should be mandatory for all 22 to make the commitment!
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Way too much common sense in the last post
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Rance gave him the biggest spray today of all time, it was basic footy skills.
I thought that was the case too on first glance but the replay showed he was upset at the umpire for not picking up that he was being held. Check the replay again.
Spot on, he was giving the umpire a spray not Dea as some have suggested.
behind the goal camera shows his argiung with Dea
Not sure about this, Rance was clearly giving it to the umpire not Dea.
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i can only recall seeing Rance giving it to the umps
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dea looked comfortable at the level, winning countless one on ones, he was least of our worries ::)
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i can only recall seeing Rance giving it to the umps
Exactly! Jackstar is a number 1 wanker that make crap up at random to suit his story's.
No other words for it, the guy is a total flog :sleep :sleep
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Rance gave him the biggest spray today of all time, it was basic footy skills.
I thought that was the case too on first glance but the replay showed he was upset at the umpire for not picking up that he was being held. Check the replay again.
Bull he was going off at the umpire as he was held of the ball.
it is sad that some people just fix on a player and can not let it go.
Spot on, he was giving the umpire a spray not Dea as some have suggested.
behind the goal camera shows his argiung with Dea
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i can only recall seeing Rance giving it to the umps
Exactly! Jackstar is a number 1 wanker that make crap up at random to suit his story's.
No other words for it, the guy is a total flog :sleep :sleep
Rance or Jackstar?
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i can only recall seeing Rance giving it to the umps
Exactly! Jackstar is a number 1 wanker that make crap up at random to suit his story's.
No other words for it, the guy is a total flog :sleep :sleep
::)
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i can only recall seeing Rance giving it to the umps
Exactly! Jackstar is a number 1 wanker that make crap up at random to suit his story's.
No other words for it, the guy is a total flog :sleep :sleep
Tell you what I can do for you
I have a tape here .
If i can edit the tape, I will send it to you
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i can only recall seeing Rance giving it to the umps
Exactly! Jackstar is a number 1 wanker that make crap up at random to suit his story's.
No other words for it, the guy is a total flog :sleep :sleep
At least Jackstar's posts are readable, your posts indicate that the Tasmanian education system is still stuck in Van Diemen's Land.
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i can only recall seeing Rance giving it to the umps
Exactly! Jackstar is a number 1 wanker that make crap up at random to suit his story's.
No other words for it, the guy is a total flog :sleep :sleep
Tell you what I can do for you
I have a tape here .
If i can edit the tape, I will send it to you
lol....Sure, you have the behind the goals tape :lol
I recorded the game and have watched the incident over and over again, the spray was directed at the umpire for holding which was clearly there, while he was giving the ump the spray he turned and looked at Dea for support you putz. Now you have just gone and made up that the spray was directed at Dea to corroborate you story that you think he is crap, once again making crap up to suit yourself :wallywink
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i can only recall seeing Rance giving it to the umps
Exactly! Jackstar is a number 1 wanker that make crap up at random to suit his story's.
No other words for it, the guy is a total flog :sleep :sleep
At least Jackstar's posts are readable, your posts indicate that the Tasmanian education system is still stuck in Van Diemen's Land.
Sorry DCrank, I will type slower for you next time..... :-* :-* :-*
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Hey Tiger for Tas.
Love your banner/signature on your posts.
Classy stuff ! :thumbsup
They said they same about Wayne Carey, LOL
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Hey Tiger for Tas.
Love your banner/signature on your posts.
Classy stuff ! :thumbsup
They said they same about Wayne Carey, LOL
I'm all Class buddy ;)
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Hey Tiger for Tas.
Love your banner/signature on your posts.
Classy stuff ! :thumbsup
They said they same about Wayne Carey, LOL
I'm all Class buddy ;)
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Whats funny - Rance was the wipping boy not long ago - now he is our best defender - By a country mile
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Whats funny - Rance was the wipping boy not long ago - now he is our best defender - By a country mile
So true and IMO will get better still if we can get some decent players to support him. At the moment he is holding the entire backline down by himself and under the circumstances is doing a fantastic job :bow :bow
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Whats funny - Rance was the wipping boy not long ago - now he is our best defender - By a country mile
it's like when you fall of a bike and you have to get get staraight back on and try again.
get it wrong with one whipping boy and quickly find another
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Matt Dea...way to early in his fotball life to pass judgement
Perhaps Gigantor, what was it, his fourth game?
He only fluffed one of his 12 possies yesterday whilst never trying anything particularly bold so that's a positive. Defensive positioning can be coached. He can get fitter.
However, alarm bells, there are a couple of things that are already a huge cause for concern, willingness to put his body on the line is non existent, won't crash a pack, attempt to influence the contest, some bad signs there, these are things that you have to do if you aren't in the elite skills bracket, hope to see some dramatic improvement there!
Actually, come to think of it, I'm sick of gifting games to softies, I don't care how many games you've played. Look at first game players from other clubs, they would die for the cause! Putting your body on the line esp as a defender cannot all be left to the 'cannon fodder' such as McGuane. It should be mandatory for all 22 to make the commitment!
I have watched just about every VFL and pre season practice match Dea has played over the last 2 years and he is not soft. I think the opposite - his commitment to the contest is first rate. Reminds me of Duncan Kellaway in some ways.
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I agree antay
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Matt Dea...way to early in his fotball life to pass judgement
Perhaps Gigantor, what was it, his fourth game?
He only fluffed one of his 12 possies yesterday whilst never trying anything particularly bold so that's a positive. Defensive positioning can be coached. He can get fitter.
However, alarm bells, there are a couple of things that are already a huge cause for concern, willingness to put his body on the line is non existent, won't crash a pack, attempt to influence the contest, some bad signs there, these are things that you have to do if you aren't in the elite skills bracket, hope to see some dramatic improvement there!
Actually, come to think of it, I'm sick of gifting games to softies, I don't care how many games you've played. Look at first game players from other clubs, they would die for the cause! Putting your body on the line esp as a defender cannot all be left to the 'cannon fodder' such as McGuane. It should be mandatory for all 22 to make the commitment!
I have watched just about every VFL and pre season practice match Dea has played over the last 2 years and he is not soft. I think the opposite - his commitment to the contest is first rate. Reminds me of Duncan Kellaway in some ways.
I respect your opinion, you have seen a lot more of him than I have, I do hope your right, I've only seen him at AFL level where his commitment to the contest has been below par.
Brad Helbig, on the other hand, appears willing and able to put his body on the line every time it's required, anyone can see the difference- at AFL level anyway..
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Matt Dea...way to early in his fotball life to pass judgement
Perhaps Gigantor, what was it, his fourth game?
He only fluffed one of his 12 possies yesterday whilst never trying anything particularly bold so that's a positive. Defensive positioning can be coached. He can get fitter.
However, alarm bells, there are a couple of things that are already a huge cause for concern, willingness to put his body on the line is non existent, won't crash a pack, attempt to influence the contest, some bad signs there, these are things that you have to do if you aren't in the elite skills bracket, hope to see some dramatic improvement there!
Actually, come to think of it, I'm sick of gifting games to softies, I don't care how many games you've played. Look at first game players from other clubs, they would die for the cause! Putting your body on the line esp as a defender cannot all be left to the 'cannon fodder' such as McGuane. It should be mandatory for all 22 to make the commitment!
I have watched just about every VFL and pre season practice match Dea has played over the last 2 years and he is not soft. I think the opposite - his commitment to the contest is first rate. Reminds me of Duncan Kellaway in some ways.
I dare not say it but i will, another d.kellaway, thats all we need
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Matt Dea...way to early in his fotball life to pass judgement
Perhaps Gigantor, what was it, his fourth game?
He only fluffed one of his 12 possies yesterday whilst never trying anything particularly bold so that's a positive. Defensive positioning can be coached. He can get fitter.
However, alarm bells, there are a couple of things that are already a huge cause for concern, willingness to put his body on the line is non existent, won't crash a pack, attempt to influence the contest, some bad signs there, these are things that you have to do if you aren't in the elite skills bracket, hope to see some dramatic improvement there!
Actually, come to think of it, I'm sick of gifting games to softies, I don't care how many games you've played. Look at first game players from other clubs, they would die for the cause! Putting your body on the line esp as a defender cannot all be left to the 'cannon fodder' such as McGuane. It should be mandatory for all 22 to make the commitment!
I have watched just about every VFL and pre season practice match Dea has played over the last 2 years and he is not soft. I think the opposite - his commitment to the contest is first rate. Reminds me of Duncan Kellaway in some ways.
I respect your opinion, you have seen a lot more of him than I have, I do hope your right, I've only seen him at AFL level where his commitment to the contest has been below par.
Brad Helbig, on the other hand, appears willing and able to put his body on the line every time it's required, anyone can see the difference- at AFL level anyway..
thank you, huge difference between the 2.
helbig is miles ahead
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You are aware that Brad is only 4 months younger than Matt and comes from a heavy footy background. Similar picks (40'ish). You'd hope that Brad is ahead but that Matt shows the potential to improve.
Do you have a clue ????
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You are aware that Brad is only 4 months younger than Matt and comes from a heavy footy background. Similar picks (40'ish). You'd hope that Brad is ahead but that Matt shows the potential to improve.
Do you have a clue ????
No I am fckin clueless ::)
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No I am fckin clueless
Bingo... :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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You are aware that Brad is only 4 months younger than Matt and comes from a heavy footy background. Similar picks (40'ish). You'd hope that Brad is ahead but that Matt shows the potential to improve.
Do you have a clue ????
Yeah fair enough on skill levels, polish, defensive positioning etc etc
But there are non negotiables as a defender and one of them is sacrificing your body to a contest. McGuane cops heaps on OER but I've never seen him shirk.
Let's be honest, Dea opted not to include himself in a couple of packs on Sunday- not to get front and square mind you-he did not want to get involved at all. He thought McGuane or Thursty might do it for him.
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i must be clueless,
debating with internet nuffers ::) ::)
Bingo ! :rollin :rollin :rollin
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You are aware that Brad is only 4 months younger than Matt and comes from a heavy footy background. Similar picks (40'ish). You'd hope that Brad is ahead but that Matt shows the potential to improve.
Do you have a clue ????
Yeah fair enough on skill levels, polish, defensive positioning etc etc
But there are non negotiables as a defender and one of them is sacrificing your body to a contest. McGuane cops heaps on OER but I've never seen him shirk.
Let's be honest, Dea opted not to include himself in a couple of packs on Sunday- not to get front and square mind you-he did not want to get involved at all. He thought McGuane or Thursty might do it for him.
he did the same at Coburg the previous week and gets a game with richmond the next, work that out.
Glad to see that some actually watch the game
well done D.Crane
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You are aware that Brad is only 4 months younger than Matt and comes from a heavy footy background. Similar picks (40'ish). You'd hope that Brad is ahead but that Matt shows the potential to improve.
Do you have a clue ????
He's been employed be several AFL clubs so I think he'd have some sort of idea, HKTugboat.
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Nah, I am clueless
I am a simpleton
I tell myself I can only get better as I am starting from very low base.
I keep telling myself , i want to reach the heights of the highly intelligent posters on OER.
Please god, grant me this wish. ;) ::)
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I wish I could judge football and tall defenders as well as HKTiger. :(
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oh yeah, i forgot to mention , this is supposed to be elite football.
Not picking players in hope they will improve
Thats the major downfall at Punt Rd, has been for 25 years
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Nah, I am clueless
I am a simpleton
I tell myself I can only get better as I am starting from very low base.
I keep telling myself , i want to reach the heights of the highly intelligent posters on OER.
Please god, grant me this wish. ;) ::)
Nah, you're far from clueless. I find most of your posts amusing ... bitter and twisted but amusing.
You're an extremist. You should be the leader of a sect.
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I wish I could judge football and tall defenders as well as HKTiger. :(
Yeah he's had a poor season. Time might be running out for him. He does seem lost at the moment.
I'll hold out hope. But I'm sure you knew that anyway.
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You are aware that Brad is only 4 months younger than Matt and comes from a heavy footy background. Similar picks (40'ish). You'd hope that Brad is ahead but that Matt shows the potential to improve.
Do you have a clue ????
Yeah fair enough on skill levels, polish, defensive positioning etc etc
But there are non negotiables as a defender and one of them is sacrificing your body to a contest. McGuane cops heaps on OER but I've never seen him shirk.
Let's be honest, Dea opted not to include himself in a couple of packs on Sunday- not to get front and square mind you-he did not want to get involved at all. He thought McGuane or Thursty might do it for him.
I missed that. One of the big wraps on Matt to date has been that he will go hard for the ball. I hope it's just 1st game back nerves. Time will tell I'm sure.
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I wish I could judge football and tall defenders as well as HKTiger. :(
Yeah he's had a poor season. Time might be running out for him. He does seem lost at the moment.
I'll hold out hope. But I'm sure you knew that anyway.
Haha fair enough. I was on the Sarge bandwagon til the end...at least your man is being picked most weeks (even if it probably is to increase his value). :thumbsup
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Nah, I am clueless
I am a simpleton
I tell myself I can only get better as I am starting from very low base.
I keep telling myself , i want to reach the heights of the highly intelligent posters on OER.
Please god, grant me this wish. ;) ::)
Nah, you're far from clueless. I find most of your posts amusing ... bitter and twisted but amusing.
You're an extremist. You should be the leader of a sect.
Nah, just RUTHLESS !.
Dont pussyfoot about, just cut players if not up to it
raise the bar high, our players are content to do the "'limbo rock" unfortunately
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oh yeah, i forgot to mention , this is supposed to be elite football.
Not picking players in hope they will improve
Thats the major downfall at Punt Rd, has been for 25 years
:lol
you post some crap at times JJ but that surely takes the cake?
except for older established players, every club hopes that every draftee will improve ...don't they?
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oh yeah, i forgot to mention , this is supposed to be elite football.
Not picking players in hope they will improve
Thats the major downfall at Punt Rd, has been for 25 years
:lol
you post some crap at times JJ but that surely takes the cake?
except for older established players, every club hopes that every draftee will improve ...don't they?
NO, can tell you that Heppell was a ready made player according to those at the AFL camp last year.
Adam Patterson for example was a player picked in hope he would improve, was never going to improve, had no skill below his knees, HOPELESS in fact
Mate I could go on, cant be bothered
We rookie Hicks,PLEASE DONT GET ME STARTED
J Pod trained at RFC and we showed him the door.
Our recruiting has been terrible
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Nah, just RUTHLESS !.
Dont pussyfoot about, just cut players if not up to it
raise the bar high, our players are content to do the "'limbo rock" unfortunately
we have been ruthless the past two seasons and will be again this year but you can only cut them if you can replace them with better players! With a shallow talent pool out there this year I think we would be mad to delist a 2nd year player who has been injured for half his time at the club.
He may have some floors to overcome but surely at this stage he would be better on our list next season than a pick between 80 and 100?
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so heppel is as good as hes going to get?
:lol
wont improve from here on in?
:lol
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so heppel is as good as hes going to get?
Fiora...... :lol :lol
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We wanted to rookie j Pod but were not allowed as they were restrictions on the age - back then there were no mature aged rookies.
Having said that, our rookies selections in the past few years have been poor and very poor when compared to Freo.
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Hicks was never ever ever going to make it
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oh yeah, i forgot to mention , this is supposed to be elite football.
Not picking players in hope they will improve
Thats the major downfall at Punt Rd, has been for 25 years
:lol
you post some crap at times JJ but that surely takes the cake?
except for older established players, every club hopes that every draftee will improve ...don't they?
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J Pod trained at RFC and we showed him the door.
Our recruiting has been terrible
And at the time we requested special permission to rookie list him The AFL denied our request and changed the rules a year later. Geelong also had doubts and only rookie listed.
FACTS are FACTS
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looked pretty good to me for a fella in his 4th or 5th game, incredible how some of the luminaries in here can make a call after 2 hitouts ::)...wonder what they would have said of Phar lap after running unplaced in first few starts :lol
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Looked good to me too
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oh yeah, i forgot to mention , this is supposed to be elite football.
Not picking players in hope they will improve
Thats the major downfall at Punt Rd, has been for 25 years
:lol
you post some crap at times JJ but that surely takes the cake?
except for older established players, every club hopes that every draftee will improve ...don't they?
NO, can tell you that Heppell was a ready made player according to those at the AFL camp last year.
Adam Patterson for example was a player picked in hope he would improve, was never going to improve, had no skill below his knees, HOPELESS in fact
Mate I could go on, cant be bothered
We rookie Hicks,PLEASE DONT GET ME STARTED
J Pod trained at RFC and we showed him the door.
Our recruiting has been terrible
Look at all the players drafted from Gippsland Power are ready made players. They work very hard & have the best facilities.
The list of current players is huge :thumbsup ;D
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Played well in my book - won a lot of one on ones and would suggest he will het better
PS: Was very impressed ( close to BOG) with the super dud Alex Rance- put up your hand if you had previously binned him as he's our best defender by far . He should be proud of himself .
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Played well in my book - won a lot of one on ones and would suggest he will get better
PS: Was very impressed ( close to BOG) with the super dud Alex Rance- put up your hand if you had previously binned him as he's our best big defender by far . He should be proud of himself .
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looked pretty good to me for a fella in his 4th or 5th game, incredible how some of the luminaries in here can make a call after 2 hitouts ::)...wonder what they would have said of Phar lap after running unplaced in first few starts :lol
I love the fact that we can come in here and have a laugh. Thanks for using the word 'luminaries" pmsl. HAHAHAHAHAHA ;D :lol
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pretty sure i haven't glad-ragged him yet.
First time i really noticed him on what he did.
Like.
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J Pod trained at RFC and we showed him the door.
Our recruiting has been terrible
There are 3 possible scenarios here Jackstar.
1. You're really stuffing stupid
2. You are not stupid but you have no idea what's actually going on around you.
3. You are deliberately twisting the facts to suit your argument, in effect lying and hoping no one actually remembers the facts.
Which one is it?
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tuff one Jak....glad he asked u that one and not me.
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Anyone who thought the kid couldn't play needs to have a look at the last quarter when he out-marked O'Keefe.
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Option 4 is the correct answer .only an imbecile would reply to my post.well done Oiafi.your the winner
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Anyone who thought the kid couldn't play needs to have a look at the last quarter when he out-marked O'Keefe.
Yep .give him a 3 year contract on that effort
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Replay on foxtel at 8.30.his first quarter was poor.improved in the latter parts of the game..all will say.watch the replay .already watched it on IQ
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Have to admit hes improved from his first 2 games where he was diabolical but he still has a long way to go. Hopefully he comes through and makes it. Alex Rance had just about everyone on the forums questioning his ability but he has won over the supporters with hard work and effort and hopefully Dea does the same.
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Hey Oiafi.where is Matty White playing next year??
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Rance was excellent today.credit where is due..Will Thursfield was good as well.Having Grimes back next year with Moore and Astbury back will allow Rance to not take a tall..Connors will be a thing if the past with Houli,Newman and Batchelor playing HB roles
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J Pod trained at RFC and we showed him the door.
Our recruiting has been terrible
There are 3 possible scenarios here Jackstar.
1. You're really stuffing stupid
2. You are not stupid but you have no idea what's actually going on around you.
3. You are deliberately twisting the facts to suit your argument, in effect lying and hoping no one actually remembers the facts.
Which one is it?
all 3 and for the record put j pod in a crap team and u have a sub standard player, i dont rate him at all
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Replay on foxtel at 8.30.his first quarter was poor.improved in the latter parts of the game..all will say.watch the replay .already watched it on IQ
how many games has the teenager played :o
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Dea was pretty good after 1/4 time. He'll easily keep his spot in the side next week. Top contested mark btw running back with flight.
J Pod trained at RFC and we showed him the door.
Our recruiting has been terrible
There are 3 possible scenarios here Jackstar.
1. You're really stuffing stupid
2. You are not stupid but you have no idea what's actually going on around you.
3. You are deliberately twisting the facts to suit your argument, in effect lying and hoping no one actually remembers the facts.
Which one is it?
all 3 and for the record put j pod in a crap team and u have a sub standard player, i dont rate him at all
The AFL stopped us recruiting JPod as back then (2006?) you weren't allow to draft mature rookies who had previously been on an AFL list (even if it was 10 years ago at Collingwood IIRC). The AFL has changed the mature rookie rule since and Geelong grabbed him.
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who was it that questioned his courage?
NFI
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who was it that questioned his courage?
NFI
Pointless having courage if you can't kick
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example is Foley
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Will say his last quarter was ok
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Showed plenty today. I've heard a great deal around here about how bad this guy is and how he has no chance of making it well from what I saw today, I think we may well of found another player here. His desposal skills were not poor by any means. Sometimes I think some people make snap judgements on players early and then try and convince others, and even themselves, that they were right even when all proof would indicate otherwise.
The lesson here is - don't right players off early regardless of how they appear at the beginning of their careers.
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We are playing a lot of kids 1 or 2 years ahead of time. If they were playing at a top four team they would probably only get 1/2 dozen games in the first 2 years if that.
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who was it that questioned his courage?
NFI
Pointless having courage if you can't kick
surely you are a politician.
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who was it that questioned his courage?
NFI
Me.
I can only go off what I had seen, which was his first 4 games, in which he displayed none.
Obviously today he put his body on the line, they all did when asked. I would much rather he make a fool of me than continue with the way he was going.
Now that I know what he is capable of, courage and desperation wise, I expect to see it every week and I will very gladly eat humble pie on here if he becomes the full package.
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Showed plenty today. I've heard a great deal around here about how bad this guy is and how he has no chance of making it well from what I saw today, I think we may well of found another player here. His desposal skills were not poor by any means. Sometimes I think some people make snap judgements on players early and then try and convince others, and even themselves, that they were right even when all proof would indicate otherwise.
The lesson here is - don't right players off early regardless of how they appear at the beginning of their careers.
Nah, not on this forum Stripes, you must have posted this here by mistake. ::)
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who was it that questioned his courage?
NFI
Me.
I can only go off what I had seen, which was his first 4 games, in which he displayed none.
Obviously today he put his body on the line, they all did when asked. I would much rather he make a fool of me than continue with the way he was going.
Now that I know what he is capable of, courage and desperation wise, I expect to see it every week and I will very gladly eat humble pie on here if he becomes the full package.
:lol
after jacky's bite i had thought it was him.
:cheers
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The white D. Wade. 8)
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Option 4 is the correct answer .only an imbecile would reply to my post.well done Oiafi.your the winner
Why? Because you never say anything worthwhile replying to? You never make any sence. Yet again you deflect attention from one of your stupid, self important comments with you meaningless drivel. You know you're lying you suit your own agenda, you're just not man enough to admit it. There you go, I'll concede you're not a stuffing idiot, you're simply a dishonest egotist.
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Hey Oiafi.where is Matty White playing next year??
Why don't you tell me and I'll be 100% sure where he won't be playing. Your informations been that bad since you were sacked from the Tigers and the Bombers.
Don't reckon anyone tells you anything anymore because they know you can't keep your mouth shut.
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Your 100% correct. I have no idea what so ever.I am a complete imbecile.I spend all my time in the queue at centrelink and can't read or write.I am a complete nuffer
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who was it that questioned his courage?
NFI
Me.
I can only go off what I had seen, which was his first 4 games, in which he displayed none.
Obviously today he put his body on the line, they all did when asked. I would much rather he make a fool of me than continue with the way he was going.
Now that I know what he is capable of, courage and desperation wise, I expect to see it every week and I will very gladly eat humble pie on here if he becomes the full package.
Have a slice now. He has been nothing but courageous the last two weeks getting crunched backing into packs with the flight of the ball. Ill even sprinkle some used kitty litter on it for flavoring.
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full package includes having more kicks than handballs, why ?
As you must have confidence in your own kicking ability to play in D50.
If you ratio of kicks to handballs is 20/80% , you will struggle to make it.
Good players usually kick more than they handball.
I have nothing against the kid, and me too I hope I eat humble pie ( love pies I might add ).
But he needs to improve
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I think you had better google 'humble pie' mate :P
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Matty Dea being interviewed after the game...
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/380461/in-the-rooms-matt-dea/ (http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/380461/in-the-rooms-matt-dea/)
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very promising game form the teenager who has only a handful of career games.
Very strong and aggressive and athletic, and very intelligent and has leadership qualities as well.
The coaching staff have a really high expectations of his ability and we should all look forward to what he can achive next year on the back of a full pre-season. Very encouraging game. Tough player.
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Have a slice now. He has been nothing but courageous the last two weeks getting crunched backing into packs with the flight of the ball. Ill even sprinkle some used kitty litter on it for flavoring.
Um, I don't think so Owl.
Have another read of my post;
Now that I know what he is capable of, courage and desperation wise, I expect to see it every week and I will very gladly eat humble pie on here if he becomes the full package.
One half decent game, and it was only a half decent game, does not maketh the full package.
As Jackstar said, he has hardly even kicked the ball yet. All he has done is flip a little handball to the bloke nearest him.
He's still miles away.
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Half a decent game qualifies for a 3 year contract at punt road
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Hey D.Crane..you don't want to show too much common sense now
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very promising game form the teenager who has only a handful of career games.
Very strong and aggressive and athletic, and very intelligent and has leadership qualities as well.
The coaching staff have a really high expectations of his ability and we should all look forward to what he can achive next year on the back of a full pre-season. Very encouraging game. Tough player.
The same coaching staff that promoted and have high opinions of Tom Hilsop, recruited T. Taylor and R. Roberts.
Also the same coaching staff that have left Shane Tuck rot at Coburg for months
The same coaching staff that play Post for one week and drop him back to Coburg when he hasnt done anything wrong.
Get me a break Blaisee
Club should sign him for 3 year contact now on $400,000 :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Hey Jackstar, I'm like you, would love to be proven wrong in this case.
Richmond being a winning force means a lot more to me than whether I look like a d head on OER.
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Hey Jackstar, I'm like you, would love to be proven wrong in this case.
Richmond being a winning force means a lot more to me than whether I look like a d head on OER.
D. Crane , you are correct.
Just because the club make decisions doesnt mean they are the correct decisions
as per the last 30 years of pain- previous decisions have been the wrong decisions, as the position on the ladder indicates.
I want to be successful more than anyone.
I want to play finals and win as many games as possible, I have a young family and the kids are sick of being""easy beats""
Most supporters on here ""go off"" after a few wins.
Lets try and win the next 3 games,it would be a real measure of where we are at.
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Footy clubs have moved on JS even if you haven't.
They now have Football Operations, split into:
- Sports Medicine
- Coaching
- List Management
- Recruiting
- Player Development
- Etc.
Pretty sure the coaching staff (your term) had very limited input into the recruiting of Troy and Relton.
Contracts are issued and negotiated by List Management, also not the the coaching staff.
Don't ever let the facts get in the way of a good rant, hey. Sorry that should FACTS.
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who said that list management have got any idea ??? Hislop and Hicks says it all :banghead
Dont let facts get in the the way of a good rant.
WE ARE 13TH ON THE LADDER for a reason
and the worst performing melborne based club for the last 20 years, FACT.
By the way, the lack of money and resources havent stopped the Bulldogs and North being competitive and playing finals, have they
as for player development, YOUR DREAMING, we are the skinniest under developed bunch of players you will see in the AFL
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jack i agree we are skinny..for those with involvement at the top level when should a draftee be developing size?
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Some people elsewhere reckon Craig Cameron is doing a great job. That's fair enough but I reckon he's been poo when it comes to the LIST MANAGING. Some of the contracts he's handed out.......
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jack i agree we are skinny..for those with involvement at the top level when should a draftee be developing size?
Will Thursfield, mmmmmmmmmm
Jayden Post, been in system 3 years, still the same
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Some people elsewhere reckon Craig Cameron is doing a great job. That's fair enough but I reckon he's been poo when it comes to the LIST MANAGING. Some of the contracts he's handed out.......
McGaune got a 3 year contract last year
Hislop shouldnt be anywhere near an AFL list
Farmer likewise
Connors ::)
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i guess changing our 5 year plans every 2 for the past 30 years hasnt allowed for much development of anything
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i guess changing our 5 year plans every 2 for the past 30 years hasnt allowed for much development of anything
correct, we have had 6 five year plans in 30 years
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Jury is still out for mine
Was good in the 2nd half yesterday but what he showed in the 2nd half needs to be on show week after week for 4 qtrs
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Jury is still out for mine
Was good in the 2nd half yesterday but what he showed in the 2nd half needs to be on show week after week for 4 qtrs
Thank you WP.
Would think that Batchelor, Houli, Lids and Newman would be half back mids.
Talls would be Grimes Astbury,Rance ,Moore, Post Thursfield., forget about Connors and Mcgaune
So if Dea does improve, where does he fit in ???
last time I looked, you can only play 6 at one time in D50
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Would think that Batchelor, Houli, Lids and Newman would be half back mids.
Talls would be Grimes Astbury,Rance ,Moore, Post Thursfield., forget about Connors and Mcgaune
So if Dea does improve, where does he fit in ???
last time I looked, you can only play 6 at one time in D50
Batchelor is going to be a quality player because he is a footballer first, rather than an athlete
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Batchelor is so far advanced it aint funny.
he is a footballer and knows his trade. :thumbsup.
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gee we have an embarrasement of riches all of a sudden, that aint a defence forming, it's a dynasty :shh
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Dea needs time, looks ok
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Yep.Lara Bingle looks okay as well
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Yep.Lara Bingle looks okay as well
Que?
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Half a decent game qualifies for a 3 year contract at punt road
so what does that say about those employed by the club who have their salaries cut?
Hey D.Crane..you don't want to show too much common sense now
At least you follow you own advice
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So if Dea does improve, where does he fit in ???
I can see Dea eventually being a shut down player.
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Had a squizz at the replay today and for a bloke with just a few games under his belt Matty Dea was very impressive. Thank god some of the Jackwits on OER are a long way from our club and it's decision making.
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Hope you watched the first 15 minutes closely.kicked into the man on the mark .dropped a simple chest mark.this is elite footy .that's why we the bottom Vic team in the comp
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Had a squizz at the replay today and for a bloke with just a few games under his belt Matty Dea was very impressive. Thank god some of the Jackwits on OER are a long way from our club and it's decision making.
Tell you something behind wipe..
Am back in the system
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Hey Black.why don't you offer you services to the club and instigate a new 3 year contract for Matt.D
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Hope you watched the first 15 minutes closely.kicked into the man on the mark .dropped a simple just mark.this is elite footy .that's why we the bottom Vic team in the comp
Dusty dropped an even simpler one at the end of the 1st. if that's the guideline, I guess Dusty goes as well.
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Funny boy.Dusty is gun.Matt Dea won't make it.do you think he will play in front of Batchelor.Lids ,Newman .Houli etc.you people are dreaming
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Forgot about Helbig.Conners and Conca who also play off HB..And Grigg
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Had a squizz at the replay today and for a bloke with just a few games under his belt Matty Dea was very impressive. Thank god some of the Jackwits on OER are a long way from our club and it's decision making.
Tell you something behind wipe..
Am back in the system
I hope it's not richmond that will be graced with your rabble rousing, negative self
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Broadbeach Under 15s
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jack sorry maybe i misunderstood you,but are you saying conca wont make it?
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I watched the game again for the third time, and overall I liked Dea''s game. I can see why he is said to be a coaches favourite, he does the small things really well. Seemed to tackle fairly well, competed well enough in the air and by and large made good decisions with the football.
