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Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen | Tue 12 January, 2010
RICHMOND players have already seen a mean streak in new coach Damien Hardwick at pre-season training but he is not as tough as many players were expecting.
Key Tiger forward Jack Riewoldt has moved to dent the tough man persona that is starting to build up around Hardwick.
"He's not as hard as everyone thought he was going to be," Riewoldt told richmondfc.com.au after Tuesday training at Punt Rd. "But he has got that mean streak about him that we've seen a bit of, that intensity."
There's a lot down at Richmond that's new in 2010 - not just a new coach, but a mostly new coaching staff and - with the departure of club legend Matthew Richardson - a new post-Richo era.
The Tigers snapped up Danny Daly - who supported the Tigers in his younger years - from North Melbourne to be the forward coach, Brendon Lade (ruck and midfield) from Port Adelaide and Justin Leppitsch (backline) from the Lions to revamp their coaching panel.
"We've got a young coaching staff and a new vibrant game plan, which we're all looking forward to putting into place, hopefully in round one," Riewoldt said.
"Danny's going really well, he's really good - he's obviously learning the game-plan just as we are at the moment.
"It's good to have a new face and someone with a few new ideas to come to the club to show us how to run the forward line this year."
Richardson played just six games in 2009 before his troublesome hamstring tendon ended his season and, ultimately, his career.
But Riewoldt said the departure of the larger-than-life figure would open the door for others, including himself.
"We're looking at it as a positive - it's sad to see such a great player and a champion of the club go, but on the other hand, we've got a lot of young players coming through and if they're going to step up, this is their chance.
"Last year was a big stepping stone for me - obviously Richo only played the six games at the start of the year, and after that I felt that it was my role to stand up as the key target in the forward line.
"But there's Mitch Morton as well, and young Dave Astbury is coming through, and Jayden Post is there as well, so we've got a lot of young talls that can play, and hopefully we can fill that void.
"Jayden is moving alright - he's got a lot to learn, as we all do, with this new game plan, but he's fit and well and looking good on the track."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/88611/default.aspx
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Jack's arms are getting some size to them.
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/AFL%20F-J/Riewoldt_Jack_train_246b.jpg)
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"He's not as hard as everyone thought he was going to be,"
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Hardwick should flog Riewoldt on track and make him train till he spews
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Hardwick should flog Riewoldt on track and make him train till he spews
Agree Ramps.
I know that the club probably sought out comment from Riewoldt in order to keep the news ticking over and help membership, but in what other job does an employee come out and give his boss a job appraisal in public?
They should be too scared of Dimma to utter a word.
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Jack is a Malaka.
Always mouthing off on field,probably not being listened to.
Talks like he's a life member already.
STFU and string more than 2 games together and then we'll listen......maybe but not likely.
malaka!
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He probably just meant that Hardwick is not an arse hole hard coach, there is a difference, he may not be that good with words our Jack. But yes lets have a public flogging of the kid...... FFS..... :banghead
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Bad article
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Bad article
Another informative piece of eloquence from Jack.
:thumbsup
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What's a piece of eloquence and is it edible ?
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What's a piece of eloquence and is it edible ?
It's a french chocolate "coloured" pastry.
:thumbsup
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Maybe for a better picture of the new hardwick era,a more seasoned campaigner would have given us a better insight...perhaps
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I loved the bit where he bags his own team mate saying Jayden has a lot to learn but then then tries to save it with an "As we all do".
Keep this guy away from mic's and journo's at all costs!
Step 1, put brain in gear! Step 2, think! Step 3, talk! (provided there is no pained facial expression of furrowed brow on steps 1 & 2!!!!) :banghead
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Jack is a Malaka.
Always mouthing off on field,probably not being listened to.
Talks like he's a life member already.
STFU and string more than 2 games together and then we'll listen......maybe but not likely.
malaka!
:lol :thumbsup
Yeah, tiga, I didn't like that bit either. Riewoldt has a bit to learn himself. Had a couple of good games last season though.
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I loved the bit where he bags his own team mate saying Jayden has a lot to learn but then then tries to save it with an "As we all do".
Keep this guy away from mic's and journo's at all costs!
Step 1, put brain in gear! Step 2, think! Step 3, talk! (provided there is no pained facial expression of furrowed brow on steps 1 & 2!!!!) :banghead
Totally agree
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I think a few might have missed a couple of salient points here.
The article was written by the club employee - Mic Cullen - and published on the club site so there is no way on God's green earth that any single syllable, let alone word or sentence or paragraph, was not planned and vetted and sanctioned by those responsible for media releases within the club. This article/interview is nothing more than a pre-planned PR piece with a specific outcome in mind - maybe the 'humanising' of the Hardwick persona or the 'elevating' of Riewoldt's leadership credentials - whatever, don't read too much into it and hang the kid for something that he would have had very little say in or control over.
