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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 13, 2010, 12:54:44 PM
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It's just a week until the Brownlow so what are everyone's predictions.....
1. Overall winner?
2. Top 3 Tigers and their votes?
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1. Overall winner? - Swan
2. Top 3 Tigers and their votes? - Deledio 12, Riewoldt 11, Tuck 8.
3. Coleman? - J. Riewoldt
;D
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Winner: Dane Swan
Tigers:
Jack Riewoldt - 16
Bret Deledio - 12
Dustin Martin - 8
Modified..... :-[
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Winner: Dane Swan
Tigers:
Jack Riewoldt - 16
Bret Deledio - 12
Damien Martin - 8
ex cricketers cant win the Brownlow !!
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l put my money of Dane Swan & Collingwood at the start of the season :thumbsup Huge payout coming ;D
Richmond main vote getters
Newman 14
Cotchin 12 X
Martin 11
Rewoldt 10
Tuck 9
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Swan
Riewoldt 12
Newman 9
Martin 8
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Who cares ;D
Winner: Luke Hodge or Keirin Jack of the Swans ;D :rollin
Top 3 Tigers:
Jack - 9 votes
Lids - 6 votes
Newman 4 votes
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Swan looks a good thing but I'll go for some odds and say Sandilands
Tigers top 3
Riewoldt 10
Newman 7
Martin 6
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Swan is obviously favourite but I'll go against the obvious and say Goddard. There's a chance Pendlebury and Didak could take votes off Swan.
As for us we can forget about watching the first 7 rounds that's for sure.
R8 Haw - should get a vote or two at least
R10 Port - All 6 votes.
R11 St K - we lost by 38 but Jack should pick up votes for his 6 goals
R12 Bris - Most of the votes.
R13 WC - All 6 votes . Jack gets 3 for his 10 goals.
R14 Swans - Who knows despite winning as we came from behind.
R15 Freo - All over them in the 2nd half so we really should get all 6 votes.
R18 Adel - Similar to the Freo game although Vince will probably get votes for the Crows.
R19 Melb - Close game for 3 and half quarters so a Tiger should get a least a vote.
R21 St K - Jack again in the votes for kicking 6 goals.
R22 Port - Who knows as we were pathetic in the 2nd qtr and then all over them in the 2nd half. Boak should get 3 votes so maybe a Tiger with 1 or 2 votes.
Total around 36 votes.
Jack 10
Lids 8
Newy 7
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Swan is the obvious but with avg possies of 31 per game (only 1.5 less than Swan and he polled 22 votes 2 years ago averaging 28 touches), 40 goals and a good track record of polling, G Ablett will be decent odds and worth some money to win.
I'll call Goodes for top 3, 2nd most possies ever in his career and most goals in a season. gets votes when he doesn't play - should be juicy odds.
As for Tiggers?
Big Jack - number 1,
Lids
Newby
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Brendon Goddard for the Brownlow
Tiger points
Deledio 12
Tuck 11
Riewoldt 11
Connors 2
Cotch 1
Martin 1
Edwards 1
King 1
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Tiger points
Deledio 12
Tuck 11
Riewoldt 11
Good luck with that prediction
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If Dane Goose wins it im gonna throw up on the front of the lexus centre glass doors...again.
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Swan
Riewoldt 12
Newman 9
Martin 8
I will go with these ones as I think close along the same lines.
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1. Overall winner? The AFL they'll serve party pies and mini baguettes oh and Fev won't be there to annoy the golden child in Judd. As for the winner I think Swan too but would like to see Hodge or Sandilands win it.
2. Top 3 Tigers and their votes?
Jack 13
Lids 10
Newman 6
Martin 4
Nason 2
Graham 2
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AFL CLUB VOTES
By NICK QUINN
Sunday Herald-Sun
19 SEP 2010, Page 62
MOST clubs don't have a player with a realistic chance of winning the Brownlow, but with the numerous exotic markets on offer you can still have a bet on the players from your team.
Betting on which player will poll the most votes from each club is not only a great way to entertain yourself while watching the Brownlow, but also a great way to make some money.
THE BOOKIES' ODDS - TAB SPORTSBET
Dane Swan $1.90
Gary Ablett $4
Luke Hodge $9
Scott Pendlebury $11
Brendon Goddard $13
Chris Judd $15
Aaron Sandilands $17
Adam Goodes $21
Brent Harvey $21
Lenny Hayes $21
Joel Selwood $26
Leigh Montagna $34
YOUR CLUB TOP VOTE-GETTER
RICHMOND
$1.90 Jack Riewoldt
$2.75 Brett Deledio
$7.50 Shane Tuck
$11 Chris Newman
$21 Ben Cousins
$26 Any other Richmond player
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Winner G.Ablett with 24 votes after 12 rounds and will win it in round 22 with a 3 voter.
