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Tigers planning to be active trade week players
By Steve Lavell
7:23 PM Wed 05 May, 2010
RICHMOND has revealed its plans to target players from opposition clubs as it strengthens its developing list beyond 2010.
In a report on richmondfc.com.au, general manager of football Craig Cameron wrote that the Tigers' trade-week intentions had been encouraged by the introduction of the Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney franchises.
Former Port Adelaide national recruiting manager Blair Hartley crossed to Punt Road in the off-season, and Cameron confirmed Hartley, as opposition and list analyst, would be heavily involved in luring senior players.
However, parting with the club's first draft pick was unlikely at this stage.
"We need to search for players outside the traditional pathways," Cameron said.
"If we have an early selection in the draft, then that will come via the traditional pathways (i.e. TAC Cup), but we will broaden our recruiting horizons in a bid to find the necessary talent to bolster our playing list and, with Blair now on board, we anticipate being quite active in the trade market.
"We're one of the first AFL clubs to have a fully-resourced trading division in our overall recruiting structure, so we are confident we'll be capably equipped to make smart decisions with regards to trades."
Cameron also said that despite Gold Coast's prominence in this year's NAB AFL Draft, Richmond would not be disadvantaged.
Gold Coast will have nine of the first 15 selections while 2010's wooden spooner will receive pick No.4.
Richmond is currently on the bottom of the AFL ladder and, along with Adelaide, is yet to win a game this season.
"A lot has been made about ... how it's not a good time to be 'bottoming out', with Gold Coast having so many early picks," Cameron said. "Well, I can assure you there will still be talented players available at our draft selections.
"The whole issue of bottoming out is an interesting one, too, because it's difficult to pinpoint the actual time when you bottom out.
"We brought 14 new players into the club late last year, and have drafted quite a few other young players over the past two or three years ... so I don't agree that we're going to be as disadvantaged as what many others in the football world would have you believe.
"We have a substantial group of young players on our list and we'll add to that at the end of the year, as well as find some more experienced, bigger-bodied players, who can help us out as well."
Meanwhile, Cameron added that media criticism of emerging forward Jack Riewoldt had been unfair, and that the 21-year-old "battles his heart out each week for us".
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/93714/default.aspx
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I think we should have been more active this year too, to the tune of at least 2-3 experienced players and NO NOT AT THE COST OF EARLY DRAFT PICKS!!!!
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However, parting with the club's first draft pick was unlikely at this stage.
Unlikely, Unfreakinglikely alright, completely off limits IMO.
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However, parting with the club's first draft pick was unlikely at this stage.
Unlikely, Unfreakinglikely alright, completely off limits IMO.
:) :thumbsup Yep!
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I wonder who on earth is running Punt Rd.
We should of picked up Bradshaw this year
Although in the past we pick up Kingsley and Hudson
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I wonder who on earth is running Punt Rd.
We should of picked up Brayshaw this year
Although in the past we pick up Kingsley and Hudson
The guy from the Footy Show?
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I wrote in the Boak thread asking how we afford these players.
I think our best hope is that GC17 can't lure any huge name players and will be happy to trade picks 7 onwards for experienced bodies. We might be able to get an early pick for a Morton (I'm happy to trade this guy) or maybe Tambling could get us something early-ish.
On-trade one of these picks for Boak, i'd be happy.
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I wonder who on earth is running Punt Rd.
We should of picked up Brayshaw this year
Although in the past we pick up Kingsley and Hudson
I tell you if we did, jack r would be a different than what we are seeing right now
he is surrounded by midgets on that forward line.
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We should of picked up Bradshaw this year
Bradshaw would have retired had we read his name out.
He made it perfectly clear who he wanted to play for and was not worried about retiring from the game if he didn't make his way to Sydney.
Would have been another shemozzle you could have whinged about of course though in a "why did we draft bradshaw" thread. ::) :wallywink
Not to mention it would have been another short term decision to please the supporters who are too braindead to identify that short-term shortcuts have been the death of this club for the past 30 years. Until we develop a base and are contenders these players will continue to pass us by.
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We should of picked up Bradshaw this year
Bradshaw would have retired had we read his name out.
He made it perfectly clear who he wanted to play for and was not worried about retiring from the game if he didn't make his way to Sydney.
Would have been another shemozzle you could have whinged about of course though in a "why did we draft bradshaw" thread. ::) :wallywink
Not to mention it would have been another short term decision to please the supporters who are too braindead to identify that short-term shortcuts have been the death of this club for the past 30 years. Until we develop a base and are contenders these players will continue to pass us by.