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C'mon Smokey don't let common sense get in the way of a slagging off at a young kid
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who is Jack Riewoldt?
:)
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I think a few might have missed a couple of salient points here.
The article was written by the club employee - Mic Cullen - and published on the club site so there is no way on God's green earth that any single syllable, let alone word or sentence or paragraph, was not planned and vetted and sanctioned by those responsible for media releases within the club. This article/interview is nothing more than a pre-planned PR piece with a specific outcome in mind - maybe the 'humanising' of the Hardwick persona or the 'elevating' of Riewoldt's leadership credentials - whatever, don't read too much into it and hang the kid for something that he would have had very little say in or control over.
:thumbsup :thumbsup
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I think a few might have missed a couple of salient points here.
The article was written by the club employee - Mic Cullen - and published on the club site so there is no way on God's green earth that any single syllable, let alone word or sentence or paragraph, was not planned and vetted and sanctioned by those responsible for media releases within the club. This article/interview is nothing more than a pre-planned PR piece with a specific outcome in mind - maybe the 'humanising' of the Hardwick persona or the 'elevating' of Riewoldt's leadership credentials - whatever, don't read too much into it and hang the kid for something that he would have had very little say in or control over.
smoke I understand your point but lets be honest does anyone have any confidence in anything or anyone at our club? its a rubbish article that can be interpreted in many different ways from trying to humanise hardwick, to trying to lift the Riewoldt leadership profile but what if some anti Richmond journos decide that this article was the beginning of players trying to undermine the coach, that Hardwick lacks the support of players ... what happens when we lose afew games late in year 2, could this article be used down the track to continue the pressure or put pressure on the coach. Its a rubbish article, the club shouldnt have put it on the net and that they allowed it to be so shows we have much to learn PR wise.
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smoke I understand your point but lets be honest does anyone have any confidence in anything or anyone at our club?
No Ramps, not a lot but the club personnel aren't all dills either and off field they have been getting better and smarter and more professional for a few years now.
its a rubbish article that can be interpreted in many different ways from trying to humanise hardwick, to trying to lift the Riewoldt leadership profile but what if some anti Richmond journos decide that this article was the beginning of players trying to undermine the coach, that Hardwick lacks the support of players ... what happens when we lose afew games late in year 2, could this article be used down the track to continue the pressure or put pressure on the coach. Its a rubbish article, the club shouldnt have put it on the net and that they allowed it to be so shows we have much to learn PR wise.
No non-aligned journo would even think twice about risking his professional reputation or ego responding in any way to any of these fluff pieces that every club trots out over the summer. Its one of a thousand rubbish articles that every club puts out and no-one takes any individual notice of - the intent is to convey the message that the club wants by continual reinforcement through 'media' outlets. We all know that if they say it often enough it becomes a fact and that's all these pieces are - small parts of an eventual 'bigger picture' fact. I was merely highlighting how some on here had jumped down Jack's throat when he would have been an innocent pawn in the whole thing - not his fault and you can bet London to a brick that neither him, Hardwick or the rest of the team paid it even one nanosecond of attention.
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Jack will be allright dont worry about that.
He is a hell of a lot better than most hacks we have down there. Given some support he will be a gem
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smoke I understand your point but lets be honest does anyone have any confidence in anything or anyone at our club?
No Ramps, not a lot but the club personnel aren't all dills either and off field they have been getting better and smarter and more professional for a few years now.
its a rubbish article that can be interpreted in many different ways from trying to humanise hardwick, to trying to lift the Riewoldt leadership profile but what if some anti Richmond journos decide that this article was the beginning of players trying to undermine the coach, that Hardwick lacks the support of players ... what happens when we lose afew games late in year 2, could this article be used down the track to continue the pressure or put pressure on the coach. Its a rubbish article, the club shouldnt have put it on the net and that they allowed it to be so shows we have much to learn PR wise.
No non-aligned journo would even think twice about risking his professional reputation or ego responding in any way to any of these fluff pieces that every club trots out over the summer. Its one of a thousand rubbish articles that every club puts out and no-one takes any individual notice of - the intent is to convey the message that the club wants by continual reinforcement through 'media' outlets. We all know that if they say it often enough it becomes a fact and that's all these pieces are - small parts of an eventual 'bigger picture' fact. I was merely highlighting how some on here had jumped down Jack's throat when he would have been an innocent pawn in the whole thing - not his fault and you can bet London to a brick that neither him, Hardwick or the rest of the team paid it even one nanosecond of attention.
