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Title: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: one-eyed on January 27, 2010, 04:50:09 PM
2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers
allfooty.com
Tuesday, January 26, 2010


Best?

FB Rance, McGuane, Collins

HB Newman, Moore, Edwards

C Tambling, Foley, Jackson

HF Cousins, Vickery, Martin

FF Morton, Riewoldt, Nahas

Foll Graham, Deledio, Cotchin

bench Post, Thursfield, White, Tuck




Youth movement.

FB Newman, McGuane, Post

HB Rance, Moore, Collins

C Tambling, Martin, Jackson

HF Astbury, Vickery, Foley

FF Morton, Riewoldt, Nahas

Foll Graham, Deledio, Cotchin

bench Griffiths, Grimes, Connors, Farmer




Running team.

FB White, Thursfield, Newman

HB Edwards, Rance, Jackson

C Cotchin, Martin, Tambling

HF Post, Riewoldt, Cousins

FF Nahas, Morton, Connors

Foll Simmonds, Deledio, Foley

bench Vickery, Collins, Moore, Farmer

http://www.allfooty.info/2010/01/2010-best-lineup-richmond-tigers.html
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: the claw on January 27, 2010, 06:04:45 PM
hmm for me our best 22 with the future in mind would be.

FB/    Farmer - Thursfield - Moore.

HB/    Tambling -  Post - Newman.

C/      Collins -  Cousins -  Martin.

HF/    Cotchin -   Riewoldt -  Morton.

FF/     Vickery -  Polak -   Nahas.

R/      Simmonds - Deledio - Foley

INT/  Browne - Thomson - Webberley - Edwards - Taylor - Dea - Jackson.  
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 27, 2010, 06:10:37 PM
2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers
allfooty.com
Tuesday, January 26, 2010


Best?

FB Rance, McGuane, Collins

HB Newman, Moore, Edwards

C Tambling, Foley, Jackson

HF Cousins, Vickery, Martin

FF Morton, Riewoldt, Nahas

Foll Graham, Deledio, Cotchin

bench Post, Thursfield, White, Tuck


http://www.allfooty.info/2010/01/2010-best-lineup-richmond-tigers.html

Errrrrrrr NO

I will get to mine a bit later  ;D
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: one-eyed on January 29, 2010, 03:07:31 PM
You can pick your Richmond Best 22 on the AFL site and compare it with other supporters.

http://www.afl.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=15690&newsid=88914

Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: Stripes on January 29, 2010, 03:54:30 PM
Most supporters have little idea really. They are obviously uninformed and come Round 1 will be very surprized at some of the selections and positional changes.
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: Smokey on January 29, 2010, 04:46:51 PM
Most supporters have little idea really. They are obviously uninformed and come Round 1 will be very surprized at some of the selections and positional changes.

Unlike us here on OER hey Stripes?   ;D
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: Stripes on January 29, 2010, 09:45:56 PM
Most supporters have little idea really. They are obviously uninformed and come Round 1 will be very surprized at some of the selections and positional changes.

Unlike us here on OER hey Stripes?   ;D

We're slightly uninformed smokey instead of completely.  :whistle  The training reports we receive give us an insight into what positions players are training in, who is injured and what the coach is trying to achieve. This is where we here are slightly more informed than the average supporter who has no idea Polak is training as our full forward or Edwards in the backline or Morton in the midfield.

That's the difference but yeah, I see the irony of my comments  :-[

Stripes
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on January 29, 2010, 10:03:15 PM
My Round 1 team against Carlton is  ;D

FB: edwards thursfield newman
HB: tambling mcguane rance
C: collins cotchin white
HF: cousins post polak
FF: nahas reiwoldt morton
FOLL: graham deledio foley
INT: vickery martin jackson farmer

Would prefer to see Post start forward because griffiths and astbury probably won't be ready by Round 1
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: Smokey on January 29, 2010, 10:45:34 PM
Here's mine, assuming a full fit list:

FB       - Edwards   Moore       Newman
HB      - Tambling  McGuane   Rance
C        - Collins     Tuck         Cotchin
HF       - Polo        Reiwoldt   Morton
FF       - Nahas      Polak       Cousins

Foll     - Simmonds   Deledio   Foley

Int      - Vickery   Martin   Jackson   Thompson

Emerg - Post, Farmer, Graham.
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: Ramps on January 29, 2010, 11:43:20 PM
Here's mine, assuming a full fit list:

FB       - Edwards   Moore       Newman
HB      - Tambling  McGuane   Rance
C        - Collins     Tuck         Cotchin
HF       - Polo        Reiwoldt   Morton
FF       - Nahas      Polak       Cousins

Foll     - Simmonds   Deledio   Foley

Int      - Vickery   Martin   Jackson   Thompson

Emerg - Post, Farmer, Graham.

This is probably going to be very close to our R1 team. Although I would have Tuck - Out and Farmer in. Moving Martin into the middle. Rance and Post could be vying for a position as well.
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: torch on January 30, 2010, 01:04:51 AM
if i was coach and every player was available, this would be my team for Round 1.