However, whilst jackstar is clearly an unloved figure in these forum he does raise some good and valid points regarding Dea. Firstly his disposal is suspect anything over 35 odd meters. Very good in close and that chipped ball out of defence (anyone who saw him early on in for Coburg would have seen this) but look at a) his first kick - straight into the man on the mark and then b) that kick into the corridor that was between two one on one contests. That part of his game needs a lot of refinement. Also, Houli, Deledio, Newman, Batchelor, Farmer and Dea all seem to be fitghting for the three spots. Considering how much our game plan relies on those running players off the half back line, its hard to see him displacing Houli, Deledio or Newman - and I don't think he will displace Batchelor (nor would anyone want that to happen). I guess the question then becomes can Houli, Deledio or Newman or even Batchelor be moved onto a wing or in the guts and allow Dea to operate in the best 22?
Lastly, the one thing that annoys me is where he was selected. I understand why he was selected from a very poor footy background. His body type and physical capabilities in Dea as a package are rare for a player that young. He is what you would call a high risk/ high reward pick. Thats fine we needed to take players like that. However, I wouldnt have done it back-to-back with Taylor being the very next pick...
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Funny boy.Dusty is gun.Matt Dea won't make it.do you think he will play in front of Batchelor.Lids ,Newman .Houli etc.you people are dreaming
Dea wont make it?
What you mean to say is "Dea wont make it IMHO?"
FFS Jack go have a lie down.
:lol
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Hope you watched the first 15 minutes closely.kicked into the man on the mark .dropped a simple chest mark.this is elite footy .that's why we the bottom Vic team in the comp
tosser
cotchin had 4 kicks smothered or touched so is he a dud too
jack u r boring
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I am complete imbecile .the rest of you are geniuses
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jack sorry maybe i misunderstood you,but are you saying conca wont make it?
No.Dea
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Great post by Jobba :thumbsup
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IMHO a little aerly to be making a judgement on a player his age and experience. I'll reserve my judgement until after I've seen him play a few more games.....
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Hope you watched the first 15 minutes closely.kicked into the man on the mark .dropped a simple chest mark.this is elite footy .that's why we the bottom Vic team in the comp
tosser
cotchin had 4 kicks smothered or touched so is he a dud too
jack u r boring
Poor comparison X, Cotchin is working in very confined spaces, HBF's aren't
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dea looks to be a lock for that junk yard BP that plays on the carlton smalls and milney types...we haven't has someone like that since Roger Deane
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Just give him a 3 year contract please
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you need to change your medication jack.
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Just give him a 3 year contract please
you need to change your medication jack.
Or increase the dosage.
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No.Dea
In your case it's no Idea !
post after post after post after post of absolute crap. OER is a good site but you ruin it mate. You are a first class idiot
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Yes .I am a first class idiot.we all agree what the club does is correct.we are flying as a club.facts are we are the worst performing Melbourne based club in the past 20 years.
Might as well promote Hicks and give him a 3 year contract
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First class idiot .sounds good to me.no arguments from me.now black .let me guess .your a brain surgeon ??
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you need to change your medication jack.
you know how it is when he knows he's stuffed up and now cant find a hole big enough to swallow him up :lol
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dea looks to be a lock for that junk yard BP that plays on the carlton smalls and milney types...we haven't has someone like that since Roger Deane
Funny thing too Mr BJ, Deane only played a part (the early days) of his career in the back pocket and actually ended up as a rover/half forward.
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Yes .I am a first class idiot.we all agree what the club does is correct.we are flying as a club.facts are we are the worst performing Melbourne based club in the past 20 years.
Might as well promote Hicks and give him a 3 year contract
Infamy, where are you?
A new sig awaits....
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First class idiot .sounds good to me.no arguments from me.now black .let me guess .your a brain surgeon ??
What does he have to do to turn you around?
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very promising game form the teenager who has only a handful of career games.
Very strong and aggressive and athletic, and very intelligent and has leadership qualities as well.
The coaching staff have a really high expectations of his ability and we should all look forward to what he can achive next year on the back of a full pre-season. Very encouraging game. Tough player.
The same coaching staff that promoted and have high opinions of Tom Hilsop, recruited T. Taylor and R. Roberts.
Also the same coaching staff that have left Shane Tuck rot at Coburg for months
The same coaching staff that play Post for one week and drop him back to Coburg when he hasnt done anything wrong.
Get me a break Blaisee
Club should sign him for 3 year contact now on $400,000 :banghead :banghead :banghead
well you thought tambling was a champion so what does that make you?
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Dea has a very very long way to go before he becomes a good AFL footballer. Hopefully he gets their but I have my doubts also.
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Dea has a very very long way to go before he becomes a good AFL footballer. Hopefully he gets their but I have my doubts also.
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He's just one of those players when I watch him he doesn't say to me "footballer", to me he is an athlete first who can play footy but I have no idea how well he plays footy
Not convinced that is enough to make it
Hope to be proven wrong but not sure I will be
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now black .let me guess .your a brain surgeon ??
Compared to some people I am.
Ever heard of commas Jack ? Oh and it's you're , as in you are. ;)
I'm guessing year 8 was the best 4 years of your life ;D
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now black .let me guess .your a brain surgeon ??
Compared to some people I am.
Ever heard of commas Jack ? Oh and it's you're , as in you are. ;)
I'm guessing year 8 was the best 4 years of your life ;D
Hey, I thought I was the Grammar NAZI around here.
:lol
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Dea has a very very long way to go before he becomes a good AFL footballer. Hopefully he gets their but I have my doubts also.
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He's just one of those players when I watch him he doesn't say to me "footballer", to me he is an athlete first who can play footy but I have no idea how well he plays footy
Not convinced that is enough to make it
Hope to be proven wrong but not sure I will be
no one knows if he will make it thats for sure.
But he is 18 and has a solid body and the physical attributes, lets give him 20 games before we make a decision. I would much rather he gets games than Farmer thats for sure.
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Dea has a very very long way to go before he becomes a good AFL footballer. Hopefully he gets their but I have my doubts also.
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He's just one of those players when I watch him he doesn't say to me "footballer", to me he is an athlete first who can play footy but I have no idea how well he plays footy
Not convinced that is enough to make it
Hope to be proven wrong but not sure I will be
no one knows if he will make it thats for sure.
But he is 18 and has a solid body and the physical attributes, lets give him 20 games before we make a decision. I would much rather he gets games than Farmer thats for sure.
Agree 100% on that :thumbsup
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no one knows if he will make it thats for sure.
But he is 18 and has a solid body and the physical attributes, lets give him 20 games before we make a decision. I would much rather he gets games than Farmer thats for sure.
I'll be happy if the coaching panel can get him to a C+/B- type level. Reliable, goes when it's his turn, doesn't turn it over much because of good decision making and solid skills. One of those guys that opposition supporters don't notice, but is a critical piece of the puzzle.
It all comes down to how well we can develop him.
I agree with you blaisee, play him ahead of Farmer.
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no one knows if he will make it thats for sure.
But he is 18 and has a solid body and the physical attributes, lets give him 20 games before we make a decision.
:thumbsup
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I'll be happy if the coaching panel can get him to a C+/B- type level. Reliable, goes when it's his turn, doesn't turn it over much because of good decision making and solid skills. One of those guys that opposition supporters don't notice, but is a critical piece of the puzzle.
It all comes down to how well we can develop him.
Quality post Wayno
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now black .let me guess .your a brain surgeon ??
Compared to some people I am.
Ever heard of commas Jack ? Oh and it's you're , as in you are. ;)
I'm guessing year 8 was the best 4 years of your life ;D
Typed it on an Iphone dip shiit
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Dea has a very very long way to go before he becomes a good AFL footballer. Hopefully he gets their but I have my doubts also.
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He's just one of those players when I watch him he doesn't say to me "footballer", to me he is an athlete first who can play footy but I have no idea how well he plays footy
Not convinced that is enough to make it
Hope to be proven wrong but not sure I will be
X3
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Typed it on an Iphone dip shiit
I'm using a dipshiit phone to type this. Got you as my screensaver Jack ;D
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now black .let me guess .your a brain surgeon ??
Compared to some people I am.
Ever heard of commas Jack ? Oh and it's you're , as in you are. ;)
I'm guessing year 8 was the best 4 years of your life ;D
Typed it on an Iphone dip shiit
Jack
FYI, you can do commas on an iPhone.
:lol
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Not when you can't find your reading glasses
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Jack
FYI, you can do commas on an iPhone.
:lol
:shh
There's also an inbuilt GPS which traces stolen Iphones ;D
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What's a GPS got to do with Matt Dea.
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jack be nimble jack be quick
jack burnt off his effing d#$k
damn these iphones, most overrated pieces of crap ever, samsung galaxy , now thats a phone
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jack be nimble jack be quick
jack burnt off his effing d#$k
Hahaha ! We have a Dice Clay fan onboard. Nice !
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thats right snapper head lol
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thats right snapper head lol
;D
hahaha !.. Ok..You piece of Spam ! the...that's..that's what I think ! ;D
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Saw something in Dea in five minutes last week to tell me he will be a player. Time will tell but one thing is for sure it will be exciting.
Just an opinion but can see this kid becoming something pretty special.
And for some that cannot see it, yet, strap yourself in and enjoy the ride. :thumbsup
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Hopeless
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Hopeless
lol, Can't winge about the loose so you have to come up with something :wallywink
Fitness let him down today but as far as the two knocks you had on him (Kicking and Heart) go he was fine :-*
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Hopeless
lol, Can't winge about the loos so you have to come up with something :wallywink
Fitness let him down today but as far as the two knocks you had on him (Kicking and Heart) go he was fine :-*
He was ordinary IMHO. A long long long way to go.
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Hopeless
lol, Can't winge about the loos so you have to come up with something :wallywink
Fitness let him down today but as far as the two knocks you had on him (Kicking and Heart) go he was fine :-*
He was ordinary IMHO. A long long long way to go.
He looked unfit today but 8 months off with injury will do that to you!
He still has plenty of upside yet, way to far out to be calling for his head yet......
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Gave up chasing in the 3rd quarter .pass
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How did the umpire miss that elbow on Morton? :banghead
Don't worry about Dea, the umpires were the awful ones today!
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Gave up chasing in the 3rd quarter .pass
Your a wanker....Fact
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When he's had problems with his feet / shins all year, he'll obviously be lacking fitness. Should be played as the sub IMO.
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Gave up chasing in the 3rd quarter .pass
Your a wanker....Fact
Tassie boy doesnt like us criticising players pmsl. :lol
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Gave up chasing in the 3rd quarter .pass
Your a wanker....Fact
Tassie boy doesnt like us criticising players pmsl. :lol
I don't give a rats who you criticise but why don't you try and base it on more than a game or two, that way it won't come back and bite you in the arse ;)
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Gave up chasing in the 3rd quarter .pass
Your a wanker....Fact
Tassie boy doesnt like us criticising players pmsl. :lol
Dea had ONE kick for the game.
Had his pants pull down during the game, eg Brad Green leads etc
Might as well be playing with 17 men.
CLEARLY not up to it
Dont know what game you watched or went to, he gave Green 15 mertres start on each lead
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He was also involved in two heavy collisions which knocked him about.
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give up will you
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He was also involved in two heavy collisions which knocked him about.
yeah , one was Mitch Morton
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Gave up chasing in the 3rd quarter .pass
Your a wanker....Fact
Tassie boy doesnt like us criticising players pmsl. :lol
Dea had ONE kick for the game.
Had his pants pull down during the game, eg Brad Green leads etc
Might as well be playing with 17 men.
CLEARLY not up to it
Dont know what game you watched or went to, he gave Green 15 mertres start on each lead
As I stated, the kid lacks fitness. Agree he needs to work on that and should probably be the sub next week or have a rest but who do you bring in that will do a better job ATM??
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Chris Newman, Conca or Helbig
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give up will you
Watch the replay, it wasn't Mitch who caught him in the chops it was that Melbourne nuffer. Morton just made sure there was bread on the other side.
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give up will you
Watch the replay, it wasn't Mitch who caught him in the chops it was that Melbourne nuffer. Morton just made sure there was bread on the other side.
who reallys cares.
he cant play full stop
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No that's not true Jack. Your being irrational.
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No that's not true Jack. Your being irrational.
Mate, if you want to keep playing players who get one kick, good luck,
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Can we look at the matt dea issues again in 12 months ?.....please
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Gave up chasing in the 3rd quarter .pass
Your a wanker....Fact
yes he is, we all know Dea is not super fit yet but he has what it takes, jack knows jack poo
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I know he had one kick .forget about him.Conca and Helbig back next week
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Just an unfit kid so he will improve. But god he was terrible today!
He and superstar Farmer, Leppa must be...........
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Get rid of Farmer as well
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Just an unfit kid so he will improve. But god he was terrible today!
He and superstar Farmer, Leppa must be...........
Thank you
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I know he had one kick .forget about him.Conca and Helbig back next week
Will meet you back hear in 12 months time...thats if you haven't drowned in your own crap by then ;D
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Farmer has no excuses, he's been in the system for long enough in my opinion and just isn't up to it. Dea just isn't ready at this stage but with another good pre season he might be ok.
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I can't believe supporters stick up for a player who clearly ain't up to it.he isn't in our best 30 let alone best 18. .cannot play
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Farmer has no excuses, he's been in the system for long enough in my opinion and just isn't up to it. Dea just isn't ready at this stage but with another good pre season he might be ok.
Might be ok?? I rest my case.we live in hope
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I can't believe supporters stick up for a player who clearly ain't up to it.he isn't in our best 30 let alone best 18. .cannot play
I can't believe you repeat yourself so freaking much :banghead let it go man, let it go! Pop back over in 12 months time and we'll see where we're at :thumbsup
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Just an unfit kid so he will improve. But god he was terrible today!
He and superstar Farmer, Leppa must be...........
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god ur a loser jack
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god ur a loser jack
Post of the day :rollin :rollin :thumbsup
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I was wrong .I agree with the masses.this kids a champion .will play every game in 2012. We won't find a spot for Newman .Batchelor .Conca .Grimes .Moore.Astbury .Connors .yep I seen the light .I agree with you all.rising star nomination for tonights game
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I was wrong .I agree with the masses.this kids a champion .will play every game in 2012. We won't find a spot for Newman .Batchelor .Conca .Grimes .Moore.Astbury .Connors .yep I seen the light .I agree with you all.rising star nomination for tonights game
Now Jack, this sort of post makes you out to be a little petulant.
Just ignore everyone and you will be fine.
:lol
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I was wrong .I agree with the masses.this kids a champion .will play every game in 2012. We won't find a spot for Newman .Batchelor .Conca .Grimes .Moore.Astbury .Connors .yep I seen the light .I agree with you all.rising star nomination for tonights game
good now move along ;)
seriously jack, all trolling aside, revisit this thread next season. We've seen with Rance how a player can go from looking totally out of his depth at afl one season to literally being our best defender the next. Lay off the kid - we have 10-15 players who have had 3+ years in the system that need to be booted ahead of 2nd year kids.
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I was wrong .I agree with the masses.this kids a champion .will play every game in 2012. We won't find a spot for Newman .Batchelor .Conca .Grimes .Moore.Astbury .Connors .yep I seen the light .I agree with you all.rising star nomination for tonights game
Hang on a minute, you came out after one game and said the kid has no heart and can't kick, Dea came out the next week and proved that you were wrong, the kid put his head over the ball numerous times and ended up with a kicking efficiency of 85%! the kid may never be a champion, he may never make it with us simply because the amount of players we have for that position! But to just come out after 1 game back from injury and say he's poo is just plain stupid! Your a fool we all know it, hopefully when you get your new job at your new club next year they put an embargo on you posting hear! The forum would be a much better place without the crap you drown us in......
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Seen enough to suggest Matt Dea will be persevered with - and enough to suggest that its too early either way to suggest he wont make it.
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I can't believe supporters stick up for a player who clearly ain't up to it.he isn't in our best 30 let alone best 18. .cannot play
its because they are in denial and like to hang onto players living in the hope they will one day come good.
Mcguane, Edwards, Hislop, Farmer, Jackson, Dea, White, Thursfield, Graham, Pear, all average players who wont win you a flag. FACT!!!
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I can't believe supporters stick up for a player who clearly ain't up to it.he isn't in our best 30 let alone best 18. .cannot play
its because they are in denial and like to hang onto players living in the hope they will one day come good.
Mcguane, Edwards, Hislop, Farmer, Jackson, Dea, White, Thursfield, Graham, Pear, all average players who wont win you a flag. FACT!!!
Very true but unfortunately you can't get rid of them and replace them all in one hit.... Fact! BTW who is pear?
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I can't believe supporters stick up for a player who clearly ain't up to it.he isn't in our best 30 let alone best 18. .cannot play
its because they are in denial and like to hang onto players living in the hope they will one day come good.
Mcguane, Edwards, Hislop, Farmer, Jackson, Dea, White, Thursfield, Graham, Pear, all average players who wont win you a flag. FACT!!!
god u love dropping the soap for jack dont u
no one said dea is a champion yet, but all who know this game can see he has what it takes, one more pre season u will see and then we will pee on ur head
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Yep.seen alot yesterday.1 kick that went 15 metres.
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I can't believe supporters stick up for a player who clearly ain't up to it.he isn't in our best 30 let alone best 18. .cannot play
its because they are in denial and like to hang onto players living in the hope they will one day come good.
Mcguane, Edwards, Hislop, Farmer, Jackson, Dea, White, Thursfield, Graham, Pear, all average players who wont win you a flag. FACT!!!
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I thought he was average yesterday, got caught out a lot positioning wise and in the reading of the play. In the final qtr when the game went up a gear he looked totally lost at times
Rightly or wrongly I have no doubt they will keep him but for mine it can only be a 1 year contract extension, any longer would not be in the clubs best interest
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Batchelor.Newman.Houli.Lids.Griggs.Conca will fill the defensive sweeper spots next year anyway.don't forget Daniel Connors.or do we forget Daniel
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Seen enough to suggest Matt Dea will be persevered with - and enough to suggest that its too early either way to suggest he wont make it.
First sensible post in this thread for a fair while.
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Another very encouraging game from Matt Dea...again
Really like the look of this kid
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Another very encouraging game from Matt Dea...again
Really like the look of this kid
1 kick is encouraging .lol.hate to see when he kicks the ball 5 times in a game.you would give him a five year contract..champagne comedy ..watch the game please.he got murdered
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Seen enough to suggest Matt Dea will be persevered with - and enough to suggest that its too early either way to suggest he wont make it.
First sensible post in this thread for a fair while.
As I posted I have no doubt he will get another contract, I am bit of a believer that players need at least 3 years in the system, however giving him more than another 12 months at this stage would not be a smart move because there are still far to many question marks and can any club really afford to give 3 year deals to players on pure speculation of what "might" happen.
I thought he was good against the Swans = a number of positives but yesterday he didn't maintain that level from the week before and was found wanting a certain times...isn't the first and won't be the last but you look at say Grimes -v- Dea and I ask who's the best long term prospect at this stage
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watch the game please.
Don't need to pal. I'm happy with his progress and I'm sure the club is too. It's just the moronic , feral so-called supporters who have no clues about football who aren't at least a little encouraged by what they've seen of him.
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watch the game please.
Don't need to pal. I'm happy with his progress and I'm sure the club is too. It's just the moronic , feral so-called supporters who have no clues about football who aren't at least a little encouraged by what they've seen of him.
club hasnt got much idea based on previous 30 years performance. ::)
Grimes, Batchelor, Newman, Moore, Astbury,Connors, Conca, Helbig,Houli, Grigg, Lids,Post, Rance ,Thursfield are all before him.... Farmer ???McGaune???
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watch the game please.
Don't need to pal. I'm happy with his progress and I'm sure the club is too. It's just the moronic , feral so-called supporters who have no clues about football who aren't at least a little encouraged by what they've seen of him.
club hasnt got much idea based on previous 30 years performance. ::)
Grimes, Batchelor, Newman, Moore, Astbury,Connors, Conca, Helbig,Houli, Grigg, Lids,Post, Rance ,Thursfield are all before him.... Farmer ???McGaune???
old jack up to his old tricks.
the tiges win so you take pot shots on teenagers that have played a handful of games
how predictable and pathetic. :wallywink
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Mate, I was there cheering every goal, were you ????????
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Another very encouraging game from Matt Dea...again
Really like the look of this kid
1 kick is encouraging .lol.hate to see when he kicks the ball 5 times in a game.you would give him a five year contract..champagne comedy ..watch the game please.he got murdered
Fair Dinkum Jacko, do you get real true pleasure out of kids having a bad game.
To date, he has had no real pre-season and been injured pretty much his whole time on the list. He at least deserves some time to try and establish himself in the side!
End of next year will be decision time in respect ot Matt Dea. In some games, he has shown very good traits, in others like yesterday (and in his debut game), he has shown he has a lot to learn. Deserves a bit of time to try and prove himself.
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I can't believe supporters stick up for a player who clearly ain't up to it.he isn't in our best 30 let alone best 18. .cannot play
its because they are in denial and like to hang onto players living in the hope they will one day come good.
Mcguane, Edwards, Hislop, Farmer, Jackson, Dea, White, Thursfield, Graham, Pear, all average players who wont win you a flag. FACT!!!
And you were probably saying that about Rance last year or two??
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People need to read what Jackstar has said about Dea. He is not taking any delight from this. He said he hopes to be proven wrong on Matt Dea, personally I don't think he has what it takes either, but if someone at rfc can turn him into a footballer then I will dips me lid to them and will most certainly admit that I was wrong. His intensity for the contest has improved last two weeks but he got smashed by Sylvia and Green yesterday it was quite ugly.
It's just frustrating, watch a first gamer for Collingwood, they would break their necks to get in the way of an opposition kick. Look at what Fasolo has done in his first 5 games, why can't we get ready made smalls like that. We haven't got time to be conducting 3 year experiments.
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Mate, I was there cheering every goal, were you ????????
You were there, I was not far from you. To my right. Were you cheering every goal on? Who knows. Who bloody cares.
Perhaps though you should CTFO with your post-match 'critiques'.
They are extreme and based on what one could only be left to deduce as your own insecurities, or fear of failure. Perhaps you were hurt by someone in the past involved with the club. :help
Stop embarrassing yourself mate, it's lame.
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Oh dear
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Oh dear
Indeed. Truth hurts.
BS doesn't.
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Why are people saying Jackstar's opinions are extreme?
All he is saying is that Dea looks crap and is not in our top 30 players. Jackstar is right on this one.
"But he is an experiment" everyone says. The irish blokes going around on AFL look like better prospects than Dea.
lmao at how any opinion that is not 'mainstream' or part of a '5 year plan' is considered extreme.
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To all the people who are saying that 'it takes time' or 'we need to pump games into him'- I ask you this-
How many games does Matt Dea need to play before he is allowed to and/or supposed to kick the football?
How many games have Hawthorn won this year by flipping a mini handball off to their fellow defenders?
I'll answer the second one for you- The answer is none, their defenders trust each other to kick it accurately to position.
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Why are people saying Jackstar's opinions are extreme?
All he is saying is that Dea looks crap and is not in our top 30 players. Jackstar is right on this one.
"But he is an experiment" everyone says. The irish blokes going around on AFL look like better prospects than Dea.
lmao at how any opinion that is not 'mainstream' or part of a '5 year plan' is considered extreme.
Lmao at you nubile. You seriously wouldnt know which end of your torso to put on the can. Ever heard of developing players? Dea is an experiment. Hes played eff all games, and comes from an elite basketball background. Why don't you convince us why you think our Irish guys were better placed for a game this round? Quantify it based on what you have seen.
Jackstar blows because people who have an open mind and have been around here for long enough notice the bigger picture and the continual context of JS's opinions.
Damaged goods.
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Yep.and we are the worst performed Melbourne based team in the afl for the past 20 years.there is a reason for that.too many yes men and backslappers at punt road.FACT
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I love a good backslapper
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We gave Adam Pattison time.we have wasted so much time on players with zero ability it's laughable
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Lmao at you nubile. You seriously wouldnt know which end of your torso to put on the can. Ever heard of developing players? Dea is an experiment. Hes played eff all games, and comes from an elite basketball background. Why don't you convince us why you think our Irish guys were better placed for a game this round? Quantify it based on what you have seen.
Jackstar blows because people who have an open mind and have been around here for long enough notice the bigger picture and the continual context of JS's opinions.
Damaged goods.
Why the personal attack on me?
Is it because I am defending Jackstar?
Or because I am bagging Dea?
I meant Irish players in general, I didn't say anything about the Tigers paddys.
Yes I have heard of developing players Dubstep, now can you please answer my question;
How many games will Matt Dea have to play before he is required to have the responsibility of kicking a football?
15?
20?
How long are we going to develop (ie: carry) him for?
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Yeah how dare we carry him for more than 3 games.
Harden up.
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While other clubs produce first year players that have 26 possessions and kick 4 goals in the first game .this bloke us too scared to kick.now that's elite football
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I love a good backslapper
Back-slapper or Sack-bapper?
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Yeah how dare we carry him for more than 3 games.
Harden up.
How many should we carry him for DD?
Sorry for not cracking a stiffy over the 3 good things he did against the swans, I suppose I'm not a very good richmond supporter am i?
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Well they dropped Post on three occasions this year after 1 game.you blokes should harden up.although bit hard when your permanently limp!! Lol
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While other clubs oroduce first year players that have 26 possessions and kick 4 goals in the first game .this bloke us too scared to kick.now that's elite football
Hilarious! Of course, Cotchin was that good. No, wait, hang on?! :lol
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Yeah how dare we carry him for more than 3 games.
Harden up.
How many should we carry him for DD?
Sorry for not cracking a stiffy over the 3 good things he did against the swans, I suppose I'm not a very good richmond supporter am i?
:lol
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Am referring to the western bulldogs first gamer yesterday .while we persevere with duds..they have blooded 10 players this year to our 3, mmmmz
Harden up boys
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Might further add that Collingwood had 10 players under 55 games on Saturday night..and they all have ability and don't live in hope that one day that might be a good player .as they already are.I rest my case
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If you are a crap footballer, or 'developing' footballer as some people classify it, there are still things that you can do.
Number 1 is to beat your opponent or at least make sure they don't see much of it. I try not to use this word too much, but Dea was pwned by Sylvia yesterday then Green.
Number 2 is to affect a contest. Dea is getting better in this regard.
Number 3 is to give the ball to someone better than yourself. I'll give Dea full marks in this area. He has done that on every occasion.
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Did we lose or something?
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Am referring to the western bulldogs first gamer yesterday .while we persevere with duds..they have blooded 10 players this year to our 3, mmmmz
Harden up boys
How many players can you name on our main list that have not made their debut?
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Might further add that Collingwood had 10 players under 55 games on Saturday night..and they all have ability and don't live in hope that one day that might be a good player .as they already are.I rest my case
That is true. But they only scraped in at home against a young Brisbane outfit without Jonathan Brown.
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D crane ..with point 3 do you mean someone better than himself as in his opponent..LOL
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Just seen footscrays first game player kick a 60 metre goal with his first kick.I rest my case.as Dea won't kick because he cant
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By the way.Butcher at Port is a gem.as noticed by Tigermonk on this forum
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D crane ..with point 3 do you mean someone better than himselm as in his opponent..LOL
:lol
There was one really bad freebie he gave away yesterday! Admittedly he doesn't turn the ball over too much, that is nigh on impossible if you are handballing it 50cm to a team mate. He needs to learn how to kick the darn thing.
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Yes I'm sure that was Dea's instruction for his first game ::)
How have the Bulldogs gone this year BTW?
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Don't lie.
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Can't turn the ball over when you have one kick that goes 15 metres.
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By the way.Butcher at Port is a gem.as noticed by Tigermonk on this forum
JJ, why didn't you talk up Butcher before this week? Why suddenly after a 6 goal game??
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By the way.Butcher at Port is a gem.as noticed by Tigermonk on this forum
JJ, why didn't you talk up Butcher before this week? Why suddenly after a 6 goal game??
touché douche ;)
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stuff off if you can't post anything seriously. AM starting to see why 65 hates you, gerks and blacky. I am starting to hate you idiots
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Just watching him on winners on foxtel that just reminded me.do you want me to go through all 800 AFL players and tell you if they can play or not??lol..will tell you this though GWS had an absolute gem.
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I don't need you to tell me anything. Your strike rate is quite average dude
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stuff off if you can't post anything seriously. AM starting to see why 65 hates you, gerks and blacky. I am starting to hate you stuffers
::)
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I don't need you to tell me anything. Your strike rate is quite average dude
Put 43 on your duffle coat
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stuff off if you can't post anything seriously. AM starting to see why 65 hates you, gerks and blacky. I am starting to hate you stuffers
::)
Was talking to Dooks, champ. Told you your strike rate was poo
I don't need you to tell me anything. Your strike rate is quite average dude
Put 43 on your duffle coat
Already do, Cam Howat was a beauty :lol
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stuff off if you can't post anything seriously. AM starting to see why 65 hates you, gerks and blacky. I am starting to hate you stuffers
Ummm....that was serious???
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Cam Howat .absolute waste of space.got promoted 3 times in 3 years off the rookie list.don't go there !!!!!
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Hmmmm. I am bored, see you mofos later. will miss the owl
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Hmmmm. I am bored, see you mofos later. will miss the owl
What happened to Owl? I miss him too.......
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One thing that does please me is he gets the ball into the hands of our more experienced and better ball users / run & carry players. Looks more an inside mid than a HBF. Certainly needs more time to develop. Shock horror.
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To all the people who are saying that 'it takes time' or 'we need to pump games into him'- I ask you this-
How many games does Matt Dea need to play before he is allowed to and/or supposed to kick the football?
How many games have Hawthorn won this year by flipping a mini handball off to their fellow defenders?
I'll answer the second one for you- The answer is none, their defenders trust each other to kick it accurately to position.
he was laying into rance, Vickery and even jack reiwoldt the same way :) calling them duds and to be delisted. Goes way too hard too early. Apart from guns like lids cotch martin etc, u need to give most young players games - you can usually tell after 30ish games whether they have "it" and funnily enough rance, reiwoldt and vickery all started showing something around the 30game mark
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Not sure what this bloke brings to the side... Was like tuts on a bull tonight... The way he went down at a critical stage in the final quarter worries me... gave it away way too easily.
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struggling at this stage of the proceedings IMHO.
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Is completely useless.waste of space.some one should teach him to actually stand up first.I sat on the fence tonight and the amount of arguing between him.lids.rance and Posty was a disgrace..please don't anyone here tell me Dea can play.as he simply CANT
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Was completely lost out there tonight
Felt for young Rance (again) very little support from his other backmane tonight
Dea's problem is he isn't a good reader of the play and is too slow in his decision making...just like Post
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I've just pulled the STOP cable on his bandwagon... I want to get off :lol
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Rance trying to play on 3 blokes because the likes of Dea and Post havent got a clue is pretty unfair on the lad. Rance put in another very decent effort tonight IMHO.
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Posties stats aren't too bad out of that game. Dea had a real stinker, needs to get on top of where he needs to be.
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Posties stats aren't too bad out of that game. Dea had a real stinker, needs to get on top of where he needs to be.