I didn't think Jack was serious, but maybe he was, dumbest comment of the year from Jackster right here
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We should of picked up Bradshaw this year
Bradshaw would have retired had we read his name out.
He made it perfectly clear who he wanted to play for and was not worried about retiring from the game if he didn't make his way to Sydney.
Would have been another shemozzle you could have whinged about of course though in a "why did we draft bradshaw" thread. ::) :wallywink
Not to mention it would have been another short term decision to please the supporters who are too braindead to identify that short-term shortcuts have been the death of this club for the past 30 years. Until we develop a base and are contenders these players will continue to pass us by.
I didn't think Jack was serious, but maybe he was, dumbest comment of the year from Jackster right here
I am deadly serious, we have NO Leadership on the field, the guy is GUN !
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Can also tell you NUFFERS that Freo have been looking at each clubs playing lists for the past 4 years..
Its amazing the Richmond now say they are going to do it, its big news in the media :banghead
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We should of picked up Bradshaw this year
Bradshaw would have retired had we read his name out.
He made it perfectly clear who he wanted to play for and was not worried about retiring from the game if he didn't make his way to Sydney.
Would have been another shemozzle you could have whinged about of course though in a "why did we draft bradshaw" thread. ::) :wallywink
Not to mention it would have been another short term decision to please the supporters who are too braindead to identify that short-term shortcuts have been the death of this club for the past 30 years. Until we develop a base and are contenders these players will continue to pass us by.
I didn't think Jack was serious, but maybe he was, dumbest comment of the year from Jackster right here
I am deadly serious, we have NO Leadership on the field, the guy is GUN !
Well it would be no use sticking him in the forward line, could he play CHB or FB?
Also what would it have cost us to recruit him do you think, keeping in mind that he has probably only two years left with a side of players where most aren't up to AFL standard.
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Can also tell you NUFFERS that Freo have been looking at each clubs playing lists for the past 4 years..
Its amazing the Richmond now say they are going to do it, its big news in the media :banghead
Thanks for that amazingly insightful comment
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We should of picked up Bradshaw this year
Bradshaw would have retired had we read his name out.
He made it perfectly clear who he wanted to play for and was not worried about retiring from the game if he didn't make his way to Sydney.
Would have been another shemozzle you could have whinged about of course though in a "why did we draft bradshaw" thread. ::) :wallywink
Not to mention it would have been another short term decision to please the supporters who are too braindead to identify that short-term shortcuts have been the death of this club for the past 30 years. Until we develop a base and are contenders these players will continue to pass us by.
I didn't think Jack was serious, but maybe he was, dumbest comment of the year from Jackster right here
I am deadly serious, we have NO Leadership on the field, the guy is GUN !
Also what would it have cost us to recruit him do you think, keeping in mind that he has probably only two years left with a side of players where most aren't up to AFL standard.
Put himself into the pre-season draft with the contract requirements of 1.5 million over 3 years.
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Can also tell you NUFFERS that Freo have been looking at each clubs playing lists for the past 4 years..
Its amazing the Richmond now say they are going to do it, its big news in the media :banghead
Is that really necessary?
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We should of picked up Bradshaw this year
Bradshaw would have retired had we read his name out.
He made it perfectly clear who he wanted to play for and was not worried about retiring from the game if he didn't make his way to Sydney.
Would have been another shemozzle you could have whinged about of course though in a "why did we draft bradshaw" thread. ::) :wallywink
Not to mention it would have been another short term decision to please the supporters who are too braindead to identify that short-term shortcuts have been the death of this club for the past 30 years. Until we develop a base and are contenders these players will continue to pass us by.
I didn't think Jack was serious, but maybe he was, dumbest comment of the year from Jackster right here
I am deadly serious, we have NO Leadership on the field, the guy is GUN !
Also what would it have cost us to recruit him do you think, keeping in mind that he has probably only two years left with a side of players where most aren't up to AFL standard.
Put himself into the pre-season draft with the contract requirements of 1.5 million over 3 years.
To make a further point would you prefer $200k going to a kid over 3 years who could be a player of the future and 1.3 million going into the football department for development spending, or would you prefer Daniel Bradshaw who could possibly inject an extra two or three goals a game leading us to be beaten by only beaten by Geelong by 80 points and still being on a 0-6 start. :whistle
I know my choice.