Newman, Moore, Thursfield

Webberley, McGuane, Rance

Martin, Deledio, Tambling

Morton, Astbury, Riewoldt

Taylor, Griffiths, Nahas

Simmonds, Cotchin, Foley

Graham, Cousins, Post, Polo

this is the team after i submitted it to afl.com.au.

Newman, Thursfield, Rance

Moore, McGuane, McMahon

Tambling, Deledio, Cotchin

Cousins, Morton, Martin

Nahas, Riewoldt, Taylor

Graham, Jackson, Foley

Simmonds, Browne, Vickery, Edwards

 :)
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: Smokey on January 30, 2010, 10:38:38 AM
if i was coach and every player was available, this would be my team for Round 1.

Newman, Moore, Thursfield

Webberley, McGuane, Rance

Martin, Deledio, Tambling

Morton, Astbury, Riewoldt

Taylor, Griffiths, Nahas

Simmonds, Cotchin, Foley

Graham, Cousins, Post, Polo


Nothing like throwing the kids to the wolves hey Torch?   ;D

When you add in Cotchin, Graham, Rance, Nahas and Post, it would go down as one of the most inexperienced teams ever fielded in AFL history - average age of 22.4 years with 1286 games total in experience (average 58.45).
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: smasha on January 30, 2010, 01:02:35 PM
Most supporters have little idea really. They are obviously uninformed and come Round 1 will be very surprized at some of the selections and positional changes.

I leave it to the club.


Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: WA Tiger on January 30, 2010, 01:13:44 PM
Most supporters have little idea really. They are obviously uninformed and come Round 1 will be very surprized at some of the selections and positional changes.

That is the most correct statement I have read in ages and it transpires to just about about everything the club does including the draft and boy wasn't that proven yet again this year.

I rarely have a go at selecting the full squad to play any round let alone round 1. I do, like most, have a go at the in's and out's during the season but most of us can't even get that right.

It does go to show how very little we all know about the inner sanctum of our club and their thought process. It does make me laugh though when people select their team and then get narky when the RFC does not select the same players.... must show how little the RFC selection commitee know eh... :whistle

But it is a forum and thats what it's for.... :thumbsup
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on January 30, 2010, 01:55:59 PM
Here is my Round 1 team.

B  Farmer     Thursfield     McGuane

HB Rance      Moore        Newman

C Martin       Foley        Cotchin

HF Tambling   Post          Deledio

F Vickery   Riewoldt      Morton

Foll  Graham  Cousins    Tuck

Int  Nahas, Farmer, Collins, Polo

Emerg Taylor Edwards Griffiths
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: Smokey on January 30, 2010, 02:02:06 PM
Here is my Round 1 team.

B  Farmer     Thursfield     McGuane

HB Rance      Moore        Newman

C Martin       Foley        Cotchin

HF Tambling   Post          Deledio

F Vickery   Riewoldt      Morton

Foll  Graham  Cousins    Tuck

Int  Nahas, Farmer, Collins, Polo

Emerg Taylor Edwards Griffiths

Farmer's going to be busy Tucker!!
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on January 30, 2010, 02:06:07 PM
Here is my Round 1 team.

B  Farmer     Thursfield     McGuane

HB Rance      Moore        Newman

C Martin       Foley        Cotchin

HF Tambling   Post          Deledio

F Vickery   Riewoldt      Morton

Foll  Graham  Cousins    Tuck

Int  Nahas, Jackson, Collins, Polo

Emerg Taylor Edwards Griffiths

Farmer's going to be busy Tucker!!


Oops he sure will be. I'll lighten his load by leaving him in the back pocket and handing his interchange spot to Jacko. :thumbsup
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: the claw on January 30, 2010, 04:12:59 PM
Most supporters have little idea really. They are obviously uninformed and come Round 1 will be very surprized at some of the selections and positional changes.
nothing a little deduction and plain old common sense cant overcome and with a little information about players and what hardwick wants.

footskills  decision making  and height/size are  areas hardwick has come out and said he will target regardless. hes said vickery will play ruck and post will play back. hes also said ploak will play ff and is going well at training.so theres 3 positions covered. hes made comment about how big griffiths is and for sure if fit he will get some games so maybe fp for now to get that added height he wants forward.

we have guys who will be eased into games and the midfield  because of injury cotchin springs straight to mind so hes likely to play predominately hf with rotations. . kids getting a game is a priority.

we also targeted 4 mature players farmer webberley nason and roberts. common sense says both webberley and farmer will likely play if fit and doing well preseason. well at least one anyway.

common sense says a big bodied mid will play to help foleys inside work load, well theres only thomson and tuck so one of these blokes will play for sure. the better skilled is thomson  but has not done a lot to date career wise. we lack for experience and where possible he will spread the experience thru the team.



okay
 footskills. - can anyone truly see him playing edwards mcguane rance in the one backline for the life of me i cant. it would be ignoring the biggest single thing that has crucified us on field. for that matter i cant see king or polo getting a run down back either.

to me rance needs to develop his game at coburg he may play mcguane for his competetiveness.

to me the back half squad will be.

