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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 27, 2010, 12:22:32 AM
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Young stars free game
Jackie Epstein
Herald Sun
May 27, 2010
GREATER Western Sydney coach Kevin Sheedy says he has an obligation to lure young stars like Richmond's Dustin Martin to his club.
Sheedy said it was hypocritical of clubs to expect him not to chase the best young talent if they are off contract.
He said clubs have been signing the best teenagers from New South Wales on scholarships for years and should not complain now as he tries to build a list for the AFL's newest club.
"They've had first lick of the bowl so don't come whingeing and complaining about your kids," he said.
"We're getting the leftovers.
"He (Martin) would definitely be on a list you'd have to consider. If we don't, someone else will. We're within our rights and within the rules of what we've been told, to go after him.
"Don't get carried away with what we're offering (money wise). It's all about building a club and a team.
"I've said before that if you're unhappy at your club or wish to move don't re-sign (with your current club)."
It is believed Martin, 18, could reap $800,000 a season in a three-year deal at GWS.
Richmond president Gary March said clubs needed protection from losing players who had been taken with high draft picks.
March, whose club has already opened negotiations with Martin, said he was disappointed the expansion clubs were targeting first and second-year players.
"Richmond is in the big ball game now and for a long time any player off contract has been fair game," Sheedy said.
"Clubs have been into our 17-year-olds and telling them not to sign with us.
"So Brendon Gale said the Tigers didn't need help and the president is saying they do.
"Chief executive and president saying different things - sounds like Richmond."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/young-stars-free-game/story-e6frf9ix-1225871761745
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Martin is 6 months into a 2 year contract. I'd like to know from Sheedy his definition of "off contract".
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"Chief executive and president saying different things - sounds like Richmond."
GO AWAY KEVIN, the game has past you by and you can't handle it, get a fishing rod you bitter and twisted man. Your just peeed because we didn't even want to interview you!!
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Would be happy for the RFC to strip Sheedy of his Hall of Fame status
The guy really has a vendetta against us. If he wants to be that spiteful against us then its time to wipe him from the RFC record books.
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Yeah he was all over us when he was our Ambassador or whatever he was, then in the lime light to "get Cuz" and then the rejection and now now the turncoat. Will the real Kevin Sheedy please stand up or don't you have the guts!!
Favourite saying of mine: "runs with the hares and hunts with the hounds", thats Sheedy IMO!!
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still waiting for jack to come and defend sheedy, like he always does.
Been a bit quiet on this one eh jack? :whistle :whistle :shh :thumbsup :sleep :cheers
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still waiting for jack to come and defend sheedy, like he always does.
Been a bit quiet on this one eh jack? :whistle :whistle :shh :thumbsup :sleep :cheers
Its amazing how so many people want to slag Sheeds. :banghead
Remembering he instigated getting Cousins to Punt Rd which in turn boosted membership through the roof.
If and I say if Martin leaves Punt Rd, its RFC fault and nobody elses.
Grow up people
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still waiting for jack to come and defend sheedy, like he always does.
Been a bit quiet on this one eh jack? :whistle :whistle :shh :thumbsup :sleep :cheers
Its amazing how so many people want to slag Sheeds. :banghead
Remembering he instigated getting Cousins to Punt Rd which in turn boosted membership through the roof.
If and I say if Martin leaves Punt Rd, its RFC fault and nobody elses.
Grow up people
No Jack i believe you are wrong! Sometimes players leave purely for money(read-'greed')! And that is not the clubs fault. I don't think Dusty will leave as he seems to be well grounded and have the right supports in place here such as his father!
Kevin Sheedy has turned against the Tigers and he is taking it personally that he was not placed above the selection process when we were looking for a new coach!
I have lost massive amounts of respect for Sheeds!
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Its amazing how so many people want to slag Sheeds. :banghead
Remembering he instigated getting Cousins to Punt Rd which in turn boosted membership through the roof.
:clapping without fail knew you'd bring out that old chestnut.
And I will keep asking you time and time again - who told you that Sheeds? One count 'em ONE phone call doesn't equate to instigating. Having spoken to someone who would actually know what happened (throw in one od these ;) for good measure) You may just find that the Sheeds version of events has been twisted to suit a purpose HIS
SHeeds had no problems taking his big fat pay cheque from the CLub last year. And when he was faced with having to go through the same process as every other person for the coaching job rather than have it handed to him on platter he spat the dummy, walked and has been sniping ever since.
Poor form from a very bitter man who seems to believe he is more important to the RFC than he actually is but hey isn't he isn't alone there
If and I say if Martin leaves Punt Rd, its RFC fault and nobody elses.
You are kidding right?
And i say if Martin does leave (which I will repeat he WONT be) then there will be alot of people to blame (read said player and manager for a start) but you can stick to just blaming the Club
Grow up people
Great idea :P
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Its amazing how so many people want to slag Sheeds. :banghead
Remembering he instigated getting Cousins to Punt Rd which in turn boosted membership through the roof.
:clapping without fail knew you'd bring out that old chestnut.
And I will keep asking you time and time again - who told you that Sheeds? One count 'em ONE phone call doesn't equate to instigating. Having spoken to someone who would actually know what happened (throw in one od these ;) for good measure) You may just find that the Sheeds version of events has been twisted to suit a purpose HIS
SHeeds had no problems taking his big fat pay cheque from the CLub last year. And when he was faced with having to go through the same process as every other person for the coaching job rather than have it handed to him on platter he spat the dummy, walked and has been sniping ever since.