Stats can be soooooooooooooooooo mis-leading Owl...he's is just too slow inthe decision making department that he ends up putting his teammante under too much pressure
As I said tough decisions need to be made
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fair call. do you reckon he has no future in any position at all? Or can he be turned around like a lot of our talls that took some time?
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fair call. do you reckon he has no future in any position at all? Or can he be turned around like a lot of our talls that took some time?
I would like to say YES I really would
But honestly my answer is NOPE
The only place I can see him being better and I use that term loosely is as a forward and I don't think there is a postion in our F50 for him because the few times he played there in the last 2 seasons he's got in the way of Jack, which brings up anothe of his other weaknesses - bad reader of the play
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I've just pulled the STOP cable on his bandwagon... I want to get off :lol
I am amazed that we even drafted him
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fair call. do you reckon he has no future in any position at all? Or can he be turned around like a lot of our talls that took some time?
I would like to say YES I really would
But honestly my answer is NOPE
The only place I can see him being better and I use that term loosely is as a forward and I don't think there is a postion in our F50 for him because the few times he played there in the last 2 seasons he's got in the way of Jack, which brings up anothe of his other weaknesses - bad reader of the play
Post is just someone our supporters liked because they thought he looked like Richo. Post should be put up for trade and if theres a taker we should take a deal otherwise he can stay on the list for another 12 months before he too gets delisted.
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Im going to go against the grain and give him another pre season and full season. Its hard enough being a young fella playing afl - game is so damn quick that only the elite juniors stand up early, the rest take a good 30-40 games, add to that Dea's been injured for a lot of the season he'd be nowhere near sharp enough, not surprising at all that he goes to ground and gets covered so quickly. Full pre season, and ill judge next season.
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Dea cannot play.don't waste your time RFC.can tell you spray that Rance and Lids gave him wasn't good
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Im going to go against the grain and give him another pre season and full season. Its hard enough being a young fella playing afl - game is so damn quick that only the elite juniors stand up early, the rest take a good 30-40 games, add to that Dea's been injured for a lot of the season he'd be nowhere near sharp enough, not surprising at all that he goes to ground and gets covered so quickly. Full pre season, and ill judge next season.
Look tony_montana, not a doubt in my mind that Dea will get another contract.. the club rate him and I really hope that he proves those of us who don't think he's up to it wrong
But based on the handfull of games he has played I just cannot see it happening ... sadly
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fair call. do you reckon he has no future in any position at all? Or can he be turned around like a lot of our talls that took some time?
I would like to say YES I really would
But honestly my answer is NOPE
The only place I can see him being better and I use that term loosely is as a forward and I don't think there is a postion in our F50 for him because the few times he played there in the last 2 seasons he's got in the way of Jack, which brings up anothe of his other weaknesses - bad reader of the play
Post is just someone our supporters liked because they thought he looked like Richo. Post should be put up for trade and if theres a taker we should take a deal otherwise he can stay on the list for another 12 months before he too gets delisted.
I remember people saying "Post will be a good player who can play back and forward, maybe even on the wing like Richo" ;D We do get a bit excited at times...:o
still have hope for Post but he needs to get a move on next season
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Hmm...
For mine, leave the criticism for the likes of Farmer, White, Jackson and co the players that are in there 4th+ seasons. Dea has played 5 AFL games. Those 5 games were probably gifted to give him a taste to build on a pre season. Probably not ready at this stage.
Rance was alot worse than Dea when he was starting out. Waste of time whinging about Dea, absolute waste of breath.
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Another very encouraging game from Matt Dea...again
Really like the look of this kid
Whats drugs are you on ?
He is totally useless :banghead
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Can we look at the matt dea issues again in 12 months ?.....please
No, tonight was enough
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Not saying he won't make it but we laughed and laughed today
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probably cost as the win. :banghead
As Rance tried his guts out to cover his man, so did Lids
Thats why the continued to give him a spray
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Matt Dea is what I call a "halfway" player.
He is always halfway between where the ball is, and where it is going. Useless.
I agree with WP, some tough decisions need to be made
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Yeah gee you guys crucify players early, then act like you were all on board all along when they come good. The kid just needs to get edjamakated bout where he needs to be. How many games has he played? Let me tell you, all up, 7, 4 for this year. Or in Owl speak, sweet FA.
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He did look funny out near the boundary line throwing his head back while trying to handball. :lol
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Yeah gee you guys crucify players early, then act like you were all on board all along when they come good. The kid just needs to get edjamakated bout where he needs to be. How many games has he played? Let me tell you, all up, 7, 4 for this year. Or in Owl speak, sweet FA.
It obvious he cannot play.
What happens at footy clubs is that they pick players in the draft and play them to justify there selection.
The clubs do a "" sell job "" on supporters pre season.
This kid has no idea, cant kick , cant stand up in a contest and he is playing AFL footy, :banghead :banghead
The way that Rance and Lids yelled at him yesterday was frustrating to them.
Feel sorry for Rance , he had to cover Deas opponent on many occassions then run back to his own opponent when the ball came in.
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He did look funny out near the boundary line throwing his head back while trying to handball. :lol
Its was laughable, comedy capers.
Whats even more laughable every time the ball came in D50, he was well under the ball or laying on the ground :banghead
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Jokestar :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Well Black.watch the game.he can't even stand up let alone be competitive at a contest ..it's up to it
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Black, stop trolling.
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time for mad monday anyway ;D bye boys
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Well Black.watch the game.he can't even stand up let alone be competitive at a contest ..it's up to it
Yep , yesterday was his worst game no doubt. Would be dropped if we had to play next week and he absolutely needs to improve his kicking. All I've ever said is give him a chance. Like all our kids, if he doesn't improve in the next 12 months make the call then.
Cheers
Go Tiges in 2012 !
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Feel sorry for Rance , he had to cover Deas opponent on many occassions then run back to his own opponent when the ball came in.
Thanks Jack - that is the exact reason I dont' think he will make it
He doesn't seem to be able to read the play at all, that coupled with his poor decision making and average skills is not a great recipe for success IMHO
Dea is a reasonable size but like Gus when bigger bodies are getting out positioned in marking contest by little pip squeaks you've got to hear the alarm bells because that is a lack of awareness and being able to read the play
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Shut Aaron Black out of the game when he went to him. I watched from Amsterdamn and noted that.
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Shut Aaron Black out of the game when he went to him. I watched from Amsterdamn and noted that.
Amsterdam is about as far away as Matt Dea is from becoming AFL standard.
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Amsterdam is about as far away as Matt Dea is from becoming AFL standard.
:thatsgold
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Shut Aaron Black out of the game when he went to him. I watched from Amsterdamn and noted that.
Amsterdam is about as far away as Matt Dea is from becoming AFL standard.
Easily the post of the year
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:lol
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He did look funny out near the boundary line throwing his head back while trying to handball. :lol
Yep, that was the one. It was classical
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Matt turns 20 today :birthday.
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I dunno why this guy gets number 7. Haven't seen anything from him that makes me think he's might make it. Helbig, Batchelor.... yes but Dea???.... I can't see it.
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I saw him running around but didnt watch closely enough, any opinions on how he was lastnight?
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I dunno why this guy gets number 7. Haven't seen anything from him that makes me think he's might make it. Helbig, Batchelor.... yes but Dea???.... I can't see it.
wouldnt think he is no where near in our top 22.
Yes. Helbig Batchelor, way ahead of him.
Then you have Morris and Ellis who can play down back as well
There is only so many seats in the bus !
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looked pretty solid last night, did his job and looked to have more awareness than his earlier games, he's a keeper alright :shh
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looked pretty solid last night, did his job and looked to have more awareness than his earlier games, he's a keeper alright :shh
You should ease up on the whole :shh thing. Inside word is you are upsetting the masses ;)
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looked pretty solid last night, did his job and looked to have more awareness than his earlier games, he's a keeper alright :shh
You should ease up on the whole :shh thing. Inside word is you are upsetting the masses ;)
well dont be so damn irritable, diversity and inclusion is a wonderful thing...terrorism if frightening :shh
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looked pretty solid last night, did his job and looked to have more awareness than his earlier games, he's a keeper alright :shh
You should ease up on the whole :shh thing. Inside word is you are upsetting the masses ;)
well dont be so damn irritable, diversity and inclusion is a wonderful thing...terrorism if frightening :shh
Is you on crack?
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Back to the topic here too ppl!
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I don't think Matt Dea is good enough :shh
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I don't think Matt Dea is good enough :shh
I dont either
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looked pretty solid last night, did his job and looked to have more awareness than his earlier games, he's a keeper alright :shh
You should ease up on the whole :shh thing. Inside word is you are upsetting the masses ;)
well dont be so damn irritable, diversity and inclusion is a wonderful thing...terrorism if frightening :shh
Is you on crack?
"Crack is cheap. I make too much money to ever smoke crack. Let's get that straight. OK? We don't do crack. We don't do that. Crack is whack." :shh
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Kid struggles at times IMHO. Sometimes he looks lost and other times he looks almost too hesitant. It's almost as if he does not want to make a mistake and not letting his instincts take over. You either have instinct or awareness in the ground or you don't. I don't think Matty does. I hope he can prove me wrong but with the depth being added to the side he may miss out.
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Still a long way off, thought giving him number 7 was very generous.
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Still a long way off, thought giving him number 7 was very generous.
i agree with the No 7, would have liked nahas to get that, wouldnt give up on kid though he looks to be able to play a defensive type role in lock down mode which we havent had since kellaways time. He'll get a chance
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Would still be behind others at this stage.
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Kid struggles at times IMHO. Sometimes he looks lost and other times he looks almost too hesitant. It's almost as if he does not want to make a mistake and not letting his instincts take over. You either have instinct or awareness in the ground or you don't. I don't think Matty does. I hope he can prove me wrong but with the depth being added to the side he may miss out.
Correct.
Its a pity as he is a really good kid
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Sounds like he is still processing rather than reacting to situations, that should change with experience. He doesn't have a lot of experience and some people take a bit longer to internalise the drill.
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From the games and training drills ive seen, its almost as if he fluctuates from over confidence (which is when he often makes mistakes by calling for the ball when he's under pressure and or turning the ball over) to under confidence. Kicking can be very average. Is still learning the game and trying to find a middle ground where things click into place and he plays right option football. it's probably mainly between the ears more than a lack of talent.
As it stands he's not in my best 22 but I think It's more probable than not that he'll end up a good player for us.
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stuff.
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Athlete or AFL Footballer ?
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Athlete or AFL Footballer ?
Athlete learning how to play football. May get there yet.
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Dea-termined: This will be a better year, says Mildura’s Richmond recruit
By Toby Prime
Sunraysia Daily
21 Feb, 2012
Mildura football-export Matt Dea said he is hoping for his best season yet as Richmond try to break a 10-year finals drought.
Dea has only played seven senior games in his two injury-plagued seasons at Punt Road after being recruited with pick number 44 in the 2009 AFL National Draft.
Dea was picked up by the Tigers with their third-round selection on the strength of three TAC Cup games with the North Ballarat Rebels
The 20-year-old made his debut in round four in 2010 where he played three games before going back to Richmond’s VFL affiliate side Coburg, where his season was ended by a broken foot.
But Dea feels that after a solid pre-season over the summer, he is over his injury worries that have cursed his first two seasons.
“I haven’t missed a session which is very promising and I think the body is starting to adapt which is what I need,” Dea said.
“It’s made me aware of what I need to work on, body wise and football wise, without a doubt.
“It might be a bit of blessing in disguise.”
Dea impressed in defence late last season when he was called in to cover for injured captain Chris Newman.
The powers that be at Punt Road saw enough in Dea to extend the young defender’s contract for another two-years, keeping Dea at Tigerland until the end of the 2013 season.
http://www.sunraysiadaily.com.au/news/local/news/news-features/deatermined-this-will-be-a-better-year-says-milduras-richmond-recruit/2461775.aspx
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Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has high hopes for Dea in 2012 and said that he would be given every opportunity to cement a place in the team’s backline . . .
“It’s a big year coming up for him,” Hardwick said.
“He’s certainly a good character and is going about things the right way.”
The Tiger coaches have been working with Dea to improve the offensive side of his game.
Read full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/129378/default.aspx
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I admit I haven't seen enough of him to have a proper judgement yet but I havent seen anything from him that has filled me with any excitement at all. And his game against the dawks was ordinary.
Looks like the coach has high hopes though. I hope he steps up.
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Dea-termined: This will be a better year, says Mildura’s Richmond recruit
By Toby Prime
Sunraysia Daily
21 Feb, 2012
Dea impressed in defence late last season when he was called in to cover for injured captain Chris Newman.
http://www.sunraysiadaily.com.au/news/local/news/news-features/deatermined-this-will-be-a-better-year-says-milduras-richmond-recruit/2461775.aspx
I would like to know the meaning of ""impressed"".
averages 3 kicks 6 handballs a game, HARDLY impressive :banghead
I want to know what drugs these reporters are on
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I admit I haven't seen enough of him to have a proper judgement yet but I havent seen anything from him that has filled me with any excitement at all. And his game against the dawks was ordinary.
Looks like the coach has high hopes though. I hope he steps up.
Fair assessment Mt Tigra - agree
Mark it in the diary folks - Mr Tigra & I agreeing on something :rollin
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I admit I haven't seen enough of him to have a proper judgement yet but I havent seen anything from him that has filled me with any excitement at all. And his game against the dawks was ordinary.
Looks like the coach has high hopes though. I hope he steps up.
Fair assessment Mt Tigra - agree
Mark it in the diary folks - Mr Tigra & I agreeing on something :rollin
:birthday
Are you serious? I truly didn't realise we haven't agreed before.
Personally I've agreed with alot of what you've posted but maybe i haven't mentioned it before.
Well atleast we both love the Tigers.
:cheers
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WP :cuddles Mr Tigra
65 :chuck
:lol
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Done nothing of note yet!
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Matt Dea - Under the Tigerscope video
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/424990/default.aspx
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Saw him pin point a pass to someone on the other 'team' today. Beautiful, any softer or harder it would've gone to his own team, but he hit his player on the chest :clapping
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Saw him pin point a pass to someone on the other 'team' today. Beautiful, any softer or harder it would've gone to his own team, but he hit his player on the chest :clapping
:huh :huh......contradicting...."pin point a pass to someone on the other team"...........any softer or harder it would've gone to his own team, but he hit his player on the chest :clapping
:huh :huh
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Saw him pin point a pass to someone on the other 'team' today. Beautiful, any softer or harder it would've gone to his own team, but he hit his player on the chest :clapping
:huh :huh......contradicting...."pin point a pass to someone on the other team"...........any softer or harder it would've gone to his own team, but he hit his player on the chest :clapping
:huh :huh
Could have worded it better, I was taking the pee. He completely missed a target to hit someone else on the chest. Whether it was to hard or soft I don't know cause there was a player in front and behind the person who marked it (good 5-10 metres)
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Saw him pin point a pass to someone on the other 'team' today. Beautiful, any softer or harder it would've gone to his own team, but he hit his player on the chest :clapping
:huh :huh......contradicting...."pin point a pass to someone on the other team"...........any softer or harder it would've gone to his own team, but he hit his player on the chest :clapping
:huh :huh
Could have worded it better, I was taking the pee. He completely missed a target to hit someone else on the chest. Whether it was to hard or soft I don't know cause there was a player in front and behind the person who marked it (good 5-10 metres)
Ah right ok, cheers, so his kicking is still letting him down then, oh well does he move ok...
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From what I saw yes didn't really watch him that kick just happen to be right in front of me, plus a good size
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Bump
He is getting worse
Falling over his owns shadows at Patterson Stadium yesterday
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Ill tell you all something, this kid isnt done by a long shot, I saw a thing or two on sunday night that made me sit back and go whoa...he has hands like a steel trap...just gets to far ahead of himself at times...he's learn and just quietly he's a mile ahead of helbig :shh
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what size are they?
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and they said it was turf toe :whistle
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Ill tell you all something, this kid isnt done by a long shot, I saw a thing or two on sunday night that made me sit back and go whoa...he has hands like a steel trap...just gets to far ahead of himself at times...he's learn and just quietly he's a mile ahead of helbig :shh
Now that's funny "miles ahead of Helbig". :lol Helbig hit a couple of targets on Sunday night..did Dea? ;D
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Got my doubts about this kid... had a shocker in the final 2011 game against the Roos... and has been ordinary in nab 1 & 2.
Hopefully he'll prove me wrong cause I don't see what Dimma sees.
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Got good size and doesnt seem nearly as scared of getting the ball as he did last season. But he's coming from a long way back, will struggle to get games early at least on current output.
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Ill tell you all something, this kid isnt done by a long shot, I saw a thing or two on sunday night that made me sit back and go whoa...he has hands like a steel trap...just gets to far ahead of himself at times...he's learn and just quietly he's a mile ahead of helbig :shh
Now that's funny "miles ahead of Helbig". :lol Helbig hit a couple of targets on Sunday night..did Dea? ;D
BJ if our kids were that good as you say we'd be premiership favourites. :-\
Dea is not going to cut it. Can't read the play and his disposal is shoddy.
To have Dea ahead of Helbig is one of the funniest things I've read on here.
Long live the clappers.
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hmm, I must be mising something on Helbig he hasnt convinced me yet. has the tambling/mitch farmer fumbles under pressure which aint a good sign...yep he looks to take a decent mark for his size, needs to build on that if he is to earn his spot in deference to being gifted one
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Whoa! The Kid has hands like Grizzly bear Paws, his legs are like Giant Red Wood tree trunks and he can run out of site faster than you van blink! I think he has more than it takes to make it in the AFL...what part of that can't you see BoJo??
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Whoa! The Kid has hands like Grizzly bear Paws, his legs are like Giant Red Wood tree trunks and he can run out of site faster than you van blink! I think he has more than it takes to make it in the AFL...what part of that can't you see BoJo??
your irreverance is killing me :lol
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:lol
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Might be okay at Coburg
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[/quote]Might be okay at Coburg
Possibly :shh
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Might be okay at Coburg
Might be okay at Coburg
Possibly :shh
Or Diamond Valley league. :shh :shh :shh
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He looks over awed. Needs a solid run at it but is fighting with better options for a shot in the backline.
Needs to make every post a winner..
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Needs to make every post a winner..
Correct. He also needs to conca his demons..
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Injury-free Dea confident he's in the mix
By Paul Daffey
5:40 PM Thu 08 Mar, 2012
WHEN Richmond half-back Matt Dea played four of the last five games in the 2011 season (he missed one though illness), it represented a breakthrough.
In his first season at Punt Road, in 2010, he was unable to play beyond round seven because of a stress fracture on his foot. He'd played three senior games.
Then most of last season was ruined by shin splints, so it was with some pride and relief that he broke into the Tigers' team late in the year.
"Those four games gave me another little taste," he said. "I couldn’t wait for the next season."
Since finishing the 2011 season on a high, Dea (pronounced Dee) has thrived. He's missed only one session during the pre-season, and that was because the coaches believed he needed a rest.
His form in the first two rounds of the NAB Cup games has been only reasonable, but such is his regard at Punt Road that he's favoured to play in the opening round and then play a large part in the Tigers' fortunes throughout the season.
Dea's aim in 2012 is to play every game. He acknowledged it's ambitious, but he gives himself every chance.
"I'm confident my body will hold up," he said. "It's just a matter of whether the form holds up."
Dea spent most of his youth in the Victorian town of Mildura playing basketball with the odd game of footy thrown in.
In year 11, by which time he was boarding at Ballarat and Clarendon College, basketball ruled his sporting life to the extent that he didn’t play one game of footy.
At the end of year 11, he was in a Victorian country basketball squad that toured the United States. His form earned the attention of several colleges, the most notable being North Carolina State.
On returning home he played in a Victorian under-20 squad — after which his motivation waned.
"Then footy happened," he said.
Dea spent 2012 playing footy with his school team. His form even at that level earned the attention of several AFL scouts.
When his school commitments had ended he played three games with the North Ballarat Rebels in the TAC Cup. His form with the Rebels was enough to convince Richmond to draft him at No.44 in the 2009 NAB National Draft.
The Tigers consider Dea a natural leader. His main strengths are a cool head — basketball tends to create good decision-makers — and the ability to apply himself to a task.
He lacks endurance, but he believes that will come through further football.
Dea's average possession count in his short career has been 10 to 15. Almost invariably his possessions have been contested.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick is urging Dea to become more attacking. He wants the 20-year-old to receive three handballs a quarter.
Dea looks forward to trying to achieve that aim with extra game time during the 2012 season.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/130298/default.aspx
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I loved that guy. He gave poo to those teenagers. I remember his screech like it was yesterday. The best damn days of my life :clapping
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;D lawl
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Centimetre perfect pass by Dea in the training video today.
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Just like a lovely Dan Jackson long kick or a brilliant spear pass from Lukey McGuane. :clapping
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saw that actually. was a nice punt.
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Centimetre perfect pass by Dea in the training video today.
Actually that is part of the problem for Dea and a number of others on our list - pinpoint accuracy in their kicking at training goes missing & not just slightly at times but consistently in games
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I call it "Lindsay Thomas syndrome"
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did this bloke play?
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Didn't see him.
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did this bloke play?
No!
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mmm lucky for us then.
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I hear we had a win :whistle
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Played for Coburg I was told
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Played well and disposed of the ball well also.
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Watching the Coburg game just proves he can't play.the coburg listed players like Contin Jordan and Wheeler have more ability than Dea.
He has no footy smarts what so ever
Stated pre season that he would play 22 games this year
Yep at Coburg
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He's done some ordinary things today
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What is an honest assessment is when Coburg listed players have more ability and better skills and footy smarts
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yep yet he has achieved more than u ever will, never seen u in a afl jumper , tosser
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Watching the Coburg game just proves he can't play.the coburg listed players like Contin Jordan and Wheeler have more ability than Dea.
He has no footy smarts what so ever
Stated pre season that he would play 22 games this year
Yep at Coburg
:sleep
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yep yet he has achieved more than u ever will, never seen u in a afl jumper , tosser
:thumbsup
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That "mongrel punt" into to the F50 in the final qtr was a shocker, could have been a game changer if the Nthn Blues had better skills and decision making
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And he's been given the number 7 jumper......mindboggling! :banghead
I saw more from Farmer than this guy. Atleast farmer could kick long he just didn't do it enough.
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Matt Dea "CAN NOT" play ... Delist at end of year ...
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I think giving him the number 7 is more of a confidence thing and nurturing him in the hope he gets to where he needs to be to play consistent footy at AFL level.
Alas he is not going to make it in my opinion. A few games late last year he did show something but it must also be noted that the sting in the season was gone by then also.
He's a good kid but he will not make it at AFL level. Just not instinctive enough and too reactive. Needs to make things happen rather than wait for things to happen.
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Dea really needs to work on his skills. Some of his kicking was very average eg that bomb in the fourth quarter.
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He's a good kid but he will not make it at AFL level. Just not instinctive enough and too reactive. Needs to make things happen rather than wait for things to happen.
He reminds me of an Irish project. Just not an instinctive footballer at all.
Has a bit of time yet but clock is ticking for him.
Biggest hurdle for Dea is the similar types on the list.
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He's a good kid but he will not make it at AFL level. Just not instinctive enough and too reactive. Needs to make things happen rather than wait for things to happen.
Biggest hurdle for Dea is the similar types on the list.
Have to disagree on this.
The biggest hurdle for Dea is himself
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Ok enough negativity of late, lets all jump on board and hear it for Matty Dea :clapping
Offensively gave great rebound and drive from the backline against Frankston, and defensively was very strong winning a lot of contests.
Time to bring him in at the expense of Jackson :thumbsup
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And bring on Jackstar..... ;D
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tick...tick...tick...tick
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Child prodigy :shh
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:bow :bow :bow
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Just keeps improving this beast
In the bests again, what's that 3 in a row?
Whoa lookout :shh
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Just keeps improving this beast
In the bests again, what's that 3 in a row?
Whoa lookout :shh
Yep. This kid could really be something special. He is a beast and he could be anything. :yep
Kudos to the recruiters who saw this diamond in the rough. Time to give him a string of games and let him prove his doubters wrong.
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have seen him play and a few time this year ,and seems to have added hard running to his game..dont know if he can replicate this in the seniors ,maybe we need to find out
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:bow :bow :bow
:bow :bow :bow :bow
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Just keeps improving this beast
In the bests again, what's that 3 in a row?
Whoa lookout :shh
Yep. This kid could really be something special. He is a beast and he could be anything. :yep
Kudos to the recruiters who saw this diamond in the rough. Time to give him a string of games and let him prove his doubters wrong.
Are you kidding? The kid doesnt kick. Serious questions about his ability were raised during draft camp ;)
Won't make it yet plenty on here think different. Only reason he got drafted is because Ty Vickery's dad is the boxing coach.
Yet another wasted draft pick :banghead
Sorry, but that was my Jackstar impression.
seriously though, i hope he makes it.
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:bow :bow :bow
:bow :bow :bow :bow
:bow :bow :bow :bow :bow (and Dookie's pyramid returns ;D)
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Your off kilter thinking Dea is any good, he has already been called out as no good after a couple games by the "experts" on here
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Your off kilter thinking Dea is any good, he has already been called out as no good after a couple games by the "experts" on here
Delist....Next!
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Your off kilter thinking Dea is any good, he has already been called out as no good after a couple games by the "experts" on here
Delist....Next!
Exactly that delisting should be backdated as well
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Your off kilter thinking Dea is any good, he has already been called out as no good after a couple games by the "experts" on here
Delist....Next!
Exactly that delisting should be backdated as well
lol.....and we should be refunded the draft pick + given a priority pick for picking up such a Dud.
Actually we should be suing the AFL for negligence for letting such a hack get into there system >:(
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Could one Dea be as good as Edwards.
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Could one Dea be as good as Edwards.
At flipping burgers... :whistle
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Edwards is the Butcher, Dea is the Butchers apprentice. He need to be on the list for 4 more years until ha can become a fully qualified Edwards ;)
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Could one Dea be as good as Edwards.
Oh but one could (neigh will) be better
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Time to bring him in at the expense of Jackson :thumbsup
Agree
Replace a player with poor skills and decision making
With a player with equal poor skills & decision making
Works for me
:outtahere
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Time to bring him in at the expense of Jackson :thumbsup
Agree
Replace a player with poor skills and decision making
With a player with equal poor skills & decision making
Works for me
:outtahere
>:( how dare you
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Time to bring him in at the expense of Jackson :thumbsup
Agree
Replace a player with poor skills and decision making
With a player with equal poor skills & decision making
Works for me
:outtahere
:lol
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he has some good qualities the kid, traps the ball clean, can take a grab, decent kick and has a good physical aspect to his game, like rance, expreience will teach him to have better awareness with what surrounds him and options...I like the boy, and he'll be an inclusion this week :shh
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Even bojangles can see it
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Bump.
Less than 24 hrs till Matty is named for his first senior game of 2012.
Well done Matty! :clapping
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Bump.
Less than 24 hrs till Matty is named for his first senior game of 2012.
Well done Matty! :clapping
:shh :lol :rollin
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Bump.
Less than 24 hrs till Matty is named for his first senior game of 2012.
Well done Matty! :clapping
No jokes remember :police: :police:
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Bump.
Less than 24 hrs till Matty is named for his first senior game of 2012.
Well done Matty! :clapping
Will spell the dea-day for West Coast :shh
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Dea Eagles wont know what hit em :gotigers
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Dea Eagles wont know what hit em :gotigers
True
When that first errant kick goes straight in the arms of Jack Darling they'll be shocked ;D
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mmmmm. DEAlicious!
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Congratulations to the absolute superstar Matty Dea on being named to play in the firsts this weekend. :clapping
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Nahas just said on the Supercoach show on Fox Footy that Matty Dea will be in sometime shortly :shh
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Nahas just said on the Supercoach show on Fox Footy that Matty Dea will be in sometime shortly :shh
Am a bit worried that your watching the Supercoach Show on Fox
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Congratulations to the absolute superstar Matty Dea on being named to play in the firsts this weekend. :clapping
Gotta game a game first and my mail is he hasnt
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Outs .Maric and Vickery
Ins Webberley and Graham
And Webberley to be sub
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Nahas just said on the Supercoach show on Fox Footy that Matty Dea will be in sometime shortly :shh
Am a bit worried that your watching the Supercoach Show on Fox
What else is there to do? Other stations are junk at the moment and the missus isn't here. What are you watching Home and Away or something? :lol
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its a kids show :lol
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its a kids show :lol
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Outs .Maric and Vickery
Ins Webberley and Graham
And Webberley to be sub
Im hearing same thing, tv will be out with the shoulder :shh
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correct
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Congratulations to the absolute superstar Matty Dea on being named to play in the firsts this weekend. :clapping
What sort of comment is that?
Matt Dea will be a fantastic Tiger. Don't put too much pressure on him BEFORE he gets his opportunity.
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Congratulations to the absolute superstar Matty Dea on being named to play in the firsts this weekend. :clapping
What sort of comment is that?
Matt Dea will be a fantastic Tiger. Don't put too much pressure on him BEFORE he gets his opportunity.
Trolololololololol ;D
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Dea Eagles wont know what hit em :gotigers
True
When that first errant kick goes straight in the arms of Jack Darling they'll be shocked ;D
That would be a Dea-saster.....
You are so negative WP, fair deankum
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That would be a Dea-saster.....
You are so negative WP, fair deankum
Do you think I dealight in being critical?
I just call 'em as I see 'em and on Dea I've been very consistent regarding the concerns I have about his ability to play the game, poor skills under pressure and poor deacision making
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That would be a Dea-saster.....
You are so negative WP, fair deankum
Do you think I dealight in being critical?
I just call 'em as I see 'em and on Dea I've been very consistent regarding the concerns I have about his ability to play the game, poor skills under pressure and poor deacision making
Glad someone goes to the games and watches the football :thumbsup
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Stick to Dea topic please people!
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Stick to Dea topic please people!
I did and did not dea-viate from it BTW
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Dea is in. He played his first game for the season against the Eagles last year too.
Our Jack will be Dea-vastated and Dea-straught ;D
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Stick to Dea topic please people!
I did and did not dea-viate from it BTW
....as you were
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on a serious note
you can see the reasons why the RFC has failed for so long
Having players who clearly arent up to it
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on a serious note
you can see the reasons why the RFC has failed for so long
Having players who clearly arent up to it
yes I agree totally.
The club has also drafted these types for far too long. Most notably former Melbourne reject and VFL star Brad Miller. Why we continue to draft anyone discarded by that club is beyond comprehension.
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Well, let's give afternoon DEA-light a chance.
He couldn't do any worse than your Jackson's or Vickerys, surely.
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He couldn't do any worse than your Jackson's or Vickerys, surely.
Aint that the truth!
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Well, let's give afternoon DEA-light a chance.
He couldn't do any worse than your Jackson's or Vickerys, surely.
Skyrocket in flight Afternoon Dea-light!
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Dea is in. He played his first game for the season against the Eagles last year too.
Our Jack will be Dea-vastated and Dea-straught ;D
:rollin
Our Jack is also dea-termined to bring our boys down.
I think Dimma is being quite dea-vious bringing him in to dea-stabilize the dea-gles small forwards.
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Ok this carry on has to stop now honestly grow up I have had enough of it for one dea...
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Ok this carry on has to stop now honestly grow up I have had enough of it for one dea...
:lol Dea hee hee
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Ok this carry on has to stop now honestly grow up I have had enough of it for one dea...