Would say this smokey, the club isnt that smart and they are dills down there.
You have short memory.
Lets rewind the clock back 8 months ago to the Craig Cameron/Chris Newman presser on Terry Wallace, the one where they were standing in front of the Jack Dyer statue.
They are better off saying nothing at punt road, trust me, I know
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We have been starved of Tiger news this off season and I reckon a few here are reading too much into this article.
Bring on the season..
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it says what it says...and that is,the RFC is still falling short in the public relations department,needless to say in multiple other areas.
It can't even get ot right when it does an in house IV to be published on its own website.
Reiwoldt needs to stfu and improve.
We don't need to hear what a kid who talks to nobody has to say about a new coach.
This forum is to debate such points so please don't take to "predictable" retorts ala picking on a kid who is still a virgin....
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lmao@ Humanising Hardwick in an attempt to give him a Leigh Matthews vibe when really, he's just another filler until such a time as when the clubs gets the list rite in which time he'll be long dead.
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Have to agree with smokey on this one. Jacks been given leave to waft his musk all over the role for this year, he has been annointed as the big man up forward and judging by his arms, looks like his is finally filling out to match his height. He wont be pushed about this season which I thought was the only missing ingredient. Quiet excited to see him in action actually. I don't mind him having a bit of character about him as long as it is good natured, which I have always seen it to be, bit of a poo stirring of the other fellas. :thumbsup
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Would say this smokey, the club isnt that smart and they are dills down there.
You have short memory.
Lets rewind the clock back 8 months ago to the Craig Cameron/Chris Newman presser on Terry Wallace, the one where they were standing in front of the Jack Dyer statue.
They are better off saying nothing at punt road, trust me, I know
I disagree Jack, I don't think they are all dills or even that many of them are. If some are then they are few and far between and reducing in number. As for short memories, how about remembering the disgraceful state of this club when it was run by dills 5 years ago. Led by Casey, this club had been taken from a position of financial stability and mediocre performance to one of near-financial ruin and terrible performance. The board was largely made up of dills and so was the internal management team, hence the situation our club found itself in circa 2004. Make no mistake, in 2004 this club was closer to folding than during the Save Our Skins crisis.
Since then we have had a board election in which some of the dills were removed and an almost total cleanout of management personnel - again, removing much of the deadwood dills. March and the new board has overseen a financial stabilization that has allowed our club to survive. We had 5 years of Wallace that did not advance our on-field cause but apart from the dills involved within the football department at the time, there were serious mitigating circumstances tied to the precarious financial position that compounded the issue of dills. Now, this board has been able to begin the task of turning around the on-field position and performance by increasing spending in a prudently managed manner that will give some guarantee of competitiveness in the future.
Yes, we have made mistakes in the past 5 years but not nearly as many or of such catastrophic consequence as before and as each year of March's reign goes by these mistakes become fewer and less 'impacting'. We now have a board that contains professionally successful people that, as a group, have demonstrated a capacity to guide our club on a path of improvement and future longevity and success. We have a very highly regarded CEO who has just replaced a very successful CEO. We have personnel in managerial positions that are now raising our profile and performance, and as far as the football department goes - even though Cameron and Jackson have been lambasted by a couple on here for 'non-performance' the fact is they have done very little that can be labeled as wrong in the short times both have been in their current positions.
Even though season 2009 was a serious blow to our hopes for the future and brought much negative attention to our club, through it all we handled ourselves collectively quite well and came out of it looking far more professional and in control than we could ever have dreamed of doing in the past. None of our press coverage last year was going to look good, regardless of who was doing the talking and what they were saying - our ego's took a hammering in Round 1 that we all took personally and many of us looked inwardly to pass any blame or point fingers in order to satisfy our feelings of responsibility for failure. The dills of years past would have turned our 2009 upheaval into a shambles of much greater and longer lasting impact than what eventually 'shook out on the ground'. We managed the antics of Sheedy, the removal of Wallace and his men, the search for a new coach, and the disillusioned expectations of our supporters very well, despite what the finger pointers would like to believe.
So no Jack, I don't believe we are a club of dills. Conversely, I believe we are a club of sound management that is taking baby-steps toward eventual success and I don't believe we have taken one backward step since our era of dills came to an end in 2004. We might not have succeeded as quickly as some would have liked but we are moving in the right direction with the right people, not dills.
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The club looked like complete dills with the handling of the Terry Wallace saga last year.
Also March looked like a complete dill on several occasions last year,
One day he said bluntly that we would not be taking Cousins under any circumstance and then he is falling in love with him , even to the extent that Cuz stayed at Marchs place for 3 weeks.