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Q:How old is Bradshaw again
A: Older than Kingsley when we recruited him - ;)
No good getting players at the end of their careers -short term fixes have proven to be a failure at Tigerland - we are just going to have to suck up the pain for at least a few years IMHO
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Bradshaw is a better footballer than kingsley
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Bradshaw is a better footballer than kingsley
No doubt. But would we not still be 0-6????
Even if we had have stolen a win, having Bradshaw still doesn't make us a compitive team, and as another Bentleigh account around the traps once said, "12th = nowhere."
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Q:How old is Bradshaw again
A: Older than Kingsley when we recruited him - ;)
No good getting players at the end of their careers -short term fixes have proven to be a failure at Tigerland - we are just going to have to suck up the pain for at least a few years IMHO
One is a GUN.
the other no ablilty
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And both have a football life span of one to two years - sorry dont belive in majic puddings since we got Stewert and Sproue.
We just have to build a strong foundation.
No Boak another story if we could get him at the right price - he is the right age, skills and playing style - Do we get the first pick in the national draft ??
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we better not touch our early draft picks.
but totally agree we need some senior big bodys in our structure.
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One is a GUN.
the other no ablilty
You didn't finish your sentence Jack.
"One is a GUN in a good side but is quite invisible in an average side".
There's a big difference when you are paying big money for that player.
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Tigs just need to stfu up six months out from the trade week period and not let anybody know their intentions or motives just let their actions do the talking. I don't like this. Just do it and don't tell anybody. It gains nothing.
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WHY WOULD PLAYERS WANT TO COME TO THE MOST UNSUCCESSFUL TEAM IN THE AFL?????
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WHY WOULD PLAYERS WANT TO COME TO THE MOST UNSUCCESSFUL TEAM IN THE AFL?????
$$$$$$$$$$ being freed up in the salary cap.
Money makes the world go round.
Don't know yet if it that translates into the hype and reality of the promised land come free agency.
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WHY WOULD PLAYERS WANT TO COME TO THE MOST UNSUCCESSFUL TEAM IN THE AFL?????
$$$$$$$$$$ being freed up in the salary cap.
Money makes the world go round.
Don't know yet if it that translates into the hype and reality of the promised land come free agency.
we have money?
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WHY WOULD PLAYERS WANT TO COME TO THE MOST UNSUCCESSFUL TEAM IN THE AFL?????
$$$$$$$$$$ being freed up in the salary cap.
Money makes the world go round.
Don't know yet if it that translates into the hype and reality of the promised land come free agency.
we have money?
Retirements of Richo Bowden Johnson Brown etc have freed up alot of money in the salary cap. Most first year players are on very little and with more players retiring or getting delisted it will free up more money.
Free agency will ensure a club with spare money can entice a big name ready made player.
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Is this talk about being active during trade week just a friendly reminder to some players that they are playing for their careers at RFC this season?
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Is this talk about being active during trade week just a friendly reminder to some players that they are playing for their careers at RFC this season?
95% of our players are untradeable
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Is this talk about being active during trade week just a friendly reminder to some players that they are playing for their careers at RFC this season?
95% of our players are untradeable
Another fabricated flog comment Jack, there are more than 2 players other clubs would take in a heartbeat.....
Just dont bother posting if all you can post is negative.
I am sick and tired of reading your negative crap, typically no response about our new sponsor!!
I dont think anyone on here would have expected a comment from you as it was some positive news coming out of Punt Road which you dont like!!!
Maybe witht he extra sponsor money they might be able to pay you your 2K........
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Is this talk about being active during trade week just a friendly reminder to some players that they are playing for their careers at RFC this season?
95% of our players are untradeable
I'm not even talking about if they are tradeable or not Jack. where did you pull that from?
What I'm saying is that it could just be a reminder to some of the older players who have been around for a while staying in their comfort zone, that list spots will freed up at the end of the year. Basically they are on notice.
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Is this talk about being active during trade week just a friendly reminder to some players that they are playing for their careers at RFC this season?
95% of our players are untradeable
Another fabricated flog comment Jack, there are more than 2 players other clubs would take in a heartbeat.....
Just dont bother posting if all you can post is negative.
I am sick and tired of reading your negative crap, typically no response about our new sponsor!!
I dont think anyone on here would have expected a comment from you as it was some positive news coming out of Punt Road which you dont like!!!
Maybe witht he extra sponsor money they might be able to pay you your 2K........
Sorry 90% (3-4 players)
And by the way , I got paid !