30 possessions game coming up, just DEAl with it
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on a serious note
you can see the reasons why the RFC has failed for so long
Having players who clearly arent up to it
Some people just have no iDEA.......
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on a serious note
you can see the reasons why the RFC has failed for so long
Having players who clearly arent up to it
Some people just have no iDEA.......
Wtf is he an app now? How dea-vious.
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on a serious note
you can see the reasons why the RFC has failed for so long
Having players who clearly arent up to it
Some people just have no iDEA.......
That's a done DEAl :clapping....
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on a serious note
you can see the reasons why the RFC has failed for so long
Having players who clearly arent up to it
Some people just have no iDEA.......
That's a done DEAl :clapping....
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Mate, just sick of these DEAd beat posters bashing the Guy...K
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on a serious note
you can see the reasons why the RFC has failed for so long
Having players who clearly arent up to it
Some people just have no iDEA.......
That's a done DEAl :clapping....
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Mate, just sick of these DEAd beat posters bashing the Guy...K
Good call, effin nuffys. Next time more claps please. MORE CLAPS FOR THE FOOLS :banghead
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its like stuffin DEAja vu every time i log in to this poo hole.
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Oh DEAr..... :shh
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Oh DEAr..... :shh
:bow POTY
its like stuffin DEAja vu every time i log in to this poo hole.
Aaaaaaand gold :clapping
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Gotta game a game first and my mail is he hasnt
Solid mail there
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Gotta game a game first and my mail is he hasnt
Solid mail there
Lawl are you really that suprised? ;D
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He might run out with the team but reality is he doesn't play
It's like us playing with 17 players
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In talking to him dea other day he mentioned his fave song was "let it dea" by the deatles :shh
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Gonna find my baby, gonna hold her tight
gonna grab some afternoon DEA-light.
My motto's always been; when it's right, it's right.
Why wait until DEA middle of a cold dark night.
When everything's a little clearer in the light of DEA.
And you know DEA night is always gonna be there any way.
Sky rockets in flight. BOOOOOOM! Afternoon DEA-light WOOOOP! A-A-Afternoon DEA-light
Started out this morning feeling so polite
I always though a fish could not be caught who wouldn't bite
But you've got some bait a waitin' and I think I might try nibbling
a little afternoon DEA-light.
Sky rockets in flight. BOOOOOOM! Afternoon DEA-light WOOOOP! A-A-Afternoon DEA-light.
Yayyyyyyy! :clapping
:gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
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I hope he can play because would be a classic tune to belt out in the outer
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Eff me DEArunk, what's the world coming to these days?? ::)
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Eff me DEArunk, what's the world coming to these dea's?? ::)
You missed a great opportunity^^^^.....but I fixed it ;)
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Post all your appraisal of Matty Dea's stellar game here :thumbsup
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Lol@anticipation
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This will end well
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Put his body on the line numerous times, competes well. peeed off thou that the coaching panel threw him in against wce of all sides, the guy needs to rack up the possies at the burgers for half a season and build a bit of inner belief, CLEAR he doesn't truly believe he belongs out there, the guys hardly played footy in his life, ffs why are they pushing him so hard? Way off the pace atm
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yeah, didnt do a lot, but he saved one goal with sheer courage with the flight of the ball.
one thing you not question is his commitment and courage.
who did he play on?
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He bled for us today... Can't fault him at all
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Gifted this game by Hardwick despite Hardwick claiming players would be picked on form. A reminder to Hardwick one good match at coburg doesn't mean you deserve a callup.
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It wasn't Dea's fault that he got selected. It would be good to know what the match committee were thinking when they named him. It just seemed wrong from the outset. It seemed pretty clear that he wouldn't pick up the pace of the game easily and that the back line was too short.
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Gifted this game by Hardwick despite Hardwick claiming players would be picked on form. A reminder to Hardwick one good match at coburg doesn't mean you deserve a callup.
Yeah been in the bests for coburg for a few weeks actually.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/134397/default.aspx
In-Dea-Structible
Matt Dea has only played a handful of games for the Tigers, but if his super-tough effort early in the last quarter is to prove a taste of things to come, he'll become a much-respected figure at Punt Road. Dea's moment of extreme courage came when he ran back with the flight of the ball towards Eagles key forward Jack Darling. Dea kept his eyes on the Sherrin, even as Darling leapt in the air and crashed into him. A gasp went around the crowd as the replays were shown on the big screens, but the Richmond fans were soon on cheering loudly when Dea clambered to his feet and jogged from the field nursing a blood nose. He returned to the action only a couple of minutes later.
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Got stiffed twice by the umps, Weagle creating a shrug high tackle as Clarkson pointed out last week and two eagles falling on his back which pushed him to ground ump called diving on it HTB
But for a 4th round pick that's played 8 games I expect more :banghead
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If nothing else proved himself a Dea-votee to the Tiger cause in that last Qtr
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Saved us a goal with stunning courage.
Can't criticism him after an act like that.
Has a lot of work to do but hats off
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We played with 17 players today
Didn't get a kick says it all
Totally useless
Gifted game
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Kickless
Totally useless
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the lad put his body on the line though ..which for me does show strength of character
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We played with 17 players today
Didn't get a kick says it all
Totally useless
Gifted game
Pathetic post.
If you want to single handedly kill the Coach this is the way to do it.
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He probably shouldn't of put his body on the line actually.the kid has no idea
Foolish act if courage for what ?
You want to see players put there body on the line ?
Watch Cotchin and Tuck, they actually win the ball
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i agree jack none braver than cotch or tucky..but i cant be too critical of dea tonight as anyone who risks their wellbeing for the overall cause has my respect
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Had know idea who he was playing on at times and this cost us. We should have played another tall. Maybe he should be tried as a forward as the Nahas midget show didn't work either.
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you just took taking poo to a whole new level jack.
unbelievable
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We are just seeing the best keyboard sniper in action
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We are just seeing the best keyboard sniper in action
Yep, stop taking pot shots at me.
The kid cant play.
I really feel sorry for guys like Cotchin and Tuck who put there bodies on the line for 100 minutes and get crunched .
OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE
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jack as poor as jackson is ,i thought he also this evening was brave in some of the things he did out there
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McGaune should of played end of story
The match ups or should i say mis matchs were a joke against there talls
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and yet jack we were in it until the last 60 seconds
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McGaune should of played end of story
Nah your wrong he would have stuffed it up a couple of times and gifted them one or two goals
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have you blokes got any idea at all
how can you play a guy in D50 who cant kick and didnt get a kick :banghead
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Pipe down Jackstar.
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I agree with Jackstar. McGuane should have played before Dea.
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have you blokes got any idea at all
how can you play a guy in D50 who cant kick and didnt get a kick :banghead
Weren't you a paid employee of the Richmond FC during its worst on field era in history and actually sacked?
If so, what possible right do you have to fart on this forum let alone volunteer an opinion? :banghead
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I agree with Jackstar. McGuane should have played before Dea.
Fair go, I called it first! Jackstar has plagiarized my post >:(
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We played with 17 players today
Didn't get a kick says it all
Totally useless
Gifted game
Pathetic post.
If you want to single handedly kill the Coach this is the way to do it.
Hope you're talking about Hardwick. I am undecided on Dea.
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McGuane is a hack I would prefer Scott Turner before McGuane
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McGuane is a hack I would prefer Scott Turner before McGuane
So would I but in th grand scheme of things I think McGuane would have been a big help today....
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jack do you think there are many backlines in the league that on current form could match up those tall west coats forwards..Doing a quick run through the comp,i cant find one
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Embarrassing the haters every outing
Dominating VFL, shutting down AFL opponents
Courageous, tough
And only 8 games in
Wait till he starts bringing his VFL game to seniors
Whoa :shh I mean Whoa whoa :shh
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I'm not writing Dea off. However we are in dire need of a small/medium forward, play him forward! How many back flankers do we need ffs?
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jack do you think there are many backlines in the league that on current form could match up those tall west coats forwards..Doing a quick run through the comp,i cant find one
You had to play the extra tall back
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have you blokes got any idea at all
how can you play a guy in D50 who cant kick and didnt get a kick :banghead
Weren't you a paid employee of the Richmond FC during its worst on field era in history and actually sacked?
If so, what possible right do you have to fart on this forum let alone volunteer an opinion? :banghead
We actually had a better winning percentage than we currently have
The game is about winning isn't it
And the clubs worst period of loss during recent years was 1987-1991
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Griff should have played.
That has nothing to do with Diesel
McGuane was not the answer, especially since he has been going Duck up forward recently
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Great game Matty Dea, he bleeds for your tigers :clapping
Anyone that questions this is a moron
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Not doubting the blokes courage for a second but courage alone doesn't win you games of footy and again today he looked totally lost out there when it came to reading the play
Granted I am not a fan because for me there are just far too many question marks over him but when a mate who's one of Dea's biggest fans turns around after the game and says to me he (Dea) looked lost out there and was terrible then I think that says alot
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Yes your mate's opinion is telling
I think it is curtains for the 8 gamer
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Cant believe the 8 gamer was so poot in the context of so many opportunities and faith given
Career over
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He probably shouldn't of put his body on the line actually.the kid has no idea
Foolish act if courage for what ?
For the FACT that it saved a mark 40m out directly in front of goal (and a likely goal) that's what.
Try getting to a game sometime :nope
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Not doubting the blokes courage for a second but courage alone doesn't win you games of footy and again today he looked totally lost out there when it came to reading the play
Granted I am not a fan because for me there are just far too many question marks over him but when a mate who's one of Dea's biggest fans turns around after the game and says to me he (Dea) looked lost out there and was terrible then I think that says alot
I can't believe in today's modern game that you can't actually get a kick.its embarrassing actually.
We basically played with an 5 man defense on the rebound
Amazing actually
Courage doesn't necessary win games of footy either
You want courage
Trent Cotchins middle name is Courage
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He didn't get one kick
End of argument
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He probably shouldn't of put his body on the line actually.the kid has no idea
Foolish act if courage for what ?
You want to see players put there body on the line ?
Watch Cotchin and Tuck, they actually win the ball
That's just a pure troll
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He didn't get one kick
End of argument
neither did presti
or you
LMFAO FACT
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jack i have seen matt play in the magoos several times this year and he really plays well,to the point where you think he can make it.However only time will tell if he can make the jump up.
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potting an 8 gamer
potting him when he puts his body on the line for the club
talk about a weak effort from RFC's biggest ever dud
and you couldnt even dominate the next level down, Dea does
did his job tonight
where's Ekto when you need him :lol
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Yes your mate's opinion is telling
I think it is curtains for the 8 gamer
Should be curtains for the short term, has to develop more inner belief and confidence....it really stood out today that he didn't believe he belonged. Courageous, competes hard but needs to get the ball and use it too, was lost. 5-6 weeks of 20+possies at coburg then bring him back against a poohouse team
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Demonstrated impressive athleticism on a couple of occasions.
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Now i know why WP bags Dea
He helps Coburg win games and lines your pockets
keep bagging him and there could be a spill LMAO
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How many goals did Shuey kick? They ended up moving him at one stage to get away from the beast.
Who were his other opponents?
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Didn't you go Gerks ?
You should now if you went
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Yes your mate's opinion is telling
I think it is curtains for the 8 gamer
Should be curtains for the short term, has to develop more inner belief and confidence....it really stood out today that he didn't believe he belonged. Courageous, competes hard but needs to get the ball and use it too, was lost. 5-6 weeks of 20+possies at coburg then bring him back against a poohouse team
Agreed. Reward him with a guernsey for the GWS game. See how he matches up with kids of similar build age height and development. :thumbsup
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Didn't you go Gerks ?
You should now if you went
Hams got a freebie in the pocket, his second wasn't on Dea
Who else?
How many goals did you see kicked on him Jack?
You were there yeah?
How many kicks did his opponents get? Should be easier to count.
You should know.
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Aisle 46 Row B Gerks
You should of come and say hi.
Was in the victory room after the game for a drink as well
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Now i know why WP bags Dea
He helps Coburg win games and lines your pockets
keep bagging him and there could be a spill LMAO
Lines my pockets :lol :lol
A spill :huh :huh
You really are not up with current events my friend actually you're a long long way off ;)
And if by bag you mean I am critical then yep I suppose I qualify. But I don't think it's bagging but each to their own
Matt Dea again struggled at today at AFL level. I reckon his biggest problem is & continues to be his aboility to read the play, which means he struggles with get to the right spots which means he has few possiessions. Top teams expolit those players that are slow to react to switches in play by using that player in transferring the play; today the Eagles did that through Dea and it can cost you.
Granted Dea gets decent numbers at Coburg like so many other blokes do but when they get up to AFL level they struggle with the pace of the game. Unfortunately Matt Dea is one of those players. Jayden Post gets decent numbers at Coburg too but when he gets up to the AFL he struggles.
I don't care what anyone says but the gap between AFL level and 2nd tier level; whether that is VFL, SANFL or WAFL is massive. Some players are too good for the 2nd tier but not good enough for AFL. I reckon top teams can get away with playing maybe 1 or 2 but other teams cannot
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:ROTFL
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agree WP
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weak as pee gerks.
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That's just hogwash and covenient bagging on an easy target.
An argument could be made that the nature boy Ellis isn't showing enough. I saw him shirk a few contests and be completely out of place today.
But you bag an 8 gamer instead. :nope
This site is a r s e about
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you are
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well can tell you that players that do stupid things get hurt badly, he was lucky today that he never broke his neck
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you are
No you are Cochise.
Did I say Cochise? Sorry I meant Richmond reject
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Was in the victory room after the game for a drink as well
Having a rum n coke with a D grade celeb you met in traffic?
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Now i know why WP bags Dea
He helps Coburg win games and lines your pockets
keep bagging him and there could be a spill LMAO
Lines my pockets :lol :lol
A spill :huh :huh
You really are not up with current events my friend actually you're a long long way off ;)
And if by bag you mean I am critical then yep I suppose I qualify. But I don't think it's bagging but each to their own
Matt Dea again struggled at today at AFL level. I reckon his biggest problem is & continues to be his aboility to read the play, which means he struggles with get to the right spots which means he has few possiessions. Top teams expolit those players that are slow to react to switches in play by using that player in transferring the play; today the Eagles did that through Dea and it can cost you.
Granted Dea gets decent numbers at Coburg like so many other blokes do but when they get up to AFL level they struggle with the pace of the game. Unfortunately Matt Dea is one of those players. Jayden Post gets decent numbers at Coburg too but when he gets up to the AFL he struggles.
I don't care what anyone says but the gap between AFL level and 2nd tier level; whether that is VFL, SANFL or WAFL is massive. Some players are too good for the 2nd tier but not good enough for AFL. I reckon top teams can get away with playing maybe 1 or 2 but other teams cannot
I reckon top teams (and their supporters) give 8 gamers more slack
He reads the game fine at VFL level
Needs more games at the top level, more at a lower level too, simple as that
Another RFC kid shot down before even getting off the mark
:clapping
Can't say i remember you ever spotting a talent and making a positive call on a player early, usually just bash those that are developing. Easy runs there though, so I can see why. :thumbsup
Jockstrap has made a name for himself in the Victory room out of it :lol
How many errors did he make tonight?
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Gerks in brownlow form.
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weak as pee gerks.
just like Dea
should have pulled out of the contest so you didn't have to edit your iPhone tweet from the Victory room :lol
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Gerks
Dont you realize :huh or not heard AFL coaches say, & l quote have heard this as recently as this last week
VFL & AFL is miles apart.
The pace of AFL is so much faster that if you cant see that then you should maybe start watching Manchester United more often ;D
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You're right MOnky
I actually wanted Dea delisted after 1 game because he hadnt picked up the pace
Kids these days should be better than that, especially after 6 years in the twos...
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I reckon top teams (and their supporters) give 8 gamers more slack
He reads the game fine at VFL level
Needs more games at the top level, more at a lower level too, simple as that
Yes he reads the game fine at VFL - I agree with you but today it was AFL level today and he again struggled.
I also agree he needs more time at VFL level I don't actually think he's played that much VFL when you think about it - he hardly played last year because he was injured and then when he did they basically rushed him back and the season before he was injured as well .... so maybe mroe time learning the game is what he needs... seeing he came from a basketball background
Can't say i remember you ever spotting a talent and making a positive call on a player early, usually just bash those that are developing. Easy runs there though, so I can see why. :thumbsup
Hmmm .... let me see Conca, Batchelor, Reiwoldt, Vickery .. oh and there was a some bloke called Rance that alot of people potted until last year and I backed him from the start so yep I reckon all I've done is bash them all over the years
Edited: remembered a few more ;D
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Disclaimer: Not a Dea fan. Also didn't go to the game. I normally go with my dad but he spent the day at the hospital since his missus is pretty crook.
Before the game, Cometti I think it was, commented that this was probably the best side we've fielded all year and my first reaction was :wallywink . I started to agree by the end. I know the time of gifting games to blokes has gone, but I wouldn't mind seeing Dea with a few more games pumped into him while the side is playing better than last year and the backline is showing a little more cohesion and solidarity. He didn't get a touch and I think his first two or three involvements were giving away frees, but he isn't afraid to chuck his body on the line, could probably play slightly taller than he is, but it looks like it unleashes Ellis who appears more natural up the ground and Batchelor looked far more comfortable clunking grabs and setting up rebounds.
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I've looked and looked at Dea play and still can't see why the club like him so
much. Why they gave him number 7 I have no idea.
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He needs at.least.a.few games in a row before he can be judged.
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I've looked and looked at Dea play and still can't see why the club like him so
much. Why they gave him number 7 I have no idea.
Correct
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Cometti's commentary was atrocious. Taped the game. He was dreadfully biased. I agree with comments Ellis appears more natural up the ground and Batchelor looked far more comfortable clunking grabs and setting up rebounds. Batch after a slow start played a good game when back. The jury is still out on Dea but his courage in the last quarter was sensational. Saved a certain goal.
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Didn't you go Gerks ?
You should now if you went
Hams got a freebie in the pocket, his second wasn't on Dea
Who else?
How many goals did you see kicked on him Jack?
You were there yeah?
How many kicks did his opponents get? Should be easier to count.
You should know.
Aisle 46 Row B Gerks
You should of come and say hi.
Was in the victory room after the game for a drink as well
why dont you answer the football question jackie jackie.
how did dea's opponents go for the day?
happy for anyone who attended the game to answer the question as i would like to know.
who did he play on?
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Pick him again next week.
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How many goals did Shuey kick? They ended up moving him at one stage to get away from the beast.
Who were his other opponents?
Played on Hill
Hill kicked 3 goals
Hams first goal was a result of a head high tackle from Dea
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All first rounders, WP. Not sticking you're neck out too much there. And everyone loved Riewoldt and Conca from the start ;D
Bring back Gourdis
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Funny thing elite sport, or any level really for that matter.
Some that seem to have everything going for them, right up until the big moment when it all goes down the toilet.
Others that struggle are unco and poor trainers get a crack and excell - Go figure ....et al one Richie Tambling.
I'd give D a couple more goes but I would say if by 20 odd games you have shown nothing, well it has proven a waste of time in the past hey.
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Robbo would give Dea another game based on his courage alone ...
6. Courage
Could list hundreds of examples, but Richmond's Matt Dea was the standout. He wakes this morning with two handballs to his name and perhaps a raging headache. In a tantalising and tough final quarter, Dea backed into the black hole and was cannoned into by Jack Darling, who, let's be honest, flies for the ball like it's his last. Dea didn't take a short one, Darling was taking long ones and BOOM. Dea has played eight games of footy and on that effort, he'll soon enough be playing his ninth.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/expert-opinion/just-too-hard-for-hawks/story-fn5937w8-1226342114993
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How many goals did Shuey kick? They ended up moving him at one stage to get away from the beast.
Who were his other opponents?
Played on Hill
Hill kicked 3 goals
Hams first goal was a result of a head high tackle from Dea
Dea was on Hill for his 1st goal - was goalside of his opponent at the stoppage where he should be, Foley won the ball and handballed it straight to Hill who snapped
Houli his 2nd - Hill outbodied him easily in a 1-1 marking contest
Rance his 3rd – holding free kick to Hill
so try again
Hams 1st was the result of lifting his arm and shrugging the shoulders, high free kick, same free kicks the Eagles did the Hawks over with last week, meh
You sure you watched the replay twice?
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going ot, the houli incident highlights a trend that i feel is wrong in defending, and that is concentrating too much on the opponent rather than the ball.
houli got to the contest too early. if you think of the good spoilers over the years they would have come in later and jumped over hill, who was basically a sitting duck, and punched the ball away. its all about timing.
watch how often defenders get caught out of position because they are watching their opponent rather than ball. sometimes you just have to back your judgement and ability to beat your opponent in the contest.
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going ot, the houli incident highlights a trend that i feel is wrong in defending, and that is concentrating too much on the opponent rather than the ball.
houli got to the contest too early. if you think of the good spoilers over the years they would have come in later and jumped over hill, who was basically a sitting duck, and punched the ball away. its all about timing.
watch how often defenders get caught out of position because they are watching their opponent rather than ball. sometimes you just have to back your judgement and ability to beat your opponent in the contest.
spot on al case in point Laidler on Vickery rnd 1. Doesnt go body on body much, times it to the contest beautifully
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All first rounders, WP. Not sticking you're neck out too much there. And everyone loved Riewoldt and Conca from the start ;D
Bring back Gourdis
"Loved Conca fromt he start" you are kidding coach. A lot on here had major concerns about young Reece
Ditto poor Jack, after he won the Coleman was when alot jumped on board
And BTW does this "gotta give time to develop, gotta give them more games" apply to every player?
Example: How many games did Nason play? Was he given enough time? How many games do you give them? Less than 20, more than 20? what is the criteria
Now before people start a "whacking" I am simply asking the question. People are saying after 8 games Dea hasn't been given enough time, Nason played less than 25 was he given enough time?
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Dea has had 8 games too many
Has no idea at AFL level and can't get a kick
Enough is enough
At least guys like Webberley can get a kick
Dea can't
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How many goals did Shuey kick? They ended up moving him at one stage to get away from the beast.
Who were his other opponents?
Played on Hill
Hill kicked 3 goals
Hams first goal was a result of a head high tackle from Dea
Dea was on Hill for his 1st goal - was goalside of his opponent at the stoppage where he should be, Foley won the ball and handballed it straight to Hill who snapped
Houli his 2nd - Hill outbodied him easily in a 1-1 marking contest
Rance his 3rd – holding free kick to Hill
so try again
Hams 1st was the result of lifting his arm and shrugging the shoulders, high free kick, same free kicks the Eagles did the Hawks over with last week, meh
You sure you watched the replay twice?
Nice work Gerks. :thumbsup
Dea will be one of the first names Dimma will pencil in this week I reckon. Can't teach or buy that sort of commitment to the contest. Kid's a keeper
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Dea has had 8 games too many
Has no idea at AFL level and can't get a kick
Enough is enough
At least guys like Webberley can get a kick
Dea can't
No worries Jack :lol
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Dea has had 8 games too many
Has no idea at AFL level and can't get a kick
Enough is enough
At least guys like Webberley can get a kick
Dea can't
No worries Jack :lol
:lol :lol
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All first rounders, WP. Not sticking you're neck out too much there. And everyone loved Riewoldt and Conca from the start ;D
Bring back Gourdis
"Loved Conca fromt he start" you are kidding coach. A lot on here had major concerns about young Reece
Ditto poor Jack, after he won the Coleman was when alot jumped on board
And BTW does this "gotta give time to develop, gotta give them more games" apply to every player?
Example: How many games did Nason play? Was he given enough time? How many games do you give them? Less than 20, more than 20? what is the criteria
Now before people start a "whacking" I am simply asking the question. People are saying after 8 games Dea hasn't been given enough time, Nason played less than 25 was he given enough time?
The only thing with the Nason analogy, WP, is that he was drafted as a mature age player. I guess, physically at least, he had developed.
Having said that i agree that some players seem to get longer to develop than others. What is the criteria for the amount of time allowed to develop? It must be different for each individual and i think this is what you are saying!?
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All first rounders, WP. Not sticking you're neck out too much there. And everyone loved Riewoldt and Conca from the start ;D
Bring back Gourdis
"Loved Conca fromt he start" you are kidding coach. A lot on here had major concerns about young Reece
Ditto poor Jack, after he won the Coleman was when alot jumped on board
And BTW does this "gotta give time to develop, gotta give them more games" apply to every player?
Example: How many games did Nason play? Was he given enough time? How many games do you give them? Less than 20, more than 20? what is the criteria
Now before people start a "whacking" I am simply asking the question. People are saying after 8 games Dea hasn't been given enough time, Nason played less than 25 was he given enough time?
Ah, forgot I was on OER for a minute. I think most Richmond fans were on the Concatruck from the start. Back when I posted on Y&B Riewoldt was one of the more popular players. Everyone called for him to get more games in 07 and 08. Not sure what was being said about him here in those years, but surely he had a lot of support still? Just because a couple whack players 20 times a week doesn't mean they're not popular with most supporters.
Nason was given too many. He's a SANFL player at best, IMO. Debuted at 21, didn't he? You expect draftees of that age to be able to come in and contribute. Nason played some decent games but that was it. Only cost us pick 68 though so it doesn't really matter.
Dea is still young and needs more time. Dunno if he will make it, have doubts. Shows some good signs but really needs to clean up his disposal and decision making. We'll know more by the end of 2013
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The Dice Man loves a kid with heart like Dea.
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How many goals did Shuey kick? They ended up moving him at one stage to get away from the beast.
Who were his other opponents?
Played on Hill
Hill kicked 3 goals
Hams first goal was a result of a head high tackle from Dea
:lol Lawl you really have no idea
Stop embarrassing yourself
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The Dice Man loves a kid with heart like Dea.
The Dice Man loves rolling a lucky 7. It's his fav number
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All first rounders, WP. Not sticking you're neck out too much there. And everyone loved Riewoldt and Conca from the start ;D
Bring back Gourdis
"Loved Conca fromt he start" you are kidding coach. A lot on here had major concerns about young Reece
Ditto poor Jack, after he won the Coleman was when alot jumped on board
And BTW does this "gotta give time to develop, gotta give them more games" apply to every player?
Example: How many games did Nason play? Was he given enough time? How many games do you give them? Less than 20, more than 20? what is the criteria
Now before people start a "whacking" I am simply asking the question. People are saying after 8 games Dea hasn't been given enough time, Nason played less than 25 was he given enough time?
The only thing with the Nason analogy, WP, is that he was drafted as a mature age player. I guess, physically at least, he had developed.
Having said that i agree that some players seem to get longer to develop than others. What is the criteria for the amount of time allowed to develop? It must be different for each individual and i think this is what you are saying!?
Has to be different for every player, but you'd think it'd be more than 8 ;D
Thing with Dea is he's a project player from a basketball background. Whether we should be drafting projects from other sports is entirely another debate, but he's here now.
He's gone from spudding it up with 2 touches a game at VFL level to being able to compete to being named in the bests. Clear progression and development. After how many games at that level?
He still can't get a kick at AFL level, but defensively he did his job. Let's see if his game grows like it has the level down with some more time, development and confidence. You say he looks lost, he trains with RFC, plays with Coburg. Will take some games to settle. Probably don't need to give him 6+ years like some though....
Only at RFC does an 8 gamer generate such debate :lol
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All first rounders, WP. Not sticking you're neck out too much there. And everyone loved Riewoldt and Conca from the start ;D
Bring back Gourdis
"Loved Conca fromt he start" you are kidding coach. A lot on here had major concerns about young Reece
Ditto poor Jack, after he won the Coleman was when alot jumped on board
And BTW does this "gotta give time to develop, gotta give them more games" apply to every player?
Example: How many games did Nason play? Was he given enough time? How many games do you give them? Less than 20, more than 20? what is the criteria
Now before people start a "whacking" I am simply asking the question. People are saying after 8 games Dea hasn't been given enough time, Nason played less than 25 was he given enough time?
The only thing with the Nason analogy, WP, is that he was drafted as a mature age player. I guess, physically at least, he had developed.
Having said that i agree that some players seem to get longer to develop than others. What is the criteria for the amount of time allowed to develop? It must be different for each individual and i think this is what you are saying!?
Has to be different for every player, but you'd think it'd be more than 8 ;D
Thing with Dea is he's a project player from a basketball background. Whether we should be drafting projects from other sports is entirely another debate, but he's here now.
He's gone from spudding it up with 2 touches a game at VFL level to being able to compete to being named in the bests. Clear progression and development. After how many games at that level?
He still can't get a kick at AFL level, but defensively he did his job. Let's see if his game grows like it has the level down with some more time, development and confidence. You say he looks lost, he trains with RFC, plays with Coburg. Will take some games to settle. Probably don't need to give him 6+ years like some though....
Only at RFC does an 8 gamer generate such debate :lol
Every club has these types of players on their list. I don't troll through opposition forums, i wonder they carry on as much as we do?
Me personally, i seen him do something yesterday that many before him in the previous 30 years have failed to do and that is show courage and bleed for the club when not impacting the stats sheets heavily. I am not saying that others haven't done what he has but at least he shown he is not willing to accept an easy paycheck.
Good for him regardless of how much talent he has.
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Having said that i agree that some players seem to get longer to develop than others. What is the criteria for the amount of time allowed to develop? It must be different for each individual and i think this is what you are saying!?
Yep that's what I am saying. There seems to be different rules for different blokes? Why?
When it's all said and done it comes down to how much time do you give them? Do you base it on years on the list? Number of games? Anything else?
I used Nason because I knew someone would say he was picked as mature aged player but it still highlights the massive gap between 2nd tier and the AFL. Seems to be you come from the under age comps yuo'll be given more time and that's fair enough but agqain how long do you give them and what do they have to show in that time.
Another good example is JON - he played a handful a games (less than 20) but most people thought early on that he wasn't going to make it, so people called for him to be de-listed. Why are people not allowed to raise the same questions about Dea? What's the difference?
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Difference is Dea is improving. He has also been playing footy for a short amount of time
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Dea has had 8 games too many
Has no idea at AFL level and can't get a kick
Enough is enough
At least guys like Webberley can get a kick
Dea can't
No worries Jack :lol
:lol :lol
Lawl
Do you think Jack-star has an agenda against Dea because the club recognizes the qualities in Dea that Jack-star knows he himself doesn't have? Commitment, courage, integrity, the ability to self-reason?
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:lol
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Good point Gerks and Davey are making about showing improvement. It was pretty obvious that JON was a spud early on. Rancey has shown that decision making and disposal can be improved with hard work. At the very least Dea has size, athleticism and courage. not bad building blocks.
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Difference is Dea is improving. He has also been playing footy for a short amount of time
You would have to be joking
he doesnt kick the ball. How many kickless games has he had ?
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Dea has had 8 games too many
Has no idea at AFL level and can't get a kick
Enough is enough
At least guys like Webberley can get a kick
Dea can't
No worries Jacktard :lol
:lol :lol
Lawl
Do you think Jack-star has an agenda against Dea because the club recognizes the qualities in Dea that Jack-star knows he himself doesn't have? Commitment, courage, integrity, the ability to self-reason?
what qualities and what ability :lol :lol :lol
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Difference is Dea is improving. He has also been playing footy for a short amount of time
You would have to be joking
he doesnt kick the ball. How many kickless games has he had ?