And there is a reason why Steve Wright aint there anymore, but we will move on.
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The club looked like complete dills with the handling of the Terry Wallace saga last year.
Also March looked like a complete dill on several occasions last year,
One day he said bluntly that we would not be taking Cousins under any circumstance and then he is falling in love with him , even to the extent that Cuz stayed at Marchs place for 3 weeks.
And there is a reason why Steve Wright aint there anymore, but we will move on.
Yeah, as if.
::)
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Marchy (as Wallace kept calling him in the weeks leading up to his sacking) has been on the board since 2002 and was vp in 2005. So he may not be a dill but it was a soft cok effort to allow all the incompetence around him - the losses and the appoinment of Wallace. At worst he is a dill and being a soft cok and a dill makes him a dilldodo!
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PS Jack is over rated, if he was at the Cats noone would want to talk to him and Cats fans would most probably be less than impressed with those guns, compare 'em to about 30 other cats players.
Case of judging on potential not performance. It's a disease at Richmond
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Marchy (as Wallace kept calling him in the weeks leading up to his sacking) has been on the board since 2002 and was vp in 2005. So he may not be a dill but it was a soft cok effort to allow all the incompetence around him - the losses and the appoinment of Wallace. At worst he is a dill and being a soft cok and a dill makes him a dilldodo!
Or was he the one responsible for removing each and every dill as the opportunity arose?
He wasn't in charge when Wallace was signed for 5 years and Casey rode roughshod over the whole operation until his demise so whatever March or any other board member said up to that point was most likely going to be ignored. How do you know March didn't speak out in board meetings? Once in power, if he sacked Wallace early then he risked the "Richmond always sack coaches" mob going feral again and he had more important issues to work on first - ensuring the longevity of the club by getting the financial house in order. He did that, then has gradually increased the revenue available to the football department and then removed Wallace and his gang when he was able to with as little negativity or detriment to the club as possible. All I can see is a President who has removed the incompetence around him at the most opportune or only available times. Not taking action when your knee jerk attitude demands doesn't necessarily mean he is soft - there is a lot more to taking action or no action, than meets the eye.
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PS Jack is over rated, if he was at the Cats noone would want to talk to him and Cats fans would most probably be less than impressed with those guns, compare 'em to about 30 other cats players.
Case of judging on potential not performance. It's a disease at Richmond
I certainly agree with all of that.
Jack Riewoldt has achieved very little in the game to date.
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The club looked like complete dills with the handling of the Terry Wallace saga last year.
Also March looked like a complete dill on several occasions last year,
One day he said bluntly that we would not be taking Cousins under any circumstance and then he is falling in love with him , even to the extent that Cuz stayed at Marchs place for 3 weeks.
And there is a reason why Steve Wright aint there anymore, but we will move on.
How did the Wallace thing make the club look like dills? Contracts end, he was surplus to requirements, the media makes up their own soap opera, that is not the fault of the club.
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PS Jack is over rated, if he was at the Cats noone would want to talk to him and Cats fans would most probably be less than impressed with those guns, compare 'em to about 30 other cats players.
Case of judging on potential not performance. It's a disease at Richmond
A. who gives a stuff about the cats or their fans (or their 'guns')???
B. Jack is rated just fine inside and outside of the club, he will probably sink or swim this year. If he was put up as trade bait they would of been all over him like flies on an poo. One day we will refer back to this thread and one of us may have to eat our words on Jack, I am a humble bloke and will do so without complaint but I am steadfast in my belief that he will be a good forward for us.
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PS Jack is over rated, if he was at the Cats noone would want to talk to him and Cats fans would most probably be less than impressed with those guns, compare 'em to about 30 other cats players.
Case of judging on potential not performance. It's a disease at Richmond
A. who gives a eff about the cats or their fans (or their 'guns')???
B. Jack is rated just fine inside and outside of the club, he will probably sink or swim this year. If he was put up as trade bait they would of been all over him like flies on an poo. One day we will refer back to this thread and one of us may have to eat our words on Jack, I am a humble bloke and will do so without complaint but I am steadfast in my belief that he will be a good forward for us.
correct.
he will be a good forward for us just needs some help around there. The likes of Hughes and Petrified isn't exactly a forward line who can assist him.
Thank stuff for Nahas and the likes of Post coming through
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PS Jack is over rated, if he was at the Cats noone would want to talk to him and Cats fans would most probably be less than impressed with those guns, compare 'em to about 30 other cats players.
Case of judging on potential not performance. It's a disease at Richmond
I certainly agree with all of that.
Jack Riewoldt has achieved very little in the game to date.
