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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: TigerLand on January 10, 2010, 01:55:38 AM

Title: Spud Era.
Post by: TigerLand on January 10, 2010, 01:55:38 AM
Is almost dead.

Just looked at the list only 4 players are left on the list that played under Danny.

Moore
Jackson
Newman
Tuck

The only other was Simmonds but think he may have started in 05.
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: eliminator on January 10, 2010, 09:28:35 AM
An era defined by poor recruitment
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: Fishfinger on January 10, 2010, 09:32:27 AM
Foley is the 5th remaining who was recruited under Frawley. Didn't play a senior game under him.
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: yellowandback on January 10, 2010, 09:50:32 AM
An error defined by poor recruitment

***edited for accuracy***
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: mightytiges on January 10, 2010, 10:49:14 PM
Is almost dead.

Just looked at the list only 4 players are left on the list that played under Danny.

Moore
Jackson
Newman
Tuck

The only other was Simmonds but think he may have started in 05.
Yep Simmo was traded for by Plough in exchange for Fiora. As FF said Foley is the 5th one. Both he and Kel were rookies at the time and yet to be promoted or debut. So we have no players left selected sub-pick 50 during Spud's reign and only 5 in total ::). This "group" should now be making up our senior core and carrying most of the workload of the side. Thanks Spud  :banghead.
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: Mr Magic on January 11, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
Yep pee poor. Quite a few have departed from the Plough era now too.
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: tiga on January 11, 2010, 09:50:15 PM
We did play finals!  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: Con65 on January 13, 2010, 04:43:47 PM
And that is why Plough said our window would not be open until 2011....when the 04 and 05 recruits had 6 and 5 years under their belts...

We will be hurting for a few more years as a result of the Spud years... 
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: Coach on January 13, 2010, 05:50:49 PM
And that is why Plough said our window would not be open until 2011....when the 04 and 05 recruits had 6 and 5 years under their belts...

We will be hurting for a few more years as a result of the Spud years... 

As a result of the Spud years? How about the Wallet years? He added his fair share of poo too.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: Mr Magic on January 14, 2010, 02:57:32 AM
As a result of the Spud years? How about the Wallet years? He added his fair share of poo too.  :thumbsup

Certainly has. 2011?  :lol
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: Con65 on January 14, 2010, 11:58:54 AM
As a result of the Spud years? How about the Wallet years? He added his fair share of poo too.  :thumbsup

I disagree...lids, bling, riew, vickery, post, collins, morton, nahas, foley, moore, mcguane, etc were all either recruited or given their chance under Wallace...many of these kids will be the nucleaus of our team for the next 5 or so years....I will be very surprised if after 5 years only 4 or 5 Wallace recruits remain at the club....
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: Mr Magic on January 14, 2010, 12:23:20 PM
I disagree...

You disagree Wallet added his fair share of poo?? :lol
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: Coach on January 14, 2010, 02:09:50 PM
As a result of the Spud years? How about the Wallet years? He added his fair share of poo too.  :thumbsup

I disagree...lids, bling, riew, vickery, post, collins, morton, nahas, foley, moore, mcguane, etc were all either recruited or given their chance under Wallace...many of these kids will be the nucleaus of our team for the next 5 or so years....I will be very surprised if after 5 years only 4 or 5 Wallace recruits remain at the club....

Ah, a Wallace fan.  ;D Deledio, Vickery, Tambo, Riewoldt etc etc are all first round picks. I'm not going to give him credit for them. He and the recruiting staff did well on the Morton trade, but spoiled it with McMahon.  Of course he's going to have some players that did well for him, but in the end his time here was a big failure. FIVE YEARS and we were nowhere near a decent finals campaign....he was here for FIVE YEARS and we're rebuilding again. :scream

As a result of the Spud years? How about the Wallet years? He added his fair share of poo too.  :thumbsup

Certainly has. 2011?  :lol

 :lol
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: FNM on January 14, 2010, 08:31:41 PM
Turning over an entire dud list is a pretty unenviable position for any coach to be in
No wonder we're where we are now
Don't ever forget what this buffoon did to our club  :banghead
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: Con65 on January 14, 2010, 08:33:58 PM
Ah, a Wallace fan.  ;D Deledio, Vickery, Tambo, Riewoldt etc etc are all first round picks. I'm not going to give him credit for them.

Do not make that assumption that I am a Wallace fan...just that I do not think he left the place in the same position as it was left when Spud left. The reality is that he inherited an ageing unskilled list...with very few matchwinners....of the players that Wallace cut - only Rodan and Meyer from memory are on other clubs lists (i dont count Ottens as he walked on the club)....in contrast to the spud years we now have 100 games in Lids, 90 odd into blingers, 50 to 60 odd + into the likes of Riew Jacko Moore McGuane Foley....all guys who will still be at the club in 3 years time when we are likely to be a force...

As for not giving him credit for first round picks...by the same token then I assume you do not criticise him for first round failures eg JON.
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: Coach on January 14, 2010, 09:04:28 PM
Ah, a Wallace fan.  ;D Deledio, Vickery, Tambo, Riewoldt etc etc are all first round picks. I'm not going to give him credit for them.

As for not giving him credit for first round picks...by the same token then I assume you do not criticise him for first round failures eg JON.

It was his job to develop the draftees, he didn't do a very good job with some of them. Why should I praise him for Tambo and Lids? He inherited those picks after Danny's last year as coach. 1st Rnd picks should become good players for you more often than not, but how many of ours have? Our drafting has been nowhere near good enough for a long time.

Spud may have been terrible but Wallet wasn't a whole lot better.



Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on January 17, 2010, 01:34:02 AM
Wallet was smart in that he was media savvy and had an answer for all questions. Furthermore he was able to answer questions by not answeing the questions actually asked by providing an answer that skimmed on the question asked and ranted on an unrelated topic.

Danny unfortunantely did not have the streetwise intellect to battle it out with the journos and spoke of cherry ripes and sticking fat.

The Dried Sultana has left the list in a slightly better state than Spud but with the credentialls that Wallace arrived with at Punt Rd his failures are far more greater now and damning than what Danny's are based on street wise intelligence in handling the media and a tactical acumen that he was so famous for at the kennel.

Even if in 4 or 5 years time we attain the ultimate on field success with Deledio as captain there should be very little or no mention of Wallet. Just as when Hawthorn won the flag in 2008 there was no reference to Schwab. Let's confine both of these disaster stories in Spud and Wallet to the history pages and move on.
Title: Re: Spud Era.
Post by: Mr Magic on January 19, 2010, 12:07:12 AM
Wallet was smart in that he was media savvy and had an answer for all questions. Furthermore he was able to answer questions by not answeing the questions actually asked by providing an answer that skimmed on the question asked and ranted on an unrelated topic.

That is a scathingly accurate assessment of the silver tongue.