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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: tiger till i die on August 01, 2010, 08:36:02 PM
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should be a good game .. 80 thousand? :P
hicks deserves another game same with Browne id keep the list maby switch Nason who dose perform well just liek to see Taylor more yes?
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should be a good game .. 80 thousand? :P
hicks deserves another game same with Browne id keep the list maby switch Nason who dose perform well just liek to see Taylor more yes?
Try 45,000
We will win
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should be a good game .. 80 thousand? :P
hicks deserves another game same with Browne id keep the list maby switch Nason who dose perform well just liek to see Taylor more yes?
Try 45,000
We will win
Against the next league superpower?? ;)
I hope we smash them.
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should be a good game .. 80 thousand? :P
hicks deserves another game same with Browne id keep the list maby switch Nason who dose perform well just liek to see Taylor more yes?
Try 45,000
We will win
Against the next league superpower?? ;)
I hope we smash them.
doubt it .. but i will pray for it :pray ... i rekon big numbers coming in for t really hot teams at the moment
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should be a good game .. 80 thousand? :P
hicks deserves another game same with Browne id keep the list maby switch Nason who dose perform well just liek to see Taylor more yes?
give it two years mate, you'll be pretty close to the mark. (more so if the game is scheduled outside of the ski season...)
i rate this melbourne side, have an epic team forming.
Im taking one for the team aswell, putting Sylvia in my DT this week so he will be absolutely diabolical. ;)
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would like to see Nason and Farmer make way for Gourdis and Taylor this week.
both have had shocking last 2 weeks. Honestly both shouldnt play based on form.
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would like to see Nason and Farmer make way for Gourdis and Taylor this week.
both have had shocking last 2 weeks. Honestly both shouldnt play based on form.
hrmm is Gourdis showing better form than Farmer ?
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Gourdis stats on the weekend were superb...
He deserves a couple of games for RFC...hasnt really put a foot wrong at the Burgers...
As for better form than Farmer...well they play in defence ..that is the only similarity...Gourdis is a KPP at Burgers.. but if K. Moore plays on small fwds...no reason why Gourdis cant either...Gourdis is super quick.
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80 - lol - Will be pretty packed where I will be sitting for this game I dare say.
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Hope Martin tramples over Scully or Trengove or preferably both (at the same time)
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would like to see Nason and Farmer make way for Gourdis and Taylor this week.
both have had shocking last 2 weeks. Honestly both shouldnt play based on form.
I agree with this. I want to see Gourdis in the big league.
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would like to see Nason and Farmer make way for Gourdis and Taylor this week.
both have had shocking last 2 weeks. Honestly both shouldnt play based on form.
I agree with this. I want to see Gourdis in the big league.
reading around there is alot of hype around this Taylor kid but when i see him play and he isn't that great ..
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should be a good game .. 80 thousand? :P
hicks deserves another game same with Browne id keep the list maby switch Nason who dose perform well just liek to see Taylor more yes?
Try 45,000
We will win
Serious?
That confident?
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Would like to see Post played at FF.
Taylor, O'Rielly, Gourdis played.
So four changes.
:thumbsup
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In: rance, post, taylor
Out: nason, white, moore
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Would like to see Post played at FF.
wouldnt get near it against the Melbourne defence
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In: rance, post, taylor
Out: nason, white, moore
y white ? thought he played well?
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Would like to see Post played at FF.
Did you not see the Collingwood game torch?
He was awful and rightly got dropped. Now you (and Madtiger) want to reward him ...no make that gift him a game why ???
He doesn't deserve to play until he get his intensity and desire up to level that says "I want to be here and play AFL football"
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interesting game i feel and of course the media will build
it into something its not especially if either side gets bent over.
lets hope the game is of high standard..and we give them a right ol'e rodgering. :thumbsup
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Would like to see Post played at FF.
Did you not see the Collingwood game torch?
He was awful and rightly got dropped. Now you (and Madtiger) want to reward him ...no make that gift him a game why ???
