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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: taztiger4 on April 11, 2010, 09:52:57 PM
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apparently , more to come
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great ..we get flogged and then this...whatever it is
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apparently , more to come
What did some of the boys play up??
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You dont want to know who :banghead
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You dont want to know who :banghead
You have got to be kidding me, after the poo they have dished up for 3 weeks they have no right to stuff up off the field as well.
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could possibly spell the end for someone, I hope not
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You dont want to know who :banghead
Not Dustin, wouldn't think any of the others would have the balls to do anything. maybe Connors ?
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could possibly spell the end for someone, I hope not
Great.. :banghead Please not Cuz... :pray
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Tigers in Sydney hotel trouble
* From: Herald Sun
* April 11, 2010 9:57PM
RICHMOND is investigating reports of player misbehaviour at the team hotel in Sydney after the Tigers' loss to the Swans on Saturday.
A club statement last night confirmed the investigation and promised more details this afternoon.
Several players, including Ben Cousins, are under investigation after reports of drinking and unacceptable noise levels at the Inter-Continental Hotel until 3am.
The club statement said: "Richmond Football Club can confirm it is investigating allegations regarding player behaviour ...
"The club is in the process of conducting a thorough investigation and, once the facts are established, a further update will be provided."
Officials are understood to be disappointed and angry that players would misbehave after a third loss. Fines look certain, but, with the Tigers to play Melbourne next Sunday, suspensions are unlikely.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/tigers-in-sydney-hotel-trouble/story-e6frf7jo-1225852476710
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What a bunch of bloody stupid stupid fools. Never mind the club being angry what about us poor suckers that have to put up with the crap on field and then we have to put up with this.
Has our culture actually improved....... NO!!!
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Celebrating another flogging :cheers well done :thumbsup
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What a bunch of bloody stupid stupid fools. Never mind the club being angry what about us poor suckers that have to put up with the crap on field and then we have to put up with this.
Has our culture actually improved....... NO!!!
Depends what happened, we all know the media are gunna pounce on anything involving Cuz and blow it out of all proportion.
Seriously let the boys blow off some steam, whats with a few drinks and a bit of fun, good team building I would think within reason of course.
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What a bunch of bloody stupid stupid fools. Never mind the club being angry what about us poor suckers that have to put up with the crap on field and then we have to put up with this.
Has our culture actually improved....... NO!!!
Depends what happened, we all know the media are gunna pounce on anything involving Cuz and blow it out of all proportion.
Seriously let the boys blow off some steam, whats with a few drinks and a bit of fun, good team building I would think within reason of course.
Until 3 in the morning, blow off steam on the track, not in a Hotel room after a 50+ point flogging. If they have the energy to blow off steam after round 3 then their not putting it in hard enough on field. I know the media suck but if the club has admitted it something has obviously happened.
Bloody fools!!!
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This is not the kinda of new you want to hear or read about after 3 straight floggings.
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If what's reported in the Herald-Sun is all there is then storm in a teacup stuff.
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If what's reported in the Herald-Sun is all there is then storm in a teacup stuff.
I beleive you might be wrong in this instance :banghead
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We talking Nate Miles proportions ;D
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If what's reported in the Herald-Sun is all there is then storm in a teacup stuff.
It still happened though and it's not good enough. I watched them interviewing McDonald today after the Dees won and the reporter said so will you be celebrating with a few beers? McDonald said, no I am off the drink for the season.. Not our boys though, never mind trying to be a bit professional, I mean really, Roberts has already been suspended and now this. Whats going on down there??
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If what's reported in the Herald-Sun is all there is then storm in a teacup stuff.
I beleive you might be wrong in this instance :banghead
I did say based on what the Herald-Sun says so far. After a night game the players mostly 18-22 y.o. were up to 3am and got a bit noisy. Call the principal :whistle.
It'd be more serious if....
There was any property damage?
Staff or other hotel guests were abused verbally or physically?
Did they get smashed as opposed to just having a couple of beers?
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If what's reported in the Herald-Sun is all there is then storm in a teacup stuff.
It still happened though and it's not good enough. I watched them interviewing McDonald today after the Dees won and the reporter said so will you be celebrating with a few beers? McDonald said, no I am off the drink for the season.. Not our boys though, never mind trying to be a bit professional, I mean really, Roberts has already been suspended and now this. Whats going on down there??
My sentiments exactly!! Not happy with being a laughing stock on the field, wanna assume the off field one aswell?? this calls for the official tiger supporter icon :banghead
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:cheers too much of this going on...some ended up like this :rollin
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If what's reported in the Herald-Sun is all there is then storm in a teacup stuff.
It still happened though and it's not good enough. I watched them interviewing McDonald today after the Dees won and the reporter said so will you be celebrating with a few beers? McDonald said, no I am off the drink for the season.. Not our boys though, never mind trying to be a bit professional, I mean really, Roberts has already been suspended and now this. Whats going on down there??
I wouldn't be celebrating either if I was Melbourne. Just one goal to half-time and they only won because they had 4 extra players.
Look I don't believe players can now drink in season for recovery reasons but a number still do at many clubs. I'm just saying I'll wait until I hear exactly what happened before demanding a hanging offence. On what's been written so far in Herald-Sun the first thing I said to myself reading it was "Is that all!". The way everyone was carrying on I thought we had trashed the joint like some egocentric self-obsessed rockband throwing the tv out of the window and demanding Maccas delivered to their hotel room at 3am.
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no-one cares ;D
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Well ::)
This isnt the first time this season.
Would think that the coach isnt as hard as people suggest either.
Most clubs have curfews when interstate due to recovery sessions and early flights etc.
And most clubs ban drinking as well, not the case at Punt Road.
Will say this, it seems that players think that playing AFL is a privledge, This group of players will need to pull there finger out quick, as we seem to be sliding into a big black hole, this isnt good
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no-one cares ;D
Your 100% correct, they dont care :banghead
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If what's reported in the Herald-Sun is all there is then storm in a teacup stuff.
It still happened though and it's not good enough. I watched them interviewing McDonald today after the Dees won and the reporter said so will you be celebrating with a few beers? McDonald said, no I am off the drink for the season.. Not our boys though, never mind trying to be a bit professional, I mean really, Roberts has already been suspended and now this. Whats going on down there??
I wouldn't be celebrating either if I was Melbourne. Just one goal to half-time and they only won because they had 4 extra players.
Look I don't believe players can now drink in season for recovery reasons but a number still do at many clubs. I'm just saying I'll wait until I hear exactly what happened before demanding a hanging offence. On what's been written so far in Herald-Sun the first thing I said to myself reading it was "Is that all!". The way everyone was carrying on I thought we had trashed the joint like some egocentric self-obsessed rockband throwing the tv out of the window and demanding Maccas delivered to their hotel room at 3am.
Melbourne won we didn't, regardless of how they won, they also pushed the Pies and really should have won that game. They are playing better than us and they are not having any trouble off field. Regardless of what our players were doing, I don't care if they were singing Christmas Carols at 3 in the morning, they should not be doing anything at 3 in the morning other than sleeping. No excuses!!
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and stuff putting them up at the Intercontinental, next interstate game they can stay at a Formula 1 or a Caravan Park :lol
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Well ::)
This isnt the first time this season.
Would think that the coach isnt as hard as people suggest either.
Most clubs have curfews when interstate due to recovery sessions and early flights etc.
And most clubs ban drinking as well, not the case at Punt Road.
Will say this, it seems that players think that playing AFL is a privledge, This group of players will need to pull there finger out quick, as we seem to be sliding into a big black hole, this isnt good
Totally agree!!
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If what's reported in the Herald-Sun is all there is then storm in a teacup stuff.
I beleive you might be wrong in this instance :banghead
I did say based on what the Herald-Sun says so far. After a night game the players mostly 18-22 y.o. were up to 3am and got a bit noisy. Call the principal :whistle.
It'd be more serious if....
There was any property damage?
Staff or other hotel guests were abused verbally or physically?
Did they get smashed as opposed to just having a couple of beers?
:thumbsup
Shock horror, they were drinking at the hotel bar they were staying at and may have got a bit loud in the bar.
The fact they were still going 'til 3am is clearly potential curfew issue that would need to be dealt with but apart from that what is the issue??
Let's remember that these guys finished the game at 10:15ish I would guess. Would have then had a coaches chat, a warm down etc and then transport to the hotel. By that time it's far later and they have stopped into the bar in the hotel they are staying for a couple of drinks and by then the time could easily be 3am. The only reason this will get any currency in the media is because they have the opportunity to mention Ben Cousins.
I'm with MT, unless there is some kind of extra aspect to this the HUN is holding back this is a storm in a teacup that can comfortably be dealt with internally and certainly without suspension. It's not great to hear but geez, surely there are bigger things going on in the world.
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and stuff putting them up at the Intercontinental, next interstate game they can stay at a Formula 1 or a Caravan Park :lol
they still get into strife. they dont wanna do the hard work & it stands out. seen so many walkers last night. one mate said l cant beleive what we are seeing here.
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Seen Matty White walking while Nason sprinted passed him, :banghead
They are professional footballers, who would of had a 8.00am recovery session, lack of sleep aint good, especially when you can win a game :banghead
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bloody hell, how precious is everyone getting
im sure they were not the only ppl on the w/ having a drink and getting noisy
cant mates get togetehr and just have some fun
ffs, if there was no damage and they behaed who cares, oh poor ppl they were noisy
i bet if it were the sydney boys nothing would be said
let the bou=ys enjoy each others compnay and have fun ffs
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If what's reported in the Herald-Sun is all there is then storm in a teacup stuff.
It still happened though and it's not good enough. I watched them interviewing McDonald today after the Dees won and the reporter said so will you be celebrating with a few beers? McDonald said, no I am off the drink for the season.. Not our boys though, never mind trying to be a bit professional, I mean really, Roberts has already been suspended and now this. Whats going on down there??
I wouldn't be celebrating either if I was Melbourne. Just one goal to half-time and they only won because they had 4 extra players.
Look I don't believe players can now drink in season for recovery reasons but a number still do at many clubs. I'm just saying I'll wait until I hear exactly what happened before demanding a hanging offence. On what's been written so far in Herald-Sun the first thing I said to myself reading it was "Is that all!". The way everyone was carrying on I thought we had trashed the joint like some egocentric self-obsessed rockband throwing the tv out of the window and demanding Maccas delivered to their hotel room at 3am.
Melbourne won we didn't, regardless of how they won, they also pushed the Pies and really should have won that game. They are playing better than us and they are not having any trouble off field. Regardless of what our players were doing, I don't care if they were singing Christmas Carols at 3 in the morning, they should not be doing anything at 3 in the morning other than sleeping. No excuses!!
As TA said the game finished at 10.15pm. By the time they warmed down, had the coaches chat and did all their Sydney supporter group coterie obligations they wouldn't have got back to the hotel until after midnight sometime. So they stayed up a couple of hours more with an 8 day break until the next game. Win or lose some footballers still have the adrenalin pumping through their veins hours after a game so they are too awake to sleep. First interstate trip for a few guys as well I'm guessing.
Unless there's more to what has been published in the papers it really is a storm in the teacup. I guess the media get what they want if it riles up Richmond supporters. Read BF and we have supporters demanding month long bans for just being noisy and having facebook pages ???.
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If what's reported in the Herald-Sun is all there is then storm in a teacup stuff.
I beleive you might be wrong in this instance :banghead
I did say based on what the Herald-Sun says so far. After a night game the players mostly 18-22 y.o. were up to 3am and got a bit noisy. Call the principal :whistle.
It'd be more serious if....
There was any property damage?
Staff or other hotel guests were abused verbally or physically?
Did they get smashed as opposed to just having a couple of beers?
:thumbsup
Shock horror, they were drinking at the hotel bar they were staying at and may have got a bit loud in the bar.
The fact they were still going 'til 3am is clearly potential curfew issue that would need to be dealt with but apart from that what is the issue??
Let's remember that these guys finished the game at 10:15ish I would guess. Would have then had a coaches chat, a warm down etc and then transport to the hotel. By that time it's far later and they have stopped into the bar in the hotel they are staying for a couple of drinks and by then the time could easily be 3am. The only reason this will get any currency in the media is because they have the opportunity to mention Ben Cousins.
I'm with MT, unless there is some kind of extra aspect to this the HUN is holding back this is a storm in a teacup that can comfortably be dealt with internally and certainly without suspension. It's not great to hear but geez, surely there are bigger things going on in the world.