Poor form from a very bitter man who seems to believe he is more important to the RFC than he actually is but hey isn't he isn't alone there
If and I say if Martin leaves Punt Rd, its RFC fault and nobody elses.
You are kidding right?
And i say if Martin does leave (which I will repeat he WONT be) then there will be alot of people to blame (read said player and manager for a start) but you can stick to just blaming the Club
Grow up people
Great idea :P
Facts of the matter are this.
And sorry for bringing up this old chesnut.
K. Sheedy flew to Perth and met with Ben dads and with Ben and discussed him return to football via RFC.
Terry Wallace and Gary March were not keen on the idea so Kevin rightfully or wrongfully canvassed other aspects of the RFC for the return to football for Ben.
Sheeds paid for the trip and had nothing to do directly with the RFC ( at the time )
Lets dont let the truth get in the road of a good story as you tell it.
Also you say that Sheeds got a big fat pay check??
K. Sheedy doesnt need the money, its has nothing to do with money with Kevin
Jamie.
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Well if Kevin doesnt need the money then why spruik about him paying for his own airfare?
Sheeds is peeved at Richmond cos we did not bow to his pressure and break the process for him as he is incapable of standing up to the rigours of modern day interviewing for coaching positions! Today you game plans, people management skills, structural visions, football visions, mission statements etc. and i believe he could not provide them. Lets remember he missed out on the Melbourne job too!
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leaving all the sheedy talk aside it is worrying that it appears CEO and Pres are not on the same page on this,it just ever so slightly adds weight to that image of RFC as not a truly professional organisation....this to me is at the heart of what is wrong with RFC
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If we've had "the first lick of the bowl" as you so eloquently put it Kevin, then tell me exactly what good it does us if you come along and take the food right out of our mouth before we even get a chance to swallow it (to continue your metaphor)
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leaving all the sheedy talk aside it is worrying that it appears CEO and Pres are not on the same page on this,it just ever so slightly adds weight to that image of RFC as not a truly professional organisation....this to me is at the heart of what is wrong with RFC
that line got lost in the whole article.
It just goes back to March being our president.
I dont think he is the man to take us forward to be honest.
Look what these kind of things have done to a club like Hawthorn this year. This club needs everyone on the same page
as for Sheeds well he can suck on my left one for all i care
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Its amazing how so many people want to slag Sheeds. :banghead
Remembering he instigated getting Cousins to Punt Rd which in turn boosted membership through the roof.
:clapping without fail knew you'd bring out that old chestnut.
And I will keep asking you time and time again - who told you that Sheeds? One count 'em ONE phone call doesn't equate to instigating. Having spoken to someone who would actually know what happened (throw in one od these ;) for good measure) You may just find that the Sheeds version of events has been twisted to suit a purpose HIS
SHeeds had no problems taking his big fat pay cheque from the CLub last year. And when he was faced with having to go through the same process as every other person for the coaching job rather than have it handed to him on platter he spat the dummy, walked and has been sniping ever since.
Poor form from a very bitter man who seems to believe he is more important to the RFC than he actually is but hey isn't he isn't alone there
If and I say if Martin leaves Punt Rd, its RFC fault and nobody elses.
You are kidding right?
And i say if Martin does leave (which I will repeat he WONT be) then there will be alot of people to blame (read said player and manager for a start) but you can stick to just blaming the Club
Grow up people
Great idea :P
Facts of the matter are this.
And sorry for bringing up this old chesnut.
K. Sheedy flew to Perth and met with Ben dads and with Ben and discussed him return to football via RFC.
Terry Wallace and Gary March were not keen on the idea so Kevin rightfully or wrongfully canvassed other aspects of the RFC for the return to football for Ben.
Sheeds paid for the trip and had nothing to do directly with the RFC ( at the time )
Lets dont let the truth get in the road of a good story as you tell it.
Also you say that Sheeds got a big fat pay check??
K. Sheedy doesnt need the money, its has nothing to do with money with Kevin
Jamie.
fact is
kevin sheedy has lost all his credibility as a tiger
doesnt care about the tigers and never did since the day he left.
He would love to shaft all other clubs especially richmond by snaring martin, unfortunately for him, it wont happen.
The senile old fart wont even get to coach GWS, he is being used as a marketing man and he doesnt even realise that yet.
Its hilarious to watch
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Facts of the matter are this.
And I will ask again who's facts are they exactly?
K. Sheedy flew to Perth and met with Ben dads and with Ben and discussed him return to football via RFC.
Yes Sheedy did go to Perth but you are making it sound that Sheeds went to Perth specifically to see Cousins - this is not true and Sheeds (yes the great man himself) has said that wasn't the only reason he went to Perth on that trip
Yes on that trip he met with Brian Cousins
Terry Wallace and Gary March were not keen on the idea so Kevin rightfully or wrongfully canvassed other aspects of the RFC for the return to football for Ben.
And you got this gem from who exactly? "Other aspects" that's very funny. But what ever
Sheeds paid for the trip and had nothing to do directly with the RFC ( at the time )
Who cares who paid - as Ii said the great man himself said that he didn't go there solely to meet with Cousins and he wasn't on RFC business so I think it is fair to assume that some one else other than the RFC had to pay ::)
Lets dont let the truth get in the road of a good story as you tell it.
I will repeat I spoke to some one who should know what happened and I believe them. And their version of events carries far more weight than the version that the media and Sheeds want people to believe.
Also you say that Sheeds got a big fat pay check??
K. Sheedy doesnt need the money, its has nothing to do with money with Kevin
Well are you suggesting he came back to the RFC last year and did all these things for the pleasure of it.