He doesn't deserve to play until he get his intensity and desire up to level that says "I want to be here and play AFL football"
Yes.
He did compete with the best defence in the AFL.
Jack had Simon.
One match and we drop him?
So do we delist him and keep Hislop?
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One match and we drop him?
So using your logic the other 2 who came in for 1 game shouldn't have been dropped either? They shoould have been given more time as well. And if your answer is NO then my repsonse is you can't have it both ways
And to argue that he played on the best defence in the comp is a cop out. Playing on the best defence shouldn't stop you doing the basic - like chasing your opponent or attempting to stop him gettng the ball
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Would like Taylor to play. We owe Melbourne a belting. Nathan Jones is a hack of the highest order
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Just been reading some Melbourne forums, they seem to think they'll be playing finals in 5 weeks time.
Let's smash these beggars!!
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The MCC is predicting a crowd of 40k on Sunday.
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Just been reading some Melbourne forums, they seem to think they'll be playing finals in 5 weeks time.
Some wishful thinking there. The Dees are effectively two games out with just 4 rounds to go and they play Hawthorn, Port (away) and North after us. No four gimmes there.
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Just been reading some Melbourne forums, they seem to think they'll be playing finals in 5 weeks time.
Some wishful thinking there. The Dees are effectively two games out with just 4 rounds to go and they play Hawthorn, Port (away) and North after us. No four gimmes there.
And if they play on the weekend the way they played the 2nd half last weekend theyll be losing this week. The Tiger Army could be on the march.
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WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
Demons players are continually talking down their chances of running out in September, but surely the chance to play in the finals will give them enough motivation to get past the rejuvenated Tigers.
PREDICTION
Melbourne by 28 points.
http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=99630
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Martin to kick the winning goal. :cheers
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Martin to kick the winning goal. :cheers
After fending off Scully into the 3rd row of the 'G! ;D
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Would like to see Post played at FF.
Did you not see the Collingwood game torch?
He was awful and rightly got dropped. Now you (and Madtiger) want to reward him ...no make that gift him a game why ???
He doesn't deserve to play until he get his intensity and desire up to level that says "I want to be here and play AFL football"
many players were awful that day. Tough game to bring Post back. He should have been given a 6 week run in the seniors not only to get his confidence and form up but to give us a 2nd tall target every week
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interesting game i feel and of course the media will build
it into something its not especially if either side gets bent over.
lets hope the game is of high standard..and we give them a right ol'e rodgering. :thumbsup
well you better be there to bend the Melbourne players over ;D
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Demons ready to fire against Tigers
* Roger Vaughan
* From: Herald Sun
* August 06, 2010
RICHMOND'S clash with Melbourne on Sunday suddenly means a lot more than a late-season fixture between two easybeats.
The Tigers and Demons were the league's two bottom teams last year, but their impressive progress in the past few weeks has made them teams to watch.
After losing their opening nine matches under new coach Damien Hardwick, Richmond has won six of its past nine.
Melbourne has won three of its past four matches and is 10th, just six points outside the top eight.
Asked yesterday if Richmond-Melbourne might be the league's next great rivalry, Hardwick replied: "It would be nice if it was - Melbourne's going to be a very, very good side ... they're starting to progress really well.
"We've gone along similar lines, with drafting through youth and starting to play those players.
"They're one of the form teams of the competition at the moment, it will be a big challenge for us."
Hardwick said the Demons had changed their game style this season, with a great focus now on kicking over handball.
"Earlier in the year, they were very much a handball-happy side," he said.
"They were No. 1 for handballs; now they're 14th over the last four to five weeks."
Hardwick said he had heard the documentary made by Ben Cousins - who will know in three weeks whether the Tigers will let him play on next year - is "very confronting".
The film is based on Cousins' personal troubles and the drug addiction that ended his time at West Coast.