:thumbsup
I'm sure Caro will have her "inside" story and Hutchy is going through the hotel's skip as we speak ::)
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More problems for Cousins and Richmond
MICHAEL COWLEY
April 12, 2010
BEN COUSINS is understood to be among a group of Richmond footballers at the centre of an investigation into alleged unruly behaviour at a Sydney hotel yesterday.
Following a 55-point defeat to the Swans at the Sydney Cricket Ground - their third loss of the season - members of the last-placed Richmond team were supposedly involved in an alcohol-fuelled session at the Intercontinental Hotel about 3am on Sunday.
So raucous was their behaviour that they are believed to have woken up athletes due to compete in the World Triathlon Championship series later that morning.
Richmond officials confirmed last night the matter would be investigated. That the incident is believed to have involved Cousins will be particularly disturbing to the Tigers, given the tremendous measures they have taken to help the troubled footballer in his return from drug rehabilitation.
''The club is in the process of conducting a thorough investigation and once all the facts are established a further update will be provided,'' the Tigers said in a statement released late last night. ''The club expects to be in a position to provide the media with more detailed information by tomorrow afternoon.''
Reports of the Tigers' unruly behaviour come less than a week after high profile manager Rick Olarenshaw told a Melbourne radio station that Cousins was preparing to ''step away from the game.'' Cousins was hospitalised with stomach complaints during the off-season, however Richmond have consistently denied the incident was related to a relapse.
''I'm not one for gossip and rumours but I've been hearing murmurings for probably the last month about Ben Cousins,'' Olarenshaw said. ''And I got some things confirmed to me over the weekend, and it was talked about publicly on the airwaves yesterday, so I'm not the first one to talk about it, but I believe that Ben Cousins may have lost his way again.''.
''We know that he was in hospital … and there have been a lot of sightings of him out and about with his behaviour a little bit erratic.
''He's been out with his shirt off and this sort of thing and it's sad. It's the last thing you want to hear, because we do want to see him do well, but I think in the very near future there will be an announcement made about what he is doing playing wise. And I think he will step away from the game. That's what I'm hearing.''
A police spokesperson last night said no report of malicious damage had been filed in the vicinity of the Intercontinental Hotel around the time of the alleged incident. A hotel spokesperson said: ''I have no further information on that.''
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/more-problems-for-cousins-and-richmond-20100412-s11u.html
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Richmond investigates behaviour of Ben Cousins and teammates in Sydney hotel
* Malcolm Conn
* From: The Australian
* April 12, 2010
THE playing future of Ben Cousins at Richmond is under a cloud after confirmation that he was among a group of players on a drunken escapade at the team hotel in Sydney during the early hours of yesterday morning.
Richmond has begun investigating Cousins and a number of other players over their behaviour only hours after the Tigers' 55-point loss to the Swans at the SCG.
Richmond has informed the AFL of its investigation. Under the league's code of conduct, clubs are required to keep the AFL informed but handle discipline internally.
Witnesses have told The Australian that Cousins was part of a group "yahooing" in the Intercontinental Hotel at 3am, waking competitors from around the world who were due to take part in the opening round of the World Triathlon Championship series.
It was held in Sydney yesterday, with the men's event beginning at 7am.
Richmond will seek footage from hotel security cameras and interview hotel staff, although the hotel last night claimed no official complaints had been made.
"The club is investigating a possible incident during the early hours of Sunday morning," a Richmond spokesperson told The Australian last night.
One hotel guest who did not want to be named claimed he attempted to tell the unruly mob to shut up.
"It says a fair bit about where Richmond is at the moment," the guest said.
The Tigers have lost their opening three matches by a total of 183 points and sit firmly on the bottom of the ladder.
There have been claims that Richmond has been covering up bouts of excessive drinking by the recovering drug addict this year. Cousins was hospitalised twice in a week shortly before the start of the season with what the club claimed was a gastric problem.
At the club's official dinner before the opening round against Carlton, president Gary March denied reports Cousins has a problem with binge drinking.
March slammed the claims as "unsubstantiated rumour and innuendo" although he conceded that Cousins was "no angel" and came to the club "with baggage".
Last week, high-profile AFL player manager Ricky Olarenshaw, a former Essendon premiership player, told Melbourne radio that he heard Cousins "will step away from the game".
"We know that he was in hospital about two weeks ago and there have been a lot of sightings of him out and about with his behaviour a little bit erratic," said Olarenshaw, who also has Richmond midfielder Daniel Jackson as part of his stable.
"He's been out with his shirt off and this sort of thing and it's sad."
Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale denied the claims.
"It is a well-known fact that as a part of his condition of employment, Ben is drug-tested by the AFL up to three times a week," Gale said last week.
"We get these rumours and speculation on a daily basis relating to Ben."
Cousins played the first round against Carlton, was ruled out for the second round against the Bulldogs with what the club claimed was a knee injury and returned to the side for Saturday night's game.
Cousins, 31, was thrown a lifeline by the Tigers two years ago after the Brownlow Medallist and premiership player was eventually forced out of West Coast in disgrace because of his long-running drug addition.
He is only a shadow of the player who was regularly named as an all-Australia during his time at West Coast and his career is heading in the same direction as Richmond, which threatens to become the first team to have a winless season since Fitzroy in 1964.
The Tigers meet reigning wooden-spooner Melbourne at the MCG next Sunday in what was shaping as the battle for the paddle. However the Demons claimed their first victory of the year yesterday, beating Adelaide at the MCG by 16 points a week after losing to Collingwood by a point in round two.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/richmond-investigates-behaviour-of-ben-cousins-and-teammates-in-sydney-hotel/story-e6frg7mf-1225852471135
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This is just what we need ??? Thats how we will get better :thumbsup Hit the pee until 3am :cheers
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this is a nothing moment, its all a load of poo
if that was teh sydney team making noise nothing would be made of it, its just bec ben is a tiger ffs
we r getting a bit precious
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I hope your right X but they are supposed to be professional footballers aiming to get better at what they do. Why do they have to be drinking until 3am regardless of what time they finish. Its not local country footy. How about some pasta and plenty of water, a good recovery session the next day at your best, not hung over.
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I don't know, I reckon it's good. A bit of a bonding session. :cheers
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bloody marvelous news, love to know who was involved in that ???
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Im more concerned with the fact Hardwick seems not as hard as what was originally thought.
if he really wanted to turn things around he would start with zero tolerance on late night sessions.
This is the what 3rd alcohol related issue with our club this summer and we have been smashed 3 times to boot.
Not good enough a disgrace actually.
I think we should get rid of Cousins now. He hasn't really improved our situation on or off the field since he arrived, so not to sure what he is good for.
Id rather see a new kid take his place to be honest. They are our future now not him.
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Im more concerned with the fact Hardwick seems not as hard as what was originally thought.
if he really wanted to turn things around he would start with zero tolerance on late night sessions.
This is the what 3rd alcohol related issue with our club this summer and we have been smashed 3 times to boot.
Not good enough a disgrace actually.
I think we should get rid of Cousins now. He hasn't really improved our situation on or off the field since he arrived, so not to sure what he is good for.
Id rather see a new kid take his place to be honest. They are our future now not him.
Would totally agree.
Its seems they dont get the message or Hardwick isnt as hard as people think.
Really being on the drink and doing the rehab 5 hours later, aint good.
Supporters have bled for this club foir years, these guys just think its a privledge
Asfor the Cus,I love the Cous but I think it maybe a good idea to part company
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some ppl get so hysterical,
1/ there is no news that they were drinking , just loud so what
2/ even if they were drinking so what, maybe its just what the boys need a bit of fun tim etogether and enjoying each others company
nothing was broken, they didnt misbehave , they were just loud ffs
now this has nothing to do with bein profesional, even pros are allowed a drink or 2 every now and then
some ppl get sucked into th ebs
i hope hardwick comes out and says
we we were loud, we had a drink , i was with them, it was my idea
now everyone f off
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LOL - I hope they never put a few of you guys on a jury!
Guess it called fishing, throw it out there and see who bites.
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If what's reported in the Herald-Sun is all there is then storm in a teacup stuff.
OH MY GOD
They stayed awake in their rooms until 3am -BAD LITTLE BOYS !!!!!
How dare they stay up that latE and indulge in private banter.
The media are clearly on a witch hunt....and Ben is the wicked one from the west.....FFS !!!
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Im more concerned with the fact Hardwick seems not as hard as what was originally thought.
if he really wanted to turn things around he would start with zero tolerance on late night sessions.
This is the what 3rd alcohol related issue with our club this summer and we have been smashed 3 times to boot.
Not good enough a disgrace actually.
I think we should get rid of Cousins now. He hasn't really improved our situation on or off the field since he arrived, so not to sure what he is good for.
Id rather see a new kid take his place to be honest. They are our future now not him.
Would totally agree.
Its seems they dont get the message or Hardwick isnt as hard as people think.
Really being on the drink and doing the rehab 5 hours later, aint good.
Supporters have bled for this club foir years, these guys just think its a privledge
Asfor the Cus,I love the Cous but I think it maybe a good idea to part company
who are they jack,u old mole.
Fair dInkum,ur posts are getting predictable - just like the last 3 years.
U dont even know what or who,other than cosuins but u have already stuck the boots in.
You judge from such a high moral view yet the comments seem laced with personal bitterness.
STFU man,because rite now,u look as hell bent on discrediting the club as the media,solely on the grounds "u worked at the club"
Not a good look.
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The fact there was no official complaint and the source is one unidentified person, it could be completely made up.
My initial reaction was to suspend any player involved, however I'm not so sure now.
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After 3 disgusting performances like that they don't have the right to even go back and have one beer, they should have gone and watched a replay of the crap we have to endure every week before celebrating a loss like that. Regardless of what happened, it has made headlines and the sort of headlines we DON'T need. Ask yourself this, did they deserve to go back to the Hotel and carry on at 3am in the morning they woke up professional athletes doing the right thing...... take a leaf out of their book Richmond FFS.
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call me a little crazy but I would have thought after a third week of humiliating losses, DH would have had the team up at 500am for a morning dip at Bondi followed by an 1 hour or so charging up sand dunes with tractor tyres chained to thier hips...That's the kinda headline I wanna read not some booze up after an arse kicking... that makes me sick to the core :'(
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call me a little crazy but I would have thought after a third week of humiliating losses, DH would have had the team up at 500am for a morning dip at Bondi followed by an 1 hour or so charging up sand dunes with tractor tyres chained to thier hips...That's the kinda headline I wanna read not some booze up after an behind kicking... that makes me sick to the core :'(
Hey, that's what you get when you have a team of losers from the '90s taking over management of the club
If it's true that a few are going off the rails, and this is hardly going off the rails IMO, what's happening with the management of the club?
We didn't have these headlines last year
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I totally agree, for starters make them go back and watch a replay of the game till 3 am. They dont deserve a beer after three floggings. If its that important for them to have a beer that much, why not tell they can have one when they win a game. Till then Hardwick can flog em on the track and they can work towards that prized and deserved after game celebratery beer.!
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call me a little crazy but I would have thought after a third week of humiliating losses, DH would have had the team up at 500am for a morning dip at Bondi followed by an 1 hour or so charging up sand dunes with tractor tyres chained to thier hips...That's the kinda headline I wanna read not some booze up after an behind kicking... that makes me sick to the core :'(
Hey, that's what you get when you have a team of losers from the '90s taking over management of the club
If it's true that a few are going off the rails, and this is hardly going off the rails IMO, what's happening with the management of the club?
We didn't have these headlines last year
hmm, not sure where DH and his team fit that mould, nice try but you'll need to get up earlier to get the worm forarsy ::)
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I was talking about off field - Tony Free and co
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call me a little crazy but I would have thought after a third week of humiliating losses, DH would have had the team up at 500am for a morning dip at Bondi followed by an 1 hour or so charging up sand dunes with tractor tyres chained to thier hips...That's the kinda headline I wanna read not some booze up after an behind kicking... that makes me sick to the core :'(
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Our football club is just the easiest way to get in the paper for any journo.
Look its bad press but storm in a tea cup stuff unless something else comes out.
Breaking curfew slap on the wrist.
They've had a rough start to the season.
They made the decision to enjoy each others company instead of sulk by themselves
They made the decision to do it privately and not in public
At the end of the day unfortunatly they've represented us poorly but if thats as bad as it gets then I'll cop it.
