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Port star in high demand
JAKE NIALL
May 6, 2010
PORT Adelaide midfielder and former Victorian Travis Boak has emerged as one of the most keenly sought out-of-contract players in the competition, with several Victorian clubs and the Gold Coast having shown strong interest in the 21-year-old.
Essendon, Carlton, Collingwood, Richmond, Melbourne and St Kilda are understood to be among the clubs to have registered an interest in Boak, who late last week put contract talks with Port on hold until mid-season. Geelong would be an interested party only in the event that Gary Ablett went to the Gold Coast and freed up salary cap room.
While Boak arguably also fits Hawthorn's needs, the Hawks' tight salary cap and need to re-contract the likes of Lance Franklin and Jarryd Roughead has removed them from any serious pursuit.
Boak is one of the most attractive players in the market place now due to the fact that, as a Victorian playing interstate - he grew up in Torquay - he has been seen as ''gettable''. Historically, homecoming players, like Chris Judd in 2007, represent the best chance of prising a player away from his club.
Port Adelaide, however, has a solid relationship with the player and is confident of retaining him. The Power, which is also seeking to re-contract another Victorian in Robbie Gray, and West Australian Nathan Krakouer, has offered Boak a two-year deal.
Boak's manager, Tom Petroro, met Port officials last Thursday and arranged to put contract talks on hold until mid-season.
Petroro indicated there was high interest in Boak due to the fact that he was playing out of state. ''As a Victorian boy interstate and he's a high draft pick, he's going to have a lot of interest. He also has the attributes that every club wants in their midfield.'' he said.
''Travis is contracted until the end of the year at Port and there is no hurry to extend. We feel Port have been fantastic to Travis since he was drafted and when the time is right we will sit down and discuss Trav's future.''
Boak also has attracted the interest of the Gold Coast, which obviously has the capacity to pay more than the other clubs, but does not have the go-home factor in its favour.
Boak finished sixth in Port's best and fairest last year, despite missing four games due to a knee injury. He picked up more than 30 possessions on four occasions and received five Brownlow votes in his first season as a full-time midfielder last year. He was placed in Port's top five for both hard and loose ball gets, for kicks and handballs and third in tackles.
Boak was drafted from the Geelong Falcons at pick No. 5 in the 2006 national draft, ahead of that year's best-performed player, Joel Selwood. Geelong rated Boak so highly that it would have picked him ahead of Selwood, whom the Cats famously snared at pick seven in that draft. He has played 54 games since debuting in 2007.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/port-star-in-high-demand-20100505-uaml.html
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good to see, it would be a real coup if we managed to get boak, this is the type of player we ought to focus on trading for, not the likes of jordan mcmahon.
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good to see, it would be a real coup if we managed to get boak, this is the type of player we ought to focus on trading for, not the likes of jordan mcmahon.
agree 100%
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Boak or Gray would be nice (SEN mentioned both have refused to sign).
The only problem now is what have we got of any value to give Port Adelaide...??
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Boak or Gray would be nice (SEN mentioned both have refused to sign).
The only problem now is what have we got of any value to give Port Adelaide...??
Farmer? Thomson? :rollin
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Hopefully, if Port HAVE to trade him, they give us priority given our recent trading relationship, in addition to Blair Hartley recently joining our ranks.
Simon Hogan is one of the ones I'd be looking at closely, too.
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Boak will cost us our 2nd rounder and a player. Depending which player, Id be fully supportive if we could get him.
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Boak will cost us our 2nd rounder and a player. Depending which player, Id be fully supportive if we could get him.
Dunno about that, I think they'd be after a top ten pick.
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Boak will cost us our 2nd rounder and a player. Depending which player, Id be fully supportive if we could get him.
they can have Farmer back, he is hopeless.
Choco knows a good thing thats why farmer was allowed to leave but no way on earth Boak will be allowed to leave for a 2nd rounder
he is a gun!!
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Boak will cost us our 2nd rounder and a player. Depending which player, Id be fully supportive if we could get him.
Dunno about that, I think they'd be after a top ten pick.
So do I.
We might be interested but we won't get him.
Swap for Daniel Jackson and a later pick, Choco?? Cmon help us out in a time of need. :rollin :wallywink
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they can have Farmer back, he is hopeless.
Agreed. Entirely unconvinced by Mitch.
Extremely average player who was flogged by his opponents last weekend.