"But the thing about the documentary is if one person learns one thing from it, I reckon it will be a documentary well worth doing," Hardwick said.
"It's something that at some stage we'd like to show our playing group.
"You've got to heed its message - drugs within our society, it's a very confronting thing, I have young kids myself."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/demons-ready-to-fire-against-tigers/story-e6frf9jf-1225901814201
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Bookies odds (luxbet):
Richmond $ 2.50
Melbourne $ 1.55
Line at 12.5 pts
Expert/Journo tips
Age: 1 - 23 ........... Richo is tipping us
H/S: 2 - 18 ............ Healy and Sheeds have tipped us
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$2.55 with sportingbet.com.au
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Dean Bailey talking about us....
Richmond has followed a similar path to the Dees this year in showing some encouraging signs after a rough start, making this clash an intriguing one. The youthful Tigers are a difficult proposition once they get their tails up and Bailey is keen to bounce out of the blocks well at the MCG on Sunday.
“Our starts have been better in the recent month, but Richmond are a side you have to take your opportunities against and get on the front foot from the start,” he said.
“That will be the real challenge early to make sure that we’re on the front foot and we’ve got some scoreboard pressure on them.
“They can play some pretty good footy and they’ve got a really exciting forward in Riewoldt ... I think they’ve got a developing midfield that, in the next couple of years, will be one of the premier midfields.
“We’ll certainly have our work cut out for us.”
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/99787/default.aspx
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Thanks for the insight Dean. The most boring and uninspiring coach in public ever!!!
Move over Eliott Goblet, here comes dull deano to bore us all to sleep.
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bailey is not that bad, is not boring and quite clever
but he is wrong in one aspect , we never followed their path
WE DID NOT TANK, we were just crap
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Thanks for the insight Dean. The most boring and uninspiring coach in public ever!!!
Move over Eliott Goblet, here comes dull deano to bore us all to sleep.
Dean Bailey has done a fine job at Melbourne. Infact IMHO he has been superb for there club. If we had Bailey instead of Wallace for 5 years we'd be challenging for the flag now.
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Thanks for the insight Dean. The most boring and uninspiring coach in public ever!!!
Move over Eliott Goblet, here comes dull deano to bore us all to sleep.
Dean Bailey has done a fine job at Melbourne. Infact IMHO he has been superb for there club. If we had Bailey instead of Wallace for 5 years we'd be challenging for the flag now.
Ramps, imagine if we had Jade Rawlings instead of Wallace? We'd have won the flag!
Oops better chuck in a :lol
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Thanks for the insight Dean. The most boring and uninspiring coach in public ever!!!
Move over Eliott Goblet, here comes dull deano to bore us all to sleep.
Dean Bailey has done a fine job at Melbourne. Infact IMHO he has been superb for there club. If we had Bailey instead of Wallace for 5 years we'd be challenging for the flag now.
Ramps, imagine if we had Jade Rawlings instead of Wallace? We'd have won the flag!
Oops better chuck in a :lol
LOL ;D
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Lids will kick 3 or 4.
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Lids will kick 3 or 4.
if he does, we win!
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and Jakmeoff needs to kick 6
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13 degrees; bright and sunny. No sign of hail this week :nup.
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and Jakmeoff needs to kick 6
We'll go close to winning if he does. Hopefully he forgets about the Coleman as it's affected his headspace the past couple of weeks.
To win we need to contain Melbourne's run. If we allow them to get easy uncontested possies on the spread as they did in round 4 after half-time they'll murder us today. If we can apply pressure and force more contests then we have a chance.
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cant go today, just got back home from watching my nephew go around in u12 soccer lol. anyway heres to a big win today :gotigers
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Does he follow the tiges Ramps?
We made the right decision selecting Cotch in the 2007 draft btw when Cale Morton can't get a game for Melbourne.
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edwards almost the impossible goal. Point to us
Poor kick by Jacko.
The Dees kicking is worse. Edwards finds whitey on 50. Off hands point.
