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Title: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: one-eyed on January 08, 2010, 04:07:53 PM
A new year so looking ahead to the upcoming season ...


What are your expectations for Polo in 2010 and what would be a good year for him?


Career so far:

           Games    Disp.   Marks   Tackles    G.B
2006:     17        15.4     6.4        2.4       6.6
2007:       8        14.6     4.8        2.0       1.1
2008:       6        15.4     4.0        1.8       0.4
2009:     21        17.3     5.0        2.2       4.2

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1639&SeasonID=ALL


Edit: title fixed to 2010
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Infamy on January 08, 2010, 04:14:39 PM
Steady improvement on 2009 would be fine. Hopefully Hardwick can get him showing some of that form he had in his debut match. Not every game you can play on someone like Stantin who doesn't know what an opponent is.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Jacosh on January 08, 2010, 04:46:13 PM
           Games    Disp.   Marks   Tackles    G.B
2009:     21        17.3     5.0        2.2       4.2

I feel pretty confidant he will get the above stats in 2009.

Which will be a steady improvement on previous years and hope that Hardwick can take the next step with him and the improvement in 2010 will be even better.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: tony_montana on January 08, 2010, 05:09:56 PM
For polo to be sucessful his tenacity has to be at a very high level each and every week. When his intensity drops he can easily get exposed at this level, with total concentration at the task he's a good soldier for us.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on January 08, 2010, 06:02:29 PM
Polo might struggle to make the best 22 this year
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 08, 2010, 06:03:39 PM
Don't we mean 2010 expectations  ;D

I expect Dean to continue to improve ...actually I think he may just thrive under Hardwick.

Hardwick was a tough runner off the HB line with alot of mongrel - if he can instill that in Dean then we have a tough HBF with great footy smarts  :thumbsup

 :gotigers

Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Francois Jackson on January 08, 2010, 11:20:15 PM
its pretty simnple for Polo and hardwick. Play him in the backline and he is finished as a footballer.

ditto Edwards.

Polo shows he can kick goals so what do we do. Play him in defence. no worries :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: mightytiges on January 09, 2010, 06:38:55 PM
Deano needs to back-up and cement his spot in our best 22 this year at the very least. I still feel he needs to step up another level in his 6th year on our list. His kicking can let him down at times. Hopefully under a new coach he can.   
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on January 10, 2010, 02:13:15 PM
No excuses at all from Polo this year, he has been in the system for too long and he must either cement a spot in the regular 22 or be moved on at the end of the year. I think he has got something to offer when playing at his best, it's just getting him there that seems to be a problem, same could be said for Edwards......... but thats another story.... :whistle
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Beren on January 11, 2010, 02:25:27 PM
No excuses at all from Polo this year, he has been in the system for too long and he must either cement a spot in the regular 22 or be moved on at the end of the year. I think he has got something to offer when playing at his best, it's just getting him there that seems to be a problem, same could be said for Edwards......... but thats another story.... :whistle

Pretty sure he played 21 games last year, not a bad effort to cement his place.

Agree with WP he will thrive under DH.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on January 11, 2010, 02:40:44 PM
No excuses at all from Polo this year, he has been in the system for too long and he must either cement a spot in the regular 22 or be moved on at the end of the year. I think he has got something to offer when playing at his best, it's just getting him there that seems to be a problem, same could be said for Edwards......... but thats another story.... :whistle

Pretty sure he played 21 games last year, not a bad effort to cement his place.

Agree with WP he will thrive under DH.


21 games in a great side, not. My son could have played 21 games in that side last year, he needs to thrive under someone IMO or move him on end of year. But like I said I hope he can.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 11, 2010, 06:07:05 PM
21 games in a great side, not. My son could have played 21 games in that side last year, he needs to thrive under someone IMO or move him on end of year. But like I said I hope he can.

With all due respect WAT. I think you argument is flawed

We know it wasn't a great side but if you are going to use that as a guage then everyone should be on notice shouldn't they?

For example McGuane, Tambling, had their best seasons, Post. Vickery, Collins and Nahas showed enough signs but seeing we weren't a great side does it mean none of that really counts? Or do we apply "it wasn't a great side" edicate to only some players?