FACT is he got paid and paid very well for what he did. He may not need the $$$$ but that certainly didn't stop him from taking the $$$$ he wanted
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leaving all the sheedy talk aside it is worrying that it appears CEO and Pres are not on the same page on this,it just ever so slightly adds weight to that image of RFC as not a truly professional organisation....this to me is at the heart of what is wrong with RFC
Sorry Gigantor, but your reply is just the sort of thing that Sheeds wants
I can assure you there are on the same page
Benny has said we (the RFC) are not going to ask for concessions
March has said the current criteria is not fair for ALL clubs and other clubs agree. He did not say the Club is going to ask for concessions
To me it is media spin
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Sheedy can derelict my balls. He is a bitter and twisted old cumudgeon who thought he could walk in like the second coming and have the mayoral robes bestowed upon him. When he found he had to actually explain himself and sell his plan like every other bastard he took it as an insult and that his jedi waving of the hand should of been enough to insert this knowledge into our heads. To continue acting like a bitch and single us out for spite in the media is stuffing unprofessional and pathetic...if his administration allows him to throw buckets of cash at our juniors in order to fulfill his twisted sense of revenge then spank my ass red and call me a baboon.
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Hasn't sheeds and GWS broken rules regarding making offers to players under contract.
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Martin is 6 months into a 2 year contract. I'd like to know from Sheedy his definition of "off contract".
this is what i dont understand and dont understand why that demetriou prick dosnt do something about it
so makes me think, the afl want us out and north melb out
gold coast kangaroos and the western sydney tigers are one the afl.s agenda
sheedy demetriou the lot of them are all *.....!!!!!l
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Hasn't sheeds and GWS broken rules regarding making offers to players under contract.
yes but according to demetriou its ok, cos its all to screw richmond, would not happen if it was collingwood
that bastard can get stuffed
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I can assure you there are on the same page
ok Wp i believe you..your knowledge i'm sure is far greater than mine on such issue
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surely being cypriot has got nothing to do with all this...can we ease up on this....please
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LOL @ X !
YEAH THats wot we need some Phuqin Passion round dis phuqin joint!
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Facts of the matter are this.
And I will ask again who's facts are they exactly?
K. Sheedy flew to Perth and met with Ben dads and with Ben and discussed him return to football via RFC.
Yes Sheedy did go to Perth but you are making it sound that Sheeds went to Perth specifically to see Cousins - this is not true and Sheeds (yes the great man himself) has said that wasn't the only reason he went to Perth on that trip
Yes on that trip he met with Brian Cousins
Terry Wallace and Gary March were not keen on the idea so Kevin rightfully or wrongfully canvassed other aspects of the RFC for the return to football for Ben.
And you got this gem from who exactly? "Other aspects" that's very funny. But what ever
Sheeds paid for the trip and had nothing to do directly with the RFC ( at the time )
Who cares who paid - as Ii said the great man himself said that he didn't go there solely to meet with Cousins and he wasn't on RFC business so I think it is fair to assume that some one else other than the RFC had to pay ::)
Lets dont let the truth get in the road of a good story as you tell it.
I will repeat I spoke to some one who should know what happened and I believe them. And their version of events carries far more weight than the version that the media and Sheeds want people to believe.
Also you say that Sheeds got a big fat pay check??
K. Sheedy doesnt need the money, its has nothing to do with money with Kevin
Well are you suggesting he came back to the RFC last year and did all these things for the pleasure of it.
FACT is he got paid and paid very well for what he did. He may not need the $$$$ but that certainly didn't stop him from taking the $$$$ he wanted
I really dont need to exlain myself, do I ?
Move on shell we, and stop getting your knickers in a not.
What I post is not my opinions, it is of actual events.
Also , there is a bit of disharmony down there between Gale , March and Cameron, they all play the political game.
My bets are on Gale, :thumbsup
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Facts of the matter are this.
And I will ask again who's facts are they exactly?
K. Sheedy flew to Perth and met with Ben dads and with Ben and discussed him return to football via RFC.
Yes Sheedy did go to Perth but you are making it sound that Sheeds went to Perth specifically to see Cousins - this is not true and Sheeds (yes the great man himself) has said that wasn't the only reason he went to Perth on that trip
Yes on that trip he met with Brian Cousins
Terry Wallace and Gary March were not keen on the idea so Kevin rightfully or wrongfully canvassed other aspects of the RFC for the return to football for Ben.
And you got this gem from who exactly? "Other aspects" that's very funny. But what ever
Sheeds paid for the trip and had nothing to do directly with the RFC ( at the time )
Who cares who paid - as Ii said the great man himself said that he didn't go there solely to meet with Cousins and he wasn't on RFC business so I think it is fair to assume that some one else other than the RFC had to pay ::)
Lets dont let the truth get in the road of a good story as you tell it.
I will repeat I spoke to some one who should know what happened and I believe them. And their version of events carries far more weight than the version that the media and Sheeds want people to believe.
Also you say that Sheeds got a big fat pay check??
K. Sheedy doesnt need the money, its has nothing to do with money with Kevin
Well are you suggesting he came back to the RFC last year and did all these things for the pleasure of it.
FACT is he got paid and paid very well for what he did. He may not need the $$$$ but that certainly didn't stop him from taking the $$$$ he wanted
I really dont need to exlain myself, do I ?
Move on shell we, and stop getting your knickers in a not.
What I post is not my opinions, it is of actual events.