Tigers;
Riewoldt on 11
Lids with 8
Tuck 6
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Surprise surprise no votes in round 1
How about Anthony Hudson's commentary - "Different coach but same old story for Richmond" ::)
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Rounds 2,3,4,5 .... zip!
Sandilands with 12 votes after 5 rounds :o
Ablett 6
Hodge 5
Swan 5
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Rounds 6 and 7 zip
Round 8 vs Hawthorn .... yeah we finally got votes ;D
2. Cotchin
1. Jackson
Sam Mitchell got the 3
Leaders
Judd 15
Sandilands 13
Ablett 9
Swan 9
Priddis 9
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Judd 5 BOGs in a row!! :o
Certainly an umpires favourite, no-one to take votes from him and they won enough games....
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The umps certainly do love him. Remember Judd missed the first 3 games so that's 5 bogs from 5 games :o
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Round 9 vs Ess - zip!
Round 10 vs Port
3. Newman
2. Deledio
1. Tuck
Tiger tally:
Newy 3
Lids 2
Cotch 2
Tuck 1
Jacko 1
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Mundy polling well on 9
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Round 11 vs St Kilda
1. Jack Riewoldt
Tiger tally:
Newy 3
Lids 2
Cotch 2
Jack 1
Tuck 1
Jacko 1
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Leaders at the halfway mark
Judd 17
Sandilands 13
Ablett 12
Watson 12
Pendlebury 10
Swan 9
Mundy 9
Barlow 9
Pavlich 9
Boak 9
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Jack stiff not to get one vote against Essendon after kicking 6 goals.
Judd showing how much the Blues depend on him. Same with Watson at the Bombers.
Looks like Pendlebury and Swan will take votes off each other. What a shame! ;D
This will probably push Mundy's price up even further if he does want to move back to Vic.
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Round 12 vs Eagles
3. Reiwoldt
2. Deledio
1. Martin :thumbsup
Tiger tally:
Jack 4
Lids 4
Newy 3
Cotch 2
Martin 1
Tuck 1
Jacko 1
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The first of many for Dusty :yep :thumbsup
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Round 13 vs Brisbane
3. Deledio
2. Martin
Tiger tally:
Lids 7
Jack 4
Martin 3
Newy 3
Cotch 2
Tuck 1
Jacko 1
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Round 14 vs Sydney
2. Reiwoldt
Tiger tally:
Lids 7
Jack 6
Martin 3
Newy 3
Cotch 2
Tuck 1
Jacko 1
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Swan will need those 7 V's on the predictor to be 2's and 3's if he wants to catch Judd. Even then, Judd has 4 V's still to go!
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Leaders after R14
Judd 22
Ablett 14
Swan 14
Sandilands 14
Watson 13
Pods 13
Barlow 12
Goddard 11
Hayes 11
Mitchell 11
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Juddy has tea bagged it
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Judd's picking up 2 or 3 votes in every Carlton win. Agree with you gerkin that he's home.
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No offence to Jimmy Stynes, by why do we need crap like this on the Brownlow telecast, same goes with the Carlton 1970 flag story!! :scream
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Jimmy at least won a Brownlow but no idea why the 1970 GF is getting such airplay. Sure it was the biggest comeback in a GF but it was hardly the best GF ever ::) no matter what Carlton flogs say. 1967 and 1989 were superior IMO.
You've got to love what goes through the umps' minds sometimes btw. Swan had 38 possies, 14 marks and kicked 2 goals in round 14 yet received just 1 vote :lol.
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You've got to love what goes through the umps' minds sometimes btw. Swan had 38 possies, 14 marks and kicked 2 goals in round 14 yet received just 1 vote :lol.
Maybe the tatts scare them? :lol
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You've got to love what goes through the umps' minds sometimes btw. Swan had 38 possies, 14 marks and kicked 2 goals in round 14 yet received just 1 vote :lol.
Maybe the tatts scare them? :lol
:lol
Let's hope that's not the case for our Dusty in the future ;)
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Round 15 vs Fremantle
3. Connors
2. Martin
Tiger tally:
Lids 7
Jack 6
Martin 5
Newy 3
Connors 3
Cotch 2
Tuck 1
Jacko 1
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You've got to love what goes through the umps' minds sometimes btw. Swan had 38 possies, 14 marks and kicked 2 goals in round 14 yet received just 1 vote :lol.
Maybe the tatts scare them? :lol
:lol
Let's hope that's not the case for our Dusty in the future ;)
Another 2 in the Freo game.. maybe not :lol
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Was that Jack laughing out loud when Connors got 3 votes? ;D
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You've got to love what goes through the umps' minds sometimes btw. Swan had 38 possies, 14 marks and kicked 2 goals in round 14 yet received just 1 vote :lol.
Maybe the tatts scare them? :lol
:lol
Let's hope that's not the case for our Dusty in the future ;)
Another 2 in the Freo game.. maybe not :lol
Does Hannebury have any votes yet?