And BTW for the record for the first time Polo finished top 10 in the B&F so I think 2009 was a solid year compared to previous years. A bit like Tambling  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on January 11, 2010, 06:16:06 PM
21 games in a great side, not. My son could have played 21 games in that side last year, he needs to thrive under someone IMO or move him on end of year. But like I said I hope he can.

And BTW for the record for the first time Polo finished top 10 in the B&F so I think 2009 was a solid year compared to previous years. A bit like Tambling  :thumbsup

I think Tambling always had more talent than Polo so it is somewhat unfair to compare them.

I feel the following players could challange Polo for his spot on the team; and you can only fit 22 of them in the side.

Roberts
Tuck
White
Connors
O'Reilly
Edwards
Webberley
Dea
Gilligan
Nason
Jackson
Farmer
King
Thomson
Hislop
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on January 11, 2010, 06:51:06 PM
Yes WP the whole team should be on notice and more than likely will/should be this year. We have another Thread on the forum where people have said that the whole team should be on notice however Polo was singled out as well.

McGuane, Tambling, Post, Nahas, Collins and even Vickery at this early stage are prepared to take the game on. Nahas, Collins, Tambling, McGuane and Post have natural flair about their game where as IMO Polo has little. Polo has gone into a shell since his first game, thats the type of football he needs to play, run and carry breaking the lines, never mind the stats.

Tambling has worked his arse off and he fully deserved the year he had, Polo has been in the system longer and should be finishing in the top ten B&F every year. In saying that though anyone of our players could have finished in the top 10 B&F, how many Brownlow votes did he get??

It's up to Polo this year, if he can't perform under Hardwick he won't perform anyware IMO, I hope he does because because if he can offer what he did on his first game then we will be a stronger side.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 11, 2010, 07:38:43 PM
Tambling has worked his behind off and he fully deserved the year he had, Polo has been in the system longer and should be finishing in the top ten B&F every year. In saying that though anyone of our players could have finished in the top 10 B&F, how many Brownlow votes did he get??


You make some good points. No idea about Brownlow votes

However FWIW, tambling and Polo have been in the system the same amount of time (both drafted in 2004), only difference is Polo had that major shoulder injury 2 years ago - Richie has never had a major injury. 2009 was the first time (IIRC) Tambling finsihed top 10 in the B&F. Yep Richie deserved his year and so did Dean  :thumbsup

I think to say that anyone could have finished top 10 is a bit of slight on those that did. Those that did deserved it (Deledio, Jackson etc) because they were the best in what was a terrible year
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on January 11, 2010, 07:45:34 PM
Don't think he would of got any Brownlow votes actually but I could be wrong, didn't realise he had been in the same draft as Tambling.

I actually meant to say within the last 3 of the top 10 in the B&F and thats without knowing where he actually finished.

Lets just hope he has a good year...
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Smokey on January 11, 2010, 08:25:32 PM
Don't think he would of got any Brownlow votes actually but I could be wrong, didn't realise he had been in the same draft as Tambling.

I actually meant to say within the last 3 of the top 10 in the B&F and thats without knowing where he actually finished.

Lets just hope he has a good year...

Polo got 5 votes in his first season (2006) and has received none since.  Tambling has received 9 over his career (scoring in 4 seasons), scoring 5 in 2009.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on January 11, 2010, 08:51:20 PM
Don't think he would of got any Brownlow votes actually but I could be wrong, didn't realise he had been in the same draft as Tambling.

I actually meant to say within the last 3 of the top 10 in the B&F and thats without knowing where he actually finished.

Lets just hope he has a good year...

Polo got 5 votes in his first season (2006) and has received none since.  Tambling has received 9 over his career (scoring in 4 seasons), scoring 5 in 2009.

So thats the form he has to recapture, 2006, how long ago was that, really, injuries aside he has or is completing a full pre season at the moment so lets just hope. :pray Thats the difference between Polo and Tambling, Tambling has progressed and he has had a few injuries as well as stints in the twos.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Mr Magic on January 11, 2010, 09:08:19 PM
Dean was never a Wallet favourite, probably called the coaches bluff. One player I expect to thrive under Harwick. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 11, 2010, 09:52:46 PM
Dean was never a Wallet favourite,

Aint that the truth  :thumbsup

Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on January 11, 2010, 10:02:05 PM
That maybe the truth but does that excuse him for playing below his best, I think not, fellow by the name of Morton was not exactly head of the table at Wallaces Christmas party last year either, but he still got on with it.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: tiga on January 11, 2010, 10:03:32 PM
Expectations for Polo? as I say every year....None! And he never lets me down.   ;D
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on January 11, 2010, 10:11:43 PM
Expectations for Polo? as I say every year....None! And he never lets me down.   ;D

Thats just nasty..lol...... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 11, 2010, 10:19:08 PM
That maybe the truth but does that excuse him for playing below his best, I think not, fellow by the name of Morton was not exactly head of the table at Wallaces Christmas party last year either, but he still got on with it.

