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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 23, 2010, 10:06:14 AM
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Only two days away so what's everyone's thoughts....
Winner and margin?
Norm Smith medal?
What will you be doing on Grand Final day?
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Winner and margin? Think Collingwood, hope St Kilda. 20pts
Norm Smith medal? Dane Swan
What will you be doing on Grand Final day? Watching it.
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Winner and margin? Saints by a point kicked after the siren (from a dodgy free kick and after Collingwood led by 10 goals at 3/4 time)
Norm Smith medal? Dane Swan
What will you be doing on Grand Final day? Watching it with a couple of mates, then their wives are joining us for tea (but you can't have everything eh)
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Winner and margin? Pies by 27 :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Norm Smith medal? Harry O :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
What will you be doing on Grand Final day? Getting Blind at a BBQ
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Travis Cloke to kick 6 goals - just like his dad in 1980.
St Kilda to win by 1 Point.
Milne to win the Norm Smith.
Watching it on TV.
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Winner and margin? Skunks by about 4 goals :chuck
Norm Smith medal? Del-Santo
What will you be doing on Grand Final day? Visiting every place of worship I can find and praying to as many deities as possible that my first prediction is totally wrong :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray
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Winner - Pies by 48 points.
Norm Smith - Pendlebury.
I'll be - Mowing the grass.
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Winner and margin?
Collingwood in an canter. Lets say 44 but probably more. I never thought I would say this but I want them to win as I will sell a bucket load of premiership stuff. After that they wait another 30 years as far as I am concerned
Norm Smith medal?
Pendlebury
What will you be doing on Grand Final day?
At Home on TV, proably falling asleep in chair (so board)
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Winner and margin?
StKilda by under a goal (Prays to God, Buddah, Mohammed, Allah & Xenu that this happens)
Norm Smith medal?
Dane Swan
What will you be doing on Grand Final day?
Most likely that I will be comatose in bed with the hangover from hell
If Collingwood win I hope I'll sleep through it (and the next week)
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Winner and margin?
StKilda easily
Norm Smith medal?
Nick Riewoldt
What will you be doing on Grand Final day?
Sitting in corporate suite 3-01 getting blinder than blind. 6 crownies by the start of INXS, 6 bourbons by the bounce of the ball, and then Ill start drinking from there.
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Winner And Margin?
Collingwood by 45 Points
Norm Smith Medal?
Scott Pendlebury
What Will You Be Doing On Grand Final Day?
Watching it :)
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Winner and margin? stkilda 14 pts -Even though pies are travelling better, I've been on the saints since preseason and will stick with them
Norm Smith medal? schneider
What will you be doing on Grand Final day? golf then watch
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WINNER Saints
NORM SMITH Goddard
RUPTURED TESTICLE Luke Ball (Traitors Award)
CRACKED STERNUM Alan Didak (Milne Award)
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Winner and margin? Skunks by 52
Norm Smith medal? Sharrod Wellingham
What will you be doing on Grand Final day? Sitting on my couch watching two scummy teams play.
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Saints by 5
leigh Montana norm smith
sitting in M12
kozy wont play, has broken ribs, McEnvoy in
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Winner and margin? Pies by 27 points in memory of my Dad :)
Norm Smith medal? Luke Ball ;D
What will you be doing on Grand Final day? Watching it until I fall asleep :rollin
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Here's the selected teams btw....
Collingwood
B: Nick Maxwell, Simon Prestigiacomo, Alan Toovey
HB: Harry O'Brien, Ben Reid, Heath Shaw
C: Sharrod Wellingham, Dane Swan, Ben Johnson
HF: Alan Didak, Travis Cloke, Luke Ball
F: Dayne Beams, Chris Dawes, Steele Sidebottom
Foll: Darren Jolly, Scott Pendlebury, Dale Thomas
I/C: Jarryd Blair, Leigh Brown, Brent Macaffer, Leon Davis
Emg: Tarkyn Lockyer, Tyson Goldsack, Nathan Brown
In: Davis, Prestigiacomo
Out: Tyson Goldsack, Nathan Brown
St Kilda
B: Jason Gram, Zac Dawson, Sam Gilbert
HB: Jason Blake, Sam Fisher, Robert Eddy
C: Brendon Goddard, Nick Dal Santo, Farren Ray
HF: Brett Peake, Justin Koschitzke, Leigh Montagna
F: Adam Schneider, Nick Riewoldt, Stephen Milne
Foll: Michael Gardiner, Lenny Hayes, Clinton Jones
I/C: Sean Dempster, Andrew McQualter, James Gwilt, Steven Baker
Emg: Jarryn Geary, Ben McEvoy, Rhys Stanley
In: Baker
Out: Ben McEvoy
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Kozy wont play
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Kozy wont play
Has he played at all this year :rollin :rollin
Goes missing more than a 7 year old at the Royal Melb Show
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Collingwood by 37
Didak
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Kozy is soft.
Our very own Jake king played the last 4 games with similar injury
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Kozy wont play
how sure are you of that Jack??
They will lose by 50 if he is out. not because i rate him but Nick R will get triple teamed now.
Saints will get smashed
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that the mad pise supporter dosent get to put his gay gold jacket on :thumbsup
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Kozy wont play
how sure are you of that Jack??
They will lose by 50 if he is out. not because i rate him but Nick R will get triple teamed now.
Saints will get smashed
facts he has serious rib injury, same as Jake King had which he needed an op for.
He is more likely not to play is the mail
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I wonder if the Saints camp is leaking some porkies to raise some doubts on match ups
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Collingwood by 36
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Saints by 1 pt
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I wonder if the Saints camp is leaking some porkies to raise some doubts on match ups
he has a rib injury, not a porky.
Scans dont lie ;)
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I wonder if the Saints camp is leaking some porkies to raise some doubts on match ups
he has a rib injury, not a porky.
Scans dont lie ;)
The Australian are reporting this morning that Kosi is in doubt to play
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kosi wont play most likely cos he chokes lol
i think the saints by 23 pts
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Saints by 5
leigh Montana norm smith
sitting in M12
kozy wont play, has broken ribs, McEnvoy in
This is massive news if true Jack. At least with him out there's no chance of him injuring one of his own team mates which is very highly likely.
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I wonder if the Saints camp is leaking some porkies to raise some doubts on match ups
he has a rib injury, not a porky.
Scans dont lie ;)
The Australian are reporting this morning that Kosi is in doubt to play
the scans werent good, worse than Jake Kings were the comment, and Jake had to have an operation to repair the damage, King is tough, Kozy soft, work it out
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I wonder if the Saints camp is leaking some porkies to raise some doubts on match ups
he has a rib injury, not a porky.
Scans dont lie ;)
The Australian are reporting this morning that Kosi is in doubt to play
the scans werent good, worse than Jake Kings were the comment, and Jake had to have an operation to repair the damage, King is tough, Kozy soft, work it out
Sounds to me like hospital staff are leaking information - these are the only people that could have compared the two seperate cases.
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Davis in may just turn the tables Saints way - Yeah Yeah I'm searching.
Skunks - 27
Norm - Pendles
MCC Probably mostly from Sir Bernard Callinan Bar
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This is hard to say but they might aswell give the premiership cup to Collingwood now.
The magpies will win by 10 goals and thats allowing for a few St kilda goals in junk time.
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ST KILDA forward Justin Koschitzke has dismissed reports that he has injured ribs and declared himself a certain starter for Saturday's grand final.
Koschitzke collided heavily with Bulldog Easton Wood in last Saturday's preliminary final and newspaper reports on Friday suggested he could have broken ribs.
The 28-year-old said he was simply winded in the incident and was as surprised as anyone by the speculation ahead of Friday's grand final parade.
"I had a few texts this morning, and I'm not sure where it came from," he said. "[I'm] spot on, ready to roll.
"I just got a bit winded, no drama. I just went off, got my breath and [I’m] all good."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103124/default.aspx
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ST KILDA forward Justin Koschitzke has dismissed reports that he has injured ribs and declared himself a certain starter for Saturday's grand final.
Koschitzke collided heavily with Bulldog Easton Wood in last Saturday's preliminary final and newspaper reports on Friday suggested he could have broken ribs.
The 28-year-old said he was simply winded in the incident and was as surprised as anyone by the speculation ahead of Friday's grand final parade.
"I had a few texts this morning, and I'm not sure where it came from," he said. "[I'm] spot on, ready to roll.
"I just got a bit winded, no drama. I just went off, got my breath and [I’m] all good."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103124/default.aspx
Not surprised by this, I know his missus and she knew nothing about it
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ST KILDA forward Justin Koschitzke has dismissed reports that he has injured ribs and declared himself a certain starter for Saturday's grand final.
Koschitzke collided heavily with Bulldog Easton Wood in last Saturday's preliminary final and newspaper reports on Friday suggested he could have broken ribs.
The 28-year-old said he was simply winded in the incident and was as surprised as anyone by the speculation ahead of Friday's grand final parade.
"I had a few texts this morning, and I'm not sure where it came from," he said. "[I'm] spot on, ready to roll.
"I just got a bit winded, no drama. I just went off, got my breath and [I’m] all good."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103124/default.aspx
Not surprised by this, I know his missus and she knew nothing about it
But how can this be because Jack said he wont play. I am confused, sombody has the FACTS wrong.
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PIES by 47
Pendlebury -BOG
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ST KILDA forward Justin Koschitzke has dismissed reports that he has injured ribs and declared himself a certain starter for Saturday's grand final.
Koschitzke collided heavily with Bulldog Easton Wood in last Saturday's preliminary final and newspaper reports on Friday suggested he could have broken ribs.
The 28-year-old said he was simply winded in the incident and was as surprised as anyone by the speculation ahead of Friday's grand final parade.
"I had a few texts this morning, and I'm not sure where it came from," he said. "[I'm] spot on, ready to roll.
"I just got a bit winded, no drama. I just went off, got my breath and [I’m] all good."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103124/default.aspx
Not surprised by this, I know his missus and she knew nothing about it
Ask his mrs did he have scans done on his ribs ???? ::)
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"'if"' he does happen to play, the pies will be keen to take him out.
