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Title: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: one-eyed on September 11, 2010, 10:05:45 PM
Next up is Collo.

Collo missed the first 3 games of the season before playing the next 4 including a season high 24 possie games against Freo in round 5. Then missed the Essendon and Hawthorn games before returning and having a mini-purple patch as a HFF kicking 11 goals in 5 games including the winner against the Swans. Missed the Adelaide and Melbourne games late in the season before returning for the final 3 rounds.


Career so far:
 
              Games  Avg Disp.  Marks   Tackles   G.B     In50
2007           -
2008           -
2009          10        19.1         4.4        2.9     8.2      2.9
2010          15        14.9         3.4        3.7    15.8     2.5

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=180 
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-richmond-tigers--andrew-collins-1 


How did we all rate Andy Collins' season?
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on September 11, 2010, 10:33:56 PM
Can make it i believe!
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: Tigermad20011 on September 11, 2010, 11:16:20 PM
Just a pass
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: mat073 on September 12, 2010, 01:25:10 AM
At the moment he is just a fringe player capable of a few  "cameo" performances.

2011 will be an interesting year for him.I think he would be a good size once he puts a bit more meat on.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: Infamy on September 12, 2010, 02:30:30 AM
Hard to judge his improvement based on his change in role. I still think he'd be better on the wing.
Good to see he played more games than last year, but needs to bulk up and hopefully play 22 games next year.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: Smokey on September 12, 2010, 06:59:07 AM
Hard to judge his improvement based on his change in role. I still think he'd be better on the wing.
Good to see he played more games than last year, but needs to bulk up and hopefully play 22 games next year.

Agree Infamy.  His change of role meant a review of my expectations for him from 2009 but I thought he grew into his new role as did many of the kids over the season and like you said, if he bulks up then he has plenty of upside and time.  Only gave him 6 for this season but I'm very happy to keep him and watch him develop.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: cub on September 12, 2010, 08:43:55 AM
Was gunna give a 5 but changed to a six for that effort after he got ko'd
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 12, 2010, 08:55:48 AM
 Andrew Collins might have trouble getting a game next season.

Tuck and Jackson both could be in the team ahead as both have more grunt.

Then the following in mix for mid size role;
taylor, Morton, dea, Oreilly, webberly, Connors, tambling, farmer, nason, Hicks, king, White, Edwards etc.

Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: cub on September 12, 2010, 09:03:52 AM
Andrew Collins might have trouble getting a game next season.

Tuck and Jackson both could be in the team ahead as both have more grunt.

Then the following in mix for mid size role;
taylor, Morton, dea, Oreilly, webberly, Connors, tambling, farmer, nason, Hicks, king, White, Edwards etc.



Yep! Seems strange to say about a team that won 6 and finished 15th, but we seem to be getting a bit of depth.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: Tigermad20011 on September 12, 2010, 09:28:34 AM

Then the following in mix for mid size role;
taylor, Morton, dea, Oreilly, webberly, Connors, tambling, farmer, nason, Hicks, king, White, Edwards etc.

Does not have to worry about Hicks, Oreilly. Both should not be on the list both should be just retained as rookies.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 12, 2010, 01:49:47 PM
Gave him a 4

Was disappointed with his efforts late in the season

Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: eliminator on September 12, 2010, 03:40:18 PM
Give him a 5. Like him up forward. Showed he was capable of kicking some good goals. Needs to bulk up and get more of the ball.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: Oiafi on September 12, 2010, 05:03:32 PM
I gave him 4. Close to a pass and winning the Sydney game nearly earnt him a 5. Even so I feel he was not consistent enough to earn the pass on the back of a few cameos. Liked the signs though, definitely have some expectations for the boy. He could be a keeper.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 12, 2010, 06:53:09 PM

Then the following in mix for mid size role;
taylor, Morton, dea, Oreilly, webberly, Connors, tambling, farmer, nason, Hicks, king, White, Edwards etc.

Does not have to worry about Hicks, Oreilly. Both should not be on the list both should be just retained as rookies.

Are you serious I thought O'Reilly was very good against St KIlda nad was really good against Port.

Anyway I gave Collo a 6. I think he is one of those depth players whose development over the next few years will determine whether we will become a flag contender or just a run of the mill 5-10 side at best.

We know Lids Cotch Martin Jack will be stars and A graders blokes like Collins Nason Webberley and such who are C graders will determine our potential premiership status if they can develop into B graders and have the ability to step up and have important impacts every week much like in the lets say Adam Simpson mould at the Roos or Heffernan at the Dons or blokes like Tim Notting at Bris who were real important to their teams flag success without taking the plaudits the stars did.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: Mr Magic on September 12, 2010, 07:35:42 PM
5 from me.
Needs to develop consistency as there is way too big a gap yet between the good and the bad.
Needs more strength(still) and disposal can be iffy.
50/50 to make it as a player IMO.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: gerkin greg on September 13, 2010, 01:39:40 PM
I'm giving him a 5 as well Margaret.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: Jacosh on September 13, 2010, 05:49:47 PM
Got a 5 from me, only just.  As many have said the gap between good and bad is way to big and he needs to put some meat on those bones.  Looks like a 12 year old out playing with his dad.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 13, 2010, 07:50:50 PM
love the way he goes about it.

will be a very good player for our football club
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: Mr Magic on October 19, 2010, 11:33:25 PM
Interesting to see in how most saw Andrew's season before he was a muted trade.
Geez the way some are carrying on around the place you'd think he was seen as a superstar. ???
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: mat073 on October 20, 2010, 01:54:23 PM
Interesting to see in how most saw Andrew's season before he was a muted trade.
Geez the way some are carrying on around the place you'd think he was seen as a superstar. ???

Spot on Mr Magic.

If you look up the word "expendable" in the dictionary there may be a photo of Andrew Collins next to it.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: tdy on October 20, 2010, 02:28:15 PM
Interesting to see in how most saw Andrew's season before he was a muted trade.
Geez the way some are carrying on around the place you'd think he was seen as a superstar. ???

Its just the rest of the list is only 5 and 6 ers too, so he looks pretty good in comparison.  He probably will make it at Carlton, but not a huge loss for us, as I doubt he will be a star.

Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 22, 2010, 02:30:29 PM

Then the following in mix for mid size role;
taylor, Morton, dea, Oreilly, webberly, Connors, tambling, farmer, nason, Hicks, king, White, Edwards etc.

Does not have to worry about Hicks, Oreilly. Both should not be on the list both should be just retained as rookies.

i would be happy for oreilly to be on the senior list.

hopfully in 2012 he will be
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: Carvels Ring on October 22, 2010, 02:57:25 PM
4 from me.  did improve, but still didnt do much.  Everyone is basing their opinions on his last qtr against the swans. pfft
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 24. Andrew Collins?
Post by: Stripes on October 22, 2010, 03:45:22 PM
Can we stop discussing Andy Collins! It's like ypur just broke up with a girl and all you can talk about with your new missus is how good the old girl was!  :banghead I'm no expert, but this doesn't make for a good start to a relationship in my view :weights  :help