And more than 2K
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Is this talk about being active during trade week just a friendly reminder to some players that they are playing for their careers at RFC this season?
95% of our players are untradeable
Another fabricated flog comment Jack, there are more than 2 players other clubs would take in a heartbeat.....
Just dont bother posting if all you can post is negative.
I am sick and tired of reading your negative crap, typically no response about our new sponsor!!
I dont think anyone on here would have expected a comment from you as it was some positive news coming out of Punt Road which you dont like!!!
Maybe witht he extra sponsor money they might be able to pay you your 2K........
New sponsor ?? What new sponsor ?
Would have to be a betting agency ?
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Is this talk about being active during trade week just a friendly reminder to some players that they are playing for their careers at RFC this season?
95% of our players are untradeable
Another fabricated flog comment Jack, there are more than 2 players other clubs would take in a heartbeat.....
Just dont bother posting if all you can post is negative.
I am sick and tired of reading your negative crap, typically no response about our new sponsor!!
I dont think anyone on here would have expected a comment from you as it was some positive news coming out of Punt Road which you dont like!!!
Maybe witht he extra sponsor money they might be able to pay you your 2K........
New sponsor ?? What new sponsor ?
Would have to be a betting agency ?
They signed two new sponsors in the past few weeks, an IT firm and a power company
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Tigers planning to be active trade week players
By Steve Lavell
7:23 PM Wed 05 May, 2010
RICHMOND has revealed its plans to target players from opposition clubs as it strengthens its developing list beyond 2010.
In a report on richmondfc.com.au, general manager of football Craig Cameron wrote that the Tigers' trade-week intentions had been encouraged by the introduction of the Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney franchises.
Former Port Adelaide national recruiting manager Blair Hartley crossed to Punt Road in the off-season, and Cameron confirmed Hartley, as opposition and list analyst, would be heavily involved in luring senior players.
However, parting with the club's first draft pick was unlikely at this stage.
"We need to search for players outside the traditional pathways," Cameron said.
"If we have an early selection in the draft, then that will come via the traditional pathways (i.e. TAC Cup), but we will broaden our recruiting horizons in a bid to find the necessary talent to bolster our playing list and, with Blair now on board, we anticipate being quite active in the trade market.
"We're one of the first AFL clubs to have a fully-resourced trading division in our overall recruiting structure, so we are confident we'll be capably equipped to make smart decisions with regards to trades."
Cameron also said that despite Gold Coast's prominence in this year's NAB AFL Draft, Richmond would not be disadvantaged.
Gold Coast will have nine of the first 15 selections while 2010's wooden spooner will receive pick No.4.
Richmond is currently on the bottom of the AFL ladder and, along with Adelaide, is yet to win a game this season.
"A lot has been made about ... how it's not a good time to be 'bottoming out', with Gold Coast having so many early picks," Cameron said. "Well, I can assure you there will still be talented players available at our draft selections.
"The whole issue of bottoming out is an interesting one, too, because it's difficult to pinpoint the actual time when you bottom out.
"We brought 14 new players into the club late last year, and have drafted quite a few other young players over the past two or three years ... so I don't agree that we're going to be as disadvantaged as what many others in the football world would have you believe.
"We have a substantial group of young players on our list and we'll add to that at the end of the year, as well as find some more experienced, bigger-bodied players, who can help us out as well."
Meanwhile, Cameron added that media criticism of emerging forward Jack Riewoldt had been unfair, and that the 21-year-old "battles his heart out each week for us".
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/93714/default.aspx
Bump.
Here it is WAT.
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Thats the one OE, cheers, gee I should have known shouldn't I... :-[
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can i ask how many here think cousins was not worth getting. i ask this because i reckon the answer despite his age a dearth of experience and big bodies made him almost a must to have.
lets remember last yr and the circumstances why people wanted bradshaw well a couple of us anyway.
1 the list was bereft of quality 2 it was devoid of experienced players 3 we did not have one established kpf when richo decided to retire.
can i also ask why was it okay to go around again with a 34 yr old richo coming off serious injury. surely if we were to embrace the rebuild properly richo had to go.
i dont believe bradshaw was in anyones sights not even mine but when the big lug richo decided he could not go on i felt it would have been prudent to go get bradshaw as a short term solution to losing richo.
why would we keep richo well certainly sentiment came into it as it does with all stalwarts of clubs. but the main reasons had to be his experience and big body to take the brunt of the heavy work while what kpfs we had developed properly withoput getting killed at the top level. the same reasons are relevant for bradshaw.
i would have thought it desirable to fill glaring list shortcomings with quality. our kpf shortcomings were not going to be long term we drafted astbury griffiths had post and jack we just needed a bit of time while these kids developed. we still do.
the pros in getting bradshaw like cousins were obvious and like cuz he was not going to cost much a psd pick. his price at 500k per season was dirt cheap what would most expect to pay for a 60 70 per season plus goal kicker.besides for us money did not come into it we were battling to get to the minimum tpp. his size experience ability and knowledge just like cuz would have been invaluable to our young kpfs.
in the end we did it on the cheap and retained polak i know which player i wanted to see on my list and that was the proven player of quality with much to teach.