 :-\ :-\

You've lost me. "playing below his best"? What does that mean exactly

He played 21 games last year so you'd think he must have being doing something right to remain in the team. Take out round 22 against the Eagles (and I am sure you were there WAT) which was without doubt his worst game EVER (Iwas there and it was a shocker) -2009 would be his most consistent season.

He spent most of the 2008 running around at Coburg and despite being in its best players week after week, he didn't get picked. Who's fault is that exactly? Then when he did finally get promoted and played against the Dawks (in their premeirship year) and towelled up Bateman what did Tezza do to him the next week? Drop him! (BTW I remember he got 10 B&F votes for that game)

Did he crack the sads and asked to be traded NO - he worked his butt off to the point where they had to play him.

2007 was a write off because of shoulder reconstruction, 2006 was his first season of AFL and his first year at the club (2005) he started in the Coburg 2's, worked his butt off and made it into Coburg seniors and was named an emergency in round 22 of 2006 (should have played but they named Krakouer instead).

So I think to suggest he hasn't worked hard enough is not fair. He has "got on with it". 21 games in 2009 proved it

And as I said I reckon he will thrive under Hardwick
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: tiga on January 11, 2010, 10:26:55 PM
WP, I admire your spirit. We all have to have a special cause to fight for and I think Polo is yours. I'm sure once you drift away from the sentiment of the moment, you will see that he is a very basic skilled and plain old ordinary footballer who can be a good tagger on a player that suits his lack of pace. If he were a colour he would be beige.

And thats how Tiga "C's" it!  ;D
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on January 11, 2010, 10:51:35 PM
Sorry WP I am having trouble quoting posts so I will do my best to answer you. Ok my post was not supposed to mean the exact words I said. Playing below his best I actually meant two things, 1; he was not playing to his potential IMO and that was because Wallace did not get on with him, c'mon look at his style, he is a lazy player (looks like it anyway). 2; I ma not sure he will ever be a top line player for us, frindge dweller until replacements or trades can be made.

But if he proves me wrong, great, I will evem let you say I told you so... :thumbsup

Look mate we will all know in month or so and I will support him if he lines up round one as I will with every player including Edwards.. :whistle

Let me know the game you are coming over for this year and I will see what I can do...
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 12, 2010, 07:21:26 AM
Let me know the game you are coming over for this year and I will see what I can do...

We only head to Perth once this year - ANZAC day against Freo and I'm all booked. Fly in in the morning, home on the red-eye  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Francois Jackson on January 12, 2010, 10:17:19 AM
if your relying on a polo to hold down a back pocket or even a half back line spot well we will continue to finish near the bottom every year.

he is useless behind the ball in fact i would trade him years end, he provides nothing to the team much like Edwards
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on January 12, 2010, 01:22:57 PM
Let me know the game you are coming over for this year and I will see what I can do...

We only head to Perth once this year - ANZAC day against Freo and I'm all booked. Fly in in the morning, home on the red-eye  :thumbsup

Cool mate, we will keep in touch as it gets closer.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Jacosh on January 12, 2010, 01:27:22 PM
I dont get to a lot of training sessions but from what ive heard he wasnt one of Wallace's favorites and that would have effected not only his playing but training.

I did watch Polo today and he seemed happy to be there and his skills and effort were up there with anyone elses, i think he will play better under Dimma than he did for Wallace and this just may be and i hope it is a stand out year for him if today was any indication.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Beren on January 12, 2010, 02:47:08 PM


 :-\ :-\

You've lost me. "playing below his best"? What does that mean exactly

He played 21 games last year so you'd think he must have being doing something right to remain in the team. Take out round 22 against the Eagles (and I am sure you were there WAT) which was without doubt his worst game EVER (Iwas there and it was a shocker) -2009 would be his most consistent season.

