One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 22, 2010, 06:45:04 PM
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Leppitsch on 3aw just now.....
* Competitive signs last couple of weeks. Let's hope we continue that trend tonight.
* 3aw saw us doing some rugby tackling drills. Leppitsch said we've been doing that over the past month. Leppitsch also said we've been doing technique work with our tackling.
* Richo said our kicking efficiency and tackling has improved the past two weeks. Leppitsch replied that's all about our ball movement. As our ball movement improves we will have more time and space to execute. The ball movement is still a fair way off.
* Richo asked who is tagging Watson with Jacko out but leppa wouldn't give an answer.
* Leppa impressed by Mitch Farmer. Said he was consistent without being outstanding. On the other hand Martin has showed the flashes of class. Tiger fans should be looking forward to see Griffiths come into the side as well.
* Nason - Leppa said he's never seen a workload like it when Nason was measured by GPS.
* Connolly said the spirit has been good even despite the few hidings. Leppa said we've got a good gameplan but it's going to take time to learn. There's 10 elements on offence/defence plus 10 team rules. So 20 rules in total they need to learn. That takes time. As coaches we see the little steps.
* Easiest rule to learn is competitiveness. Competitive focussed over the last month. Specific gameplan rules the hardest. Performing under the pressure, the moment is something that takes time to get use to.
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Maybe too many gameplan rules?
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hmm, 20 is a fair few...I would have thought more than 10 is pushing the envelope :-\
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I think we will find that most clubs have the same amount of rules etc... I am not sure this comment was on show last night though.
"3aw saw us doing some rugby tackling drills. Leppitsch said we've been doing that over the past month. Leppitsch also said we've been doing technique work with our tackling."
I definitely think our tackling has improved out of sight this year but I don't believe it was on show last night, I think our tackling was on Holiday with that tart forward pressure.
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20 rules are too many?
May as well pack up shop now if that really was the case
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I wouldn't think it is about the number of rules in place. I would even suggest that some of the "team rules" in place would automatically create the next rule
The key I would think is making sure we don't change them every 10 minutes.
I think previously they changed the rules (read gameplan) every bloody season and it didn't work
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20 rules for footy isn't that many at all. Sheesh they shouldn't be driving a car if a player can't remember just 20 rules.
5 offensive rules:
* Create space
* protect and support the ballcarrier - block and shepherd
* If not involved in stoppage spread from it to offer options.
* Play the corridor
* Go long to the hot spot if no free leading options with smalls front and square.
5 defensive rules
* Close down opposition's space.
* Man-on-man at stoppages
* Zone on their kick-in or whatever the tactical structure is.
* Apply pressure inside forward 50 to keep the ball in there.
* Be accountable to your man
10 team rules
* Team comes first. Everything you do must be to better the team's chances of scoring, defending and winning.
* Always talk to each other - "clear", "hot", "pick up so-and-so", etc
* Play in front
* Spoil and don't go for the mark from behind
* tackle don't bump.
* Pin both arms in tackle if outnumbered to cause a 50/50 stoppage; Pin one arm without the footy in tackle if we have the numbers to force a spill or a free kick to us
* No short kicks to a contest
* Kick in preference to handball
* Kick to advantage of your teammate
* Play on as much as possible to move the ball quickly. Play with intensity.
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Are they your 20 rules or the clubs MT?
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Are they your 20 rules or the clubs MT?
Mine as an example that 20 isn't that many and most are probably stuff we all learnt as kids growing up playing footy.
I think I'd get into trouble if I was told the actual 20 rules and posted them :shh
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20 rules for footy isn't that many at all. Sheesh they shouldn't be driving a car if a player can't remember just 20 rules.
5 offensive rules:
* Create space
* protect and support the ballcarrier - block and shepherd
* If not involved in stoppage spread from it to offer options.
* Play the corridor
* Go long to the hot spot if no free leading options with smalls front and square.
5 defensive rules
* Close down opposition's space.
* Man-on-man at stoppages
* Zone on their kick-in or whatever the tactical structure is.
* Apply pressure inside forward 50 to keep the ball in there.
* Be accountable to your man
10 team rules
* Team comes first. Everything you do must be to better the team's chances of scoring, defending and winning.
* Always talk to each other - "clear", "hot", "pick up so-and-so", etc
* Play in front
* Spoil and don't go for the mark from behind
* tackle don't bump.
