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Title: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on December 13, 2009, 01:08:27 PM
The final intake: who your club could pick
afl.com.au
By Matt Burgan | Sun 13 December, 2009

MATT Burgan predicts the players each club will take in Tuesday's NAB AFL Pre-Season and Rookie Drafts to complete their lists for 2010.

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft

1 - Melbourne - Joel Macdonald (Brisbane Lions)
2 - Richmond - Dylan Grimes (Northern Knights)
3 - Fremantle - Adam McPhee (Essendon)
4 - Sydney Swans - Daniel Bradshaw (Brisbane Lions)
5 - West Coast - Simon White (Subiaco)
6 - Port Adelaide - Cameron Cloke (Carlton)
7 - Essendon - Michael Barlow (Werribee)

NAB AFL Rookie Draft

Round one
1 - Gold Coast - Sam Iles (Box Hill Hawks)
2 - Gold Coast - Joseph Dare (Geelong Falcons)
3 - Gold Coast - Guy O'Keefe (Western Bulldogs)
4 - Gold Coast - Daniel Harris (North Melbourne)
5 - Gold Coast - Luke Ablett (Sydney Swans)

Round one (continued)
6 - Melbourne - Michael Newton (Melbourne)
7 - Richmond - Luke Thompson (Geelong Falcons)
8 - Fremantle - Josh Donaldson (West Perth)
9 - North Melbourne - Majak Daw (Western Jets)
10 - Sydney Swans - Jack Weston (Gippsland Power)
11 - West Coast - Mark Hutchings (East Perth)
12 - Port Adelaide - Derick Wanganeen (Port Adelaide Magpies)
13 - Hawthorn - Matt Fowler (Gold Coast)
14 - Essendon - Serhat Temel (Calder Cannons)
15 - Carlton - Matthew Panos (Norwood)
16 - Brisbane Lions - Mitch Golby (Gippsland Power)
17 - Adelaide - Alex Carey (Glenelg)
18 - Collingwood - Scott Harding (Brisbane Lions)
19 - Western Bulldogs - Josh Dyson (Eastern Ranges)
20 - St Kilda - Tom Hill (Northern Knights)
21 - Geelong - Mitch Fisher (Geelong Falcons)

Round two
22 - Melbourne - John Meesen (Melbourne)
23 - Richmond - Robbie Hicks (Calder Cannons)
24 - Fremantle - Kyle Hardingham (East Fremantle)
25 - North Melbourne - Matthew Laidlaw (Sydney Swans)
26 - Sydney Swans - Kallen Geary (Bendigo Pioneers)
27 - West Coast - Cameron Kickett (Perth)
28 - Port Adelaide - Jack Hannath (Central District)
29 - Hawthorn - Wayde Skipper (Western Bulldogs)
30 - Essendon - Mitch Taylor (Northern Territory Thunder)
31 - Carlton - Tom McKenzie (Geelong Falcons)
32 - Brisbane Lions - Sean Tighe (Western Jets)
33 - Adelaide - Alex Stopp (Norwood)
34 - Collingwood - Jamie McNamara (West Coast)
35 - Western Bulldogs - Matthew Scott (Eastern Ranges)
36 - St Kilda - Daniel Scott-Collings (Glenelg)
37 - Geelong - Craig Pitt (Glenelg)

Round three
38 - Richmond - Tom Harms (Sturt)
39 - Sydney Swans - Henry Playfair (Sydney Swans)
40 - West Coast - John Bennell (Collingwood)
41 - Port Adelaide - Josh Giddings (Glenelg)
42 - Hawthorn - Michael Johnston (East Coast - NSW scholarship)
43 - Essendon - Kyle Hartigan (Western Jets)
44 - Carlton - Michael Coad (Sturt)
45 - Brisbane Lions - Sam Power (North Melbourne)
46 - Adelaide - Michael Thompson (Oakleigh Chargers)
47 - Collingwood - Seamus McNamara (Wisconsin, USA - international)
48 - Western Bulldogs - Jake Edwards (Carlton)
49 - St Kilda - Johnny Raynor (Western Jets)
50 - Geelong - Daniel O'Keefe (Sydney Swans)

