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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 22, 2010, 04:27:36 PM
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Cotch will be on One Week At A Time this Monday night with Quartermain, Walls and Darcy. Show starts at 7.30pm on ONE HD.
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what ya think they will talk about
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Hopefully about our first win for the season ;D :pray
If they are true to form though 90% of the questions will be about Cuz ...
What is it like being around Cuz?
What influence has Cuz had on your career?
Do you model yourself as a footballer on Cuz?
Will Cuz play on next year?
Did you see Cuz "sedate" Daniel Connors in that Sydney hotel?
What influence has Cuz's mate the burly man had on you being able to get into nightclubs without having to wait in a queue outside?
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Will Cuz play on next year?
most likely seeing how they made a few comments about his kicking going on him abit tonight.
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Bump.
A reminder Cotch in on the show tonight at 7.30pm.
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Bump.
A reminder Cotch in on the show tonight at 7.30pm.
Well then I better watch it for the very first time ;D
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RIPPED OFF!!!
Rodney Eade has replaced Cotchin as special guest due to the Hall controvery over the weekend
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Probably more relevant than having Cotch on. But I would of liked to have seen how he handled himself though, I haven't seen much of him in the
media...
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One incident they did highlight from our game was the free they paid to Jack before the very first bounce. Apparently he was slapping Pears' arm, as he'd come back from a broken bone, and the umpire pinged the retaliator.
This is the first time I knew what that free was for, as I was 150m from the action on the night. But Jack was definitely in the wrong on this occasion.
But boy, did they go on about it. And they didn't mention anything else about our game.
It just seems to me that they could have,no, should have mentioned the absolute armchair ride that the Bombers got from the umpires all night long. There was reams of footage they could have backed it up with too. But that's just typical of where we're at right at the moment. We're just copping it from all quarters (and Quartermain's :lol )
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RIPPED OFF!!!
Rodney Eade has replaced Cotchin as special guest due to the Hall controvery over the weekend
Bugger! :P
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One incident they did highlight from our game was the free they paid to Jack before the very first bounce. Apparently he was slapping Pears' arm, as he'd come back from a broken bone, and the umpire pinged the retaliator.
This is the first time I knew what that free was for, as I was 150m from the action on the night. But Jack was definitely in the wrong on this occasion.
But boy, did they go on about it. And they didn't mention anything else about our game.
It just seems to me that they could have,no, should have mentioned the absolute armchair ride that the Bombers got from the umpires all night long. There was reams of footage they could have backed it up with too. But that's just typical of where we're at right at the moment. We're just copping it from all quarters (and Quartermain's :lol )
Old-fashioned but if you walk over the chalk you class yourself as fit. How unsocialable by our Jack ;)
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Walls also brought up how small we are and listed everyone on our list 183cm and under (ie. under 6 ft). He called us "Tiny Tigers".
Newman (183), O'Reilly# (183), Webberley (181), Contin# (181), Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Nason (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), Hicks# (176), Roberts# (176), King (174)
Walls said our recruiters shouldn't draft anyone under 185cm for the next two years as we have more than enough smalls as is.
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Walls also brought up how small we are and listed everyone on our list 183cm and under (ie. under 6 ft). He called us "Tiny Tigers".
Newman (183), O'Reilly# (183), Webberley (181), Contin# (181), Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Nason (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), Hicks# (176), Roberts# (176), King (174)
Walls said our recruiters shouldn't draft anyone under 185cm for the next two years as we have more than enough smalls as is.
Would think that Walls is 100% correct
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Most of us have been pointing this out for a while. I am not sure why we would play so many smalls and leave Browne and Polak out. Mix it up for Gods sake it's the only way we will catch a side off and probably win.
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I agree as well :o.
I never understood why we went with 5 smalls as rookies rather than looking for talls and especially another ruckman ???.
Cuz (ret.), King and Whitey will probably get the axe at the end of the season.
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Walls is spot on about the height of our list, we are too small & frameless ;D
Them small players would only work if we were not turnover kings & ran in waves & hard running
Seeing we dont run in waves & dispose the ball the flat footed players too close that stuffs that plan up ;D
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I agree as well :o.
I never understood why we went with 5 smalls as rookies rather than looking for talls and especially another ruckman ???.
Cuz (ret.), King and Whitey will probably get the axe at the end of the season.
It's not so much the size for mine, although it is worrying when laid out like that, it's actually the fact that we play them all together. I suppose when Griffiths is right things may be different. For next week I would have Polak, Browne, Vickery and Graham in the side. Drop Farmer & King.
