One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 23, 2010, 02:01:29 AM
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From BF:
Was watching AFL teams on fox sports and Liam Pickering mentioned that next year all clubs will have their own reserves team playing in a reserves competition
The VFL stays the VFL, while this is a a separate competition
http://bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17510826&postcount=1
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From BF:
Was watching AFL teams on fox sports and Liam Pickering mentioned that next year all clubs will have their own reserves team playing in a reserves competition
The VFL stays the VFL, while this is a a separate competition
http://bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17510826&postcount=1
Liam wouldn't have a clue
He should stick to managing players
Oops I forgot he aint that great at that either :rollin :rollin
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if there was any substance to this at all, surely another media outlet would have picked up on it?
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if there was any substance to this at all, surely another media outlet would have picked up on it?
If they were going to make such a radical change then it would require a couple of years planning and preparation at the least. Would be very public knowledge a year or 2 before it happened. Probably a candidate for the worst rumour of 2010.
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This has been a ongoing decussion between clubs & AFL for sometime now
Its what all clubs want is thier own reserves side for those without them.
They also want larger lists & the salary cap raised
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You will find the Richmond will have there own reserves team. as soon as 2011.
This isnt a rumour.
The AFL are extremely keen to set up a reserves competition, which will include Adelaide and Port
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Sounds good. Would be great to have all of our players playing at the same standard. Would we still be affiliated with a VFL club, so that if we have excessive injuries we can bring a few over, or would the playing list size increase?
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very good news.
* i get sick of watching Richmond 2's in Essendon jumpers
* Coburg is a decent club but is a shyte part of Melbourne
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You will find the Richmond will have there own reserves team. as soon as 2011.
This isnt a rumour.
The AFL are extremely keen to set up a reserves competition, which will include Adelaide and Port
Would like to know how they intend to fund it
No doubt most AFL Vic based clubs would like their own "reserves" side but under the current format the majority could not and cannot afford it; hence, the VFL alignment situation
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New TV & media rights perhaps
Looking at $1 billion this time around, won't take much of that to form a reserves competition.
They say $500k per year per club, so that makes $37.5 million over 5 years out of $1 billion, under 4% of the total tv rights, not even including radio and internet.
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You will find the Richmond will have there own reserves team. as soon as 2011.
This isnt a rumour.
The AFL are extremely keen to set up a reserves competition, which will include Adelaide and Port
Would like to know how they intend to fund it
No doubt most AFL Vic based clubs would like their own "reserves" side but under the current format the majority could not and cannot afford it; hence, the VFL alignment situation
i thought it was more along the lines of -
if u have the VFL as a richmond, collingwood etc. ressies league then what happens to the traditional VFL clubs ie. your port melbournes and sandys
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i hope they do bring the AFL reserves teams back!
better opportunity for players to be looked at!
AFL reserves teams:
Adelaide, Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, Geelong, Hawthorn, Melbourne, North Melbourne, Port Adelaide, Richmond, St Kilda & Western.
12 team competition, top 6, 22 rounds, play everyone once! very good if you ask me!
Brisbane and Sydney should come in to make it 13-14 teams! Gold Coast, West Coast and Fremantle probably not now!
however, i am for every club having an AFL Reserves team running along side the Premiership Season!
all matches at all AFL venues or have alternitive grounds like; Visy Park, Craigieburn, etc.
makes should all matches are finished 90 minutes before the AFL match, so players can have a warm up before their match.
should change times to 2:30 (Afternoon), 8:00 (Friday Night), 1:30 (Early), 7:30 (Saturday Night), 6:00 (Twilight) for AFL matches.
AFL Reserves: 1:00pm, 3:30pm, 9am, 3pm, 1:30pm.
:)
:)
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inter state clubs can f off !!
dont want your adelaides in the VFL.
i do not think it is possibile anyway - adelaide players get split up amonst the SanFL anyway ..
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Essendon should be there instead of Brisbane. I'm pretty sure Sydney and Brisbane have their own thing along the eastern coast.
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inter state clubs can f off !!
dont want your adelaides in the VFL.
i do not think it is possibile anyway - adelaide players get split up amonst the SanFL anyway ..
Can tell you that will all change
Adelaide and Port will have teams in the AFL reserves.
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all matches at all AFL venues or have alternitive grounds like; Visy Park, Craigieburn, etc.
Absolutely no way the MCG or Etihad could be used for to host reserve games
With the amount of traffic per week on those grounds - the surfaces couldn't handle it
Each club would need an alternate venue
New TV & media rights perhaps
Looking at $1 billion this time around, won't take much of that to form a reserves competition.
They say $500k per year per club, so that makes $37.5 million over 5 years out of $1 billion, under 4% of the total tv rights, not even including radio and internet.
That may work from 2012 onwards but wouldn't apply in 2011 as the current TV deals finishes end of next season
So I still question how it will be funded. We have clubs who cannot turn a profit without AFL handouts so I don't see how they could afford to fund expanded lists and all the other overheads that owuld go with running a reserves comp.