He's on par with his cousin at the same stage of his career
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Riewoldt is still a 3rd forward. We need Griffiths to come through.
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PS Jack is over rated, if he was at the Cats noone would want to talk to him and Cats fans would most probably be less than impressed with those guns, compare 'em to about 30 other cats players.
Case of judging on potential not performance. It's a disease at Richmond
I certainly agree with all of that.
Jack Riewoldt has achieved very little in the game to date.
He's on par with his cousin at the same stage of his career
Classic case right there.
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Or was he the one responsible for removing each and every dill as the opportunity arose?
He wasn't in charge when Wallace was signed for 5 years and Casey rode roughshod over the whole operation until his demise so whatever March or any other board member said up to that point was most likely going to be ignored. How do you know March didn't speak out in board meetings? Once in power, if he sacked Wallace early then he risked the "Richmond always sack coaches" mob going feral again and he had more important issues to work on first - ensuring the longevity of the club by getting the financial house in order. He did that, then has gradually increased the revenue available to the football department and then removed Wallace and his gang when he was able to with as little negativity or detriment to the club as possible. All I can see is a President who has removed the incompetence around him at the most opportune or only available times. Not taking action when your knee jerk attitude demands doesn't necessarily mean he is soft - there is a lot more to taking action or no action, than meets the eye.
I agree entirely Smokey....March and his board have slowly but surely put in place some corporate governance so that the business of RFC runs smoothly and efficiently regardless of who is President...there is now accountability by the football department...which was not there previously...
As for the backflip on Cuz....I suggest people ask those in the football department why that occurred....from my knowledge, Wallace got a large say in who was recruited in the PSD...Wallace was trying to coach the team into the finals to renew his contract....I have no issues with the so called backflip....people, boards, clubs are allowed to change their minds without being lambasted for it...we all do it daily at home and at work....so what is the big deal if the RFC did it too...actually it shows some maturity to do so...and not make decisions that are set in stone...So far no one is suggesting that the so called Cuz backflip was a mistake...on the contrary...Cuz was one of the few on field leaders at the club last year....
I am supportive of teh president and the board...they have a vision and they are slowly implementing it....well done.
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I cant believe some of you clowns are bagging this kid at such an early stage, stuff me he is so new to AFL. Surley one of you ........... well I will call you people.. can see that he is developing every year and big men take longer. This year he has bulked up even more.
Opinions are one thing but their don't seem to be any structured or faactual comments based on why he is "so" bad at this early stage of his career. All I read is "he is no good" (great comment), on par with his cousin (magic stuff), achieved very little (how longs he been in the team...dill).
In years to come he will be one of the best forwards in the comp IMO and a leader at our club.
Get off his back give him a chance or stuff off............... :banghead :banghead :banghead
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I cant believe some of you clowns are bagging this kid at such an early stage, eff me he is so new to AFL. Surley one of you ........... well I will call you people.. can see that he is developing every year and big men take longer. This year he has bulked up even more.
Opinions are one thing but their don't seem to be any structured or faactual comments based on why he is "so" bad at this early stage of his career. All I read is "he is no good" (great comment), on par with his cousin (magic stuff), achieved very little (how longs he been in the team...dill).
In years to come he will be one of the best forwards in the comp IMO and a leader at our club.
Get off his back give him a chance or eff off............... :banghead :banghead :banghead
OD on angry pills today WAT? ;D
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In years to come he will be one of the best forwards in the comp IMO and a leader at our club.
Get off his back give him a chance or eff off............... :banghead :banghead :banghead
Who's bagging him?
I hope he becomes one of the greatest in the game too like you're suggesting(Fact?) but he's not anywhere near there yet and unless I can borrow your crystal ball WAT is not a certainty to be what you say either. Right at this point in time he's a promising young KPP with some strengths and some flaws and that's it.
As for the f*** off comment. That's just childish.
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Of course he's not near it yet HE IS STILL DEVELOPING, but rather than look forward to him progressing you need to keep reminding us of how far away his is from it ....... apparently. I have also read a lot, hell of a lot more childish comments on this site than stuff off!!
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I cant believe some of you clowns are bagging this kid at such an early stage, eff me he is so new to AFL. Surley one of you ........... well I will call you people.. can see that he is developing every year and big men take longer. This year he has bulked up even more.
Opinions are one thing but their don't seem to be any structured or faactual comments based on why he is "so" bad at this early stage of his career. All I read is "he is no good" (great comment), on par with his cousin (magic stuff), achieved very little (how longs he been in the team...dill).
In years to come he will be one of the best forwards in the comp IMO and a leader at our club.