Round four
51 - Richmond - Deon Gordon (Northern Territory Thunder)
52 - Sydney Swans - Pass
53 - West Coast - Ryan Davis (West Coast)
54 - Port Adelaide - Glenn Dawson (Port Adelaide)
55 - Essendon - Marcus Marigliani (Frankston)
56 - Carlton - Andrew Hooper (North Ballarat Rebels)
57 - Brisbane Lions - Kieran King (Brisbane Lions)
58 - Adelaide - Aidan Riley (Wollongong - NSW scholarship)
59 - Western Bulldogs - Cameron Pedersen (Box Hill Hawks)
60 - St Kilda - Jarryd Allen (St Kilda)
61 - Geelong - James Podsiadly (Geelong Cats, VFL)

Round five
62 - Richmond - Graham Polak (Richmond)
63 - Sydney Swans - Chris McKaigue (County Derry, Ireland - international)
64 - Port Adelaide - Daniel Bass (three-year non-registered player)
65 - Essendon - David Mirra (Eastern Ranges)
66 - Carlton - Jaryd Cachia (Northern Knights)
67 - Brisbane Lions - Niall McKeever (County Ulster, Ireland - international)
68 - Western Bulldogs - Patrick Rose (Williamstown)
69 - St Kilda - Tommy Walsh (County Kerry, Ireland - international)

Round six
70 - Richmond - Jamie O'Reilly (Down, Ireland - international)
71 - Sydney Swans - Nathan Gordon (NSW/ACT Rams - NSW scholarship)
72 - Port Adelaide - Jordan Johns (South Broken Hill - NSW scholarship)
73 - Carlton - Zach Tuohy (Laois, Ireland - international)
74 - Brisbane Lions - Todd Grayson (Gold Coast - Qld pre-selection)

Round seven
75 - Sydney Swans - Dylan McNeil (Murray Bushrangers - NSW pre-selection)
76 - Brisbane Lions - Claye Beams (Labrador - Qld pre-selection)

Round eight
77 - Sydney Swans - Sam Crichton (Sydney Uni - NSW pre-selection)
78 - Brisbane Lions - Broc McCauley (Southport - Qld pre-selection)



Thirty more to watch out for
1 - Roland Ah Chee (Northern Territory Thunder)
2 - Rhys Archard (North Adelaide)
3 - Jayden Cass (Eastern Ranges)
4 - Jonathan Ceglar (Murray Bushrangers)
5 - Josh Free (North Ballarat Rebels)
6 - Clinton Garlett (Swan Districts)
7 - Tom Hunter (Calder Cannons)
8 - Chris Irving (Seaford)
9 - Ben Jakobi (Sandringham Dragons)
10 - Dylan Jones (Sandringham Dragons)
11 - Aaron Kite (Adelaide)
12 - Tom Lee (Adelaide)
13 - James Meiklejohn (Port Adelaide Magpies)
14 - Luke McDonald (Eastern Ranges)
15 - Dan McKenna (Geelong)
16 - Brayden O'Hara (Central District)
17 - Shane Page (Bendigo Pioneers)
18 - Kris Pendlebury (Collingwood, VFL)
19 - Dean Putt (Richmond)
20 - Dane Rampe (Williamstown)
21 - Relton Roberts (Wanderers)
22 - Myles Sewell (North Ballarat Roosters)
23 - Robert Shirley (Adelaide)
24 - Alex Silvagni (Casey Scorpions)
25 - Orren Stephenson (North Ballarat Rebels)
26 - Andrew Strijk (West Perth)
27 - Kane Tenace (Geelong)
28 - Mitch Thorp (Hawthorn)
29 - Liam Tobin (Sandringham Dragons)
30 - Shane Valenti (Melbourne)

Follow the NAB AFL Pre-Season and Rookie Drafts LIVE on afl.com.au from 11am AEDT on Tuesday, December 15.
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: WA Tiger on December 13, 2009, 03:27:43 PM
Relton Roberts not rated to go anyware then, same as Free????
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: Penelope on December 13, 2009, 04:47:29 PM
Considering Kadhlefelt's been training since they resumed, you'd think he is a good chance of being selected. If they had decided against him then surely he would have been told not to bother turning up any more. If he is selected I wouldnt be surprised if he is the PSD choice given that he will be 23 next year and you would want him on the main list so he can play early in the season if he warrants selection.