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they can have Farmer back, he is hopeless.
Agreed. Entirely unconvinced by Mitch.
Extremely average player who was flogged by his opponents last weekend.
Who wasn't?? ??? I'm willing to give him more time than the first 6 rounds to show something.
There were at least 10 players flogged worse than Farmer I reckon.
At least he was kicking the bloody ball, which is more than I can say for Collins, Jackson, Rance and Nahas just to name a few.
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There were at least 10 players flogged worse than Farmer I reckon.
That's your opinion, mine differs.
I think those Geelong players that were his direct opponents hurt us more than most.
I just don't see what he's got at this point and doubt he'll be part of our future.
Hope I am wrong!
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Boak is a gun.
Jan Juc boy, could see why he wants to leave Port ADelaIDE.
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Id give Jackson, Edwards and 2nd round pick for Boak. Although if we really do want him I can see us swapping 1st round picks with Port and throwing in a player either Edwards or Jackson. Boaks a terrific player.
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Id give Jackson, Edwards and 2nd round pick for Boak. Although if we really do want him I can see us swapping 1st round picks with Port and throwing in a player either Edwards or Jackson. Boaks a terrific player.
I'd be all for a first round pick swap.
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As far as I can tell GC17 don't get first pick in the PSD
Perhaps we could talk him into walking for decent $$$
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what Port would want (and will get) we dont have to give simple as that, dont get your hopes up ppl. Burgoyne went for picks 9 & 16, Boak has more currency..
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what Port would want (and will get) we dont have to give simple as that, dont get your hopes up ppl. Burgoyne went for picks 9 & 16, Boak has more currency..
Possibly but Hawthorn were very aggressive in the trade period and gave 25 and 41 for Gibson which may have been a bit overpriced so Port seeing this and knowing the Hawks were willing to offload Williams they waited until all those deals were done and got the most out of the Hawks there too.
Put simply I felt we should have kept our mouth shut and not shoot off our intentions. Clubs may have assumed we might have been aggressive but knowing that we are now may incline them to ask too much for a trade much like the Hawks did last year. Nevertheless I still feel Tambling and a third round pick that can get bargained to a second round pick can be agreed upon for Boak.
One question what about the pre season draft with us finishing last. Do we get first pick in December or does GC if assuming no club does a trade and he falls through the Novermber draft also.
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what Port would want (and will get) we dont have to give simple as that, dont get your hopes up ppl. Burgoyne went for picks 9 & 16, Boak has more currency..
Possibly but Hawthorn were very aggressive in the trade period and gave 25 and 41 for Gibson which may have been a bit overpriced so Port seeing this and knowing the Hawks were willing to offload Williams they waited until all those deals were done and got the most out of the Hawks there too.
Put simply I felt we should have kept our mouth shut and not shoot off our intentions. Clubs may have assumed we might have been aggressive but knowing that we are now may incline them to ask too much for a trade much like the Hawks did last year. Nevertheless I still feel Tambling and a third round pick that can get bargained to a second round pick can be agreed upon for Boak.
One question what about the pre season draft with us finishing last. Do we get first pick in December or does GC if assuming no club does a trade and he falls through the Novermber draft also.
nah no chance tambling and our 2nd pick would get it done tucker, Boak is a seriously good talent and his worth has gone up from the pick 5 (or whatever it was he was taken at). They'll want first rounders and clubs like collingwood who are locked and loaded will move heaven and earth to get them to port.
as for the PSD, im not sure, but bottom line is they can get 16 uncontracted players and they would be well within their rights to use them up before we get our 1st pick if I'm not mistaken.
and I agree we should not be signalling our intentions ::). In 05 and 06 did the hawks bang on about not wanting to pay wallace and eade 600k per season instead opting to put that money into the footy department? No they didn't, they kept their mouths shut, took ther medicine and just backed clarko continuously saying he was the right man for the job, once they won the premiership they turned around and sad this is what we did, now suck it up. smart operators the whoreks
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what Port would want (and will get) we dont have to give simple as that, dont get your hopes up ppl. Burgoyne went for picks 9 & 16, Boak has more currency..
Possibly but Hawthorn were very aggressive in the trade period and gave 25 and 41 for Gibson which may have been a bit overpriced so Port seeing this and knowing the Hawks were willing to offload Williams they waited until all those deals were done and got the most out of the Hawks there too.