Dont forget Jake King played with the injury, but he is tough ;)
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Kosi isn't that soft man. I'm sure he's got enough balls to tough it out so he can play in a granny
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Kosi isn't that soft man. I'm sure he's got enough balls to tough it out so he can play in a granny
mate, they would have all types of painkillers to get him up, if he is too sore, he doesnt play
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ST KILDA forward Justin Koschitzke has dismissed reports that he has injured ribs and declared himself a certain starter for Saturday's grand final.
Koschitzke collided heavily with Bulldog Easton Wood in last Saturday's preliminary final and newspaper reports on Friday suggested he could have broken ribs.
The 28-year-old said he was simply winded in the incident and was as surprised as anyone by the speculation ahead of Friday's grand final parade.
"I had a few texts this morning, and I'm not sure where it came from," he said. "[I'm] spot on, ready to roll.
"I just got a bit winded, no drama. I just went off, got my breath and [I’m] all good."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103124/default.aspx
Not surprised by this, I know his missus and she knew nothing about it
Ask his mrs did he have scans done on his ribs ???? ::)
I already did ask, she was very chipper, no concerns at all
Another FACT that bites the dust
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The pressure cooker
The Pies can topple the Saints by beating them at their own game, writes Richmond assistant coach Danny Daly
Full preview here:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103162/default.aspx
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ST KILDA forward Justin Koschitzke has dismissed reports that he has injured ribs and declared himself a certain starter for Saturday's grand final.
Koschitzke collided heavily with Bulldog Easton Wood in last Saturday's preliminary final and newspaper reports on Friday suggested he could have broken ribs.
The 28-year-old said he was simply winded in the incident and was as surprised as anyone by the speculation ahead of Friday's grand final parade.
"I had a few texts this morning, and I'm not sure where it came from," he said. "[I'm] spot on, ready to roll.
"I just got a bit winded, no drama. I just went off, got my breath and [I’m] all good."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103124/default.aspx
Not surprised by this, I know his missus and she knew nothing about it
Ask his mrs did he have scans done on his ribs ???? ::)
I already did ask, she was very chipper, no concerns at all
Another FACT that bites the dust
who really cares honestly.
I know the person where he went for a second opinion in regards to the injury, end of discussion imbecile, FACT
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Gee Jack, I hope this person you referring to is not a doctor!
If so...
1 They should not be telling anyone such information and..
2 if they do you should not be sprouting it on here.
Big trouble for a doctor to be flaunting their patients privacy- big trouble.
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Gee Jack, I hope this person you referring to is not a doctor!
If so...
1 They should not be telling anyone such information and..
2 if they do you should not be sprouting it on here.
Big trouble for a doctor to be flaunting their patients privacy- big trouble.
mate, it common knowledge that he has had 2 scans.
Hope he plays although its doubtfull
was also common knowledge that Jake King played the last 4 games with the same injury
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Im not talking about whether or not it is common knowledge Jack. I talking about if your source is a doctor.
A doctor can get into lots of trouble for breaching his/her patients confidentiality.
If a doctor is telling you this stuff he breaking the law and you are increasing his chances of being caught by telling people. The AMA will not care that it is "common knowledge" if they decide to drag a doctor over the coals for such a breach.
If your source is not a doctor, then there is no issue.
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Yeah he can get taken to the cleaners, in fact if we mention this post to the police and they decide to investigate, they can get your name and demand you tell them who it is and beat u with truncheons and mace you in the face whilst handcuffed to the side of a squad car with your pants down, or so Ive read.
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Yeah he can get taken to the cleaners, in fact if we mention this post to the police and they decide to investigate, they can get your name and demand you tell them who it is and beat u with truncheons and mace you in the face whilst handcuffed to the side of a squad car with your pants down, or so Ive read.
How old are you?
:help
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Im not talking about whether or not it is common knowledge Jack. I talking about if your source is a doctor.
A doctor can get into lots of trouble for breaching his/her patients confidentiality.
If a doctor is telling you this stuff he breaking the law and you are increasing his chances of being caught by telling people. The AMA will not care that it is "common knowledge" if they decide to drag a doctor over the coals for such a breach.
If your source is not a doctor, then there is no issue.
there isnt an issue ::)
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Yeah he can get taken to the cleaners, in fact if we mention this post to the police and they decide to investigate, they can get your name and demand you tell them who it is and beat u with truncheons and mace you in the face whilst handcuffed to the side of a squad car with your pants down, or so Ive read.
How old are you?
:help
I think he's 40 odd, nearly half your age. You saggy tit, get over yourself :thumbsup
:cheers
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Yeah he can get taken to the cleaners, in fact if we mention this post to the police and they decide to investigate, they can get your name and demand you tell them who it is and beat u with truncheons and mace you in the face whilst handcuffed to the side of a squad car with your pants down, or so Ive read.
How old are you?
:help
I think he's 40 odd, nearly half your age. You saggy tit, get over yourself :thumbsup
:cheers
Another really classy post.
:wallywink
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Im not talking about whether or not it is common knowledge Jack. I talking about if your source is a doctor.
A doctor can get into lots of trouble for breaching his/her patients confidentiality.
If a doctor is telling you this stuff he breaking the law and you are increasing his chances of being caught by telling people. The AMA will not care that it is "common knowledge" if they decide to drag a doctor over the coals for such a breach.
If your source is not a doctor, then there is no issue.
there isnt an issue ::)
So why didnt you just say that to start with ? ::)
Yeah he can get taken to the cleaners, in fact if we mention this post to the police and they decide to investigate, they can get your name and demand you tell them who it is and beat u with truncheons and mace you in the face whilst handcuffed to the side of a squad car with your pants down, or so Ive read.
Really?
.. and to think I used to pay women to dress up in uniform and do that to me, when it can be done by the constabulary for free. Live and learn I suppose.
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Presti out, Brown in.
Saints no change.
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Gee Jack, I hope this person you referring to is not a doctor!
If so...
1 They should not be telling anyone such information and..
2 if they do you should not be sprouting it on here.
Big trouble for a doctor to be flaunting their patients privacy- big trouble.
was also common knowledge that Jake King played the last 4 games with the same injury
weren't you hinting at the fact a few weeks back that King was involved in some questionable behaviour at Bali and mentioned something about his ribs as proof? ::)
also I'm with al, you seem to be alluding to this second person as a doc, i really hope he isn't.
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On ya Richo and Cuz :clapping
Jack there too as the Coleman medallist :thumbsup sitting next to Judd.
Good to see Neon Leon in the Pies side. Hopefully another day of duckeggs stats in a GF lol. The Pies should win by 6+ goals but praying for the colliwobbles :pray. Pendlebury the Norm Smith.
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What a joke btw that Collingwood changed their jumper from a predominantly traditional white one to a black one and that forces St Kilda to wear a white alternative strip.
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Saints very lucky to still be within 4 goals at half-time. Lucky Cloke chokes in front of goal :wallywink. St Kilda were doing well getting back into the game by controlling the tempo until Ray and Eddy had brain implosions in defence gifting the Pies cheap goals and all the momentum. The Saints bottom five - Eddy, Ray, Blake, Dempster and Peake - are pretty flimsy under pressure.
I can't stand Milne the little runt and he's done nothing so far but Lyon needs to take a chance and move him up high as a quick hit-up target on the lead and then keep one of talls deep in the goalsquare as a long target in space as the Pies push up with their forward press.
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Bottom few St Kilda players have been a problem. If they werent so of the pace the Saints would of been in with a red hot chance today.
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The Pies have the yips in front of the sticks but it depends how much energy the Saints used that quarter to get it back to 8 points. St Kilda still need the first goal of the last otherwise you'd reckon the Pies will get home in a low scoring affair. If the Pies kick the first couple then the score could blow open.
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Damn! Sheesh when the Saints hit the front I thought they had them.
Great game obviously :clapping. Hayes (Norm Smith) and Goddard were brilliant in that second half. Dragged the Saints back. What a joke Hayes missed out on the AA team and O'Brien got in.
Maxwell already sooking and whinging about coming back next week :nopity
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My highlights were -
1. Harry O'Brien getting slaughtered by the umps twice and then Goddard climbing all over him to put the Saints in front.
2. Nick Maxwell's 'heroic' chase to rush Riewoldt goalbound kick actually costing the pies in the end as Saints scored shortly after the kick in and it cost them 7 points not 6....
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Have to agree with Maxwell its abit of a joke having another game next week just play an extra 10 minutes or something.
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Hahahahahaha Col E Wobbles in September.
Massive choke by Collingwood Cloke Thomas Blair and so.
Smacks of 1977. Collingwood gave up a big lead then too and lost the replay. De ja vu. :pray
I reckon the body language of St Kilda post match was much more positive.
Poor Nick Maxwell you come back next week. If you don't like it then don't play or better still lose. :nopity
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Massive choke. :lol :rollin :lol :stupid :ROTFL
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agree with Tucky ... Pies choked. Lyon is a smart coach he saw what worked and what didnt. The saints coughed up 4 goals just from there own mistakes and blokes like Eddy shouldnt be in the side. Saints by 24 points next week!
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Not sure what Maxwell was on about... in the end, it was a fitting result that neither of the two most pathetic sides in the history of grand finals went home with the cup.
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Winners from today. The AFL. They are having money fights right now as we speak.
The bookies. They are counting their money.
In hindsight could their have been a more apt result.
Collingwood v St Kilda the two worst Grand Final teams in the last 50 years when they get there.
If only I would have made a sh1tload of $$$$$$$$.
Collingwood the ledger goes up by 1. 52 years without a Grand Final win in September. :lol :rollin :lol :wallywink :help :stupid :woohoo :ROTFL :congrats
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Great result - we get to see the Pies choke twice :thumbsup
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LOL Jake and Tucky. Very apt result when you put it like that :lol
I'm for one pro to keeping the replay. What's wrong with keeping a rare tradition when we all knew the rules beforehand. Nah Nick let's have a sook after the result because the result didn't go your way :nopity. Not to mention the AFL will make $$$ from another $100k seats sold. Hopefully like 1977 more of the ordinary members can go to the replay. However I won't hold my breath as it'll be so typical of Demetriou and Anderson to overreact to something that has happened just 3 times in 150 years and change the rules to extra-time ::).