I cant help but think about the report that Jackson said Burgan does his research for the first round but pretty much guesses after that in the ND
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: elliot on December 13, 2009, 04:56:52 PM
Can't see us taking Grimes. The kid can't kick and even FJ said there's no point taking talls unless they can play.
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: mightytiges on December 14, 2009, 02:36:37 AM
For some reason from the highlight vision Grimes' kicking action reminds me of Tayte Pears'.

http://offseasondraft.championdata.com/afl_off_season_draft/offSeasonDraft/player_profile.jsp?player_id=114417 (http://offseasondraft.championdata.com/afl_off_season_draft/offSeasonDraft/player_profile.jsp?player_id=114417)

Considering Kadhlefelt's been training since they resumed, you'd think he is a good chance of being selected. If they had decided against him then surely he would have been told not to bother turning up any more. If he is selected I wouldnt be surprised if he is the PSD choice given that he will be 23 next year and you would want him on the main list so he can play early in the season if he warrants selection.
That's not a major issue for us next year as we have no vets so we can nominate two rookies to play from round 1 without needing anyone to be on our LTIL.
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: torch on December 14, 2009, 03:15:56 AM
i don't think Grimes's kicking is horrible.

 :)
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: TigerLand on December 14, 2009, 03:39:49 PM
Ge I hope we pick up Tom Harms.

I'd be wrapped with Majak Daw also we don't have many rucks and he's a genuine live-wire
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: peggles on December 14, 2009, 04:20:42 PM
Ge I hope we pick up Tom Harms.

I'd be wrapped with Majak Daw also we don't have many rucks and he's a genuine live-wire

popelord, i thought i remember your liking for tom harms prior to the national draft.  from the write up of Harms, he looks to be a good prospect.  would not be disappointed if we picked him up
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: TigerLand on December 14, 2009, 04:54:46 PM
He saw him in the carnival stands out with big Blonde dreadlocks identical to Ben Nason lol.

He's not as quick as Nason but much bigger and has a huge left foot on him, finds the footy well and kicks goals as a midfielder. Think he kicked 14 goals in 3 games in the SANFL U/18's.

Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on December 14, 2009, 05:00:03 PM
Matt Burgan was just on SEN with Ox and Francis. As far as our PSD pick he said it could be any of the kids training with us but he believes it's down to Dylan Grimes or Robbie Hicks.

Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: WA Tiger on December 14, 2009, 05:02:18 PM
Matt Burgan was just on SEN with Ox and Francis. As far as our PSD pick he said it could be any of the kids training with us but he believes it's down to Dylan Grimes or Robbie Hicks.



Whats the news on the Hicks kid then??
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: 1965 on December 14, 2009, 05:41:27 PM
Matt Burgan was just on SEN with Ox and Francis. As far as our PSD pick he said it could be any of the kids training with us but he believes it's down to Dylan Grimes or Robbie Hicks.



Whats the news on the Hicks kid then??

176cm 68kg forward from the Calder Cannons.

Quick but too small.

Pass.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/87011/default.aspx
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: WA Tiger on December 14, 2009, 05:45:39 PM
Matt Burgan was just on SEN with Ox and Francis. As far as our PSD pick he said it could be any of the kids training with us but he believes it's down to Dylan Grimes or Robbie Hicks.



Whats the news on the Hicks kid then??

176cm 68kg forward from the Calder Cannons.

Quick but too small.

Pass.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/87011/default.aspx

Cheers, I think we have enough smalls!!
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: 1965 on December 14, 2009, 05:47:39 PM
Matt Burgan was just on SEN with Ox and Francis. As far as our PSD pick he said it could be any of the kids training with us but he believes it's down to Dylan Grimes or Robbie Hicks.