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
WGAF. What did his opponent do on the w/e?
stuff me, you're the bloke who said Luke McGuane was the next Wayne Carey. Why should we listen to you?
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Dea has had 8 games too many
Has no idea at AFL level and can't get a kick
Enough is enough
At least guys like Webberley can get a kick
Dea can't
No worries Jack :lol
:lol :lol
Lawl
Do you think Jank-star has an agenda against Dea because the club recognizes the qualities in Dea that Jank-star knows he himself doesn't have? Commitment, courage, integrity, the ability to self-reason?
what qualities and what ability :lol :lol :lol
Good stuff jackie :clapping. self analysis is an important part of self improvement, as is the ability to laugh at youself
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Difference is Dea is improving. He has also been playing footy for a short amount of time
You would have to be joking
he doesnt kick the ball. How many kickless games has he had ?
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
WGAF. What did his opponent do on the w/e?
stuff me, you're the bloke who said Luke McGuane was the next Wayne Carey. Why should we listen to you?
Now Now.
You find the quote where I said that Luke would be the next Wayne Carey?
You cant
All I said that I seen Luke play at Broadbeach at CHF annd was outstanding and the club should look at him playing forward
Thats why they recruited him the first play you will find ;)
Now as for M Dea.
West Coasts first 2 goals come from Deas mistakes.
By memory , head high tackle and standing wrong side of Hill .
YOU CANT PLAY PLAYERS WHO DONT GET A KICK
GET OVER IT
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Well Hardwick is playing him so get over it or do something about it. :lol
You said McGuane was going to be better than Wayne Carey.
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Having said that i agree that some players seem to get longer to develop than others. What is the criteria for the amount of time allowed to develop? It must be different for each individual and i think this is what you are saying!?
Yep that's what I am saying. There seems to be different rules for different blokes? Why?
When it's all said and done it comes down to how much time do you give them? Do you base it on years on the list? Number of games? Anything else?
I used Nason because I knew someone would say he was picked as mature aged player but it still highlights the massive gap between 2nd tier and the AFL. Seems to be you come from the under age comps yuo'll be given more time and that's fair enough but agqain how long do you give them and what do they have to show in that time.
Another good example is JON - he played a handful a games (less than 20) but most people thought early on that he wasn't going to make it, so people called for him to be de-listed. Why are people not allowed to raise the same questions about Dea? What's the difference?
I actually sit on the fence when it comes to Dea. I have no strong thoughts either way, either he gets delisted or stays, i don't really care. He didn't cost us much.I like to see all kids make it but that is fantasy.
However, when it comes to some players, i think some posters already had their mind made up before they played their first game. I am not putting you in this bracket, WP, except when it comes to Postie :lol
Even though i disagree with Jackstar on many things he says, i don't think he should be called JackTard or Jankstar as some have purely because his opinion is not agreed with. It is rather rude to both Jack and people with a disability
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Well Hardwick is playing him so get over it or do something about it. :lol
You said McGuane was going to be better than Wayne Carey.
never ever said that .
You blokes post things to suit yourself
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Difference is Dea is improving. He has also been playing footy for a short amount of time
You would have to be joking
he doesnt kick the ball. How many kickless games has he had ?
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
WGAF. What did his opponent do on the w/e?
stuff me, you're the bloke who said Luke McGuane was the next Wayne Carey. Why should we listen to you?
Now Now.
You find the quote where I said that Luke would be the next Wayne Carey?
You cant
All I said that I seen Luke play at Broadbeach at CHF annd was outstanding and the club should look at him playing forward
Thats why they recruited him the first play you will find ;)
Now as for M Dea.
West Coasts first 2 goals come from Deas mistakes.
By memory , head high tackle and standing wrong side of Hill .
YOU CANT PLAY PLAYERS WHO DONT GET A KICK
GET OVER IT
Last Player you had a major fixation with was Rance, how's that working for you now??
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Well Hardwick is playing him so get over it or do something about it. :lol
You said McGuane was going to be better than Wayne Carey.
never ever said that .
You blokes post things to suit yourself
As do you. Never read so much poo in my life when it comes to you talking about people you don't rate. "Jay Schulz is a dill. Almost cost us another sponsor because he wasn't using a motorola phone :banghead :banghead "
:lol
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Difference is Dea is improving. He has also been playing footy for a short amount of time
You would have to be joking
he doesnt kick the ball. How many kickless games has he had ?
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Luke was also playing ruck in qld
Big whoop
WGAF. What did his opponent do on the w/e?
stuff me, you're the bloke who said Luke McGuane was the next Wayne Carey. Why should we listen to you?
Now Now.
You find the quote where I said that Luke would be the next Wayne Carey?
You cant
All I said that I seen Luke play at Broadbeach at CHF annd was outstanding and the club should look at him playing forward
Thats why they recruited him the first play you will find ;)
Now as for M Dea.
West Coasts first 2 goals come from Deas mistakes.
By memory , head high tackle and standing wrong side of Hill .
YOU CANT PLAY PLAYERS WHO DONT GET A KICK
GET OVER IT
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Having said that i agree that some players seem to get longer to develop than others. What is the criteria for the amount of time allowed to develop? It must be different for each individual and i think this is what you are saying!?
Yep that's what I am saying. There seems to be different rules for different blokes? Why?
When it's all said and done it comes down to how much time do you give them? Do you base it on years on the list? Number of games? Anything else?
I used Nason because I knew someone would say he was picked as mature aged player but it still highlights the massive gap between 2nd tier and the AFL. Seems to be you come from the under age comps yuo'll be given more time and that's fair enough but agqain how long do you give them and what do they have to show in that time.
Another good example is JON - he played a handful a games (less than 20) but most people thought early on that he wasn't going to make it, so people called for him to be de-listed. Why are people not allowed to raise the same questions about Dea? What's the difference?
In my opinion JON was never going to make it.
Was amazed that we drafted Pattison, never ever going to be any good
I also thought that Richard Tambling was going to be a star.He dominated in his age group and was a standout. Big bodies have really fixed Richard up good and proper, he is really struggling at Sturt at the moment
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Well Hardwick is playing him so get over it or do something about it. :lol
You said McGuane was going to be better than Wayne Carey.
never ever said that .
You blokes post things to suit yourself
As do you. Never read so much poo in my life when it comes to you talking about people you don't rate. "Jay Schulz is a dill. Almost cost us another sponsor because he wasn't using a motorola phone :banghead :banghead "
:lol
That is correct
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Having said that i agree that some players seem to get longer to develop than others. What is the criteria for the amount of time allowed to develop? It must be different for each individual and i think this is what you are saying!?
Yep that's what I am saying. There seems to be different rules for different blokes? Why?
When it's all said and done it comes down to how much time do you give them? Do you base it on years on the list? Number of games? Anything else?
I used Nason because I knew someone would say he was picked as mature aged player but it still highlights the massive gap between 2nd tier and the AFL. Seems to be you come from the under age comps yuo'll be given more time and that's fair enough but agqain how long do you give them and what do they have to show in that time.
Another good example is JON - he played a handful a games (less than 20) but most people thought early on that he wasn't going to make it, so people called for him to be de-listed. Why are people not allowed to raise the same questions about Dea? What's the difference?
In my opinion JON was never going to make it.
Was amazed that we drafted Pattison, never ever going to be any good
I also thought that Richard Tambling was going to be a star.He dominated in his age group and was a standout. Big bodies have really fixed Richard up good and proper, he is really struggling at Sturt at the moment
Fact remains that we had neither the facilities or money to fuly develop these blokes.
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Well Hardwick is playing him so get over it or do something about it. :lol
You said McGuane was going to be better than Wayne Carey.
never ever said that .
You blokes post things to suit yourself
As do you. Never read so much poo in my life when it comes to you talking about people you don't rate. "Jay Schulz is a dill. Almost cost us another sponsor because he wasn't using a motorola phone :banghead :banghead "
:lol
That is correct
How did it avoid the press? "Jay Schulz costs Richmond another sponsor for using his nokia instead of the motorola the club gave him"
:lol
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Hams ducked ala joel selwood. Faggy.playing for yhe free kick
Hardley deas fsult.
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Hams ducked ala joel selwood. limpgy.playing for yhe free kick
Hardley deas fsult.
What the stuff do you type with?
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Can anyone tell me if Dea is of eligible age and games for this years Rising Star comp? If so, good chance for a nomination this week :pray
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Difference is Dea is improving. He has also been playing footy for a short amount of time
You would have to be joking
he doesnt kick the ball. How many kickless games has he had ?
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
WGAF. What did his opponent do on the w/e?
stuff me, you're the bloke who said Luke McGuane was the next Wayne Carey. Why should we listen to you?
Now Now.
You find the quote where I said that Luke would be the next Wayne Carey?
You cant
All I said that I seen Luke play at Broadbeach at CHF annd was outstanding and the club should look at him playing forward
Thats why they recruited him the first play you will find ;)
Now as for M Dea.
West Coasts first 2 goals come from Deas mistakes.
By memory , head high tackle and standing wrong side of Hill .
YOU CANT PLAY PLAYERS WHO DONT GET A KICK
GET OVER IT
Last Player you had a major fixation with was Rance, how's that working for you now??
:lol Just like with jack, he'll wait for a form slump and start laying in the boots again
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:lol Just like with jack, he'll wait for a form slump and start laying in the boots again
Don't worrie, he hasn't missed Conca (To small apparently) or Helbig either.......
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Hams ducked ala joel selwood. limpgy.playing for yhe free kick
Hardley deas fsult.
What the stuff do you type with?
:rollin
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:lol Just like with jack, he'll wait for a form slump and start laying in the boots again
Don't worrie, he hasn't missed Conca (To small apparently) or Helbig either.......
Love Helbig and Conca you fools
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:lol Just like with jack, he'll wait for a form slump and start laying in the boots again
Don't worrie, he hasn't missed Conca (To small apparently) or Helbig either.......
Love Helbig and Conca you fools
how about Rance ? remember what you were dribbling about him ad nauseum?
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Yes
I bagged Rance
He was horrible although he was getting the ball and making mistakes
This bloke can even win the ball
To Rances credit .he has done extremely well
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However, when it comes to some players, i think some posters already had their mind made up before they played their first game. I am not putting you in this bracket, WP, except when it comes to Postie :lol
Actually first AFL I saw Post play I thought we might of got a good one here but a few games later was thinking "I was wrong"
Even though i disagree with Jackstar on many things he says, i don't think he should be called JackTard or Jankstar as some have purely because his opinion is not agreed with. It is rather rude to both Jack and people with a disability
Exactly! And BTW it is actually just as offensive to people who have family members with a disability especially kowing what they face on a day to day basis; hence why I've just edited all the posts :banghead :banghead
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:banghead :banghead
Snip & edit
Enough with the petty name calling
Said it before don't agree with someone debate the issue without resorting to the name calling
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Can anyone tell me if Dea is of eligible age and games for this years Rising Star comp? If so, good chance for a nomination this week :pray
Bump >:(
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Hams ducked ala joel selwood. limpgy.playing for yhe free kick
Hardley deas fsult.
What the stuff do you type with?
Lettuce
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And BTW, I created this thread for positive comments only on Dea. If you don't like the concept, post elsewhere please.
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:lol
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West Coasts first 2 goals come from Deas mistakes.
By memory , head high tackle and standing wrong side of Hill
Goalside is the wrong side? Game over, you have NFI proven once and for all.
And from memory? You were there and watched it twice. 3 looks and you still can't get it right FACT
:lol
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I'm sure i recall jackie jackie criticising players in the past for not standing goalside. said something about how it is basic football..........
not sure what to make of this all this....
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:shh
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WP posts something and it's obvious you blokes don't read and understand.you still slag me
An going back to Punt Road end
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WP posts something and it's obvious you blokes don't read and understand.you still slag me
An going back to Punt Road end
Jackstar returns to PRE?
:bow
8 years since his original ban
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I'm sure i recall jackie jackie criticising players in the past for not standing goalside. said something about how it is basic football..........
not sure what to make of this all this....
Al, are you saying he is making stuff up to push his agenda......... I cant believe it
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Been 8 years? Actually 9
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Been 8 years? Actually 9
been a long time. will Rosy welcome you back?
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:lol Just like with jack, he'll wait for a form slump and start laying in the boots again
Don't worrie, he hasn't missed Conca (To small apparently) or Helbig either.......
Love Helbig and Conca you fools
Oh really??
Helbig 9 possesions
4 have been straight to the opposition , lace up ::) ::)
I flicked over and watched Dea, Gordis and co at Coburg, mmmmmmmm
and dont get too carried away by Conca and co.
They got flogged by the gold coast youngsters today.
Helbig, mmmmmmmmmmm
Conca, now there is an interesting topic.
Overated and went before Heppell ::)
Is too small!
we have made some really bad decisions in regards to recruits which the club just sweep under the table.We continue to recruit smaller type players etc etc Farmer, Nahas, Webberley, Conca, etc.
we refuse to play bigger bodied players such as Tuck
am over the Club emails ,telephone messages and all the spin, am over it.
Yep, Conca spent alot of time playing twos last years as well ::)
Mate at the draft last years said Heppell was a stand out
Yep, Conca spent alot of time playing twos last years as well ::)
Mate at the draft last years said Heppell was a stand out
There is a common pattern developing in most of your posts, its called having NFI.....At some point mate you really need to get over your hatred for the club ;D
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i'm getting dizzy reading this thread..time for another martini
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Can anyone tell me if Dea is of eligible age and games for this years Rising Star comp? If so, good chance for a nomination this week :pray
Bump >:(
Eligible
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i'm getting dizzy reading this thread..time for another martini
Time for two martinis each. One to celebrate Gerks excellent and flawless research, and one to celebrate Dea's impending rising star nomination :cheers :cheers
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:lol Just like with jack, he'll wait for a form slump and start laying in the boots again
Don't worrie, he hasn't missed Conca (To small apparently) or Helbig either.......
Love Helbig and Conca you fools
Oh really??
Helbig 9 possesions
4 have been straight to the opposition , lace up ::) ::)
I flicked over and watched Dea, Gordis and co at Coburg, mmmmmmmm
and dont get too carried away by Conca and co.
They got flogged by the gold coast youngsters today.
Helbig, mmmmmmmmmmm
Conca, now there is an interesting topic.
Overated and went before Heppell ::)
Is too small!
we have made some really bad decisions in regards to recruits which the club just sweep under the table.We continue to recruit smaller type players etc etc Farmer, Nahas, Webberley, Conca, etc.
we refuse to play bigger bodied players such as Tuck
am over the Club emails ,telephone messages and all the spin, am over it.
Yep, Conca spent alot of time playing twos last years as well ::)
Mate at the draft last years said Heppell was a stand out
Yep, Conca spent alot of time playing twos last years as well ::)
Mate at the draft last years said Heppell was a stand out
There is a common pattern developing in most of your posts, its called having NFI.....At some point mate you really need to get over your hatred for the club ;D
Love the club
If these players were superstars.we would be playing finals
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By the way.Conca has improved out of sight this year
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lol :lol There second year players that you wrote off in there first year ya nit wit :lol
Maybe if you gave them time to become superstars it may actually happen! ;)
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lol jack i think his brain has a bit of catching up to do,judging by some of his decisions last week....yes yes i know he is young
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By the way.Conca has improved out of sight this year
Thats generally what happens if your given a chance ;) How is McGuane going BTW? I never did get around to looking at those Broadbeach tapes :lol :lol
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Broadbeach LMAO
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What's funny is the club signed him up on a 3 year contract reportedly on $450k this year
Joke between players is that he is the highest paid Coburg player of all time
Dimma has given him the same treatment as Tuck early last year .
McGaune been told not in Tigers future
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comments from grimes are interesting;
"and thankfully we had matty dea come back and have an inpact on the (West coast) talls as well, so it really helped us out"
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/444772/default.aspx
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comments from grimes are interesting;
"and thankfully we had matty dea come back and have an inpact on the (West coast) talls as well, so it really helped us out"
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/444772/default.aspx
Whoa!! :lol
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WP,
Too much BS to wade through to find your post on why time is being invested in Matt Dea and not others.
Just based on what has been seen and heard and what I have personally seen:
- Dea has the body size and shape that is perfect for Dimma's gameplan. Dea's got very fast reflexes, sure hands and very quick hands. (BBall point gaurd, but watch him at training, his hands are good and very sure. A one grab catch.) He's strong. And he is freakishly athletic. He has a standing vertical leap better than anyone else at the club. And he is getting into the foolishly fearless mould. Dimma seems to really rate and love that. He has limitatons. But he also comes across as very single minded and very focussed, and thus does a job, plays a role. This again seems to be a trait that Dimma wants in x players per weekend.
Your example was Nason. I'd respond with 14 games, body size, lack of stickability on tackles and possibly playing to his designated role/job. Webberley plays to the role given. White the same. It was apparent a few times last year, at Coburg, that Nason didn't play to team rules.
As to his role on Sunday. It appears that he rotated on Hams and Shuey and basically shut them down. If anyone can show that is not what he did, please provide the details. Al's been asking for 24 hours. No one has answered it.
Oh and JS that first goal by Hams was a little unlucky. Hams led with a dipping twisting shoulder to draw the high tackle. WC did it all day and and got lots of soft frees for it. Lead with the head (Dusty and Foley) no free, lead with the shoulder, twist and dip, Free. Go figure.
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Majority of your points have been well covered in this thread HK, it's worth the read
Still, thanks for the summary
And before JS points out Hams kicked 2, the second was on Ellis
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And before JS points out Hams kicked 2, the second was on Ellis
Why let the truth get in the way of a good story??
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And before JS points out Hams kicked 2, the second was on Ellis
Why let the truth get in the way of a good story??
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/053/554/1275271763948.png)
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Scary gerks. You and I seem to like the same player.
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Now Now.
You find the quote where I said that I liked Dea?
You can't
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Hams ducked ala joel selwood. limpgy.playing for yhe free kick
Hardley deas fsult.
What the stuff do you type with?
Lettuce
Me too ! iths aweousum fung
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I like Dea. But only as a friend.
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Your example was Nason. I'd respond with 14 games, body size, lack of stickability on tackles and possibly playing to his designated role/job. Webberley plays to the role given. White the same. It was apparent a few times last year, at Coburg, that Nason didn't play to team rules.
"He didn't play to team rules" don't mean to be a smart alec but how would you know that? How would any of us know that?
But that's a discussion for another day ;D
I am not sure if you've actually understood my point; perhaps because I haven't really explained it too well
Back to the Nason example he was given 14 games over 2 seasons & people on here made their judgement on him pretty quicky - which is fair enough.
But very few people said at the time he was de-listed he should be given more time, it seemed to simply be a case of "he's not up to it so see ya". Why? Why was it OK in the case of Nason for people to raise the point that he may not be up to it after say 10 games but people cannot do the same for Dea?
Why the difference in assessing?
Just based on what has been seen and heard and what I have personally seen:
- Dea has the body size and shape that is perfect for Dimma's gameplan. Dea's got very fast reflexes, sure hands and very quick hands. (BBall point gaurd, but watch him at training, his hands are good and very sure. A one grab catch.) He's strong. And he is freakishly athletic. He has a standing vertical leap better than anyone else at the club. And he is getting into the foolishly fearless mould. Dimma seems to really rate and love that. He has limitatons. But he also comes across as very single minded and very focussed, and thus does a job, plays a role. This again seems to be a trait that Dimma wants in x players per weekend.
Not sure based on what I've seen that I can agree with the sure hands and quick hands comment certainly when you are talking about AFL level, have seen it at times at VFL level but not at AFL level.
Also I've learnt over the years that what happens on the training track doesn't always translates into what they take on to the park. I've lost count of the number of players who at training never miss a target but put them out on the ground and they rarely hit a target ;D
Seriously I hope he makes it especially seeing they seem determined to invest a helluva alot of time into him.
But right now I am not seeing what you and others are seeing which mean I have question marks. Which I raise hopefully with balanced argument which leads to robust discussion
So as it stands it doesn't mean I am right or wrong just like it doesn't mean people who disagree with me a re right or wrong it just is a difference in opinion that hopefully by the end of the this year but most likely the end of 2013 we'll have an answer one way or another
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LMAO@Fung :lol
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Dea is worth keeping on his courage 8)
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"He didn't play to team rules" don't mean to be a smart alec but how would you know that? How would any of us know that?
I believe the answer to that question is always ;)
Very entertaining thread, Jackstar you should post on Y and B sometime.
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WP,
I made a couple of Coburg games last year and saw and heard the coaches address Ben on him not playing his ordained role. Sorry that's not playing to the team rules. When an RFC coach tells him that, I'll accept it as the definition.
On Matt's hands. There's a couple of drills that the players do where the players with excellent hands stand out. Trent and Jack are stars at this. Matt is not at Trent's level, but he does better at this one particular drill than a fair few in the current first 18.
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I made a couple of Coburg games last year and saw and heard the coaches address Ben on him not playing his ordained role. Sorry that's not playing to the team rules. When an RFC coach tells him that, I'll accept it as the definition.
Fair enough - I was just asking the question.
Though at a Coburg game if it's a RFC coach telling him that to me that's can be concern as well because it should be the Coburg coaches who are telling him if he is playing to team rules.
Seriously I remember once when Andy Collins was coaching he went up to a RFC player at qtr time prasied him up about the way he was playing and then David King came over to the same player while Collins was addressing the whole team no less and told him he wasn't doing what he was supposed to be doing from a RFC perspective... would argue that the Coburg coach is the one who determines if a player is playing by the teams rules .... no wonder the kid was goneski at seasons end
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Billy, you ask whats the difference, and someone has already answered and that is the level of improvement. Nason stagnated after being gifted games due to the philosophy at the time. he shoed some improvement in his first year, but not much. in is second year he spent the whole year at coburg, with how many times being named in the best? by the time he was cut it was pretty much as good as you get from ben
dea has improved his output at coburg to the point where he has nullified some rated opponents, and more recently racked up some high posession games and being named in the best. he is still improving
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Fair point WP. And yes that may have added to Ben's challenges.
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WP,
Too much BS to wade through to find your post on why time is being invested in Matt Dea and not others.
Just based on what has been seen and heard and what I have personally seen:
- Dea has the body size and shape that is perfect for Dimma's gameplan. Dea's got very fast reflexes, sure hands and very quick hands. (BBall point gaurd, but watch him at training, his hands are good and very sure. A one grab catch.) He's strong. And he is freakishly athletic. He has a standing vertical leap better than anyone else at the club. And he is getting into the foolishly fearless mould. Dimma seems to really rate and love that. He has limitatons. But he also comes across as very single minded and very focussed, and thus does a job, plays a role. This again seems to be a trait that Dimma wants in x players per weekend.
Your example was Nason. I'd respond with 14 games, body size, lack of stickability on tackles and possibly playing to his designated role/job. Webberley plays to the role given. White the same. It was apparent a few times last year, at Coburg, that Nason didn't play to team rules.
As to his role on Sunday. It appears that he rotated on Hams and Shuey and basically shut them down. If anyone can show that is not what he did, please provide the details. Al's been asking for 24 hours. No one has answered it.
Oh and JS that first goal by Hams was a little unlucky. Hams led with a dipping twisting shoulder to draw the high tackle. WC did it all day and and got lots of soft frees for it. Lead with the head (Dusty and Foley) no free, lead with the shoulder, twist and dip, Free. Go figure.
Sorry our forum isn't good enough for you hun :(
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Billy, you ask whats the difference, and someone has already answered and that is the level of improvement. Nason stagnated after being gifted games due to the philosophy at the time. he shoed some improvement in his first year, but not much. in is second year he spent the whole year at coburg, with how many times being named in the best? by the time he was cut it was pretty much as good as you get from ben
dea has improved his output at coburg to the point where he has nullified some rated opponents, and more recently racked up some high posession games and being named in the best. he is still improving
I understand that al, but again you are missing my point or am still not making it well :P
Firstly I am only using Nason as example because he was drafted at the same time as Dea.
You point out that Nason was "gifted games" well the same can be said about Dea and any young player on the list. You then point out that Nason "stagnated"and there was no improvement from him in year 2. Where as in your view Dea has "improved his output at Coburg" (I'll make the assumption that you are saying he has improved).
I agree about Nason showed no improvement from year 1 to year 2 and I am not disputing that he deserved to be cut.
My opinion is (and people can agree or disagree) that there has been very little improvement in Dea from when he played his first game to his 8th. Simply I cannot/haven't see(n) it. As I said it's my opinion & dont expect people to agree.
And that's the argument right there in a nutshell?
Why is it that after 2 years it was OK for people to say Nason had to go because he wasn't up to it?
But if people raise the same discussion about Dea in year 3 it is "you are bagging the kid or he just needs more time"?
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I reckon its age and body size WP.
Matt was bottom aged. Ben was 20/21. And yeah Dimma seems to love that body size and commitment and what it can do on the park. The bigger body and a little more polish, imo, bought Webberley an extra year. The body size, youth and two years of injuries bought Matt a two more years to make it.
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Nason was a fraggle and the joke of the competition.
He was a defensive liability, TBR liked him, he just had to go.
He also got an extended run in the seniors, something Dea hasn't been afforded yet.
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fraggle stick car
my mum hates Nason.
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I reckon its age and body size WP.
Matt was bottom aged. Ben was 20/21. And yeah Dimma seems to love that body size and commitment and what it can do on the park. The bigger body and a little more polish, imo, bought Webberley an extra year. The body size, youth and two years of injuries bought Matt a two more years to make it.
Yep your probably right and I suppose that's what club do invest more time in kids out of the under age comps and also think you are right re Webberely
But I still think people (fans) have a right to question and discuss it without it being construed as "you are bagging the kid"
I think the "how long do you give him" (and BTW you can throw Post in as well) question is fair. Do you base it on games? Pre-seasons? time on the list?
To be honest no one has actually given a direct answer, people keep saying he needs more time but I am interested to know what people reckon that equates to
:thumbsup
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more than 8 games broken up by long periods of injury for a start.
any player who earns a spot through form at coburg deserves a fair run to see if they can make the next step up. not every player is drafted ready to make play seniors and not every player can make the step up from VFL to AFl in a heartbeat. some take a bit of time and some wont do it all.
have a decent look at them and make a decision.
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more than 8 games broken up by long periods of injury for a start.
any player who earns a spot through form at coburg deserves a fair run to see if they can make the next step up. not every player is drafted ready to make play seniors and not every player can make the step up from VFL to AFl in a heartbeat. some take a bit of time and some wont do it all.
have a decent look at them and make a decision.
OK based on that al,
If Dea was to play the rest of the season in the AFL that would take him to 25 odd games. Is that enough games to make a judgement? If it is and in your opinion you see no improvement or you think he isn't where you thought he should be or where you hoped he would be would you make a call then? Or do you wait another 12 months?
That's question
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if after 25 more games i had not seen too much improvement on what i have seen now, hadn't seen any real attributes that suggest he can make it, then i'd have no hesitation in getting rid of him.
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if after 25 more games i had not seen too much improvement on what i have seen now, hadn't seen any real attributes that suggest he can make it, then i'd have no hesitation in getting rid of him.
Thanks for the answer :thumbsup
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:cheers
A fine dea-monstration of dea-bating
Matty Dea :shh
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I've seen enough and haven't seen anything that shows me he's any good or deserves the number 7.
Some players get drafted and show things right away ie Batchelor, griffiths, Ellis, Conca. But some show nothing ie Post, Dea. Get rid of them otherwise you have list cloggers that'll never make it like Browne, Graham, Conners (loser)etc.
Remember what Hardwick has told us from the beginning. Unless you can win your own ball you won't be playing for Richmond. Or he said something along those lines.
We aren't experts but many of us see something early on that you can hang your hopes on, that one day he'll be a good player.
What I look for most is if the boy can read the play. If he can't I tend to have my reservations.
With Dea & Post I haven't seen anything that I like, especially the reading of the play. In my opinion Both of them seem to have no idea at the moment.
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Nason was a fraggle and the joke of the competition.
He was a defensive liability, TBR liked him, he just had to go.
He also got an extended run in the seniors, something Dea hasn't been afforded yet.
I don't like Shane Edwards.
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In my opinion Both of them seem to have no idea at the moment.
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:o
In my opinion Both of them seem to have no idea at the moment.
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sorry dice I have no idea who you are.
Do you like both post and dea? And if you do why don't you explain why instead of posting a nice picture.
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Nason was a fraggle and the joke of the competition.
He was a defensive liability, TBR liked him, he just had to go.
He also got an extended run in the seniors, something Dea hasn't been afforded yet.
I don't like Shane Edwards.
I don't like Kayne Pettifer.
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Yeah he's done nothing to wear the sacred number 7
Dragasevic would be devastated
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Nason was a fraggle and the joke of the competition.
He was a defensive liability, TBR liked him, he just had to go.
He also got an extended run in the seniors, something Dea hasn't been afforded yet.
I don't like Shane Edwards.
I don't like Kayne Pettifer.
I don't like Table. I don't like lamp.
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Yeah he's done nothing to wear the sacred number 7
Dragasevic would be devastated
Prescott not happy either
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Yeah he's done nothing to wear the sacred number 7
Dragasevic would be devastated
Prescott not happy either
Can the two of you show some basic respect for the jumper and the number?
It's unsavory.
Oh and Stephen Ryan wouldn't be happy either >:(
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Yeah he's done nothing to wear the sacred number 7
Dragasevic would be devastated
Prescott not happy either
Can the two of you show some basic respect for the jumper and the number?
It's unsavory.
Oh and Stephen Ryan wouldn't be happy either >:(
I wore number 7 in under 10s and 11s and I find this highly disrespectful.
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Yeah he's done nothing to wear the sacred number 7
Dragasevic would be devastated
Prescott not happy either
Can the two of you show some basic respect for the jumper and the number?
It's unsavory.
Oh and Stephen Ryan wouldn't be happy either >:(
I wore number 7 in under 10s and 11s and I find this highly disrespectful.
My jacket has 7 buttons on it and let me tell you, I am outraged >:(
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I think the "how long do you give him" (and BTW you can throw Post in as well) question is fair. Do you base it on games? Pre-seasons? time on the list?
To be honest no one has actually given a direct answer, people keep saying he needs more time but I am interested to know what people reckon that equates to
:thumbsup
I believe there's to many variables. People made valid comments on Nason's size and no improvement. Dea apparently has made improvement (havn't seen it, but i also don't see coburg games). Post is a tall, everyone seems to agree talls take more time. Makes it hard to answer whether it should be based on games, pre-seasons or time on the list
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Dea was a project player. Id give him another season if not two.
Other players to first delist.
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more than 8 games broken up by long periods of injury for a start.
any player who earns a spot through form at coburg deserves a fair run to see if they can make the next step up. not every player is drafted ready to make play seniors and not every player can make the step up from VFL to AFl in a heartbeat. some take a bit of time and some wont do it all.
have a decent look at them and make a decision.
OK based on that al,
If Dea was to play the rest of the season in the AFL that would take him to 25 odd games. Is that enough games to make a judgement? If it is and in your opinion you see no improvement or you think he isn't where you thought he should be or where you hoped he would be would you make a call then? Or do you wait another 12 months?
That's question
Think that's about right. The club does have a set of metrics which they believe measure an AFL quality footballer. (I think it is scaled to 1000 points and measures > 50 attributes and weights them.) I would believe that if they see that internal graph going the right way they continue investing, within reason.