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Funny story:
This year I was involved in an Under 18 20/20 Gaterade National Championship that was held at Sydney. Cut the story short. The Tasmanian team lost the first 2 games and went on the turps on the 1st night. As a result, 3 players were caught on hotel cameras nude in the elevators with nothing but cricket pads, gloves and helmets on.
As much as its unacceptable behaviour you have to realise that it's a bunch of guys around each other for the first time and want to have a bit of fun. They didn't hurt anyone. Same as our Richmond guys.
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After 3 disgusting performances like that they don't have the right to even go back and have one beer, they should have gone and watched a replay of the crap we have to endure every week before celebrating a loss like that. Regardless of what happened, it has made headlines and the sort of headlines we DON'T need. Ask yourself this, did they deserve to go back to the Hotel and carry on at 3am in the morning they woke up professional athletes doing the right thing...... take a leaf out of their book Richmond FFS.
Poor attitude.
It was kept private, is there a curfew to going to sleep of being back at the hotel? If its only not being out in public then no1 has broken a curfew. No1 has broken anylaws. Even ethical laws.
Some guys made the decision to enjoy each others company all be it a little later than normal and a bit louder.
If it were Freo no1 woudl be talking about it. If Cousins wasn't involved no1 woudl be talking about it.
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After 3 disgusting performances like that they don't have the right to even go back and have one beer, they should have gone and watched a replay of the crap we have to endure every week before celebrating a loss like that. Regardless of what happened, it has made headlines and the sort of headlines we DON'T need. Ask yourself this, did they deserve to go back to the Hotel and carry on at 3am in the morning they woke up professional athletes doing the right thing...... take a leaf out of their book Richmond FFS.
settle down
they do have the right to do that , the review process starts later not straight away, let the boys enjoy eacj others company
no one has made an official complainyt cos they did nothing wrong , just made some noise big effing deal
ffs. some of u supporters
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call me a little crazy but I would have thought after a third week of humiliating losses, DH would have had the team up at 500am for a morning dip at Bondi followed by an 1 hour or so charging up sand dunes with tractor tyres chained to thier hips...That's the kinda headline I wanna read not some booze up after an behind kicking... that makes me sick to the core :'(
thats does not work ffs
positive reinforcement works, and hardwick is doing the right thing
those old school bs things work for one week not long term.
if the players were not having a go fair enough , but they are having a fair dinkum crack, they cant be punished for for losing, but praised for their efforts and for what they do right and educated on what they do wrong
ffs, we finally have someone going through a proper process
as dimma says its not about the scoreboard but the process, if u fans dont like it and want a quick fix f off
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After 3 disgusting performances like that they don't have the right to even go back and have one beer, they should have gone and watched a replay of the crap we have to endure every week before celebrating a loss like that. Regardless of what happened, it has made headlines and the sort of headlines we DON'T need. Ask yourself this, did they deserve to go back to the Hotel and carry on at 3am in the morning they woke up professional athletes doing the right thing...... take a leaf out of their book Richmond FFS.
Poor attitude.
It was kept private, is there a curfew to going to sleep of being back at the hotel? If its only not being out in public then no1 has broken a curfew. No1 has broken anylaws. Even ethical laws.
Some guys made the decision to enjoy each others company all be it a little later than normal and a bit louder.
If it were Freo no1 woudl be talking about it. If Cousins wasn't involved no1 woudl be talking about it.
It's not Freo it us and if you are condoning this sort of behaviour after the crap we have watched then God help us, BTW quote a few of the other posters that are saying the same as me!!
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After 3 disgusting performances like that they don't have the right to even go back and have one beer, they should have gone and watched a replay of the crap we have to endure every week before celebrating a loss like that. Regardless of what happened, it has made headlines and the sort of headlines we DON'T need. Ask yourself this, did they deserve to go back to the Hotel and carry on at 3am in the morning they woke up professional athletes doing the right thing...... take a leaf out of their book Richmond FFS.
Poor attitude.
It was kept private, is there a curfew to going to sleep of being back at the hotel? If its only not being out in public then no1 has broken a curfew. No1 has broken anylaws. Even ethical laws.
Some guys made the decision to enjoy each others company all be it a little later than normal and a bit louder.
If it were Freo no1 woudl be talking about it. If Cousins wasn't involved no1 woudl be talking about it.
It's not Freo it us and if you are condoning this sort of behaviour after the crap we have watched then God help us, BTW quote a few of the other posters that are saying the same as me!!
what behaviour, some noise at 3am ffs , if there was bad behaviour there would have been an official complaint
u r all a bunch of sheep, if all other posters ate turd, would u???
Geez Geez, they did nothing wrong so why crucify them, they are entitled to hang together in a motel room ffs
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Its not an attack on you WAT. You were just the latest post that voiced the negative opinion.
The guys did nothing illegal and by the sounds of things didn't breach the curfew of being out of the public by certain time. They were in private quarters.
Last time I checked it wasn't against the football code to enjoy a night out or in this case IN after losing a few games.
Bunch of new guys learning the ropes, its important not to destroy them mentally after some heavy losses.
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After 3 disgusting performances like that they don't have the right to even go back and have one beer, they should have gone and watched a replay of the crap we have to endure every week before celebrating a loss like that. Regardless of what happened, it has made headlines and the sort of headlines we DON'T need. Ask yourself this, did they deserve to go back to the Hotel and carry on at 3am in the morning they woke up professional athletes doing the right thing...... take a leaf out of their book Richmond FFS.
settle down
they do have the right to do that , the review process starts later not straight away, let the boys enjoy eacj others company
no one has made an official complainyt cos they did nothing wrong , just made some noise big effing deal
ffs. some of u supporters
Pretty good with the name calling aren't you X. Honestly if you really think they have done the right thing at 3am in the morning you may wan't to look in the miror
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Its not an attack on you WAT. You were just the latest post that voiced the negative opinion.
The guys did nothing illegal and by the sounds of things didn't breach the curfew of being out of the public by certain time. They were in private quarters.
Last time I checked it wasn't against the football code to enjoy a night out or in this case IN after losing a few games.
Bunch of new guys learning the ropes, its important not to destroy them mentally after some heavy losses.
Look PL I can see what you are saying but really with the loses we have had I am sure there are better ways to cope with the loss other than being on the pee at 3am, regardless of noise or what they did IMHO they should have been in bed.
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After 3 disgusting performances like that they don't have the right to even go back and have one beer, they should have gone and watched a replay of the crap we have to endure every week before celebrating a loss like that. Regardless of what happened, it has made headlines and the sort of headlines we DON'T need. Ask yourself this, did they deserve to go back to the Hotel and carry on at 3am in the morning they woke up professional athletes doing the right thing...... take a leaf out of their book Richmond FFS.
settle down
they do have the right to do that , the review process starts later not straight away, let the boys enjoy eacj others company
no one has made an official complainyt cos they did nothing wrong , just made some noise big effing deal
ffs. some of u supporters
Pretty good with the name calling aren't you X. Honestly if you really think they have done the right thing at 3am in the morning you may wan't to look in the miror
they did nothing wrong
and yes im good at name calling , but have room for improvement to reach the levels of ox lol
no x stands anything, could mean a kiss, and u can x my hairy behind
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If i was a player reading this i would simply detest the sense of drama most of u have in regards to "How u would run the club"
U effin poomen - lol.
LMAO@ Expecting RFC Players to be in bed with a dummy in their mouths by a certain time because they have lost 3 in a row.
Get a life.
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If i was a player reading this i would simply detest the sense of drama most of u have in regards to "How u would run the club"
U effin poomen - lol.
LMAO@ Expecting RFC Players to be in bed with a dummy in their mouths by a certain time because they have lost 3 in a row.
Get a life.
its not often we think alike ox
but im with u all the way on this
3am in bed in sydney lol, the city that never sleeps
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Enough with the insults >:(
SEN said the Club is expected to make an annoucement this afternoon. Cuz and a small number of players are yet to emerge from inside the club. Jacko said to the media it will all be dealt with.
Patrick Smith this morning apparently said Cousins' involvement is just heresay at this stage btw.
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SEN just had one of the commentators following the athletics comp. in Sydney and he saw it as no big deal. There were no official complaints made and athletes don't sleep well the night before a race anyway.
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Its not an attack on you WAT. You were just the latest post that voiced the negative opinion.
The guys did nothing illegal and by the sounds of things didn't breach the curfew of being out of the public by certain time. They were in private quarters.
Last time I checked it wasn't against the football code to enjoy a night out or in this case IN after losing a few games.
Bunch of new guys learning the ropes, its important not to destroy them mentally after some heavy losses.
Look PL I can see what you are saying but really with the loses we have had I am sure there are better ways to cope with the loss other than being on the pee at 3am, regardless of noise or what they did IMHO they should have been in bed.
your right 100% agree they should have been in bed.
Slap on the wrist I reality check to all of them that simply they are in the public eye and being notcied at 3am for any reason after a win let alone a loss is embarrassing.
Not news worthy or reprimand worthy (But with the precedence et with Roberst who knows) no need to make it a huge deal. The media will always make the most of a Richmond issue cause we respond with passion every time.
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Video of Craig Cameron, Cuz and the rest of the players arriving at Punt Rd this morning running the media gauntlet....
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ben-cousins-other-richmond-players-in-tiger-booze-probe/story-e6frf9jf-1225852544160
You've got love some of these media headlines.....
"Ben Cousins linked to wild Sydney party" (http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=news&oi=news_result&ct=res&cd=5&ved=0CDwQqQIwBA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwwos.ninemsn.com.au%2Farticle.aspx%3Fid%3D1038441&rct=j&q=richmond%20tigers&ei=X4XCS9eODoqg6gPt_cmsCQ&usg=AFQjCNFXAxsdqVYivYT4PklSUOg6QiVwMA)
Even Robbo on SEN thinks we've become precious over these things. It sounded more like it was a "school camp".
Club apparently holding a press conference later on today.
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Until we actually hear from Richmond what went on and who was involved this is all speculation. It could have been that they were running over some of the nights events with each other looking for places to improve, or maybe they were just drowning their sorrows and got a bit loud - maybe Hardwick wanted them good and hungover for a really punishing session the following day, who knows?
Until we know I don't see any point in speculating, but I can say that in a number of jobs I've had I've often enjoyed a few beers (sometimes too many :lol) with some workmates after a particularly bad day and sometimes it's just the tonic to get your head right before going back to work.
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l would take them all out on the booze & let them all go.
Nothing wrong with a session where some will air thier feelings on each other
Good bonding. Maybe they will make a pact to work harder & think smarter out on the playing field.
l dont care what it takes for them to become a playing group as long as we see improvement from everyone of them.
If they are playing 50% better football at round 20 then thats a start for rebuilding & then they can sort the rest out
Coaches have to get to know the players & thier ability under the pump. Its not done over night but a week kicking drills should see something
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The media are expecting an announcement at 3pm. The Club at 2pm said they were meeting for an hour to discuss its response.
The Club is playing cat and mouse with the media scrum outside. Officials used a 3-car trick to sneak Cuz out of Punt Rd Oval and then they did high-5s when it worked :lol.
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i hope they make the media look like fools and say that there is nothing to discuss as the boys just were up late together and did not misbehave
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I think there are a few people here who could do with a weekend on the p*ss in Sydney.
Seriously, you know what to expect, boys will be boys, if you can't handle it stop lining their pockets and don't buy a membership
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Patrick Smith this morning apparently said Cousins' involvement is just heresay at this stage btw.
... and Principal Skinner and Mrs. Krabappel were kissing -- and
swearing!
Father! Uncle Apu! A teacher was in the closet with the principal and
he had as many arms as Vishnu and they were all very busy.
Lisa: I was in the library at the time, but Janey told me that
Principal Skinner and Bart's teacher, Mrs. -- what's her
name?
Marge: Krabappel?
Lisa: Yeah, Krabappel. They were naked in the closet together.
Marge: [gasps] Oh, my goodness!
Ralph: Mrs. Krabappel and Principal Skinner were in the closet
making babies and I saw one of the babies and then the baby
looked at me.
Wiggum: The baby looked at you?
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Ben Cousins, other Richmond players silent on Tiger booze probe
* Mike Sheahan, Aaron Langmaid
* From: Herald Sun
* April 12, 2010
UPDATE 2.15pm:
BEN Cousins' minders bungle attempts to keep the trouble-plagued Tigers recruit out of the spotlight as the club launched a probe into rowdy hotel claims.
Players were forced to run a media gauntlet today as Richmond investigates reports player played up at the team hotel in Sydney after the Tigers' loss to the Swans.
