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Title: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: one-eyed on August 02, 2010, 03:28:36 PM
Here's the audio of Newman on SEN earlier today:

http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/814 (http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/814)
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: one-eyed on August 02, 2010, 03:29:43 PM
If players had their way, Cousins would stay
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
Mon 02 August, 2010



RICHMOND captain Chris Newman says his players love playing with Ben Cousins as the veteran midfielder approaches the end of what could be his final season in the AFL.

Cousins has said he would like to go around again but the club says it will wait until the end of the year to make what it calls “a list management decision”.

The 32-year-old has played 13 games this season for 28 for the club since being taken with the last pick in the 2008 NAB AFL Pre-season Draft, after 238 games, a premiership and a Brownlow Medal while playing for West Coast.

Cousins played his best game for the Tigers in Sunday’s fighting win over Adelaide at the MCG, fuelling more speculation regarding his future.

“I’m not sure what the club will do at the end of the year, whether they will seek out our advice or not,” Newman told radio station SEN on Monday morning.

“I think it really is a club decision - as far as the players go, we love playing with Ben.

“He offers a lot of leadership on-field and off the field, and I think you could see it on the weekend - he was very clean with the footy and he’s running on top of the ground.

“I think the best thing with Ben is he’s playing for his football career, so he’s really enjoying it, and we’re really enjoying playing with him.”

Coach Damien Hardwick was very happy with Cousins after the Adelaide win.

“You never lose your ability, you just lose your confidence, and Ben - to his credit - is playing some really good football,” he said.

“It’s fantastic to see him up and going - he’s infectious when he’s lively, and the guys enjoy playing with him, and he’s had another good game, which is a great result for him.

“He’s a great leader and a very good player, and what he does is communicate well and he teaches as well.

“He’s been a very good player for our footy club.

“We’ll make a list management decision at the end of the year.”

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/99494/default.aspx
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 02, 2010, 03:39:22 PM
Richmond have a very young list.

White and mcgaune are now senior players in terms of games played, ad very few players next season will be older than foley who is only 24 yoa now.

Must be room for at least one old player.
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: Ramps on August 02, 2010, 04:48:53 PM
if they gonna keep tuck and king theres no way they shouldnt keep cousins.
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: Danog on August 02, 2010, 04:52:13 PM
1 more year.  We're going to have 1 more big cleanout (at least 8 I'd say), so his experience will be invaluable for the newbies.
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: Smokey on August 02, 2010, 05:00:49 PM
1 more year.  We're going to have 1 more big cleanout (at least 8 I'd say), so his experience will be invaluable for the newbies.

Yep, agree.
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: Ramps on August 02, 2010, 05:13:33 PM
1 more year.  We're going to have 1 more big cleanout (at least 8 I'd say), so his experience will be invaluable for the newbies.

Name Names Dan ... Who you sending to Centrelink?
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 02, 2010, 05:21:56 PM
1 more year.  We're going to have 1 more big cleanout (at least 8 I'd say), so his experience will be invaluable for the newbies.
I agree also.
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: Danog on August 02, 2010, 05:38:18 PM
1 more year.  We're going to have 1 more big cleanout (at least 8 I'd say), so his experience will be invaluable for the newbies.

Name Names Dan ... Who you sending to Centrelink?
I don't have any kind of inside knowledge if that's what you're asking.  The players I think will be moved on are:

McMahon
Simmonds
Polo (trade; if can't, delist)
Thomson
Nahas (trade; would delist but has a year to run on his contract)
Roberts
Polak
Gilligan

I'd include Hislop in that, but apparently he was told that his mid-year surgery was to make sure he's 100% for next year's pre-season.  Hardwick must have a spot for him up forward.  I try to like Hislop, but he's just too slow for my liking.  Needs better discipline too.
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: torch on August 02, 2010, 06:20:01 PM
1 more year.  We're going to have 1 more big cleanout (at least 8 I'd say), so his experience will be invaluable for the newbies.

Name Names Dan ... Who you sending to Centrelink?
I don't have any kind of inside knowledge if that's what you're asking.  The players I think will be moved on are:

McMahon
Simmonds
Polo (trade; if can't, delist)
Thomson
Nahas (trade; would delist but has a year to run on his contract)
Roberts
Polak
Gilligan

I'd include Hislop in that, but apparently he was told that his mid-year surgery was to make sure he's 100% for next year's pre-season.  Hardwick must have a spot for him up forward.  I try to like Hislop, but he's just too slow for my liking.  Needs better discipline too.

GOD I HOPE NOT!

any evidence Danog?
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: Danog on August 02, 2010, 07:06:14 PM
Read it somewhere on yellowandblack.com.au

I'm not going to go trawling through all the forum posts to find it, though ;)
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: torch on August 02, 2010, 07:08:08 PM
Read it somewhere on yellowandblack.com.au

I'm not going to go trawling through all the forum posts to find it, though ;)

Hope your wrong.
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 02, 2010, 09:13:55 PM
GOD I HOPE NOT!

any evidence Danog?

Is the horse's mouth good enough for ya  ;D
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: Mr Magic on August 02, 2010, 11:04:33 PM
Dimma is handling this perfectly.
Wait until year's end and not bow to supporter, player or media pressure.
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: blaisee on August 03, 2010, 06:08:15 AM
cuz is gone at the end of the year
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 03, 2010, 09:14:59 AM
GOD I HOPE NOT!

any evidence Danog?