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LOL Jake and Tucky. Very apt result when you put it like that :lol
I'm for one pro to keeping the replay. What's wrong with keeping a rare tradition when we all new the rules beforehand. Nah Nick let's have a sook after the result because the result didn't go your way :nopity. Not to mention the AFL will make $$$ from another $100k seats sold. Hopefully like 1977 more of the ordinary members can go to the replay. However I won't hold my breath as it'll be so typical of Demetriou and Anderson to overreact to something that has happened just 3 times in 150 years and change the rules to extra-time ::).
Agree MT its not the AFL's fault its a replay the rules have been their for 150 years. However it's a bad one, horrible one. My cousin a Saint tragic, missed out on a GF ticket, paid for a Sydney Swans corporate ticket package worth 1.4k and flown himself from London costing him $2k return has come and seen a draw and walk away without seeing a result... Makes no sense.
That aside in no professional sport do we have our Premiership day replayed if the teams are dead locked. Its common sense play extra time of 2 x 5 or 10 minute halves. If the scores are tied have another 2 minute halves and so on.
The draw as a whole is pointless, historical or not it shouldn't hold a place in our game anymore. Our game is not like soccer that rewards weaker teams for being defensively strong against stronger teams. If an AFL game is drawn both teams are good enough to win and should be given the opportunity to do so.
Its common sense, go into the rooms come out 10 mins later and play 2 x 5 or 10 min halves....
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Pies lost it in the first 10-12 minutes of the final qtr - should have nailed them but played really dumb footy
What was Thomas thinking going to Dawes one on one whe he a spare man 20 metres away- DUMB DUMB FOOTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Great result - we get to see the Pies choke twice :thumbsup
:rollin :pray
agree with Tucky ... Pies choked. Lyon is a smart coach he saw what worked and what didnt. The saints coughed up 4 goals just from there own mistakes and blokes like Eddy shouldnt be in the side. Saints by 24 points next week!
Yep Eddy out but for who will be interesting as there's no one obvious. Out of Armitage, Geary or they could add an extra tall in Stanley.
McEvoy will need to come in for Gardiner if he's injured.
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Hasn't and may not be mentioned but I thought that was the best umpired game I have ever seen.
So good I can't even tell you who they were other then Ray Chamberlin who was hardly sighted.
I can't believe I'm saying this but well done umps. :clapping
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Yeah, I thought it was well umpired too for the large part. Thought Goddard was BOG by a long way
We've had some cracking grand finals over the last 10 years haven't we?
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Hasn't and may not be mentioned but I thought that was the best umpired game I have ever seen.
So good I can't even tell you who they were other then Ray Chamberlin who was hardly sighted.
I can't believe I'm saying this but well done umps. :clapping
Agree, said that during the game :thumbsup
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AFL to make $15 to $18 million bucks extra ... doesnt this money get shared by the 16 clubs?
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Unbelievably well umpired, we must not have got those umpires this year.
Still reckon they should take the numbers off their backs though
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Great result - we get to see the Pies choke twice :thumbsup
:rollin :pray
agree with Tucky ... Pies choked. Lyon is a smart coach he saw what worked and what didnt. The saints coughed up 4 goals just from there own mistakes and blokes like Eddy shouldnt be in the side. Saints by 24 points next week!
Yep Eddy out but for who will be interesting as there's no one obvious. Out of Armitage, Geary or they could add an extra tall in Stanley.
McEvoy will need to come in for Gardiner if he's injured.
I think McEvoy will definentely come in for someone. I thought Eddy was okay in the last quarter. McQualter is another one who may be in the gun unless Gardiner does not come up and the swap will be like for like.
Leon Davis despite his goal only had 6 touches or so so he will be under pressure from Goldsack to keep his spot. Interesting to see what the weather will be like. If its raining I like St Kilda's chances even more. :thumbsup
2010 may have something to offer the Collingwood hating fan. Two Grand Final failures in the one season.
Their record is now 3 wins in their last 21 Grand Finals.
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What happens with trade week? Does it get pushed back for another week and start a week later now?
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Unbelievably well umpired, we must not have got those umpires this year.
Still reckon they should take the numbers off their backs though
dont be fooled Chuck. Unleash the Giesch would've instructed them to umpire this way, JUST FOR THIS GAME.
same goes for reports etc etc. Every little punch or nibble will get off scot free.
This is how the game should be umpired so why dont the idiots do it all year round.
Mate the winner today is footy. Footy lives on for another 7 days.
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Have to agree with Maxwell its abit of a joke having another game next week just play an extra 10 minutes or something.
your kidding yourself right?
Footy lives for another week whats not to like about that.
Footy show, On the coach, GF replay all ovre again. Bring that poo on bloke.
Im rapt.
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LOL Jake and Tucky. Very apt result when you put it like that :lol
I'm for one pro to keeping the replay. What's wrong with keeping a rare tradition when we all new the rules beforehand. Nah Nick let's have a sook after the result because the result didn't go your way :nopity. Not to mention the AFL will make $$$ from another $100k seats sold. Hopefully like 1977 more of the ordinary members can go to the replay. However I won't hold my breath as it'll be so typical of Demetriou and Anderson to overreact to something that has happened just 3 times in 150 years and change the rules to extra-time ::).
Agree MT its not the AFL's fault its a replay the rules have been their for 150 years. However it's a bad one, horrible one. My cousin a Saint tragic, missed out on a GF ticket, paid for a Sydney Swans corporate ticket package worth 1.4k and flown himself from London costing him $2k return has come and seen a draw and walk away without seeing a result... Makes no sense.
That aside in no professional sport do we have our Premiership day replayed if the teams are dead locked. Its common sense play extra time of 2 x 5 or 10 minute halves. If the scores are tied have another 2 minute halves and so on.
The draw as a whole is pointless, historical or not it shouldn't hold a place in our game anymore. Our game is not like soccer that rewards weaker teams for being defensively strong against stronger teams. If an AFL game is drawn both teams are good enough to win and should be given the opportunity to do so.
Its common sense, go into the rooms come out 10 mins later and play 2 x 5 or 10 min halves....
well thems are the breaks my friend. Maybe your relative should've upgraded her membership instead of opting for the cheap tighar-se option.
This is tradition my friend and the replay should and will stand. A great result.
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Gee Jack, I hope this person you referring to is not a doctor!
If so...
1 They should not be telling anyone such information and..
2 if they do you should not be sprouting it on here.
Big trouble for a doctor to be flaunting their patients privacy- big trouble.
was also common knowledge that Jake King played the last 4 games with the same injury
weren't you hinting at the fact a few weeks back that King was involved in some questionable behaviour at Bali and mentioned something about his ribs as proof? ::)
also I'm with al, you seem to be alluding to this second person as a doc, i really hope he isn't.
Your an idiot, Jake king had broken ribs for the past 4 games, he went on trip to Bali, had trouble breathing and had operation as soon as he retunred.
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And the A Leagues mega derby next week just got another massive shafting lol .... ;D
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Just got home, great game of footy
Got to go in the saints rooms after the game,( or should i say southern stand rooms as there was a problem with the other rooms ??)and guess what, seen Kosy with a mattress rapped around his ribs :
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The Saints played a fantastic game. Certainly matched up very well against the Pies and surprised me.
Damn shame that they didn't win..this week.
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SO....the games a draw, the siren goes, the game stops, the players are spent and then what, hey boys lets line up for another 5 /10 minutes, all very well in theory, but these guys are not machines, they were stuffed! Draws in the granny dont happen often enuff to be an issue, big deal if we are the only code to stage a replay, thats because we are the only aussie rules code and as such abide by aussie rules. people are so quick to jump up and down about rule changes and how they dont need changing. This is another rule that is unique to us and our game. Leave it as it is and enjoy another week of footy
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Unreal banana peel - I had Goddard only bet - mate had 'legend' r shout lmfaolllobnw
, bnw = back next week :banghead
Great game
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thought it was the best game of been too.
EVERY contest was important
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SO....the games a draw, the siren goes, the game stops, the players are spent and then what, hey boys lets line up for another 5 /10 minutes, all very well in theory, but these guys are not machines, they were stuffed! Draws in the granny dont happen often enuff to be an issue, big deal if we are the only code to stage a replay, thats because we are the only aussie rules code and as such abide by aussie rules. people are so quick to jump up and down about rule changes and how they dont need changing. This is another rule that is unique to us and our game. Leave it as it is and enjoy another week of footy
absolutely spot on 2JD. Great call!!!!
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I had the saints to win, my theory was they would match up well on the pies for height and strength and that the pies game plan runs themselves ragged and that the sainters would overrun them. I thought it would happen too in those last few bloody minutes, when that ball bloody bounced the wrong way in front of that tip rat milne I nearly shouted loud enough to shatter the windows. Next week will favour the sainters if their blokes all pull up ok, the skunks are rattled after thinking they had it in their cabinet all week.
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I had the saints to win, my theory was they would match up well on the pies for height and strength and that the pies game plan runs themselves ragged and that the sainters would overrun them. I thought it would happen too in those last few bloody minutes, when that ball bloody bounced the wrong way in front of that tip rat milne I nearly shouted loud enough to shatter the windows. Next week will favour the sainters if their blokes all pull up ok, the skunks are rattled after thinking they had it in their cabinet all week.
same OWL, i was screaminng, "just someone, grab the ball and kick it...ah no not you milne!" I guess thats what you call karma lol
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LOL Jake and Tucky. Very apt result when you put it like that :lol
I'm for one pro to keeping the replay. What's wrong with keeping a rare tradition when we all new the rules beforehand. Nah Nick let's have a sook after the result because the result didn't go your way :nopity. Not to mention the AFL will make $$$ from another $100k seats sold. Hopefully like 1977 more of the ordinary members can go to the replay. However I won't hold my breath as it'll be so typical of Demetriou and Anderson to overreact to something that has happened just 3 times in 150 years and change the rules to extra-time ::).
Agree MT its not the AFL's fault its a replay the rules have been their for 150 years. However it's a bad one, horrible one. My cousin a Saint tragic, missed out on a GF ticket, paid for a Sydney Swans corporate ticket package worth 1.4k and flown himself from London costing him $2k return has come and seen a draw and walk away without seeing a result... Makes no sense.
That aside in no professional sport do we have our Premiership day replayed if the teams are dead locked. Its common sense play extra time of 2 x 5 or 10 minute halves. If the scores are tied have another 2 minute halves and so on.