He spent most of the 2008 running around at Coburg and despite being in its best players week after week, he didn't get picked. Who's fault is that exactly? Then when he did finally get promoted and played against the Dawks (in their premeirship year) and towelled up Bateman what did Tezza do to him the next week? Drop him! (BTW I remember he got 10 B&F votes for that game)

Did he crack the sads and asked to be traded NO - he worked his butt off to the point where they had to play him.

2007 was a write off because of shoulder reconstruction, 2006 was his first season of AFL and his first year at the club (2005) he started in the Coburg 2's, worked his butt off and made it into Coburg seniors and was named an emergency in round 22 of 2006 (should have played but they named Krakouer instead).

So I think to suggest he hasn't worked hard enough is not fair. He has "got on with it". 21 games in 2009 proved it

And as I said I reckon he will thrive under Hardwick

Spot on again WP.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Mr Magic on January 13, 2010, 02:26:48 AM
He has "got on with it". 21 games in 2009 proved it

Bloody great post Wil.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: mat073 on January 13, 2010, 05:17:25 PM
Despite finishing in the top 10 of the B&F in 09, I still predict that Polo might be fighting to remain on the list in 2011.

To borrow a new catch phrase on this forum......I see him as "Cannon fodder" in 2010.

If he does thrive under the under the guidance of Hardwick no one will be happier than me.

At the moment my gut feeling is he is not the type of player that will ever take us deep into September.

Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on January 14, 2010, 12:40:57 PM
Needs to bulk up a bit and play with more confidence. That should come in time, but he just needs to concentrate on removing the occasional turnover out of his game. Will need to improve or could be in trouble at the end of the season
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on January 14, 2010, 12:58:51 PM
At least the lad is tough
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: torch on January 14, 2010, 11:36:55 PM
needs more muscle on him!

needs to improve his kicking!

 :)
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Jacosh on January 15, 2010, 09:16:30 AM
needs more muscle on him!

needs to improve his kicking!

 :)

That could be said for over half the team Torch, and i think less for Dean than some of the others. I thought he was in pretty good shape when i saw him the other day at training and he is far from being the worst in the skills department.

I honestly think he just needs a kick up the bum and then given the chance to play his natural game which Wallace wouldnt allow him to do.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on January 15, 2010, 12:24:43 PM
A kick up the bum he does need, but he also needs a full pre season and that is what he has had so far, lets hope he takes full advantage of his pre season and takes it into the H&A season.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: tiga on January 15, 2010, 12:48:09 PM
He has "got on with it". 21 games in 2009 proved it

Bloody great post Wil.

And where did we finish??
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Mr Magic on January 15, 2010, 01:06:07 PM
And where did we finish??

So that's Polo's fault?
He is still a young developing footballer who showed some improvement last year.
Some of the recent departees have plenty more to answer for than Dean Polo in 2009.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: tiga on January 15, 2010, 06:05:28 PM
And where did we finish??

So that's Polo's fault?
He is still a young developing footballer who showed some improvement last year.
Some of the recent departees have plenty more to answer for than Dean Polo in 2009.

Magic, we played poorly as a team, this thread is highlighting an individual. Therefore I feel validated in stating that his performance was not at a level that I would expect from a player who has had 52 senior appearances over 4 seasons. Playing 21 games in a poorly performing side is no outstanding effort. Did he improve?? Maybe. Will he improve more? I would like to hope so but I won't be holding my breath. Would he get 21 games at Geelong or St Kilda?? Probably not.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: the claw on January 15, 2010, 07:11:55 PM
very average player imo lucky to survive the cull. lucky he was contracted. poor decisions ordinary kick no hurt factor.
5 yrs we have had of him still not truly established going into yr 6 he needs to step up or get the chop. we do like those who try hard and have a go at richmond unfortunately you need more than just having a go to play afl.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: crannyvegas on January 16, 2010, 12:16:40 AM
I struggle with Polo, he isn't flashy & he isn't an in and under/tough player. Doesn't really own a position and you wouldn't put his number on your kids jumper. Personally i think some of this years recruits will be looking at his spot come the end of the year.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on January 17, 2010, 12:59:14 AM
Polo is one of those players that evokes alot of passion within fans. There is no grey area just balck or white.