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Walls also brought up how small we are and listed everyone on our list 183cm and under (ie. under 6 ft). He called us "Tiny Tigers".
Newman (183), O'Reilly# (183), Webberley (181), Contin# (181), Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Nason (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), Hicks# (176), Roberts# (176), King (174)
Walls said our recruiters shouldn't draft anyone under 185cm for the next two years as we have more than enough smalls as is.
Seemed to work fine for Port Adelaide, seen their Premiership 22?
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Walls also brought up how small we are and listed everyone on our list 183cm and under (ie. under 6 ft). He called us "Tiny Tigers".
Newman (183), O'Reilly# (183), Webberley (181), Contin# (181), Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Nason (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), Hicks# (176), Roberts# (176), King (174)
Walls said our recruiters shouldn't draft anyone under 185cm for the next two years as we have more than enough smalls as is.
Seemed to work fine for Port Adelaide, seen their Premiership 22?
Times change though Infamy and not just that are our smalls as good as Ports GF side? I doubt it.
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Walls also brought up how small we are and listed everyone on our list 183cm and under (ie. under 6 ft). He called us "Tiny Tigers".
Newman (183), O'Reilly# (183), Webberley (181), Contin# (181), Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Nason (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), Hicks# (176), Roberts# (176), King (174)
Walls said our recruiters shouldn't draft anyone under 185cm for the next two years as we have more than enough smalls as is.
Seemed to work fine for Port Adelaide, seen their Premiership 22?
Times change though Infamy and not just that are our smalls as good as Ports GF side? I doubt it.
Yep size matters. Look at Geelong. I think they average 5kg per player over us :o. The best sides have physical presence. Even with Port in 2004 their smalls in Pickett, Dew, Carr and Roger James were solidly built (85-90kgs) and were physical both at the footy and opponent.
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Walls also brought up how small we are and listed everyone on our list 183cm and under (ie. under 6 ft). He called us "Tiny Tigers".
Newman (183), O'Reilly# (183), Webberley (181), Contin# (181), Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Nason (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), Hicks# (176), Roberts# (176), King (174)
Walls said our recruiters shouldn't draft anyone under 185cm for the next two years as we have more than enough smalls as is.
Seemed to work fine for Port Adelaide, seen their Premiership 22?
Compare either Burgoyne's skills to Jake King's.
Byron Pickett's to Mitch Farmer's.
Roger James to Robin Nahas
Josh Carr to Tom Hislop
Gavin Wanganeen to Adam Thompson
Damien Hardwick to Shane Edwards
Stuart Dew to Matt White
Skills Skills Skills Skills Skills Skills Skills Skills Skills Skills Skills Skills Skills Skills Skills Skills Skills
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Walls also brought up how small we are and listed everyone on our list 183cm and under (ie. under 6 ft). He called us "Tiny Tigers".
Newman (183), O'Reilly# (183), Webberley (181), Contin# (181), Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Nason (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), Hicks# (176), Roberts# (176), King (174)
Walls said our recruiters shouldn't draft anyone under 185cm for the next two years as we have more than enough smalls as is.
Seemed to work fine for Port Adelaide, seen their Premiership 22?
Times change though Infamy and not just that are our smalls as good as Ports GF side? I doubt it.
Quality is one thing, not sure what it has to do with height
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Walls also brought up how small we are and listed everyone on our list 183cm and under (ie. under 6 ft). He called us "Tiny Tigers".
Newman (183), O'Reilly# (183), Webberley (181), Contin# (181), Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Nason (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), Hicks# (176), Roberts# (176), King (174)
Walls said our recruiters shouldn't draft anyone under 185cm for the next two years as we have more than enough smalls as is.
Seemed to work fine for Port Adelaide, seen their Premiership 22?
Times change though Infamy and not just that are our smalls as good as Ports GF side? I doubt it.
Quality is one thing, not sure what it has to do with height
All I am saying is that the players Port had that were the same size as the players we have were way better. If our players that were mentioned as being too small were as good as the Port players of the same size we wouldn't be having this conversation. We have too many smalls that just arn't good enough in this side.
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Walls also brought up how small we are and listed everyone on our list 183cm and under (ie. under 6 ft). He called us "Tiny Tigers".
Newman (183), O'Reilly# (183), Webberley (181), Contin# (181), Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Nason (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), Hicks# (176), Roberts# (176), King (174)
Walls said our recruiters shouldn't draft anyone under 185cm for the next two years as we have more than enough smalls as is.
Seemed to work fine for Port Adelaide, seen their Premiership 22?