The draw as a whole is pointless, historical or not it shouldn't hold a place in our game anymore. Our game is not like soccer that rewards weaker teams for being defensively strong against stronger teams. If an AFL game is drawn both teams are good enough to win and should be given the opportunity to do so.
Its common sense, go into the rooms come out 10 mins later and play 2 x 5 or 10 min halves....
well thems are the breaks my friend. Maybe your relative should've upgraded her membership instead of opting for the cheap tighar-se option.
This is tradition my friend and the replay should and will stand. A great result.
Well he's overseas daniel it's hard to justisfy full $500 memberships lol.
Understand its great that footy stretches for another week and we get to relive it all again as nuetral footy fans but if it were Richmond and we went to the game went through the highs and lows of the week and then the game saw our 22 fight it out, bleed and sweat to win only for the siren to go and it all mean absolutely nothing, we'd be livid.
It's a blight on the sport and should be changed. It was an amazing game with amazing efforts. Didaks goal from the boundary line, Hayes courage, Kossi playing with suspect ribs, Saints polaying without a ruckman, Thomas efforts around the ground, Clokes kicking, Goddards epic mark and goal. This all counts for nothing. Would go down as a remarkable game possibly the best grand final ever that could have ended on the day if we had extra time. But the game is now meaningless and is re set for next week.
Maxwell is an idiot for saying what he did about no1 has gone to war like that ever and its a joke its on next week. However his meaning is correct no other sport does it and it ridiculous. Extra time after the GF woulda have been history making stuff.
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I had the saints to win, my theory was they would match up well on the pies for height and strength and that the pies game plan runs themselves ragged and that the sainters would overrun them. I thought it would happen too in those last few bloody minutes, when that ball bloody bounced the wrong way in front of that tip rat milne I nearly shouted loud enough to shatter the windows. Next week will favour the sainters if their blokes all pull up ok, the skunks are rattled after thinking they had it in their cabinet all week.
same OWL, i was screaminng, "just someone, grab the ball and kick it...ah no not you milne!" I guess thats what you call karma lol
It was funny I think I heard a lot of male voices around the block yelling at the same time hahaha
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SO....the games a draw, the siren goes, the game stops, the players are spent and then what, hey boys lets line up for another 5 /10 minutes, all very well in theory, but these guys are not machines, they were stuffed! Draws in the granny dont happen often enuff to be an issue, big deal if we are the only code to stage a replay, thats because we are the only aussie rules code and as such abide by aussie rules. people are so quick to jump up and down about rule changes and how they dont need changing. This is another rule that is unique to us and our game. Leave it as it is and enjoy another week of footy
Disagree, 44 players would have said yes to extra time, absolutely sure of it. I didn't see any player pump the fist and mutter words "Great, lets start it all over again."
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SO....the games a draw, the siren goes, the game stops, the players are spent and then what, hey boys lets line up for another 5 /10 minutes, all very well in theory, but these guys are not machines, they were stuffed! Draws in the granny dont happen often enuff to be an issue, big deal if we are the only code to stage a replay, thats because we are the only aussie rules code and as such abide by aussie rules. people are so quick to jump up and down about rule changes and how they dont need changing. This is another rule that is unique to us and our game. Leave it as it is and enjoy another week of footy
Disagree, 44 players would have said yes to extra time, absolutely sure of it. I didn't see any player pump the fist and mutter words "Great, lets start it all over again."
probably cos they didnt have the energy
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SO....the games a draw, the siren goes, the game stops, the players are spent and then what, hey boys lets line up for another 5 /10 minutes, all very well in theory, but these guys are not machines, they were stuffed! Draws in the granny dont happen often enuff to be an issue, big deal if we are the only code to stage a replay, thats because we are the only aussie rules code and as such abide by aussie rules. people are so quick to jump up and down about rule changes and how they dont need changing. This is another rule that is unique to us and our game. Leave it as it is and enjoy another week of footy
Disagree, 44 players would have said yes to extra time, absolutely sure of it. I didn't see any player pump the fist and mutter words "Great, lets start it all over again."
probably cos they didnt have the energy
Lol well played.
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SO....the games a draw, the siren goes, the game stops, the players are spent and then what, hey boys lets line up for another 5 /10 minutes, all very well in theory, but these guys are not machines, they were stuffed! Draws in the granny dont happen often enuff to be an issue, big deal if we are the only code to stage a replay, thats because we are the only aussie rules code and as such abide by aussie rules. people are so quick to jump up and down about rule changes and how they dont need changing. This is another rule that is unique to us and our game. Leave it as it is and enjoy another week of footy
Disagree, 44 players would have said yes to extra time, absolutely sure of it. I didn't see any player pump the fist and mutter words "Great, lets start it all over again."
In the heat of battle yes but when things die down you load up again and go for it. As 2JD says it is unique to our code and should remain that way. Nick Maxwell is a tosser anyway so why should the AFL look to changing something merely because someone from Collingwood said it. They won't and after the drawn qualifying final 1990 which pushed the season back an extra week the AFL back then said the only replay will be in a Grand Final. Let it stay that way. We get footy for another week and we get to watch Collingwood fail to win 2 Grand Finals in the same season.
If that happened to Richmond today. Yep I'd feel empty tonight but I would have another GF to look forward to. The events of today just add to the mystique misery and misfortune of these two footy clubs and their histories and lack of ultimate success despite their so called season dominances. I think it was an apt result based on my last comment and I think that it will be a heartbreaker again next week or one team will win by plenty with the game being a non event. I'm hoping that's Collingwood after having their psyche shattered once again today.
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Hell yeah they were gee'd up that cup was already in their trophy cabinet, they just got the fright of their life and are thanking the football gods that they escaped with a draw, a few more minutes and that ball would of went through for a score one way or another and the Saints would of been holding it up imho, Skunks were spent, Saints were too but were pushing it home anyway.
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SO....the games a draw, the siren goes, the game stops, the players are spent and then what, hey boys lets line up for another 5 /10 minutes, all very well in theory, but these guys are not machines, they were stuffed! Draws in the granny dont happen often enuff to be an issue, big deal if we are the only code to stage a replay, thats because we are the only aussie rules code and as such abide by aussie rules. people are so quick to jump up and down about rule changes and how they dont need changing. This is another rule that is unique to us and our game. Leave it as it is and enjoy another week of footy
Disagree, 44 players would have said yes to extra time, absolutely sure of it. I didn't see any player pump the fist and mutter words "Great, lets start it all over again."
In the heat of battle yes but when things die down you load up again and go for it. As 2JD says it is unique to our code and should remain that way. Nick Maxwell is a tosser anyway so why should the AFL look to changing something merely because someone from Collingwood said it. They won't and after the drawn qualifying final 1990 which pushed the season back an extra week the AFL back then said the only replay will be in a Grand Final. Let it stay that way. We get footy for another week and we get to watch Collingwood fail to win 2 Grand Finals in the same season.
If that happened to Richmond today. Yep I'd feel empty tonight but I would have another GF to look forward to. The events of today just add to the mystique misery and misfortune of these two footy clubs and their histories and lack of ultimate success despite their so called season dominances. I think it was an apt result based on my last comment and I think that it will be a heartbreaker again next week or one team will win by plenty with the game being a non event. I'm hoping that's Collingwood after having their psyche shattered once again today.
well said. So much upside to another GF. Can the Pies fail to win another GF. Can we be so lucky. MaXWELL :chuck
This is fantastic. Wife away in London for 2 weeks and i get to hear about Footy for another week in piece and quiet. stuff i love my life.
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SO....the games a draw, the siren goes, the game stops, the players are spent and then what, hey boys lets line up for another 5 /10 minutes, all very well in theory, but these guys are not machines, they were stuffed! Draws in the granny dont happen often enuff to be an issue, big deal if we are the only code to stage a replay, thats because we are the only aussie rules code and as such abide by aussie rules. people are so quick to jump up and down about rule changes and how they dont need changing. This is another rule that is unique to us and our game. Leave it as it is and enjoy another week of footy
Disagree, 44 players would have said yes to extra time, absolutely sure of it. I didn't see any player pump the fist and mutter words "Great, lets start it all over again."
2JD your spot on. game rules are fine as they are. go back next week cause every player on that ground was 100% spent.
Grand Final should be decided on a fresh game . Popelord stick to talking poo you dont know how much player give in a full game cause you cant even hack training lmfao
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LOL Jake and Tucky. Very apt result when you put it like that :lol
I'm for one pro to keeping the replay. What's wrong with keeping a rare tradition when we all new the rules beforehand. Nah Nick let's have a sook after the result because the result didn't go your way :nopity. Not to mention the AFL will make $$$ from another $100k seats sold. Hopefully like 1977 more of the ordinary members can go to the replay. However I won't hold my breath as it'll be so typical of Demetriou and Anderson to overreact to something that has happened just 3 times in 150 years and change the rules to extra-time ::).
Agree MT its not the AFL's fault its a replay the rules have been their for 150 years. However it's a bad one, horrible one. My cousin a Saint tragic, missed out on a GF ticket, paid for a Sydney Swans corporate ticket package worth 1.4k and flown himself from London costing him $2k return has come and seen a draw and walk away without seeing a result... Makes no sense.
That aside in no professional sport do we have our Premiership day replayed if the teams are dead locked. Its common sense play extra time of 2 x 5 or 10 minute halves. If the scores are tied have another 2 minute halves and so on.
The draw as a whole is pointless, historical or not it shouldn't hold a place in our game anymore. Our game is not like soccer that rewards weaker teams for being defensively strong against stronger teams. If an AFL game is drawn both teams are good enough to win and should be given the opportunity to do so.
Its common sense, go into the rooms come out 10 mins later and play 2 x 5 or 10 min halves....
The replay is the fairest way to do it for the ones that matter -the teams. If you can't beat another side after two goes at them then you don't deserve the flag. Sorry about your cousin's bad luck Pope but there's plenty of mad Pie and Saint members who won't be able get a ticket to either GF.
Extra-time might sound good in theory but what happens if a side is down to two players on the bench. An extra 20 minutes would put them at a severe disadvantage. Speaking of Soccer there's even talk of having 50m kick-offs at goal :help. Sheesh how ridiculous would that be. At least now both sides can go away for a week and put 22 players on the park next Saturday and fight it out again.