Cousins was part of an apparently carefully coordinated exit from the club’s Punt Rd headquarters this morning, as Richmond players - including Cousins - arrived silently for training as the club reeled from claims of player misbehaviour.
Keen on avoiding the spotlight in the wake of the latest Richmond booze scandal, the 31- yr-old arranged to have his car moved closer to a back entrance to avoid the TV cameras.
Bit a reporter noticed a Tigers staffer had moved his vehicle in preparation for his departure.
The awaiting media pack managed to catch the star seconds before he got into his late model Holden Commodore and sped off. Obviously, Cousins would not comment about the furore.
Tigers CEO Brendan Gale wasn't far behind, choosing the same moment to exit from another door where he was greeted by a driver.
But the choreographed escape turned to a comedy of errors, when cousins returned and got out of his car before getting a staff member park his car after an awkward three point turn.
A club statement last night confirmed the investigation and promised more details this afternoon. But so far the club has kept silent on how it is dealing with the alleged indiscretions.
With his mouth set tightly, Ben Cousins was quickly ushered into the rooms by two minders, with other players
Instead Richmond manager Craig Cameron was left to repeat a prepared statement several times, other than to add, "I think it's important that no-one jumps to any conclusions". See a video report here.
http://player.video.news.com.au/heraldsun/#mepe9k2JFSkiGzinP4eHWDyRT6DetGkD
Several players, including Ben Cousins, are under investigation after reports of drinking and unacceptable noise levels at the Inter-Continental Hotel until 3am.
The club statement said: "Richmond Football Club can confirm it is investigating allegations regarding player behaviour . . .
"The club is in the process of conducting a thorough investigation and, once the facts are established, a further update will be provided.''
Officials are understood to be disappointed and angry that players would misbehave after a third loss. Fines look certain, but, with the Tigers to play Melbourne next Sunday, suspensions are unlikely.
The latest off-field controversy to hit the club follow its furious response to claims last week that recovering drug addict Ben Cousins had suffered a relapse.
High-profile AFL player manager Ricky Olarenshaw incensed the Tigers by declaring Cousins had again gone off the rails.
"I'm not one for gossip and rumours but I've been hearing murmurings for probably the last month about Ben Cousins. And I got some things confirmed to me over the weekend, and it was talked about publicly on the airwaves yesterday, so I'm not the first one to talk about it, but I believe that Ben Cousins may have lost his way again," Olarenshaw told radio station Gold FM at the time.
Meantime, on the field Richmond coach Damien Hardwick says the Tigers took another step forward last night despite his team's' third big loss of the season.
Sydney defeated Richmond by 55 points at the SCG last night after kicking 10 goals to one in the first half.
The Tigers have now lost their three matches by a combined 183 points and sit last on the ladder with a percentage of 47.9.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ben-cousins-other-richmond-players-in-tiger-booze-probe/story-e6frf9jf-1225852544160
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call me a little crazy but I would have thought after a third week of humiliating losses, DH would have had the team up at 500am for a morning dip at Bondi followed by an 1 hour or so charging up sand dunes with tractor tyres chained to thier hips...That's the kinda headline I wanna read not some booze up after an behind kicking... that makes me sick to the core :'(
thats does not work ffs
positive reinforcement works, and hardwick is doing the right thing
those old school bs things work for one week not long term.
if the players were not having a go fair enough , but they are having a fair dinkum crack, they cant be punished for for losing, but praised for their efforts and for what they do right and educated on what they do wrong
ffs, we finally have someone going through a proper process
as dimma says its not about the scoreboard but the process, if u fans dont like it and want a quick fix f off
ok then so that's been the problem for the last 20 years ::)
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The media can't get an interview so they try to start up a 'let's try and embarrass the tigers more' campaign.
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SEN contacted the hotel but the hotel told them to direct all queries to the Richmond F.C. The AFL says it's an internal matter for Richmond to deal with. The club has this well locked down.
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Suspension handed to four Tigers
richmondfc.com.au
4:32 PM Mon 12 April, 2010
Richmond’s leadership group has handed down suspensions to four players following an investigation into player misbehaviour at the team hotel in Sydney on Sunday morning.
Daniel Connors has been suspended for eight weeks for unsociable behaviour, which included being intoxicated.
Connors will not be permitted to train at the club for the first six weeks of his suspension, and as part of this sanction will be attending alcohol counselling once a week for an indefinite period.
Luke McGuane, Dean Polo and Ben Cousins were suspended for one week.
While not intoxicated, the trio was deemed to have not acted responsibly or in a manner expected of them by the Club.
“The Richmond Football Club will not tolerate the behaviour shown by these players, and has acted accordingly,” Richmond General Manager of Football Craig Cameron said.
“These actions go against all the values that we set for ourselves as a club,” Cameron said.
Richmond CEO Brendon Gale said: “Every player at this club needs to fully understand the responsibility that goes with pulling on the yellow and black jumper.”
Daniel Connors said: “I am extremely disappointed in my actions and I regret the stupid decisions I made on the night. I apologise to all Richmond members and supporters, my team mates, club officials and the guests at the Intercontinental Hotel, who were subjected to my behaviour.”
“Over the next few weeks I will be doing everything I can to win back the respect of those who I have let down,” he said.
“This has been a massive wake up call for me and I accept that I have a problem with alcohol which I need to address,” Connors said.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/92152/default.aspx
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Daniel. Daniel. Daniel. :banghead
And we thought you were actually starting to turn the corner.
Couldn't give a stuff about the other three really, they have only been punished for their curfew.
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Cuz showing the way. :P
Connors must have been pretty smashed. That's one heck of a suspension.
Might not be on the list next season despite his perceived improvement.
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Quote; "Officials are understood to be disappointed and angry that players would misbehave after a third loss. Fines look certain, but, with the Tigers to play Melbourne next Sunday, suspensions are unlikely."
But some of you think as supporters we can't be disappointed and angry, by the looks of things even the club officials did not know they were drinking at 3am and like most of us, would expect them to be in their beds at that time. After 3 shocking loses this is not acceptable and if we have our supposed leaders like Ben Cousins (if it was him) leading other players to carry on at that time then we are in a very bad place at the moment, worse then most would have expected.
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eight weeks....what he do rape someone?
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connors suspended 8 weeks
polo mguane cousins 1 week
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Quote; "Officials are understood to be disappointed and angry that players would misbehave after a third loss. Fines look certain, but, with the Tigers to play Melbourne next Sunday, suspensions are unlikely."
But some of you think as supporters we can't be disappointed and angry, by the looks of things even the club officials did not know they were drinking at 3am and like most of us, would expect them to be in their beds at that time. After 3 shocking loses this is not acceptable and if we have our supposed leaders like Ben Cousins (if it was him) leading other players to carry on at that time then we are in a very bad place at the moment, worse then most would have expected.
You're such an old woman
:wallywink
:gotigers
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this is the rfc giving into media pressure and past precendents set by other clubs
this is ridiculous
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bring on the tank
:birthday :cheers :gotigers
lmaoooooo
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Conners career now at the crossroads all the suspensions i support. we cant afford to beat melbourne we need pick 4. some great work happening at punt rd now. :clapping
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bring on the tank
:birthday :cheers :gotigers
lmaoooooo
beat me to it :cheers
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i hope they make the media look like fools and say that there is nothing to discuss as the boys just were up late together and did not misbehave
mmmmmmmmmmmmm the fools are the players
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Quote; "Officials are understood to be disappointed and angry that players would misbehave after a third loss. Fines look certain, but, with the Tigers to play Melbourne next Sunday, suspensions are unlikely."
But some of you think as supporters we can't be disappointed and angry, by the looks of things even the club officials did not know they were drinking at 3am and like most of us, would expect them to be in their beds at that time. After 3 shocking loses this is not acceptable and if we have our supposed leaders like Ben Cousins (if it was him) leading other players to carry on at that time then we are in a very bad place at the moment, worse then most would have expected.
You're such an old woman
:wallywink
:gotigers
Yeah what ever man, I just can't believe this poo again, another media circus at the training session, we are poo on field and the laughing stock of the AFL and now this happens.
C'mon FNM do you actually condone this regardless of how minor it is or was?? Do you enjoy as a supporter sitting there, watching the crap we have watched this year so far and now reading this rubbish??? Good luck if you do but these players have let us down enough already this year on the field now they are doing it off the field.
No wonder the rest of the AFL community think we are a joke!!
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this is a nothing moment, its all a load of poo
if that was teh sydney team making noise nothing would be made of it, its just bec ben is a tiger ffs
we r getting a bit precious
A bit precious ?? :banghead :banghead :banghead
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we dont have to tank, ::)
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eight weeks....what he do rape someone?
It's called making a statement.
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If what's reported in the Herald-Sun is all there is then storm in a teacup stuff.
Storm in a tea cup hey ::)
There is more to come
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As a long time supporter of this proud football club, I am glad the club has finally made a stance.
There will be more to come.
If they dont want to toe the line, well play elsewhere.
they dont respect the jumper, they dont perform on match days to instructions, WTF has been happening for years needs to stop
Well done RFC :clapping
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Connors, discusting IMO well you have wasted your chance and it looks like everyone was correct regarding your attitude. GOODBYE!!
Polo you stuffing loser, one game back in the firsts and you think you are king poo, GOODBYE.
GOODBYE Ben, this will be your last year unless you decide to leave of your own accord which I know think you should. You have let the club down.
McGuane, whatever your not worth commenting on.
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eight weeks....what he do rape someone?
It's called making a statement.
:clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
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we dont have to tank, ::)
best to play it safe, :thumbsup history shows we suck at being bad too :lol
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this is a severe overreaction
sugars peees on a cop shop wall when drunk and didnt get 8 weeks
this is rfc giving in to media pressure and scared of the reaction they would have got if they let it go
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eight weeks....what he do rape someone?
It's called making a statement.
Still doesn't answer my question, what is the statement about? It's like answering a stuffing question nobody asked lol What he do!!!
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extremely disappointing to say the least ... whatever chance we had of being competitive next week against the dees has just been turned upside down.
FFS!
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Clearly Connors has had prior warnings from the club
Hopefully it has a similar impact to that of Steve Johnson
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this is a severe overreaction
sugars peees on a cop shop wall when drunk and didnt get 8 weeks
this is rfc giving in to media pressure and scared of the reaction they would have got if they let it go
no,
its the RFC finally getting tough and making a statement :gotigers
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Connors, discusting IMO well you have wasted your chance and it looks like everyone was correct regarding your attitude. GOODBYE!!
Polo you effing loser, one game back in the firsts and you think you are king poo, GOODBYE.
GOODBYE Ben, this will be your last year unless you decide to leave of your own accord which I know think you should. You have let the club down.
McGuane, whatever your not worth commenting on.
do u have kids?
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this is a severe overreaction
sugars peees on a cop shop wall when drunk and didnt get 8 weeks
this is rfc giving in to media pressure and scared of the reaction they would have got if they let it go
Your comments on this amaze me, Connors has been in the poo because of unruley behaviour since he came to the club. If you have a problem with discipline then don't expect us to progress at this club, these players have let everyone down and they deserve all they get. Cousins should have been sacked IMO, what a fool, gee rehabs going great and what a wonderful leader.
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wow 8 weeks... Stevie J style huh? Hope you come back and improve as much as he did.
Hardline from the leaders of the club, absolutely fantastic to see.
Cuz your starting to make it difficult...
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this is a severe overreaction
sugars peees on a cop shop wall when drunk and didnt get 8 weeks
this is rfc giving in to media pressure and scared of the reaction they would have got if they let it go
no,
its the RFC finally getting tough and making a statement :gotigers
Why didn't they take action before it happened?
They know some of these kids have got shiit for brains :banghead
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Im with X wtf did he do for 8 weeks, poo in the managers coffee cup? 8 weeks is hard time and he is doing six in alcatraz away from the club, gotta be something to do with excrement...ill put money on it lol He has been coming good out there for us and we can ill afford to be sitting his arse out of games.
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Connors, discusting IMO well you have wasted your chance and it looks like everyone was correct regarding your attitude. GOODBYE!!
Polo you effing loser, one game back in the firsts and you think you are king poo, GOODBYE.
GOODBYE Ben, this will be your last year unless you decide to leave of your own accord which I know think you should. You have let the club down.
McGuane, whatever your not worth commenting on.
do u have kids?