Also , there is a bit of disharmony down there between Gale , March and Cameron, they all play the political game.
My bets are on Gale, :thumbsup
I will give you a fact
You have no idea, and that fact has been proven time and time again.
How you can defend sheedy after the way he is behaving in his attempts to sabotage richmond are just beyond me.
He is a disgrace but then again, so are you
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From what I understand - Gale was refering to assitance with draft picks AND March was refering to the poaching of 1st year players.
Sheedy is probably doing us a favour by making it public as if he really wanted to vindictive he would have tried do it through the back door. -Anyone know how it really got out?
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leaving all the sheedy talk aside it is worrying that it appears CEO and Pres are not on the same page on this,it just ever so slightly adds weight to that image of RFC as not a truly professional organisation....this to me is at the heart of what is wrong with RFC
Sorry Gigantor, but your reply is just the sort of thing that Sheeds wants
I can assure you there are on the same page
Benny has said we (the RFC) are not going to ask for concessions
March has said the current criteria is not fair for ALL clubs and other clubs agree. He did not say the Club is going to ask for concessions
To me it is media spin
This is a great twist of things by Sheedy here.
AS you say WP Gale has said we don't need special handouts from the league regarding draft picks, yet somehow this has been twisted to somehow be in conflict with the president saying that all lower clubs should have recent draft selections protected from being poached.
Regardless of people's opinions of him being senile or similar, he is still a cunning old coote and to me this is a deliberate twist, not just the contorted ramblings of an old fool. It seems he will say anything just to have a dig at the RFC, just like some posters on internet forums.
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I really dont need to exlain myself, do I ?
Move on shell we, and stop getting your knickers in a not.
What I post is not my opinions, it is of actual events.
Also , there is a bit of disharmony down there between Gale , March and Cameron, they all play the political game.
My bets are on Gale, :thumbsup
Time to move on? because as per normal you continue to avoid answering the questions posed to you. That's is what is getting me frustrated - you inability to answer the question directed at you
Which brings me to...
So let me get this straight - what you get told are the actual events, therefore FACTS based on what someone tells you?
But what I get told as being the actual events are not Factual at all because you say so?
Is that what you are saying ???
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the person involved told me, leave it at that
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either way jack, kevin sheedy has now proven that he has now redefined the "c" word
the "c" word = keven sheedy!!!!!
the "fc" word = demetriou!!!!
the "c's" lil biatch = kevin bartlett
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Sheeds the Sheedy old Sheed can go and Sheedy himself, What a shetard.
Shenile old fool (http://www.smileyhut.com/angry/fist.gif) (http://www.smileyhut.com)
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the person involved told me, leave it at that
Don't you mean ONE of the people involved told you?
There was more than one person involved - FACT so unless you've spoken to all of them then you only have one persons verison on events
And I suppose there is no way in the world anyone else could have spoken to someone who was "involved" (insert one of these ;) for added effect)
And BTW again you didn't answer the question I asked which I will repeat:
"So let me get this straight - what you get told are the actual events, therefore FACTS based on what someone tells you?
But what I get told as being the actual events are not Factual at all because you say so?
Is that what you are saying"
;D
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Losing Martin will hurt us massively.
We'll wait and see, I don't think it will get up regardless of money.
I visit a friend who lives in Blacktown the suburb where the GWS ground is within walking distance. Their is more chance of GWS folding within 10 years than Richmond winning the spoon this year. The place is a horrible horrible place and filled with immagrants who in no way shape or form will support any sporting club let alone an unknown sporting code.
The move is a horrible one by the AFL. Sheeds knows this and HAS to do anything and everything he possibly can to give GWS a chance.
I'd put my bottom dollar on GWS not getting up without an enormous and record amount of help from the AFL year in year out for a long time.
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sheedy sounds like a broken record keeps going on about richmond.
you didnt get the coach's sheedy get over it.
how about tryin to build a club and a culture so you can save your self from a failing club GWS before poaching contracted players by offering huge amounts of cash.
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GWS should be postponed for a further 2 years. They dont have any chance in hell of being a success. 2014 should be when they come in.
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I have no inside knowledge about if Martin would go or not but I would hope not.
The main thing is we are going have to sign up a 18 year old to a contract that will be way over the odds and much earlier than we normally would do. I am not saying Martin wont be a star or wont deserve the contract, just that the whole thing stinks in that we are forced into such contracts by the new teams and the Player managers knowing that existing Clubs have no choice.
I find the whole signing of a player from each team concept a horrible idea.
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the person involved told me, leave it at that
Don't you mean ONE of the people involved told you?
There was more than one person involved - FACT so unless you've spoken to all of them then you only have one persons verison on events
And I suppose there is no way in the world anyone else could have spoken to someone who was "involved" (insert one of these ;) for added effect)
And BTW again you didn't answer the question I asked which I will repeat:
"So let me get this straight - what you get told are the actual events, therefore FACTS based on what someone tells you?
But what I get told as being the actual events are not Factual at all because you say so?
Is that what you are saying"
;D
willie
give it a rest
we all know jack is mates with sheeds
we also know that he is the only one that buys the crap that sheeds is selling
i hope jack and sheeds are very happy together :pray
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Firstly I hope Martin stays :gotigers
secondly its amazing how posters vent there hatred for someone they dont know.
You wouldnt find a better person than K. Sheedy :thumbsup
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Not for Richmond he aint !!!!
Understand it's a job/business and the media may have just zoomed in on Martin, but the least I would expect is sheeds to steer the wolves in a different direction by naming other players/clubs, not us.