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Luke Penny BOG :chuck :chuck
Daisy Thomas easy.
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Yep Eddy out but for who will be interesting as there's no one obvious. Out of Armitage, Geary or they could add an extra tall in Stanley.
McEvoy will need to come in for Gardiner if he's injured.
I think McEvoy will definentely come in for someone. I thought Eddy was okay in the last quarter. McQualter is another one who may be in the gun unless Gardiner does not come up and the swap will be like for like.
Leon Davis despite his goal only had 6 touches or so so he will be under pressure from Goldsack to keep his spot. Interesting to see what the weather will be like. If its raining I like St Kilda's chances even more. :thumbsup
2010 may have something to offer the Collingwood hating fan. Two Grand Final failures in the one season.
Their record is now 3 wins in their last 21 Grand Finals.
I hope the Pies keep Neon Leon in. The more maggies in the side that go missing in GFs the better lol. I also hope that Jolly gets sighted for his round-arm whack to Kosi's jaw on the boundary in the last quarter.
If the Saints had a reasonable bottom 6 they would've won today. Eddy, Ray, Blake, Dempster (although he was pretty decent in the second half), Peake and McQualter are the weak links. Do they still want Jordie? :lol.
ps. I think trade week will be left at it is. It might be problem if there's another draw :P. Remember also the Draft Combine (Camp) is on this week so the Saints and Pies will only be able to send up their recruiters to Canberra while their coaching staffs have to remain in Melbourne to prepare for the GF replay.
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Yep Eddy out but for who will be interesting as there's no one obvious. Out of Armitage, Geary or they could add an extra tall in Stanley.
McEvoy will need to come in for Gardiner if he's injured.
I think McEvoy will definentely come in for someone. I thought Eddy was okay in the last quarter. McQualter is another one who may be in the gun unless Gardiner does not come up and the swap will be like for like.
Leon Davis despite his goal only had 6 touches or so so he will be under pressure from Goldsack to keep his spot. Interesting to see what the weather will be like. If its raining I like St Kilda's chances even more. :thumbsup
2010 may have something to offer the Collingwood hating fan. Two Grand Final failures in the one season.
Their record is now 3 wins in their last 21 Grand Finals.
I hope the Pies keep Neon Leon in. The more maggies in the side that go missing in GFs the better lol. I also hope that Jolly gets sighted for his round-arm whack to Kosi's jaw on the boundary in the last quarter.
If the Saints had a reasonable bottom 6 they would've won today. Eddy, Ray, Blake, Dempster (although he was pretty decent in the second half), Peake and McQualter are the weak links. Do they still want Jordie? :lol.
ps. I think trade week will be left at it is. It might be problem if there's another draw :P. Remember also the Draft Combine (Camp) is on this week so the Saints and Pies will only be able to send up their recruiters to Canberra while their coaching staffs have to remain in Melbourne to prepare for the GF replay.
hearing you MT but on Neon Leon he has been getting managed for a injury for months & be very unlikly to play. Koz will be replaced cause his a very sore man tonight & if he plays would be a injustice to McEnvoy
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LOL Jake and Tucky. Very apt result when you put it like that :lol
I'm for one pro to keeping the replay. What's wrong with keeping a rare tradition when we all new the rules beforehand. Nah Nick let's have a sook after the result because the result didn't go your way :nopity. Not to mention the AFL will make $$$ from another $100k seats sold. Hopefully like 1977 more of the ordinary members can go to the replay. However I won't hold my breath as it'll be so typical of Demetriou and Anderson to overreact to something that has happened just 3 times in 150 years and change the rules to extra-time ::).
Agree MT its not the AFL's fault its a replay the rules have been their for 150 years. However it's a bad one, horrible one. My cousin a Saint tragic, missed out on a GF ticket, paid for a Sydney Swans corporate ticket package worth 1.4k and flown himself from London costing him $2k return has come and seen a draw and walk away without seeing a result... Makes no sense.
That aside in no professional sport do we have our Premiership day replayed if the teams are dead locked. Its common sense play extra time of 2 x 5 or 10 minute halves. If the scores are tied have another 2 minute halves and so on.
The draw as a whole is pointless, historical or not it shouldn't hold a place in our game anymore. Our game is not like soccer that rewards weaker teams for being defensively strong against stronger teams. If an AFL game is drawn both teams are good enough to win and should be given the opportunity to do so.
Its common sense, go into the rooms come out 10 mins later and play 2 x 5 or 10 min halves....
The replay is the fairest way to do it for the ones that matter -the teams. If you can't beat another side after two goes at them then you don't deserve the flag. Sorry about your cousin's bad luck Pope but there's plenty of mad Pie and Saint members who won't be able get a ticket to either GF.
Extra-time might sound good in theory but what happens if a side is down to two players on the bench. An extra 20 minutes would put them at a severe disadvantage. Speaking of Soccer there's even talk of having 50m kick-offs at goal :help. Sheesh how ridiculous would that be. At least now both sides can go away for a week and put 22 players on the park next Saturday and fight it out again.
Yeah understandably see the fairness of it, but the argument is endless is it fair that St.Kilda have to play another game without any input from Michael Gardiner? Understand they would in extra time as well but Jolly has a week to rest an go up against McEvoy/Kossi for 4 qtrs instead of Kossi for extra time.
If you've lost a player in a GF that cant come back for extra time it's very unlikely they'd be able to recover in 7 days, only in the minority of cases with concussions. Most other injuries would be multiple weeks otherwise in a GF the player would return.
The 50m shootout is ridiculous, hope it never even comes into the NAB cup.
I just feel for the players, they've given 400% for nothing. Yeah they get another chance next week but it just doesn't seem right.
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oh BTW MT there were no weak links on the ground for any club today, there was 2 full teams giving 100%
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MT who was your BOG today
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THATS WHAT I'M TALK'IN ABOUT ;D l love being a Richmond supporter. my son just showed me a video clip of a tuff Coughlan, memories
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oh BTW MT there were no weak links on the ground for any club today, there was 2 full teams giving 100%
In terms of 44 blokes showing guts, determination and leaving nothing out on the park that's true. Leigh Brown's mark against Gilbert in the last qtr with both running back with the flight of the ball was proof of that. However I was talking more about ability and making the right decisions under pressure. The bottom 6 of the Saints are jittery under pressure and can suffer from deer in the highlights not going for the first option.
My B.O.G. today was a toss up between Hayes and Goddard. Both are freaks in different ways. Hayes is similar to Brett Kirk. He just wills his side leading by example. Leadership we would love down at Richmond. Yes your man Thomas was best for the Pies. I thought Nathan Brown did a pretty good job on Riewoldt especially 1-on-1 inside 50 so it's going to interesting if Presti comes up which way Malthouse goes.
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played a good game Thomas thought he was easy BOG but anyway now my son & l was watching things in the car on thewway home & l just to get you to watch this cause its worth every minute of committment from a old footballer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbNyfl33GEU
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played a good game Thomas thought he was easy BOG but anyway now my son & l was watching things in the car on thewway home & l just to get you to watch this cause its worth every minute of committment from a old footballer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbNyfl33GEU
Goddard was best on by daylight. Hayes was superb and awesome in the last qtr and did the 1%'s all day but Goddards possessions got the Saints back in the game, his drive off half back ke[t them with in range of the Pies and his mark and goal at the end and his 2 goals got them in the lead. Easy BOG. Hayes still deserved but should have been Goddard. Fisher also had a cracker.
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Without responding specifically to the numerous good posts about today's game, here are my thoughts:
Was a great game.
Toss up between Hayes and Goddard for Norm Smith, Thomas best for Collingwood.
Body and verbal language from Saints camp post-game was much more positive than Collingwood.
Absolutely no need to change the draw to a shootout or extra time. And I need to address this one further - our game is great because it is what it is, we don't need to follow any other code because what they do seems good or right, we are the best code because we are unique and just one of the small things that make us unique is sending both teams back out next week for another crack. Other football codes have penalty shootouts, golden points, 5 minutes each way - which is the magical 'perfect' solution out of all of them? There is no other football code I know of that allows players forward of the ball - should we adopt an offside rule because of that? We hear constant whinging about the changing/adding/removing of rules that take away from the spectacle of our great game - why should we change one that is not broken and doesn't need fixing. Chasing a result with extra time etc only sates the needs of those seeking instant gratification and does nothing to enhance our game by reputation or as a spectacle. Leave the damn thing alone - 100k extra people will get to see an AFL grand final this year - how great is that!
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LOL Jake and Tucky. Very apt result when you put it like that :lol
I'm for one pro to keeping the replay. What's wrong with keeping a rare tradition when we all new the rules beforehand. Nah Nick let's have a sook after the result because the result didn't go your way :nopity. Not to mention the AFL will make $$$ from another $100k seats sold. Hopefully like 1977 more of the ordinary members can go to the replay. However I won't hold my breath as it'll be so typical of Demetriou and Anderson to overreact to something that has happened just 3 times in 150 years and change the rules to extra-time ::).
Agree MT its not the AFL's fault its a replay the rules have been their for 150 years. However it's a bad one, horrible one. My cousin a Saint tragic, missed out on a GF ticket, paid for a Sydney Swans corporate ticket package worth 1.4k and flown himself from London costing him $2k return has come and seen a draw and walk away without seeing a result... Makes no sense.
That aside in no professional sport do we have our Premiership day replayed if the teams are dead locked. Its common sense play extra time of 2 x 5 or 10 minute halves. If the scores are tied have another 2 minute halves and so on.
The draw as a whole is pointless, historical or not it shouldn't hold a place in our game anymore. Our game is not like soccer that rewards weaker teams for being defensively strong against stronger teams. If an AFL game is drawn both teams are good enough to win and should be given the opportunity to do so.
Its common sense, go into the rooms come out 10 mins later and play 2 x 5 or 10 min halves....
The replay is the fairest way to do it for the ones that matter -the teams. If you can't beat another side after two goes at them then you don't deserve the flag. Sorry about your cousin's bad luck Pope but there's plenty of mad Pie and Saint members who won't be able get a ticket to either GF.