Yeah I do and they don't carry on like these idiots. BTW WTF has that got to do with it, these guys play for the RFC, they represent the RFC, the represent the game of AFL. They need to stand up and do what they are payed to do, if I did that in my profession....well work it out.
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this is a severe overreaction
sugars peees on a cop shop wall when drunk and didnt get 8 weeks
this is rfc giving in to media pressure and scared of the reaction they would have got if they let it go
no,
its the RFC finally getting tough and making a statement :gotigers
Why didn't they take action before it happened?
They know some of these kids have got shiit for brains :banghead
yep they do, but they cant suspend them for potentially doin something stupid, gotta wait till it happens ;D
timing couldn't have been better with this weeks game :thumbsup
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Connors will not be permitted to train at the club for the first six weeks of his suspension, and as part of this sanction will be attending alcohol counselling once a week for an indefinite period.
What is the point of this?
Why not put him on an ultra difficult physical program. Thrash him like a mule for 6 weeks. If he passes the physical tests after 6 weeks let him play, otherwise he stays out of the team until he can pass the test or until 10 weeks.
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this is a severe overreaction
sugars peees on a cop shop wall when drunk and didnt get 8 weeks
this is rfc giving in to media pressure and scared of the reaction they would have got if they let it go
no,
its the RFC finally getting tough and making a statement :gotigers
Why didn't they take action before it happened?
They know some of these kids have got shiit for brains :banghead
yep they do, but they cant suspend them for potentially doin something stupid, gotta wait till it happens ;D
timing couldn't have been better with this weeks game :thumbsup
They could have baby sat them ::)
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Connors was lucky only get 8. :cheers
;)
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wow 8 weeks... Stevie J style huh? Hope you come back and improve as much as he did.
Hardline from the leaders of the club, absolutely fantastic to see.
Cuz your starting to make it difficult...
its an overeaction imo
load of bull
why didnt sugar get 8 weeks last yr???
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agree with you Jake, it serves to ostracise and make him feel his punishment but we need him to be learning his craft as well, he would be doing that a lot better with the group with extra physical torture thrown in so he feels the burn.
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Don't feed us BS winks, either spill ya guts or stop being a show bag.
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wow 8 weeks... Stevie J style huh? Hope you come back and improve as much as he did.
Hardline from the leaders of the club, absolutely fantastic to see.
Cuz your starting to make it difficult...
its an overeaction imo
load of bull
why didnt sugar get 8 weeks last yr???
Not going to debate this with you.
He was LUCKY only to get 8 weeks :banghead
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so what did connors do that was so bad beside drink
this is ridiculous
if they r gonna give an 8 week penalty thye should say y!!!!
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Don't feed us BS winks, either spill ya guts or stop being a show bag.
Why spill my guts to nuffers.
if you want to know, buy the Herald Sun tomorrow ;) ;)
It will come out what actually happened.
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Suspending Schultz didn't make him a better player
Eight weeks is ridiculous :banghead
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this is a severe overreaction
sugars peees on a cop shop wall when drunk and didnt get 8 weeks
this is rfc giving in to media pressure and scared of the reaction they would have got if they let it go
no,
its the RFC finally getting tough and making a statement :gotigers
Why didn't they take action before it happened?
They know some of these kids have got shiit for brains :banghead
yep they do, but they cant suspend them for potentially doin something stupid, gotta wait till it happens ;D
timing couldn't have been better with this weeks game :thumbsup
They could have baby sat them ::)
lol
if they need it then I'm glad this happened.
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Suspending Schultz didn't make him a better player
Eight weeks is ridiculous :banghead
He should of got a lot more.
and it aint the first time either.
Its about time a few of these bigheads "'pulled there head in""
Way too many rock stars at punt road
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wow 8 weeks... Stevie J style huh? Hope you come back and improve as much as he did.
Hardline from the leaders of the club, absolutely fantastic to see.
Cuz your starting to make it difficult...
its an overeaction imo
load of bull
why didnt sugar get 8 weeks last yr???
new club leadership group, new rules
not hard to figure out
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Suspending Schultz didn't make him a better player
Eight weeks is ridiculous :banghead
He should of got a lot more.
and it aint the first time either.
Its about time a few of these bigheads "'pulled there head in""
Way too many rock stars at punt road
Then it's a blight on the club for not addressing the problems until it came to this
People think they're tough for these suspensions
They're bloody weak because it should never have come to this :banghead
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Suspending Schultz didn't make him a better player
Eight weeks is ridiculous :banghead
Its about time a few of these bigheads "'pulled there head in""
Way too many rock stars at punt road
quote of the year, has been the case for a long long time. I had you all wrong Jack, thought you were one of the former employees who contributed to this rockstar culture by pandering to their massive egos. The fact you are so strong in support of the clubs strong arm action speaks volumes. :cheers
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Suspending Schultz didn't make him a better player
Eight weeks is ridiculous :banghead
He should of got a lot more.
and it aint the first time either.
Its about time a few of these bigheads "'pulled there head in""
Way too many rock stars at punt road
Then it's a blight on the club for not addressing the problems until it came to this
People think they're tough for these suspensions
They're bloody weak because it should never have come to this :banghead
??? ???
gotta start somewhere FNM, yes they have been weak for far too long, time to harden the eff up
not sure what u want? you're arguing six of one, half dozen of the other... as i said gotta start somewhere
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if you want to know, buy the Herald Sun tomorrow ;) ;)
What a wonderful publication ::)
They and all the rest of the media will hound Cuz until he stuffs up again
With everyone watching his every move, only a matter of time till he goes down
I hate them and everything they stand for
Will never buy the trash again
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Suspending Schultz didn't make him a better player
Eight weeks is ridiculous :banghead
Its about time a few of these bigheads "'pulled there head in""
Way too many rock stars at punt road
quote of the year, has been the case for a long long time. I had you all wrong Jack, thought you were one of the former employees who contributed to this rockstar culture by pandering to their massive egos. The fact you are so strong in support of the clubs strong arm action speaks volumes. :cheers
And that is why I can see issues within that have never been adressed, and thats why we have been a failure for so long.. :banghead
Already the new recruits think there "'Movies stars" . about time the club has clipped a few wings, maybe they will now put in the hard yards in and improve there onfield performance
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if you want to know, buy the Herald Sun tomorrow ;) ;)
What a wonderful publication ::)
They and all the rest of the media will hound Cuz until he stuffs up again
With everyone watching his every move, only a matter of time till he goes down
I hate them and everything they stand for
Will never buy the trash again
What you want to buy the AGE instead???? :banghead
Caro wont miss the tiges tomorrow either :banghead
As for Cus, I love him, but the end is near., very near
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Connors, discusting IMO well you have wasted your chance and it looks like everyone was correct regarding your attitude. GOODBYE!!
Polo you effing loser, one game back in the firsts and you think you are king poo, GOODBYE.
GOODBYE Ben, this will be your last year unless you decide to leave of your own accord which I know think you should. You have let the club down.
McGuane, whatever your not worth commenting on.
do u have kids?
Yeah I do and they don't carry on like these idiots. BTW WTF has that got to do with it, these guys play for the RFC, they represent the RFC, the represent the game of AFL. They need to stand up and do what they are payed to do, if I did that in my profession....well work it out.
well one day one of ur kids will stuff up and make a mistake and they represent u , lets see how u deal with it
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correct weight on the last ;D :shh
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spill your guts monky ;D
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As for Cus, I love him, but the end is near., very near
It'll be the greatest tragedy if he goes out the wrong way
For him, not for the club
Want him so much to get over his problems
I hope this suspension will do him good and not send him backwards >:(
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eight weeks....what he do rape someone?
It's called making a statement.
Still doesn't answer my question, what is the statement about? It's like answering a effing question nobody asked lol What he do!!!
not saying a word buy a paper ;D
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spill your guts monky ;D
how long have l been saying Conners was a loose cannon & plays for himself.
His day has come.
that is all ;D
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As for Cus, I love him, but the end is near., very near
It'll be the greatest tragedy if he goes out the wrong way
For him, not for the club
Want him so much to get over his problems
I hope this suspension will do him good and not send him backwards >:(
Ben is struggling & needs all the support he can get at this time.
His football speaks for itself & his darn good at it.
he will tell you the rest ;D
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eight weeks....what he do rape someone?
It's called making a statement.
Still doesn't answer my question, what is the statement about? It's like answering a effing question nobody asked lol What he do!!!
he behaved like a LOSER, anything bu 110% commitment can't be tolerated on our quest for the 11th flag, being on the booze all night and making a general prick of yourself is well below the commitment needed.
The club has done well in making a statem,ent that enough is enough :clapping
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The timing of the incident contributed to what punishment was handed out. The football world has changed. These guys are professionals, they have let the team down by their actions and the leadership group have responded accordingly. 8 weeks Connors must have done something really bad. Cousins and McGuane should have known better.
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Connors, discusting IMO well you have wasted your chance and it looks like everyone was correct regarding your attitude. GOODBYE!!
Polo you effing loser, one game back in the firsts and you think you are king poo, GOODBYE.
GOODBYE Ben, this will be your last year unless you decide to leave of your own accord which I know think you should. You have let the club down.
McGuane, whatever your not worth commenting on.
do u have kids?
Yeah I do and they don't carry on like these idiots. BTW WTF has that got to do with it, these guys play for the RFC, they represent the RFC, the represent the game of AFL. They need to stand up and do what they are payed to do, if I did that in my profession....well work it out.
well one day one of ur kids will eff up and make a mistake and they represent u , lets see how u deal with it
Stupid comparison, the same sort of crap that was raised when we all debated getting Cuz to the club. They have a job to do and the ones that got on the pee were not travelling that well anyway apart from maybe one game from McGuane and a couple from Connors.
You have no idea of the sort of people I have supported in my life, but this lot are a rabble, at least the people I have and do support show more respect at the end of it, they don't go and make everyone look like fools. This lot have embaressed the club, its supporters and....... well it just goes to show where we are at.
They deserve all they get and now they have put more pressure on the younger guys at the club as they now have to cover four players, how we do that is anyones guess.
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Shouldnt of let Connors 'bait "' him either.
And should of hit Connors harder
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Wow what a year we are having.....our team is crap,and now offield we are also poo.
what else can go wrong for crying out loud.
To be honest i dont know who or what to believe.Is benny G and damien right about our club beginning the long trek back to to the top,or are we just poo that stinks
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Shouldnt of let Connors 'bait "' him either.
And should of hit Connors harder
This answers why connors wont be around for 6 weeks then....
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Wow what a year we are having.....our team is crap,and now offield we are also poo.
what else can go wrong for crying out loud.
To be honest i dont know who or what to believe.Is benny G and damien right about our club beginning the long trek back to to the top,or are we just poo that stinks
Keep your Faith
The club is doing whats best & if that means some hard decisions have to be made then it started in the pre season ;D
some just plain have to go
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Shouldnt of let Connors 'bait "' him either.
And should of hit Connors harder
This answers why connors wont be around for 6 weeks then....
Correct
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once things settle down, by about thursday, the club will turn this into a positive and name a couple of first gamers probably dea and webberley
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once things settle down, by about thursday, the club will turn this into a positive and name a couple of first gamers probably dea and webberley
Wouldn't that be great, I would love to see these two show a bit and maybe a couple of others, even Polak. Astbury would be another one I would like to see come through.
These are the players that are our future not the 4 that have just disrespected the club and us supporters.
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If he was at the Blooz he would be promoted into the leadership group
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This is a bullsh1t thread. I am sick and tired ofpeople moralizing about 20 yo men. Get over yourselves. It's a pretty poo world when it looks like people actually enjoy teeing off at players for whatever reason. Love to see what you angels get up to at night behind closed doors.
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Agree with the stand the club has taken on this
Players need to understand they have responsibility to the Club, members and supporters whether they like it or not.
8 weeks for Connors is reasonable and week for the other 3 is right too.
And I admit to being extremely disappointed with what happened. They all should have known better but at the same time I am not going to burn them all at the stake like some people would like too ::) ;D
They stuffed up and the Club has acted swiftly and firmly - as a member I cannot ask for more.
The only problem I have with this is the media's spin as they are making it solely about Benny - when it isn't
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The club knew there were issues, thus the 8 weeks.
Not the first time either.
As for Ben, on last chance.
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Connors always has had a problem with his attitude. Struggled to follow game plans, structures, do the the team thing over seeking individual glory. Everyone can see the talent this guy has, skill, unpredictability but without the correct temperament and discipline this will never be realized. Eight weeks is as much about slapping him into line and building up the base he needs. If he doesn't fall into line now he is gone - no more chances that is obvious. In addition this is a huge message to the rest of the list - the club and team or the road.