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Firstly I hope Martin stays :gotigers
secondly its amazing how posters vent there hatred for someone they dont know.
You wouldnt find a better person than K. Sheedy :thumbsup
Can honestly say I don't hate the man.
But I certainly have absolutely no respect for him now and not just over this issue.
The complete disrespect he now shows the RFC (since August of last year) because he didn't get his way is disgraceful.
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Firstly I hope Martin stays :gotigers
secondly its amazing how posters vent there hatred for someone they dont know.
You wouldnt find a better person than K. Sheedy :thumbsup
dont care about sheeds, he is irrelevant
alot like you :thumbsup
the fact is,
he wont be welcome back at richmond now, he has burnt his bridges
good riddance to bad rubbish
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Firstly I hope Martin stays :gotigers
secondly its amazing how posters vent there hatred for someone they dont know.
You wouldnt find a better person than K. Sheedy :thumbsup
dont care about sheeds, he is irrelevant
alot like you :thumbsup
the fact is,
he wont be welcome back at richmond now, he has burnt his bridges
good riddance to bad rubbish
club should terminate his life membership Blaisee IMHO. Hes not one of us, we may sledge each other as supporters and fans but we are Richmond and he isnt- the club should get rid of him, his not one of us!
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Firstly I hope Martin stays :gotigers
secondly its amazing how posters vent there hatred for someone they dont know.
You wouldnt find a better person than K. Sheedy :thumbsup
Could find a better person in the gutter, you must have low standards
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GWS should be postponed for a further 2 years. They dont have any chance in hell of being a success. 2014 should be when they come in.
agreed i think they would have better chance of hitting the ground running if they waited. i dont kno why afl have a fear of having a bye for each team.
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Firstly I hope Martin stays :gotigers
secondly its amazing how posters vent there hatred for someone they dont know.
You wouldnt find a better person than K. Sheedy :thumbsup
Could find a better person in the gutter, you must have low standards
Charming, just shows what type of person you are ::)
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Firstly I hope Martin stays :gotigers
secondly its amazing how posters vent there hatred for someone they dont know.
You wouldnt find a better person than K. Sheedy :thumbsup
dont care about sheeds, he is irrelevant
alot like you :thumbsup
the fact is,
he wont be welcome back at richmond now, he has burnt his bridges
good riddance to bad rubbish
Charming, just shows the mentality of your typical Richmond supporter
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sheeds has always proven to be a selfish individual that looks out for No 1. from his days renogiating contracts at ESS merely using the RFC as a bargaining chip to his brief foray back at Tigerland , that was timed to be at the dealing table once TW's run was coming to an end...when that fell flat then you guessed it , he was outski. He's fast running short of fans in Y&B with his peurile drivel aimed at Punt rd that says more about the useless bitter old git than the intended message.
I accept he doesn't owe us any favours, and nor do we owe him any in return. Like John Elliott was stripped of his honours at Carlton, the RFC should reconsider anything lionked to Kevin Sheedy, should this shamelss attack continue.
If he had any decency at all, he'd issue an unreserved apology, but don't hold your breath :lol
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Why would he apologise ?
He is coach of GWS.
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Why would he apologise ?
He is coach of GWS.
He won't be there for long once they realise once and for all he's past it
What's he trying to prove by having a go at his old club at every opportunity?
Will he be having a go at the Bombers kids?
I somehow doubt it
He's tried to screw us at every opportunity since he left us 30 years ago :banghead
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There are times when people like sheeds and KB have raised an eyebrow or two with their comments and actions,but i keep harping back to the fact that people like them have bled for this club,they have celebrated in its glory too,so i cant see why they would go out of their way to cause harm to us.Sure they make throw away lines in the argy bargy of the competitive game that is AFL,but i for one always listen with interest to what they have to say...To me who grew up in the glory years of the late 60s and 70s these guys still represent Richmond,and the Richmond ideal.
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Why would he apologise ?
He is coach of GWS.
He won't be there for long once they realise once and for all he's past it
What's he trying to prove by having a go at his old club at every opportunity?
Will he be having a go at the Bombers kids?
I somehow doubt it
He's tried to screw us at every opportunity since he left us 30 years ago :banghead
My God... Oh my God, I actually agree with you... ;D :thumbsup
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Why would he apologise ?
He is coach of GWS.
for the unsolicited attack on the RFC.ya bloody dill .can you quote any other coaches that have said as much on the recent history of the RFC...hmmm and he doesn't need to apoligise :lol...tell dad he's past it
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There are times when people like sheeds and KB have raised an eyebrow or two with their comments and actions,but i keep harping back to the fact that people like them have bled for this club,they have celebrated in its glory too,so i cant see why they would go out of their way to cause harm to us.Sure they make throw away lines in the argy bargy of the competitive game that is AFL,but i for one always listen with interest to what they have to say...To me who grew up in the glory years of the late 60s and 70s these guys still represent Richmond,and the Richmond ideal.
At least there is one poster on here who has an understanding of what goes on
Well said Gigantor :thumbsup
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Sheeds and Bartlett are one and the same. Bitter old men who did not get their own way and rather than accept it they have thrown vitriol towards the RFC since their paid time at the club ended.
I emphasise the word paid time.
People like Neville Crowe are RFC. Was Pres lost the Presidency but still helped the club out. What has Bartlett or Sheedy done for us. Fk off both of them.
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He is coach of GWS.
Which raises the question why isn't actually coaching them at the moment?
They are playing in the TAC cup this year and he their coach so why isn't he coaching them?