Extra-time might sound good in theory but what happens if a side is down to two players on the bench. An extra 20 minutes would put them at a severe disadvantage. Speaking of Soccer there's even talk of having 50m kick-offs at goal :help. Sheesh how ridiculous would that be. At least now both sides can go away for a week and put 22 players on the park next Saturday and fight it out again.
Yeah understandably see the fairness of it, but the argument is endless is it fair that St.Kilda have to play another game without any input from Michael Gardiner? Understand they would in extra time as well but Jolly has a week to rest an go up against McEvoy/Kossi for 4 qtrs instead of Kossi for extra time.
If you've lost a player in a GF that cant come back for extra time it's very unlikely they'd be able to recover in 7 days, only in the minority of cases with concussions. Most other injuries would be multiple weeks otherwise in a GF the player would return.
The 50m shootout is ridiculous, hope it never even comes into the NAB cup.
I just feel for the players, they've given 400% for nothing. Yeah they get another chance next week but it just doesn't seem right.
Jolly has Leigh Brown as 2nd ruck as well so it would've been Jolly/Brown vs Kosi/Blake in extra time. Only Jolly is a true class ruckman from that quartet. At least now both sides can reset with two rucks of their choosing. I agree if a player cops an game-ending injury then he'll most likely not come up the following week but not always though. Ball and Dal Santo looked to have done their hammies last week and were off for the rest of their respective Preliminary Final but they came up for the GF. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one Pope. You'll get your wish next Saturday as the AFL site says extra-time will be played if there's another tie in the replay (two 5-minute periods).
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played a good game Thomas thought he was easy BOG but anyway now my son & l was watching things in the car on thewway home & l just to get you to watch this cause its worth every minute of committment from a old footballer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbNyfl33GEU
Goddard was best on by daylight. Hayes was superb and awesome in the last qtr and did the 1%'s all day but Goddards possessions got the Saints back in the game, his drive off half back ke[t them with in range of the Pies and his mark and goal at the end and his 2 goals got them in the lead. Easy BOG. Hayes still deserved but should have been Goddard. Fisher also had a cracker.
Goddard played half a game of football wake up
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I understand all the opinions and agree and love how unique our game is.
It just doesn't make sense to me that the score is even after 4 qtrs so lets restart in 7 days and see if its different after another 4 qtrs.
Grand Final day is Grand Final day, I don't know what the right answer is, they all have flaws. Yes it's great we have another grand final but that means it demeans the efforts of today, and I don't agree with that. If Saints win, Maxwell's diving save on the goal line means nothing. If Collingwood win, Goddards cloud soaring mark and goal means nothing. If we had extra time and St.Kilda won we would be talking about Goddards "Saint leap into Heaven and plucks out a Premiership" mark and goal that contributed to the draw and the eventual win.
A team should leave Grand Final day as Premiers no matter what in my opinion. And thats all it is just an opinion.
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LOL Jake and Tucky. Very apt result when you put it like that :lol
I'm for one pro to keeping the replay. What's wrong with keeping a rare tradition when we all new the rules beforehand. Nah Nick let's have a sook after the result because the result didn't go your way :nopity. Not to mention the AFL will make $$$ from another $100k seats sold. Hopefully like 1977 more of the ordinary members can go to the replay. However I won't hold my breath as it'll be so typical of Demetriou and Anderson to overreact to something that has happened just 3 times in 150 years and change the rules to extra-time ::).
Agree MT its not the AFL's fault its a replay the rules have been their for 150 years. However it's a bad one, horrible one. My cousin a Saint tragic, missed out on a GF ticket, paid for a Sydney Swans corporate ticket package worth 1.4k and flown himself from London costing him $2k return has come and seen a draw and walk away without seeing a result... Makes no sense.
That aside in no professional sport do we have our Premiership day replayed if the teams are dead locked. Its common sense play extra time of 2 x 5 or 10 minute halves. If the scores are tied have another 2 minute halves and so on.
The draw as a whole is pointless, historical or not it shouldn't hold a place in our game anymore. Our game is not like soccer that rewards weaker teams for being defensively strong against stronger teams. If an AFL game is drawn both teams are good enough to win and should be given the opportunity to do so.
Its common sense, go into the rooms come out 10 mins later and play 2 x 5 or 10 min halves....
The replay is the fairest way to do it for the ones that matter -the teams. If you can't beat another side after two goes at them then you don't deserve the flag. Sorry about your cousin's bad luck Pope but there's plenty of mad Pie and Saint members who won't be able get a ticket to either GF.
Extra-time might sound good in theory but what happens if a side is down to two players on the bench. An extra 20 minutes would put them at a severe disadvantage. Speaking of Soccer there's even talk of having 50m kick-offs at goal :help. Sheesh how ridiculous would that be. At least now both sides can go away for a week and put 22 players on the park next Saturday and fight it out again.
Yeah understandably see the fairness of it, but the argument is endless is it fair that St.Kilda have to play another game without any input from Michael Gardiner? Understand they would in extra time as well but Jolly has a week to rest an go up against McEvoy/Kossi for 4 qtrs instead of Kossi for extra time.
If you've lost a player in a GF that cant come back for extra time it's very unlikely they'd be able to recover in 7 days, only in the minority of cases with concussions. Most other injuries would be multiple weeks otherwise in a GF the player would return.
The 50m shootout is ridiculous, hope it never even comes into the NAB cup.
I just feel for the players, they've given 400% for nothing. Yeah they get another chance next week but it just doesn't seem right.
Jolly has Leigh Brown as 2nd ruck as well so it would've been Jolly/Brown vs Kosi/Blake in extra time. Only Jolly is a true class ruckman from that quartet. At least now both sides can reset with two rucks of their choosing. I agree if a player cops an game-ending injury then he'll most likely not come up the following week but not always though. Ball and Dal Santo looked to have done their hammies last week and were off for the rest of their respective Preliminary Final but they came up for the GF. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one Pope. You'll get your wish next Saturday as the AFL site says extra-time will be played if there's another tie in the replay (two 5-minute periods).
Yeah Ball looked very hindered, Dal looked OK.
Yeah its just my opinion, and yours is valid. I just think GF day should end in crowning a premier. If GF Day 2 is good enough for extra time, then why not the real GF day lol? Doesn't really make sense AFL. If a GF shouldn't be decided for extra time cause its unfair or for whatever reasons then next week should be the same? So I can't really understand that.
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played a good game Thomas thought he was easy BOG but anyway now my son & l was watching things in the car on thewway home & l just to get you to watch this cause its worth every minute of committment from a old footballer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbNyfl33GEU
Goddard was best on by daylight. Hayes was superb and awesome in the last qtr and did the 1%'s all day but Goddards possessions got the Saints back in the game, his drive off half back ke[t them with in range of the Pies and his mark and goal at the end and his 2 goals got them in the lead. Easy BOG. Hayes still deserved but should have been Goddard. Fisher also had a cracker.
Goddard played half a game of football wake up
Please, please try and argue that Goddard wasn't best on or at least 2nd best on. This will be humorous.
You must have been in the TAB at the end of the first qtr when Goddard resurged St.Kilda back within 1 kick.
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Without responding specifically to the numerous good posts about today's game, here are my thoughts:
Was a great game.
Toss up between Hayes and Goddard for Norm Smith, Thomas best for Collingwood.
Body and verbal language from Saints camp post-game was much more positive than Collingwood.
Absolutely no need to change the draw to a shootout or extra time. And I need to address this one further - our game is great because it is what it is, we don't need to follow any other code because what they do seems good or right, we are the best code because we are unique and just one of the small things that make us unique is sending both teams back out next week for another crack. Other football codes have penalty shootouts, golden points, 5 minutes each way - which is the magical 'perfect' solution out of all of them? There is no other football code I know of that allows players forward of the ball - should we adopt an offside rule because of that? We hear constant whinging about the changing/adding/removing of rules that take away from the spectacle of our great game - why should we change one that is not broken and doesn't need fixing. Chasing a result with extra time etc only sates the needs of those seeking instant gratification and does nothing to enhance our game by reputation or as a spectacle. Leave the damn thing alone - 100k extra people will get to see an AFL grand final this year - how great is that!
Hey old fella thought you be in bed by now ;D tea sipper lolol. was a super game live. bit furry at the start. nerves real bad all round, took a good 15 mins to settle. knew it would be close but not that freakin close ;D was looking at a good payment off the skunks :'( such is life ;D how close lol. mate Goddard was covered & thumbled with his idiot in the 1st 1/4, Thomas was awesome, Cloke is a loser
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LOL Jake and Tucky. Very apt result when you put it like that :lol
I'm for one pro to keeping the replay. What's wrong with keeping a rare tradition when we all new the rules beforehand. Nah Nick let's have a sook after the result because the result didn't go your way :nopity. Not to mention the AFL will make $$$ from another $100k seats sold. Hopefully like 1977 more of the ordinary members can go to the replay. However I won't hold my breath as it'll be so typical of Demetriou and Anderson to overreact to something that has happened just 3 times in 150 years and change the rules to extra-time ::).
Agree MT its not the AFL's fault its a replay the rules have been their for 150 years. However it's a bad one, horrible one. My cousin a Saint tragic, missed out on a GF ticket, paid for a Sydney Swans corporate ticket package worth 1.4k and flown himself from London costing him $2k return has come and seen a draw and walk away without seeing a result... Makes no sense.
That aside in no professional sport do we have our Premiership day replayed if the teams are dead locked. Its common sense play extra time of 2 x 5 or 10 minute halves. If the scores are tied have another 2 minute halves and so on.
The draw as a whole is pointless, historical or not it shouldn't hold a place in our game anymore. Our game is not like soccer that rewards weaker teams for being defensively strong against stronger teams. If an AFL game is drawn both teams are good enough to win and should be given the opportunity to do so.
Its common sense, go into the rooms come out 10 mins later and play 2 x 5 or 10 min halves....
The replay is the fairest way to do it for the ones that matter -the teams. If you can't beat another side after two goes at them then you don't deserve the flag. Sorry about your cousin's bad luck Pope but there's plenty of mad Pie and Saint members who won't be able get a ticket to either GF.
Extra-time might sound good in theory but what happens if a side is down to two players on the bench. An extra 20 minutes would put them at a severe disadvantage. Speaking of Soccer there's even talk of having 50m kick-offs at goal :help. Sheesh how ridiculous would that be. At least now both sides can go away for a week and put 22 players on the park next Saturday and fight it out again.
