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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on March 05, 2010, 10:15:43 PM

Title: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: mightytiges on March 05, 2010, 10:15:43 PM
Can someone explain to me why on the kick-ins you would continually kick long to the opposition ruckman when it continually didn't work and when we had free players on the opposite side of the ground? It happened under Plough and it happened again today.

Add also when we go short to the pocket from a kick-in we try these dinky 15m kicks  that land at the feet of teammates which puts us under a heap of pressure and we turn over the footy so easily from our own stupidity and lack of basic skills.

Both these problems explain why we got smashed in the 2nd and 4th quarters today. We get into this kick-in rut and trap ourselves in our own defensive 50 because we can't think our way out. It looked like we were kicking into the breeze those quarters and our defenders just don't have the footskills and confidence to break out of the backline with longer penetrating kicks to teammates on the spread. The midfield being stagnant didn't help our backline either.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: crackertiger on March 05, 2010, 10:29:31 PM
Simple fix. Ban McMahon!
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: the claw on March 05, 2010, 11:28:42 PM
still infested with far to many clueless players and poor kiks perhaps. na wash the mouth out it cant possibly be.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: Danog on March 05, 2010, 11:36:04 PM
It was all McMahon's fault.  I'm 100% serious.  Webberly took 1 kick-out (not sure why it was only 1) and drilled it down the throat of Post.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: Tigermonk on March 06, 2010, 12:09:15 AM
maybe just maybe Hardwick was hanging him  ;D
showing everyone in a practice match how mcmahon should never wear a senior jumper again :lol
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: crannyvegas on March 06, 2010, 12:19:52 AM
maybe just maybe Hardwick was hanging him  ;D
showing everyone in a practice match how mcmahon should never wear a senior jumper again :lol
Now thats what i call constructive use of a practice game! LOL
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 06, 2010, 12:22:43 AM
The kick ins had me confused today.
Dont know why we kick 15 metres to a player who hasn got support on that side of the ground, something aint right.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: Tigermonk on March 06, 2010, 12:33:58 AM
The kick ins had me confused today.
Dont know why we kick 15 metres to a player who hasn got support on that side of the ground, something aint right.

Kick in have had me confused for years  :lol
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 06, 2010, 12:49:06 AM
The kick ins had me confused today.
Dont know why we kick 15 metres to a player who hasn got support on that side of the ground, something aint right.

Kick in have had me confused for years  :lol

Today was bad.
They are practising making it even worser
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 06, 2010, 02:57:12 PM
Our kicking out of the backline is so bad I would almost play Deledio as a half back flank.

Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 07, 2010, 01:47:15 AM
McMahon kicking to one Richmond player opposed to four opponents is one reason. He took 12 of 13 in the last quarter.

Simple don't let McMahon take the kickouts.
Meatloaf sang a song about 2 out of 3 aint bad but 0 out of 12 is just garbage.
He shouldn't take kickouts at Coburg either.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: Mr Magic on March 07, 2010, 08:26:35 AM
Newman is our best kick in from defence. He can drill a pass as well as anyone in the AFL.
Problems start further up the field with who he's kicking to. That's what we need to get sorted.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: Ramps on March 07, 2010, 10:59:44 AM
our kicks have been bad for - Id reckon 3 years maybe longer, we seem completely hopeless at getting the ball out of d50. Newman should take the kick ins, whether its the short first pass or the long bomb into the centre or a huddle, at least Newman could orchestrate that properly.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: tiger101 on March 07, 2010, 01:59:50 PM
maybe just maybe Hardwick was hanging him  ;D
showing everyone in a practice match how mcmahon should never wear a senior jumper again :lol

We can only hope.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: Smokey on March 07, 2010, 02:22:31 PM
Newman is our best kick in from defence. He can drill a pass as well as anyone in the AFL.
Problems start further up the field with who he's kicking to. That's what we need to get sorted.

Agree totally.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: bojangles17 on March 07, 2010, 03:37:51 PM
maybe just maybe Hardwick was hanging him  ;D
showing everyone in a practice match how mcmahon should never wear a senior jumper again :lol

not as silly as it sounds TM, these praccy matches are just as important to black mark players as to highlight those than could be called on for depth...I reckon rance, Gus and white and put a black mark next to their respective chances in the short term whilst a few others have enhanced their prospects as in Connors and perhaps Big Browney :thumbsup
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: mightytiges on April 26, 2010, 12:41:19 AM
Sandilands must have thought it was Christmas last night. Virtually every kick-in going straight down his throat. Dimma, having them kicking long in the direction of the opposition ruckman especially one 211cm tall isn't a smart ploy  :P.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: Siberian on April 26, 2010, 12:51:43 AM
Simmons and Vickery are a long way from big marking targets
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 26, 2010, 06:40:53 AM
Our kick ins are a DISGRACE.
The appoinment of Justin Leppitsch will need to be looked at.
Why  did we kick long to Sandilands is under13,s stuff :banghead
The whole game plan is flawed, if there is a game plan.
We thought WALLACE was bad, Hardwick hasnt got much idea
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: eliminator on April 26, 2010, 01:34:44 PM
We need a tall who can take a contested grab. At the moment our team is very deficient in this area.Having looked at Coburg over the weekend there is no great hope down there either. Need to recruit a ruckman who can take a contested mark. Vickery is going to take a while to develop.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: WA Tiger on April 26, 2010, 01:43:10 PM
I don't think one kick out actually went down the centre, maybe a couple but most went down the flanks with the right hand side (looking out from the goals) being favoured by Deledio in particular.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: torch on April 26, 2010, 01:55:56 PM
Our kick ins are a DISGRACE.
The appoinment of Justin Leppitsch will need to be looked at.
Why  did we kick long to Sandilands is under13,s stuff :banghead
The whole game plan is flawed, if there is a game plan.
We thought WALLACE was bad, Hardwick hasnt got much idea

i am starting to question Hardwick.

i don't understand why Richmond "STOPPED" attacking when we were 26 points in front?