Actually I am not even sure he bothers to attend games
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I wanted Sheeds to come back around the early noughties.
i remember well Sheeds courting us and getting us all excited.
I was so excited about our old legend coming back at last and then he shafted us by extending his contract at the Bumheads.
I wanted to throw a brick through a window.
I was devastated.
I applaud Richmond for sticking to their guns and let us all remember,Sheeds could have got the job if he went through the same process al the other candiates went through.
He went up and left us and now has a vendetta against us for no reason.
This club breaks my heart but now I know what makes the club tick.
It's the fans.
We've been in this pain together.
Our old heroes effing us over,media baggings,mate we all have all felt massive pain,pain I think no other club has felt in the past 28 years.
But when we come good all that bottled pain will come out and I know for one thing,there will be nothing like it.
That roar when we run out onto Richmond Paddock will peel the paint from the walls.
I will laugh at all the idiots that gave us a hardtime for so long.
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Sheeds and Bartlett are one and the same. Bitter old men who did not get their own way and rather than accept it they have thrown vitriol towards the RFC since their paid time at the club ended.
I emphasise the word paid time.
People like Neville Crowe are RFC. Was Pres lost the Presidency but still helped the club out. What has Bartlett or Sheedy done for us. Fk off both of them.
Bartlett was one of the driving forces behind the ""save our skins "" .
If it wasnt for the KB and Jack Dyer factor at the time, the club wouldnt have survived.
Can tell you Bartlett tipped in a lot at the time
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Sheeds and Bartlett are one and the same. Bitter old men who did not get their own way and rather than accept it they have thrown vitriol towards the RFC since their paid time at the club ended.
I emphasise the word paid time.
People like Neville Crowe are RFC. Was Pres lost the Presidency but still helped the club out. What has Bartlett or Sheedy done for us. Fk off both of them.
Bartlett was one of the driving forces behind the ""save our skins "" .
If it wasnt for the KB and Jack Dyer factor at the time, the club wouldnt have survived.
Can tell you Bartlett tipped in a lot at the time
Good on Kevin for chipping in whatever he chipped in. Amount is irrelevant. Just b/c he gave something to the club in their time of need is not tantamount to him not getting the sack as coach.
However the club is bigger than the individual. Unfortunantely some of our previous premiership stars disagree thinking that they are bigger than the club and I am sure you know that too Jamie.
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Firstly I hope Martin stays :gotigers
secondly its amazing how posters vent there hatred for someone they dont know.
You wouldnt find a better person than K. Sheedy :thumbsup
dont care about sheeds, he is irrelevant
alot like you :thumbsup
the fact is,
he wont be welcome back at richmond now, he has burnt his bridges
good riddance to bad rubbish
bloody hope so cos if i ever see that tool at our clu again i will personally kick his arse out of teh joint, i dont care if i have to do time and get charged for unleashing my rage on him!!!
he has used us in the past for self gain, and now he is betraying us anbd trying to kill us, hope the prick suffers in the same way i hope wallet suffers
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Sheeds and Bartlett are one and the same. Bitter old men who did not get their own way and rather than accept it they have thrown vitriol towards the RFC since their paid time at the club ended.
I emphasise the word paid time.
People like Neville Crowe are RFC. Was Pres lost the Presidency but still helped the club out. What has Bartlett or Sheedy done for us. Fk off both of them.
Bartlett was one of the driving forces behind the ""save our skins "" .
If it wasnt for the KB and Jack Dyer factor at the time, the club wouldnt have survived.
Can tell you Bartlett tipped in a lot at the time
Good on Kevin for chipping in whatever he chipped in. Amount is irrelevant. Just b/c he gave something to the club in their time of need is not tantamount to him not getting the sack as coach.
However the club is bigger than the individual. Unfortunantely some of our previous premiership stars disagree thinking that they are bigger than the club and I am sure you know that too Jamie.
Yep , and if its wasnt for Crowe, Bartlett Sheedy and the previous premiership players chipping in you wouldnt have a club.
Also , one of most moving thing I have seen at a football club and something that I will never forget is the video K.Sheedy produced and gave to the club for the players to watch before the Richmond Vs Collingwood game at the G in 2005. For those on here who can remember, it was ''billed"" the tradition rivals game . Players even had there pre match meeting at Punt rd and walked over to the G after that. Sheeds didnt have to do but he did..
Wallace had asked him to contribute something and he went to great lengths to produce a video, ( also keep in mind that Wallace and Sheeds aint the bestof friends either ) Some of the footage bought back great memories.
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Yep , and if its wasnt for Crowe, Bartlett Sheedy and the previous premiership players chipping in you wouldnt have a club.
And you wonder why people get stuck into you >:(
How bloody condescending?
What about every other person who contributed to the SOS campaign, their contribution meant what; NOTHING ???
You know Tiger supporters, the same ones who today still buy memberships year after year? They did nothing right?
Yes the people you mentioned contributed and that's not in dispute but say if it wasn't for them their wouldn't be a club is not only false but an insult to every single person who dug deep to help this great Club
And NO; "you know what I meant" isn't a good enough excuse
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Yep , and if its wasnt for Crowe, Bartlett Sheedy and the previous premiership players chipping in you wouldnt have a club.
And you wonder why people get stuck into you >:(
How bloody condescending?
What about every other person who contributed to the SOS campaign, their contribution meant what; NOTHING ???
You know Tiger supporters, the same ones who today still buy memberships year after year? They did nothing right?
