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Football => View from the Outer => Topic started by: jackstar is back again on September 09, 2010, 06:10:55 PM
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leigh matthews met with Essendon today, stay tuned ;)
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Great pickup for them if true, as long as he doesn't expect success within 2-3 years. Footy is coming more back towards the Matthews way too IMHO, the Hawks/St Kilda zone was a departure from Matthews aggressive, contested footy but its come back around to the way his Lions used to play.
Has any coach won premierships @ three clubs?
Has any footballer/coach won premierships @ four clubs?
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leigh matthews met with Essendon today, stay tuned ;)
And the your point is?
Actually does this make Leigh a liar? Seeing he was asked last week if was interested and he said he WOULDN'T be coaching Essendon or anyone else in 2011
Has the thought crossed your mind that perhaps he was there to give them some advice on what to look for when choosing their next coach
Personally I don't care one way oar another what the Bumblings do - they created the mess they find themselves in ...they deserve all the grief that goes with it :rollin
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Look WP.
he was interviewed by essendon today for the vacant coaching position, end of subject!
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Look WP.
he was interviewed by essendon today for the vacant coaching position, end of subject!
Jack, your track record on who's going to coach where ain't good
For three years you said Sheeds would be coaching Richmond
Keep the subject open a bit longer lol
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only tell you what I know, please yourself
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jack i reckon that meeting with Leigh is their one big shot at a biggie and if that fails which it might then they will settle for the so called second stringers
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Lethal said last weekend on 3aw that there is still the thought of coaching but that confirms to him he doesn't want to coach again.
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Lethal said last weekend on 3aw that there is still the thought of coaching but that confirms to him he doesn't want to coach again.
And I can confirm that certain people who sit next to Leigh in the 3AW box say that they think he will coach as well ;)
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If he wants to coach again wouldnt he be better off waiting till next year when alot more coachs are out on contract. He could get a job with a club that has there list in alot better shape.
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Alan Richardson seems to be the favourite amongst Bomber fans.
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Alan Richardson seems to be the favourite amongst Bomber fans.
Unfortunately for him, the fans dont pick the coach
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Unfortunately for him, the fans dont pick the coach
So the fans only sack the coach at Windy Hill ;D
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Unfortunately for him, the fans dont pick the coach
So the fans only sack the coach at Windy Hill ;D
CORRECT !
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Unfortunately for him, the fans dont pick the coach
So the fans only sack the coach at Windy Hill ;D
:lol
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Ron Barassi, David Parkin, Alan Jeans & Denis Pagan also in the mix.
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Good story at Windy Hill.
The day that Knights got the flick, there Cricket Club sacked there Coach Ritchie Robinson, he was only 6 weeks into his role.
Whats next there, they sack the Clubs lawn Bowls coach
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Well Leigh Matthews was seen talking to Brad Johnson today at the Whitten Oval...watch out Rodney Eade :rollin
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watch out Rodney Eade
Eade may have to watch out anyway. The doggies premiership window looks shut.
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SEN saying there's been a massive plunge in the betting for the Essendon coaching job on James Hird.
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SEN now saying the bookies have suspended betting over this flood of money for Hird.
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With Matthews as mentor???
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It would be surprising to see Matthews working for Hawthorn's archenemy given how much he and the Hawks hated Essendon in the 80s.
If Hird does a Voss as coach then it'll be a good thing lol.
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I backed Leigh last week at the 26-1 ;)
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SEN saying there's been a massive plunge in the betting for the Essendon coaching job on James Hird.
Is there any reason why this is so? has someone seen Hird meeting with bombers board members or something.
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No, but Leigh Matthews has ;)
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Mike and Healy 'On the Couch' asked Hird about coaching Essendon next year and Hird got all prickly and said he's answered this question at least 10 times the same way in the past 6 weeks and he has nothing to add to it. Mike pushed harder for a definite "no" but Hird refused to rule it out completely so the rumour mill will keep on growing.