Get off his back give him a chance or eff off............... :banghead :banghead :banghead
OD on angry pills today WAT? ;D
Too many pills and too much time on my hands at the moment Smokey, laid up in bed with Pneumonia for the last 4 days I am afraid.
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In years to come he will be one of the best forwards in the comp IMO and a leader at our club.
Get off his back give him a chance or eff off............... :banghead :banghead :banghead
Who's bagging him?
I hope he becomes one of the greatest in the game too like you're suggesting(Fact?) but he's not anywhere near there yet and unless I can borrow your crystal ball WAT is not a certainty to be what you say either. Right at this point in time he's a promising young KPP with some strengths and some flaws and that's it.
As for the f*** off comment. That's just childish.
Remind me of a few players in the league that are the same age as Jack that are better than what he is.
Doubt you can name many.
Of he's not "there" yet but he's not expected to be.
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Of course he's not near it yet HE IS STILL DEVELOPING, but rather than look forward to him progressing you need to keep reminding us of how far away his is from it ....... apparently.
Yes he's developing (which is pretty much all I have said), yet you want to give us your (baseless) opinion that he's going to be a superstar. ::)
Your hypocrisy is quite amusing.
I have also read a lot, hell of a lot more childish comments on this site than eff off!!
Good for you. It's poor behaviour like yours that sometimes makes this site less appealing than others.
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Of course he's not near it yet HE IS STILL DEVELOPING, but rather than look forward to him progressing you need to keep reminding us of how far away his is from it ....... apparently.
Yes he's developing (which is pretty much all I have said), yet you want to give us your (baseless) opinion that he's going to be a superstar. ::)
Your hypocrisy is quite amusing.
I have also read a lot, hell of a lot more childish comments on this site than eff off!!
Good for you. It's poor behaviour like yours that sometimes makes this site less appealing than others.
Gee sorry, you must be the allmighty of this forum, don't worry "SIR" I have read many of your comments that I found completely useless too but you are obviously better than most so I will leave it at that.
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Marchy (as Wallace kept calling him in the weeks leading up to his sacking) has been on the board since 2002 and was vp in 2005. So he may not be a dill but it was a soft cok effort to allow all the incompetence around him - the losses and the appoinment of Wallace. At worst he is a dill and being a soft cok and a dill makes him a dilldodo!
Or was he the one responsible for removing each and every dill as the opportunity arose?
He wasn't in charge when Wallace was signed for 5 years and Casey rode roughshod over the whole operation until his demise so whatever March or any other board member said up to that point was most
likely going to be ignored. How do you know March didn't speak out in board meetings? Once in power, if he sacked Wallace early then he risked the "Richmond always sack coaches" mob going feral again and he had more important issues to work on first - ensuring the longevity of the club by getting the financial house in order. He did that, then has gradually increased the revenue available to the football department and then removed Wallace and his gang when he was able to with as little negativity or detriment to the club as possible. All I can see is a President who has removed the incompetence around him at the most opportune or only available times. Not taking action when your knee jerk attitude demands doesn't necessarily mean he is soft - there is a lot more to taking action or no action, than meets the eye.
I still say soft cok, allowing a president to ride roughsod over such a critical appointment as a coach is mutiny stuff - especially given our track record.
Good leadership involves making unpopular decisions. Fact. Soft coks wait, scared of reactions.
I do agree that it appears he is getting that solidarity but it has taken too long. He had 4 years on the board with Casey at the helm. We nearly went belly up. Lucky for him we didn't because it would have been a very different legacy to the one he is hopefully building at tigerland. Smokey all I am saying is he had 4 years where he wouldve seen some scary poo. 4 years is a long time to do nothing.
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Of course he's not near it yet HE IS STILL DEVELOPING, but rather than look forward to him progressing you need to keep reminding us of how far away his is from it ....... apparently. I have also read a lot, hell of a lot more childish comments on this site than eff off!!
I think he is over rated by tiger fans. That is not bagging him. Telling people to eff off is actually a very childish way of communicating. If (or when whatever you choose) he delivers on his potential, would not get a happier tiger fan. Bit sick of the self righteous crap to be honest. Having blind faith doesn't give you the right to tee off at posts that conflict with your thinking. It is the yes men to Casey, Miller and Wallace that got us into this mess. I hope being on "the same page" doesn't mean we continue the lack of challenge in how the club is run. Challenge, debate, argue be passionate then decide, agree and stfu to the media or Internet posters.
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Of course he's not near it yet HE IS STILL DEVELOPING, but rather than look forward to him progressing you need to keep reminding us of how far away his is from it ....... apparently. I have also read a lot, hell of a lot more childish comments on this site than eff off!!