Yeah understandably see the fairness of it, but the argument is endless is it fair that St.Kilda have to play another game without any input from Michael Gardiner? Understand they would in extra time as well but Jolly has a week to rest an go up against McEvoy/Kossi for 4 qtrs instead of Kossi for extra time.
If you've lost a player in a GF that cant come back for extra time it's very unlikely they'd be able to recover in 7 days, only in the minority of cases with concussions. Most other injuries would be multiple weeks otherwise in a GF the player would return.
The 50m shootout is ridiculous, hope it never even comes into the NAB cup.
I just feel for the players, they've given 400% for nothing. Yeah they get another chance next week but it just doesn't seem right.
Jolly has Leigh Brown as 2nd ruck as well so it would've been Jolly/Brown vs Kosi/Blake in extra time. Only Jolly is a true class ruckman from that quartet. At least now both sides can reset with two rucks of their choosing. I agree if a player cops an game-ending injury then he'll most likely not come up the following week but not always though. Ball and Dal Santo looked to have done their hammies last week and were off for the rest of their respective Preliminary Final but they came up for the GF. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one Pope. You'll get your wish next Saturday as the AFL site says extra-time will be played if there's another tie in the replay (two 5-minute periods).
Yeah Ball looked very hindered, Dal looked OK.
Yeah its just my opinion, and yours is valid. I just think GF day should end in crowning a premier. If GF Day 2 is good enough for extra time, then why not the real GF day lol? Doesn't really make sense AFL. If a GF shouldn't be decided for extra time cause its unfair or for whatever reasons then next week should be the same? So I can't really understand that.
Yeah I agree extra-time after a tied GF replay doesn't make sense if you don't allow it after tied GF. I guess Cricket can't wait until Feb to start lol so a cut-off has to come in. I'd just have replay after replay. It's highly unlikely there'll be 2 draws in a row let alone 3.
Another reason for my view Pope is that I also grew up watching FA Cup replays on tv and loved them. In any football code the more you play one other club the bigger the rivalry that builds up. Sadly the tv networks and corporates got all upset about having to reschedule for a rematch the following week and that's how we now have stupid penalty shootouts to decide Soccer games. Yeah sure they are dramatic and "great tv" but after playing a whole game as a team sport it's then reduced to practically an individual toss of the coin to decide the winner. I would hate to see that happen in Aussie Rules and for what for. Because we've had 3 tied GFs in 150 years and that's such a major problem with the game ???. What happens if the teams aren't split after extra-time. Some clown like Adrian Anderson will want to "fix" that problem too by introducing 50m shootouts Soccer-style. It's all opinion but IMO replays are the fairest way to decide the premiership if there's a draw. If tv networks, corporates, theatregoers, Nick Maxwell, etc don't like it then stiff! ;D. Replays also mean more of the true passionate supporters who go each and every week can go which is also a good thing all round. The atmosphere next week will be 10 times better :yep.
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That's enough with personal slanging match which is irrelevant to the topic. Leave it off the forum or it'll be snipped!
Here's the info for the GF replay btw.....
Grand Final Replay - Ticket info, extra time confirmed
By Jennifer Witham
6:52 PM Sat 25 Sep, 2010
THE GRAND final replay between Collingwood and St Kilda will take place at the MCG next Saturday afternoon, with two five-minute periods to be added in the event of another draw.
More Magpies and Saints members will be able to attend the game - to be played at 2.30pm on October 2 - with 16,000 tickets on top of the normal 25,000 to be made available.
Competing club members can purchase tickets from 9am on Monday while AFL members will get their opportunity from 9am on Tuesday.
The general public will have access to any remaining tickets at 9am on Wednesday.
Ticket prices will remain the same, as will uniforms, dressing rooms and game-day scheduling.
Arrangements for any events during what is the second grand final week will be announced by the League on Monday.
* The Melbourne Cricket Club says about 12,000 reserved seats on levels 1, 2 and 4 will go on sale to full members on Tuesday at noon. There will be a maximum of eight seats available per transaction.
Tickets will be available on a first-in, best-dressed basis through Ticketek and in person at the membership ticket windows at gate 2 of the MCG.
The remaining 10,000 seats and 1000 standing room spots not sold in advance will be available when gates open at 10.30am next Saturday.
Full members may queue for walk-up seating outside the members' entrance at gate 2, with queuing arrangements the same as they were for the grand final.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103194/default.aspx
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LOL Jake and Tucky. Very apt result when you put it like that :lol
I'm for one pro to keeping the replay. What's wrong with keeping a rare tradition when we all new the rules beforehand. Nah Nick let's have a sook after the result because the result didn't go your way :nopity. Not to mention the AFL will make $$$ from another $100k seats sold. Hopefully like 1977 more of the ordinary members can go to the replay. However I won't hold my breath as it'll be so typical of Demetriou and Anderson to overreact to something that has happened just 3 times in 150 years and change the rules to extra-time ::).
Agree MT its not the AFL's fault its a replay the rules have been their for 150 years. However it's a bad one, horrible one. My cousin a Saint tragic, missed out on a GF ticket, paid for a Sydney Swans corporate ticket package worth 1.4k and flown himself from London costing him $2k return has come and seen a draw and walk away without seeing a result... Makes no sense.
That aside in no professional sport do we have our Premiership day replayed if the teams are dead locked. Its common sense play extra time of 2 x 5 or 10 minute halves. If the scores are tied have another 2 minute halves and so on.
The draw as a whole is pointless, historical or not it shouldn't hold a place in our game anymore. Our game is not like soccer that rewards weaker teams for being defensively strong against stronger teams. If an AFL game is drawn both teams are good enough to win and should be given the opportunity to do so.
Its common sense, go into the rooms come out 10 mins later and play 2 x 5 or 10 min halves....
The replay is the fairest way to do it for the ones that matter -the teams. If you can't beat another side after two goes at them then you don't deserve the flag. Sorry about your cousin's bad luck Pope but there's plenty of mad Pie and Saint members who won't be able get a ticket to either GF.
Extra-time might sound good in theory but what happens if a side is down to two players on the bench. An extra 20 minutes would put them at a severe disadvantage. Speaking of Soccer there's even talk of having 50m kick-offs at goal :help. Sheesh how ridiculous would that be. At least now both sides can go away for a week and put 22 players on the park next Saturday and fight it out again.
Yeah understandably see the fairness of it, but the argument is endless is it fair that St.Kilda have to play another game without any input from Michael Gardiner? Understand they would in extra time as well but Jolly has a week to rest an go up against McEvoy/Kossi for 4 qtrs instead of Kossi for extra time.
If you've lost a player in a GF that cant come back for extra time it's very unlikely they'd be able to recover in 7 days, only in the minority of cases with concussions. Most other injuries would be multiple weeks otherwise in a GF the player would return.
The 50m shootout is ridiculous, hope it never even comes into the NAB cup.
I just feel for the players, they've given 400% for nothing. Yeah they get another chance next week but it just doesn't seem right.
Jolly has Leigh Brown as 2nd ruck as well so it would've been Jolly/Brown vs Kosi/Blake in extra time. Only Jolly is a true class ruckman from that quartet. At least now both sides can reset with two rucks of their choosing. I agree if a player cops an game-ending injury then he'll most likely not come up the following week but not always though. Ball and Dal Santo looked to have done their hammies last week and were off for the rest of their respective Preliminary Final but they came up for the GF. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one Pope. You'll get your wish next Saturday as the AFL site says extra-time will be played if there's another tie in the replay (two 5-minute periods).
Yeah Ball looked very hindered, Dal looked OK.
Yeah its just my opinion, and yours is valid. I just think GF day should end in crowning a premier. If GF Day 2 is good enough for extra time, then why not the real GF day lol? Doesn't really make sense AFL. If a GF shouldn't be decided for extra time cause its unfair or for whatever reasons then next week should be the same? So I can't really understand that.
Yeah I agree extra-time after a tied GF replay doesn't make sense if you don't allow it after tied GF. I guess Cricket can't wait until Feb to start lol so a cut-off has to come in. I'd just have replay after replay. It's highly unlikely there'll be 2 draws in a row let alone 3.
Another reason for my view Pope is that I also grew up watching FA Cup replays on tv and loved them. In any football code the more you play one other club the bigger the rivalry that builds up. Sadly the tv networks and corporates got all upset about having to reschedule for a rematch the following week and that's how we now have stupid penalty shootouts to decide Soccer games. Yeah sure they are dramatic and "great tv" but after playing a whole game as a team sport it's then reduced to practically an individual toss of the coin to decide the winner. I would hate to see that happen in Aussie Rules and for what for. Because we've had 3 tied GFs in 150 years and that's such a major problem with the game ???. What happens if the teams aren't split after extra-time. Some clown like Adrian Anderson will want to "fix" that problem too by introducing 50m shootouts Soccer-style. It's all opinion but IMO replays are the fairest way to decide the premiership if there's a draw. If tv networks, corporates, theatregoers, Nick Maxwell, etc don't like it then stiff! ;D. Replays also mean more of the true passionate supporters who go each and every week can go which is also a good thing all round. The atmosphere next week will be 10 times better :yep.
You make great points MT, something inside me just feels empty that a premier wasn't crowned today. It will disappear next week when the Saints hopefully get up, I hope its close and nail biting as today and we remember it as being a good of a game as we would have if today we found a premier.
Hope Jolly gets rubbed out, no chance tho lol but its exactly the same as Jason Cloke in 02 lol
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do St Kilda even have 1 or 2 players who didnt play that can come in and help em out. Players like Eddy made little to no contribution.
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do St Kilda even have 1 or 2 players who didnt play that can come in and help em out. Players like Eddy made little to no contribution.
Eddy had a plate inserted in his jaw, probably shouldnt have played.
What about Leon Davis??? Kicked one goal but did nothing, they couldnt go again with him next week
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Great game of hard, tough football. Both sides should be commended although you'd give the game to the Saints given the way they fought back in the 2nd half. I presume that might use that during the week.
Hayes was BOG for mine, 32 touches, 5 inside 50's, 12 tackles and 11 contested possessions was a decent contribution. His last qtr reminded me of Vossy in 2002.