Yes the people you mentioned contributed and that's not in dispute but say if it wasn't for them their wouldn't be a club is not only false but an insult to every single person who dug deep to this great Club
And NO; "you know what I meant" is a good enough excuse
Ah but there are those who continually slag the likes of KB and Sheeds.
Yes, the supporters, we all put in, no denying that
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Ah but there are those who continually slag the likes of KB and Sheeds.
But they are allowed to "slag" the club (espeically Sheeds these days) and that's OK
But people aren't allowed to be critical of the way they now treat the club and disrespect
Yep that's consistency isn't it :P
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Ah but there are those who continually slag the likes of KB and Sheeds.
But they are allowed to "slag" the club (espeically Sheeds these days) and that's OK
But people aren't allowed to be critical of the way they now treat the club and disrespect
Yep that's consistency isn't it :P
Well the RFC hasnt been a success story over the past 10 years , has it
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So bashing someone and then kicking them in the head while they are down is fine by you ::)
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Ah but there are those who continually slag the likes of KB and Sheeds.
But they are allowed to "slag" the club (espeically Sheeds these days) and that's OK
But people aren't allowed to be critical of the way they now treat the club and disrespect
Yep that's consistency isn't it :P
Well the RFC hasnt been a success story over the past 10 years , has it
And what has KB and Sheedy done for our club in any form over the last 10 years to help the RFC out. Please don't use Sheedys recent what ever the hell he did there as a example, because IMO he caused more problems with his disruption at trying to become our coach and KB was there stirring the pot as well.
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Bartlett was one of the driving forces behind the ""save our skins "" .
If it wasnt for the KB and Jack Dyer factor at the time, the club wouldnt have survived.
Can tell you Bartlett tipped in a lot at the time
We all did, everyone of us who was around then tipped in and helped the club
That doesn't qualify you then to try to trash and destroy it.
Why do they want to destroy what they once gave their whole body and soul to?
They don't give a stuff about the supporters and how they feel, it's just how a few individuals, rightly or wrongly, treated them
They were mistreated 'IN THEIR EYES' so everyone else has to suffer
If that ain't selfish, I don't know what else is :banghead
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Bartlett was one of the driving forces behind the ""save our skins "" .
If it wasnt for the KB and Jack Dyer factor at the time, the club wouldnt have survived.
Can tell you Bartlett tipped in a lot at the time
We all did, everyone of us who was around then tipped in and helped the club
That doesn't qualify you then to try to trash and destroy it.
Why do they want to destroy what they once gave their whole body and soul to?
They don't give a stuff about the supporters and how they feel, it's just how a few individuals, rightly or wrongly, treated them
They were mistreated 'IN THEIR EYES' so everyone else has to suffer
If that ain't selfish, I don't know what else is :banghead
:clapping
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Well the RFC hasnt been a success story over the past 10 years , has it
What the hell has that got to do with what this discussion has been about? This statement ties in where exactly? :help
What has this statement got to do with Sheeds (and I'll leave KB out of it because he isn't involved in this GWS raid thing) constantly taking pot shots at the Club that has been bloody good to him over a very long period of time because he's cracked the sads because he dind't have the coaching gig handed to him on platter?
Nothing, nada, zilch I would have thought but at least its good to sse that on this return you've maintained your consistency of side tracking the issue :thumbsup
We all did, everyone of us who was around then tipped in and helped the club
That doesn't qualify you then to try to trash and destroy it.
Why do they want to destroy what they once gave their whole body and soul to?
They don't give a stuff about the supporters and how they feel, it's just how a few individuals, rightly or wrongly, treated them
They were mistreated 'IN THEIR EYES' so everyone else has to suffer
If that ain't selfish, I don't know what else is :banghead
Spot On :thumbsup
:clapping
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Bartlett was one of the driving forces behind the ""save our skins "" .
If it wasnt for the KB and Jack Dyer factor at the time, the club wouldnt have survived.
Can tell you Bartlett tipped in a lot at the time
We all did, everyone of us who was around then tipped in and helped the club
That doesn't qualify you then to try to trash and destroy it.
Why do they want to destroy what they once gave their whole body and soul to?
They don't give a stuff about the supporters and how they feel, it's just how a few individuals, rightly or wrongly, treated them
They were mistreated 'IN THEIR EYES' so everyone else has to suffer
If that ain't selfish, I don't know what else is :banghead
well done.
You have nailed it !
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Tick Tick Tick <-- Jackstar leave for attention clock ;)
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Club is bigger than the individual.
Couldn't honestly give a flying eff what Sheedy says or does these days.
Enough looking back. Time for this club to look forward.
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Tick Tick Tick <-- Jackstar leave for attention clock ;)
Boring ::)
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Sheeds and Bartlett are one and the same. Bitter old men who did not get their own way and rather than accept it they have thrown vitriol towards the RFC since their paid time at the club ended.
I emphasise the word paid time.
People like Neville Crowe are RFC. Was Pres lost the Presidency but still helped the club out. What has Bartlett or Sheedy done for us. Fk off both of them.
You bag KB.
Hate to tell you this ,that KB presented Griffiths with his first jumper before the game today.
KB a bitter old man you say , Nah, just a good bloke KB who gave his all for 403 games
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You bag KB.
Hate to tell you this ,that KB presented Griffiths with his first jumper before the game today.
KB a bitter old man you say , Nah, just a good bloke KB who gave his all for 403 games
Saw that Jack. Was pretty impressed too - would have meant a fair bit to Griffiths and showed that Bartlett was not the anti-Geez that some would have us believe.
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You bag KB.