For me I think he had a serviceable 2009. I think many of his issues are in his head rather than a physical imperferction based on the psyche he has due to the previous coaching regime. I think with the right nurturing his confidence can increase markedly which will result positively in an on field sense. For years other than 2009 other than last year we have hoped to see him named only for him to be overlooked for someone who in all honesty was more inferior which again goes back to the coaching of a certain bronzed individual.

Not  His improvement will be surprising to some of you. Certainly not the worst on our list by a long stretch.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on February 15, 2010, 01:20:08 PM
Well folks this is one player as you will know that I don't believe can make it at AFL level, although I would love to see him get there he just lacks something IMO to make the transition from VFL to AFL.

Now leading into this game I was advocating Connors over Polo and IMO on Saturday Connors played 10 fold to the way Polo played. I have read many posts since the game on Saturday night and I think Polo has gotten off very lightly from posters that would rather crucify Deledio.

What are our thoughts on Polo now, I mean after one game if players like Hislop, Deledio, Tambling, Polak and the rest that accumulated more possessions and played better than Polo can be bagged then surley Polo needs looking at. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Francois Jackson on February 15, 2010, 01:25:07 PM
Well folks this is one player as you will know that I don't believe can make it at AFL level, although I would love to see him get there he just lacks something IMO to make the transition from VFL to AFL.

Now leading into this game I was advocating Connors over Polo and IMO on Saturday Connors played 10 fold to the way Polo played. I have read many posts since the game on Saturday night and I think Polo has gotten off very lightly from posters that would rather crucify Deledio.

What are our thoughts on Polo now, I mean after one game if players like Hislop, Deledio, Tambling, Polak and the rest that accumulated more possessions and played better than Polo can be bagged then surley Polo needs looking at. :thumbsup

If Polo is a defender then i am Nelson Mandella.

He shoud not be anywhere near that area.

I mean FFS he can kick goals, well at least has in a few games, so why not play him up forward. But its RFC so lets just play him in about 4 or 5 different positions and then in his last year play him forward.

Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 15, 2010, 01:31:39 PM
Well folks this is one player as you will know that I don't believe can make it at AFL level, although I would love to see him get there he just lacks something IMO to make the transition from VFL to AFL.

Now leading into this game I was advocating Connors over Polo and IMO on Saturday Connors played 10 fold to the way Polo played. I have read many posts since the game on Saturday night and I think Polo has gotten off very lightly from posters that would rather crucify Deledio.

What are our thoughts on Polo now, I mean after one game if players like Hislop, Deledio, Tambling, Polak and the rest that accumulated more possessions and played better than Polo can be bagged then surley Polo needs looking at. :thumbsup

You give me one forward player from Saturday night who played well for the entire game. And don't say Nahas & Riewoldt because take out the last qtr and they were very poor as well.

As usually WAT you seem to base a players worth on their statistics... do things that don't get picked up on the TV (and yes I've watched the replay) count in your book?

Did he play well NO but he wasn't alone.

And if you think Connors played well then you are seduced by statistics because his disposal was very ordinary indeed. And BTW being there I can tell you that there were a couple of times he should have chased HARD and he didn't ....

Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on February 15, 2010, 01:32:21 PM
Well he was played forward as well during the game but could not get involved so I am wondering where he fits in to our structure??
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Smokey on February 15, 2010, 01:36:03 PM
I wasn't at the game WP but he appeared to spend very little time up forward, especially early in the game.  Was this correct?
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on February 15, 2010, 01:39:23 PM
Well folks this is one player as you will know that I don't believe can make it at AFL level, although I would love to see him get there he just lacks something IMO to make the transition from VFL to AFL.

Now leading into this game I was advocating Connors over Polo and IMO on Saturday Connors played 10 fold to the way Polo played. I have read many posts since the game on Saturday night and I think Polo has gotten off very lightly from posters that would rather crucify Deledio.

What are our thoughts on Polo now, I mean after one game if players like Hislop, Deledio, Tambling, Polak and the rest that accumulated more possessions and played better than Polo can be bagged then surley Polo needs looking at. :thumbsup

You give me one forward player from Saturday night who played well for the entire game. And don't say Nahas & Riewoldt because take out the last qtr and they were very poor as well.

As usually WAT you seem to base a players worth on their statistics... do things that don't get picked up on the TV (and yes I've watched the replay) count in your book?

Did he play well NO but he wasn't alone.