2 - 0
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Edwards in everything
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Dunn trying to tag Lids but Lids is minding Davey.
We're doing all the attacking. 5-zip inside 50s. Need to get a goal out of this.
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Free against Jack when his hand hardly touched the back of frawley let alone pushed ::)
Dees run it down for a goal from their first inside 50. Thanks ump :banghead
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McDonald on Martin.
Martin 60m bomb. dee defenders too Jack conscious and Hicks dribbles one towards goal where Whitey finishes it off :gotigers
8 - 6
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Goal to melbourne starting from hb. We need to hold them up better and apply more defensive pressure.
8 - 12
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Cuz on Scully. Cuz wih 5 possies
King goal. Punishes the Melbourne drop mark :gotigers
14 - 12
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Jack kicks with his left running into an open goal and misses :P . Why your left Jack :scream
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Webbs to Hicks whose nice 55m kick finds Gus inside 50. Another miss :scream
16 - 13
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Too easy and poor Richmond :banghead. Sheesh Dees go coast to coast with just 4 kicks :banghead
16 - 19
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Lids good out of the middle. Hicks blitzes away but hits the post :P.
17 - 19
We should be 2-3 goals in front on general play. Got to take you opportunities Tigers.
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Inside 50s: 16 - 8 but we're behind on the scoreboard. Falling down up forward. Lots of long kicks inside for little reward.
1/4 time
Rich 2.5-17
Melb 3.1-19
Goals: White, King
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Webbs and Astbury getting a fair bit of it of the newbies. Hicks lively. Newy apart from one bad error, Jacko, Connors doing well also.
We're on top at the stoppages and clearances so on top in general play. Need to find another higher up marking option up forward rather than always the long bomb. Having said that 7 shots to 4 means missing too many gettable chances up forward and then getting hit on the counterattack too easily.
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Good team pressure. Whitey first of the 2nd qtr :gotigers. Giving Garland a bath.
23 - 19
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Dees through Green get it back. Once again starting from hb.
23 - 25
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Possies:
Jacko 11
Connors 8
Newy 8
Astbury 7
Morton 7
Cuz 6
Moore 6
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Newy long from 60m and carries the pack for a point.
24 - 25
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Tuck on the boudnary hb to Jacko to Cuz to Jack who taps it back to Cuz who gets a free for too high 20m out. Goal :gotigers
30 - 25
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Frees: 2 - 8 ::).
Hooray we actually got a free. Rivers in the back on Gus. Goal :gotigers
Good mark by Browne earlier btw to set it up.
36 - 26
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Tim Lane blaming Melbourne getting ahead of themselves in the papers rather than our good play ::).
Bruce moved onto White.
LOL Gus ran to the Melbourne bench :rollin
King finds White 55m out sets it up and Morton takes the mark 30m out. Goal :gotigers
42 - 26
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Melbourne winning the cnetre clearances. Need to tighten up there.
Farmer too high on Wommarieri. Miss
Connors goes against team rules trying to take it on in defence. Thankfull another miss.
42 - 28
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Another Melbourne goal starting from our forward line :banghead
42 - 34
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And they get another. Dunn 3 goals. Lids moved up forward.
42 - 40
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Point to the Dees. They're on top at th moment. Tiges need to stand up.
42 - 41
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Good play by King leaves bruce for dead and hard stuff by jack. Hicks to Gus goals :gotigers
48 - 41
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Farmer needed to hold onto the ball and find a short target. Kicks long to no one. Melbourne get it to Green with 10secs to go for a goal after the siren :banghead
half-time
Rich 2.5 7.6-48
Melb 3.1 7.5-47
Goals: Graham 2, White 2, Cousins, King, Morton
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Possies:
Jackson 17
Newman 15
Connors 13
Cousins 13
Morton 11
Moore 10
Martin 9
Deledio 9
Edwards 9
White 8
Astbury 8
Browne 8
Farmer 8
King 7
Reiwoldt 7
Thursty 7
Webbs 7
Graham 5
Nason 5
Hicks 4
Tuck 4
McGuane 1
Total: 185 - 178
Marks: 47 - 43
Tackles: 22 - 34
Hitouts: 14 - 21
Frees: 9 - 13
Clearances: 15 - 19 (5 - 9 out of centre)
Turnovers in defensive half: 8 - 18
Just 4 marks in our forward 50 ..... Graham 2 of them. None to Jack
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The positive is we've got nothing out of Jack so far. Tuck has hardly touched it either. McGuane is surplus. The concern is Melbourne are getting their goals too easily on the fast break. We're fighting better with more grunt at this stage.
