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Title: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 25, 2010, 11:02:51 PM
Well fire away!
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: jezza on April 25, 2010, 11:03:50 PM
Great thread. Should really help us.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 25, 2010, 11:05:20 PM
Great thread. Should really help us.
I am sorry Jezza! I try to be as positive as i can but after watching that Pavlich goal go through untouched....
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Rodgerramjet on April 25, 2010, 11:11:31 PM
The side is very young, they will get better. I've seen worse from more senior players that should have been better.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 25, 2010, 11:17:14 PM
Its nearly the worst.
Compare Freos first gamer Fythe compared to ours,
We are dreaming
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: the_boy_jake on April 25, 2010, 11:20:15 PM
This is the worst footy side I have ever seen in a sense relative to the rest of the competition. Worse than what I remember of Fitzroy '96. Our team would beat that team only because footy has moved on and become quicker and the athletes fitter, but in a relative sense we are worse.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 25, 2010, 11:21:10 PM
Its nearly the worst.
Compare Freos first gamer Fythe compared to ours,
We are dreaming
Was thinking the same! The oppositions first gamers seem to burn against us!
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 25, 2010, 11:25:21 PM
and you know why ? Because alot of our young players aint up to it.
We fall in love with them and live in hope.
Fythe looks like a gun in his first game, cant remember that I have ever said the same about any current Richmond player, besides Cotchin
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Ramps on April 25, 2010, 11:26:32 PM
and you know why ? Because alot of our young players aint up to it.
We fall in love with them and live in hope.
Fythe looks like a gun in his first game, cant remember that I have ever said the same about any current Richmond player, besides Cotchin

even cotchin is struggling  :banghead
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: peggles on April 25, 2010, 11:30:07 PM
no, last year's team was worse cos we were still playing old hacks who's useless.  at least we're now playing kids
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 25, 2010, 11:36:04 PM
Ramps, lets be fair dinkum here.
Our young players are clearly not up to it.
Freo produces a first gamer tonight that took contested marks and looks like he can play.
Barlow on his first year is miles better than most of our players already.
We play guys and live in hope that they will improve.
I was impressed with Nahas and Collins efforts tonight, and if they can put SEVERAL weeks of those efforts together, they will be okay.
Nason is struggling
Vickery, WONT MAKE IT, is too femine for my liking
Dea- how on earth does he get a game in front of Polo is beyond ANY BELIEF
Tambling, dont know what to do with him.
Now Jack Reiwoldt, Brian Taylor was correct with his views on him at half time.
He thinks he knows everything Jack, he knows LITTLE.
Maybe he should spend more time playing Roulette at Crown with his best mate Connors ;)
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 25, 2010, 11:38:33 PM
Must admit, Polo should be in!
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Siberian on April 26, 2010, 12:35:46 AM
worst forward line and ruck division by a mile  thats what kills us
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Tigermonk on April 26, 2010, 12:38:19 AM
and you know why ? Because alot of our young players aint up to it.
We fall in love with them and live in hope.
Fythe looks like a gun in his first game, cant remember that I have ever said the same about any current Richmond player, besides Cotchin

Martin  ;D
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Siberian on April 26, 2010, 12:48:34 AM
Polo had a great FIRST game
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Ox on April 26, 2010, 12:55:17 AM
Great thread. Should really help us.

Yeh,because all the clever ideas by positive posters are reviewed by the clubs admin in an effort to improve things.
Fool.

Get a grip - Yes! it is the Worst team in our history,rather than talking s h it
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Ox on April 26, 2010, 12:57:18 AM
worst forward line and ruck division by a mile  thats what kills us

u forgot the backline
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Siberian on April 26, 2010, 01:00:54 AM
Anthony Banik and Brian Leys? I'll take Will Kel and Luke thanks! with Newman Farmer and Lids no need to rookie list Stephan Ryan yet!
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Ox on April 26, 2010, 01:06:48 AM
Anthony Banik and Brian Leys? I'll take Will Kel and Luke thanks! with Newman Farmer and Lids no need to rookie list Stephan Ryan yet!