Hate to tell you this ,that KB presented Griffiths with his first jumper before the game today.
KB a bitter old man you say , Nah, just a good bloke KB who gave his all for 403 games
This is a good thing. Bartlett held a grudge against the club, or at least people within the club for a long time so the label of bitter is not unfair. Hopefully, though, this shows that is starting to heal. As you say Jack he did give his all for 403 games, rejecting offers to move for more money.
Would much rather people like KB embracing the club and themselves being embraced by the supporters than having lingering animosity.
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And I dont blame KB over the years, terrible the way he was treated by Tiges in the early 90,s.
KB loves the Tiges ;)
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KB and Sheedy are different ... KB was treated badly, Sheedy was never treated badly...KB is a legend and Sheedy isnt. Thats it in a nutshell.
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KB is a tigers man through and through, always has been, always will be, that is why he was so hurt that he was scapegoated for our woes back when he was sacked when we had a crap list and a crap administration and no coaching staff. Sheedy just looks out for Sheedy. Great to see KB giving big Griff his jumper and it was great to see Griff take a nice mark early on in the game before he copped a corky. :thumbsup
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KB is a great bloke, and nice he presented the jumper
Until the next time he has an unfair crack at us which you can set your watch by he will.
Criticism is fine. If you can't cop that then you should give up the game
But bagging your former club unmercifully at every opportunity is unfair
For what reason?
Because of lingering resentment
Sure he was treated unfairly - haven't any of you?
Sure, his mate Sheeds didn't get the coaching job - have you gone for a position at a company you've served long and hard for and not got it, but you still continue to work there and do a good job. Especially, when you're at the end of your career, it's not "unreasonable" that you don't get the position.
Both these individuals have reaped great rewards for their efforts in footy - good on them, they've earned them
But trashing and trying to steal players that are going to be the players that will get us off the bottom again is not on, and DESERVES the criticism they get.
Just because Jack's mates with Sheeds doesn't mean he can't be criticised ::)
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KB and Sheedy are different ... KB was treated badly, Sheedy was never treated badly...KB is a legend and Sheedy isnt. Thats it in a nutshell.
BINGO
Hence, why I haven't and wont drag KB into this latest lot of Sheeds and his bitter rants...
Great thing KB did yesterday, said some mighty fine words at the presentation I was told :thumbsup
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KB and Sheedy are different ... KB was treated badly, Sheedy was never treated badly...KB is a legend and Sheedy isnt. Thats it in a nutshell.
BINGO
Hence, why I haven't and wont drag KB into this latest lot of Sheeds and his bitter rants...
Great thing KB did yesterday, said some mighty fine words at the presentation I was told :thumbsup
Yes it was great to see him in the rooms handing Griffiths his jumper, thats what our former greats should be doing.
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Sheeds and Bartlett are one and the same. Bitter old men who did not get their own way and rather than accept it they have thrown vitriol towards the RFC since their paid time at the club ended.
I emphasise the word paid time.
People like Neville Crowe are RFC. Was Pres lost the Presidency but still helped the club out. What has Bartlett or Sheedy done for us. Fk off both of them.
You bag KB.
Hate to tell you this ,that KB presented Griffiths with his first jumper before the game today.
KB a bitter old man you say , Nah, just a good bloke KB who gave his all for 403 games
I'm so happy to hear this.
Good on you KB.
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Club is bigger than the individual.
Couldn't honestly give a flying eff what Sheedy says or does these days.
Enough looking back. Time for this club to look forward.
:clapping :clapping :clapping
Gale said we are looking forwards not backwards. No blaming just thanks, No excuses just transformation.
Lets make new history. Lets have success. :thumbsup
P.S I personally still blame Wallace and Miller and Casey for our current predicament but I'll get over it.
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Gale said we are looking forwards not backwards. No blaming just thanks, No excuses just transformation.
Lets make new history. Lets have success. :thumbsup
P.S I personally still blame Wallace and Miller and Casey for our current predicament but I'll get over it.
Agree with you Mr T (and I need to chuck Frawley's name to that group for it to be complete). Let Benny and the club go forward without blame - I'll pick up those loose ends for them and blame away! ;D
And like you - I'll get over it and I can even predict when - the moment the siren sounds to hand us our next flag.
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On this young stars thing, I suppose that GC17 would be looking for a big-bodied ruckman for their team. Doesn't Gus come out of contract this year? Are the any rumours that we might be starting talks with him/his manager? Would we care if we lost him to GC?
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On this young stars thing, I suppose that GC17 would be looking for a big-bodied ruckman for their team. Doesn't Gus come out of contract this year? Are the any rumours that we might be starting talks with him/his manager? Would we care if we lost him to GC?
Being that Gus appears to have turned the corner over the last 3 weeks I would be in no hurry to trade him off just yet, depending on how the rest of his year pans out of course.
Lets not make the mistake of trading him when he is coming good!! With Simmo leaving and Browne still coming through and with Vickery still growing we may have to keep Gus. lets just hope he maintains his current form!!
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listen and watch this
http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76/videoid/54737/in+the+rooms+-+kevin+bartlett/Default.aspx#VideoPlayerB
Anyone putting Sheedy on the same level as KB need there head read. Its not on. KB is a legend.
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listen and watch this
http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76/videoid/54737/in+the+rooms+-+kevin+bartlett/Default.aspx#VideoPlayerB
Anyone putting Sheedy on the same level as KB need there head read. Its not on. KB is a legend.
Yeah I don't like hearing KB put down. Sure he's been stubborn over the journey but that's all in the past now. Great footage.