Fremantle hit 31 points, nine goals in a row.

i am very worries about our forward line structure and our match plan!

we need to kick goals, not defend by sending Riewoldt loose in defense.

our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence is horrible! we are struggling!

Simmonds is battling hard.

Vickery is trying! he is still a cub!

i just do not think Richmond are "Hungry" enough kicking goals!

our zoning is no good, we should just play "one-on-one" football!

our zoning was very easy to get through!

 >:(

Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 26, 2010, 03:05:42 PM
Our kick ins are a DISGRACE.
The appoinment of Justin Leppitsch will need to be looked at.
Why  did we kick long to Sandilands is under13,s stuff :banghead
The whole game plan is flawed, if there is a game plan.
We thought WALLACE was bad, Hardwick hasnt got much idea

i am starting to question Hardwick.

i don't understand why Richmond "STOPPED" attacking when we were 26 points in front?

Fremantle hit 31 points, nine goals in a row.

i am very worries about our forward line structure and our match plan!

we need to kick goals, not defend by sending Riewoldt loose in defense.

our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence is horrible! we are struggling!

Simmonds is battling hard.

Vickery is trying! he is still a cub!

i just do not think Richmond are "Hungry" enough kicking goals!

our zoning is no good, we should just play "one-on-one" football!

our zoning was very easy to get through!

 >:(



Thank you Torch  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: Smokey on April 26, 2010, 03:11:34 PM
What frustrated me the most was that we kicked in continually to Sandilands' side of the ground.  We should have had either Reiwoldt or Astbury coming down the opposite flank as the designated target, letting the our ruckmen become decoys and taking their opponent out of the contest.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: tiger till i die on April 26, 2010, 04:41:27 PM
What frustrated me the most was that we kicked in continually to Sandilands' side of the ground.  We should have had either Reiwoldt or Astbury coming down the opposite flank as the designated target, letting the our ruckmen become decoys and taking their opponent out of the contest.

Reiwoldt = crap

get rid of him and try and buy a good player
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: Owl on April 26, 2010, 09:12:13 PM
Our kick ins are a DISGRACE.
The appoinment of Justin Leppitsch will need to be looked at.
Why  did we kick long to Sandilands is under13,s stuff :banghead
The whole game plan is flawed, if there is a game plan.
We thought WALLACE was bad, Hardwick hasnt got much idea

i am starting to question Hardwick.

i don't understand why Richmond "STOPPED" attacking when we were 26 points in front?

Fremantle hit 31 points, nine goals in a row.

i am very worries about our forward line structure and our match plan!

we need to kick goals, not defend by sending Riewoldt loose in defense.

our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence is horrible! we are struggling!

Simmonds is battling hard.

Vickery is trying! he is still a cub!

i just do not think Richmond are "Hungry" enough kicking goals!

our zoning is no good, we should just play "one-on-one" football!

our zoning was very easy to get through!

 >:(


Coz they were buggered after the first quarter, and took a bit to get back into it in the second, by the 3rd Freo came back hard.  They have not had the endurance to play the game plan since the start of the year, any dumb bastard can see that, it will come.  The first quarter showed what they can do, they looked bloody good, smart positioning, good skills and when they muffed it they recovered well.  Call me positive poiter, but stuff it, when they get more match fitness, they will be able to sustain that pressure for longer, experience will help em know how to apply it and when to ease off.  Heaps to work on but its getting better each game, were rebuilding so, not phased at all, its moving up the curve from what I can see.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: Dr Rockso on April 26, 2010, 10:28:54 PM
hopefully Newman, Deledio and all of our defense/midfield/ruck spend their entire week learning how to kick out and how to present when the other team stacks their fwd line. surely fatigue can't be the reason. this crap started early in the 2nd quarter, and there's no way a professional sporting team is fatigued after 25 minutes on the field.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: WA Tiger on April 26, 2010, 10:34:49 PM
Well in their defence (the players kicking out) they must have been instructed to kick out to the flanks by the coaching staff. There is no way that after kicking out there so many times the coach would allow it without sending the runner out to tell them to kick it up the guts.
Title: Re: Our kick-ins and clearing the ball out of defence
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 03, 2010, 09:49:55 AM
What frustrated me the most was that we kicked in continually to Sandilands' side of the ground.  We should have had either Reiwoldt or Astbury coming down the opposite flank as the designated target, letting the our ruckmen become decoys and taking their opponent out of the contest.

Reiwoldt = crap

get rid of him and try and buy a good player

We clear the ball much better when Deledio strolls out of defence and puts is 60+ meters up the ground over the pack with our fast midgets running onto it