Collingwood are on record as stating that you (they) invest in developing players until they are 24/25. After that it is wasted investment as any further development is marginal.
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HK, who tells you all this stuff?
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football manager.
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HK, who tells you all this stuff?
I'm a voracious reader. Stuff that I like sticks.
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Thanks to force-measuring accelerometers installed within Global Positioning System units, worn by the Richmond players each week, the G-Force of the hit on Dea was measured at a peak of more than 11G.
To put that in perspective, the force while standing is 1G, a space shuttle launch generates 3G, a rollercoaster 3.5G, cornering in a Formula One car creates 5G, and a NASA G-force simulator for astronaut training is measured at 10G.
Read full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/134664/default.aspx
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7 11G D :shh
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the thing about collingwood and their develpment was by a poster on here who attended some tour at the filth hole. i think it was a bit younger than what HKT said, though.
cant for the life of me remember who the poster was
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Think that's about right. The club does have a set of metrics which they believe measure an AFL quality footballer. (I think it is scaled to 1000 points and measures > 50 attributes and weights them.) I would believe that if they see that internal graph going the right way they continue investing, within reason.
How long has this method been in use at Richmond?
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Craig Cameron probably brought it in.
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Not sure when they started the metrics, but the initial ones were in place in 2006. Demo'ed at the draft preview night in 2006. My understanding is that has been enhanced by FJ each year and then significantly enhanced with BH coming on board. The club has been quoted that all AFL players get graded this (ours and opposition) as well as all potential draftees. It was a key in chasing Houli and Grigg apparently.
The Collingwood age of development was also quoted in the HS. But you're right it was on here too.
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Not sure when they started the metrics, but the initial ones were in place in 2006. Demo'ed at the draft preview night in 2006. My understanding is that has been enhanced by FJ each year and then significantly enhanced with BH coming on board. The club has been quoted that all AFL players get graded this (ours and opposition) as well as all potential draftees. It was a key in chasing Houli and Grigg apparently.
Are you talking about that thingamybob where they grade players and draftees on their skills out of 1000 (or something)? If so I think FJ was talking about that just before trade week or the draft or something in a Roar Vision video just last year. Also when trading a pick for a player, they compare their score of the player verse the score of draftees they are looking at with that pick.
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Bloody hell, Dwayne. Go back and read HK's post on the last page ;D
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HK, who tells you all this stuff?
I actually told him the Collingwood thing.
I heard it on a tour of their facilities last year.
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Bloody hell, Dwayne. Go back and read HK's post on the last page ;D
Leave the past in the past, mang. :shh
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Not sure when they started the metrics, but the initial ones were in place in 2006. Demo'ed at the draft preview night in 2006. My understanding is that has been enhanced by FJ each year and then significantly enhanced with BH coming on board. The club has been quoted that all AFL players get graded this (ours and opposition) as well as all potential draftees. It was a key in chasing Houli and Grigg apparently.
Are you talking about that thingamybob where they grade players and draftees on their skills out of 1000 (or something)? If so I think FJ was talking about that just before trade week or the draft or something in a Roar Vision video just last year. Also when trading a pick for a player, they compare their score of the player verse the score of draftees they are looking at with that pick.
Spot on. It was also discussed in more detail at a C80 function.
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:banghead :banghead :banghead
How much did the Tab payout on this bloke getting a kick?
:ROTFL
Get an effin clue idiot
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Matt Dea stats kick- 6 Handballs- 12 Total- 18 :clapping
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Matt Dea stats kick- 6 Handballs- 12 Total- 18 :clapping
Plus he ragged Butcher
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I thought he looked pretty damn good, should have been paid a very good mark deep n defence, i like the boy :shh
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Veru stiff not to be payed the one hand basketball mark. Umps a gimp.
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Veru stiff not to be payed the one hand basketball mark. Umps a gimp.
Would have been McGobbler that didn't pay it
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Matt Dea stats kick- 6 Handballs- 12 Total- 18 :clapping
And a 94% disposal efficiency :o. 2nd best Tiger today behind Newy's 100%.
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i think we saw glimpses today of why the coaches rate him so highly.
started to look more comfortable within himself, on a day when many were nowhere near as clean with possession and disposal as we would like, at that.
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Like I said, give the guy a bit of a chance to get his head around it.
Great hands and really looked like a footballer out there today :clapping
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Like I said, give the guy a bit of a chance to get his head around it.
Great hands and really looked like a footballer out there today :clapping
Thank stuff we found another one!.........hopefully
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Was delighted and suprised with his efforts today. I wrote him off ages ago.
Could be the next Rance..
Hats off to the clubs development.
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wheres jackstar to come in and tell us how crap he played today
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Pope i think you nailed it with your comment about development.This is the one area that finally we may have got right..it has taken us nearly 30 years ,but just maybe the penny has dropped
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Pope i think you nailed it with your comment about development.This is the one area that finally we may have got right..it has taken us nearly 30 years ,but just maybe the penny has dropped
5 years ago you'd see a player like Dea and say he's too far back, don't waste our time.
But he's improving and showing signs of something. I've gone from 100% line through his name to being optimistic.
Good on him and hats off to the club developing him on the improve.
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One of the corporate bookmakers are betting on Dea getting a kick this week.
$1.70 he remains kickless :thumbsup
$2.50 1 kick
$2.85 2-4 Kicks
$4.00 5-8 Kicks
$12.00 9-15 Kicks
$100.00 16 kicks and over
:lol your a fool. No, worse. Your a fool's fool.
No iDEA ;D
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Agree the kid was good down there today
With experience may come many things, but experience is the key
Would prefer to either see him spend chunks of time in vfl or afl and not ripped between the two each week.
With confidence you can do alot, you dont need to be a chris judd just a team contributor
anyway once again well done young fella :thumbsup back it up this week against the swanies
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Was a real DEAlight to watch today! The kid is stepping up....... :thumbsup
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Clearly toDEA he played his best game for the club. :thumbsup
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twas beyond DEAcent he was iDEAl.... ;)
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I was pleased with his game today but one game does not make a player. Keep it up young fella. Maybe we saw a hint of what the selection panel sees today.
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wheres jackstar to come in and tell us how crap he played today
Trying to find a hole big enough to crawl into :lol
Edit: edited quote
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Clearly toDEA he played his best game for the club. :thumbsup
You're doing it wrong
wheres jackstar to come in and tell us how crap he played today
Trying to find a hole big enough to crawl into :lol
Corked buttock
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One game doesn't make an AFL footballer but today was the first time Dea looked and played like one. You couldn't fault his game today. He now needs to keep this standard up as the norm.
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EVERYBODY NOW!
(http://static.lifeislocal.com.au/multimedia/images/full/1356284.jpg)
Gonna find my baby, gonna hold her tight
gonna grab some afternoon DEA-light.
My motto's always been; when it's right, it's right.
Why wait until DEA middle of a cold dark night.
When everything's a little clearer in the light of DEA.
And you know DEA night is always gonna be there any way.
Sky rockets in flight. BOOOOOOM! Afternoon DEA-light WOOOOP! A-A-Afternoon DEA-light
Started out this morning feeling so polite
I always though a fish could not be caught who wouldn't bite
But you've got some bait a waitin' and I think I might try nibbling
a little afternoon DEA-light.
Sky rockets in flight. BOOOOOOM! Afternoon DEA-light WOOOOP! A-A-Afternoon DEA-light.
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Let's all just settle down, the coaches like Dea and I trust them to make the right decisions.
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Snip! Stick to the topic ppl!
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Snip!
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and Tuck !
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thought he did some OK to good things yesterday, especially when he didn't try and think too much, that is he took the first option disposal wise. When he took the 1st option in most cases he made the right decision but when he tried to play outside his limitations (eg on the wing whe he tried to get arounf a few blokes) he looked very poor indeed
However, despite doing some good things he also struggled at times againt to read the the play coming into the Power's F50. We sat down near the goals (end to the left when watching the TV) and again he was slow to react when Port switched play (especially when they had the momentum in the 3rd) resulting in his opponent (not Butcher)being able to get an early jump on him, fortunately for us the Power were too stupid to use this their advantage. It was interesting to watch from that angle, doubt it would have shown on the TV
As I said better signs but still a long way to go
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Another solid game from a teenager playing his 30 th game of afl at any level.
Great leadership potential
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Has undoubtedly shown improvement but he is coming from a long way back and still has a way to go. Still from where he was their is hope he may actually make it. Starting to look like a footballer.
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Yes, really liked his game yesterday :thumbsup
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Has great athleticism for a guy his size. I'm impressed.
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Like his courage too
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His courage and his ability to make a contest are good. Needs to keep improving
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Really liked the look of our backline.
Grimes/Rance KP.
Batch/Dea/Morris medium courageous defenders
Newman, Bachar the quarter back types.
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Has great athleticism for a guy his size. I'm impressed.
Cause he is a basketball boy :thumbsup
GogoDeaArms
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Had my doubts.
He is starting to remove them one by one. Won many of his team mates over when he backed into Darling 2 weeks ago. Seems to be understanding how to position himself on the field. Another 20 odd games without injury and we may have found ourselves another good footballer!
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You better believe it :shh
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Tell you what if this guy makes it.........what a story of persistence by the club and the player!
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One thing i can be certain about Dea , even this early into his football life,is that he certainly doesnt lack courage..lets give him the time now to see if he can develop into a footballer,remembering that he started his football life very late in his teens
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Tell you what if this guy makes it.........what a story of persistence by the club and the player!
Yeah, i mean whoa, a player breaks out in third season, like thats never been done before ::)
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:lol
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Tell you what if this guy makes it.........what a story of persistence by the club and the player!
Yeah, i mean whoa, a player breaks out in third season, like thats never been done before ::)
Knob head, look at where he came from and the continual bagging he gets......get with the program. :whistle
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Tell you what if this guy makes it.........what a story of persistence by the club and the player!
why do you say that WAT? the club leant years ago that jackstar has no idea ;D
in all seriousness, he missed most of his first year through injury, so effectively, he is only in his second season.
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:lol
Gerks, you have lowered yourself many times today... :-[
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Fights breaking out everywhere this w/e
Tell you what if this guy makes it.........what a story of persistence by the club and the player!
why do you say that WAT? the club leant years ago that jackstar has no idea ;D
in all seriousness, he missed most of his first year through injury, so effectively, he is only in his second season.
No, he's in his 3rd season :thumbsup :lol
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Tell you what if this guy makes it.........what a story of persistence by the club and the player!
why do you say that WAT? the club leant years ago that jackstar has no idea ;D
in all seriousness, he missed most of his first year through injury, so effectively, he is only in his second season.
:thumbsup
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:lol
Gerks, you have lowered yourself many times today... :-[
Agreed, WAT.
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Tell you what if this guy makes it.........what a story of persistence by the club and the player!
Yeah, i mean whoa, a player breaks out in third season, like thats never been done before ::)
And on that note, Edwards hasn't "broken out" and never stuffing will, now there is your WHOA!
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:lol
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:lol
Gerks, you have lowered yourself many times today... :-[
You're making me rise <3
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:lol
Gerks, you have lowered yourself many times today... :-[
You're making me rise <3
Let's hope you are equal too it.
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:lol be gentle big fella
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:lol be gentle big fella
;D
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Tell you what if this guy makes it.........what a story of persistence by the club and the player!
Yeah, i mean whoa, a player breaks out in third season, like thats never been done before ::)
Knob head, look at where he came from and the continual bagging he gets......get with the program. :whistle
Best to ignore the peanut gallery, believe me its a mile off where the club has rated this kid :shh....and i dont care for the dispariging remark either
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Tell you what if this guy makes it.........what a story of persistence by the club and the player!
Yeah, i mean whoa, a player breaks out in third season, like thats never been done before ::)
Knob head, look at where he came from and the continual bagging he gets......get with the program. :whistle
Best to ignore the peanut gallery, believe me its a mile off where the club has rated this kid :shh....and i dont care for the dispariging remark either
Ok cheers, I know, I should listen to you experts more often.....bloody peanuts..... :whistle
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Speaking of peanuts, Jackstar seems very quiet on this subject at the moment........,
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Speaking of peanuts, Jackstar seems very quiet on this subject at the moment........,
:lol
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There was a bit more good but there were 2 glaring bad decisions that were costly. One in the 2nd when he went for a mark that wasn't his and it appears he was called out and the 2nd ont he 3rd qtr where got sucked in on the wing which gave Denis-Lane a cheap mark who chipped to Kennedy which gifted the Swans that goal that got them back within 14 points
Most worrying thing is Eddie McEverywhere seems to love him..... wouldnt' want that on my resume ;D
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Speaking of peanuts, Jackstar seems very quiet on this subject at the moment........,
lmao
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There was a bit more good but there were 2 glaring bad decisions that were costly. One in the 2nd when he went for a mark that wasn't his and it appears he was called out and the 2nd ont he 3rd qtr where got sucked in on the wing which gave Denis-Lane a cheap mark who chipped to Kennedy which gifted the Swans that goal that got them back within 14 points
Most worrying thing is Eddie McEverywhere seems to love him..... wouldnt' want that on my resume ;D
Party pooper! Why don't you start a hate thread ;D ;D
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My god, 9 gamer makes 2 errors
FFS ::)
But I'd be back-peddling too if I was the only one still agreeing with Jackstar lmao
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Don't get too carried away .he only kicked the ball 3 times yesterday
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There was a bit more good but there were 2 glaring bad decisions that were costly. One in the 2nd when he went for a mark that wasn't his and it appears he was called out and the 2nd ont he 3rd qtr where got sucked in on the wing which gave Denis-Lane a cheap mark who chipped to Kennedy which gifted the Swans that goal that got them back within 14 points
Most worrying thing is Eddie McEverywhere seems to love him..... wouldnt' want that on my resume ;D
Party pooper! Why don't you start a hate thread ;D ;D
No need too, I actually praised him
But I was also just trying to give an example as to why although I can see some improvement from him I still see faults that need to be addressed and that's why I still have these ? ? ? ? ? ? ;D
My god, 9 gamer makes 2 errors
FFS ::)
But I'd be back-peddling too if I was the only one still agreeing with Jackstar lmao
So I am not allowed to have an opinion?
As for the 2 errors - didn't people on here whack Ellis the other week in just his 5th game for his 1 big error against the Eagles?
So how is giving 2 examples of things that are (again in my opinion) the areas that are still a concern when it comes to his game different from people handing out whacks to Ellis a fortnight ago :huh
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I thought he did some nice things yesterday and for two weeks in a row he has been passable.
After 9 games that's all you can hope for, that the kid keeps on improving. :thumbsup
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So I am not allowed to have an opinion?
As for the 2 errors - didn't people on here whack Ellis the other week in just his 5th game for his 1 big error against the Eagles?
So how is giving 2 examples of things that are (again in my opinion) the areas that are still a concern when it comes to his game different from people handing out whacks to Ellis a fortnight ago :huh
It's no different to those whacking Ellis. Who said it was?
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So I am not allowed to have an opinion?
As for the 2 errors - didn't people on here whack Ellis the other week in just his 5th game for his 1 big error against the Eagles?
So how is giving 2 examples of things that are (again in my opinion) the areas that are still a concern when it comes to his game different from people handing out whacks to Ellis a fortnight ago :huh
It's no different to those whacking Ellis. Who said it was?
Then maybe you should have posted something like this at the time
"My god, 5 gamer makes 1 big error
FFS ::)"
;D :thumbsup
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gg can't be everywhere
thanks,
gg
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gg can't be everywhere
thanks,
gg
touche
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Defensive players kicks only from Swans game
Rance 20
Grimes 18
Newman 16
Houli 11
Morris 11
Batchelor 6
Dea 3
Don't you posters get ahead of yourself now
And besides Dea.they all had bounces on the weekend and attack with run and carry
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Defensive players kicks only from Swans game
Rance 20
Grimes 18
Newman 16
Houli 11
Morris 11
Batchelor 6
Dea 3
Don't you posters get ahead of yourself now
And besides Dea.they all had bounces on the weekend and attack with run and carry
Of more concern to me is Batchelor 6. Dea is only a brand new infant in the scheme of AFL things and as Hardwick did with most of his other 'babies', he let them have an extended run in the seniors to get senior games under their belts and learn about the pace and pressure of the game. That opportunity was denied to Dea to an extent in his first couple of years due to injury and sheer weight of numbers that were getting 'gifted' games for experience but this year with a stated policy of having to earn games it has largely closed the door on those opportunities. The football department have often stated that they see a lot of potential and upside in Dea and if they believe that, then it's only natural that they are going to give him every opportunity in their efforts to develop him into a senior standard player. To be honest, I don't have a problem in the world with them doing that because they have to trust and back their judgement, just like they instruct the players to do. I would rather them try and fail than find out after he goes to another club that he did have the goods and proceeds to carve us up on a regular basis.
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Would agree with that
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Defensive players kicks only from Swans game
Rance 20
Grimes 18
Newman 16
Houli 11
Morris 11
Batchelor 6
Dea 3
Don't you posters get ahead of yourself now
And besides Dea.they all had bounces on the weekend and attack with run and carry
When Morris, Grimes and /or Batch run off Dea rotates to that man. He covered on Darling in the West Coast game (got a couple of very good spoils in from in front), Butcher in the Port game and outbodied Butcher and spoiled from in front. Something his basketball background provides him with.
In the West Coast game he didn't run off at all.
In the Port game he ran off to the defensive 50 line.
Against the Swans he made it to the wing at least twice.
An astute observor should have picked all of that up.
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As a defender.you need to run and carry and take them on
Something that Grimes.Rance and Morris has learned very quick
Just watch Bachar play
Same as Newy
This we haven't seen with Dea
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As a defender.you need to run and carry and take them on
Something that Grimes.Rance and Morris has learned very quick
Just watch Bachar play
Same as Newy
This we haven't seen with Dea
Agree with that
I think it has a bit to do with confidence in being prepared to back yourself in and take the first option. Do that and most times you get get the run & carry
What I've noticed in the last 2 weeks is that when Dea doesn't have to think about which option to take he is much better. When he gets in a situation of having multiple options he struggles. I think they should do with Dea what they appeared to do with Rance in the beginning and that is always go the first option
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It's staggering that a player who has only played 30-40 games of footy in his life, is playing senior afl footy. Says abit about how highly the club rate him. When I heard that i stopped and propped, is doing very well under the circumstances to be showing an improvement in composure so early on. Maybe there is something there...
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Dreamtime will be Deatime at the G :shh
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Don't get too carried away .he only kicked the ball 3 times yesterday
Every game dea is given lock down rolls with his job to stop his player before winning the ball.
Look back.who deas played on.
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As a defender.you need to run and carry and take them on
Something that Grimes.Rance and Morris has learned very quick
Just watch Bachar play
Same as Newy
This we haven't seen with Dea
Agree with that
I think it has a bit to do with confidence in being prepared to back yourself in and take the first option. Do that and most times you get get the run & carry
What I've noticed in the last 2 weeks is that when Dea doesn't have to think about which option to take he is much better. When he gets in a situation of having multiple options he struggles. I think they should do with Dea what they appeared to do with Rance in the beginning and that is always go the first option
To be fair, we didn't see much run and carry from Grimes last year, just spoiled the hell out of the contest which was great. In the last 3 weeks he has taken his game ahead of Rance for mine with his run and carry and his MARKING of the ball.
Dea has improved, but has a long way to go there. Signs suggest he may just be something though :thumbsup
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Where is the list who deas been on jack?
Use your mind young skywalker.
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To be fair, we didn't see much run and carry from Grimes last year, just spoiled the hell out of the contest which was great. In the last 3 weeks he has taken his game ahead of Rance for mine with his run and carry and his MARKING of the ball.
True posted the same thing in another thread (Grimes -v- Rance) :thumbsup
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Defensive players kicks only from Swans game
Rance 20
Grimes 18
Newman 16
Houli 11
Morris 11
Batchelor 6
Dea 3
Don't you posters get ahead of yourself now
And besides Dea.they all had bounces on the weekend and attack with run and carry
Only Rance and Newman had more contested possessions
Dea Grimes and Batchelor didn't bounce the ball
Equal lowest disposal count as Batchelor
Only Newman had less clangers
Batch and Dea lowest marks
Dea had the most tackles out of them all
4th most 1%ers in the team
Does that make him a superstar? No. But you can't judge a kids game by just how many times he kicks the thing.
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Dea is proceeding way way way ahead of expectations.
Let's enjoy the ride.
He will be elite
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It's staggering that a player who has only played 30-40 games of footy in his life, is playing senior afl footy. Says abit about how highly the club rate him. When I heard that i stopped and propped, is doing very well under the circumstances to be showing an improvement in composure so early on. Maybe there is something there...
30-40 games all up, including junior footy?
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Yep
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that's a fair effort
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It's staggering that a player who has only played 30-40 games of footy in his life, is playing senior afl footy. Says abit about how highly the club rate him. When I heard that i stopped and propped, is doing very well under the circumstances to be showing an improvement in composure so early on. Maybe there is something there...
I reckon its staggering that we drafted him in the first place.
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It's staggering that a player who has only played 30-40 games of footy in his life, is playing senior afl footy. Says abit about how highly the club rate him. When I heard that i stopped and propped, is doing very well under the circumstances to be showing an improvement in composure so early on. Maybe there is something there...
I reckon its staggering that we drafted him in the first place.
That Dead Horse should be pretty tender by now, ever considered making it into sausages??
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It's staggering that a player who has only played 30-40 games of footy in his life, is playing senior afl footy. Says abit about how highly the club rate him. When I heard that i stopped and propped, is doing very well under the circumstances to be showing an improvement in composure so early on. Maybe there is something there...
I reckon its staggering that we drafted him in the first place.
i think its staggering u still type your dribble and waste so much good oxygen
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It's staggering that a player who has only played 30-40 games of footy in his life, is playing senior afl footy. Says abit about how highly the club rate him. When I heard that i stopped and propped, is doing very well under the circumstances to be showing an improvement in composure so early on. Maybe there is something there...
I reckon its staggering that we drafted him in the first place.
That Dead Horse should be pretty tender by now, ever considered making it into sausages??
Glue. For a thorough old tea-bagging.
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It's staggering that a player who has only played 30-40 games of footy in his life, is playing senior afl footy. Says abit about how highly the club rate him. When I heard that i stopped and propped, is doing very well under the circumstances to be showing an improvement in composure so early on. Maybe there is something there...
I reckon its staggering that we drafted him in the first place.
That Dead Horse should be pretty tender by now, ever considered making it into sausages??
Glue. For a thorough old tea-bagging.
:lol :lol
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It's staggering that a player who has only played 30-40 games of footy in his life, is playing senior afl footy. Says abit about how highly the club rate him. When I heard that i stopped and propped, is doing very well under the circumstances to be showing an improvement in composure so early on. Maybe there is something there...
I reckon its staggering that we drafted him in the first place.
That Dead Horse should be pretty tender by now, ever considered making it into sausages??
Glue. For a thorough old tea-bagging.
:lol :lol
:lol :lol :lol :lol
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It's staggering that a player who has only played 30-40 games of footy in his life, is playing senior afl footy. Says abit about how highly the club rate him. When I heard that i stopped and propped, is doing very well under the circumstances to be showing an improvement in composure so early on. Maybe there is something there...
I reckon its staggering that we drafted him in the first place.
That Dead Horse should be pretty tender by now, ever considered making it into sausages??
Glue. For a thorough old tea-bagging.
:lol :lol
:lol :lol :lol :lol
Hey hey hey, no more pyramids.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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No more fun. :(
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No more fun. :(
Its all Dookies Fault >:( >:(
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Good one Dookie. :wallywink
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It's staggering that a player who has only played 30-40 games of footy in his life, is playing senior afl footy. Says abit about how highly the club rate him. When I heard that i stopped and propped, is doing very well under the circumstances to be showing an improvement in composure so early on. Maybe there is something there...
I reckon its staggering that we drafted him in the first place.
Dea is so good we were hiding behind trees watching him.
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Yeah, the boy can play.
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Dea is proceeding way way way ahead of expectations.
Let's enjoy the ride.
He will be elite
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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jackstar laugh all u want , cos we all laugh at you
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jackstar laugh all u want , cos we all laugh at you ,
^^Fact!
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Dea will be elite. FACT.
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3 kicks ::)
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Happy for the signs, but as some say let's not get too carried away.
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3 kicks ::)
And every one elite
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DEA-lightful
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nice 1 handed pick up on the wing in the 2qtr then a lace out pace to Nahas in the F50 who heard footsteps and dropped it
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DEA-ranged
Good signs but hardly a star.
He is improving but needs to continue to grow and improve before we can cash in our pennies. :thumbsup
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Surely if he can be called a dud he can be called a star?
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Matt’s motivation
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Wed 23 May, 2012
Young Richmond defender Matt Dea is using some of his seasoned Tiger teammates as inspiration in his efforts to forge a successful career for himself at the game’s highest level.
The 20-year-old, who played his 11th AFL game in last Saturday night’s Dreamtime clash with Essendon, sang the praises of Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio and the Club’s captain Chris Newman on regional radio’s “Sports Day” program.
Read the rest of the article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/136651/default.aspx
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If he's taking his defensive cues from Newy then I'm off the D-Train
sheesh
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Amazing ..a guy who has played barely 11 games has achieved 60 pages of responses.....Remember barely 11 games
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Amazing ..a guy who has played barely 11 games has achieved 60 pages of responses.....Remember barely 11 games
It's because he's such a Dea-va
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It's because he plays for the mighty Tiges :thumbsup
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Great kid.
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Keeping the kid in the side will only help him at this stage.
Will have his hands full this weekend with the Hawks.
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VIDEO: AFL Central interview with Matty Dea ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/466269/default.aspx
or
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/466269/Matt%20Dea%20Profile/
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Great kid.
That's lovely- but can he play footy?
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Derek Hine thinks so but he's a muppet with no runs on the board
wait, wot?
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Is promising but needs to learn not to over-commit in a contest. Morris likewise.
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Made alot of blues today. IMHO I thought some of his poor handballs to feet and one kick directly resulted in 4 goals to Melbourne today. Thought he was very lacklustre today.
Not the first time his disposal has cost goals. Needs to work on it and make himself better.
Application and courage is good but his disposal lets him down and did so painfully today.
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I thought dea was good
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Terrible again tonight
Dea-List
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Terrible again tonight
Dea-List
That's good from you ;D unfortunately we don't have a replacement he has to stay........
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You may as well get a witches hat and write no 7 on it
At least the witches hat won't fall over
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You may as well get a witches hat and write no 7 on it
At least the witches hat won't fall over
We had two witches hats out there today in Gus and Weberly. At least Dea put his body on the line.
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Yes.put his body on the line when he wasn't laying on the ground
Webberley useless .spectator
Graham hopeless waste of oxygen
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Yes.put his body on the line when he wasn't laying on the ground
Webberley useless .spectator
Graham hopeless waste of oxygen
There were 5 players out there today that we're worse than Dea.....Fact
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I would agree but if you think Matt Dea is anywhere near our best 22. .your dreaming
He got flogged tonight
The 5 worse?
Webberley
Graham
Derrickx
Who else ?
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I would agree but if you think Matt Dea is anywhere near our best 22. .your dreaming
He got flogged tonight
The 5 worse?
Webberley
Graham
Derrickx
Who else ?
Hang on did I say that? Read my first post, we have no one to replace him with so he stays. His last 3 weeks have been poor and I have no doubt he would have been dropped if we could cover him but the fact is we can't......Fact.
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I would agree but if you think Matt Dea is anywhere near our best 22. .your dreaming
He got flogged tonight
The 5 worse?
Webberley
Graham
Derrickx
Who else ?
According to you at 3 qt time Conca was still poor. So there's 4 :lol :rollin :lol
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As I have posted
Ins.one orange witches hat with a no
7 written on it
You will get the same result
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I would agree but if you think Matt Dea is anywhere near our best 22. .your dreaming
He got flogged tonight
The 5 worse?
Webberley
Graham
Derrickx
Who else ?
According to you at 3 qt time Conca was still poor. So there's 4 :lol :rollin :lol
Give me a spell
Just watched the replay twice
Concas kicking is a disgrace
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I would agree but if you think Matt Dea is anywhere near our best 22. .your dreaming
He got flogged tonight
The 5 worse?
Webberley
Graham
Derrickx
Who else ?
According to you at 3 qt time Conca was still poor. So there's 4 :lol :rollin :lol
Give me a spell
Just watched the replay twice
Concas kicking is a disgrace
:sleep :sleep and here is why the club gave you the arse :lol
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I would agree but if you think Matt Dea is anywhere near our best 22. .your dreaming
He got flogged tonight
The 5 worse?
Webberley
Graham
Derrickx
Who else ?
According to you at 3 qt time Conca was still poor. So there's 4 :lol :rollin :lol
Give me a spell
Just watched the replay twice
Concas kicking is a disgrace
Sometimes Jack you need to stop finding scapegoats.
Conca was great in the 2nd half.
You were harping on at 3qt time that Conca's 3rd quarter was merely against the bottom team to
smokescreen the fact he had lifted his game to an apporpriate level.
Conca was going at 70% with 23 touches.
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Yep.and the 30% went to the opposition
Remember we lost to the bottom team tonight
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Yep.and the 30% went to the opposition
Remember we lost to the bottom team tonight
Que the Dead Horse emicon :sleep :sleep
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Yep.and the 30% went to the opposition
Remember we lost to the bottom team tonight
Six players had worse disposal efficiency yet Webberley, Graham and Derickx who were all so much poorer than Reece had better disposal efficiency despite the fact that Reece had 23 touches which is more than the other 3 combined.
Use the we lost to bottom team tonight to get the panicky point across.
That should fire up the rank and files to dump manure on the club.
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At least dea put his head over the ball.
We lost to a team of squibs.
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Dud, delist.
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How much longer do we have to persevere with the Matt Dea experiment? He is still being gifted games-at what point will he have to earn his spot? I feel sorry for the other defenders, it's as if they are playing one short.
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How much longer do we have to persevere with the Matt Dea experiment? He is still being gifted games-at what point will he have to earn his spot? I feel sorry for the other defenders, it's as if they are playing one short.
Because its a good movie title?
There are dea-lectable play on word games?
We hate the number 7?
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To be honest dont know what the club sees in him.Kills us with his bad kicks.
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Interesting player. A bit to work with.
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Didnt the club have a policy if you cant kick you wont get recruited or picked.
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Didnt the club have a policy if you cant kick you wont get recruited or picked.
Dea's kicking isn't great but we've got plenty of other's who are struggling to hit a target atm. Some our supposed elite kicks. What strikes me most about Matt are his clean hands. Every so often does something to make you really sit up and take notice. He's a 20 year old just 19 games into his career. This is a development phase for him. May not make it but I see enough to persevere for a while yet..
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I actually haven't noticed him as much, which is a good thing. Less mistakes and I think he is becoming more confident.
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His disposal efficiency is at 77.78% which is ranked 10th at the club. Has started to show a bit and has good promise
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Big Pappi :cheers
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Interesting player. A bit to work with.
agreed plenty to work with. for now is a keeper for sure and we should be getting games into him.