Put simply I felt we should have kept our mouth shut and not shoot off our intentions. Clubs may have assumed we might have been aggressive but knowing that we are now may incline them to ask too much for a trade much like the Hawks did last year. Nevertheless I still feel Tambling and a third round pick that can get bargained to a second round pick can be agreed upon for Boak.
One question what about the pre season draft with us finishing last. Do we get first pick in December or does GC if assuming no club does a trade and he falls through the Novermber draft also.
nah no chance tambling and our 2nd pick would get it done tucker, Boak is a seriously good talent and his worth has gone up from the pick 5 (or whatever it was he was taken at). They'll want first rounders and clubs like collingwood who are locked and loaded will move heaven and earth to get them to port.
as for the PSD, im not sure, but bottom line is they can get 16 uncontracted players and they would be well within their rights to use them up before we get our 1st pick if I'm not mistaken.
Pretty sure uncontracted players need to agree to go to GC, they can't just select them like in a draft
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Foley for a 10-12 pick (Hawthorn would snap him up)
Tambling for a 20 pick (St.Kildas first pick)
Jackson and our 2nd rounder pick 29 to Port (The need a harder body to compensate the run of Rodan, Pearce and Cassissi) for Robbi Gray.
We lose:
Foley
Jackson
Tambling
Gain:
10-12 pick
Robbie Gray
Be a reasonable start having Robbie Gray and having picks 4, 10, 20 (what ever our 2nd pick would be)
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I think trading with Port can be favourable. Although they won a flag the year after Stevens left for Carlton for no compensation Port have been seething since and have never ever wanted to go down that path again. Whether he stays, goes to us or goes elsewhere he will go and Port will get compensation.
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Foley for a 10-12 pick (Hawthorn would snap him up)
Tambling for a 20 pick (St.Kildas first pick)
Jackson and our 2nd rounder pick 29 to Port (The need a harder body to compensate the run of Rodan, Pearce and Cassissi) for Robbi Gray.
We lose:
Foley
Jackson
Tambling
Gain:
10-12 pick
Robbie Gray
Be a reasonable start having Robbie Gray and having picks 4, 10, 20 (what ever our 2nd pick would be)
Robbie Gray is a better version of Morton. We can offload Morton if we get Gray.
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Im pretty sure richmond will cower in the likes of collingwood and Saints when going for him .. But i gess we MIGHT get him because we don't have richo or brown which frees some money, but then again collingwood will probably promise him heaps of money and glory like Ball .. what can we offer him? diddle squat ?
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Problem is Collingwood will think Rusling will get the deal done, or offer pick 30 like they did with Ball.
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Problem is Collingwood will think Rusling will get the deal done, or offer pick 30 like they did with Ball.
ermm .. ill ask you guys if you were a 21 year old gun in the afl would you want to go to richmond ?? bottom of the ladder and will remain there for a good few years ??? and your not a richmond fan :P
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Foley for a 10-12 pick (Hawthorn would snap him up)
Tambling for a 20 pick (St.Kildas first pick)
Jackson and our 2nd rounder pick 29 to Port (The need a harder body to compensate the run of Rodan, Pearce and Cassissi) for Robbi Gray.
We lose:
Foley
Jackson
Tambling
Gain:
10-12 pick
Robbie Gray
Be a reasonable start having Robbie Gray and having picks 4, 10, 20 (what ever our 2nd pick would be)
Robbie Gray is a better version of Morton. We can offload Morton if we get Gray.
I think this day and age its vital to have 2 small forwards, they'd be great together for a period of 5-8 years. With Griffths and Jack Riewoldt as talls with Astbury and Taylor on the Flanks. Thats a great forward line. I think Port will think they are closer to a flag then they think and would rather a seasoned player than a draft pick for Gray. Giving them Morton and a pick is a lose/lose. Robbing peter to pay Paul with the risk that the upgrade from Morton to Gray could be another Callan Ward scenario
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i like Morton, id rather him than no listen Reiwoldt ... he will become nothing ..
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i like Morton, id rather him than no listen Reiwoldt ... he will become nothing ..
That's a big call. One I certainly don't agree with. Jack had shouldered a huge load this year and is only 21.
More upside for Jack to come especially with Post, Astbury, Vickery and Griffiths yet to stamp their mark as a KPP in the forward line.