Thursfield, Moore, Post,  Webberley, Farmer, Newman, Tambling, Dea Mcguane. nearly all good kicks lots of run pace with adequate height with post back there.. still lacking size but hopefully we are finally doing something about that in the gym.
with tambling moore and newman theres almost as much experience as we own as well. thursfield is also now turning 24.

decision making/kicking -  sort of excludes a few as well again. i would have mcguane in here and rance.  others outside the backs who make poor decisions or are poor by foot. king, white, jackson,  tuck, graham, polo, edwards, mcmahon, hislop.
of these jackson probably will get the tagging jobs.

anyway to cut it all short  and apply the above i think rnd 1 will go as follows allowing all are fit.

B       Farmer      Thursfield    Moore.
HB     Newman      Post         Tambling/Webberley
C       Martin        Cousins      Collins.
HF     Morton       Riewoldt     Cotchin
F      Nahas         Polak         Griffiths.
R      Simmonds    Deledio       Foley
Int    Vickery       Jackson      Thomson  and the last spot from Taylor Edwards Webberley Tuck and maybe one or two others.

the team has good  structure, surprising height and SIZE. Good footskills through out. pace and even though light on for experience it is spread throughout. and with post collins martin cotchin griffiths vickery and perhaps taylor is has a fair sprinkling of kids thus catering to development.
anyway just my take on it.
                
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: Smokey on January 30, 2010, 05:42:04 PM

B       Farmer      Thursfield    Moore.
HB     Newman      Post         Tambling/Webberley
C       Martin        Cousins      Collins.
HF     Morton       Riewoldt     Cotchin
F      Nahas         Polak         Griffiths.
R      Simmonds    Deledio       Foley
Int    Vickery       Jackson      Thomson  and the last spot from Taylor Edwards Webberley Tuck and maybe one or two others.

the team has good  structure, surprising height and SIZE. Good footskills through out. pace and even though light on for experience it is spread throughout. and with post collins martin cotchin griffiths vickery and perhaps taylor is has a fair sprinkling of kids thus catering to development.
anyway just my take on it.
                

No way on earth that Thursfield will get a game in the backline before McGuane.  McGuane is actually a very good kick, he has an ill-founded reputation based on his action alone.  He is the same size and just as quick as Thursfield, stronger overhead, provides a stack more run, is far more competitive/aggressive, and can be thrown up forward in a pinch.  I reckon Thursfield is riding on the last chance caboose this year.  For a stopping defender his tackle count and marks per game figures are terrible.
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: torch on January 30, 2010, 07:09:12 PM
if i was coach and every player was available, this would be my team for Round 1.

Newman, Moore, Thursfield

Webberley, McGuane, Rance

Martin, Deledio, Tambling

Morton, Astbury, Riewoldt

Taylor, Griffiths, Nahas

Simmonds, Cotchin, Foley

Graham, Cousins, Post, Polo


Nothing like throwing the kids to the wolves hey Torch?   ;D

When you add in Cotchin, Graham, Rance, Nahas and Post, it would go down as one of the most inexperienced teams ever fielded in AFL history - average age of 22.4 years with 1286 games total in experience (average 58.45).


that is called "Blooding The Kids".

start them now!

 :)
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: torch on January 31, 2010, 01:06:29 AM
i think Post should be a Forward!

would like to see Griffiths play Round 1 if he is fit.

Martin, Griffiths and Webberley i believe are a good chance to play Round 1.

Webberley is my smokey to play Round 1
Title: Re: 2010 Best Lineup - Richmond Tigers (allfooty.com)
Post by: the claw on January 31, 2010, 03:10:46 PM

B       Farmer      Thursfield    Moore.
HB     Newman      Post         Tambling/Webberley
C       Martin        Cousins      Collins.
HF     Morton       Riewoldt     Cotchin
F      Nahas         Polak         Griffiths.
R      Simmonds    Deledio       Foley
Int    Vickery       Jackson      Thomson  and the last spot from Taylor Edwards Webberley Tuck and maybe one or two others.

the team has good  structure, surprising height and SIZE. Good footskills through out. pace and even though light on for experience it is spread throughout. and with post collins martin cotchin griffiths vickery and perhaps taylor is has a fair sprinkling of kids thus catering to development.
anyway just my take on it.
                

No way on earth that Thursfield will get a game in the backline before McGuane.  McGuane is actually a very good kick, he has an ill-founded reputation based on his action alone.  He is the same size and just as quick as Thursfield, stronger overhead, provides a stack more run, is far more competitive/aggressive, and can be thrown up forward in a pinch.  I reckon Thursfield is riding on the last chance caboose this year.  For a stopping defender his tackle count and marks per game figures are terrible.
we are going to have to agree to  disagree hes a poor kick and makes lousy decisions.he tries hard but is often beaten in one on ones.
thursfield has a chance to play FB, there is no way mcguane can play FB, When post plays back it will be CHB  making mcguane redundant. with his skills there is also no way you can play mcguane as a tall running defender hes just too deficient.
no i have to say i will be surprised if mcguane is not shipped of to the gc17 at yrs end one thing for sure we have to do better than mcguane if we want to become a decent side and if thursfield cant step up this yr we will need to upgrade on him as well.