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Will say really nice bloke
Struggling on the field I am afraid
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Will say really nice bloke
Struggling on the field I am afraid
Fair call
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Ive gotta say, ive been practically stopped in the street people asking why this guy is out of the side, sheesh a few weeks ack he was one of the first picked :huh
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Ive gotta say, ive been practically stopped in the street people asking why this guy is out of the side, sheesh a few weeks ack he was one of the first picked :huh
Yeah me too. One guy stopped me and said "where is the prodigy?"
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Ive gotta say, ive been practically stopped in the street people asking why this guy is out of the side, sheesh a few weeks ack he was one of the first picked :huh
Yeah me too. One guy stopped me and said "where is the prodigy?"
I got stopped in the street too one day by a guy wanting to know where to buy the best Beefcakes.
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Happened to me last month. Bloke who stopped me was Fritzy
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Just got a random call from someone I don't even know asking why he is out of the side. Bloody whoa
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Check the guns on Matty Dea :o
(https://stuff-ash4/373990_10151245522053276_1897090978_n.jpg)
https://stuff-ash4/373990_10151245522053276_1897090978_n.jpg
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Warrior
Helbig is massive too.
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Hopefully his ability has improved over the off season.
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Maybe we are bulking him up for a Stevie Morris Mark II type of role.
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Check the guns on Matty Dea :o
(https://stuff-ash4/373990_10151245522053276_1897090978_n.jpg)
https://stuff-ash4/373990_10151245522053276_1897090978_n.jpg
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Check the guns on Matty Dea :o
(https://stuff-ash4/373990_10151245522053276_1897090978_n.jpg)
https://stuff-ash4/373990_10151245522053276_1897090978_n.jpg
mother of god
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:bow
Dea-stroyer
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Maybe we are bulking him up for a Stevie Morris Mark II type of role.
Crazy talk. How u fit them in the same back 6?
Unless you pull a rabbit and move Morris to the middle :whistle
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In outstanding form :shh
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In outstanding form :shh
Who goes out of the side for him though ? :shh
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Morris -> middle
Dea -> back line
Nahas / king / Jackson under the pump. Ellis will lift
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Morris ain't a midfielder. BP or Kingy's role. That's it for the albino.
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Talking of Morris hope he is primed for a big shut down job on Fri night
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(http://truezebras.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/dsc_8101.jpg)
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Had a lot of the football sweeping yet had five goals kicked on him.
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Had a lot of the football sweeping yet had five goals kicked on him.
Apparently not true, I wasnt there but most reports suggest Dennis Lane kicked 4 om McDonough
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Had a lot of the football sweeping yet had five goals kicked on him.
Apparently not true, I wasnt there but most reports suggest Dennis Lane kicked 4 om McDonough
People have been crossing the street to tell me this too.
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Had a lot of the football sweeping yet had five goals kicked on him.
Apparently not true, I wasnt there but most reports suggest Dennis Lane kicked 4 om McDonough
I was there, McDonough played half forward and pushed up on the wing early on. Dea mopped up and read the play well but still is slow making his decisions and was caught a few times. Was confident in knowing where to run and when to run and kicked a nice goal.
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Had a lot of the football sweeping yet had five goals kicked on him.
Apparently not true, I wasnt there but most reports suggest Dennis Lane kicked 4 om McDonough
I was there, McDonough played half forward and pushed up on the wing early on. Dea mopped up and read the play well but still is slow making his decisions and was caught a few times. Was confident in knowing where to run and when to run and kicked a nice goal.
Not sure what you were watching but McDonough played half forward late in the game, not early on.
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BEST:
Box Hill Hawks: Tobin Hallahan Simpkin Spangher Lock Lawlor
Coburg Tigers: Dea Foley A.Edwards Darrou Arnot Stephenson
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Bring back the great gatsby :bow :bow :bow
Yesssssssssss!
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Was at box hill today, did some special things :shh
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Should come in for Newman.
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Should come in for Newman.
No. Petterd.
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Should come in for Newman.
No. Petterd.
No Petterd has more value than Chris right now as he can also play forward.
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Should come in for Newman.
No. Petterd.
No Petterd has more value than Chris right now
No he doesn't. Has about as much value as a can of fanta
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Should come in for Newman.
No. Petterd.
No Petterd has more value than Chris right now
No he doesn't. Has about as much value as a can of fanta
Is that the orange fanta or the cherry fanta?
I've never had the cherry.
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I've never had the cherry.
Never had it or never lost it?
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I've never had the cherry.
Never had it or never lost it?
Never had it. You can't lose something you've never had or never really wanted to have. :thumbsup
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Oh my
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I've never had the cherry.
Never had it or never lost it?
Never had it. You can't lose something you've never had or never really wanted to have. :thumbsup
:lol :clapping
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Was at box hill today, did some special things :shh
Did he cross the street to show you?
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Was at box hill today, did some special things :shh
Did he cross the street to show you?
:lol
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is the cherry...ripe???
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Gets a game next week surely??
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Why?
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Start limbering up Dea, you re in next week matey :shh
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Bump
EVERYBODY NOW!
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Gonna find my baby, gonna hold her tight
gonna grab some afternoon DEA-light.
My motto's always been; when it's right, it's right.
Why wait until DEA middle of a cold dark night.
When everything's a little clearer in the light of DEA.
And you know DEA night is always gonna be there any way.
Sky rockets in flight. BOOOOOOM! Afternoon DEA-light WOOOOP! A-A-Afternoon DEA-light
Started out this morning feeling so polite
I always though a fish could not be caught who wouldn't bite
But you've got some bait a waitin' and I think I might try nibbling
a little afternoon DEA-light.
Sky rockets in flight. BOOOOOOM! Afternoon DEA-light WOOOOP! A-A-Afternoon DEA-light.
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I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll be a good footballer
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I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll be a good footballer
I haven't seen anything to suggest that you'll be a good poster but every now and then I'll read some of your dribble just to see if there is any hope.
Dropped again
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I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll be a good footballer
I haven't seen anything to suggest that you'll be a good poster but every now and then I'll read some of your dribble just to see if there is any hope.
Dropped again
I forgot that players who can't hit targets are your favourite
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Matt Dea IMO is going to be a very good player for this club in the future. He has what it takes to be a very hard at it half back flanker in the mould of a Corey Enright type from Geelong. He is brave, can play tall and small and can take a nice grab. IMO he is tracking well, learning the game with each time he goes out there. As for his kicking, take a good look today and take your assessment from today and onwards and not from what you may have seen two years ago or from what others say from two years ago..
I think as supporters we are really quick to pidgin hole our young talent, am I am guilty of it too but what we should do is, every time a young guy comes in after some time at Coburg is access them with a clean slate, if they do the same things as before then maybe they are still learning but people can change thing in there games and some take time. Remember that is what playing at Coburg is for.
Really looking forward to seeing him today and seeing how he has progressed and seeing the Tiges smash the Dees. :gotigers
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Saw his kicking in the Coburg game a few weeks ago and it was the same crap that was dished up by him in 2010/11/12
I hope I'm proven wrong as he has all the other skills to make it
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Saw his kicking in the Coburg game a few weeks ago and it was the same crap that was dished up by him in 2010/11/12
I hope I'm proven wrong as he has all the other skills to make it
Give him a chance Mrakov. He is the type of player that can take us forward.. Would rather see this kid having a red hot go than seeing Grigg prancing around the outside of the packs looking for easy kicks.
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Saw his kicking in the Coburg game a few weeks ago and it was the same crap that was dished up by him in 2010/11/12
I hope I'm proven wrong as he has all the other skills to make it
Agree 100%
You might want to remind "'yellow and black"' that we havent played finals for a long time for a reason.'
And how things are shaping, we might be lucky to finish 8th
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I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll be a good footballer
I haven't seen anything to suggest that you'll be a good poster but every now and then I'll read some of your dribble just to see if there is any hope.
Dropped again
::)
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Good to see Dea getting another game he certainly has impressed in the magoos so far this year.I will be very keen to see how his disposal is today as I still think that's a big weakness for him
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Give him a chance Mrakov. He is the type of player that can take us forward.. Would rather see this kid having a red hot go than seeing Grigg prancing around the outside of the packs looking for easy kicks.
So true :clapping
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Agree 100%
You might want to remind "'yellow and black"' that we havent played finals for a long time for a reason.'
And how things are shaping, we might be lucky to finish 8th
I agree. It's been a poor start to the season...luckily Dea is playing today.
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Matt Dea IMO is going to be a very good player for this club in the future. He has what it takes to be a very hard at it half back flanker in the mould of a Corey Enright type from Geelong. He is brave, can play tall and small and can take a nice grab. IMO he is tracking well, learning the game with each time he goes out there. As for his kicking, take a good look today and take your assessment from today and onwards and not from what you may have seen two years ago or from what others say from two years ago..
I think as supporters we are really quick to pidgin hole our young talent, am I am guilty of it too but what we should do is, every time a young guy comes in after some time at Coburg is access them with a clean slate, if they do the same things as before then maybe they are still learning but people can change thing in there games and some take time. Remember that is what playing at Coburg is for.
Really looking forward to seeing him today and seeing how he has progressed and seeing the Tiges smash the Dees. :gotigers
The big, big Tone! :clapping
i'm also a Dea fan. His disposal looked good in the games i've attended this year. I think he's developing steadily and growing in confidence.
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thought he was ordinary today..how did you guys see his game?
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thought he was ordinary today..how did you guys see his game?
Does not feel like he belongs. Desperately needs a breakout game.
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thought he was ordinary today..how did you guys see his game?
Does not feel like he belongs. Desperately needs a breakout game.
Plays his role and blankets his opponent. Was ok today.
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he did well today unlike many others
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I thought he did well. Shut his opponents down as well as a few courageous acts.
I can't recall any errors or at least any errors of consequence which cost us. Unlike others.
A solid 7/10 for Dea.
He could teach the likes of Nahas a thing or two about courage and Grigg about kicking to the fat side of the contest (and without 9 ironing it).
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I thought he did well. Shut his opponents down as well as a few courageous acts.
I can't recall any errors or at least any errors of consequence which cost us. Unlike others.
A solid 7/10 for Dea.
He could teach the likes of Nahas a thing or two about courage and Grigg about kicking to the fat side of the contest (and without 9 ironing it).
He is dea-vilshly good down back. Wouldn't want to play on him.
Dea-lzebub for opposition forwards
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I thought he was solid and very tough, as per usual.
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:clapping
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No good !
Delist
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well MT I will put my hand up and say I was wrong
It is now 8.37pm and nothing on this thread :rollin :rollin
:thumbsup
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Please dont drop him
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Only one bad kick I noticed, can't drop him on that
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Solid game
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Starting to look like he belongs
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He had a corker tonight
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looks composed and reliable .. loved his game. bachelor needs a battery up his clacker
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He had a corker tonight
He did hope he plays a block of games now and cements his spot. :thumbsup
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Thought he was good last night, beat Hill when it mattered
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His best game thus far IMO. 'Switched' with an attacking mind-set.
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good to see he is silencing his critics,
top notch prospect destined to be a fan favourite,
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But FJ can't pick outside the 1st round. Dud, delist. :shh
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B: Dea - Grimes - Chaplin
HB: Bachelor - Rance - Morris
:pray
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I have it on good authority Dea listens to this before every game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL2Bgj-za5k
:o
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After yesterday, that is it
Good bloke, struggles at AFL Level.
Never ever again :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Dea and Bachelor are not the problem. They are young.
White, Jackson, AEdwards, King, Orren, Grigg are the issue,=.
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Dea played some dumb football yesterday.not sure where to hide him at this point in time
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But FJ can't pick outside the 1st round. Dud, delist. :shh
good to see you coming around to that thought, :whistle its very clear fj has been poor outside of the 1st round.
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Dea and Bachelor are not the problem. They are young.
White, Jackson, AEdwards, King, Orren, Grigg are the issue,=.
White was in our best 3 yesterday.
Gave his all.
Others yep were less than ordinary.
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Dea played some dumb football yesterday.not sure where to hide him at this point in time
Have to agree with his
Looked lost too many times yesterday
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Dea played some dumb football yesterday.not sure where to hide him at this point in time
Have to agree with his
Looked lost too many times yesterday
He had a number of mates.......
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Dea played some dumb football yesterday.not sure where to hide him at this point in time
Have to agree with his
Looked lost too many times yesterday
He had a number of mates.......
So true Smokey, unfortunately for some players the beacon shines brighter than for others. Sadly, Dea fits into the category
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Matty 'Poo' Dea
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Matty 'Poo' Dea
Seen enough
Every game he has played has been rubbish
Delist
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Is young and shouldn't be the scape goat for the north loss.
Played well in his previous game. Consistency the issue.
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Is young and shouldn't be the scape goat for the north loss.
Played well in his previous game. Consistency the issue.
:cheers
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Matty 'Poo' Dea
Seen enough
Every game he has played has been rubbish
Delist
Spot on Daniel son
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Is young and shouldn't be the scape goat for the north loss.
Played well in his previous game. Consistency the issue.
Well said. Played well against Eagles and has been a standout for Coburg. One poor game when the whole team played like ass is not sufficient to write him off.
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It was hard to find any standout performances from our seniors let alone kids who are still developing. I don't think that we can judge Dea on the North game alone.
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Is young and shouldn't be the scape goat for the north loss.
Played well in his previous game. Consistency the issue.
Well said. Played well against Eagles and has been a standout for Coburg. One poor game when the whole team played like ass is not sufficient to write him off.
Nah, let's write him off instead. Then we he plays a good game we'll hop back on the bandwagon until he has another bad game. That's more fun, isn't it?
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Is young and shouldn't be the scape goat for the north loss.
Played well in his previous game. Consistency the issue.
Well said. Played well against Eagles and has been a standout for Coburg. One poor game when the whole team played like ass is not sufficient to write him off.
You tell them Richard :clapping
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Matty Dea turned 22 today :birthday.
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Delizt should be a grader by now :banghead :banghead
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Matt Dea in focus
richmondfc.com.au
October 25, 2013
Tim Clarke says: “Matty’s a star.
He got told before the season that we wanted his main focus to be improving his offensive game, and he went on to average 24-25 touches per game this year off half-back.
He consistently beat his opponent, he did everything he had to do, he just couldn’t get into the back six in our Richmond side.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-10-25/matt-dea-in-focus
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Would thinks up layers featuring in these "in focus" articles are guaranteed a spot in 2014 ;D
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Big year for Matty coming up. Needs to play regular games. I think he's a good chance to make it as he has improved noticeably every year.
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dea > houli :whistle
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Dea = the new Hodge
:shh
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I can see the headline when he captains us to a flag in 5 years time
"Matt holds Dea Cup aloft"
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What did we all think of Matty Dea's first senior game back since round 15 last year?
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Didn't notice D much. Didn't see anything really good or anything really bad, so he must have gone OK.
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Had a very solid game with first one back in the seniors, I like the boy :shh
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I like Matty Dea back in the side looks like he knows his role and is definitely not out of place...
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I have always liked Dea. Has improved noticeably every year. Hope he stays in the team as I think he can make it.
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Good game by Matty. Needs to be given an extended run in the seniors. Has speed and is more comfortable now with the ball in hand.
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Tough and tight but still not getting enough of the ball
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When u don't notice a defender in a win it's a good thing. Good hit our for first game back.
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Tough and tight but still not getting enough of the ball
Had 17 touches for a HBF , what would you expect, that's inside of 2 on league average for that possie, not bad for return to seniors in first game
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Tough and tight but still not getting enough of the ball
did you want him to go kick chasing? Not his fault GWS are worse than our vfl team. :whistle
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Goodbye Newman.
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agree tone stick with him. His a kid give him a go FFS
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First game back after a long stint out with injury.
Did more than enough to keep his spot.
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has spent too long munching the sourgrass that people here have been peeing on.
deserves kudos for his game and more credit than the duds who keep getting gifted gamed
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I like him too and think he should play but just wait until after a loss and the usual bagging will come out then
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Kid played well yesterday. Did everything asked of him in his first game back. Really glad he is one of Dimma favorites because hopefully he keeps playing him.
We are a really weak, soft, timid side, playing blokes like Dea, Thomas, Grimes and hopefully Miles gives us a much harder edge.
All I ask is we have a real go, cannot stand watching players not wanting to put their bodies on the line. I don't think that is to much to ask of elite footballers getting paid good money.
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I like him too and think he should play but just wait until after a loss and the usual bagging will come out then
dont think dea has copped too much bagging at all. most and by most id say 95% of posters have wanted him played and given a decent go.
there is a difference between bagging a player and criticising poor performance. like all of our players matt dea has deserved some criticism of his performance at times i dont think too many have called for his head though.
morris dea vlastuin makes for a harder bigger more accountable group of sml/med backs, ffs ive been calling for something like it for yrs. the other two who should be tried in the roles if they can ever get a game or show enough to get a game are mcintosh and helbig.
from what i see on these boards in the main its been perennial repeat offenders who cop the baggings. edwards vickery grigg houli and plenty other mature players have copped what they deserve.
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go back a couple pages theres a few writing him off thats for sure!
i could be wrong but i think we may have seen the worst of Dea. his decision making always let him down but yesterday i saw him win the ball in a pack situation, side step and run in between players to take the game on, then dispose of correctly. its this stuff which has let him down in the past even at training bit perhaps those days are over.
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Solid as per usual
Not soft
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go back a couple pages theres a few writing him off thats for sure!
i could be wrong but i think we may have seen the worst of Dea. his decision making always let him down but yesterday i saw him win the ball in a pack situation, side step and run in between players to take the game on, then dispose of correctly. its this stuff which has let him down in the past even at training bit perhaps those days are over.
went back 8 or 9 dooks and there is only a few posters who have called for his head. there has been some criticism of performance and that is fair enough. in the main though most have stuck with him. i dont see him copping baggings.
personally i think hes on thin ice just because of the time its taken for him to develop and try and establish himself. injury has not helped. he is what 22 been around for how many yrs? yr 4 i think. he has to show he belongs he has to establish his bonafies at the level and soon we cant wait forever.
he must like about 10 others be given the chance to show he can play at the level for his sake and ours. there are no losers here if we play him and give him opportunity.
as others have said tough good size runs straight lines can play accountable footy decent pace and does kick well. plenty to work with but its time to grasp the chance.
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Yesterday I thought was the first time he looked like a footballer at this level. Looked a lot more composed with ball in hand. Good on him.
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I really liked Deas game yesterday,seems to have added composure to his game which I have also noted in the seconds this year.
The only thing I worry about Dea is you don't get much run and carry from the back which Vlas gives you.So with Vlas out it relies on Bacha to provide that.Dont know if I want to place all my eggs in the Bacha basket.
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Drop houli ( or sub / wing
Keep mattdea and vlastuin :whistle
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done some nice things, very different player from the last time l seen him play at the top level. :thumbsup
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Kid needs to play week in week out.
Take Newman's place and make it his own.
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Thought he was very good yesterday, gave us a lot of run off HB
Good foil for Rance in that Dea playing meant we had two blokes gut running from the back half rather just having Rance
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Also nice to have two tough defenders
More so in vlastuins absence
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Played well tonight under extreme pressure and with little help. Well done!
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yeah agree one of the few who went ok and deserves his place in the side.
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Great game again last night :clapping
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I agree machine
dea has really upped his game. In the past, he could always get good numbers down in VFL but when promoted to seniors, the game seems to get too quick for him and he either can't get the ball or just panics when he gets his hands on it.
but that has changed....he's got great confidence in his game and he is reading the game, getting involved and importantly thinking through each situation and disposing of the ball with poise and skill..
well done matty....keep it up.
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One of the very few highlights last evening
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I have watched Matty in the twos this year and he seems to have added poise to his game...well done Matty
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I bagged him big time for years and I like the fact I ate humble pie last night
Has a dip and tries his best
Improved heaps
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So he had an ok game. Probably follow it up now with 3-4 bad ones
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Yeah I had started to think he wouldn't make it too...happy to be proven wrong
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The only player in the second half to actually attack a contest instead of conceding and jogging half pace (ala cotchin) and the result was a goal. It's aroma zing what can happen if you commit yourself to every contest. About time a few other more highly paid squibs gave it a try
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Mrakov we have to hang our hat on something in these barren ,desolate times for us RFC supporters,so Matty it is this week
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One of the very few highlights last evening
Definitely.
It's positives like this that we need to focus on for the rest of a lost season.
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Thught he was fantastic last night. There are more senior players who could just look at this kid and see the endeavour he brings to the table and maybe replicate that themselves.
Was stiff to have two holding the balls against him.
What will pee me off is when Newman is fit he replaces Dea in the side.
It's on thing to feel a disconnect that would just alienate even more supporters who see Dea and other kids as positives and the sole reason(s) they go to games.
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Has the potential to be a bloody good player. Will be dropped for Newy so don't get your hopes up guys. :whistle
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So he had an ok game. Probably follow it up now with 3-4 bad ones
Just stay home and tell everyone that's disconnected what they are. Troll.
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I bagged him big time for years and I like the fact I ate humble pie last night
Has a dip and tries his best
Improved heaps
Yeah I also bagged him for years but he has really improved and last night I thought he was terrific. Well done to the young bloke. Hopefully he has a long career infront of him at the Tigers.
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If I could speak to the lad I would urge him to run very fast away from punt road and don't look back as they will destroy what little dignity you have left
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He goes pretty alright this bloke don't worry about that, been wraps on him for a while, and the good news is there's a few more where he came from :shh
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Gun :bow
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Loved the way the Norf gimp held onto him for five seconds before the ball got to him and then tackled him as soon as he took possession and then the stupid stuffing umpire stuffing paid stuffing holding the ball against him.
Worst stuffing decision of the night
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The seniors don't make a newcomers welcome.
They're insecure rats who poo themselves when a new guy outplays them.
Leaders of rats
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Loved the way the Norf gimp held onto him for five seconds before the ball got to him and then tackled him as soon as he took possession and then the stupid stuffing umpire stuffing paid stuffing holding the ball against him.
Worst stuffing decision of the night
Shocking decision
Nearly as bad as the holding the ball in the goal square
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Loved the way the Norf gimp held onto him for five seconds before the ball got to him and then tackled him as soon as he took possession and then the stupid stuffing umpire stuffing paid stuffing holding the ball against him.
Worst stuffing decision of the night
Shocking decision
Nearly as bad as the holding the ball in the goal square
The umpires are clearly investing their money on something
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For those at the game, how many congratulate him on his goal? On TV it looked about 5 max. :banghead :banghead
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Worst stuffing decision of the night
And that was a very hard thing to pick among the thousand-odd crap ones the maggots made.
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HTB only applied to North ....umpires weren't the reason we lost, they never are.... but they did have a clear effect, actually thought there were a few occassions in the second half were our players turned it over getting the ball out when they should've of just taken the tackle or locked it in because they were second guessing the umpires and assuming they'd be pinged
For those at the game, how many congratulate him on his goal? On TV it looked about 5 max. :banghead :banghead
Yeah that was about right, to be fair though - wasn't really the time to be going too over the top with celebrations & congratulations.
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Don't mind admitting I liked the kid for a while... :whistle.
Quote from: big tone on May 19, 2013, 09:24:11 AM
Matt Dea IMO is going to be a very good player for this club in the future. He has what it takes to be a very hard at it half back flanker in the mould of a Corey Enright type from Geelong. He is brave, can play tall and small and can take a nice grab. IMO he is tracking well, learning the game with each time he goes out there. As for his kicking, take a good look today and take your assessment from today and onwards and not from what you may have seen two years ago or from what others say from two years ago..
I think as supporters we are really quick to pidgin hole our young talent, am I am guilty of it too but what we should do is, every time a young guy comes in after some time at Coburg is access them with a clean slate, if they do the same things as before then maybe they are still learning but people can change thing in there games and some take time. Remember that is what playing at Coburg is for.
Really looking forward to seeing him today and seeing how he has progressed and seeing the Tiges smash the Dees.
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Don't mind admitting I liked the kid for a while... :whistle.
Quote from: big tone on May 19, 2013, 09:24:11 AM
What, one year ago? This is his 5th year at the club, it's not like you've been there for the long haul.
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and the good news is there's a few more where he came from :shh
Such as???
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Don't mind admitting I liked the kid for a while... :whistle.
Quote from: big tone on May 19, 2013, 09:24:11 AM
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Don't mind admitting I liked the kid for a while... :whistle.
Quote from: big tone on May 19, 2013, 09:24:11 AM
Matt Dea IMO is going to be a very good player for this club in the future. He has what it takes to be a very hard at it half back flanker in the mould of a Corey Enright type from Geelong. He is brave, can play tall and small and can take a nice grab. IMO he is tracking well, learning the game with each time he goes out there. As for his kicking, take a good look today and take your assessment from today and onwards and not from what you may have seen two years ago or from what others say from two years ago..
I think as supporters we are really quick to pidgin hole our young talent, am I am guilty of it too but what we should do is, every time a young guy comes in after some time at Coburg is access them with a clean slate, if they do the same things as before then maybe they are still learning but people can change thing in there games and some take time. Remember that is what playing at Coburg is for.
Really looking forward to seeing him today and seeing how he has progressed and seeing the Tiges smash the Dees.
I been a fan since miller?jackson? Was hiding behind the trees watching the young basketballer strut his stuff :shh
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as a person who has always valued very highly 2nd and 3rd round picks i was angry when we drafted him.
late to footy baskeyball ground with some catching up to do. to me shoulkd have been a late nd pick or rookie pick.
got into some pretty heated debates with a very astute poster who insisted he was well worth the risk. so i stopped arguing and went and found every single thing i could on matty dea.
what i found convinced me he was worth taking i still wasnt sure it should have been pick 44. but at least i was prepared to give him some time and watched him as closely as i could.
for me hes shown more and more glimpses mixed in with injury and very poor form, but he ws going to take a little time.
for me this yr remains make or break for him i cant say if he will make it or not but the signs are good and those glimpses are becoming consistent. hope he makes it but he still has plenty to prove to show that he has.
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Coming along very nicely is matty dea Ty :clapping
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as a person who has always valued very highly 2nd and 3rd round picks i was angry when we drafted him.
late to footy baskeyball ground with some catching up to do. to me shoulkd have been a late nd pick or rookie pick.
got into some pretty heated debates with a very astute poster who insisted he was well worth the risk. so i stopped arguing and went and found every single thing i could on matty dea.
what i found convinced me he was worth taking i still wasnt sure it should have been pick 44. but at least i was prepared to give him some time and watched him as closely as i could.
for me hes shown more and more glimpses mixed in with injury and very poor form, but he ws going to take a little time.
for me this yr remains make or break for him i cant say if he will make it or not but the signs are good and those glimpses are becoming consistent. hope he makes it but he still has plenty to prove to show that he has.
From what I've heard two teams would have taken him before our pick at 50 or 51 (whatever it was) It's a shame he's been injured. I'm waiting for him to be dropped for Newy soon.
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as a person who has always valued very highly 2nd and 3rd round picks i was angry when we drafted him.
late to footy baskeyball ground with some catching up to do. to me shoulkd have been a late nd pick or rookie pick.
got into some pretty heated debates with a very astute poster who insisted he was well worth the risk. so i stopped arguing and went and found every single thing i could on matty dea.
what i found convinced me he was worth taking i still wasnt sure it should have been pick 44. but at least i was prepared to give him some time and watched him as closely as i could.
for me hes shown more and more glimpses mixed in with injury and very poor form, but he ws going to take a little time.
for me this yr remains make or break for him i cant say if he will make it or not but the signs are good and those glimpses are becoming consistent. hope he makes it but he still has plenty to prove to show that he has.
From what I've heard two teams would have taken him before our pick at 50 or 51 (whatever it was) It's a shame he's been injured. I'm waiting for him to be dropped for Newy soon.
it seems just about every draft i hear this dribble. oh we took so ans here because it was thought this club or that club would take him in front of us.
what the hell sort of process is that. we take him at 44 when we probably rate him to go later. imo worrying about what other clubs may or may not do on draft day is not the way to go.
do your homework rate each player and take em accordingly. how many players have we reached for under jackson that we know of? too many id say.
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as a person who has always valued very highly 2nd and 3rd round picks i was angry when we drafted him.
late to footy baskeyball ground with some catching up to do. to me shoulkd have been a late nd pick or rookie pick.
got into some pretty heated debates with a very astute poster who insisted he was well worth the risk. so i stopped arguing and went and found every single thing i could on matty dea.
what i found convinced me he was worth taking i still wasnt sure it should have been pick 44. but at least i was prepared to give him some time and watched him as closely as i could.
for me hes shown more and more glimpses mixed in with injury and very poor form, but he ws going to take a little time.
for me this yr remains make or break for him i cant say if he will make it or not but the signs are good and those glimpses are becoming consistent. hope he makes it but he still has plenty to prove to show that he has.
From what I've heard two teams would have taken him before our pick at 50 or 51 (whatever it was) It's a shame he's been injured. I'm waiting for him to be dropped for Newy soon.
it seems just about every draft i hear this dribble. oh we took so ans here because it was thought this club or that club would take him in front of us.
what the hell sort of process is that. we take him at 44 when we probably rate him to go later. imo worrying about what other clubs may or may not do on draft day is not the way to go.
do your homework rate each player and take em accordingly. how many players have we reached for under jackson that we know of? too many id say.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying 2 teams would have taken him if we hadn't so it's not like we reached for him by taking him where we wanted him.
You keep going on about how we could take so and so with a late pick when in reality they probably won't be there.
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do your homework rate each player and take em accordingly. how many players have we reached for under jackson that we know of? too many id say.
Very well put. We seem to jump at shadows every draft and stretch for players. The 2013 draft I fear will go down as one of our worst in history for that very reason.
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do your homework rate each player and take em accordingly. how many players have we reached for under jackson that we know of? too many id say.
Very well put. We seem to jump at shadows every draft and stretch for players. The 2013 draft I fear will go down as one of our worst in history for that very reason.
You mean only one 18 year-old, a recycled 8-year failure, a SANFL player that was delisted from an AFL list three years ago after 2 games and a country footballer from the VFL wooden spooners - all over 24? C'mon, what's not to like?
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Don't stress. We don't need youth.
The list is awesome as is
Might as well pass on the next draft
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Oh look at least we brought in Thomas to cover for the loss of Lonergan.
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Reminds me of 2002 draft/trade with Fleming, Nicholls and Blumfield in because we were in such good shape. That went well didn't it....
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I like how we choose not to partake in the 01 super draft outside theislander midget
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do your homework rate each player and take em accordingly. how many players have we reached for under jackson that we know of? too many id say.
Very well put. We seem to jump at shadows every draft and stretch for players. The 2013 draft I fear will go down as one of our worst in history for that very reason.
You mean only one 18 year-old, a recycled 8-year failure, a SANFL player that was delisted from an AFL list three years ago after 2 games and a country footballer from the VFL wooden spooners - all over 24? C'mon, what's not to like?
id argue gordon and lloyd would have been worth taking a chance on as rookie picks. wait a minute i argued exactly what you posted all thru trade period and off season.
it still rankles me that we only took one kid in the entire trade and nd period and was forced to defend my stance, seems a lot are coming round eh.
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do your homework rate each player and take em accordingly. how many players have we reached for under jackson that we know of? too many id say.
Very well put. We seem to jump at shadows every draft and stretch for players. The 2013 draft I fear will go down as one of our worst in history for that very reason.
