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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 22, 2010, 11:08:33 PM
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Fire away....
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Out-Vickery
Ins Anyone of 6ft 5ins who isnt scared and has got some idea ::)
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out nahas king vickery
in tambling connors browne
is connors suspension up yet , if not bring in relton
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Out - Vickory King
In Polak Tambling
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Out-Vickery
Ins Anyone of 6ft 5ins who isnt scared and has got some idea ::)
Oh we seen that pull out but you forgot to add Edwards as well.
Both players pulled out of the contest.
Bring up Browne
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Out Tryon , King
in Browne, Morton
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Out: Vickery, FARMER(never to play again), Nahas
IN: Browne, Post, Morton,
very lucky Nason. We cant afford too many midgets in the one side. Between him and Nahas its stuffin embrassing at times
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Out: Vickery, FARMER(never to play again), Nahas
IN: Browne, Post, Morton,
very lucky Nason. We cant afford too many midgets in the one side. Between him and Nahas its effin embrassing at times
Have to agree we are too many smalls, must add to our height & weight
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Out: Vickery, FARMER(never to play again), Nahas
IN: Browne, Post, Morton,
very lucky Nason. We cant afford too many midgets in the one side. Between him and Nahas its effin embrassing at times
Have to agree we are too many smalls, must add to our height & weight
if Dimma wants to be fair dinkum then he cant go on like this. Every stuffin week we play too small and bloody embrassing to be honest.
Im waiting for Nahas and Nason to one day yell out 'the plane the plane"
Seriously TM i looked up in the forward line at one stage and saw Farmer, Nahas, Jack, Nason and White. :banghead :banghead
Jack R must be thinking WTF am i doing at this club surrounded by these dwarfs.
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Out: Vickery, FARMER(never to play again), Nahas
IN: Browne, Post, Morton,
very lucky Nason. We cant afford too many midgets in the one side. Between him and Nahas its effin embrassing at times
Have to agree we are too many smalls, must add to our height & weight
if Dimma wants to be fair dinkum then he cant go on like this. Every effin week we play too small and bloody embrassing to be honest.
Im waiting for Nahas and Nason to one day yell out 'the plane the plane"
Seriously TM i looked up in the forward line at one stage and saw Farmer, Nahas, Jack, Nason and White. :banghead :banghead
Jack R must be thinking WTF am i doing at this club surrounded by these dwarfs.
Hardwick has got a poohouse list, theres nothing he can do for this season, next season when another 10 to 12 blokes have been given the arse and new draftees and recruits have come in we may see a bigger side. I agree we need to find bigger players.
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can tell you Richmond have been keeping close contact with Krak :lol they are seriously thinking of getting him back ;D stay tuned
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can tell you Richmond have been keeping close contact with Krak :lol they are seriously thinking of getting him back ;D stay tuned
if thats the case ill be convinced Hardwick will go down the same road as Leather face and Spud Frawley. That cant be true!!!!
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been on the cards before Hardwick arrived :shh Good fella is Krak
hope his put some weight on ;D
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Krak isn't an answer to any of our problems. Had enough spotlight on our club, let him be someone elses risk.
Vickery out, averaging 9 hitouts this year and not really offering much else
Farmer, wow get your improve on champ!!
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Out: Vickery (rest), Farmer (susp), Nahas (poor game and selfish snap OOTF at the end when Astbury was wide open 20m directly in front)
In: Browne, Tambling if fit enough & ..... dunno, depends on matchups, Polo, Polak or Collins I guess
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OUT:McGuane - The sooner we get rid of this hack the better. I don't care if Post isn't pulling up trees at Coburg. Bring him in.
OUT: Farmer - This season's Thomson and Hislop rolled into one, if you know what I mean. Bring back Dea.
OUT: King - Was he even out there last night? Or is he just so small and ineffectual you can't even see him?? Maybe Collins in.
OUT: Cousins - I hate to say this but he's DONE. Slower than a dry summer (hey, there's no such things as wet weeks anymore :lol), and can't kick over a witches hat. IN: Oh, just bite the bullet and bring Connors back. We need to be able to put Lids back into the midfield again!!
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Oh Yeah, one last thing I almost forgot:
We need to stuff Griffiths into the forward line ASAP.