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Thursty up forward and goes for his first goal. Lucky to scrape through for a point :P
McGuane back to defence.
49 - 47
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Lids gets the turnover. Finds White on 50 who hits Thursty. Here we go again ;D. 65 games; No goals. Goes the same kick. Point :-\
50 - 47
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No point having Thrusty forward if he can't kick straight.
Melbourne from the kick-in get it forward to Jurrah. Misses thankfully as well
50 - 48
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Morton held without the footy thrown to the ground and no free ::) :banghead
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Great kick by Martin. 65m flat but Jack is spoiled. Can't get into it today. Dumb dumb jacko grabs the ball out of the ruck.
Melbourne rebound again for a goal :scream
50 - 54
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They're getting on top now :-\. Miss thankfully. Tiges need to hold up again.
50 - 55
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Green's knee collects Astbury in the head :-\. He's okay
McDonald then cops the same from big Gus.
Another goal to the Dees rebounding from our forward line again :scream. We're in trouble. Getting smashed in the midfield and having trouble getting the ball out of defence.
50 - 61
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Finally we get hold of it in our forward line. Nason finds Cuz from 45m. Goal. needed that :gotigers
56 - 62
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It was clear holding the ball idiots. White from 50m doesn't make the distance.
Edwards point :-\
57 - 62
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geez can we hit the guys in Y&B inside 50 tiges :scream. 4 times inside for nothing.. Then we cough up a 50m :banghead
Point to Dees luckily
57 - 63
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freaking keep it inside forward 50 tiges. Got to do better :banghead.
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Gus falls over in slow motion :lol
Another free (too high) missed yet the Dees get one ::)
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Sheesh lucky there. Jurrah misses. Once they clear from our forward line they carve us up.
57 - 64
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Good play by newy and hard running by Cuz through the midfield off hb. Hicks find Jack who finally kicsk a goal :gotigers
63 - 64
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We've allowed another shot at goal with just 30sec to go to melburne. :banghead. Dunn with 4.
3/4 time.
Rich 2.5 7.6 9.9-63
Melb 3.1 7.5 10.10-70
Goals: Graham 2, White 2, Cousins 2, Morton, King, Reiwoldt
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The Dees are just classier. Their goals are coming far easier than ours where we've got to fight and scrap and make something out of nothing. We had more inside 50s and dominated the later half of the quarter yet go just a goal from all the play we've had. We need another tall forward target. McGuane and Thursty aren't the answer.
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Possies:
Jackson 24
Cousins 23
Newman 21
Morton 20
Connors 19
Moore 17
Inside 50s: 47 - 34
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Great play Martin. Forward pocket and finds Jacko in the corridor. Miss :banghead
64 - 70
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Hooray we got a free. Morton goalssssss :gotigers
70 -70
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Morton's handball misses Martin and the turnover gets to Watts.
70 - 76
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Again we've dominated inside 50s (4-1) and then the Dees get one chance and get a goal :banghead
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Turnover pressure again. Martin taking them on caught holding the ball.
70 - 82
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Same story all day. We get it forward and the Dees clear from our kick inside 50 and rebound for anotehr goal. They must have done it 10 times today.
70 - 88
Game over.
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We've dropped our heads now. Making dumb mistakes in defence as well now. Connors two poor kicks to 2-on-1s in favour of the Demons.