Also, if the "reserves comp" is going to include interstate teams - then throw in the extra travel costs as well
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inter state clubs can f off !!
dont want your adelaides in the VFL.
i do not think it is possibile anyway - adelaide players get split up amonst the SanFL anyway ..
Stupid attitude, it's the AFL reserves, not the VFL
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That may work from 2012 onwards but wouldn't apply in 2011 as the current TV deals finishes end of next season
So I still question how it will be funded. We have clubs who cannot turn a profit without AFL handouts so I don't see how they could afford to fund expanded lists and all the other overheads that owuld go with running a reserves comp.
Also, if the "reserves comp" is going to include interstate teams - then throw in the extra travel costs as well
The AFL covered the salary of the rookies to ensure all clubs had a full compliment of rookies to equalise the competition
Fair chance the AFL could cover the costs for the first year, they make enough to share some more of the wealth, it's not really a handout when all clubs get one.
Would be one of the best investments into development the AFL could make IMO
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what happens to the like of Port Melbourne that is 100 year old clubs with many loyal fans?
they get shate on?
dropped to divison 2?
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New TV & media rights perhaps
Looking at $1 billion this time around, won't take much of that to form a reserves competition.
They say $500k per year per club, so that makes $37.5 million over 5 years out of $1 billion, under 4% of the total tv rights, not even including radio and internet.
Plus an extra 12 players (minimum) on each list - that would be roughly $2m per club.
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very good news.
* i get sick of watching Richmond 2's in Essendon jumpers
* Coburg is a decent club but is a shyte part of Melbourne
Coburg are Red & Blue
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they are indeed but it looks alot more like Essendon and not like Richmond.
Coburg is closer to the north than it is the Yarra also ...
Richmond need there own 2's or a VFL club in the south / east ..
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what happens to the like of Port Melbourne that is 100 year old clubs with many loyal fans?
they get shate on?
dropped to divison 2?
Who said the VFL had to cease to exist?
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New TV & media rights perhaps
Looking at $1 billion this time around, won't take much of that to form a reserves competition.
They say $500k per year per club, so that makes $37.5 million over 5 years out of $1 billion, under 4% of the total tv rights, not even including radio and internet.
Plus an extra 12 players (minimum) on each list - that would be roughly $2m per club.
Not necessarily, Collingwood & Geelong's VFL teams have players to fill spots when needed.
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New TV & media rights perhaps
Looking at $1 billion this time around, won't take much of that to form a reserves competition.
They say $500k per year per club, so that makes $37.5 million over 5 years out of $1 billion, under 4% of the total tv rights, not even including radio and internet.
Plus an extra 12 players (minimum) on each list - that would be roughly $2m per club.
Not necessarily, Collingwood & Geelong's VFL teams have players to fill spots when needed.
Yep, but in any formalised AFL controlled competition, the lists would have to be increased to ~60 (a minimum is my guess) and every single player on that list would be subject to the CBA - the Players Association would not accept anything less and frankly, the AFL would not accept the risk to the image of its brand, of a club 'running out' of players. Having emergency players to fill spots when needed would not even be considered.
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I hope the home ground is not Cragieburn :(
what happens to the like of Port Melbourne that is 100 year old clubs with many loyal fans?
they get shate on?
dropped to divison 2?
Who said the VFL had to cease to exist?
So Richmond will be playing against Coburg next season?
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what happens to the like of Port Melbourne that is 100 year old clubs with many loyal fans?
they get shate on?
dropped to divison 2?
Who said the VFL had to cease to exist?
So Richmond will be playing against Coburg next season?
What on earth are you on about?
There could be an AFL Reserves competition and a VFL competition
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I hope the home ground is not Cragieburn :(
what happens to the like of Port Melbourne that is 100 year old clubs with many loyal fans?
they get shate on?
dropped to divison 2?
Who said the VFL had to cease to exist?
So Richmond will be playing against Coburg next season?
No. Richmond reserves would play Port or Adelaide or Carlton reserves.
It will be an AFL reserves
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Some info on the salary cap in the current VFL ....
Given the unique nature of the VFL, with its mix of aligned, partly aligned, stand alone and AFL clubs, salary cap levels vary markedly.
Each is clearly defined: independent VFL clubs have a $350,000 salary cap; partially aligned clubs $280,000; aligned clubs $215,000 and AFL clubs $155,000.
Clubs are allowed extra financial room if it has a playing coach or playing assistant coach while Bendigo Bombers, North Ballarat, and Frankston also receive an approved travelling allowance up to $25,000.
Clubs in aligned or partially aligned relationships whose AFL partner endure a horrific run of injuries and therefore are forced to play more VFL players can apply for special consideration under the salary cap.
Pleasingly, AFL Victoria has not encountered any problems with salary cap issues. Simply, clubs play its players what they can afford.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-118-0-0-0&sID=60264&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=11956980§ionID=60264
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they are indeed but it looks alot more like Essendon and not like Richmond.
Coburg is closer to the north than it is the Yarra also ...
Richmond need there own 2's or a VFL club in the south / east ..
given our recent investment in craigieburn, Im not sure that would be an option ::)