I think he is over rated by tiger fans. That is not bagging him. Telling people to eff off is actually a very childish way of communicating. If (or when whatever you choose) he delivers on his potential, would not get a happier tiger fan. Bit sick of the self righteous crap to be honest. Having blind faith doesn't give you the right to tee off at posts that conflict with your thinking. It is the yes men to Casey, Miller and Wallace that got us into this mess. I hope being on "the same page" doesn't mean we continue the lack of challenge in how the club is run. Challenge, debate, argue be passionate then decide, agree and stfu to the media or Internet posters.
Well I am a bit sick of hypocrites too Y&B and me saying stuff off is a childish way a communicating but you calling our President a softie is not.... get a grip pal. People can think what the hell they want and I couldnt give a crap but I will stick by what ever the club does because in the end regardless of whether or not you agree or disagree to the players selected or where they are put on the feild the club will do what the believe is best and thats who I am backing in. Please sort your morals out before you try to call me childish again.
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Please sort your morals out before you try to call me childish again.
You're still at it!
Change your name to Preacher :rollin
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What is every behind hole going to bag me when I defend myself on what is apparently a forum as I am continually being reminded?? Stay out of the argument FNM it had nothing to do with you so dont jump on board with the numbers... we should call you loser.
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Please sort your morals out before you try to call me childish again.
You're still at it!
Change your name to Preacher :rollin
Pretty bad first post for a troll too by the way.
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we should call you loser.
They do anyway
water - duck - back :rollin
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we should call you loser.
They do anyway
water - duck - back :rollin
So FROARS change of name but not brain eh..... :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Of course he's not near it yet HE IS STILL DEVELOPING, but rather than look forward to him progressing you need to keep reminding us of how far away his is from it ....... apparently. I have also read a lot, hell of a lot more childish comments on this site than eff off!!
I think he is over rated by tiger fans. That is not bagging him. Telling people to eff off is actually a very childish way of communicating. If (or when whatever you choose) he delivers on his potential, would not get a happier tiger fan. Bit sick of the self righteous crap to be honest. Having blind faith doesn't give you the right to tee off at posts that conflict with your thinking. It is the yes men to Casey, Miller and Wallace that
got us into this mess. I hope being on "the same page" doesn't mean we continue the lack of challenge in how the club is run. Challenge, debate, argue be passionate then decide, agree and stfu to the media or Internet posters.
Well I am a bit sick of hypocrites too Y&B and me saying eff off is a childish way a communicating but you calling our President a softie is not.... get a grip pal. People can think what the hell they want and I couldnt give a crap but I will stick by what ever the club does because in the end regardless of whether or not you agree or disagree to the players selected or where they are put on the feild the club will do what the believe is best and thats who I am backing in. Please sort your morals out before you try to call me childish again.
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Just try and avoid judging peoples morals buddy. That is a bit over the top. You maybe a bit upset I called you childish but posting eff off is personally insulting.
Chill out.
Relax Max. Stay cool.
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we should call you loser.
They do anyway
water - duck - back :rollin
So FROARS change of name but not brain eh..... :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Cut me to the core with that one ::)
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we should call you loser.
They do anyway
water - duck - back :rollin
So FROARS change of name but not brain eh..... :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Cut me to the core with that one ::)
:sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep
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Topic = Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
Stick to it and stop with the rubbish insults
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PS Jack is over rated, if he was at the Cats noone would want to talk to him and Cats fans would most probably be less than impressed with those guns, compare 'em to about 30 other cats players.
Case of judging on potential not performance. It's a disease at Richmond
I certainly agree with all of that.
Jack Riewoldt has achieved very little in the game to date.
He's on par with his cousin at the same stage of his career
Classic case right there.
I'm actually not Riewolt's biggest fan, I haven't been 100% convinced of him as an AFL level player at all, however statistically he pretty much is on par with Nick at the same age
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The yips he had last season really concerned me and it took several games for him to get over them. The previous season he was far more confident in front of goal.
Did the coaching staff idiot around with his kicking technique? or was it a mindset thing? either way, I hope it has been resolved because he missed some pretty easy shots at goal last season. :banghead
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Make or break year for Jack. Like the kid but needs more consistency. Needs to kick 50+ goals this season. Will be the main focus in the forward line and needs to be mentally prepared for it. Physicall he has the stature and his preseason has shown he is working hard.
If he can achieve this and live adequately with the burden of this responsibility will be a gun. If not he'll be a David Mensch or Steve Handley type of player who'll only excel when the heat of the game is gone and the result is done and dusted or when distinctly inferior opposition come to town.