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I don't think Tambling will be traded and why should he be, the guy will be a gem in a decent side so lets wait until we have him in our decent side eh.. :thumbsup
If unfortunately he is traded then he is worth more than whats being talked about on this forum, he was fourth pick and we would have to be compensated accordingly. Remember Ottens, we had our behinds ripped appart during that deal didn't we!!! Lets not have that happen again!!! I would be happy to trade up the following players with LATE round picks for mature experienced players.
Edwards
Connors (off field too dodgy)
White
Collins
Farmer
Nahas (really like him but might add value)
Graham
Hislop
Thompson
McMahon
Morton
Post
Rance
King
If we are starting to build then lets do it properly, surley the picks and players we could generate through trade week and for draft picks using this lot could bring the next finals side.
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personally Ive had enough of anyone from Port Adelaide. We should be trying to get some key position players that can play forward and back. Good midfielders are always going to be available but good talls are whats hard to find.
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personally Ive had enough of anyone from Port Adelaide. We should be trying to get some key position players that can play forward and back. Good midfielders are always going to be available but good talls are whats hard to find.
How good would a Mitch Clark be at Richmond right now or in three years time?
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Ask why would Joel McDonald want to come to Melbourne.
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I really think we need to stop dreaming, although it's great isn't it.. ;D. I know we are APPARENTLY going to be aggressive during trade week but really what have we got to be aggressive with.
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I really think we need to stop dreaming, although it's great isn't it.. ;D. I know we are APPARENTLY going to be aggressive during trade week but really what have we got to be aggressive with.
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personally Ive had enough of anyone from Port Adelaide. We should be trying to get some key position players that can play forward and back. Good midfielders are always going to be available but good talls are whats hard to find.
How good would a Mitch Clark be at Richmond right now or in three years time?
yes it would be good, but unfortunately we have to put up with the greats exploits of Troy Simmonds. :help
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I really think we need to stop dreaming, although it's great isn't it.. ;D. I know we are APPARENTLY going to be aggressive during trade week but really what have we got to be aggressive with.
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Yeah we will have them, but if we offer it will they come.. :-\
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I really think we need to stop dreaming, although it's great isn't it.. ;D. I know we are APPARENTLY going to be aggressive during trade week but really what have we got to be aggressive with.
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Yeah we will have them, but if we offer it will they come.. :-\
Richmond should target 2 players in this fashion- 1 of them has to be a ruck, the other can be a Boak type. Players look at footy as though its a job. Convincing 1 or 2 to come over shouldnt be an issue if the offer is good.
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i like Morton, id rather him than no listen Reiwoldt ... he will become nothing ..
That's a big call. One I certainly don't agree with. Jack had shouldered a huge load this year and is only 21.
More upside for Jack to come especially with Post, Astbury, Vickery and Griffiths yet to stamp their mark as a KPP in the forward line.
He has developed a kicking habit and a habit to crack under pressure but i think we would get a good pick or player for him
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Foley for a 10-12 pick (Hawthorn would snap him up)
Tambling for a 20 pick (St.Kildas first pick)
Jackson and our 2nd rounder pick 29 to Port (The need a harder body to compensate the run of Rodan, Pearce and Cassissi) for Robbi Gray.
We lose:
Foley
Jackson
Tambling
Gain:
10-12 pick
Robbie Gray
Be a reasonable start having Robbie Gray and having picks 4, 10, 20 (what ever our 2nd pick would be)
sorry i dont understand what the big deal about Robbie Gray is.
He has hardly put a solid season together yet and would be another Pettifer IMO.
Would be another terrible draft selection.
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Foley for a 10-12 pick (Hawthorn would snap him up)
Tambling for a 20 pick (St.Kildas first pick)
Jackson and our 2nd rounder pick 29 to Port (The need a harder body to compensate the run of Rodan, Pearce and Cassissi) for Robbi Gray.
We lose:
Foley
Jackson
Tambling
Gain:
10-12 pick
Robbie Gray
Be a reasonable start having Robbie Gray and having picks 4, 10, 20 (what ever our 2nd pick would be)
sorry i dont understand what the big deal about Robbie Gray is.
He has hardly put a solid season together yet and would be another Pettifer IMO.
Would be another terrible draft selection.
Agreed Boak is heaps better than Gray. Gray is only being mentioned with Boak b/c he kicked five goals in the Showdown last weekend.