You mean only one 18 year-old, a recycled 8-year failure, a SANFL player that was delisted from an AFL list three years ago after 2 games and a country footballer from the VFL wooden spooners - all over 24? C'mon, what's not to like?
id argue gordon and lloyd would have been worth taking a chance on as rookie picks. wait a minute i argued exactly what you posted all thru trade period and off season.
it still rankles me that we only took one kid in the entire trade and nd period and was forced to defend my stance, seems a lot are coming round eh.
I argued the same....was another cherry ripe locked and loaded off-season. Could see the year we've had coming a mile off, because we've all seen it happen before.
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as a person who has always valued very highly 2nd and 3rd round picks i was angry when we drafted him.
late to footy baskeyball ground with some catching up to do. to me shoulkd have been a late nd pick or rookie pick.
got into some pretty heated debates with a very astute poster who insisted he was well worth the risk. so i stopped arguing and went and found every single thing i could on matty dea.
what i found convinced me he was worth taking i still wasnt sure it should have been pick 44. but at least i was prepared to give him some time and watched him as closely as i could.
for me hes shown more and more glimpses mixed in with injury and very poor form, but he ws going to take a little time.
for me this yr remains make or break for him i cant say if he will make it or not but the signs are good and those glimpses are becoming consistent. hope he makes it but he still has plenty to prove to show that he has.
From what I've heard two teams would have taken him before our pick at 50 or 51 (whatever it was) It's a shame he's been injured. I'm waiting for him to be dropped for Newy soon.
it seems just about every draft i hear this dribble. oh we took so ans here because it was thought this club or that club would take him in front of us.
what the hell sort of process is that. we take him at 44 when we probably rate him to go later. imo worrying about what other clubs may or may not do on draft day is not the way to go.
do your homework rate each player and take em accordingly. how many players have we reached for under jackson that we know of? too many id say.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying 2 teams would have taken him if we hadn't so it's not like we reached for him by taking him where we wanted him.
You keep going on about how we could take so and so with a late pick when in reality they probably won't be there.
oh cmon its exactly what your saying. matty came from a limited footy background he was touted as possibly a late nd rookie pick that is if you can find anybody at all who knew who he was. and we hear a few rumours panic and take him at pick 44. so what if he goes before pick 44 there were still decent players to be had.
just like the club you have no idea where other clubs would have taken dea even if they had him in their sights.
he didnt rate a 3rnd pick thats for sure.
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I like how we choose not to partake in the 01 super draft outside theislander midget
S you still haven't got over 2001 , move on :lol
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I like how we choose not to partake in the 01 super draft outside theislander midget
S you still haven't got over 2001 , move on :lol
Agree. Who needs to dwell on the 2001 draft when we basically repeated that stuff up only last year?
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I like how we choose not to partake in the 01 super draft outside theislander midget
S you still haven't got over 2001 , move on :lol
it seems its exactly this attitude the club has. maybe thats why we keep on making the same mistakes over and over never learning a thing.
we should never get over any thing remotely resembling mediocrity until we actually fix the problem.
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VIDEO: Dea adds dash ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-06-19/deas-defensive-desire
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Just an good honest footballer is Matty Dea. Well done son.
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would love to see matt make it.At this stage I reckon he is doing just enough to hold his spot....Still has lots of improvement to do
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Having a massive dip.
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Yep loving his work tonight
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Stuff me this bloke has some massive nurries.
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I like how we choose not to partake in the 01 super draft outside theislander midget
S you still haven't got over 2001 , move on :lol
it seems its exactly this attitude the club has. maybe thats why we keep on making the same mistakes over and over never learning a thing.
we should never get over any thing remotely resembling mediocrity until we actually fix the problem.
Yea like we should have followed your advice and drafted Tom Lee :ROTFL :dancing :thatsgold
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one costly error but he has a massive dip. have to respect the courage :bow
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Didn't agree subbing him.
Is Shane Edwards in the country. He was meant to be playing tonight
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Didn't agree subbing him.
Is Shane Edwards in the country. He was meant to be playing tonight
good call pope a loupe
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Gun
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made the wrong call Hardwick. They got right on top of us. BAD CALL
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Persevere with him for sure..but I thought Vlas did better when he went down back
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Dea was very unlucky to be subbed tonight. Wrong call. Dea unfortunately has a knack of making a bad mistake look worse than it probably really was. It was a complete overreaction to sub him off, he was playing well.
S..Edwards, Hampson and Batchelor were doing nothing, Dea was influencing the game.
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was ridiculous subbing him off, its no coincidence that their smallish/medium fleet got off the leash as soon as he went off. If dimma subbed him for that dropped mark then hes an even bigger dh than I thought
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Like everyone else here I thought it was rough he got subbed off. I would've taken S.Edwards or A.Edwards off. Shane didnt' have much impact and aaron went missing after taking the specky
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Played ok but still Akes monumental stuff ups......has a crack that's for sure
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Batch or A Edwards for mine should have been subbed
Grimes did OK but stuff me when he was chasing Gooodes he looked like a senior citizen jogging
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He refused to take the red vest when subbed off
Clearly not happy
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Another very solid game from Dea. Hard and tough and wins one on one contests. :clapping
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Batch or A Edwards for mine should have been subbed
Grimes did OK but stuff me when he was chasing Gooodes he looked like a senior citizen jogging
Someone should've given him a motorised cart because he would've been quicker
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Another very solid game from Dea. Hard and tough and wins one on one contests. :clapping
Agree gives his all and is brave and made the mistake of dropping the mark resulting in the Sydney goal but is a definite keeper. Good far outweighs any negatives.
Sadly Dumma is going to make him the scapegoat for the loss this week. :help
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Batch or A Edwards for mine should have been subbed
Grimes did OK but stuff me when he was chasing Gooodes he looked like a senior citizen jogging
Rance gave Goodes a smack in the back of the head after that run ;D Yes Grimes got caught bigtime. Too many Richmond players chasing kicks
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He was very good last night. Thought his run was instrumental in maintaining defensive pressure and clearing the ball from half back. I really liked his aggression. Which is probably why I was amazed that he was subbed for Thomas. Our biggest advantage over the swans was speed because they had stupidly gone so tall and had injuries during the match, and we sub a quick for a slow. Unbelievable.
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How he was subbed ahead of Edwards was plain BS :banghead
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How he was subbed ahead of Edwards was plain BS :banghead
Or Batchelor. :banghead
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Poor coaching move to sub him. At the game I assumed he must have been injured! I was shocked when I found out he wasn't!
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batchelor was the one who should have been subbed. geez hes ordinary.
like everyone else was shocked dea was subbed out.
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I'm not a fan. Just don't see him making it.
Poor football instincts and ordinary skills.
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I'm not a fan. Just don't see him making it.
Poor football instincts and ordinary skills.
I'm inclined to agree.
Still like him better than Houli though....
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So much less soft than houli its ridiculous
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Play him the rest of the year so at least a proper decision can be made on him, at least he has a dip
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He can play a bit this kid , the same people were roundly criticizing rance when I went the early crow on him ...keep your powder dry on this kid, had less clangers than Martin and cotch on the weekend :shh
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He can play a bit this kid , the same people were roundly criticizing rance when I went the early crow on him ...keep your powder dry on this kid, had less clangers than Martin and cotch on the weekend :shh
He alshad a lot less disposals... :shh
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Dea's determination ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-03-10/deas-determination
* The hamstring injury a little bit frustrating. I got a good start to the pre-season and then had a little hammy issue that’s kept me down for a few weeks. It’s a long season ahead that I need to be right for. So I’ve been cautious at this stage, just trying to get on top of the hammy and then be right for the whole year hopefully. Over the next two to three weeks, I’ll build up some speed running and just keep working hard on my strength in the gym and then hopefully play a game which would be nice. I think I’ll be struggling to get a NAB Cup game in but there’s a VFL practice game in between the end of NAB and start of Round 1, so that’d be great to get.
* At the end of the day I got dropped [in round 16 after playing 7 games straight], but I had some good continuity in there. I’m looking forward to hopefully playing a few more this year.
* I think naturally, I’m a bit better at playing that lockdown role but I do like having the footy in my hands. I think I’ve become a better kick, so I’m definitely more confident with the footy. I’m more than happy to try and get a few more touches.
* At the start of pre-season, I wanted to play every game. I wanted to start Round 1 and hold that throughout the year. But obviously now, with a little bit of a setback, I think I’ll just try and get into the senior side as early as I can and hold out the rest of the year and hopefully play a finals game. I haven’t done that yet, so I’d really love to be part of a finals side.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-03-10/deatermination-the-name-of-the-game-
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Not really sure where his future lies actually... :-\
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Dealisted.
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Some very negative posting going on here.
Give Dea a chance
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Peter Burge said Dea's hammy is a kicking-related one rather than the typical running-related injury. So they're going to be cautious with it. Dea's doing a lot of conditioning so hasn't missed much there but they are going to manage his kicking program as he joins the main group.
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Some very negative posting going on here.
Give Dea a chance
Deanoted
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Peter Burge said Dea's hammy is a kicking-related one rather than the typical running-related injury. So they're going to be cautious with it. Dea's doing a lot of conditioning so hasn't missed much there but they are going to manage his kicking program as he joins the main group.
:huh3 :huh3
Does this mean he has to change his kicking style? And if he does how do they go about implementing it in game situations?
:huh3
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i assume he is gone years end
bit of a shame i would have liked to see him tried
hope he gets a got at a st kilda or something
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Couple of posters over at Big Footy reckon he's quitting football at the end of the year to join the police force.
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What a dumbass
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Couple of posters over at Big Footy reckon he's quitting football at the end of the year to join the police force.
Should be good at that, they do stuff all too!!!
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How is this bloke tracking at EFC? when I check just results he is getting a kick.
Any one actually watching enough to see if he is doing anything?
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How is this bloke tracking at EFC? when I check just results he is getting a kick.
Any one actually watching enough to see if he is doing anything?
With the ball spending most of the time in Essendon's back half :lol, Dea has been getting plenty of it so far. His strengths are his hands and his marking, so that's why. The problem with Dea was his decision making coming out of defence where he would make goal-costing turnovers. Essendon, though, don't have other options, so he'll probably play most of the season in the seniors for them. Bomber fans like him already.
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I'm wishing him all the best. Starved of consistent opportunity at RFC. Hope he does well.
Had a very solid game against WCE whilst EFC got a toweling the other night.
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I'm wishing him all the best. Starved of consistent opportunity at RFC. Hope he does well.
Had a very solid game against WCE whilst EFC got a toweling the other night.
Still looked arse to me. Nothing player.
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Yep very very average
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hows he travelling? worse than your grigg and hunt types im guessing :shh
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Reckon Dea has more upside to Astbury.
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Reckon Dea has more upside to Astbury.
na rubbish. Was hopeless at coburg and has showed nothing compared to THunt.
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26 disposals and 15 marks vs StKilda. And actually a good qualitative game.
We kept Hunt. And let him go
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26 disposals and 15 marks vs StKilda. And actually a good qualitative game.
We kept Hunt. And let him go
Yep, and no one else decided to pick him up either, until the WADA finding, preferring to keep their own duds on the list.
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Dea is no worse than grigg Bach Morris hunt ...
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26 disposals and 15 marks vs StKilda. And actually a good qualitative game.
We kept Hunt. And let him go
Yep, and no one else decided to pick him up either, until the WADA finding, preferring to keep their own duds on the list.
Except we had to decide to let him go after closely monitoring him.
AND not redraft him like everyone else.
AND hes not a dud. But we knew that with him in house and all ::)
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Reckon Dea has more upside to Astbury.
na rubbish. Was hopeless at coburg and has showed nothing compared to THunt.
Week after week he was listed in the best in the VFL last year. Was really consistent. Astbury - Meh.
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26 disposals and 15 marks vs StKilda. And actually a good qualitative game.
We kept Hunt. And let him go
Yep, and no one else decided to pick him up either, until the WADA finding, preferring to keep their own duds on the list.
What does that say about us re: our drafting
Another thing is Dea never got a descent crack at senior football like the duds on our list have
I doubt that
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Reckon Dea has more upside to Astbury.
na rubbish. Was hopeless at coburg and has showed nothing compared to THunt.
Week after week he was listed in the best in the VFL last year. Was really consistent. Astbury - Meh.
Sounds familiar
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Appeared that Dea found his level and unfortunately it wasn't AFL. Still should have gotten a better crack though
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Appeared that Dea found his level and unfortunately it wasn't AFL. Still should have gotten a better crack though
He's going well at afl level
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They love him over at bomberblitz .
They hope he stays on the list next year.
Reckon we're idiots for letting him go , think he's a perfect replacement for Chaplin.
http://www.bomberblitz.com/discussion/discussion/3490/welcome-to-essendon-matt-dea-barracked-for-us-as-a-kid/p14
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And they'd be right
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They love him over at bomberblitz .
They hope he stays on the list next year.
Reckon we're idiots for letting him go , think he's a perfect replacement for Chaplin.
http://www.bomberblitz.com/discussion/discussion/3490/welcome-to-essendon-matt-dea-barracked-for-us-as-a-kid/p14
At 186cm?
I don't think he can be a KPB at that height. He and Batchelor are interchangeable but at 188cm, Batch is a little taller and still can't play on talls.
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They love him over at bomberblitz .
They hope he stays on the list next year.
Reckon we're idiots for letting him go , think he's a perfect replacement for Chaplin.
http://www.bomberblitz.com/discussion/discussion/3490/welcome-to-essendon-matt-dea-barracked-for-us-as-a-kid/p14
At 186cm?
I don't think he can be a KPB at that height. He and Batchelor are interchangeable but at 188cm, Batch is a little taller and still can't play on talls.
Bachelor plays on resting ruckman when Dimma wills it ...
Dea can play tall
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They love him over at bomberblitz .
They hope he stays on the list next year.
Reckon we're idiots for letting him go , think he's a perfect replacement for Chaplin.
http://www.bomberblitz.com/discussion/discussion/3490/welcome-to-essendon-matt-dea-barracked-for-us-as-a-kid/p14
At 186cm?
I don't think he can be a KPB at that height. He and Batchelor are interchangeable but at 188cm, Batch is a little taller and still can't play on talls.
Chaplin never really plays a KPB roll. He plays a "drop off" defender usually on the 3rd tall.
At his best he did it pretty well IMO but those days are long gone. Dea is s better player than Batch and Astbury and has more up side to improve as well. He is a much better athlete which give him the option to play on different sorts of opposition. The other two are one dimensional to put it nicely and not even AFL standard in that.
Dimma wasn't a fan of his it's that simple. If you think personalitys don't play a roll than your wrong.
I hope he gets better and better and makes Dimma look like a bigger DHead than most already think he is.
Astbury and Batch are both depth players and if it were up to me I'd probably get rid of both at seasons end.
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They love him over at bomberblitz .
They hope he stays on the list next year.
Reckon we're idiots for letting him go , think he's a perfect replacement for Chaplin.
http://www.bomberblitz.com/discussion/discussion/3490/welcome-to-essendon-matt-dea-barracked-for-us-as-a-kid/p14
At 186cm?
I don't think he can be a KPB at that height. He and Batchelor are interchangeable but at 188cm, Batch is a little taller and still can't play on talls.
Chaplin never really plays a KPB roll. He plays a "drop off" defender usually on the 3rd tall.
At his best he did it pretty well IMO but those days are long gone. Dea is s better player than Batch and Astbury and has more up side to improve as well. He is a much better athlete which give him the option to play on different sorts of opposition. The other two are one dimensional to put it nicely and not even AFL standard in that.
Dimma wasn't a fan of his it's that simple. If you think personalitys don't play a roll than your wrong.
I hope he gets better and better and makes Dimma look like a bigger DHead than most already think he is.
Astbury and Batch are both depth players and if it were up to me I'd probably get rid of both at seasons end.
My point is we need another capable tall down back. We don't need another Dea or Batchelor. When opposition forward lines have two good talls, we struggle. Look at North. They have both Waite and Brown. Rance is shorter than both and can only play on one at a time. That's why I wanted them to give Elton more of a go last year to see if he played better with better players around him. Instead he got just one game and was banished after being played on an in form Cloke.
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They love him over at bomberblitz .
They hope he stays on the list next year.
Reckon we're idiots for letting him go , think he's a perfect replacement for Chaplin.
http://www.bomberblitz.com/discussion/discussion/3490/welcome-to-essendon-matt-dea-barracked-for-us-as-a-kid/p14
At 186cm?
I don't think he can be a KPB at that height. He and Batchelor are interchangeable but at 188cm, Batch is a little taller and still can't play on talls.
Chaplin never really plays a KPB roll. He plays a "drop off" defender usually on the 3rd tall.
At his best he did it pretty well IMO but those days are long gone. Dea is s better player than Batch and Astbury and has more up side to improve as well. He is a much better athlete which give him the option to play on different sorts of opposition. The other two are one dimensional to put it nicely and not even AFL standard in that.
Dimma wasn't a fan of his it's that simple. If you think personalitys don't play a roll than your wrong.
I hope he gets better and better and makes Dimma look like a bigger DHead than most already think he is.
Astbury and Batch are both depth players and if it were up to me I'd probably get rid of both at seasons end.
My point is we need another capable tall down back. We don't need another Dea or Batchelor. When opposition forward lines have two good talls, we struggle. Look at North. They have both Waite and Brown. Rance is shorter than both and can only play on one at a time. That's why I wanted them to give Elton more of a go last year to see if he played better with better players around him. Instead he got just one game and was banished after being played on an in form Cloke.
What has your point got to do with Dea?
No doubt we need another decent KPD (Hurley)but Dea would take Batch's roll.
Dea can play on the 3rd tall but also on a medium and small forward. A bit like Grimes can.
Both Grimes and Dea could play in the same backline along with Rance and a Hurley type.
Hawthorn play this type of set up with no real monster KD and do pretty well. :shh
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They love him over at bomberblitz .
They hope he stays on the list next year.
Reckon we're idiots for letting him go , think he's a perfect replacement for Chaplin.
http://www.bomberblitz.com/discussion/discussion/3490/welcome-to-essendon-matt-dea-barracked-for-us-as-a-kid/p14
At 186cm?
I don't think he can be a KPB at that height. He and Batchelor are interchangeable but at 188cm, Batch is a little taller and still can't play on talls.
Chaplin never really plays a KPB roll. He plays a "drop off" defender usually on the 3rd tall.
At his best he did it pretty well IMO but those days are long gone. Dea is s better player than Batch and Astbury and has more up side to improve as well. He is a much better athlete which give him the option to play on different sorts of opposition. The other two are one dimensional to put it nicely and not even AFL standard in that.
Dimma wasn't a fan of his it's that simple. If you think personalitys don't play a roll than your wrong.
I hope he gets better and better and makes Dimma look like a bigger DHead than most already think he is.
Astbury and Batch are both depth players and if it were up to me I'd probably get rid of both at seasons end.
My point is we need another capable tall down back. We don't need another Dea or Batchelor. When opposition forward lines have two good talls, we struggle. Look at North. They have both Waite and Brown. Rance is shorter than both and can only play on one at a time. That's why I wanted them to give Elton more of a go last year to see if he played better with better players around him. Instead he got just one game and was banished after being played on an in form Cloke.
What has your point got to do with Dea?
No doubt we need another decent KPD (Hurley)but Dea would take Batch's roll.
Dea can play on the 3rd tall but also on a medium and small forward. A bit like Grimes can.
Both Grimes and Dea could play in the same backline along with Rance and a Hurley type.
Hawthorn play this type of set up with no real monster KD and do pretty well. :shh
my point goes back to the original post which said he could replace Chaplin. I just don't think he plays that role.
Anyway, it's too late. We delisted him. Last year when Newman was spudding it up I wanted us to play Dea. They didn't and it's history.
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I'd be guessing Y&BB would be alluding to the fact that Dea isn't a solve for our list gaps down back.
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Who is then? Morris, Batchelor??
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Dea >>>
Houli
Bach
Chappy
Morris
Hunt
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Dea >>>
Houli
Bach
Chappy
Morris
Hunt
Agreed. Not one of those guys has any up side and yet we delist Dea.
Anyway it's history now but I still hope he sticks it up Dimma's arse.
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I'd be guessing Y&BB would be alluding to the fact that Dea isn't a solve for our list gaps down back.
It's rather obvious Dea isn't a key back given his size
Yet he can play tall ...
As opposed to troy.
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Dea >>>
Houli
Bach
Chappy
Morris
Hunt
Agreed. Not of of those guys has any up side and yet we delist Dea.
Anyway it's history now but I still hope he sticks it up Dimma's arse.
You could throw a blanket over all of them although I'd say Houli is the best of that lot.
It doesn't make Dea the answer nor does it justify keeping the others.
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Dea was a bad de-listing.
Strong physique, great mark, courageous, good foot skills.
Said it before - great pickup by the Bombers. Deserves his chance and is making the most of it. All he needed was a good consistent run of games that blokes like Vickery were gifted.
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Dea was a bad de-listing.
Strong physique, great mark, courageous, good foot skills.
Said it before - great pickup by the Bombers. Deserves his chance and is making the most of it. All he needed was a good consistent run of games that blokes like Vickery were gifted.
dont stop at vickery. Grigg, Edwards the lot of them were average in the early days and some still are, yet were given a great run at it.
Can someone tell me how many consecutive games Dea was given at our club.
Not saying he will end up a great find by the bombers but stuff his better than about 6 of them we have playing seniors now
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Dea was a bad de-listing.
Strong physique, great mark, courageous, good foot skills.
Said it before - great pickup by the Bombers. Deserves his chance and is making the most of it. All he needed was a good consistent run of games that blokes like Vickery were gifted.
25 games in 6 years with average of 10 touches.
A good de-listing, we just don't get rid of enough of these under performers quickly enough
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Has come on well, we should offer Essendon a 2nd round draft pick for him.
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The idea he could have replaced chaplin is not too far off the mark, if you understand what we recruited chaplin for.
BT is on the money with half (most?) of what chaplin does
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Dea was a bad de-listing.
Strong physique, great mark, courageous, good foot skills.
Said it before - great pickup by the Bombers. Deserves his chance and is making the most of it. All he needed was a good consistent run of games that blokes like Vickery were gifted.
25 games in 6 years with average of 10 touches.
A good de-listing, we just don't get rid of enough of these under performers quickly enough
Crap post, typical junk about statistics.
Was our VFL B&F for 2015 yet didn't manage a single game at AFL level since mid-2014 despite deserving it. At least the Bombers could see the form he was in and picked him up.
If you care so much about stats he's averaging about 15 touches and 8.5 marks this year. Very serviceable compared to the likes of Taylor Hunt. Harder man too.
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Dea was a bad de-listing.
Strong physique, great mark, courageous, good foot skills.
Said it before - great pickup by the Bombers. Deserves his chance and is making the most of it. All he needed was a good consistent run of games that blokes like Vickery were gifted.
25 games in 6 years with average of 10 touches.
A good de-listing, we just don't get rid of enough of these under performers quickly enough
How are Astbury and Batchelor going in the stats department?
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Dea was a bad de-listing.
Strong physique, great mark, courageous, good foot skills.
Said it before - great pickup by the Bombers. Deserves his chance and is making the most of it. All he needed was a good consistent run of games that blokes like Vickery were gifted.
25 games in 6 years with average of 10 touches.
A good de-listing, we just don't get rid of enough of these under performers quickly enough
Crap post, typical junk about statistics.
Was our VFL B&F for 2015 yet didn't manage a single game at AFL level since mid-2014 despite deserving it. At least the Bombers could see the form he was in and picked him up.
If you care so much about stats he's averaging about 15 touches and 8.5 marks this year. Very serviceable compared to the likes of Taylor Hunt. Harder man too.
:clapping
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The idea he could have replaced chaplin is not too far off the mark, if you understand what we recruited chaplin for.
BT is on the money with half (most?) of what chaplin does
My memory of the recruitment of Chaplin was to help out Rance with the big gorilla forwards. At least that is what we were told initially.
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The idea he could have replaced chaplin is not too far off the mark, if you understand what we recruited chaplin for.
BT is on the money with half (most?) of what chaplin does
My memory of the recruitment of Chaplin was to help out Rance with the big gorilla forwards. At least that is what we were told initially.
Yes that is my recollection also
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Dea was a bad de-listing.
Strong physique, great mark, courageous, good foot skills.
Said it before - great pickup by the Bombers. Deserves his chance and is making the most of it. All he needed was a good consistent run of games that blokes like Vickery were gifted.
25 games in 6 years with average of 10 touches.
A good de-listing, we just don't get rid of enough of these under performers quickly enough
Crap post, typical junk about statistics.
Was our VFL B&F for 2015 yet didn't manage a single game at AFL level since mid-2014 despite deserving it. At least the Bombers could see the form he was in and picked him up.
If you care so much about stats he's averaging about 15 touches and 8.5 marks this year. Very serviceable compared to the likes of Taylor Hunt. Harder man too.
:clapping
Neither are good enough to play AFL standard over a long period of time. If he was AFL ready why was he picked up so late.
Good luck to him but I'm glad he was delisted last year, I'd hope they go deeper this year.
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The idea he could have replaced chaplin is not too far off the mark, if you understand what we recruited chaplin for.
BT is on the money with half (most?) of what chaplin does
My memory of the recruitment of Chaplin was to help out Rance with the big gorilla forwards. At least that is what we were told initially.
Yes that is my recollection also
that was the talk on this forum, but i dont believe the club ever said that.
That wasnt his role at Port either.
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The idea he could have replaced chaplin is not too far off the mark, if you understand what we recruited chaplin for.
BT is on the money with half (most?) of what chaplin does
My memory of the recruitment of Chaplin was to help out Rance with the big gorilla forwards. At least that is what we were told initially.
Yes that is my recollection also
that was the talk on this forum, but i dont believe the club ever said that.
That wasnt his role at Port either.
No.It was all over the media at the time.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-2012-report-card/story-fnff72fs-1226466731805
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The idea he could have replaced chaplin is not too far off the mark, if you understand what we recruited chaplin for.
BT is on the money with half (most?) of what chaplin does
He was mostly right but he does also go to talls at stages, especially when there's two good ones floating around. Can Dea do that?
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he would struggle more, granted, but he would give better drive.
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The idea he could have replaced chaplin is not too far off the mark, if you understand what we recruited chaplin for.
BT is on the money with half (most?) of what chaplin does
My memory of the recruitment of Chaplin was to help out Rance with the big gorilla forwards. At least that is what we were told initially.
Yes that is my recollection also
that was the talk on this forum, but i dont believe the club ever said that.
That wasnt his role at Port either.
No.It was all over the media at the time.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-2012-report-card/story-fnff72fs-1226466731805
Is there a quote from the club in there, or just robbo's opinion?
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OH DEAR OIH DEAR. Should one make comment ??? Na not worth the lost time that would ensue. :snidegrin
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The idea he could have replaced chaplin is not too far off the mark, if you understand what we recruited chaplin for.
BT is on the money with half (most?) of what chaplin does
My memory of the recruitment of Chaplin was to help out Rance with the big gorilla forwards. At least that is what we were told initially.
Yes that is my recollection also
that was the talk on this forum, but i dont believe the club ever said that.
That wasnt his role at Port either.
No.It was all over the media at the time.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-2012-report-card/story-fnff72fs-1226466731805
Is there a quote from the club in there, or just robbo's opinion?
The no was referring to you saying it was talk on this forum only.
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Yeh he was brilliant LMAO
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The idea he could have replaced chaplin is not too far off the mark, if you understand what we recruited chaplin for.
BT is on the money with half (most?) of what chaplin does
My memory of the recruitment of Chaplin was to help out Rance with the big gorilla forwards. At least that is what we were told initially.
Yes that is my recollection also
that was the talk on this forum, but i dont believe the club ever said that.
That wasnt his role at Port either.
No.It was all over the media at the time.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-2012-report-card/story-fnff72fs-1226466731805
Is there a quote from the club in there, or just robbo's opinion?
The no was referring to you saying it was talk on this forum only.
:lol
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Dodged a bullett here.
We gave him ample opportunities but still wasn't up to it
Good move dimwit
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Moving forward... one half step at a time :shh
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At least he tried
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At least he tried
He tried at coburg as that's where dimwit played him the majority of times
He is proven he is a descent player and a much better one than hunt and yarran
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At least he tried
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/12/17/241BA4A500000578-2876849-Bundaberg_Rum_s_humorous_jingle_Men_Like_US_also_made_it_into_th-a-1_1418789960230.jpg)
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OK now the seasons done and dusted we can take a look at Matt Dea having his best season after playing 21 games for the druggo's. Was he really given a decent go here? It's now proven given a decent go his stats improve, enough for Essendrug to resign him. Is Dimma a dimwit on this one? Or has he peaked and is he just an average player now at best. Only avg 17 disposals but it's 5 better than his best at the RFC.
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Meh just another player we would need to move on in the future if he was still on the list
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Another angle on it is Matt Dea the poster boy for our under performing development team at the RFC. He improved 5 posses or 50% in a year under someone else. Maybe the review was right to sack all the development staff.
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Another angle on it is Matt Dea the poster boy for our under performing development team at the RFC. He improved 5 posses or 50% in a year under someone else. Maybe the review was right to sack all the development staff.
:clapping 100% spot on...development and assistant coaches were under performing and rightly got shown the door.
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Another angle on it is Matt Dea the poster boy for our under performing development team at the RFC. He improved 5 posses or 50% in a year under someone else. Maybe the review was right to sack all the development staff.
:clapping 100% spot on...development and assistant coaches were under performing and rightly got shown the door.
yet the architect in all of it is still sitting pretty in the top job.
only at richmond
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Another angle on it is Matt Dea the poster boy for our under performing development team at the RFC. He improved 5 posses or 50% in a year under someone else. Maybe the review was right to sack all the development staff.
:clapping 100% spot on...development and assistant coaches were under performing and rightly got shown the door.
yet the architect in all of it is still sitting pretty in the top job.
only at richmond
Yes sometimes this is the case with management structures. Very difficult to be effective at your job if line management don't perform in their roles. They were shown the door as will Dimma in 2017 if he doesn't lift with better support staff around him. Time will tell.
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Wasn't given a proper go IMO.
Shame we let him go and pick up blokes like Hunt, Moore, Townsend etc when this bloke is genuinely tough and an honest footballer.
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Yep, should have played that last half of the season he was with us. BOG in most of that years games in the two's, should have been given a go.
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I wonder if this is an inherit problem with the recycled players philosophy. Younger players arent really given a go unless they are immediately outstanding or a high pick and it would look bad if the coach didn't play them. Dimmable is known for his favorites.
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Matty Dea is by no means a star but he is a better player the Batchelor who not only was kept for season 2016 but has another in 2017 when he couldn't get a game in our poo side this year.
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Matty Dea is by no means a star but he is a better player the Batchelor who not only was kept for season 2016 but has another in 2017 when he couldn't get a game in our poo side this year.
:clapping
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It takes an Idiot to not know his own list and instill favourites into the squad, alternatively.
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Matty Dea is by no means a star but he is a better player the Batchelor who not only was kept for season 2016 but has another in 2017 when he couldn't get a game in our poo side this year.
:clapping
x2
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I think the proof will be this year. How many games does Dea play and how many Batch. I'm guessing 0 for Batch and 6 to 12 for Dea but you never know.
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They're both spuds, talk about attacking the symptom....
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They're both spuds
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spuds
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So who is still at the club now who stamped Matt Deas departure papers....
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So who is still at the club now who stamped Matt Deas departure papers....
BH