Whats the news on the Hicks kid then??

176cm 68kg forward from the Calder Cannons.

Quick but too small.

Pass.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/87011/default.aspx

Cheers, I think we have enough smalls!!

I'll give you a hint...

Try using Google rather than wasting everone's time just to get your stats up.

 :wallywink
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: WA Tiger on December 14, 2009, 06:00:28 PM
Matt Burgan was just on SEN with Ox and Francis. As far as our PSD pick he said it could be any of the kids training with us but he believes it's down to Dylan Grimes or Robbie Hicks.



Whats the news on the Hicks kid then??

176cm 68kg forward from the Calder Cannons.

Quick but too small.

Pass.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/87011/default.aspx

Cheers, I think we have enough smalls!!

I'll give you a hint...

Try using Google rather than wasting everone's time just to get your stats up.

 :wallywink

I will give you a hint... PSYCHO........ :whistle
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: mightytiges on December 14, 2009, 08:36:23 PM
It seems a lot of the kids we have training with us are small. Seems they are competing for one spot given we already have a heap of sub-6 footers.

Notice Burgan has Luke Thompson at pick 7. At least he's another tall if we drafted that way.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/86892/default.aspx
http://www.contestedfooty.com/2009/12/luke-thompson-2009-afl-draft-prospect.html
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: tigersalive on December 15, 2009, 08:38:13 AM
I'd be wrapped with Majak Daw also we don't have many rucks and he's a genuine live-wire


Except that he's not a ruckman Popelord.  He's only 193-194cms tall.
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: tigersalive on December 15, 2009, 08:39:49 AM
Interesting to see Mitch Thorp not rated at all to go as a rookie.
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: Infamy on December 15, 2009, 09:18:50 AM
Interesting to see Mitch Thorp not rated at all to go as a rookie.
Has been pretty hard to prove himself to another club when he got stress fractures in his foot while training at Melbourne
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: TigerLand on December 15, 2009, 09:58:34 AM
I'd be wrapped with Majak Daw also we don't have many rucks and he's a genuine live-wire


Except that he's not a ruckman Popelord.  He's only 193-194cms tall.

He's rucked all his Junior career his leap is phenomenal and arm span is bigger than average. And he's a mountain of a man.
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: tigersalive on December 15, 2009, 10:05:29 AM
I'd be wrapped with Majak Daw also we don't have many rucks and he's a genuine live-wire


Except that he's not a ruckman Popelord.  He's only 193-194cms tall.

He's rucked all his Junior career his leap is phenomenal and arm span is bigger than average. And he's a mountain of a man.

Key word in all that is junior.

He will not be an AFL ruckman.
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: Infamy on December 15, 2009, 10:19:17 AM
I'd be wrapped with Majak Daw also we don't have many rucks and he's a genuine live-wire


Except that he's not a ruckman Popelord.  He's only 193-194cms tall.

He's rucked all his Junior career his leap is phenomenal and arm span is bigger than average. And he's a mountain of a man.

Key word in all that is junior.

He will not be an AFL ruckman.
If we can throw Polak into the ruck you'd think Majak could have a go in there also
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: tigersalive on December 15, 2009, 10:32:19 AM
I'd be wrapped with Majak Daw also we don't have many rucks and he's a genuine live-wire


Except that he's not a ruckman Popelord.  He's only 193-194cms tall.

He's rucked all his Junior career his leap is phenomenal and arm span is bigger than average. And he's a mountain of a man.

Key word in all that is junior.

He will not be an AFL ruckman.
If we can throw Polak into the ruck you'd think Majak could have a go in there also

You can throw anyone into the ruck you like but it doesn't make them AFL standard.

If you get Majak you groom him to be a forward or a tall midfielder, not a ruckman.
Title: Re: Matt Burgan's phantom Preseason and Rookie drafts (afl site)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on December 15, 2009, 10:47:41 AM
I'd be wrapped with Majak Daw also we don't have many rucks and he's a genuine live-wire

Agree

would be funny if he went to Gold Coast