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been on the cards before Hardwick arrived :shh Good fella is Krak
hope his put some weight on ;D
i heard krak is heading for gc17 but i hope we et him back, he is killing it in wa and is now fitter stronger and wiser and still has that class factor. he had the best touch and feel for the ball in our team, just never got near it enough.
would be a great story if we got him back and he kicked arse
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been on the cards before Hardwick arrived :shh Good fella is Krak
hope his put some weight on ;D
i heard krak is heading for gc17 but i hope we et him back, he is killing it in wa and is now fitter stronger and wiser and still has that class factor. he had the best touch and feel for the ball in our team, just never got near it enough.
would be a great story if we got him back and he kicked behind
I was watching the Vics vs: Wa game on the ABC yesterday, and when asked to summarise Krakouer's game, the commentator said, "he had 21 touches, but I don't think he had any real impact on the game."
That pretty much summarises his time at Richmond too, except I don't recall him having 21 touches in too many games. He was another 100 game "cameo player" like somebody else who should be going to the Gold Coast at the end of the year too.
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I would give Polak one last go in the forward line until young Griffiths is ready to go.
Million dollar question is what to do with Cousins.
Sad but I think he has to go back to Coburg and find some touch.
Cuz is reminding me of Cogs last year.
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OUT: Farmer - This season's Thomson and Hislop rolled into one, if you know what I mean. Bring back Dea.
Dea aint going to happen - out for another couple of weeks with the hot spot in his foot. Was only due to take the moon boot off last week
Anyway....
INS: BrownE, Polo, Hislop, Polak
OUTS: Vickery (deplorable last evening), Nahas (see Vickery), King, Farmer (susp)
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In Polak. Out White
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Polak should definentely be an in.
Farmer will be suspended.
One of King and Nahas should be omitted also. I am leaning towards Nahas was very unproductive and selfish last night. That out on the full in the last minute was diabolical. Would have been nice to get to 100 points.
Possibly Morton or Postie? :-\
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should Nahas be tried down back on the opposition slippery pricks
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should Nahas be tried down back on the opposition slippery pricks
No way not a defensive bone in his body will be murdered by the slippery eels like Milne and others of his ilk. Would make blokes like Leon Davis look good.
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OUT: Farmer - This season's Thomson and Hislop rolled into one, if you know what I mean. Bring back Dea.
Dea aint going to happen - out for another couple of weeks with the hot spot in his foot. Was only due to take the moon boot off last week
Anyway....
INS: BrownE, Polo, Hislop, Polak
OUTS: Vickery (deplorable last evening), Nahas (see Vickery), King, Farmer (susp)
Why Polo WP.... :lol, really though I thought Thompson was better than him last week and has he done something lately to earn a spot.... just asking... don't shoot me..... ;)
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can tell you Richmond have been keeping close contact with Krak :lol they are seriously thinking of getting him back ;D stay tuned
would be the most disgraceful decision possible. the equivalent of Wallaces Kent Kingsley move. Just disgraceful and not on! If Hardwick allows this to happen then that will have been his first major mistake, and the supporters will then have every right to go after him and his coaching job. Its not on!
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should Nahas be tried down back on the opposition slippery pricks
hahaha ive heard it all now. Might as well try Nason in the ruck too & King at FF
you serious? surely not
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should Nahas be tried down back on the opposition slippery pricks
No way not a defensive bone in his body will be murdered by the slippery eels like Milne and others of his ilk. Would make blokes like Leon Davis look good.
Dunno about not having a defensive bone in his body Tucker. When his head is right he puts good defensive pressure on in the forward line.
To beat a small fast player, you need a small fast player. To me the question mark would be on his footy smarts.
should Nahas be tried down back on the opposition slippery pricks
hahaha ive heard it all now. Might as well try Nason in the ruck too & King at FF
you serious? surely no
Ok I'll bite.
Not too sure how playing a <6ft player on the opposition <6ft player is the same as playing a <6ft player in the ruck or at full forward. ???
whats the punchline?
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He is a selfish type of player and if it benefits him by kicking a goal or too he'll tackle and harass. He just does not show those characteristics outside of the forward 50. Case in point the bit of play in the last minute last night. Knew he had a horrid game and could have set up Astbury for a certain goal but sprayed it. It's okay to be selfish when you are a forward but when we are trying to develop a winning formula up forward and a team first attitude that helps us win games.