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Mike and Healy 'On the Couch' asked Hird about coaching Essendon next year and Hird got all prickly and said he's answered this question at least 10 times the same way in the past 6 weeks and he has nothing to add to it. Mike pushed harder for a definite "no" but Hird refused to rule it out completely so the rumour mill will keep on growing.
why doesnt he just either say no and rule him self out so they stop asking or just say yes i would like to be the coach and is run for the job and will wait to see if his selected by the board.
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From Tim Goossage's twitter page:
"James Hird interviewed at Essendon on Tuesday... my Bomber spy says absolutely yes."
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Hird likely to coach Dons
Caroline Wilson
September 22, 2010
THE romantic prospect of James Hird returning to Essendon in a senior coaching role now looks certain to become a reality, with the club legend considering his business and family commitments as the Bombers piece together a new off-field football structure for the embattled club.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/hird-likely-to-coach-dons-20100921-15lc0.html
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It'll boost memberships if Hird coaches, but i hope he turns out to be a Tim Watson.
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Whispers on 3aw saying Dean Laidley is going to be interviewed tomorrow for the senior gig. Hird to be his assistant coach and heir apparent. Simon Goodwin to also join the new Bombers' coaching staff.
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Essendon to announce there coach at there B & F, when ever that is
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Essendon to announce there coach at there B & F, when ever that is
I think it maybe next week Jack
They must have thought they were going to be deep into September :lol :lol
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I Hird today "From an impeccable source" that James Hird will be named as the new coach (Outright) the week following the GF ;)
Go Bananas ;D
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Sounds like you're right Howler.
Former premiership teammates of Hird insisted on Saturday that a three-man ticket had succeeded. Those three men are believed to be Hird, Williams and Dean Wallis, who has quit as an assistant coach at Fremantle and returned to Melbourne.
One former Essendon player insisted some board members wanted Williams to coach for two years with Hird as an assistant.
Instead, Hird will take the reins from day one with the former Port Adelaide premiership coach as his assistant.
''It's a done deal,'' the former Essendon player said at a post-grand final function on Saturday night.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/williams-happy-to-be-no-2-to-hird-on-threeman-coaching-panel-20100926-15se2.html
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What happened to Leigh? :rollin
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What happened to Leigh? :rollin
Didnt want the job ;)
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What happened to Leigh? :rollin
Didnt want the job ;)
Actually does this make Leigh a liar? Seeing he was asked last week if was interested and he said he WOULDN'T be coaching Essendon or anyone else in 2011
Has the thought crossed your mind that perhaps he was there to give them some advice on what to look for when choosing their next coach
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What happened to Leigh? :rollin
Didnt want the job ;)
You're funny ! :rollin
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i actually know "'Barney "'
Works 6 months a year, heavily contracted with Channel 7 , 3AW and Devine Homes.
Earns more money working 6 months than most coaches working 11 months
Everytime he comes to melb, gets free accom at the Hyatt. etc
Does sportsmans nights for cash
Good job if you ask me !
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i actually know "'Barney "'
Works 6 months a year, heavily contracted with Channel 7 , 3AW and Devine Homes.
Earns more money working 6 months than most coaches working 11 months
Everytime he comes to melb, gets free accom at the Hyatt. etc
Does sportsmans nights for cash
Good job if you ask me !
Then why would he want to coach the Bombers?
Only a dill would think he would :shh
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i am sick of discussing things with you, absolute waste of time.
They sort him out for discussion, it would be stupid of them not to explore all options.
Essendon will announce there coach at ther B & F, whenever that is
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i am sick of discussing things with you, absolute waste of time.
It's an easy thing to do, stop responding :wallywink
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likewise you clown :birthday
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likewise you clown :birthday
Yeah, but it doesn't upset me, Bozo :birthday
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Sounds like you're right Howler.
Former premiership teammates of Hird insisted on Saturday that a three-man ticket had succeeded. Those three men are believed to be Hird, Williams and Dean Wallis, who has quit as an assistant coach at Fremantle and returned to Melbourne.
One former Essendon player insisted some board members wanted Williams to coach for two years with Hird as an assistant.
Instead, Hird will take the reins from day one with the former Port Adelaide premiership coach as his assistant.