That "reprimand" for Martin proving to be a joke more and more as far as the rising star.
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leaders after round 16
Judd 22
Swan 18
Boyd 15
Sandilands 15
Ablett 14
Montagna 13
Selwood 13
Watson 13
Podsiadly 13
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Spoke too soon thinking Judd was home lol. We played the Pies in R17 and Swan had a lazy 37 possies and a goal :P.
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Round 15 vs Fremantle
3. Connors
2. Martin
Further proof that the umpires have no idea :rollin :rollin
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You've got to love what goes through the umps' minds sometimes btw. Swan had 38 possies, 14 marks and kicked 2 goals in round 14 yet received just 1 vote :lol.
Maybe the tatts scare them? :lol
:lol
Let's hope that's not the case for our Dusty in the future ;)
Another 2 in the Freo game.. maybe not :lol
Does Hannebury have any votes yet?
That "reprimand" for Martin proving to be a joke more and more as far as the rising star.
Think he got 3 in an early game.
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Spoke too soon thinking Judd was home lol. We played the Pies in R17 and Swan had a lazy 37 possies and a goal :P.
Judd slaughtered the Eagles though, 3 votes coming up.
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Spoke too soon thinking Judd was home lol. We played the Pies in R17 and Swan had a lazy 37 possies and a goal :P.
Judd slaughtered the Eagles though, 3 votes coming up.
Only 1 :o
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Round 18 vs Adelaide ..... the win in the hail ;D
3. Tuck
2. Cousins
1. Martin
Tiger tally:
Lids 7
Jack 6
Martin 6
Tuck 4
Newy 3
Connors 3
Cotch 2
Cuz 2
Jacko 1
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No votes for Swan when they pumped the Blues so Judd still leads. Andy D with the dramatics :wallywink
Dusty another game another vote :thumbsup
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Leaders after Round 18
Judd 23
Swan 21
Ablett 19
Boyd 18
Sandilands 17
Selwood 16
Watson 16
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Round 19 vs Melbourne
1. Jackson
Tiger tally:
Lids 7
Jack 6
Martin 6
Tuck 4
Newy 3
Connors 3
Cotch 2
Cuz 2
Jacko 2
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Judd another 3 votes and Swan, Ablett nil. leads by 5 with just 3 rounds to go
Judd going to hard to toss now.
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Leaders after round 20 .... Judd can't lose
Judd 29
Swan 23
Ablett 22
Hayes 19
Selwood 19
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Collingwood only just got over Adelaide so you'd doubt Swan will get 3 votes in both the last two games even if Judd doesn't get any.
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Good result, by far the best player in the competition.
Carlton are a rabble, Judd carries the whole of Lygon Street on his back every game.
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Round 15 vs Fremantle
3. Connors
2. Martin
Further proof that the umpires have no idea :rollin :rollin
LOL
DC had 35 possies that day so they obviously looked at the stats.
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judds got himself another brownlow.
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Round 21 vs St Kilda
1. Riewoldt
Tiger tally:
Lids 7
Jack 7
Martin 6
Tuck 4
Newy 3
Connors 3
Cotch 2
Cuz 2
Jacko 2
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Judd another 3 votes and Swan, Ablett nil. leads by 5 with just 3 rounds to go
Judd going to hard to toss now.
Should have been suspended after he made Pavlich bleed. I smell a conspiracy. :chuck
The AFL Golden Child prevails. :chuck
Was not BOG against us in round 20.
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Judd's won it!
Round 22 vs Port
1. Morton
Tiger final tally:
Lids 7
Jack 7
Martin 6
Tuck 4
Newy 3
Connors 3
Cotch 2
Cuz 2
Jacko 2
Morton 1
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Awesome seeing eddie gutted and Swan trying not to cry.
LOL - Now for the GF failure !
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Final Leaderboard:
Judd 30
Ablett 26
Swan 24
Pendlebury 21
Selwood 21
Boyd 20
Sandilands 20
Hayes 19
Tigers final tally:
Lids 7
Jack 7
Martin 6
Tuck 4
Newy 3
Connors 3
Cotch 2
Cuz 2
Jacko 2
Morton 1
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Congrats to Judd.
The AFL would have preferred it if Ablett had won it just as he was heading to the Gold Coast.
Awesome seeing eddie gutted and Swan trying not to cry.
LOL - Now for the GF failure !
:rollin :thumbsup
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Judd another 3 votes and Swan, Ablett nil. leads by 5 with just 3 rounds to go
Judd going to hard to toss now.
Should have been suspended after he made Pavlich bleed. I smell a conspiracy. :chuck
The AFL Golden Child prevails. :chuck
Was not BOG against us in round 20.
It's the umpires award TB.
Barlow Round 1 33 possessions and 2 goals in debut = 0 votes.