Is the horse's mouth good enough for ya  ;D

is that fair dinkum? i dont understand what use it is to have Hislop in our team.  :banghead :banghead

how many players like him do we play in our team. Might as well keep polo too.

Hislop= DUD
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 03, 2010, 11:38:04 AM
isnt it great that newman is now in the top 3 or 4 captains in the afl
been a while since we had a great captain
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: wayne on August 03, 2010, 11:42:22 AM
cuz is gone at the end of the year

I reckon you may be right. The club doesn't want anymore of the drama before round 1 this year and again with the sleeping tablets, anymore.
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 03, 2010, 12:27:32 PM
maybe hislop may turn into a Max Rookie type forward who goes around thumping people

GOD I HOPE NOT!

any evidence Danog?

Is the horse's mouth good enough for ya  ;D

is that fair dinkum? i dont understand what use it is to have Hislop in our team.  :banghead :banghead

how many players like him do we play in our team. Might as well keep polo too.

Hislop= DUD
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: Mr Magic on August 03, 2010, 03:23:44 PM
cuz is gone at the end of the year

Reckon you're right.
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: yellowandback on August 03, 2010, 03:57:50 PM
cuz is gone at the end of the year

Reckon you're right.

Whether he stays or finishes up:-

i. It has been a success for player, club and AFL
ii. By not responding to the press or player comments, it is a great sign from RFC that the players, media and coterie/ex players NO LONGER RUN THE CLUB
iii. Despite the thoughts on many - especially on fan forums,  we'll be fine if he retires

Having said all of that, I would love him to play out this year and play a full year next to chalk up 50 games with the club - he's a champ.

But it ain't my call and I'll respect whatever the club decides because I reckon these buggers are finally getting it right.
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: 3rogerd on August 03, 2010, 08:34:32 PM
cuz is gone at the end of the year

you forgot one of these :shh
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: torch on August 03, 2010, 08:48:19 PM
GOD I HOPE NOT!

any evidence Danog?

Is the horse's mouth good enough for ya  ;D

is that fair dinkum? i dont understand what use it is to have Hislop in our team.  :banghead :banghead

how many players like him do we play in our team. Might as well keep polo too.

Hislop= DUD

Yep! Might as well!

 :banghead
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 03, 2010, 08:51:11 PM
cuz is gone at the end of the year

you forgot one of these :shh

and one of these  ;)
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 03, 2010, 09:41:22 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: mightytiges on August 04, 2010, 06:22:24 AM
I could understand the logic of tapping Cuz on the shoulder at the end of the season because we want to play a talented young cub in his place next year. However to offload Cuz yet keep a dud like Hislop on our  list makes no sense whatsoever  :help.
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 04, 2010, 08:29:26 AM
I could understand the logic of tapping Cuz on the shoulder at the end of the season because we want to play a talented young cub in his place next year. However to offload Cuz yet keep a dud like Hislop on our  list makes no sense whatsoever  :help.

i really want cuz to play on next yr but this decision if he is let go has nothing to do with his leadership or ability but all because of his illness and his inability to get on top of it

from what i am aware of, he had 3 different gp's when he was only meant to be using the club doc only

my question is, why did he have 3 gp's and why didnt he tell all of them that he was seeing and being open to all and the club what prescriptions he is on

many of u think that sleeping tablet saga is forgotten, and was a simple mistake, well all im gonna say is ,  ;) ;) :shh :shh
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: ros on August 04, 2010, 12:13:53 PM
I could understand the logic of tapping Cuz on the shoulder at the end of the season because we want to play a talented young cub in his place next year. However to offload Cuz yet keep a dud like Hislop on our  list makes no sense whatsoever  :help.

i really want cuz to play on next yr but this decision if he is let go has nothing to do with his leadership or ability but all because of his illness and his inability to get on top of it

from what i am aware of, he had 3 different gp's when he was only meant to be using the club doc only

my question is, why did he have 3 gp's and why didnt he tell all of them that he was seeing and being open to all and the club what prescriptions he is on

is ,  ;) ;) :shh :shh


Who told you he is only supposed to see the club doctor?  Is the club doctor an addiction specialist or has experience in drug rehab.     

How do you know what he did and didn't tell his doctors?

Tell us more ! if you can back up what you say no need for  :shh :shh


Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: eliminator on August 04, 2010, 05:06:27 PM
Hope Cousins is kept on for next year. Good influence on the field
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 04, 2010, 05:51:09 PM
I could understand the logic of tapping Cuz on the shoulder at the end of the season because we want to play a talented young cub in his place next year. However to offload Cuz yet keep a dud like Hislop on our  list makes no sense whatsoever  :help.

thats they difference bewteen List management and List Butchering ::)
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: Mr Magic on August 04, 2010, 06:01:18 PM
However to offload Cuz yet keep a dud like Hislop on our  list makes no sense whatsoever  :help.

Agree.

Hislop? Are they for real? :lol

Must be due to the injury he sustained is my only thought ala Petts in 2008.
Title: Re: Newman on SEN ..... If players had their way, Cousins would stay
Post by: Mopsy on August 04, 2010, 07:18:43 PM
However to offload Cuz yet keep a dud like Hislop on our  list makes no sense whatsoever  :help.

Agree.

Hislop? Are they for real? :lol

Must be due to the injury he sustained is my only thought ala Petts in 2008.
it's called 'duty of care' - send them off as they came.