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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: yellowandback on May 09, 2010, 07:01:51 PM
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Seriously. It's 2010. What gives ?
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nothing chnages at Punt Road.
We have had thos issue for 30 years and at this rate we will have it for another 30.
I cant understand how we seem to be the only club who cant get it right, even when we finish 9th we still stuff this up
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players simply not capable of doing it properly Im afraid and the rest arent smart enough to do it!
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Kick ins are a total disgrace.
Suburban clubs can do it better than we do.
Who is to blame
THE COACH
Hardwick, NO IDEA
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Kicking in to thier talls :lol
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Kick ins are a total disgrace.
Suburban clubs can do it better than we do.
Who is to blame
THE COACH
Hardwick, NO IDEA
Gary Ayres was the man to take :thumbsup
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Kick ins are a total disgrace.
Suburban clubs can do it better than we do.
Who is to blame
THE COACH
Hardwick, NO IDEA
Gary Ayres was the man to take :thumbsup
now your just being stupid monky.
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Kick ins are a total disgrace.
Suburban clubs can do it better than we do.
Who is to blame
THE COACH
Hardwick, NO IDEA
Gary Ayres was the man to take :thumbsup
yeh right. :lol
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Actually Gary Ayres would of been a TERRIFIC COACH.
Great bloke as well.
Knows him coaching too :thumbsup
At least we would have a game plan.
Players have clearly gone backwards under HARDWICK
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Dont see Ayres having any problems down at Port Melborne without a AFL backing
Great with youngsters take one look at Nahas
His league coaching is very good
better than what l seen since Northey
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Actually Gary Ayres would of been a TERRIFIC COACH.
Great bloke as well.
Knows him coaching too :thumbsup
At least we would have a game plan.
Players have clearly gone backwards under HARDWICK
thats Bull Jamie and you know it!
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Actually Gary Ayres would of been a TERRIFIC COACH.
Great bloke as well.
Knows him coaching too :thumbsup
At least we would have a game plan.
Players have clearly gone backwards under HARDWICK
thats Bull Jamie and you know it!
Ramps, it isnt,
Worked with Gary in 2006.
Pretty smart coach.
Hardwick aint cutting it and has little idea.
We cant even kick the ball in anymore WTF
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Actually Gary Ayres would of been a TERRIFIC COACH.
Great bloke as well.
Knows him coaching too :thumbsup
At least we would have a game plan.
Players have clearly gone backwards under HARDWICK
thats Bull Jamie and you know it!
Ramps, it isnt,
Worked with Gary in 2006.
Pretty smart coach.
Hardwick aint cutting it and has little idea.
We cant even kick the ball in anymore WTF
my quote was not about Ayres ... IIt was about your belief our players have gone backwards under Hardwick. I disagree. As for Kick Ins theyve been poo for atleast 3 years now.
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Kick ins under Wallace and Rawlings were ordinary but at least they worked.
Kicking to contests as we have done all year is a DISGRACE
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Kick ins under Wallace and Rawlings were ordinary but at least they worked.
Kicking to contests as we have done all year is a DISGRACE
kick Ins cant be ordinary and at the same time work - Wallace also had Bowden to control that stuff. Hardwick has got jack schizen to work with.
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Kick ins under Wallace and Rawlings were ordinary but at least they worked.
Kicking to contests as we have done all year is a DISGRACE
kick Ins cant be ordinary and at the same time work - Wallace also had Bowden to control that stuff. Hardwick has got jack schizen to work with.
Hey , hold on,
Who is telling them to kick to the opposition ruckman 2 weeks in a row :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Jacko - common be serious, how many brains does a player need to see that kicking to a contest where the opposition has atleast 1 big man in the vicinity is the wrong decision? Answer - NONE!
The players have no idea because most of them arent up to it. Humphry B Bear wouldnt even make that mistake. Our players are dumb thats all!
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Terrible :banghead needs work here
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We all know the kick in's are a concern so I just thought by starting a thread dedicated to the kick in's it will save us having to read about the kick in's in every post from Jackstar... ;D ;D
Fire away Jack... vent... tell us about them!!