Its opinion based. Umpires opinion award. Happier to see someone like Judd win a Brownlow then a Cooney or Goodes.
He's the best player in the comp.
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Awesome seeing eddie gutted and Swan trying not to cry.
LOL - Now for the GF failure !
Totally agree, Eddie sore loser
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Judd another 3 votes and Swan, Ablett nil. leads by 5 with just 3 rounds to go
Judd going to hard to toss now.
Should have been suspended after he made Pavlich bleed. I smell a conspiracy. :chuck
The AFL Golden Child prevails. :chuck
Was not BOG against us in round 20.
Just reminder you, Judd mised the first 3 rounds
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Judd another 3 votes and Swan, Ablett nil. leads by 5 with just 3 rounds to go
Judd going to hard to toss now.
Should have been suspended after he made Pavlich bleed. I smell a conspiracy. :chuck
The AFL Golden Child prevails. :chuck
Was not BOG against us in round 20.
Just reminder you, Judd mised the first 3 rounds
Yep aware of that Jack.
Good luck to him. Just thought he should have been suspended.
I just hate Carlton.
Still Eddie's face was priceless too. :lol :rollin :lol
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Awesome seeing eddie gutted and Swan trying not to cry.
LOL - Now for the GF failure !
And I thought I was seeing things. Swan was on the verge of it and McGuire was thinking the same old - there all out to get collingwood poo.
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What an utter farce, Judd is not the best and fairest player in the league, not by a long way, 4 years ago maybe, but not today. I swear this game is getting more rigged by the year with contrived outcomes, It happens on feild as well as off. stuff me dead.
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Awesome seeing eddie gutted and Swan trying not to cry.
LOL - Now for the GF failure !
And I thought I was seeing things. Swan was on the verge of it and McGuire was thinking the same old - there all out to get collingwood poo.
I'll say this ramps if Mguire was upset with Judd winning as opposed to Swan losing then I agree with him. I just wonder who at AFL house is sucking Judds idiot.
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What an utter farce, Judd is not the best and fairest player in the league, not by a long way, 4 years ago maybe, but not today. I swear this game is getting more rigged by the year with contrived outcomes, It happens on feild as well as off. eff me dead.
I have to say I'm unable to mount an argument against you RRJ. There is no way in the wide world Judd was the best player in our competition this year and there is no way he should not have been reported and rubbed out for the strike on Pavlich. King or Jackson hit Pav the same way and they go for 4 weeks, no doubt in the world. Devalues the award when you see results like tonight.
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And I thought I was seeing things. Swan was on the verge of it and McGuire was thinking the same old - there all out to get collingwood poo.
We now all need to pray for a repeat of those looks from Eddie later this week! :pray
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How much football does everyone watch?
He also missed 3 game playing 19. He is always going to be top 3 at Carltons every win.
No other player in the league influences his teams performance more than Chris Judd. Collingwood would be fine without Swan same with Geelong without Ablett.
Carlton without Judd are a bottom 6 side.
Judd nearly single handedly won the final against Sydney in the 2nd and 3rd qtr.
This happens every year, Kerr taking votes off Couins, Voss taking votes off Lappin, Grant and West taking votes off each other.
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How much football does everyone watch?
He also missed 3 game playing 19. He is always going to be top 3 at Carltons every win.
No other player in the league influences his teams performance more than Chris Judd. Collingwood would be fine without Swan same with Geelong without Ablett.
Carlton without Judd are a bottom 6 side.
Judd nearly single handedly won the final against Sydney in the 2nd and 3rd qtr.
This happens every year, Kerr taking votes off Couins, Voss taking votes off Lappin, Grant and West taking votes off each other.
Watched every game this year
Deserved to win it.
I thought that Pies best player this year was pendlebury and not Swan, forget the rubbish the papers write
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l just watched the biggest crock of poo in Brownlow History
Dane Swan 3 votes in the last 5 rounds is outragoues.
Judd is no way the best player in the league & shows how the Brownlow can be rigged by umpires having favorites
another k down the drain on Brownlow again :o
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Judd is a deserving winner but the Brownlow isn't actually a best player in the league award though. KB, Royce, Carey, Ablett snr, etc never won one. It's just a 3-2-1 count for each game which favours those that star in the most games in one season rather than most consistent over a career. If they wanted to find the best and most consistent then all 44 players in each game would be given a vote out of 10 say as happens in B&Fs. Tonight simply shows that Carlton is really a one-man band with Judd getting seven 3-votes out of the Blues' 11 wins this year. Whereas Pendlebury and Swan took votes off each other that cost one of the them the medal. Sheesh Judd got 30 votes on his own whereas we as a whole team got just 37 votes :P.
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No other player in the league influences his teams performance more than Chris Judd.
True.
People have just had a reminder what a gun this bloke is.
He seems pretty full of himself though.