And if you think Connors played well then you are seduced by statistics because his disposal was very ordinary indeed. And BTW being there I can tell you that there were a couple of times he should have chased HARD and he didn't ....



Thats right WP none of the forwards played well including Polo but he seems to have come out of this game unscathed from the expert critics yet agin while the rest of the players that played crap have copped it.

Why in a previous post on Polo did you list his stats from the last few years?? Who is being seduced by statistics??? I didn't notice Polo doing very much Saturday let alone chasing HARD!!
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Ox on February 15, 2010, 01:58:42 PM
lmao

I don't even bother commenting on some players.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Stripes on February 15, 2010, 02:18:45 PM
It has been one practice game and already people are keen to change everything we have spent all summer training for. Hardwick has a definite long term plan which at the moment includes Polo in the forwardline. Polo spent most of the game in the backline and then played in a supply starved forwardline after that. All of our forwards struggled early on as Hawthorn was just too strong defensively and pressured our midfielders relentlessly. They had 100 more possessions than us yet even when we did kick it into our forwardline it was a bomb which meant leads were nigh on useless. Players such as Polak and Morton suffered because of this in particular.

Lets just see how the NAB Challenge series unfolds against other opposition (lets hope we don't play Geelong next  :o) and see how the forwardline goes when our midfield has more time to deliver to leading targets.

Stripes
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: torch on February 15, 2010, 02:20:50 PM
Polo was played as a backman on Saturday Night.

i think Campbell was in charge and played Polo down back.

i think he should be played on the half forward line.

 :)
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on February 15, 2010, 02:30:38 PM
It has been one practice game and already people are keen to change everything we have spent all summer training for.
Stripes

That is part of my point, after one game just about every player is being hung except Polo, so lynch him as well people or...........leave the others alone.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 15, 2010, 04:37:18 PM
I wasn't at the game WP but he appeared to spend very little time up forward, especially early in the game.  Was this correct?

from where I was sitting he played mainly up forward smokey. Although on a couple of occasions he followed his opponent as he (Hawks player) tried to create a running option off the backline. This resulted in him appearing on the HBF a few times. He did have a couple of short stints at HB but that seemed to have more to do with his opponent,; well at least that;s how it looked.

He was also rotated through a lot. I must say I was generally surprised with how often Polo and Morton in particular were rotated off the ground

Thats right WP none of the forwards played well including Polo but he seems to have come out of this game unscathed from the expert critics yet agin while the rest of the players that played crap have copped it.

Why in a previous post on Polo did you list his stats from the last few years?? Who is being seduced by statistics??? I didn't notice Polo doing very much Saturday let alone chasing HARD!!

1/ I didn’t quote statistics – I highlighted the number of games he has played over the last 3 season. You said Polo had the ball “given to him” and then mentioned Tucks stats regarding clearances – I responded to the stats you presented.  I said you’d be surprised at how many hardball gets Polo actually has. For mine hard ball gets are of greater importance in some cases than kicks & handballs. But hey that’s a personal view

2/ Re: chasing HARD my point was this (and I have said this many times): On TV you cannot see what a player 10-15 off the ball is doing, it simply isn’t shown. At the game you can see what blokes are doing off the ball and how hard they are working. I can tell you that were a couple of occasions on Saturday night when Connors should have gone to chase and he didn’t go hard enough. How would you know if Polo or anyone else chased if it wasn’t shown on TV? As I mentioned above he followed his opponent (actually ran 70 odd metres) from the HF line to the HB line to ensure his opponent didn’t get the ball and become the option. Having watched the replay I can assure you this wasn’t seen on the TV and was not highlighted.


Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: bojangles17 on February 15, 2010, 04:45:49 PM
pretty ordinary sat night...he has a tenuous hold on a spot, read same for white and richie
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on February 15, 2010, 05:09:47 PM
Thats fine WP you have your opinion and I have mine, actually I even think Tuck played a better game than him on Saturday. I just don't think he has got what it takes to play AFL and will more than likely be gone at the end of the year with Tuck.

He can follow his oponent all he likes for 1000 metres around the ground but he still didn't get the ball, or do anything to hurt the opposition. At least Tuck and Connors tried to run and carry, Polo did little for mine.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: jackstar is back again on February 15, 2010, 05:36:59 PM
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And if you think Connors played well then you are seduced by statistics because his disposal was very ordinary indeed. And BTW being there I can tell you that there were a couple of times he should have chased HARD and he didn't ....