Wats the difference?
poo is poo no matter if it's a different color.
They are poo like Leys and Banik.
Farmer is a poo Farmer.
poo
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Siberian on April 26, 2010, 01:13:26 AM
Turner looked liked the worst footballer ever when Dunstall kicked 17 on him, yet he soon held him goalless not long after, I think our backline is not the problem with reasonable assistance they would flourish, but OK Farmer is no champion
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Ox on April 26, 2010, 01:20:24 AM
Imagine how things would run with

A Real full back,not 3 midsize guys trying to double and triple team the opps LARGE KEY FORWARDS.
They're so fu kcin stupid they cant work out how to kick the ball into play without turning it over or kicking to 2/3 on one contests.
They can't even work out that the captain is the biggest dud down there.
Basically it's the blind leading the wacko blind.

A real CHB.
A real CHF
A real FF

No way our back line is competent.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Ox on April 26, 2010, 01:22:26 AM
re scot turner - that was the kind of guy he is.
He had the tenacity to right his wrong.
The idiots we have have so much hair product on their head its a wonder they don't get raped by a bus of rampant homosexuals on the way home.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: mat073 on April 26, 2010, 02:06:35 AM
The record at Richmond for consecutive losses is 15.(04/05)

This current Richmond team is up to 9.

I have no idea where our next win is comming from.

Still ,Look whats happening at Freo & Melbourne.....After round 20 last year they were 15th & 16th on the ladder.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Ramps on April 26, 2010, 06:46:18 AM
Dea is no where near it unfortunately ... some of our recruiting is plainly unbelievable.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 26, 2010, 06:48:05 AM
Playing Dea is like playing 5 players in D50 and being one short,
He has no idea. :banghead
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Chuck17 on April 26, 2010, 07:27:12 AM
Wait until next year when we turn over another 10 and for the main replace them with draftees from a compromised draft.

Toughen up or get off the ship
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 26, 2010, 07:32:03 AM
Wait until next year when we turn over another 10 and for the main replace them with draftees from a compromised draft.

Toughen up or get off the ship

Its a pity we cant get rid of at least 8 or the 14 we picked up this year you mean :banghead
We are stuck with them for 2 years, :banghead
Have a look at the other clubs first year players, they take there opportunity like there playing there last game.
Didnt you watch the Freo firstgamer in Fythe fly over packs and take contested grabs. Didnt you see Barlow for Freo.
Didnt you see Roughhead for the Dogs on Friday night, he has played one game and is miles ahead of Vickery :banghead
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: RollsRoyce on April 26, 2010, 07:50:34 AM
I can remember worse defences than our current one. Try some of these names on for size: Manton, Laffy, Czerkaski. Then there was that big lumbering crew-cutted dud we had in the '80's, Graham Robertson. Remember him? 
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: julzqld on April 26, 2010, 07:59:49 AM
Yes forward line the worst.  Riewoldt needs to be dropped.  Agree with BT comments at half time.  Riewoldt wasn't even paying attention to what the assistant coach was saying.  Needs a good kick up the bum.  Why wasn't Morton playing?
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Chuck17 on April 26, 2010, 08:04:38 AM
The day I listen to fwits like BT will be the same day I start listening to Jackstar
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 26, 2010, 08:11:05 AM
The day I listen to fwits like BT will be the same day I start listening to Jackstar

BT is very knowledgable. What he said last night was spot on.
Gerard Healey like wise
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: julzqld on April 26, 2010, 08:19:11 AM
He was right on the money about Riewoldt.  The guy was totally disinterested in what the assistant coach had to say.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Mr Magic on April 26, 2010, 08:29:05 AM
Not the worst but certainly the weakest.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 26, 2010, 08:50:24 AM
Polo had a great FIRST game

where he kicked how many goals?????
Then what did we do? ooh that's right throw him in defence
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 26, 2010, 10:50:26 AM
Not the worst but certainly the weakest.