Times change though Infamy and not just that are our smalls as good as Ports GF side? I doubt it.
Quality is one thing, not sure what it has to do with height
All I am saying is that the players Port had that were the same size as the players we have were way better. If our players that were mentioned as being too small were as good as the Port players of the same size we wouldn't be having this conversation. We have too many smalls that just arn't good enough in this side.
I have no problem with that, however people aren't saying that we have too many poor quality smalls, just that we have too many smalls.
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Walls also brought up how small we are and listed everyone on our list 183cm and under (ie. under 6 ft). He called us "Tiny Tigers".
Newman (183), O'Reilly# (183), Webberley (181), Contin# (181), Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Nason (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), Hicks# (176), Roberts# (176), King (174)
Walls said our recruiters shouldn't draft anyone under 185cm for the next two years as we have more than enough smalls as is.
Seemed to work fine for Port Adelaide, seen their Premiership 22?
Times change though Infamy and not just that are our smalls as good as Ports GF side? I doubt it.
Quality is one thing, not sure what it has to do with height
All I am saying is that the players Port had that were the same size as the players we have were way better. If our players that were mentioned as being too small were as good as the Port players of the same size we wouldn't be having this conversation. We have too many smalls that just arn't good enough in this side.
I have no problem with that, however people aren't saying that we have too many poor quality smalls, just that we have too many smalls.
Yeah true they are, it's a pitty they don't break down each players quality or lack of quality and grade them on that.
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We have the shortest as well as lightest list in the AFL. You go to each game now and man-on-man we physically look smaller both in terms of height and body-size/strength. We have 12 guys 180cm or less with 5 out of our 8 rookies that size. That's just ridiculous. Carlton have 7 in total with one rookie that size. Essendon have 8 with 3 of them rookies. Melbourne have 8 as well all senior listed. Eagles 6 with 3 of them rookies.
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Walls also brought up how small we are and listed everyone on our list 183cm and under (ie. under 6 ft). He called us "Tiny Tigers".
Newman (183), O'Reilly# (183), Webberley (181), Contin# (181), Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Nason (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), Hicks# (176), Roberts# (176), King (174)
Walls said our recruiters shouldn't draft anyone under 185cm for the next two years as we have more than enough smalls as is.
good chance 5 of them wont be there next season and another 4 will be on thin ice the year after so i will right itself pretty quicksmart
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Walls also brought up how small we are and listed everyone on our list 183cm and under (ie. under 6 ft). He called us "Tiny Tigers".
Newman (183), O'Reilly# (183), Webberley (181), Contin# (181), Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Nason (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), Hicks# (176), Roberts# (176), King (174)
Walls said our recruiters shouldn't draft anyone under 185cm for the next two years as we have more than enough smalls as is.
Would think that Walls is 100% correct
Sounds like Walls is a mate of yours Jack.
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Walls also brought up how small we are and listed everyone on our list 183cm and under (ie. under 6 ft). He called us "Tiny Tigers".
Newman (183), O'Reilly# (183), Webberley (181), Contin# (181), Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Nason (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), Hicks# (176), Roberts# (176), King (174)
Walls said our recruiters shouldn't draft anyone under 185cm for the next two years as we have more than enough smalls as is.
Would think that Walls is 100% correct
Sounds like Walls is a mate of yours Jack.
Doesnt Walls hate the tiges after he was given the rs
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Walls also brought up how small we are and listed everyone on our list 183cm and under (ie. under 6 ft). He called us "Tiny Tigers".
Newman (183), O'Reilly# (183), Webberley (181), Contin# (181), Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Nason (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), Hicks# (176), Roberts# (176), King (174)
Walls said our recruiters shouldn't draft anyone under 185cm for the next two years as we have more than enough smalls as is.
Would think that Walls is 100% correct
Sounds like Walls is a mate of yours Jack.
Doesnt Walls hate the tiges after he was given the rs
They all hate us, right back to the biggest one of them all Tony Shaw, still dirty from the 1980 GF walloping!!. Frawley is the only one that I have heard lately that does not talk about us with contempt in his voice. BT does it, Healy does it, the list goes on. Wait for another year, Wallace will be back in the commentory position and he will be doing it.
Lets just hope we can start winning to shut these people up,.
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Cotch will be on One Week At A Time this Monday night 19th July with Quartermain, Walls and Darcy. Show now starts at 9.30pm on ONE HD.
This will make up for the cancelled appearance 8 weeks ago.
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Bump.
Cotch coming up shortly on the show.
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Summary
* Cotch said he's very disappointed with himself for letting the team down. Should have put an arm out to spoil to make it look not so bad.
