One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on August 01, 2010, 06:44:11 PM
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Fire away .....
Any more debutants?
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OUT: Connors (did anyone see what I saw: HINT = poor disposal ;D),
IN: Collins
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In: Vickery, Collins
Out: White, Nason
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IN: collins, rance
OUT: Hicks, Nason
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would like to see gourdis & orielly soon
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In: Vickery, Collo
Out: McGuane, Nason
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OUT: Connors (did anyone see what I saw: HINT = poor disposal ;D),
IN: Collins
connors is safe, imo played a damn good game and disposal was very good
u really hate him dont u wp
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connors is safe, imo played a damn good game and disposal was very good
u really hate him dont u wp
Hate is a very strong word and one I don't particularly like to use
Don't respect him is a better way to put it
His disposal yesterday was average at best and he is clearly not fit. Yesterday he gave us plenty of glimpses of the "bad" Dan Connors, the one that wont chase and the one that tries to do the "show off" (aka selfish) type things rather than the team thing, first option thing... and can I add he one mate that stood out as a beacon in that regard as well at times yesterday....
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Rance and Gourdis will be in the mix.
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Even though I see a pile of potential in Dan I can also see a fair bit of bad as well.
However I did see something I wouldn't have expected off Dan yesterday, ie he backed into a contest.
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In: Vickery, Collins
Out: White, Nason
Vickery to replace White or Nason? I didn't know that either were ruckmen. Might have been as juniors but not at senior level, surely.
Maybe you are just looking at ruck stats as neither of them won a ruck contest yesterday and deserve to be dropped on their poor ruck performance?
Or are you proposing that with 3 ruckmen, Graham, Browne and Vickery, that one of them could play on a half forward stuff and run and chase all day? Have either of them been training on the half forward stuff?
::)
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In: Vickery, Collins
Out: White, Nason
Vickery to replace White or Nason? I didn't know that either were ruckmen. Might have been as juniors but not at senior level, surely.
Maybe you are just looking at ruck stats as neither of them won a ruck contest yesterday and deserve to be dropped on their poor ruck performance?
Or are you proposing that with 3 ruckmen, Graham, Browne and Vickery, that one of them could play on a half forward stuff and run and chase all day? Have either of them been training on the half forward stuff?
::)
I think that hardwick mentioned after the game that they might be looking at Vickery as a short term tall forward option to help Jack out, especially with Griffiths out for the rest of the season. Probably about practising the structures he wants moving forward into next season.
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In: Vickery, Collins
Out: White, Nason
Vickery to replace White or Nason? I didn't know that either were ruckmen. Might have been as juniors but not at senior level, surely.
Maybe you are just looking at ruck stats as neither of them won a ruck contest yesterday and deserve to be dropped on their poor ruck performance?
Or are you proposing that with 3 ruckmen, Graham, Browne and Vickery, that one of them could play on a half forward stuff and run and chase all day? Have either of them been training on the half forward stuff?
::)
I think that hardwick mentioned after the game that they might be looking at Vickery as a short term tall forward option to help Jack out, especially with Griffiths out for the rest of the season. Probably about practising the structures he wants moving forward into next season.
Yep Dimma wants TV in as a second tall forward to straighten us up and take the focus off Jack after we spent the first half yesterday running around and handballing in circles. Unless we are planning to give Gus a rest then it seems we plan to play all three of Gus, BrownE and Vickery this week.
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In: Vickery, Collins, Gourdis
Out: Graham, Nason, 1 of Mcguane / Thursfield / Moore
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serious question but this week do you expect Hardwick to go all out to win therefore just play one on one man on man footy or do you want him to continue the education process and play some zonal stuff which we have struggled to do well?
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In: Vickery, Collins, Gourdis
Out: Graham, Nason, 1 of Mcguane / Thursfield / Moore
I don't see them dropping Graham but I agree with the other outs so maybe Gourdis to miss again unless Collins doesn't come up. We will need to load up on speed and height though if we want to match the Dees. And on the Dees, they were quite ordinary last Sat night and if they reproduced anything like that form we would be a big chance.
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serious question but this week do you expect Hardwick to go all out to win therefore just play one on one man on man footy or do you want him to continue the education process and play some zonal stuff which we have struggled to do well?
I reckon he will keep mixing it up a bit - playing zones is not just about where to go and what to do, fitness and skill has a fair bit of a role in the success or otherwise of zones and our inability to cope with them is partially tied to our overall development in fitness and maturity. Next year we will see an improvement in our ability to zone and consequently more of it introduced into our game plan. I like that we always go well man on man though - that tells me that for pure ability and attitude we are already well placed.
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In: Vickery, Collins, Gourdis
Out: Graham, Nason, 1 of Mcguane / Thursfield / Moore
I don't see them dropping Graham but I agree with the other outs so maybe Gourdis to miss again unless Collins doesn't come up. We will need to load up on speed and height though if we want to match the Dees. And on the Dees, they were quite ordinary last Sat night and if they reproduced anything like that form we would be a big chance.
My reasons for Graham and Nason being dropped are that they're being rested. Graham has clearly been hampered since the Fremantle game, and Nason's only a first year player. He's running on empty at the moment.