Agree on that and as a result statistically this season we will be on par or worse than Fitzroy of 95-96.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: WA Tiger on April 26, 2010, 10:59:08 AM
The day I listen to fwits like BT will be the same day I start listening to Jackstar

BT is very knowledgable. What he said last night was spot on.
Gerard Healey like wise

Crap Jack, I have watched numerous games on Fox this year including every Richmond game and he hates us end of story. Last night in particular he wasn't even getting excited when we were kicking goals but gee the tone in his voice changed when the Dorkers starting winning. It is not the first time he has done it this year either. You tell me to go and watch more games, perhaps you sould watch more Fox and actually listen to the one eyed commentators, including Healy. The best one last night was Jacko!!!
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: WA Tiger on April 26, 2010, 11:01:56 AM
BTW people NO we are not the worst, I am not sure how young some of you are but I can tell tell you that when G Ablett senior was playing we were dead set poo. I can remember sitting at Kardinia Park watching G Ablett tear us apart and we had a very experienced side.

We are not crap we are young and developing!!!!
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: eliminator on April 26, 2010, 01:26:33 PM
 This side reminds me of the sides in 1989 and 1993. Probably more 1989. It has some promising youngsters but a long way to go
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: torch on April 26, 2010, 01:59:09 PM
"No" - this isn't the worse Richmond team i can remember.

the 2004 team during the second half of the year was "the worse" Richmond team.

 >:(
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: mightytiges on April 29, 2010, 08:45:12 PM
Its nearly the worst.
Compare Freos first gamer Fythe compared to ours,
We are dreaming
Fyfe was pick 20 in last year's draft. So unless Jack you want us to hand back Martin (#3) or a KPP in Griffiths (#19) then we had no chance of getting Fyfe with our latter picks. If you want to be critical then selecting a jockey-sized kid like Hicks with our first rookie pick ahead of Barlow who is just 22 years old can be rightly questioned.


Btw Freo aren't a young side despite what the media say. Just look at the side that played us. They have a substantial senior core. Practically their spine - FB, CHB, Ruck and FF - are 27 years or older FFS.

29 Tarrant (224), Hayden (107)
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28 Pavlich (218 ), McPharlin (156), Haselby (193)
27 McPhee (172), Sandilands (140)
26 Crowley (83)
25 Johnson (89), Duffield (50)
24 Mundy (113)
23 Broughton (20)
-----------------------------
22 Ballantyne (13), Barlow (5), Silvagni# (5)
21 Mayne (27), Van Berlo# (4)
20 De Boer# (20)
19 Hill (27), Pearce# (10)
18 Fyfe (1), Morabito (5)


And here's us last week by comparison without a senior core. Two 30 year olds who will retire and just 4 others above 23 y.o.

31: Cousins (256), Simmonds (195)
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28: Tuck (113)
27: Newman (158)
26: Moore (70)
25: -
24: Foley (85)
23: McGuane (58), Tambling (100)
------------------------------
22: Deledio (111), Nahas (22)
21: Collins (12), Edwards (52), Riewoldt (51)
20: Rance (18), Farmer (7), Nason (5)
19: Cotchin (30), Vickery (14), Astbury (2)
18: Martin (5), Dea (2), Taylor (2)
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Danog on April 29, 2010, 09:12:19 PM
The day I listen to fwits like BT will be the same day I start listening to Jackstar

BT is very knowledgable. What he said last night was spot on.
Gerard Healey like wise
He didn't know the names of half of our players...
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 29, 2010, 09:33:19 PM
The day I listen to fwits like BT will be the same day I start listening to Jackstar

BT is very knowledgable. What he said last night was spot on.
Gerard Healey like wise
He didn't know the names of half of our players...

1989 had a few ageing premiership stars in Roach and Lee who were well passed it and Weightman who was still a gun and still getting selected to play for the Vics in State of Origin. The rest of the squad were youngsters as we were virtually dead broke and we could not afford anything else. As a result we had the worst side on the park back then. Heck our no 1 pick in Lounder was more at home leaning on goalposts than leading for marks.