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Judd getting 3 votes in round 7 for 24 disposals is a farce :o
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Priceless! :lol :rollin
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Judd is a deserving winner but the Brownlow isn't actually a best player in the league award though. KB, Royce, Carey, Ablett snr, etc never won one. It's just a 3-2-1 count for each game which favours those that star in the most games in one season rather than most consistent over a career. If they wanted to find the best and most consistent then all 44 players in each game would be given a vote out of 10 say as happens in B&Fs. Tonight simply shows that Carlton is really a one-man band with Judd getting seven 3-votes out of the Blues' 11 wins this year. Whereas Pendlebury and Swan took votes off each other that cost one of the them the medal. Sheesh Judd got 30 votes on his own whereas we as a whole team got just 37 votes :P.
Yeah well said MT.
Alot has to eb said about Judd's leadership and how he carries himself on the ground. Brent Harvey is to North is what Judd is to Carlton but gets a qtr of as many votes. Harvey plays for free kicks and show boats after goals, as good as he is the umpires don't look to respect him. Judd rarely complains, scrags and more often than not plays within the rules. So he'll always be looked favourably by the umpires as he on field demeanor is as good as anyone.
Swan for example has the personality of a tree and shows no leadership on field and the only thing that stands out is his tatoos. Pendlebury is a more influential player than Swan.
There have been loads worst winners, Woewodin, Cooney, Goodes etc.
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Priceless! :lol :rollin
Bahahahhaa amazing great stuff MT.
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He might be their best player Pope but they only won 11 games and 1 of those was without Judd. To score 30 votes in a team that made the finals and only won 10 of the games he played in is just not reality. And its a moot point anyway because he should not have been eligible.
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Harvey plays for free kicks and show boats after goals, as good as he is the umpires don't look to respect him. Judd rarely complains, scrags and more often than not plays within the rules. So he'll always be looked favourably by the umpires as he on field demeanor is as good as anyone.
So a player that takes a deliberate swing at another and breaks his eye socket, or the same player who pokes an opponent in the eye and then publicly claims a 'martial arts move', or the same player that started the season late this year because he was found guilty of the low act of eye-gouging is worthy of the respect of the umpires but a player who celebrates a goal isn't? He was eligible for the medal last year because his suspension came in the finals and yet it had no carry over impact this year and you put him up as the one most worthy of respect? He is a morally bankrupt liar that was not the best player in our great game this year, end of story.
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Agree Smoke shouldn't have been eligible thats another argument.
You can poll votes in losing sides, it doesn't matter how many you win? Gary Ablett Snr won a Norm Smith in a losing side, so did Nathan Buckley. Jack Riewoldt polled in the loss to St.Kilda. Morton polled against Port and we lost?
Jack Riewoldt can win a Coleman from the 15th side that won 6 games, Judd can win the Brownlow from a team that won 11.
It's a traditional award that chosen by the officials that umpire the game. The MVP players award has holes as well being voted by the players, most who don't actually watch opposition games and vote on media perception. The most transparent award is the coaches votes awards on Channel 9.
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Harvey plays for free kicks and show boats after goals, as good as he is the umpires don't look to respect him. Judd rarely complains, scrags and more often than not plays within the rules. So he'll always be looked favourably by the umpires as he on field demeanor is as good as anyone.
So a player that takes a deliberate swing at another and breaks his eye socket, or the same player who pokes an opponent in the eye and then publicly claims a 'martial arts move', or the same player that started the season late this year because he was found guilty of the low act of eye-gouging is worthy of the respect of the umpires but a player who celebrates a goal isn't? He was eligible for the medal last year because his suspension came in the finals and yet it had no carry over impact this year and you put him up as the one most worthy of respect? He is a morally bankrupt liar that was not the best player in our great game this year, end of story.
You wont get an argument out of me that he shouldn't have been suspended for the eye gouge and the non suspension for the elbow was wrong. I wont even defend him that his treatment from McPhee was borderline assault and the elbow was out of frustration. He should have been suspended
I think you're drawing a low bow here smoke, Judd is fairer than most in the competition, he's had 2-3 misdemeanors of suspendable offences in his whole career.
To answer the question I think its easier to respect a guy like Judd who carries himself the way he does quietly getting the job done on the footy field over Brent Harvey who plays for free kicks and celebrates a goal like Ronaldo. With all due respect to Brent Harvey but its an example.
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Priceless! :lol :rollin
Bahahahhaa amazing great stuff MT.
Hopefully Ed has the same expression at the 28th mark of the last quarter this Saturday ;)
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No other player in the league influences his teams performance more than Chris Judd.
True.
People have just had a reminder what a gun this bloke is.
He seems pretty full of himself though.
Agree re gun.
Totally disagree re full of himself. Was nothing but humble, very impressive victory speech. Put a lot of other players in their place re their status in society.