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Jacko - common be serious, how many brains does a player need to see that kicking to a contest where the opposition has atleast 1 big man in the vicinity is the wrong decision? Answer - NONE!
And most of the time it's our "captain courageous" that is the culprit. :-X :scream
The fact he gets the wear the 17 is a disgrace.
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Jacko - common be serious, how many brains does a player need to see that kicking to a contest where the opposition has atleast 1 big man in the vicinity is the wrong decision? Answer - NONE!
The players have no idea because most of them arent up to it. Humphry B Bear wouldnt even make that mistake. Our players are dumb thats all!
Can tell you 100% , the players are told to do that.
They what the call structures ::)
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Pointless discussing with imbeciles WA ;)
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Well I do agree with you mate believe it or not. I am baffled at why we kick where we do but what would you do and what have they been told to do because something is not right.
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Jacko - common be serious, how many brains does a player need to see that kicking to a contest where the opposition has atleast 1 big man in the vicinity is the wrong decision? Answer - NONE!
The players have no idea because most of them arent up to it. Humphry B Bear wouldnt even make that mistake. Our players are dumb thats all!
Can tell you 100% , the players are told to do that.
They what the call structures ::)
The players are told to kick to the contest with the biggest opposition players?
Bullsh!t
It's stupid players and lazy players not working to create options
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Jacko - common be serious, how many brains does a player need to see that kicking to a contest where the opposition has atleast 1 big man in the vicinity is the wrong decision? Answer - NONE!
The players have no idea because most of them arent up to it. Humphry B Bear wouldnt even make that mistake. Our players are dumb thats all!
Can tell you 100% , the players are told to do that.
They what the call structures ::)
Who gave you that info? A player, someone in the coaching staff , a trainer at a quarter or 3 quarter time huddle?
Tell me Jack I really want to know.
I don't believe it one bit. Please tell me mate.
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Jacko - common be serious, how many brains does a player need to see that kicking to a contest where the opposition has atleast 1 big man in the vicinity is the wrong decision? Answer - NONE!
The players have no idea because most of them arent up to it. Humphry B Bear wouldnt even make that mistake. Our players are dumb thats all!
Can tell you 100% , the players are told to do that.
They what the call structures ::)
Who gave you that info? A player, someone in the coaching staff , a trainer at a quarter or 3 quarter time huddle?
Tell me Jack I really want to know.
I don't believe it one bit. Please tell me mate.
I think it's the voices in his head.
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Jacko - common be serious, how many brains does a player need to see that kicking to a contest where the opposition has atleast 1 big man in the vicinity is the wrong decision? Answer - NONE!
The players have no idea because most of them arent up to it. Humphry B Bear wouldnt even make that mistake. Our players are dumb thats all!
Can tell you 100% , the players are told to do that.
They what the call structures ::)
Who gave you that info? A player, someone in the coaching staff , a trainer at a quarter or 3 quarter time huddle?
Tell me Jack I really want to know.
I don't believe it one bit. Please tell me mate.
If you watch on the couch on Tuesday Night, Gerard Healy will explain.
Pointless me telling you when all I get is abusive messages
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I reckon they're told if they have no option kick it long to the back flank.
If we had other options they'd go for them. Lazy players is what I think it is.
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I reckon they're told if they have no option kick it long to the back flank.
If we had other options they'd go for them. Lazy players is what I think it is.
thats whats happening but our players dont run into space, they dont offer moving target to get out, the 2nd kick when it does get out usually results in a turnover anyway ... our players arent up to it thats all.
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Jacko - common be serious, how many brains does a player need to see that kicking to a contest where the opposition has atleast 1 big man in the vicinity is the wrong decision? Answer - NONE!
The players have no idea because most of them arent up to it. Humphry B Bear wouldnt even make that mistake. Our players are dumb thats all!
Can tell you 100% , the players are told to do that.
They what the call structures ::)
Who gave you that info? A player, someone in the coaching staff , a trainer at a quarter or 3 quarter time huddle?
Tell me Jack I really want to know.
I don't believe it one bit. Please tell me mate.
I think it's the voices in his head.