''It's a done deal,'' the former Essendon player said at a post-grand final function on Saturday night.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/williams-happy-to-be-no-2-to-hird-on-threeman-coaching-panel-20100926-15se2.html
A massive risk going for a coach with no experience. As Voss is finding out being a great player doesn't mean you can coach. This sounds like the Bombers are more interested in the boost to memberships Hird becoming coach will bring rather than going for the best credentialled coach.
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Ch 7 news and 3aw saying Hird will be announced as Bombers' senior coach tonight.
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Ch 7 news and 3aw saying Hird will be announced as Bombers' senior coach tonight.
On the Couch the asked Hird again and he said that at the moment he isn't coach, but he would love to be.
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Massive risk by the Bombers.
I guess they need to get the one million or so dollars back from the Matty Knights payout.
The Essendon members will speak with their wallets and repay that million bucks for now.
Back to Stage 5 the Bombers go Optimism.
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Sounds like you're right Howler.
Former premiership teammates of Hird insisted on Saturday that a three-man ticket had succeeded. Those three men are believed to be Hird, Williams and Dean Wallis, who has quit as an assistant coach at Fremantle and returned to Melbourne.
One former Essendon player insisted some board members wanted Williams to coach for two years with Hird as an assistant.
Instead, Hird will take the reins from day one with the former Port Adelaide premiership coach as his assistant.
''It's a done deal,'' the former Essendon player said at a post-grand final function on Saturday night.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/williams-happy-to-be-no-2-to-hird-on-threeman-coaching-panel-20100926-15se2.html
A massive risk going for a coach with no experience. As Voss is finding out being a great player doesn't mean you can coach. This sounds like the Bombers are more interested in the boost to memberships Hird becoming coach will bring rather than going for the best credentialled coach.
He's being mentored by Timmy Watson :shh :wallywink
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I reckon the essendon list is weak.
If hird fails they have no golden child to fall back on
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I am so happy Essendon picked James Hird.
because he will fail!
Die Essendon Die!
:gotigers
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I am so happy Essendon picked James Hird.
because he will fail!
Die Essendon Die!
:gotigers
Hahahaha great post.
I think Hird will have what it takes to coach. Unfortunately he's inherited the worst list in the AFL that will get no concessions. He'll go through hell.
Hope he fails cause I hate Essendon. Always like Jimmy Hird though.
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On the Couch the asked Hird again and he said that at the moment he isn't coach, but he would love to be.
Yep Hird said he's put his name in and is going through the process. A totally different answer to his "I've answered that question 10 times and not going to say it again" response last week to Mike which nobody believed :wallywink.
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it will be announced this Friday Night at there B & F count ;)
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Hird is officially the coach for the next 4 years
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103306/default.aspx
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I hate Essendon hope the Egos boil over and the fans expect to much, like when Cousins came and the list just internally explodes...
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having something to do with the coach in the past, would think he wouldnt make it unless he has changed dramatically
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having something to do with the coach in the past, would think he wouldnt make it unless he has changed dramatically
That's Hird you're talking about Jackstar?
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having something to do with the coach in the past, would think he wouldnt make it unless he has changed dramatically
That's Hird you're talking about Jackstar?
Yes, I reckon he will struggle. thats why they willl prop him up
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Yes, I reckon he will struggle. thats why they willl prop him up
It's a bit of a worry when Hird says in his press conference that he's ready for the job because he watches a lot of football on telly and talks about footy with others.
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This will make the next 4 years at the bombers very interesting with there golden child Hirdy as coach.
I cant see him peaking early like vossy with a finals appearence in the first year as coach.
Hird appointment as coach cant really do any harm though unless he ends up with the wooden spoon in 4 years time. Currently they have a pretty shaky list no doubt his going to need to pick up some diamond in the roughs through the draft and have a few trades go his way over the next 4 years.
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Will be farcical. An appointment to sell memberships because their list is so weak.
He'll need all the luck he can get. He may be the golden boy now but if in two years Essendon are still bottom
6 the natives will start to get restless. Needs to get consistency into all those flashy players Knights has
brought to the club.