70 - 96
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Clear 50m to White not paid. He Finds Jack 30m out anyway. Point :P.
71 - 96
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White free 60m out. Finds Kingy 20m out 45 degree angle. Goal.
77 - 96
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Good work Kingy. He han't given up. Martin snaps a point.
78 - 96
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Consolation - Richo and the Tiger kids won the tug-o-war.
Newy takes a risk and barrels a mongrel torp from our kick-in to Watts/ All over now if it wasn't already. Dunn 5 goals.
78 - 103
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And another one. 6 goals to 2 this quarter. Don't let it blow out Tiges. Fight till the end.
78 - 109
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We gave up 4 goals from turnovers in the first 3 quarters. There's been 6 this quarter :help. Just tired and got run over.
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I have really enjoyed the game....Dees just a little too good.
What a shame we are bleeding goals in junk time.
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Tuck long from the centre and Jack takes only his 3rd mark. Misses again :-\
79 - 109
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Cuz high ball and it just travels barely 15m but Hicks takes a gutsy mark. Misses as well.
80 - 109
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Siren. Dees by 29
Rich 2.5 7.6 9.9 11.14-80
Melb 3.1 7.5 10.10 16.13-109
Goals: Graham 2, White 2, Cousins 2, Morton 2, King 2, Riewoldt
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In the scheme of things its a disappointing result but
1) they had more to play for than us- in effect there playing for finals and we are not
2) we were missing Cotchin, Foley, Griffiths (who adds structure) and lets say Tambling
3) they have classier players in general but
4) we have a better game plan and Hardwick is on the right track
5) we lost but our draft position will be good and we will get a real good player.
6) the Demons are not that much infront of us as they think they are
7) with a good draft we could go past Melbourne in a hurry under Hardwick.
8) we have lots of good triers but lets be honest, we need some more class.
9) we need a good draft and continued development
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Outclassed in the end. They were just cleaner and far more systematic than we were. Our play forward of centre and inside 50 was poor. Too many long kicks in hope rather than spot ups and marks of the lead. Melbourne spent all day feeding off them and then slicing us up on the rebound. Their footskills especially after quarter-time killed us. We just had too many possessions that didn't find a target forward of centre.
Jacko, Newy, Cuz, Morton and even Whitey were in our best today for mine. Disappointing games from Jack and Lids. We really missed Cotch's class in the midfield. Need to dip in the draft for more classier players.
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The result was disappointing ,however we matched it with a team thats at least 12 months further in its development.The one very disappointing thing for me today was watching connors butcher the ball because he was trying to be a smart alec
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Who was on Dunn today????
Sick of these part time senior players like him damaging us because we show them no respect. Happens all too often.
Some no name dud always pops up and kicks a bag against us
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Who was on Dunn today????
Sick of these part time senior players like him damaging us because we show them no respect. Happens all too often.
Some no name dud always pops up and kicks a bag against us
Lids and Moore Daniel. He kicked a couple on Moore. I agree its always these hack types that kill us(see corey Jones, aaron edwards debut game, the list goes on).
On the game, good effort but got to use the ball better. A bit dissapointed in players like mcguane, connors, moore.
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Who was on Dunn today????
Sick of these part time senior players like him damaging us because we show them no respect. Happens all too often.
Some no name dud always pops up and kicks a bag against us
Lids and Moore Daniel. He kicked a couple on Moore. I agree its always these hack types that kill us(see corey Jones, aaron edwards debut game, the list goes on).
On the game, good effort but got to use the ball better. A bit dissapointed in players like mcguane, connors, moore.
Yeah but this year was always going to turn out like it has. We all know that we need more class in the side and we need better footballers. And for all the positiveness of the season, people shouldnt forget that we are 15th on the ladder. That means we have alot of work to do as a club in the offseason.
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Melbourne's success is on the back of an All Australian season by Brad Green (30), and enourmous improvement in Mark Jamar (27).