LOL or that bloody magnet board boy. He has caused trouble in the past - FACT
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If no option kick long to the boundary. But before kicking make sure numbers in the area. Play the percentages. Players need to work harder to create options. Ruckman needs to go into defence to create a target. Laziness on the behalf of the person kicking out as well as laziness of the players on the field causing the problem. Can't just wait for someone else to do it.
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Look to see where the opposition ruckman is and kick it away from there.
Look to see how many RFC players are in the area and kick to a contest where we outnumber the opposition as well as where our better marking players and talls are.
If its a skill thing aim for the opposition jumper and they'll hit a teammate on the chest.
Could it be any simpler.
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They brought up our kick-in woes on 'One Week At A Time' tonight. Something like only one of our 11 kick-ins after half-time got out of defensive 50 successfully. They showed each one after the other too :P. The excuse given was it as typical of a bottom side with poor foot skills. Lack of precision to hit targets through a zone.
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Give you a tip. watch on the couch tomorrow night
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They brought up our kick-in woes on 'One Week At A Time' tonight. Something like only one of our 11 kick-ins after half-time got out of defensive 50 successfully. They showed each one after the other too :P. The excuse given was it as typical of a bottom side with poor foot skills. Lack of precision to hit targets through a zone.
thats correct but Jacko reckons its Hardwicks fault lol.
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They brought up our kick-in woes on 'One Week At A Time' tonight. Something like only one of our 11 kick-ins after half-time got out of defensive 50 successfully. They showed each one after the other too :P. The excuse given was it as typical of a bottom side with poor foot skills. Lack of precision to hit targets through a zone.
thats correct but Jacko reckons its Hardwicks fault lol.
Yes but Jacko reckons the swine flu, all other deseases, the economy, planes flying into the twin towers and just about every other disaster that has ever happened or will happen is Hardwicks fault too.. ;D
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Agree with Tuckerbag. Talls need to present themselves. Really work to make an option.
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Give you a tip. watch on the couch tomorrow night
Hope all you listened and watched the footage on "'on the couch tonight "'
Healy and BT were spot on ;)
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Give you a tip. watch on the couch tomorrow night
Hope all you listened and watched the footage on "'on the couch tonight "'
Healy and BT were spot on ;)
Thankyou captain obvious
No one is arguing that they aren't a problem, however for you to say that they are instructed to kick to the tallest opposition is what is absolute garbage.
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Give you a tip. watch on the couch tomorrow night
Hope all you listened and watched the footage on "'on the couch tonight "'
Healy and BT were spot on ;)
Thankyou captain obvious
No one is arguing that they aren't a problem, however for you to say that they are instructed to kick to the tallest opposition is what is absolute garbage.
I never SAID they were instructed to kick to the tallest oppositiom you F?KING CLOWN.
I said that the kicked to contests repeatedly and where the opposition ruckman were. I never said they were instructed to kick to opposition ruckman :banghead :banghead
Mate , your f/whit
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Give you a tip. watch on the couch tomorrow night
Hope all you listened and watched the footage on "'on the couch tonight "'
Healy and BT were spot on ;)
Thankyou captain obvious
No one is arguing that they aren't a problem, however for you to say that they are instructed to kick to the tallest opposition is what is absolute garbage.
I never SAID they were instructed to kick to the tallest oppositiom you F?KING CLOWN.
I said that the kicked to contests repeatedly and where the opposition ruckman were. I never said they were instructed to kick to opposition ruckman :banghead :banghead
Mate , your f/whit
You said it, not me
Hey , hold on,
Who is telling them to kick to the opposition ruckman 2 weeks in a row :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Mate, you know what I meant
You as so much an arse hole, I am deleting my account.
Sick of tired with dealing with f./whits who have no idea whats so ever
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Mate, you know what I meant
You as so much an behind hole, I am deleting my account.
Sick of tired with dealing with f./whits who have no idea whats so ever
WOO HOO!!!
Oh well, it will be good while it lasts.
Should we take bets on how long it takes for him to come back... again?
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:ROTFL
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Mate, you know what I meant
You as so much an behind hole, I am deleting my account.
Sick of tired with dealing with f./whits who have no idea whats so ever
See you soon. It IS frustrating to see the ball kicked in on top of the opposing ruckman's head, so something has to be done NOW.