Connors first 5 kicks either missed targets or went straight to the opposition.
he is NOT UP TO IT PEOPLE !



Edited to correct quote
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 15, 2010, 06:28:51 PM
Thats fine WP you have your opinion and I have mine, actually I even think Tuck played a better game than him on Saturday. I just don't think he has got what it takes to play AFL and will more than likely be gone at the end of the year with Tuck.

He can follow his oponent all he likes for 1000 metres around the ground but he still didn't get the ball, or do anything to hurt the opposition. At least Tuck and Connors tried to run and carry, Polo did little for mine.

Actually felt for Tucky - he seemed a bit lost in the sense he didn't quite know what his role was.

I got very frustrated with his short kicks - would rather see him kick it longer, rather than those short "dinky" nothing passes that float to the opposition

And BTW you are missing a very important point regarding Connors and Tuck too now you've mentioned it - they didn't hurt the opposition they hurt the Tigers with their kicking turnovers. 
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: jackstar is back again on February 15, 2010, 06:36:25 PM
Football is a game of possesion.
Most of our players fail in this area.
Connors is top of the class I am afraid
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on February 15, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
Thats fine WP you have your opinion and I have mine, actually I even think Tuck played a better game than him on Saturday. I just don't think he has got what it takes to play AFL and will more than likely be gone at the end of the year with Tuck.

He can follow his oponent all he likes for 1000 metres around the ground but he still didn't get the ball, or do anything to hurt the opposition. At least Tuck and Connors tried to run and carry, Polo did little for mine.

Actually felt for Tucky - he seemed a bit lost in the sense he didn't quite know what his role was.

I got very frustrated with his short kicks - would rather see him kick it longer, rather than those short "dinky" nothing passes that float to the opposition

And BTW you are missing a very important point regarding Connors and Tuck too now you've mentioned it - they didn't hurt the opposition they hurt the Tigers with their kicking turnovers. 

Well WP we could probably argue the for and againsts for each player till the cows come home. In all honesty though the team just did not click on Saturday night with each other or the game plan. A lot of players looked as though they were unsure as where to go or even where the ball was coming from. Perhaps when the game plan sinks in a bit more we will actually be able to see whether or not players like Polo can perform. The last qtr was a bit of an indication on how we COULD perform, we just need to do ity more often and from the start of the game. All in good time though. BTW I am not really sure if Polo's disposal was any better Saturday but there again he didn't get the ball enough for me to judge him on that one.... ;D
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on March 01, 2010, 11:31:41 AM
What are our thoughts on Polo now, do we think he can slot in some ware in the team? I dont think he can play forward so where do we need to put him??
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Infamy on March 01, 2010, 11:35:42 AM
Not sure how anyone could have re-evaluated him in the past week given no one has really seen him play since
To be fair he had trained as a forward all pre-season then come the Hawthorn game was thrown down back again as the ball never went forward
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on March 01, 2010, 11:42:45 AM
Not sure how anyone could have re-evaluated him in the past week given no one has really seen him play since
To be fair he had trained as a forward all pre-season then come the Hawthorn game was thrown down back again as the ball never went forward

He played in the practice game for Coburg and was apparently very frustrated and angry, did not go too well.... don't shoot the messenger that is what I read from a report!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: tiga on March 01, 2010, 11:43:20 AM
I still don't rate him and at this early stage he is yet to prove me wrong. I hope he does btw, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
He is too slow for mine esp in the forward line. His only saving grace is that he can kick reasonably well but he has to get the footy first.

So its a big wait and see for me and if he doesn't rip a game or two out of his backside, he will be at Coburg for most of the time.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on March 01, 2010, 11:44:56 AM
I still don't rate him and at this early stage he is yet to prove me wrong. I hope he does btw, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
He is too slow for mine esp in the forward line. His only saving grace is that he can kick reasonably well but he has to get the footy first.

So its a big wait and see for me and if he doesn't rip a game or two out of his backside, he will be at Coburg for most of the time.