Out of Cousins, Polo and McGuane, McGuane will be the biggest loss this weekend. He is our defense.
Stripes
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Agree with the stand the club has taken on this
Players need to understand they have responsibility to the Club, members and supporters whether they like it or not.
8 weeks for Connors is reasonable and week for the other 3 is right too.
And I admit to being extremely disappointed with what happened. They all should have known better but at the same time I am not going to burn them all at the stake like some people would like too ::) ;D
They stuffed up and the Club has acted swiftly and firmly - as a member I cannot ask for more.
The only problem I have with this is the media's spin as they are making it solely about Benny - when it isn't
Yep well said WP, pretty logical, while I don't want to "burn them at the stake" I hope they really realise what they have done here. I don't just mean by rocking up and saying how sorry these fools are either. Honestly we are the laughing stock of the comp on field and now this, I am afraid it's a real dent in our credibility off field.
We are performing poorly on field and at least as supporters we could turn around to the rest and say well look at us off field, now...... What do we as supporters have now, hope that something will happen in 5-10 years time and thats about it.
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As posted in the Footy Classified thread, they claim Connors got drunk at the hotel's mini-bar and tried to fight his teammates and had to be physically restrained by the 3 other teammates.
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As posted in the Footy Classified thread, they claim Connors got drunk at the hotel's mini-bar and tried to fight his teammates and had to be physically restrained by the 3 other teammates.
Yep and copped one from Cus
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As posted in the Footy Classified thread, they claim Connors got drunk at the hotel's mini-bar and tried to fight his teammates and had to be physically restrained by the 3 other teammates.
Yep and copped one from Cus
Yep in the face and Dan has a blackeye to show for it.
No wonder Connors copped 8 weeks. Off his face and taking on teammates ::). Hardly "yahooing" as was initially reported.
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long overdue this should have been sorted when it started
pity the club hasnt acted sooner, never sweep it under the carpet.
New rules dont abide you are out. :thumbsup
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As posted in the Footy Classified thread, they claim Connors got drunk at the hotel's mini-bar and tried to fight his teammates and had to be physically restrained by the 3 other teammates.
Yep and copped one from Cus
Yep in the face and Dan has a blackeye to show for it.
No wonder Connors copped 8 weeks. Off his face and taking on teammates ::). Hardly "yahooing" as was initially reported.
MT , forget about what spin the club put on it, there is alot more to it.
Who is to blame, ??? THE CLUB. No where near strict enough..
Most clubs have a 1.00am curfew , not Richmond it seems
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long overdue this should have been sorted when it started
pity the club hasnt acted sooner, never sweep it under the carpet.
New rules dont abide you are out. :thumbsup
I don't think the Club tried to sweep it under the carpet. In fact it was the Club who notified the media they were investigating an incident at the Hotel. Sure it would have been ideal to announce the penalties as soon as they found out about it and save 24 hours of media speculation but they obviously needed to find out first what exactly happened. You don't want to end up with a Collingwood situation (re: Didak and Shaw) where the story gets worse after the Club has held a press conference.
Daniel is very lucky not to be out. Interesting to see if he is given the flick even if he comes back in 8 weeks time and plays some good footy for the rest of the year.
The one positive is it wouldn't be a disaster if it turns out the 4 names aren't around in two years time. Cuz we know will be retired be then and the other three are expendable. Connors has ability but needs to get his head in gear and off the booze for good if he is to survive whereas Lukey and Polo aren't the greatest kicks.
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After reading all the media reports I think the club should have sacked Conners. Theres no point in keeping him, you cant help a kid who doesnt want to help himself.
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As posted in the Footy Classified thread, they claim Connors got drunk at the hotel's mini-bar and tried to fight his teammates and had to be physically restrained by the 3 other teammates.
Yep and copped one from Cus
Yep in the face and Dan has a blackeye to show for it.
No wonder Connors copped 8 weeks. Off his face and taking on teammates ::). Hardly "yahooing" as was initially reported.
MT , forget about what spin the club put on it, there is alot more to it.
Who is to blame, ??? THE CLUB. No where near strict enough..
Most clubs have a 1.00am curfew , not Richmond it seems
They drank at the hotel bar till 1am (curfew?) but a handful then went upstairs to a private room to continue on. It was in the corridor outside the rooms at 3am that the incident occurred. The players are adults Jack. The Club isn't their nanny. Seems some can't make the right decisions both on and off-field ::).
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Ben Cousins punched drunken teammate Daniel Connors in Sydney fracas
Michael Warner, Aaron Langmaid
Herald Sun
April 13, 2010
BEN Cousins punched a drunken Richmond teammate in the face while trying to restrain him during a boozy night out.
Cousins, Dean Polo and Luke McGuane were stood down for a week while youngster Daniel Connors, the cause of Saturday night's ruckus, copped a massive eight-week ban.
Were the Tigers too tough? Have your say in the comments below
Seething Richmond officials said the group's conduct during a rowdy gathering at the team hotel in Sydney on Saturday night was "unacceptable".
Cousins, 31, was among a group of players seen drinking at the Intercontinental Hotel bar between 11.30pm and 1am.
A handful of Tigers then shifted the party to an upstairs room where a drunken Connors was seen arguing with Cousins, Polo and McGuane in a corridor at 3am.
The trio are believed to have tried to restrain Connors, with Cousins giving him a black eye.
Hotel guests complained about the wild showdown in the corridor.
A club insider said Connors was being "loud, obnoxious and aggressive".
It comes just days after high-profile player manager Ricky Olarenshaw claimed Cousins, who is a recovering drug addict, had again "lost his way".
The club recently rejected a report that Cousins had been warned to curb his drinking.
Long-suffering Tigers fans reacted furiously to revelations the team was at the bar after Saturday night's 55-point thrashing by the Swans.
Richmond has lost its opening three games by a combined 183 points to become the AFL's laughing stock.
New coach Damien Hardwick delivered a fearful spray to the club's entire playing list yesterday.
Connors, 21, who has been in trouble before because of his drunken antics, admitted to a drinking problem.
"I am extremely disappointed in my actions and I regret the stupid decisions I made on the night," he said.
"I apologise to all Richmond members, teammates, club officials and guests at the Intercontinental Hotel, who were subjected to my behaviour.
"Over the next few weeks I will be doing everything I can to win back the respect of those who I have let down.
"This has been a massive wake-up call for me and I accept that I have a problem with alcohol, which I need to address."
Connors cannot train at the club for the first six weeks of his suspension and must undergo alcohol counselling indefinitely.
Richmond football manager Craig Cameron said Cousins, Polo and McGuane were not intoxicated but failed to act responsibly.
"The Richmond Football Club will not tolerate the behaviour shown by these players, and has acted accordingly," Cameron said. "These actions go against all the values that we set for ourselves as a club."
Furious fans called on the league's worst team to spend less time partying and more time on their game.
"This is so disappointing for fans," cheer squad president David Norman said.
"The last thing we need is to have players in the best 22, out of action because of something stupid they did off the field.
"It's hard enough if they have an injury or if they do something dumb like belt somebody during a game.
"You name the average 23-year-old who is getting the sort of money these guys are? It's a joke."
Sydney police said they had not received a complaint.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ben-cousins-punched-drunken-teammate-daniel-connors-in-sydney-fracas/story-e6frf7jo-1225852936687
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MT.
The team manager or someone should of been overseeing the situation.
He still wasnt in his room at 4.00am
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rumour that Hardwick sprayed em seems to be true, well done to him, no more stuffen around at punt road.
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Richmond makes bold statement in suspending players in lead up to game
Mike Sheahan
Herald Sun
April 13, 2010
RICHMOND made a bold, jolting statement to its players, suspending four in the week leading to the game seen as its best chance of scoring a win in 2010.
The Tigers suspended Daniel Connors for eight weeks and three others, including Ben Cousins, for one game - Sunday's MCG clash with Melbourne.
The crackdown comes after an investigation into alleged player misbehaviour at the team's Sydney hotel after Saturday night's loss to the Swans.
It follows the suspension of recruit Relton Roberts for one match for misbehaviour after his debut in Round 1.
It is a sign the administration, led by Brendon Gale and Craig Cameron, and new coach Damien Hardwick, plans to build a new culture at the AFL's worst-performed club of the past 25 years.
The call on Connors comes as no surprise as he has a history of alcohol-related problems; the call on Cousins, though, could have major ramifications.
He, Luke McGuane and Dean Polo were cleared of being intoxicated, but were deemed not to have acted responsibly during Connors' "unsociable behaviour".
The suspension raises the question of his future yet again. He is only three months away from his 32nd birthday and a mere shadow of the player he was at West Coast. Yet, he remains among Richmond's best half-dozen and wants to play on. Certainly this year.
He was the oldest player by eight years in Saturday night's shenanigans, and, therefore, seen to be the one who should have brought Connors under control. Or called in club officials.
Unofficial reports say Cousins tried to restrain the youngster, but to no avail.
The problem for the quartet is that Richmond had suffered another heavy loss - 55 points - with no cause for celebration, with a game eight days away.
The secondary problem is the players were representing the club interstate and recognisable, Cousins, anyway.
A couple of beers is one thing, but house guests at good hotels don't like being woken up in the middle of the night, particularly top-level athletes with engagements the following day.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/richmond-makes-bold-statement-in-suspending-players-in-lead-up-to-game/story-e6frf7jo-1225852931597
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Ben Cousins punched drunken teammate Daniel Connors in Sydney fracas
Michael Warner, Aaron Langmaid
Herald Sun
April 13, 2010
BEN Cousins punched a drunken Richmond teammate in the face while trying to restrain him during a boozy night out.
Cousins, Dean Polo and Luke McGuane were stood down for a week while youngster Daniel Connors, the cause of Saturday night's ruckus, copped a massive eight-week ban.
Were the Tigers too tough? Have your say in the comments below
Seething Richmond officials said the group's conduct during a rowdy gathering at the team hotel in Sydney on Saturday night was "unacceptable".
Cousins, 31, was among a group of players seen drinking at the Intercontinental Hotel bar between 11.30pm and 1am.
A handful of Tigers then shifted the party to an upstairs room where a drunken Connors was seen arguing with Cousins, Polo and McGuane in a corridor at 3am.
The trio are believed to have tried to restrain Connors, with Cousins giving him a black eye.
Hotel guests complained about the wild showdown in the corridor.
A club insider said Connors was being "loud, obnoxious and aggressive".
It comes just days after high-profile player manager Ricky Olarenshaw claimed Cousins, who is a recovering drug addict, had again "lost his way".
The club recently rejected a report that Cousins had been warned to curb his drinking.
Long-suffering Tigers fans reacted furiously to revelations the team was at the bar after Saturday night's 55-point thrashing by the Swans.
Richmond has lost its opening three games by a combined 183 points to become the AFL's laughing stock.
New coach Damien Hardwick delivered a fearful spray to the club's entire playing list yesterday.
Connors, 21, who has been in trouble before because of his drunken antics, admitted to a drinking problem.
"I am extremely disappointed in my actions and I regret the stupid decisions I made on the night," he said.
"I apologise to all Richmond members, teammates, club officials and guests at the Intercontinental Hotel, who were subjected to my behaviour.
"Over the next few weeks I will be doing everything I can to win back the respect of those who I have let down.
"This has been a massive wake-up call for me and I accept that I have a problem with alcohol, which I need to address."
Connors cannot train at the club for the first six weeks of his suspension and must undergo alcohol counselling indefinitely.
Richmond football manager Craig Cameron said Cousins, Polo and McGuane were not intoxicated but failed to act responsibly.
"The Richmond Football Club will not tolerate the behaviour shown by these players, and has acted accordingly," Cameron said. "These actions go against all the values that we set for ourselves as a club."
Furious fans called on the league's worst team to spend less time partying and more time on their game.
"This is so disappointing for fans," cheer squad president David Norman said.
"The last thing we need is to have players in the best 22, out of action because of something stupid they did off the field.
"It's hard enough if they have an injury or if they do something dumb like belt somebody during a game.
"You name the average 23-year-old who is getting the sort of money these guys are? It's a joke."
Sydney police said they had not received a complaint.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ben-cousins-punched-drunken-teammate-daniel-connors-in-sydney-fracas/story-e6frf7jo-1225852936687
I WANT TO HEAR IT!
:)
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MT.