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Well interesting to read the two latest articles from King and Nahas regarding Hardwick, they both seem very impressed with Hardwick. Too tough or not sonds like he has the players respect and is doing something right... :thumbsup
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Well interesting to read the two latest articles from King and Nahas regarding Hardwick, they both seem very impressed with Hardwick. Too tough or not sonds like he has the players respect and is doing something right... :thumbsup
Can you take much out of those comments WAT? As players they can't say much else and i'm sure we would have got the same sought of stuff and the beginning of the Wallace era.
I'm not being critical of your comments because i have the same impression. Annoyingly we have to wait till the real stuff starts before we can start evaluating Dimma and his effect on the players. It is getting pretty close now though, gosh i can't wait, success or failure it will be entertaining either way...
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Well interesting to read the two latest articles from King and Nahas regarding Hardwick, they both seem very impressed with Hardwick. Too tough or not sonds like he has the players respect and is doing something right... :thumbsup
Can you take much out of those comments WAT? As players they can't say much else and i'm sure we would have got the same sought of stuff and the beginning of the Wallace era.
I'm not being critical of your comments because i have the same impression. Annoyingly we have to wait till the real stuff starts before we can start evaluating Dimma and his effect on the players. It is getting pretty close now though, gosh i can't wait, success or failure it will be entertaining either way...
Yeah I can see what you are talking about but I really think by the way they are talking.... well they talk about him with a real spring in their step if that makes any sense. Even Benny Gail talks about him the same way. I can't wait either and yes we will soon find out.... :thumbsup
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Ah well we can only feed off what we are thrown really unless we have a first hand experience lol and were all mad mugs for our club so we cling on to it all like soapy fiends :cheers
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Sadly it will all come crashing down after the knob opener against the Dawks in Tassie.
I am expecting nothing more.
Yea here I come .... :P
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Sadly it will all come crashing down after the knob opener against the Dawks in Tassie.
I am expecting nothing more.
Yea here I come .... :P
That's the spirit CUB! :whistle Is this your attempt to lower your own expectations so then any success we have will be a welcome surprise or is that that your true feelings?
The article on the AFL site where Hardwick is comparing our current state of development with Hawthorns 2004 list is a promising one while keeping supporters expectations in check. If we go on the Hawks timeline we will only jump up a couple of positions this year, have a crack at the finals in 2011 before have a tilt at the flag in 2013. I could live with this :thumbsup
Stripes
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Sadly it will all come crashing down after the knob opener against the Dawks in Tassie.
I am expecting nothing more.
Yea here I come .... :P
nostradamus lol
i expected at least a tougher unit, better skills
Not a good start and watching that dud campbell in the box is making me cringe for whats in store for us if dudwick has a crap year
another long, crappy, shiit year
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Deep down you really love Weener don't you FNM ;D.
I'd doubt Hardwick will be "not too tough" after tonight's game :P.
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Deep down you really love Weener don't you FNM ;D.
in a word, NO
Dont like player-led revolts either unless there's something of substance to believe in
I'd love them to be successful, i get no joy in losses like this
and i admit it is early days and no-one shiuld be hung and quartered on this performance,but this was pathetic
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dudwick
lol
Was 'Terry Wallet' one of yours as well?
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Deep down you really love Weener don't you FNM ;D.
in a word, NO
Dont like player-led revolts either unless there's something of substance to believe in
I'd love them to be successful, i get no joy in losses like this
and i admit it is early days and no-one shiuld be hung and quartered on this performance,but this was pathetic
It was pathetic but it sadly wasn't unexpected either. A premiership standard team from 18 months ago seeking redemption in their first hitout for the year against effectively a U23 side barring Tucky, Newy, Polly and Blingers off the top of my head. It's going to be another long year but we knew that already :-\
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Sadly it will all come crashing down after the knob opener against the Dawks in Tassie.
I am expecting nothing more.
Yea here I come .... :P
That's the spirit CUB! :whistle Is this your attempt to lower your own expectations so then any success we have will be a welcome surprise or is that that your true feelings?
An eachway bet Stripey :banghead
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Sadly it will all come crashing down after the knob opener against the Dawks in Tassie.
I am expecting nothing more.
Yea here I come .... :P
That's the spirit CUB! :whistle Is this your attempt to lower your own expectations so then any success we have will be a welcome surprise or is that that your true feelings?
Your prediction came true CUB. :help I'm getting tired of all the negative comments and opinions about my club proving to be the correct one's. Just becoming soul destroying... :weights
An eachway bet Stripey :banghead
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If Hardwick wants to make a statement about removing the ego and player power at Punt Rd, he may want to review Neil Craigs presser from the weekend.
He would be well advised not to get too close to the players and take this loss as an opp to really nail them.
We are too soft with our players and it's roll onto game day