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Should bring in Gourdis and play him on Watts.
Gourdis has the athleticism to keep up with Watts, yet Watts isn't dominating games enough for it to be a massive job for a first gamer.
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connors is safe, imo played a damn good game and disposal was very good
u really hate him dont u wp
Hate is a very strong word and one I don't particularly like to use
Don't respect him is a better way to put it
His disposal yesterday was average at best and he is clearly not fit. Yesterday he gave us plenty of glimpses of the "bad" Dan Connors, the one that wontt chase and the one that tried does the "show off" (aka selfish) type things rather than the team thing, first option thing... and can I add he one mate that stood out as a beacon in that regard as well at times yesterday....
Connors looks like he is having a baby.
Dont know what has gone on there, struggled last 2 weeks. looks very unfit
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whats of interest that his best mate aint doing the team things either ;)
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In: Vickery, Collins
Out: White, Nason
Vickery to replace White or Nason? I didn't know that either were ruckmen. Might have been as juniors but not at senior level, surely.
Maybe you are just looking at ruck stats as neither of them won a ruck contest yesterday and deserve to be dropped on their poor ruck performance?
Or are you proposing that with 3 ruckmen, Graham, Browne and Vickery, that one of them could play on a half forward stuff and run and chase all day? Have either of them been training on the half forward stuff?
::)
I think that hardwick mentioned after the game that they might be looking at Vickery as a short term tall forward option to help Jack out, especially with Griffiths out for the rest of the season. Probably about practising the structures he wants moving forward into next season.
Hardwick did say that, however what about Post at Full Forward?
Post can mark better then anyone at Richmond!
Kick it to him and give him a chance!
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Why the hell would Harwick even consider bringing Vickery into the mix, has done F all at Richmond and F all at Coburg, lazy in the ruck and hopeless as a forward, get over your bum boys coach and start rewarding the boys doing the job at either level
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whats of interest that his best mate aint doing the team things either ;)
You can say Riewoldt. It's pretty obvious.
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:lol
@ post being the best mark
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Hardwick did say that, however what about Post at Full Forward?
Post can mark better then anyone at Richmond!
Kick it to him and give him a chance!
Pehaps Jayden is running around at Coburg again simply because he doesn't deserve to be playing for Richmond base don his efforts the other week against Collingwood
whats of interest that his best mate aint doing the team things either ;)
I wans't talking about his best mate I was just referring to one of his team mates who did a couple of very selfish things yesterday
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OUT: Connors (did anyone see what I saw: HINT = poor disposal ;D),
IN: Collins
personally not sold on Connors, loves to be too cute for his own
damn good.
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OUT: Connors (did anyone see what I saw: HINT = poor disposal ;D),
IN: Collins
personally not sold on Connors, loves to be too cute for his own
damn good.
BINGO ;D
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conners needs to find a little of the ol mongrel he had in him and use it on the field.
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conners needs to find a little of the ol mongrel he had in him and use it on the field.
lairising is another term for Connors use of the ball
sometimes especially his kicking.
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Edwards tried to do a bit too much in his early days in the senior side as well. He kept getting caught but they kept playing him and over time he's learnt what he can get away with. For example that spin move Connors put on a couple of weeks ago directly resulted in a fantastic chain of play that ended up in a goal.
I'd say the coaches would be encouraging the players to take the game on and create as these are the moves that can break through a defence. As long as they are trying to achieve things that are within the scope of the game plan then I don't have a massive problem with it.
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whats of interest that his best mate aint doing the team things either ;)
Jack..who is his best mate?
i see someone said it is Riewoldt...is that who you are referring to? If so, why do you say not doing the team things...cos of the couple of attempts to kick miraculous goals off the ground ?
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RICHMOND - In the Mix
Andrew Collins was a late withdrawal with a corked thigh on Sunday, but debutant Robbie Hicks did well as his replacement, ands coach Damien Hardwick has tended to give players at least a couple of weeks once selected. Ruckman Angus Graham could be due for a rest, which would mean Tyrone Vickery will get a run, while Alex Rance, Robin Nahas (in the midfield) and defender David Gourdis all did well at Coburg.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/99590/default.aspx
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3aw news said there'll likely be no changes this week. They said Dimma said at training this morning that Collins, Vickery and Gourdis are in the mix but it'll be hard to change a winning team.
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Here it is in the press.....
Richmond set to name unchanged side
August 5, 2010 - 11:09AM
AAP
Richmond could take an unchanged side into Sunday's AFL match against Melbourne as they try to continue their improved form in the second half of the season.
The Tigers are coming off a win over Adelaide and are now two games clear of last spot, while the Demons are making an unlikely bid for the top eight with four rounds left.
Coach Damien Hardwick said at training on Thursday that Andrew Collins, Ty Vickery and David Gourdis are all pushing for senior recalls, but it will be tough to change the team.
"We are wanting to get guys into the side, but it is a good situation to be in because guys in the side have played well," Hardwick said.
"There will be limited changes this week, if any."
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/richmond-set-to-name-unchanged-side-20100805-11ij8.html