* Pin both arms in tackle if outnumbered to cause a 50/50 stoppage; Pin one arm without the footy in tackle if we have the numbers to force a spill or a free kick to us
* No short kicks to a contest
* Kick in preference to handball
* Kick to advantage of your teammate
* Play on as much as possible to move the ball quickly. Play with intensity.
You would be very surprised
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I think I'd get into trouble if I was told the actual 20 rules and posted them :shh
You certainly would and you'd have to change your name ;) ;D
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Well if it isn't too many, why do are players have such a hard time following most of them?
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Well if it isn't too many, why do are players have such a hard time following most of them?
This must be coming from someone who has never played football at any level?
It takes a great deal of composure and team first attitude to follow team rules, something that being under constant attack in a competitive environment such as the AFL where players are rushed and thus can make the wrong decision and these players being the best players on their junior teams still thinking they have to do it all themselves to win have to adjust to and change their mentality and make consistently good decisions at the AFL level.
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Well if it isn't too many, why do are players have such a hard time following most of them?
Probably because either the concept of team rules, or the implementation of some of the rules, is just so foreign to some of the players. As much as indictment on previous coaching regimes as the players themselves.
Old habits die hard and for some it will take a while to adjust, particularly when under pressure. Some may never adjust - don't slam the door behind you fellas.
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Well if it isn't too many, why do are players have such a hard time following most of them?
I don't think it is simply just about following them it also about learning them
You have to remember for those who been around for a few years that everything they have done for the last 5 odd yerars has been thrown out the door and they are starting from scratch and they are learning things that are completely different. this is going to take time
As for the new kids coming in - they are learning about all facets of AFL from scratch as well, with AFL being very different from TAC Cup & other 2nd tier comps
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They displayed a stat on One Week At A Time that showed on the weekend we played on after mark as much as possible and it was the area we smashed North in. Obviously part of Dimma's gameplan and probably one of our 20 team rules Leppitsch talked about last year.
Marks Play-on
Richmond 105 50 48%
North 56 20 35%
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Those % are not what was displayed on screen
They showed Richmond at 48% and North at something like 35%
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Those % are not what was displayed on screen
They showed Richmond at 48% and North at something like 35%
Your recollection is better than mine Infamy. Not sure where I got 56 from :P. I'll edit my above post.
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Lids said on the Sunday Footy Show that we are aiming for 24 turnovers per game.
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To force 24 turnovers from the opposition, MT?
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To commit 24 turnovers?
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To force 24 turnovers from the opposition, MT?
OR
To commit 24 turnovers?
Last night it seemed the latter at times :lol
The former Muscles. To force 24 turnovers from the opposition.
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Sorry, OE, called you MT by mistake!.
Forcing 24 turnovers is a big ask - that's 6 each quarter. How many of those would we look to score from, do you think?
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Forcing 24 turnovers is a big ask - that's 6 each quarter. How many of those would we look to score from, do you think?
I guess it depends where the turnovers occur. Defensive side of the centre it would be about turning over the footy to prevent an opposition score and trying to hurt them on the rebound in transition while in our forward half you'd would hope we'd be aiming to score from every turnover especially inside forward 50. So on average maybe 50% = 3 scores per quarter. If accurate that's up to 12 goals from turnovers across the game.
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Not having access to the stats, I'd think that if we could consistently score six goals from turnovers in a game, we'd have to be reasonably competitive. Eight or more goals from turnovers would have to see us winning well.
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Not having access to the stats, I'd think that if we could consistently score six goals from turnovers in a game, we'd have to be reasonably competitive. Eight or more goals from turnovers would have to see us winning well.
That sounds about right Muscles. I would say they would look at the net differential. If you're on the plus side you are more likely to be winning the game. In the Eagles-Dees game on Thursday night it was 8 goals to nil from turnovers in the Eagles favour at one stage and they won in a canter.
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Oops I misheard what Lids said. The aim was 20 forward-half turnovers.
Deledio said it was Richmond's improved defensive pressure that had been the major reason why it had been able to compete with better sides.
"Damien, offensively, thinks we can play, but defensively is where we've struggled in the past," Deledio said on Sunday Footy Show.
"So we've had a real emphasis on laying those tackles and getting back in support of the defensive end.
"Damien said the goal was 20 forward-half turnovers and we achieved that. Contested footy is the biggest thing."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-midfielder-like-a-new-stuff/story-e6frf9jf-1226047957761