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Did Bradshaw kick 60 to 70 plus this season?
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claw - the argument is moot. Bradshaw will not be leaving Sydney and he has had a terrible run with injuries so in retrospect it was a wise move by the club to overlook the possible trade. I for one believe a big reason why Jack stepped up and became the Coleman Medalists this year is because he thrived on the responsibility and extra delivery he received without a bigger, more experienced forward being sharing the F50.
I think it would have been detrimental to have recuited Bradshaw but as I said already - the point is moot.
Stripes
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Claw - Will you get over Bradshaw, he never wanted to come to Melbourne
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Claw - Will you get over Bradshaw, he never wanted to come to Melbourne
And he would have been a terrible fit for us, a complete waste of whatever it cost us. Bradshaw and Cousins are at the opposite end of the spectrum as far as 'team' and 'camaraderie' go. Bradshaw has been a fine player over the journey but is a very insular and quite egotistical personality - he thinks, prepares and acts for himself first and team second. He is also now very injury prone and at 30 that is usually a death spell to a senior footballer. For Richmond to take him would not have provided any real benefit as far as mentoring and learning goes, and would only have hampered the improvement that was lying latent under Riewoldt's skin, waiting to blossom when the added stimulus of pressure and responsibility was applied. Bradshaw to Richmond would have been a terrible move and thankfully the club saw it that way too, making no effort to chase him.
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Claw - Will you get over Bradshaw, he never wanted to come to Melbourne
are you sure?
he family is from near Wodonga
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If he remained fit Bradshaw may have helped moved us up the ladder a spot or two.
Right fit for Sydney. Not for us.
As for Cousins if he had been available in the PSD at the start of 2010 I doubt Richmond would have selected him either.
As Dimma says no short cuts.
Moving on..
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Claw - Will you get over Bradshaw, he never wanted to come to Melbourne
are you sure?
he family is from near Wodonga
Yes, he was quite clear that he only wanted to go to Sydney
Plus there was the 3 year $5-600k per season deal he wanted at 30 years of age
He's shown this year that his body is already starting to fail him, so that contract is a MASSIVE risk
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Agreed Infamy, the way he's gone with injury this season vindicates not getting him. Will only go downhill
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Former Port Adelaide national recruiting manager Blair Hartley crossed to Punt Road in the off-season, and Cameron confirmed Hartley, as opposition and list analyst, would be heavily involved in luring senior players.
However, parting with the club's first draft pick was unlikely at this stage.
"We need to search for players outside the traditional pathways," Cameron said.
"If we have an early selection in the draft, then that will come via the traditional pathways (i.e. TAC Cup), but we will broaden our recruiting horizons in a bid to find the necessary talent to bolster our playing list and, with Blair now on board, we anticipate being quite active in the trade market.
"We're one of the first AFL clubs to have a fully-resourced trading division in our overall recruiting structure, so we are confident we'll be capably equipped to make smart decisions with regards to trades."
Grigg and Houli surely don't meet this criteria :P.
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Grigg - No.
Houli - Yes.
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Grigg - No.
Houli - Yes.
Neither do IMHO.
Just trade our players for picks and see what we can get.
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Grigg looks a certainty though for what I'm unsure....
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Agreed Infamy, the way he's gone with injury this season vindicates not getting him. Will only go downhill
will he geez thats some crystal ball.
yep he copped injury this yr and at his age will likely cop his fair share from here on in. what games he did play he looked damn good for a 30 yr old. i keep saying money is not an issue and wont be for awhile yet or should not be.
bradshaw in the psd at 500k a yr for 3 yrs was a steal. with that we know at his age you arent likely to get full seasons out of him. bloody hell theres always some risk.
anyway it has been done to death i think the reasons for getting him very valid no amount of arguing will change my mind.
astbury and griffiths have done nothing one got hurt and the other ended up down back. richo going left a void that imo should have been filled by an experienced player especially one who costs nothing, money aside. and is all quality.
in two yrs time all of post astbury griffiths will be ready if good enough. they will have had a player whos quality and experience would have been invaluable while they develop.