The team manager or someone should of been overseeing the situation.
He still wasnt in his room at 4.00am
They're not little kids on a school camp Jack. They are meant to be grown adults who know and understand the rules in place. To become a proper professional footballer you need self-discipline and self-dedication. You don't have a nanny on and off-field with you 24/7. Dan has himself and only himself to blame as he started it all by getting smashed in the first place on saturday night/sunday morning. Apart from the obvious misbehaviourial issues he would have been told from the time he walked into the club that alcohol especially excessive alcohol in your system affects your recovery and hence puts you at a greater risk of injury. As Ramps said he's very lucky not to have his contract ripped up in front of him yesterday and instead has been given one final chance to get off the booze for good and decide once and for all if he wants to be an AFL footballer. If not then he can join the many talented bush players running around in local comps and drink to his heart's content.
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Richmond acts on player brawl
MICHAEL GLEESON AND JAKE NIALL
April 13, 2010
DRUNKEN Richmond player Daniel Connors fought with teammates during an ugly early morning rampage, which has seen him suspended for eight matches and three of his teammates, including Ben Cousins, banned for a game each.
Connors' drunken escapade in which he fought with Cousins, Luke McGuane and Dean Polo, included him smashing his head on a toilet seat and waking up and upsetting hotel guests.
Richmond is understood to have seriously considered sacking the 21-year-old defender for his outrageous night. He has priors at the club for unseemly drunkenness at club functions including last year's best and fairest award.
Cousins, McGuane and Polo were all suspended for a match by the club for not showing sufficient leadership in stopping the escalating events sooner. McGuane and Polo also arrived late to the club's recovery session.
Connors was sporting a black eye after the early morning fracas - most of which occurred after 4am - though it is unclear whether he sustained the sore eye in the fight with teammates or when he smashed the toilet seat in his room. He has been told to pay for a new toilet seat.
He was still drunk or at least showing the effects of a bad hangover at the recovery session at Coogee beach.
The incidents occurred at Sydney's Intercontinental Hotel, where the team was staying after the match with the Swans. Some players and officials gathered for a drink in the hotel foyer after the game and Connors later became drunk, loud and abusive. Other guests staying in the hotel, including international athletes preparing to compete in the World Triathlon Championships the next day, complained of being disturbed.
The bar shut at 1am but some players stayed in the lobby to talk. It is understood Connors continued drinking using the stock from his hotel room minibar.
With Connors causing a ruckus downstairs in the foyer, two of his teammates went to collect him and took him upstairs. He then fought with the trio when he refused to go to his room.
Richmond's leadership group has handed down the suspensions to the four players after a club investigation into the misbehaviour.
The new coach Damien Hardwick, CEO Brendon Gale and general manager Craig Cameron are determined to establish higher standards of discipline and stamp their authority on what they see as an impressionable young list. Connors was suspended for ''unsociable behaviour, which included being intoxicated''.
He will not be permitted to train at the club for the next six weeks and will be required to attend alcohol counselling once a week for an indefinite period.
McGuane, Polo and Cousins were said not to have been drunk but a club statement said ''the trio was deemed to have not acted responsibly or in a manner expected of them by the club''.
"The Richmond Football Club will not tolerate the behaviour shown by these players, and has acted accordingly. These actions go against all the values that we set for ourselves as a club," Richmond general manager of football Craig Cameron said.
Connors admitted that he had a problem with alcohol and accepted his punishment.
''I am extremely disappointed in my actions and I regret the stupid decisions I made on the night. I apologise to all Richmond members and supporters, my teammates, club officials and the guests at the Intercontinental Hotel, who were subjected to my behaviour.
"Over the next few weeks I will be doing everything I can to win back the respect of those who I have let down.
"This has been a massive wake-up call for me and I accept that I have a problem with alcohol which I need to address.''
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-acts-on-player-brawl-20100412-s44e.html
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Connors should come to an agreement with the club and walk.
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It is a young list. The club had to send a message to the other players that this sort of behaviour will not be tolerated. Agree with the comments about the culture at the club. Daniel will be facing an uphill struggle to stay at the club. Hopefully the spray by Hardwick will fire up the players for a big one against Melbourne.
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Good editorial by Gleeson - very balanced and on the money ;) ;) :thumbsup
Punishment fits the crime for a young Tiger with prior convictions
MICHAEL GLEESON
April 13, 2010
DANIEL Connors is a fringe player in a poor side and seemingly an easy scapegoat for a new coach to make a big statement.
But Daniel Connors is not the player to feel aggrieved.
While there is a disparity in serving a longer club suspension than Mathew Stokes drew from his club for being in possession of cocaine, Connors has no cause for complaint.
He was not only blind drunk, loud and obnoxious, he also has a black eye possibly sustained in the brawl he had with his three teammates who are also now suspended, or possibly when he broke his hotel room toilet bowl.
The players who should feel most aggrieved by Punt Road justice are Dean Polo, Luke McGuane and Ben Cousins, the trio who packed the drunk Connors off to bed. Unfortunately he was not so easily persuaded and returned to the lobby throwing punches when they again tried to convince him he had had enough.
McGuane and Polo slept in and were late to the recovery session at Coogee beach the next morning so they have been given a week's suspension. It was a recovery session where Connors was far from recovered, still obviously either drunk or hungover.
Cousins has been banned for not protesting hard enough, early enough, to his teammate's behaviour. This was arguably the harshest penalty of all for Cousins is clearly battling on-going issues of self-control without being held responsible for managing the misbehaviour of others.
Connors has an unhealthy rap sheet at Richmond having been drunk and embarrassing at last year's best-and-fairest award. So eight weeks suddenly does not seem so steep a punishment.
Indeed, there were those at Punt Road who wondered if Connors should not be sacked.
Connors has unashamedly been made an example of by Richmond and for good reason.
Richmond is in such a lamentably poor state at the moment that this was the right moment to make a statement as shrilly as the drunken brawling in the Intercontinental Hotel.
Players had been told pre-season that the club would not tolerate moronic behaviour. Only weeks ago all players and officials sat in the change rooms and embraced the ambitious plan for playing finals three times in the next five years on their way to also winning three flags in 10 years.
The players signed up to do what it took to get there.
Suffice it to say, Saturday night was not part of that plan.
Irrespective of the fact Richmond confronts Melbourne this week - one of the few sides it would reckon on being a chance to defeat - the prospect of a rare victory being jeopardised by the suspensions is irrelevant.
Like cutting a list of its dead wood, a coach never gets a better chance than in his first year: cut deep and cut early. Damien Hardwick is doing at Richmond what Alastair Clarkson did at Hawthorn (Luke Hodge was suspended after missing a recovery session) and Dean Bailey did at Melbourne (suspending Col Sylvia and Aaron Davey) in taking the hard stand with a young group and amplifying a message to get through even the thickest heads, young and old.
It was not because Connors was a fringe player that he got eight weeks. It was that he was a repeat offender.
Furthermore there are few players at Richmond who are not fringe players.
The state of its list means it would not have mattered - the same message would be sent.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/punishment-fits-the-crime-for-a-young-tiger-with-prior-convictions-20100412-s44h.html
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Connors should come to an agreement with the club and walk.
I think 8 weeks is good.
If he comes back in ripping shape and hasn't touched a drop in that time, he may have realised how lucky he is to have a chance to play AFL.
If he comes back and hasn't changed, then he gets the chop.
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Richmond's leadership group has handed down the suspensions to the four players after a club investigation into the misbehaviour.
They failed there team mate here, 8 weeks is a joke 4 is enough. :banghead
Young leadership group will make these over the top decisions though.
4 weeks and a almighty spray from Hardwick should have been enough IMO.
Anyway it will give others a chance next week.
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Short term pain - Long term gain.
It's a new beginning 'clean slate' at Tigerland if you will - It's gunna be a rough trip for a while, lets hope we make it out the other end. :gotigers
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This is a bullsh1t thread. I am sick and tired ofpeople moralizing about 20 yo men. Get over yourselves. It's a pretty poo world when it looks like people actually enjoy teeing off at players for whatever reason. Love to see what you angels get up to at night behind closed doors.
l count my money ;D
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Connors always has had a problem with his attitude. Struggled to follow game plans, structures, do the the team thing over seeking individual glory. Everyone can see the talent this guy has, skill, unpredictability but without the correct temperament and discipline this will never be realized. Eight weeks is as much about slapping him into line and building up the base he needs. If he doesn't fall into line now he is gone - no more chances that is obvious. In addition this is a huge message to the rest of the list - the club and team or the road.
Out of Cousins, Polo and McGuane, McGuane will be the biggest loss this weekend. He is our defense.
Stripes
spot on :thumbsup
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After reading all the media reports I think the club should have sacked Conners. Theres no point in keeping him, you cant help a kid who doesnt want to help himself.
exactly :thumbsup
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Richmond's leadership group has handed down the suspensions to the four players after a club investigation into the misbehaviour.
They failed there team mate here, 8 weeks is a joke 4 is enough. :banghead
Young leadership group will make these over the top decisions though.
4 weeks and a almighty spray from Hardwick should have been enough IMO.
Anyway it will give others a chance next week.
Conners was already on his last chance, His done this before & should have been sacked
l agree with what the club has done.
Now is the time & chance for other players to stake thier claim.
If a posistion opens up for other players to win spots & be solid contibutors every week then thats what l want for Richmond.
Then the players with problem must excell to win back thier position & players with drinking problems & a bad attitude mainly buckle.
l would hate for this to happen to a player like Conners who does have alot to offer with his best ahead of him :thumbsup
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Caro on 3aw just before 7pm
Caro: Disappointing as Ben had already been told off before about his drinking.
Healy: But Cousins wasn't the one with the alcohol issues on Saturday night. Are you just guessing he was drinking Caro or did someone tell you he was?
Caro: "I know that Ben was drinking"
ps. She also admitted she wasn't a Richmond member (not a member of any club).
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Caro on 3aw just before 7pm
Caro: Disappointing as Ben had already been told off before about his drinking.
Healy: But Cousins wasn't the one with the alcohol issues on Saturday night. Are you just guessing he was drinking Caro or did someone tell you he was?
Caro: "I know that Ben was drinking"
Well isn't that just covering all bases
"told off about his drinking"... when was that again? Season 2009 not 2010. Sadly, she wont let go of this. Clearly Benny Gale is a liar because he is adamant that Cuz has not been spoken too about his drinking since he has been back at the club (circa Sept 2009) :banghead Sorry Caro Benny Gale has a bit more credibility on this topic than you
And BTW If I was with them and had say 2 beers - then she could easily say I was drinking. There is a massive difference between drinking and being drunk. Also would love to know here supposed insider is (should be out the door) .... more gutter journalism by Caro... it's a clear as the nose on your face that you want Benny to fall off the wagon because it will give you one great story and an excuse to say "I told you so and I was right"...
As I said more gutter journalism
ps. She also admitted she wasn't a Richmond member (not a member of any club).
:gobdrop :gobdrop what a surprise NOT
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God I wish the club would ban Caroline "Swamp donkey" Wilson from the club.
Her dad did enough damage, does she feel like she needs to continue the work?
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dont forget her dad was president during our proudest era,a time when richmond both on and off field was feared and respected
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Tell you what the problem is at Punt Road.
These players live a ""funny life "' when not at the club. Way too much spare time on there hands.
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dont forget her dad was president during our proudest era,a time when richmond both on and off field was feared and respected
And don't forget that when he left we were broke and about to shut the doors because of the stupid "tit for tat" war that he undertook against Collingwood. Actually the mess he left behind financial was on par if not worse than what we've faced over the last decade
I acknowledge he was there during the good times and he deserve credit for that but and this is a big but the mess he left behind almost cost us our club - that's how serious the financial disaster he left behind was.... and I've never heard him once admit he stuffed up
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that hag really rubs me the wrong way
ban her although admittedly it wont make a difference as all the cows work is made up opinion trash with pie in the sky sources
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Who is the Mole at Richmond
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This is a bullsh1t thread. I am sick and tired ofpeople moralizing about 20 yo men. Get over yourselves. It's a pretty poo world when it looks like people actually enjoy teeing off at players for whatever reason. Love to see what you angels get up to at night behind closed doors.
l count my money ;D
Monky wins post of the month. Another in depth analysis of our situation from monky right here ;D
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Caro on 3aw just before 7pm
Caro: Disappointing as Ben had already been told off before about his drinking.
Healy: But Cousins wasn't the one with the alcohol issues on Saturday night. Are you just guessing he was drinking Caro or did someone tell you he was?