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At least you still got 24 votes Dane. Geoff Raines got none :P when he was favourite in 1980.
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Tomorrows paper....
Eddie wants the voting to be carried out by the coaches and players and not the umpires........
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Tomorrows paper....
Eddie wants the voting to be carried out by the coaches and players and not the umpires........
LOL. Eddie will sook and it'll be no surprise if/when he actually says that this morning on his radio show. It'll be the whole world is against Collingwood again :sleep.
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At least you still got 24 votes Dane. Geoff Raines got none :P when he was favourite in 1980.
FLFLFLFOFFOFLFOFLLLL
Little ink-turd.
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Brownlow Votes per Club....
GEELONG 104
COLL'WOOD 89
SYDNEY 88
W.BULLDOGS 86
ST KILDA 83
FREMANTLE 75
CARLTON 71 ...... Judd got 30 so almost half the Blues vote
HAWTHORN 70
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MELBOURNE 64
PORT ADEL 57
NORTH MELB 56
ADELAIDE 53
BRISBANE 49
ESSENDON 43
RICHMOND 37 - Deledio, Riewoldt 7, Martin* 6, Tuck 4, Connors, Newman 3, Cotchin*, Cousins, Jackson* 2, Morton 1
WEST COAST 31
* - ineligible
Richmond Brownlow votes per Round
3 2 1
R1 v Carl - - -
R2 v WB - - -
R3 v Syd - - -
R4 v Melb - - -
R5 v Freo - - -
R6 v Geel - - -
R7 v Adel - - -
R8 v Haw - Cotchin Jackson
R9 v Ess - - -
R10 v Port Newman Deledio Tuck
R11 v StK - - Riewoldt
R12 v WCE Riewoldt Deledio Martin
R13 v Bris Deledio Martin -
R14 v Syd - Riewoldt -
R15 v Freo Connors Martin -
R16 v Nth - - -
R17 v Coll - - -
R18 v Adel Tuck Cousins Martin
R19 v Melb - - Jackson
R20 v Carl - - -
R21 v StK - - Riewoldt
R22 v Port - - Morton
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Not sure how Collins didn't at least get 1 vote against Sydney...
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LOL
DC had 35 possies that day so they obviously looked at the stats.
Yep apart from not having a clue they are seduced by stats, having said that it didn't help poor Dane :lol
And they are seduced by the 720 degree man Judd
Judd winning shows they haven't a clue
Luckiest bloke in the comp - breaks a blokes nose, not only doesn't get suspended let alone reported and now wins a Brownlow on what was an average Judd year... please give me a break :chuck :chuck
Agree with Jack actually I reckon Pendelbury is/was the Pies best this season. Friday night's first half moved that young man into elite status IMHO
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Judd winning shows they haven't a clue
Luckiest bloke in the comp - breaks a blokes nose, not only doesn't get suspended let alone reported and now wins a Brownlow on what was an average Judd year... please give me a break :chuck :chuck
Yes, but WP you've forgotten that the completely impartial match review panel ruled that despite Pavlich requiring four staples to stem the blood flow, Judd's hit on him wasn't considered forceful enough impact to warrant a report. ???
Unlike say that "dirty mongrel" Trent Cotchin who got a "justifiable" four weeks for bracing himself when he arrived a split-second too late.
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I think you're drawing a low bow here smoke, Judd is fairer than most in the competition, he's had 2-3 misdemeanors of suspendable offences in his whole career.
To answer the question I think its easier to respect a guy like Judd who carries himself the way he does quietly getting the job done on the footy field over Brent Harvey who plays for free kicks and celebrates a goal like Ronaldo. With all due respect to Brent Harvey but its an example.
I can't see it that way at all Pope. The umpires are meant to be awarding votes to the 3 best players on the ground in any given game of football. Accounting for whether a player celebrates a goal like Ronaldo or shows no emotion at all is not in their charter and should not come into it. If it does then its a terrible indictment on the umpires and their ethics, just like they should still consider a player for votes even when he is ineligible. I would counter that it should be infinitely harder to respect a bloke who has been rubbed out for an eye gouge and had no penalty to pay Brownlow-wise and told lies to the MRP when questioned about it, than a player who celebrates a goal a bit more than some others (not that Harvey stands out to me at all in that area but that's another matter). And let's not forget that Judd has been up for eye gouging twice - only to have Campbell Brown lie to the MRP for him and then later get fined $15k when he admitted the lie. You talk about quietly getting the job done and yet I have never heard Harvey complain once about being tagged or scragged, even though he cops a tag each week just like Judd - can't say the same about Judd who was quite happy to talk to the press when he felt he was being unfairly treated.