* Darcy said if Cotch doesn't go hard he looks soft. The replay slows down the vision 1/20th of the speed but it's split second decision. The viewers can say oh you shouldn't have done that but only when you are out on the ground do you understand that it's a split second decision. The penalty of 3-4 weeks is way too harsh.
* Pratt defended Cotch today about the split second nature of the sport.
* Cotch said he enjoys being in the leadership group. Tough earlier on in the season. We're just sticking to the gameplan and structures. There's a consistent message from the coaching staff.
* Walls said it was Cuz's best game for the Tigers. Cotch said he was tough at the contest and running better across the ground. Learnt from him about workrate and team focus in terms of blocking. Provides a wealth of knowledge.
* He's doing a training session on Tuesdays now compared to earlier on in the season when he didn't train on Tuesdays. Does the main session and a couple of others each week now. So yeah the training workload has been able to be increased further into the season which makes training more enjoyable.
* Cotch said from the start of his career a goal was to be a one club player. Loyal to the club that gave you the opportunity.
* Jack has become more consistent over the past 6 months and is working harder. We didn't have a leader in the forward line so Jack has taken over that role. Now aware to Jack's popularity during the games and at kids' clinics. Plenty of #8s on the kids' backs. Lids is jealous lol. Just great we can gives the supporters something to get excited about later in the year.
* Wallace gave him a good opportunity to start his career. Hardwick has been good with the structures he has brought in. Gives you confidence to have a coach that believes in you.
* Yeah envious of the success same year draftees like Rioli and Selwood have had. Kreuzer as well - shame about his knee.
* Jack King - just loves the contest and being out there.
* Are you going to challenge the report? - yeah club will sit down and decide about challenging before 11am tomorrow. The club has a strict process about these things. Darcy said go for it.
* Cotch is off to the dentist tomorrow and not looking forward it.
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Cotch spoke well.
Great to hear Cotch say he wants to be a one-club man. I don't be believe he's alone with that view either amongst our young guns :thumbsup.
I agree with Darcy. Way too harsh to get 3-4 weeks for being a split-second late where no one got hurt.
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Great to hear we are contesting.
High contact should be thrown out at the minimum, what would 4 activation points mean?
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Great to hear we are contesting.
High contact should be thrown out at the minimum, what would 4 activation points mean?
We'll decide this morning whether to contest. 4 activation points I think means 2 weeks and one week if you accept an early plea.
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Cotchin, facing ban, says he's let the Tigers down
MARTIN BLAKE
July 20, 2010
RICHMOND midfielder Trent Cotchin says he has ''let the team down'' after the match review panel yesterday rocked the Tigers by suspending him for three matches for charging.
Cotchin, who today is expected to accept the MRP's offer of a three-match suspension on a guilty plea - as opposed to fighting the charge and risking a four-match suspension - said the suspension for a heavy bump on North Melbourne's Sam Wright had disappointed him.
''It's been a little bit flattening,'' he told One HD's One Week at a Time last night.
''It hasn't been the best Monday for the year and after a disappointing loss it hasn't been easy either. [I'm] very disappointed in myself, more so, I've let the team down.
''I probably needed to put the hand out to spoil, which probably would have made it look not as bad as it was.''
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/cotchin-facing-ban-says-hes-let-the-tigers-down-20100719-10ht0.html
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I agree with Darcy. Way too harsh to get 3-4 weeks for being a split-second late where no one got hurt.
LOL. What are you saying MT. The mild brain injury that Sam Wright suffered is not getting hurt. Footballers might have a rep as not being the sharpest tools in the shed (unfair in many cases) but it's a bit harsh to suggest that they don't need a fully functioning brain. ;D
Agree the penalty is too harsh. Pathetic system.
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I agree with Darcy. Way too harsh to get 3-4 weeks for being a split-second late where no one got hurt.
LOL. What are you saying MT. The mild brain injury that Sam Wright suffered is not getting hurt. Footballers might have a rep as not being the sharpest tools in the shed (unfair in many cases) but it's a bit harsh to suggest that they don't need a fully functioning brain. ;D
It wasn't the impact from Cotchin that gave him that injury though as he didn't touch his head. It was when Wright hit the ground that he hit his head.
If that argument let David Hookes killer walk away from manslaughter charges, then it should be enough to get Cotchin off
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The replay of Cotch's interview is on right now on ONE HD.
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This guy has put Cotch's interview on OWAAT up on the web:
http://vimeo.com/13475744 (http://vimeo.com/13475744)