Caro: "I know that Ben was drinking"
ps. She also admitted she wasn't a Richmond member (not a member of any club).
Fair dinkum - if she was a bicycle she would never leave the shed :lol
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For what its worth, Caro is on the money.
Whats also of interest is what a few of the blokes get up to outside the club ::) :banghead :banghead
Maybe if they spent the extra time down the club trying to perfect there own games, we might be more competitive on the field.
I reckon Connors got off lightly actually.
And there other 3 had used up there "" credits"' you might find
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Tell you what the problem is at Punt Road.
These players live a ""funny life "' when not at the club. Way too much spare time on there hands.
What do you suggest they do?
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i suggest they keep away from the establishment near a river
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??? ??? ???
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Wp the mess you mention happened in the early 80s i think caros dad was long gone by then.In fact barry richardson was president for a while there and then someone else took over
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Wp the mess you mention happened in the early 80s i think caros dad was long gone by then.In fact barry richardson was president for a while there and then someone else took over
Ian Wilson weas president of the RFC from 1974 to mid 1985. Barry Richardson took over from Wilson in 1985 and stayed until 1986. We were a financial basket case in 1985 because we had no $$$$.
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Caro on 3aw just before 7pm
Caro: Disappointing as Ben had already been told off before about his drinking.
Healy: But Cousins wasn't the one with the alcohol issues on Saturday night. Are you just guessing he was drinking Caro or did someone tell you he was?
Caro: "I know that Ben was drinking"
ps. She also admitted she wasn't a Richmond member (not a member of any club).
Fair dinkum - if she was a bicycle she would never leave the shed :lol
If she was a bicycle no-one would want to ride her . Most would prefer to 'walk'
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Hardwick interviewed at training today......
* Decision (to suspend the four) was easy to make. We had to set strict standards at the start of the year with 14 new young players coming in. The boys involved went outside those standards so not a hard decision to make.
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Banned players let me down: Hardwick
richmondfc.com.au
By Ben Broad
11:12 AM Thu 15 April, 2010
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick is comfortable with the punishment handed out to the players involved in last weekend's late-night hotel fracas, believing it is crucial his players know the standards required to play at his club.
Earlier this week the Tigers announced suspensions to four players, including an eight-week ban to youngster Daniel Connors, after the quartet misbehaved following the side's loss to the Sydney Swans.
Ben Cousins, Dean Polo and Luke McGuane will all serve one-match bans this week stemming from the incident and while the latter three were not drunk, Hardwick said it was important the club made a stand.
"It wasn't a tough decision at all," Hardwick said before training on Thursday.
"The harsh thing is when you have 14 new blokes come in you need to set a pretty high standard for those players and we felt the four players went outside those … we felt we acted strongly but we felt we acted accordingly."
Cousins' actions and suspension has been in question after the Brownlow medallist was found to have given Connors - under the influence of alcohol at the time - a black eye after trying to subdue his younger teammate.
Hardwick said he wasn't disappointed by Cousins but felt he and his teammates had the opportunity to "nip it in the bud" before the night escalated to the point it did.
"Awareness is one of the things in our teammates that we look to strive for and we felt that they didn't react quick enough," he said.
"I think all four have let me down. Dan needs to take some responsibility for his actions.
"The other guys tried their best [but] I just don't think they handled the situation well enough though.
"As a group of coaches we have this thing called championship moves where if you can see a mate of yours in trouble you need to take appropriate action to stop that.
"That was the whole thing. If someone actually had the balls to stand up and say 'Listen Dan, enough's enough, go to bed' [then] none of that would have happened, so that was the disappointing thing from our point of view and that's why we suspended them accordingly."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/92346/default.aspx
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Hardwick said he wasn't disappointed by Cousins but felt he and his teammates had the opportunity to "nip it in the bud" before the night escalated to the point it did.
"Awareness is one of the things in our teammates that we look to strive for and we felt that they didn't react quick enough," he said.
"I think all four have let me down. Dan needs to take some responsibility for his actions.
"The other guys tried their best [but] I just don't think they handled the situation well enough though.
"As a group of coaches we have this thing called championship moves where if you can see a mate of yours in trouble you need to take appropriate action to stop that.
"That was the whole thing. If someone actually had the balls to stand up and say 'Listen Dan, enough's enough, go to bed' [then] none of that would have happened, so that was the disappointing thing from our point of view and that's why we suspended them accordingly."
Exactly what I have been saying about having your teammate's back. Good stuff to hear!
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Snippet from Hardwick in EOTT:
"It’s important to understand, especially when you bring 14 new players into the Club in one go, as we have, that the sort of behavior they displayed, is unacceptable. We have set a clear benchmark for our playing group – and those players went outside that benchmark at the weekend.
We believe the punishment is entirely appropriate. It will hurt us short-term, but we hope the long-term benefits will far outweigh that.
As far as we’re concerned, our family name, which is the Richmond Football Club, was tarnished – and that’s totally unacceptable. We’re all part of the one family here, and if that means we’ve got to strongly penalise any of our players, as a sacrifice, then so be it.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/ARCHIVEPAGES/SecureSignonTest/GreenbergsGrabs/tabid/15918/Default.aspx
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Snippet from Hardwick in EOTT:
As far as we’re concerned, our family name, which is the Richmond Football Club, was tarnished – and that’s totally unacceptable. ”
We get our arses tarnished every stuffin week.
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Snippet from Hardwick in EOTT:
As far as we’re concerned, our family name, which is the Richmond Football Club, was tarnished – and that’s totally unacceptable. ”
We get our behinds tarnished every effin week.
LOL. God grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change....Courage to change the things I can....and Wisdom to know the difference....
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Whats amazing about all this .
Doesnt the blame start at the top.??
Who is managing the playing group ?
Hardwick and Gale addressed the players before the start of the years ,and they do the opposite???
Communiction ?
Doesnt seem RFC , that all particpants "'rowing in the same direction "" does it ?
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Whats amazing about all this .
Doesnt the blame start at the top.??
Who is managing the playing group ?
Hardwick and Gale addressed the players before the start of the years ,and they do the opposite???
Communiction ?
Doesnt seem RFC , that all particpants "'rowing in the same direction "" does it ?
It's taking some of the bad eggs a few weeks to get out of the habits that were instilled during the Wallace era. Give it time.
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Hardwick and Gale addressed the players before the start of the years ,and they do the opposite???
Communiction ?
Doesnt seem RFC , that all particpants "'rowing in the same direction "" does it ?
Hence the perpetrators have been punished. Roberts suspension too shows that this administration is serious about player commitment.
It won't happen overnight..
Caro: "I know that Ben was drinking"
If true it's interesting considering the club said he 'wasn't intoxicated'. I guess by that they mean drunk.
Caro really has an axe to grind with Cuz. However sounds as if the week off was warranted.
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Cousins a leader, but a babysitter?
BARRY HALL
April 18, 2010
From the reports this week, you could be excused for thinking Ben Cousins was the one who was drunk and carrying on instead of playing the peacemaker. Photo: Getty Images
I NEVER thought I would be saying it, but this week I actually felt a bit sorry for Ben Cousins. Don't get me wrong, off-field incidents look bad for our game, and I would never condone them. I'm sure we would like to never see another headline about incidents in bars and nightclubs, but it's part of life.
I know only too well that if you've dug a hole for yourself in the past, when something else that's related happens, you're usually the first target people take aim at. Because of Cousins' past, the scrutiny on him off the field is massive.
I only know what I've read in the paper about the Richmond post-match incident in Sydney - a young bloke had too much to drink, got loud and out of hand, and some teammates, including Cousins, used a bit of force to try to settle the situation. I also know only too well from my own experiences at a previous club that what you hear through the media is quite often only a part of - and not the full - story.
But judging by the reports early in the week, you could be excused for thinking Cousins was the one who was drunk and carrying on, instead of the one trying to get a young guy, Daniel Connors, to pull his head in. In hindsight, sure he would have been better off having an early night, but you don't go somewhere expecting the night to end as it did.
I know the way it works - put Cousins in a headline, he sells papers. One of the interesting things I heard was that Cousins, ''as a leader of the club'', should have made sure the situation never got to the point it did. As an experienced player, a senior guy, you do have to set an example, but a babysitter?
''Leadership group'' is sport's latest buzz phrase. They are popping up everywhere, across all sports. At times it almost seems like, ''well other clubs have got one, we'd better get a leadership group''.
I was on the leadership group at the Swans. We took it seriously and we were taken seriously. I guess the significant thing was the respect you have of your teammates because they are the ones who voted you in.
The biggest thing about leadership groups is that they have to have the power. There's no point having such groups in place if they're just token and the club and the coaches are not going to act on what the group feels is best.
They can also go too far. There's a fine line between empowering your leadership group and the power going too far. If you can find somewhere in between, you will have a successful leadership group, and that will flow on to the team.
Then you have the question of how far that leadership group extends. Is it just on the field, or around the club, or when you're away, or throughout the whole season no matter where you are and who you are with? I know whenever something goes wrong now, the first thing that seems to be said is what has the leadership group done about it, or the leadership group should have stopped this happening.
We're all aware of our responsibilities off-field nowadays, and that's all fine as you've got to keep your group in check. But it can't just be up to the leadership group to keep blokes in check off the field.
We are football players and the leadership group should tailor things towards playing football and on-field leadership. I understand the off-field stuff is an issue, but it's up to the individual to know what's required of him and what's not acceptable. We are talking about grown young men, not kids with no idea of right and wrong. And if a problem does arise, any or all of his teammates can and should step in, not just someone because he is a leader.
I'm not in our leadership group at the Bulldogs, but when I was in Sydney, if I had to talk to a young bloke about something, I tried to put him in my situation now. I've been there and done whatever it was they had done. I used to stuff up all the time when I was young and stupid. They are learning, they are young, but they realise I was just like them, and I can see it more clearly now, and know what mistakes not to make. I found the fact I had been through it myself showed them I really did know what I was talking about.
There wasn't any leadership groups when I was younger. I was bit of a rebel back then so I probably wouldn't have taken much notice of them if there was.
I don't know the circumstances of what went on in Sydney last Saturday night, only what I have heard. Did the kid deserve eight weeks? I don't know, but I know sometimes pulling someone aside and talking him through it a bit, giving him a solid rap over the knuckles, can sometimes get through better than a long suspension.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/cousins-a-leader-but-a-babysitter-20100417-sll1.html
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Caro in today's Age...
At Geelong at the start of 2007, Steve Johnson was famously sent to AFL exile for his ongoing drunken and anti-social behaviour. Then chief executive of the AFL Players' Association, Brendon Gale, was horrified at the decision by the Cats, but was persuaded by their captain Tom Harley that only through an eight-week ban would the penny drop for Johnson and the club perform some effective surgery on its culture.
Now CEO at Richmond, Gale on Monday oversaw an eight-week suspension of errant but promising young Tiger Daniel Connors for his drunken behaviour in Sydney eight nights ago. Like Johnson, Connors has priors. It would be too much for Tiger fans to hope that Connors will one day wear a Norm Smith Medal around his neck, but Gale was convinced that this severe penalty could prove the player's only hope.
Cousins, whom Richmond has repeatedly defended and covered up for in recent months, repaid his special treatment by still being part of that ugly scene at dawn. Not once, but twice, did the older player punch the much drunker younger one and he - along with two others - have rightfully been suspended also.
Richmond would do well to organise a private chat between Steve Johnson and Daniel Connors. It is probably too late for Cousins, and Fevola teeters on the brink between oblivion and this one last chance in the sunshine.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-were-too-soft-on-fevola-20100417-slkc.html
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What the hell is her problem?
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Did the kid deserve eight weeks? I don't know, but I know sometimes pulling someone aside and talking him through it a bit, giving him a solid rap over the knuckles, can sometimes get through better than a long suspension.
I think has has already had his solid rap a few times Barry, hence the need for some more drastic action.
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Dan and Deano made the most of their kick up the backside today for Coburg. Hopefully the first sign it's finally got into Dan's head to start acting as a professional footballer.
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Dan and Deano made the most of their kick up the backside today for Coburg. Hopefully the first sign it's finally got into Dan's head to start acting as a professional footballer.
a million to one that happening
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Dan and Deano made the most of their kick up the backside today for Coburg. Hopefully the first sign it's finally got into Dan's head to start acting as a professional footballer.
a million to one that happening
they said same about steve johnson , ended up winning a norm smith :lol