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Hird is officially the coach for the next 4 years
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103306/default.aspx
Who in their right mind gives any coach with no experience a 4-year contract ???.
Surely $$$ and boosting membership is the main driver of this. Most of it to pay off Knighter's final two years lol.
The Bombers are kidding themselves if they believe in instant results next year :lol.
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Hirdy says that the Bomber list won't change much :lol
Happy days!! :rollin
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Hirdy says that the Bomber list won't change much :lol
Happy days!! :rollin
At least we wont finish bottom
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Hird is officially the coach for the next 4 years
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103306/default.aspx
Who in their right mind gives any coach with no experience a 4-year contract ???.
Surely $$$ and boosting membership is the main driver of this. Most of it to pay off Knighter's final two years lol.
The Bombers are kidding themselves if they believe in instant results next year :lol.
Throwing around money like they are, paying off contracts and paying four year contracts to rookie coaches reminds me of the war between the Pies and Us in poaching each other's players in the early '80s. And we all know where we ended up after that - on the scrap heap. I hope they have a similar experience -)
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Hirdy says that the Bomber list won't change much :lol
Happy days!! :rollin
At least we wont finish bottom
Yeah Brisbane have that spot sown up
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Hird is officially the coach for the next 4 years
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103306/default.aspx
Who in their right mind gives any coach with no experience a 4-year contract ???.
Surely $$$ and boosting membership is the main driver of this. Most of it to pay off Knighter's final two years lol.
The Bombers are kidding themselves if they believe in instant results next year :lol.
Throwing around money like they are, paying off contracts and paying four year contracts to rookie coaches reminds me of the war between the Pies and Us in poaching each other's players in the early '80s. And we all know where we ended up after that - on the scrap heap. I hope they have a similar experience -)
LOL we can only hope :pray. Hird then gets sacked, cracks the sads and doesn't come back for 16 years after a self-imposed exile ;)
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LOL we can only hope :pray. Hird then gets sacked, cracks the sads and doesn't come back for 16 years after a self-imposed exile ;)
And they go on this long cycle of employing only Bomber players like we did
Looking foward to Mal Michael or someone next in 2015 lol
Wasn't he the bloke that kicked the wrong way for the Lions? Perfect choice :thumbsup
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LOL we can only hope :pray. Hird then gets sacked, cracks the sads and doesn't come back for 16 years after a self-imposed exile ;)
And they go on this long cycle of employing only Bomber players like we did
Looking foward to Mal Michael or someone next in 2015 lol
Wasn't he the bloke that kicked the wrong way for the Lions? Perfect choice :thumbsup
Whilst Hardwick and Bailey fight out premierships just as the Hird four year plan comes to its painful end.
I think the candidates of former Essendon players to coach from 2014 are
Ian McMullin
Brad Fox
Bradley Plain
Damian Cupido
Jason Laycock will be applying for the candidacy of the captain playing coach role.
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Yes, I reckon he will struggle. thats why they willl prop him up
It's a bit of a worry when Hird says in his press conference that he's ready for the job because he watches a lot of football on telly and talks about footy with others.
Jackster sounds more qualified than Hirdy ;D
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If Hird can get the right people around him then he will do alright, if one of those people ends up being Mark Thompson (which is not out of the question) then i'm positive he will make it as a coach. Hird has said he is looking at a slow build, he hasn't mentioned finals at all, he's taken a similar line as Hardwick (develop the list). We can all dream and salivate over the hopeful demise of one James Hird and we really should, but i'm not convinced this story is going to be a disaster for the essendon football club.
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If Hird can get the right people around him then he will do alright, if one of those people ends up being Mark Thompson (which is not out of the question) then i'm positive he will make it as a coach. Hird has said he is looking at a slow build, he hasn't mentioned finals at all, he's taken a similar line as Hardwick (develop the list). We can all dream and salivate over the hopeful demise of one James Hird and we really should, but i'm not convinced this story is going to be a disaster for the essendon football club.
Hird might want a slow build, but I don't think the supporters will.
They're feral!