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I really think we need to stop dreaming, although it's great isn't it.. ;D. I know we are APPARENTLY going to be aggressive during trade week but really what have we got to be aggressive with.
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Yeah we will have them, but if we offer it will they come.. :-\
Richmond should target 2 players in this fashion- 1 of them has to be a ruck, the other can be a Boak type. Players look at footy as though its a job. Convincing 1 or 2 to come over shouldnt be an issue if the offer is good.
Dead right, totally agree and if it came off it would be great for the club. Would have to be extremely talented footballers though.
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I would be happy to trade up the following players with LATE round picks for mature experienced players.
Edwards
Connors (off field too dodgy)
White
Collins
Farmer
Nahas (really like him but might add value)
Graham
Hislop
Thompson
McMahon
Morton
Post
Rance
King
Ridiculous list of players for half of them
Giving up on half our kids before they've even had a proper chance to develop
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I would be happy to trade up the following players with LATE round picks for mature experienced players.
Edwards
Connors (off field too dodgy)
White
Collins
Farmer
Nahas (really like him but might add value)
Graham
Hislop
Thompson
McMahon
Morton
Post
Rance
King
Ridiculous list of players for half of them
Giving up on half our kids before they've even had a proper chance to develop
Ridiculous or realistic, given up on our kids, please what has this list shown, please tell me??? If we are serious about being serious during trade week it's time to be aggressive like the other clubs are. We are weak during trade period and it has to stop. You have a go at my list Infamy what ever you do don't go onto the other trade thread because the likes of Foley, Tambling and the rest are being thrown up.
Post has gone backwards, Rance (who I always liked) just doesn't seem to fit, Morton doesn't want the hard ball or to work hard for that matter, do I need to go on, the rest have pretty well had long enough to show something, Farmer maybe not but who the hell else Infamy. C'mon what have they done???
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I would be happy to trade up the following players with LATE round picks for mature experienced players.
Edwards
Connors (off field too dodgy)
White
Collins
Farmer
Nahas (really like him but might add value)
Graham
Hislop
Thompson
McMahon
Morton
Post
Rance
King
Ridiculous list of players for half of them
Giving up on half our kids before they've even had a proper chance to develop
Ridiculous or realistic, given up on our kids, please what has this list shown, please tell me??? If we are serious about being serious during trade week it's time to be aggressive like the other clubs are. We are weak during trade period and it has to stop. You have a go at my list Infamy what ever you do don't go onto the other trade thread because the likes of Foley, Tambling and the rest are being thrown up.
Post has gone backwards, Rance (who I always liked) just doesn't seem to fit, Morton doesn't want the hard ball or to work hard for that matter, do I need to go on, the rest have pretty well had long enough to show something, Farmer maybe not but who the hell else Infamy. C'mon what have they done???
They're kids. At any other club they wouldn't have even have debuted yet as they are let to develop at a lower level. We have no need to top up with older players yet, just keep focussing on the draft and delist/trade the older players who won't be around when we are playing finals in a couple of years.
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I would be happy to trade up the following players with LATE round picks for mature experienced players.
Edwards
Connors (off field too dodgy)
White
Collins
Farmer
Nahas (really like him but might add value)
Graham
Hislop
Thompson
McMahon
Morton
Post
Rance
King
Ridiculous list of players for half of them
Giving up on half our kids before they've even had a proper chance to develop
Ridiculous or realistic, given up on our kids, please what has this list shown, please tell me??? If we are serious about being serious during trade week it's time to be aggressive like the other clubs are. We are weak during trade period and it has to stop. You have a go at my list Infamy what ever you do don't go onto the other trade thread because the likes of Foley, Tambling and the rest are being thrown up.
Post has gone backwards, Rance (who I always liked) just doesn't seem to fit, Morton doesn't want the hard ball or to work hard for that matter, do I need to go on, the rest have pretty well had long enough to show something, Farmer maybe not but who the hell else Infamy. C'mon what have they done???
They're kids. At any other club they wouldn't have even have debuted yet as they are let to develop at a lower level. We have no need to top up with older players yet, just keep focussing on the draft and delist/trade the older players who won't be around when we are playing finals in a couple of years.