Yes, this uplifting moral leader of our code has been caught eye gouging twice and lied about it, yet you think he is more deserving of the respect of the umpires than a player who has been reported once in his 300 game career and had that report thrown out by the MRP with no case to answer as it was "not a tripping action"? Thats the whole issue I have with Judd in general - he gets held up by all and sundry as a doyen of humility, honesty and fair play yet he did nothing to help his team mates at West Coast when they were doing the wrong thing with drugs, did nothing at Carlton (as captain) when 3 of his players ran amok at a pre-season function, lied to the public and the MRP, and allowed another player to take the fall for lying on his behalf. Thats the whole issue I have with Judd - he is not the 'saint' that he is portrayed to be and I don't think he deserves the preferential treatment he receives from the AFL, media and public. He is all about Chris Judd.
And as for being the best player in the competition this year? Didn't make top 5 in the MVP, was running a very distant 5th in the Coaches Award (with 3 rounds to go), finished outside the top 3 in the Herald Sun Player of the Year Award and scraped into the All Australian side on the bench. Nope, he was not this years best player and did not deserve his Brownlow on a number of levels. The value of the Medal was cheapened last night.
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Priceless! :lol :rollin
Bahahahhaa amazing great stuff MT.
Hopefully Ed has the same expression at the 28th mark of the last quarter this Saturday ;)
I'm warming to a St Kilda win.
Best of a bad situation? :-\
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Awesome seeing eddie gutted and Swan trying not to cry.
LOL - Now for the GF failure !
Sums it up perfectly. Can't believe the look on the toads face! 'Priceless' - I'm not much for the golden child and goes to show how much the umps love him, but it was all worth it. Awesome stuff :clapping
nb: Sorry MT I pinched your "Priceless" should of read before I posted. Will keep it in anyway - Thread of the year so far, hopefully a better one to come. :cheers
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Priceless! :lol :rollin
Happy to see Judd win just for that pic.
Now for the Saints upset...
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Geoff Raines never got a vote in the Brownlow in 1980, the best player at the time arguably in the VFL.
Swan can probably understand how frustrated Ablett was until he eventually won his!
Eddie can sit on this :thumbsup
:rollin
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Still Eddie's face was priceless too. :lol :rollin :lol
lol
What do you think was going through his fat head?
I think it may have been 'What the eff am I going to do with 100,000 Dane Swan Brownlow 2010 DVDs and 2000 Limited Edition Dane Swan 2010 Brownlow Medallist signed memorabilia pieces' :lol
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Judd another 3 votes and Swan, Ablett nil. leads by 5 with just 3 rounds to go
Judd going to hard to toss now.
Should have been suspended after he made Pavlich bleed. I smell a conspiracy. :chuck
The AFL Golden Child prevails. :chuck
Was not BOG against us in round 20.
It's the umpires award TB.
Barlow Round 1 33 possessions and 2 goals in debut = 0 votes.
Its opinion based. Umpires opinion award. Happier to see someone like Judd win a Brownlow then a Cooney or Goodes.
He's the best player in the comp.
you are wrong Pope. He is the best player at Carlton, not the comp. No where near. Outside the top 5 for me.
The fact that money hungry idiot he won it was a disgrace. The only comfort i get is the look on Eddie's face. That aside those losers who flap their arms around are dumb as dog poo and should not be awarding Brownlow Votes when you have Barlow not getting awardded none for his effort.
That priveledge should go to respected people like Barrassi, Matthews etc etc who have no bias whatsoever.
We have changed the game in so many areas, some better some not but this needs to be overhauled in a massive way.
How This greedy prick and Goodes,although i like him) won 2 Brownlows is an absolute joke.
this award means nothing if results like last night keep happening
Pathetic
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I'm warming to a St Kilda win.
Best of a bad situation? :-\
Feel sick just thinking about it Oiafi
I hope it's a draw :pray
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Judd another 3 votes and Swan, Ablett nil. leads by 5 with just 3 rounds to go
Judd going to hard to toss now.
Should have been suspended after he made Pavlich bleed. I smell a conspiracy. :chuck
The AFL Golden Child prevails. :chuck
Was not BOG against us in round 20.
It's the umpires award TB.
Barlow Round 1 33 possessions and 2 goals in debut = 0 votes.
Its opinion based. Umpires opinion award. Happier to see someone like Judd win a Brownlow then a Cooney or Goodes.
He's the best player in the comp.
you are wrong Pope. He is the best player at Carlton, not the comp. No where near. Outside the top 5 for me.
The fact that money hungry idiot he won it was a disgrace. The only comfort i get is the look on Eddie's face. That aside those losers who flap their arms around are dumb as dog poo and should not be awarding Brownlow Votes when you have Barlow not getting awardded none for his effort.
That priveledge should go to respected people like Barrassi, Matthews etc etc who have no bias whatsoever.
We have changed the game in so many areas, some better some not but this needs to be overhauled in a massive way.
How This greedy prick and Goodes,although i like him) won 2 Brownlows is an absolute joke.
this award means nothing if results like last night keep happening
Pathetic
Agree with this, best player in competition is purely opinion based. Judd is better player than Ablett and Swann?