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King was deplorable. Left his player to run off frequently and was useless in any zone formation. Was the worst player on the field. Must be just warming the spot for Connors and/or Dea. Will be interesting to see if Hardwick moves Lids back into the middle when Connors returns or leaves him in the backline, along with Connors and Newman to give us better desposal/ability to move the ball by foot forward.
Vickery may need a few games in the reserves. In a team with better rucks, he would be given the licence to develop (especially in size) in the VFL. Given the state of our rucks we have been forced to try and fast track him in the big league. I would rather bring Browne in and see whether he steps ups and similtaneously allow the 19 year old time to regain his confidence playing against smaller/less capable rucks in the 2nds.
If Farmer is suspended we may need to bring Polo back in. There is no other choice to fufill the small defender role that I can think of.
Stripes
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He is a selfish type of player and if it benefits him by kicking a goal or too he'll tackle and harass. He just does not show those characteristics outside of the forward 50. Case in point the bit of play in the last minute last night. Knew he had a horrid game and could have set up Astbury for a certain goal but sprayed it. It's okay to be selfish when you are a forward but when we are trying to develop a winning formula up forward and a team first attitude that helps us win games.
fair enough, hard to argue against that.
sometimes it can be good to put a player out their comfort zone and see how they respond.
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He is a selfish type of player and if it benefits him by kicking a goal or too he'll tackle and harass. He just does not show those characteristics outside of the forward 50. Case in point the bit of play in the last minute last night. Knew he had a horrid game and could have set up Astbury for a certain goal but sprayed it. It's okay to be selfish when you are a forward but when we are trying to develop a winning formula up forward and a team first attitude that helps us win games.
fair enough, hard to argue against that.
sometimes it can be good to put a player out their comfort zone and see how they respond.
Just for the record Al I agree with the principle with where we are at to experiment and put a player out of their comfort zone to see if they can play in a different situation but to me Nahas is not one to go back and his small stature will result in Jake King type mismatches also IMO. Furthermore he has been lost at sea also in the midfield when put there this season. Robin is a specialist if I can use that term fwd 50 type player only. As is Steven Milne at St Kilda.
Edwards was a smallish forward who looks okay in the backline atm. That experiment has worked somewhat and Shane is our most improved players so far this year.
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Why Polo WP.... :lol, really though I thought Thompson was better than him last week and has he done something lately to earn a spot.... just asking... don't shoot me..... ;)
Well one would hope that Thomson was better than Polo last week as Thomson played and Polo didn't - he was out suspended ;D
Just think we need some experience down back and he has had some good results against Ebert and K Cornes :thumbsup
Also with no Jackson we need a run with tagger and Polo plays that role very well
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Out:
Cousins - Waste Of Time!
Edwards - small, weak, W.O.T!
Farmer - what is he meant to be Hardwick? forward, back? can't kick!
Rance - see Farmer.
King - why bother? however his long kicking was very good!
In:
Griffiths, Morton, Tambling, Polo, Collins
Team:
Newman, Thursfield, Moore
Webberley, McGuane, Polo
White, Deledio, Collins
Morton, Astbury, Tambling
Riewoldt, Griffiths, Nahas
Graham, Martin, Cotchin
Tuck, Foley, Vickery, Nason
:)
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Why Polo WP.... :lol, really though I thought Thompson was better than him last week and has he done something lately to earn a spot.... just asking... don't shoot me..... ;)
Well one would hope that Thomson was better than Polo last week as Thomson played and Polo didn't - he was out suspended ;D
Just think we need some experience down back and he has had some good results against Ebert and K Cornes :thumbsup
Also with no Jackson we need a run with tagger and Polo plays that role very well
Oh thats right, sorry, forgot he was suspended. He will probably replace Farmer then, lets just hope he can get it together.
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Out:
Cousins - Waste Of Time!
Edwards - small, weak, W.O.T!
Farmer - what is he meant to be Hardwick? forward, back? can't kick!
Rance - see Farmer.
King - why bother? however his long kicking was very good!
In:
Griffiths, Morton, Tambling, Polo, Collins
Team:
Newman, Thursfield, Moore
Webberley, McGuane, Polo
White, Deledio, Collins
Morton, Astbury, Tambling
Riewoldt, Griffiths, Nahas
Graham, Martin, Cotchin
Tuck, Foley, Vickery, Nason
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Torch, what is going on mate, Edwards was my whipping boy until he proved me wrong and he has done that now for the last 5-6 weeks so I can't agree with your comments regarding him.