Kids they might be Infamy but that doesnt mean we can't trade them for better kids or draft picks. Have another look at the names on the list, have any of them played better than Barlow or Silvani this year.... no. I am not saying trade them for older players, but trade them for better players or draft picks. Borlow and Silvani type players will be out there and I am sure a few clubs would be interested in some of my list for draft picks.
We need to stop sitting on our hands and mix it up this year during trade period. The name of players I have listed IMHO, none will play in our next finals side!!
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Post has only played 10 senior games of footy WAT. A bit early to make a call on him isnt it?
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Post has only played 10 senior games of footy WAT. A bit early to make a call on him isnt it?
Post maybe one, but the rest, take your pick, and post has slowed down a lot from last year IMO, he might get us a better player or pick in the draft.
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As Infamy said WAT, most other teams can afford the luxury of letting their kids get experience in the VFL, then bring them in for a taste of AFL, then drop them back if they're struggling a bit and not have fans write them off as duds after 3 games (eg. Matt Dea). They're not required to dominate games so early into their careers.
With Melbournes improvement, there isn't the pressure on them anymore to get Jack Watts into the team and kick 5 goals a week. Jamar's form means their young rucks can go about it at VFL till they're ready.
We're going so bad at the moment that if a kid hasn't shown anything in 10 games, some want to move them on and try our luck in the draft again, only for the same thing to happen.
Going through your list:
Edwards - keep, he keeps improving.
Connors - keep
White - delist, he's worthless
Collins - keep
Farmer - keep
Nahas - keep
Graham - delist, he's worthless
Hislop - reports are that he's doing well at Coburg, still only a 20 year old - keep
Thomson - Old enough now that he should be a regular - delist
McMahon - delist
Morton - i'd trade this guy and he might get us an early pick
Post - keep, only his second year
Rance - keep
King - delist
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Every week many on this forum call for just about all of those players on my list to be either dropped, de-listed, casterated, shot, garrotted or just hung out to dry... ;D. Now, all I am saying is that IMHO they are all tradeable regardless of age. Would you take an early draft pick in return for Morton and Post.. I would. Connors, now every man and his dog will tell you I was his advocate more than anyone on this earth but he just can't settle off field and his latest is not his first indescretion. Edwards has played two really good games, I said really good, in his entire career at the RFC, trade him. Farmer, Nahas and Edwards all the same size and could quite easily play in each others position, why have 3 of them or even them 3, trade them off for taller KPP players (maybe keep Nahas or Farmer). Surley teams closer to the top would look at them to fill their voids. As for Collins, I have had a lot of time for this bloke but he plays with all the time in the world now and then he gets caught, he now second gueses instead of giving off in the first instance and is continuously caught and now he has lost his beautiful accurate kicking on either side of his body.
The rest of them, well I agree.
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Kids they might be Infamy but that doesnt mean we can't trade them for better kids or draft picks.
Sounds like a dog chasing it's tail to me.
Have another look at the names on the list, have any of them played better than Barlow or Silvani this year.... no. I am not saying trade them for older players, but trade them for better players or draft picks. Borlow and Silvani type players will be out there and I am sure a few clubs would be interested in some of my list for draft picks.
You are comparing our 18-19 year olds to mature age recruits.
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Kids they might be Infamy but that doesnt mean we can't trade them for better kids or draft picks.
Sounds like a dog chasing it's tail to me.
Have another look at the names on the list, have any of them played better than Barlow or Silvani this year.... no. I am not saying trade them for older players, but trade them for better players or draft picks. Borlow and Silvani type players will be out there and I am sure a few clubs would be interested in some of my list for draft picks.
You are comparing our 18-19 year olds to mature age recruits.
In all honesty Infamy in the end if a good deal comes along involving any of those players we shouldn't expect the RFC to keep them regardless of age. If Collins, Edwards, Connors, Post etc.... can be traded for either better players (2 years older) or draft picks that will ensure we move forward as a club than I would as a supporter/member, expect them to trade.
It's only my opinion that list I made based on what I have seen of them players over the years and as of now.
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It's only my opinion that list I made based on what I have seen of them players over the years and as of now.
I gave my thoughts on the list above, but I break it down to 3 categories.
1. Still too young to give up on; or
2. Completely worthless on the trade table; or
3. Morton = value. If the Hawks could get pick 16 for Mark Williams, we should expect the same or better for Morton.
Collins, Edwards, Farmer etc. might not turn out to be elite, but we need good reliable core players. To get that though, they need games pumped into them.