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:clapping :clapping
He'll be back. He always is. ::)
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Hardwick's response in his EOTT report to the criticism of our kick-ins....
Our kick-ins also were a concern, particularly during the last quarter. I can assure you that we do have a specific plan with our kick-ins, but we simply went away from that.
It’s a similar sort of scenario to what I mentioned previously . . . when the heat gets turned up during a game, our guys, at the moment, are just a bit unsure of themselves.
When we take a mark from an opposition kick, inside our defensive-50 area, we’re quite efficient with our transition. From a kick-in situation, however, we seem to think the pressure is so much greater. Consequently, we don’t relax, and that’s when the mistakes creep in.
For a young group, composure is such an important word, but right now, when the heat’s on, our composure tends to go missing. Again, that’s something we’ve been addressing during the week . . . trying to get the guys to remain calm and just play the game naturally.
Full report here:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/ARCHIVEPAGES/SecureSignonTest/GreenbergsGrabs/tabid/15918/Default.aspx
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Back to the drawing board after tonight :P.
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no drawing board mate-give them psychological counselling or at very least stop captain inspiration-less from taking it.
There is never a time where he doesn't use the full clock before he kicks in.
As a supposed leader it gives others absolutely nothing to build on.
Wanker.
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no drawing board mate-gibe them pyschological counselling or at bery least stop captain inspiration-less from taking it.
There is never a yime where he doesn't use the full clock before he kicks in.
As a supposed leader it gives others absolurely nothing to build on.
Wanker.
agree we need to mix it up abit more sometimes hang on till umpire tells him to go then play on or kick it.
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as a captain it's sad
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No comment on the kick ins tonite, if you cant say something nice, dont say anything, so I aint
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No comment on the kick ins tonite, if you cant say something nice, dont say anything, so I aint
WTF I'm gobsmacked :thumbsup
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They're still bad, but getting better
Were much better last week than this week, although the same could be said about the entire game
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Popelord reckons our kickins have improved, he said none hit the boundry :lol
l thought it was 2008 again ;D
comments for Popelord below ;D
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To be fair to the player in the goalsquare looking for options, all he sees is a sea of players making no effort to provide something to kick to.
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Problem with the kick ins is this.
The person receiving the ball is way too close to to the actual square, thus its easier to get closed down by opposition , thus turnovers occurred.
Also you cant have players running into space to receive when already there are players there, there lies the problem.
Think about it
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One of the ones we stuffed up last night we got the idea right. Kicked it long to the 50m mark where Graham & Newman were in space.
Problem was Graham had the ideal sit but Newman went up as well and they fluffed it. Can't remember what the result was.
We need to kick to our talls on the 50m mark, not the oppositions
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We need to kick to our talls on the 50m mark, not the oppositions
True but Graham/Vickery will get done by Hille/Ryder or any other competition rucks most of the time in a marking contest. And our defensive talls are generally spoilers who give away a few inches.
Its that bad now that if nothings on just kick it 60 towards the boundary and instruct Gus to punch it over the boundary.
Having an experienced marking target like Richo leading from the wing would make a huge difference for this team.
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One of the ones we stuffed up last night we got the idea right. Kicked it long to the 50m mark where Graham & Newman were in space.
Problem was Graham had the ideal sit but Newman went up as well and they fluffed it. Can't remember what the result was.
We need to kick to our talls on the 50m mark, not the oppositions
good post & it stumbles me why we continue to kick short. Newman is the problem.
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We need to kick to our talls on the 50m mark, not the oppositions
True but Graham/Vickery will get done by Hille/Ryder or any other competition rucks most of the time in a marking contest. And our defensive talls are generally spoilers who give away a few inches.
Not really, the opposition will always move into a zone defence, so you can place your talls where you want really and they don't necessarily go up against a ruckman.
That's why I always like Neil Craig's strategy that you get your two best marking talls and have them sit near where the 50m line hits the boundary. There's usually only one opposition there as part of the zone and your talls should easily be able to ourmark the solitary defender.
Once you have it there, you only need a quick midfielder to be near by to receive the ball and with another long kick you will be over the defensive zone and on the fast break towards your forward line.