Why would you also bring in and injured player, Griffiths?????
Morton and Collins have done nothing with Coburg to warrent a re-call either. Cousins will get going once the players around him improve and work harder and he has some game time.
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Edwards - small, weak, W.O.T!
WTF were you watching?
Shut Stanton out of the game pretty well and was pretty handy offensively himself.
He's going no where. One of the "midgets" who belongs in the team :thumbsup
If you want to drop another midget there is a bloke called Nahas who was hopeless.
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Out: Vickery, FARMER(never to play again), Nahas
IN: Browne, Post, Morton,
very lucky Nason. We cant afford too many midgets in the one side. Between him and Nahas its effin embrassing at times
Have to agree we are too many smalls, must add to our height & weight
if Dimma wants to be fair dinkum then he cant go on like this. Every effin week we play too small and bloody embrassing to be honest.
Im waiting for Nahas and Nason to one day yell out 'the plane the plane"
Seriously TM i looked up in the forward line at one stage and saw Farmer, Nahas, Jack, Nason and White. :banghead :banghead
Jack R must be thinking WTF am i doing at this club surrounded by these dwarfs.
:ROTFL :ROTFL
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at this stage of the week i reckon we need to focus on the obvious.
its obvious to me we cannot go into games and expect to be at least competetive with so many runts in the team. runts in the main who lack the required polish so to speak. the small players we went with this week include. nason, webberley, white, king, nahas, farmer, cousins,edwards, and foley. to me king white nahas have to go. farmer will be suspended. cuz is really struggling but may be better for the run.
get the structure and size balance right and play as many skillful good kicks as possible with this in mind.
also we need to look at our rotation process concerning kids. we have a few who have had good blocks of games and are now struggling. time to send em back to coburg for confidence. in particular the one this applies to is vickery. drop him back and just add a like player in browne who can do with some exposure for a short stint or block of games.
atm i would be looking at something like this.
b; newman- thursfield - moore.
hb; deledio - mcguane - webberley.
c; cotchin - martin - edwards.
hf; nason - riewoldt - collins.
f; astbury - polak -
r; graham - tuck - foley
int; browne, polo, cuz, and either thomson a mid or a tall in post/rance.
outs would be. king, white, vickery farmer nahas.
ins would be browne, polak, polo, collins thomson.
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RICHMOND - In the Mix
The Tigers took an unchanged lineup into the game against Essendon, but don't expect that this time around. Ty Vickery could do with a run in the VFL to stop his developing body being smashed in the ruck and he could be replaced by either Andrew Browne or Troy Simmonds. Graham Polak hasn't kicked a goal in either of his two matches, but the lack of a VFL match makes it hard for the likes of Ben Griffiths to push their case.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/94998/default.aspx
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Well this shouold help us out.... Motlop suspended.. ;D, he usually tears us another one.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/port-adelaide-suspends-daniel-motlop-stuff/story-e6frf9jf-1225871259850
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Well this shouold help us out.... Motlop suspended.. ;D, he usually tears us another one.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/port-adelaide-suspends-daniel-motlop-stuff/story-e6frf9jf-1225871259850
We might have been better off with him playing. From what I saw in the replay he was terrible and looked very disinterested and distracted. Would have left them carrying a passenger with his current attitude. :-\
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Well this shouold help us out.... Motlop suspended.. ;D, he usually tears us another one.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/port-adelaide-suspends-daniel-motlop-stuff/story-e6frf9jf-1225871259850
We might have been better off with him playing. From what I saw in the replay he was terrible and looked very disinterested and distracted. Would have left them carrying a passenger with his current attitude. :-\
Yeah either that or we could have played him into form like we have been doing a bit lately with teams and players from oppositions. Look at the Hawks.. :-\
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Out: Farmer, King, Cousins (done)
In: Polo, Morton, Browne
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Out: Farmer, King, Cousins (done)
In: Polo, Morton, Browne
Browne I agree with, but have Morton and Polo really done enough, I would play Polak and Thompson instead. But I think you may be more on the money.
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Glad Motlop out. Agree has been a thorn in our side in the past