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It's only my opinion that list I made based on what I have seen of them players over the years and as of now.
I gave my thoughts on the list above, but I break it down to 3 categories.
1. Still too young to give up on; or
2. Completely worthless on the trade table; or
3. Morton = value. If the Hawks could get pick 16 for Mark Williams, we should expect the same or better for Morton.
Collins, Edwards, Farmer etc. might not turn out to be elite, but we need good reliable core players. To get that though, they need games pumped into them.
Great call on Morton Wayne could really get us something. I will reserve judgement on the other three as I don't want to come accross as bagging them, lets just hope there is further development left in the three you have mentioned. Too many times IMO we have hung onto these type of frindge dwellers and they become list cloggers. But in the end I will wait and see how the rest of the season unfolds. I just hope we don't fall in love with players that won't be in our finals team, the average Joe blow player and at the moment thats how I see these three... :thumbsup.
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Realistically! whats our chances of snatching him?
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Morton dropped again.... might end up on the trade table??
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morton is just another half forward flanker thats all - if hardwick trades him its no big loss
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not too many half forward flankers kicked more goals than him last season.
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not too many half forward flankers kicked more goals than him last season.
thats true and thats one reason why youd consider a trade - hes actually worth something!
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While "he's worth something" seems to conflict with "no big loss", if it was to get us a ready made, or close to it, ruckman then i would agree you. not for draft picks though. A bird in the hand is still better than two in the bush.
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Have another look at the names on the list, have any of them played better than Barlow or Silvani this year.... no. I am not saying trade them for older players, but trade them for better players or draft picks. Borlow and Silvani type players will be out there and I am sure a few clubs would be interested in some of my list for draft picks.
You are comparing our 18-19 year olds to mature age recruits.
You don't care much about truth.
Of that list White, Nahas, Graham, Thomson, McMahon, Morton and King (also Polo) are older than Barlow and all except Nahas are older than Silvagni.
Edwards, Connors, Collins, Farmer and Hislop are about a year younger ie about 21-22.
Only Post and Rance are significantly younger.
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While "he's worth something" seems to conflict with "no big loss", if it was to get us a ready made, or close to it, ruckman then i would agree you. not for draft picks though. A bird in the hand is still better than two in the bush.
With where the club is now on field and for the next two years I feel that the paradox of he's worth something to no big loss is scarily apt even if it means it's contradictory for some.
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He has developed a kicking habit and a habit to crack under pressure but i think we would get a good pick or player for him
Crack habit - don't tell Ben
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personally Ive had enough of anyone from Port Adelaide.
Boak is from outside Geelong
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personally Ive had enough of anyone from Port Adelaide.
Boak is from outside Geelong
Outside Geelong is not an AFL side and will not be the leagues 19th franchise either. :rollin
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Boak is from Jan Juc so it woud not be strange if he wants to return to Victoria.
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Boak is from Jan Juc (moron) so it woud not be strange if he wants to return to Victoria.
thats where ablett's sister beats people up~!
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Boak is from Jan Juc so it woud not be strange if he wants to return to Victoria.
but would he come to richmond ?
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Boak is from Jan Juc (moron) so it woud not be strange if he wants to return to Victoria.
thats where ablett's sister beats people up~!
Is she old enough to be drafted? Can we rookie her? I'm thinking outside the box....
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Boak is from Jan Juc (moron) so it woud not be strange if he wants to return to Victoria.
thats where ablett's sister beats people up~!
Shane Tuck's mum?
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Hadn't seen much of this bloke until last night.
Would be really happy to see in in tiger colors. has a bit of class about him.
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Players like that won't come cheap.
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No chance!
It would be good to get him but if he leaves he'll be going to GC probably.
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Boak is from Jan Juc (moron) so it woud not be strange if he wants to return to Victoria.
thats where ablett's sister beats people up~!
Is she old enough to be drafted? Can we rookie her? I'm thinking outside the box....
as long as you're not thinking about her box or she might beat you up!
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I did say outside not inside..
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Well we will get to see plenty of Boak next week won't we. Lets hope some of the boys can impress him enough.. :thumbsup
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has he signed yet with a club ? just have totally forgotten :)
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has he signed yet with a club ? just have totally forgotten :)
Signed before the end of the season
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has he signed yet with a club ? just have totally forgotten :)
Signed before the end of the season
oh k thanks