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Found it interesting to re-read the original post in this thread.
We actually were warned this was going to happen.
Some interesting comments in there worth considering amidst the shenanigans, real or perceived, going on.
Tigers planning to be active trade week players
By Steve Lavell
7:23 PM Wed 05 May, 2010
RICHMOND has revealed its plans to target players from opposition clubs as it strengthens its developing list beyond 2010.
In a report on richmondfc.com.au, general manager of football Craig Cameron wrote that the Tigers' trade-week intentions had been encouraged by the introduction of the Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney franchises.
Former Port Adelaide national recruiting manager Blair Hartley crossed to Punt Road in the off-season, and Cameron confirmed Hartley, as opposition and list analyst, would be heavily involved in luring senior players.
However, parting with the club's first draft pick was unlikely at this stage.
"We need to search for players outside the traditional pathways," Cameron said.
"If we have an early selection in the draft, then that will come via the traditional pathways (i.e. TAC Cup), but we will broaden our recruiting horizons in a bid to find the necessary talent to bolster our playing list and, with Blair now on board, we anticipate being quite active in the trade market.
"We're one of the first AFL clubs to have a fully-resourced trading division in our overall recruiting structure, so we are confident we'll be capably equipped to make smart decisions with regards to trades."
Cameron also said that despite Gold Coast's prominence in this year's NAB AFL Draft, Richmond would not be disadvantaged.
Gold Coast will have nine of the first 15 selections while 2010's wooden spooner will receive pick No.4.
Richmond is currently on the bottom of the AFL ladder and, along with Adelaide, is yet to win a game this season.
"A lot has been made about ... how it's not a good time to be 'bottoming out', with Gold Coast having so many early picks," Cameron said. "Well, I can assure you there will still be talented players available at our draft selections.
"The whole issue of bottoming out is an interesting one, too, because it's difficult to pinpoint the actual time when you bottom out.
"We brought 14 new players into the club late last year, and have drafted quite a few other young players over the past two or three years ... so I don't agree that we're going to be as disadvantaged as what many others in the football world would have you believe.
"We have a substantial group of young players on our list and we'll add to that at the end of the year, as well as find some more experienced, bigger-bodied players, who can help us out as well."
Meanwhile, Cameron added that media criticism of emerging forward Jack Riewoldt had been unfair, and that the 21-year-old "battles his heart out each week for us".
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/93714/default.aspx
I highly doubt we will end up without a pick somewhere in the thirties as well as 6/7.
Given that we could be loosing two mature bodied players, so whether it is direct player swap or swap for pick then on trade the pick (or our original equivalent, which ever is higher :) ), we are likely to recruit two players around the 22/23 age bracket.
The question is, will it be the names being thrown about?
Sure where there's smoke there is fire. I have no doubt the club has spoken to most if not all the players associated with us, but that does not necessarily mean we will trade for them. When acquiring an important asset you would be remiss not to explore all options, then make your decision, not the other way around.
Or is there a smokey being kept quiet?
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Agreed Infamy, the way he's gone with injury this season vindicates not getting him. Will only go downhill
anyway it has been done to death i think the reasons for getting him very valid no amount of arguing will change my mind.
likewise, nothing you say will change mine so stop wasting our time with your BS.
Regardless of your attempted sarcasm, hindsight vindicates the decision to not waste money on a player who would have had minimal impact at our club. I'm more than happy with the way things panned out in a developing season - ie Reiwoldt blossming and winning the coleman and AA selection at 21! and Griffiths giving us structure when he played and Astbury/Vickery/Post all pinch hitting gave dimma a bit of a preview as well as giving these guys valuale game time.
Bradshaw's a great player but so obvious it wasn't the right fit for both parties, build a bridge
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Well I am going out on a limb here and aginst what I said. If we can get Grigg, Houli and Sherman, only losing Tambling, Thursfield and maybe Polo or a last round pick then hey I am for it.
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Or is there a smokey being kept quiet?
No, I'll speak up when I need to Al. ;D
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;D Of that i have no doubt :thumbsup
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I love trade time, its exciting. Hey did you hear about all the magpies in town again on Friday? there was no parade so I asked the missus what was going on and she said someone had spread a rumor about a free methadone being handed out.