That is where I am at with him I am afraid.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Infamy on March 01, 2010, 11:54:39 AM
Not sure how anyone could have re-evaluated him in the past week given no one has really seen him play since
To be fair he had trained as a forward all pre-season then come the Hawthorn game was thrown down back again as the ball never went forward

He played in the practice game for Coburg and was apparently very frustrated and angry, did not go too well.... don't shoot the messenger that is what I read from a report!!!!!!
You admit that you don't rate him and weren't at the game then you are picking out a negative comment from a 3rd party to revisit the issue. As I said, there's no new information to reasses him.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: WA Tiger on March 01, 2010, 12:11:12 PM
Not sure how anyone could have re-evaluated him in the past week given no one has really seen him play since
To be fair he had trained as a forward all pre-season then come the Hawthorn game was thrown down back again as the ball never went forward

He played in the practice game for Coburg and was apparently very frustrated and angry, did not go too well.... don't shoot the messenger that is what I read from a report!!!!!!
You admit that you don't rate him and weren't at the game then you are picking out a negative comment from a 3rd party to revisit the issue. As I said, there's no new information to reasses him.

Man you need to get laid!!!! The report was from someone at the game Inf, the negative was the only comment so that is what I had to pick from, there was nothing positive said about his game. BTW , no I don't rate him but do you think it's justified????? Really, what has he done since his first game????
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: tiga on March 01, 2010, 12:15:29 PM
The only Polo highlight I can recall was when he toweled up Buddy down in Tassie a while back. Its been a long time between drinks and the fans are thirsty. I think Roberts will take his spot if they persist with him in the forward line.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Beren on March 01, 2010, 02:05:11 PM
Haven't seen Polo live at all this year except at training so I won't comment on his form this year.
However I saw him live in every game he played in Melb last year & he is one of the hardest off the ball workers I've seen.
He was absolutley crucified by Wallace who tried to offload him to the Aints in 08.
Not going to give up on him till I see him this year, he must have something as Dimma kept him on the list.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Danog on March 01, 2010, 04:49:30 PM
Not sure how anyone could have re-evaluated him in the past week given no one has really seen him play since
To be fair he had trained as a forward all pre-season then come the Hawthorn game was thrown down back again as the ball never went forward

He played in the practice game for Coburg and was apparently very frustrated and angry, did not go too well.... don't shoot the messenger that is what I read from a report!!!!!!

That's because he played the majority of the time in the forward-line.  Do you remember the score?  It's not as if there were a lot of inside 50s for us.  When he moved to the midfield he impacted the game.  He's one of the few players that we have that can consistently win in a 1 on 1 situation.  Persist.  Rather have him than Hislop.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Infamy on March 01, 2010, 06:19:07 PM
The only Polo highlight I can recall was when he toweled up Buddy down in Tassie a while back. Its been a long time between drinks and the fans are thirsty. I think Roberts will take his spot if they persist with him in the forward line.
Didn't see his debut match?
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 01, 2010, 07:05:09 PM
The only Polo highlight I can recall was when he toweled up Buddy down in Tassie a while back. Its been a long time between drinks and the fans are thirsty. I think Roberts will take his spot if they persist with him in the forward line.
Didn't see his debut match?

He won the "'boomerang "" that night, Dreamtime  Game.
His smile when he got awarded I will never forget.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Danog on March 01, 2010, 07:43:15 PM
I require video footage of his debut game.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 01, 2010, 07:58:21 PM
I require video footage of his debut game.

Played on a wing, kicked 2 or 3 goals, over 20 quality possesions
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Danog on March 01, 2010, 08:05:00 PM
Oh, I knew that jacko.  I just wanted to SEE it again.  ;)
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Penelope on March 01, 2010, 08:06:29 PM
Wouldn't be the fist bloke to bust onto the scene in a blaze of glory, only to disappear without having made any real impact.
Sadly that is starting to look more than likely.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 01, 2010, 08:29:36 PM
Got a bit "'ahead "' of himself.
Turned up to a game one day with the ""Checker Board "" haircut.
was told to get rid of it in no uncertain manner.
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Danog on March 01, 2010, 08:33:46 PM
Got a bit "'ahead "' of himself.
Turned up to a game one day with the ""Checker Board "" haircut.
I told to get rid of it in no uncertain manner.
What?
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Beren on March 02, 2010, 10:40:19 AM
Terry didn't like him. Dean was extremely frustrated wiht the treatment he got from TW (he was not the only one I'm told). 
Title: Re: Dean Polo - 2010 expectations?
Post by: Mr Magic on March 02, 2010, 05:57:34 PM
I expect him to play every game this season.