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If Hird can get the right people around him then he will do alright, if one of those people ends up being Mark Thompson (which is not out of the question) then i'm positive he will make it as a coach. Hird has said he is looking at a slow build, he hasn't mentioned finals at all, he's taken a similar line as Hardwick (develop the list). We can all dream and salivate over the hopeful demise of one James Hird and we really should, but i'm not convinced this story is going to be a disaster for the essendon football club.
Hird might want a slow build, but I don't think the supporters will.
They're feral!
Reading Rohan Connolly's article the other day you'd reckon their list is young and star studded and will be close to flag favourites next year :lol :wallywink
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/players-have-the-talent-but-communication-is-key-20100928-15vsb.html
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"Popular belief has Hird taking on the worst group in the AFL at the worst possible time, given the heavily compromised drafts the league's about to go through"
who has a worse midfield group?
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Would love to see Essendon get 10 or so wins next year and just miss or make the eight and lay claim that it is the feel good Hird factor only for 2012 to be a reality check much like us in the first few years under Walla$$.
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Alan Richardson has quit Essendon and gone to Carlton as 2IC to Ratten.
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Essendon already internally at each other's throats. What a shame! ;D
Hiring opens old wounds at Dons
Mark Hawthorne
October 8, 2010
JAMES Hird's first decision as senior coach of Essendon - to re-hire former football manager and close friend Danny Corcoran - has opened some old wounds.
Corcoran was a central player in the unravelling of the club's salary-cap breaches of the 1990s, and a number of past Essendon board members and executives have told The Age they are furious with the decision to reappoint him to the club's football department.
''If I was still on the board, I would vote against him being back there,'' said former club director Don McKenzie.
Another former club director said: ''I think the fact that Danny Corcoran has been re-employed shows just how out of touch the current board and administration is with the club's own history.''
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/hiring-opens-old-wounds-at-dons-20101007-169sc.html
And Rohan Connolly is comparing Essendon now to like-ish Richmond post-1982....
The key figures of the past, with a sense of entitlement, are determined to have their public two bob's worth. Frankly, at the moment, they need to put a sock in it. The latest sooking concerns events 13 years old. Time to build a bridge, folks.
The back-biting and wielding of personal hatchets became an entrenched part of Essendon's culture even during Kevin Sheedy's successful 27-year reign. So much so that in the end, the coach was spending as much time shoring up his own support at board level as actually coaching the team.
Those stirring the pot would do well to remember what became of Richmond post-1982 - the Tigers' seventh grand final appearance in 16 seasons. As the club's fortunes faded, many of the group involved with that golden era became a sort of de facto Greek chorus, the go-to men for any comment on the latest Tigers disaster. They enjoyed the taste to the point they ended up more closely resembling those grumpy old men Statler and Waldorf hanging off the balcony in The Muppet Show.
It was funny by the end. But for Richmond, a disaster.
And it's exactly that sort of indulgence the less successful Essendon of today simply can't afford if it is to have any chance of restoring its tarnished reputation as a power of the AFL.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bombers-need-to-put-a-stop-to-the-war-of-words-20101007-169sd.html
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dont know the complete story but there was a massive fallout between Danny, and Sheeds and Danny and the club.
Good to see he is back there, they should now cement there spot on the bottom of the ladder
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cheats.
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dont know the complete story but there was a massive fallout between Danny, and Sheeds and Danny and the club.
Good to see he is back there, they should now cement there spot on the bottom of the ladder
With Hird not making any changes to their list and only using 3 draft picks they'll be one of the favourites :wallywink.
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he better have a game plan that only requires players to individually do very little.
otherwise it could be a long season ahead.
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Geelong assistant coach Brendan McCartney has quit the club to work with AFL rivals Essendon
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Geelong assistant coach Brendan McCartney has quit the club to work with AFL rivals Essendon
Mark Thompson is next then :whistle.
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It's Mark Thompson or else according to the Bombers
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-rejects-mark-williams-and-dean-laidley-as-coaches/story-e6frf9jf-1225940912963
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Saw this posted on BF :lol
(http://i51.tinypic.com/n5pzm1.jpg)
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I can vouch for Ms Gale calling him the same name :thumbsup