As i have said statistically we are worse now as we will be lucky to win 2 or 3 games this year but we are a better side. If you delve through the team lists of the Bartlett era you will find more nobodies who amounted to nothing compared to the current crop who still have heaps of improvement left.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: mightytiges on April 29, 2010, 11:09:39 PM
The day I listen to fwits like BT will be the same day I start listening to Jackstar

BT is very knowledgable. What he said last night was spot on.
Gerard Healey like wise
He didn't know the names of half of our players...

1989 had a few ageing premiership stars in Roach and Lee who were well passed it and Weightman who was still a gun and still getting selected to play for the Vics in State of Origin. The rest of the squad were youngsters as we were virtually dead broke and we could not afford anything else. As a result we had the worst side on the park back then. Heck our no 1 pick in Lounder was more at home leaning on goalposts than leading for marks.

As i have said statistically we are worse now as we will be lucky to win 2 or 3 games this year but we are a better side. If you delve through the team lists of the Bartlett era you will find more nobodies who amounted to nothing compared to the current crop who still have heaps of improvement left.
http://www.stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/1989.html#14
 :P

Only Free and Knighter made it till 95. Lambert, Barry Young, Trent Nichols and Peter Wilson were at other clubs. Geez you would have to reckon we're better off than that now.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Ox on May 01, 2010, 08:38:27 PM
After  more thought on the topic,we're still the worst team of all time.
Watch ,how tomorrow they haplessly carve themselves to bits while
leading us to believe there really is no game plan.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: WA Tiger on May 01, 2010, 09:04:56 PM
After  more thought on the topic,we're still the worst team of all time.


No we are not.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: the claw on May 01, 2010, 09:55:40 PM
and you know why ? Because alot of our young players aint up to it.
We fall in love with them and live in hope.
Fythe looks like a gun in his first game, cant remember that I have ever said the same about any current Richmond player, besides Cotchin
sheesh thats harsh and im considered a real negative type.

the key to my logic when looking at young players coming into sides is the structures  experience and leadership around them.

fyfe can play well for freo because right next to him is pavlich.  they have size strength  and height right thru the side. with a decent sprinkling of experience and know how. in the main this has always been at freo. pavlich sandilands mcpharlin grover johnson you can add tarrant who has turned himself into a very good fb in recent yrs.all have been aropund awhile and are something structurally to build around. simply put most people think fremantle have grossly underachieved in recent yrs because of they have had such good  structure.

go back to their 07 list at the end of that yr it comprised of bell both carrs mcmanus farmer peake and others who made up their midfield and run and carry it was poo.  but pav and the mentioned players were there.
imo harvey has been able to turn them around so quickly because unlike us hes not having to build them structurally or from the ground up almost.

imo fremantles problem is now achieving something in a short space of time because their structure is starting to age. weather they have enough quality throughout their side is also a problem. they have a heavy reliance on that structure or spine atm.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Owl on May 01, 2010, 10:17:02 PM
Good post claw, think you summed up Freo pretty well there.
Ironically they could end up like us with a big collapse of their experience all going at once and having nothing to show for it, so they are going to have to make hay now.  They look capable though.
Personally, this is not the worst Richmond team I can remember, this team has promise and talent in spades compared to the bleak end of the eighties and start of the nineties.  Seeing empty grounds at Richmond games was one of the most horrific things I have ever seen our club go through, and I hope it never happens again.  Good times or bad, we have to ride the bumps and never let that poo happen again.
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: Ox on May 02, 2010, 01:35:42 PM
Going well !
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: jackstar is back again on May 02, 2010, 05:02:01 PM
YES, worst i have seen in 40 years
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: julzqld on May 09, 2010, 07:24:40 PM
Is this the worse we've had or for a long time?  Have we ever had a winless season?
Title: Re: Is this the worse Richmond team you can remember?
Post by: tiger till i die on May 09, 2010, 07:38:20 PM
Is this the worse we've had or for a long time?  Have we ever had a winless season?

yes this one