Judd doesn't get rotated like a charcoal chicken like Swan and Ablett gets more handball receives than a Brazzer.com model.
Judd takes a tag every week, has a rubbish young midfield that doesn't protect him. He's the best midfielder in the comp. It's a midfielders medal. It makes sense to me.
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I don't know whats funnier, that they took it so seriously or that they are shocked they got shafted. At least Richmond know and accept they are hated and get shafted lol. We relished it. LOL how bright red was Swan my god. I felt sorry for the primadonna. Judd looked like a bewilderbeast and Edelsteins missus was doing a Pura milk ad and I love her, she needs more air time, who cares about the brownlow anyway its rigged.
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Do any of the stat machines here know how Dustin compared to other first year players on votes??
It would be interesting to see how it compared to the rising star final standings.
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Do any of the stat machines here know how Dustin compared to other first year players on votes??
It would be interesting to see how it compared to the rising star final standings.
2nd Tiga. Hannebery got 9 votes (3 x 3).
Edit: Woops, 3rd actually. Barlow got 12 (2 x 3, 3 x 2).
Edit #2: Double woops, 2nd. Hannebery was a 2nd year player.
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Thanks Smokey. IMO Barlow had a great first year. Had he not been injured, He probably would have even polled top 10 in the Brownlow overall.
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And while discussing Barlow, here is a great example why I don't trust umpires to have a clue when it comes to choosing the best players. Round 1 Fremantle vs Adelaide the votes went Sandilands 3, Mundy 2, Pavlich 1. Here's the stats from that game:
AS - 21 disposals (5k 16h), 4 marks, 33 hitouts, 2 tackles, 0 goals.
DM - 28 disposals (10k 18h), 3 marks, 1 hitout, 0 tackles, 1 goal.
MP - 22 disposals (12k 10h), 1 mark, 0 hitouts, 3 tackles, 3 goals.
MB - 33 disposals (13k 20h), 6 marks, 1 hitout, 4 tackles, 2 goals.
They are either not fair dinkum or just bloody clueless....................or most likely a combination of both.
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Saw this on a Carlton forum ;D
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Understand where you are coming from Smokey but how a player influences the game must be considered which is not always evident in stats.
Not that I am standing up for the maggots I am still filthy on the treatment we received this year.
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Understand where you are coming from Smokey but how a player influences the game must be considered which is not always evident in stats.
Not that I am standing up for the maggots I am still filthy on the treatment we received this year.
Fully agree re: the stats Chuck. I'm not stats-centric but I think they can highlight things missed in general perceptions and when used with those perceptions you are likely to get a much more accurate picture of reality. However, in the case of the game I used in my example above, there is only one possible way Pavlich's 22 disposal, 1 mark, 3 goal game could have been more influential than Barlow's 33 disposal, 6 mark, 2 goal game and that is because of his name. We know from watching his season unfold that Barlow did not rack up cheap stats, was not a seagull or downhill skier, he was the real deal so to miss out on a vote while Pavlich got one is just plain wrong. Umpires knew Pavlich well, didn't have a clue who the first-gamer Barlow was. And that's why I don't trust their judgment - it's not based fairly.
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I dont understand when we played teh saints and jack kicked 6 he didnt even get a vote? well done umpires you really do give every one the poos :clapping
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A magpie supporter pointed out in the paper that Podsiadly polled more votes than Jack R. despite the fact Jack kicked 80 goals and was a regular in mark of the week etc. Why do people rate this award at all ? Its by the MAGGOTS!!! THey are effing useless at the best of times so who gives a eff what they think??? The coaches award carries much more weight imo, even the MVPA. They should blackball this crap, its just a t-its teeth and a-rse party for the birds anyway.
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Just curious, why is t-it getting filtered, it is a type of bird as well. And just say I wanted to t-itter to myself as in laugh?
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Just curious, why is t-it getting filtered, it is a type of bird as well. And just say I wanted to t-itter to myself as in laugh?
tit
titter
seems to work now.
:thumbsup
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Just curious, why is t-it getting filtered, it is a type of bird as well. And just say I wanted to t-itter to myself as in laugh?
I think the stupidest one getting blocked is ar_se
It means when you type works like rehear_sed it gets changed to rehearsed
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lol
What does A-rsenal get modified to ?
How about their manager A-rsene Wenger ?
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Just curious, why is t-it getting filtered, it is a type of bird as well. And just say I wanted to t-itter to myself as in laugh?
I think the stupidest one getting blocked is ar_se
It means when you type works like rehear_sed it gets changed to rehebehindd
lol that too...
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Judd doesn't get rotated like a charcoal chicken like Swan and Ablett gets more handball receives than a Brazzer.com model.
Kind use of the word "model" LMAO
I think they get rotated like charcoal chickens too :-*