Our success this year is on the back of Jack Riewoldts improvement, Deledio's new role. Our future.
I'd rather be us then them. Ge Jurrah can play though.
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Melbourne's success is on the back of an All Australian season by Brad Green (30), and enourmous improvement in Mark Jamar (27).
Our success this year is on the back of Jack Riewoldts improvement, Deledio's new role. Our future.
I'd rather be us then them. Ge Jurrah can play though.
keep telling urself that, these guys are in great form yes, but the scope to come from their young blokes is huge and is understated even this season. Melbourne had 9 or 10 first round draft picks not playing today. Everyone knows you have a better chance in unearthing a good player with early draft picks, they have positioned themselves beutifully andwil continue to unearth gems next seasons as they get more and more games into this bluechip talent
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Did they play zone or man on man for most of the day?
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good old fashioned man on man slog for the most part al
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Melbourne's success is on the back of an All Australian season by Brad Green (30), and enourmous improvement in Mark Jamar (27).
Our success this year is on the back of Jack Riewoldts improvement, Deledio's new role. Our future.
I'd rather be us then them. Ge Jurrah can play though.
Ooh my Pope you are living in la la land. You cant be serious?
The dees are well placed to play finals and win a flag within 3 years. If given as choice right now at the minute bias aside ill take their list any day of the week.
We havent seen anything of so many of the draft picks and Watts has shown only glimpses.
They are in the position they are in because they successfully managed their list resisting the temptation for cheap wins. They have built a very good list by bottoming out when the need arose.
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Melbourne's success is on the back of an All Australian season by Brad Green (30), and enourmous improvement in Mark Jamar (27).
Our success this year is on the back of Jack Riewoldts improvement, Deledio's new role. Our future.
I'd rather be us then them. Ge Jurrah can play though.
Ooh my Pope you are living in la la land. You cant be serious?
The dees are well placed to play finals and win a flag within 3 years. If given as choice right now at the minute bias aside ill take their list any day of the week.
We havent seen anything of so many of the draft picks and Watts has shown only glimpses.
They are in the position they are in because they successfully managed their list resisting the temptation for cheap wins. They have built a very good list by bottoming out when the need arose.
;D his serious Daniel :rollin
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good old fashioned man on man slog for the most part al
Cheers Tony
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Melbourne's success is on the back of an All Australian season by Brad Green (30), and enourmous improvement in Mark Jamar (27).
Our success this year is on the back of Jack Riewoldts improvement, Deledio's new role. Our future.
I'd rather be us then them. Ge Jurrah can play though.
Ooh my Pope you are living in la la land. You cant be serious?
The dees are well placed to play finals and win a flag within 3 years. If given as choice right now at the minute bias aside ill take their list any day of the week.
We havent seen anything of so many of the draft picks and Watts has shown only glimpses.
They are in the position they are in because they successfully managed their list resisting the temptation for cheap wins. They have built a very good list by bottoming out when the need arose.
;D his serious Daniel :rollin
yeah but as a club we have never taken our medicine, cheap wins in search of that 'winning culture" lol ... almost as bad as that shinboner spirit poo that North comes out with. as ian wilson once said you cant turn poo into raspberry jam. we need more quality.
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The main difference in yesterday's game was one James Frawley. He seriously towled up Jackand wore him like a wrist watch. He was also strategic in setting up their drives forward on many occasions.
At 21 this kid has a massive future. I think he'll be better than both Scarlett and Lake in the very near future.
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The main difference in yesterday's game was one James Frawley. He seriously towled up Jackand wore him like a wrist watch. He was also strategic in setting up their drives forward on many occasions.
At 21 this kid has a massive future. I think he'll be better than both Scarlett and Lake in the very near future.
He played well, but I'd hardly say it was a lone hand. Every time the ball came down Jack had 2 or 3 hanging off him. Add to that the massive flood they put on in our forward line most of the game, and they were hardly condusive conditions for Jack to star.
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The main difference in yesterday's game was one James Frawley. He seriously towled up Jackand wore him like a wrist watch. He was also strategic in setting up their drives forward on many occasions.
At 21 this kid has a massive future. I think he'll be better than both Scarlett and Lake in the very near future.
Reiwoldt missed a coupe of sitters, should have got 3 glaring freekicks from frawley holding an arm/chopping an arm. If the ball fell his way he couldve comfortably hd 4-5 on a quiet day. Frawley is good will be very good but wasnt the smashing some are suggesting
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Melbourne are far more advanced than us in their rebuild. Really need a good foil for Jack up forward. Disappointed let get away in 4th quarter. Couple of our players down
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Coaches' votes (Hardwick and Bailey)
9 James Frawley (Melb)
8 Lynden Dunn (Melb)
7 Brad Green (Melb)
3 Daniel Jackson (Rich)
2 Aaron Davey (Melb)
1 Tom Scully (Melb)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/99992/default.aspx
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The same thing happened to Jack that Richo used to cop all the time. He'd have two or three blokes hanging off him all day long, and maybe a ruckman clogging up his leading space. Then the opposition coach and the media would drool with superlatives about what a top effort his nominal opponent had done in keeping him to one or two goals.
I agree with Tony Montana too. I saw at least one or two instances where Fraudley got away with pulling his arm. But then it's gotten to the stage now where you just take it as a given that the umpiring will be against us every week.
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Spot on RR one instance where he clearly had a grip on his arm for a lengthy time, it was plain for all to see but the stupid umps
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The same thing happened to Jack that Richo used to cop all the time. He'd have two or three blokes hanging off him all day long, and maybe a ruckman clogging up his leading space. Then the opposition coach and the media would drool with superlatives about what a top effort his nominal opponent had done in keeping him to one or two goals.
I agree with Tony Montana too. I saw at least one or two instances where Fraudley got away with pulling his arm. But then it's gotten to the stage now where you just take it as a given that the umpiring will be against us every week.
Great post RR
The difference is Spud and the tanned never tried different things to find that other avenue to goal.
Dimma knows he has a real problem down there as we are seriously struggling to find someone to help Jack out. Griffiths looks the closest to being someone but who knows how he will end up. We dont even know if he can play.
We are still lacking quality players and that person who about a month ago said the rebuild is complete well time to wake up pal and smell the roses.
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Hardwick has always said that the forward structure would be last to be fixed. People should show some patience and more confidence in the coach and his assistants.
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l would call it having too many runts when tall players were required ;D
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l would call it having too many runts when tall players were required ;D
Yep! The structure of the forward line was just all wrong, with Jack and five crumbers. Vickery should have been in at CHF. Pushing first McGuane down there (which didn't really work last week, except for a crumbing goal), then Thursfield was just a desperate gambit,and an admission that he'd structured up wrong.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Hardwick critic. I think he's doing a fantastic job, and has brought us a long way in a short space of time. But based on selections and things he's said I suspect he thinks it's a liability to carry too many rucks, and robs us of running power. But with Griffiths injured and Post out of form, I don't think we have too many options other than Vickery. I hope he fixes this against Carlton.
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We are still lacking quality players and that person who about a month ago said the rebuild is complete well time to wake up pal and smell the roses.
-Er -that would be me Daniel (kind of). And in my defence, I never actually said the re-build was complete. Far fom it. There's still a lot of holes on our list. I said, now that we have a better resourced recruiting and talent-spotting network there's no need to lie low for several years anymore, picking up the absolute cream of the draft. With smart recruiting I still believe we can keep playing to win, and still look to pick up quality players a little deeper in the draft.
Don't forget, we still haven't seen many of last year's draftees yet, like Grimes, O'Reilly, Contin and Westhoff, as well as Gourdis (from an earlier draft) whose form at Coburg would suggest that he should have been given a few games by now.