If you've ever been at a draw, it feels like the atmosphere of the game gets completely sucked out of the stadium when the siren goes The contrast with 100k screaming and then nothing was surreal.
I thought it was a great that both supporters gave their sides applause at the end of the game - nice touch.
It looked like the Colliwobbles didn't it?
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My best for the saints were Goddard, Hayes, Fisher and Gwilt.
i thought when under the pump, both Fisher and Gwilt defended gallantly :thumbsup
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Great game of hard, tough football. Both sides should be commended although you'd give the game to the Saints given the way they fought back in the 2nd half. I presume that might use that during the week.
Hayes was BOG for mine, 32 touches, 5 inside 50's, 12 tackles and 11 contested possessions was a decent contribution. His last qtr reminded me of Vossy in 2002.
If you've ever been at a draw, it feels like the atmosphere of the game gets completely sucked out of the stadium when the siren goes The contrast with 100k screaming and then nothing was surreal.
I thought it was a great that both supporters gave their sides applause at the end of the game - nice touch.
It looked like the Colliwobbles didn't it?
I thought they looked totally spent by the second quarter, they thought they could blow the saints away early and cruise it out like they did with the Cats. End of the second they were fumbling and falling over and looked buggered. The halftime break gives u a bit of a freshen up but your still gonna fatigue pretty quick again. Their style of play is manic, if the Saints can soak it without as much running they will out last em.
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I have a confession to make
The draw reminded me of the one in the '70s when North played Collingwood and I went to the game barracking for the Pies. Even wore the colours!!!
That's how much I hated North at the time and still do :help
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My best for the saints were Goddard, Hayes, Fisher and Gwilt.
i thought when under the pump, both Fisher and Gwilt defended gallantly :thumbsup
Clearly dont follow opposition teams closely but Gwilts improved a hell of a lot from the last time I remember him. Not a bad player is Gwilt.
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My best for the saints were Goddard, Hayes, Fisher and Gwilt.
i thought when under the pump, both Fisher and Gwilt defended gallantly :thumbsup
Clearly dont follow opposition teams closely but Gwilts improved a hell of a lot from the last time I remember him. Not a bad player is Gwilt.
He played well in the game that counted
Thought he was good!
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Amazing game, I'm glad there is another one next weekend. Shattered that ball didn't bounce through for the Saints near the end.
No way should we change the rule regarding the grand final replay, half the games of soccer played end in a draw each week, we have had 3 drawn grand finals in over 100 years and only a couple of draws in almost 200 games of AFL played each year.
I'm a little worried that Collingwood now have the ability to drop that spud Davis, it may give them the edge. Although Saints will be able to replace Gardiner with McEvoy so hopefully that balances it up.
I'm definitely hopeful after the body language after the game Saints were far more positive and even the first interviews after the game Goddard was a star, absolutely positive and looking forward to next week. That strawman Maxwell just had another sook.
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Amazing game, I'm glad there is another one next weekend. Shattered that ball didn't bounce through for the Saints near the end.
No way should we change the rule regarding the grand final replay, half the games of soccer played end in a draw each week, we have had 3 drawn grand finals in over 100 years and only a couple of draws in almost 200 games of AFL played each year.
I'm a little worried that Collingwood now have the ability to drop that spud Davis, it may give them the edge. Although Saints will be able to replace Gardiner with McEvoy so hopefully that balances it up.
I'm definitely hopeful after the body language after the game Saints were far more positive and even the first interviews after the game Goddard was a star, absolutely positive and looking forward to next week. That strawman Maxwell just had another sook.
Love that Maxwell continues to make a fool out of himself.
Hes never seen blokes go to war like that... What an idiot. Hopefully that is used to spur on the Saints. The Pies dont wanna be there. Would love 2010 to be there year that Collingwood couldnt win 1 of 2 GF's :clapping :clapping
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Zac Dawson was another player that was super.
He saved them time and time again, was the unsung hero yesterday.
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As i posted here last week re weakness of Harry O'brien.
Good to see the saints expose him in a marking contest where he was outmarked by Milne in the last quarter. ( saints took him back deep so it was a one on one, then just send a high ball in )
As Infamy says, I know nothing about football. ;)
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he was caught off balance J ;D a one off
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he was caught off balance J ;D a one off
No one off, Milne way too smart for him.
Easily exposed is Harry O, with the right match up :thumbsup
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he was caught off balance J ;D a one off
No one off, Milne way too smart for him.
Easily exposed is Harry O, with the right match up :thumbsup
haha l actually laughed when he got outdone by the rapster ;D
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How about when Harry outmarked Schnieder?
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How about when Harry outmarked Schnieder?
Harry played a good game l thought, l'm just glad we get more football & get to go back to a Grand Final ;D
l never been too 2 AFL grand finals in 1 year ;D
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Replay rule here to stay: AFL
By Jennifer Witham
Sun 26 Sep, 2010
THE AFL will not introduce extra time for drawn grand finals, CEO Andrew Demetriou said on Sunday.
St Kilda and Collingwood drew 68-apiece on Saturday afternoon, forcing an administrative scramble as the League prepares to stage only the third grand final replay in VFL/AFL history.
Broadcasters Channel 7 requested a twilight or night replay but Demetriou said it “wasn’t the right time to experiment” with changing the game’s start time.
Demetriou said it was important to maintain the game's uniqueness and avoid a knee-jerk reaction to Saturday’s draw.
"The AFL is of the view that a drawn grand final is a significant part of our game, and part of what makes our sport ... so unique,” he said on Sunday morning.
"All clubs, players, fans and supporters are aware that we will always replay a drawn grand final.
“We have done our best not to follow other sports.
“Since 1897 there have only been 146 draws in the competition with just three in grand finals.
“For anyone there yesterday, I don’t think they will forget the experience of being at the grand final."
Demetriou said the AFL would ratify a rule by close of business on Monday to prevent the teams from drawing again next week. Extra time will be played if the replay also ends in a draw.
“It would be a really huge ask to ask the clubs to come back again a week later,” he said.
“There are people that have made plans for this week and next, other sporting organisations.
“We understand the VRC will be moving the Turnbull Stakes to Sunday, there’s a world cycling event next Saturday afternoon, there’s the Melbourne Heart/Melbourne Victory derby on Saturday night.
“We certainly don’t want to be disrupting too many other codes.”
Up to 16,000 further tickets will be made available to Collingwood and St Kilda members for the replay, on top of the 25,000 already allocated.
“This week gives us an opportunity to get more members in, and we’re pleased with that,” Demetriou said.
“We’ve had a debate already about whether all members will take up the offer - I hope they do, but if they don’t, the tickets will go on public sale.”
The AFL said it would put profits from the replay back into the game and its development.
The clubs will also be compensated for the cancellation of functions and players will be rewarded for participation in another match.
Pre-game entertainment for the replay is yet to be determined, and the City of Melbourne is cooperating with the AFL in securing the continuation of a live site.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103224/default.aspx
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How about when Harry outmarked Schnieder?
he did have the drop on him.
I am talking about having him one on one in the goal square on a high ball coming in, he aint good
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My feeling about the replay is that Collingwood have more improvement in them given Swan really didn't have too much of an effect and even Didak was kept quiet for long periods. The question will be whether the pies can raise their game again after being so disappointed.
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My feeling about the replay is that Collingwood have more improvement in them given Swan really didn't have too much of an effect and even Didak was kept quiet for long periods. The question will be whether the pies can raise their game again after being so disappointed.
Not to mention teh Physical strain on there bodys
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Maggies will win next week.
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saints will win next week
Cant see the Pies having 62 inside 50,s two weeks in a row,
Also Jolley might get 2 weeks
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saints will win next week
Cant see the Pies having 62 inside 50,s two weeks in a row,
Also Jolley might get 2 weeks
if you PM your bank details jack im willing to lay a wager Jolly will get scot free. No report no suspensions coming his way.
The AFL is a joke. No reports but if it was round 1 you bet he would be having a holiday.
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I can't see the pies getting up after thinking they could blow them out of the water. They were fumbling by the end of the second in exhaustion. That will be in their heads messing with em.
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Maxwell looks like a big rabbit with those two front teeth. I hope he and his filthy mob end up like the boiled bunny in Fatal Attraction next Saturday. Go Saints!
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Daniel/MT I humbly conceed and apologise.
GF week all over again is unreal. Something about a draw doesn't feel right on the day but yu get over it and just get pumped for next week.
Wonder if Ablett will put off his decision for another week, same with Hird. Trade week 2 days after a GF loss for the loser!
Good stuff :thumbsup
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saints will win next week
Cant see the Pies having 62 inside 50,s two weeks in a row,
Also Jolley might get 2 weeks
BUMP!!!
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/nervous-wait-for-four-players-contesting-the-grand-final-replay/story-e6frf9jf-1225929740227
The AFL are a joke how about letting the whole year be decided like this game was. Umpring was excellent but come Round 1 we will be back to the same old rubbish
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Pies gave it everything they had, exposed the saints early but couldn't seal the deal and are now spent emotionally.
Saints worked them out and will beat them next week. Played a man short for a half and had their fair share of good players not impacting the game. (Dal Santo, Montagna, Gram, Schneider)
go saints
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Magpies never played to thier full ability, alot of players in thier side can lift. This draw is enough to wake them up.
Magpies by 21 pts in the replay
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Magpies never played to thier full ability, alot of players in thier side can lift. This draw is enough to wake them up.
Magpies by 21 pts in the replay
You're biased as you're a Collingwood member
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Riewoldt, Schneider and Milne were pretty quiet up front for their standards.
Montagna and Dal Santo were pretty quiet.
Saints to lift with more belief the almighty Pies aren't invincible. Collingwood are mentally weak and will be shaken up and have less self belief than last week.
Saints want it more.
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Magpies never played to thier full ability, alot of players in thier side can lift. This draw is enough to wake them up.
Magpies by 21 pts in the replay
You're biased as you're a Collingwood member
oh l'm biased now, are you the forum boss now that tells people thier biased because they have backed a team or have a different opinion to you.
well l'm so sorry Imfamy your always correct l should back the Saint, who cares.
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Some good footage of last 30 seconds and crowd reaction after the siren from a spectator's vantage point in the stands....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Buk7h5e-EKs&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Buk7h5e-EKs&feature=player_embedded)
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WAR has broken out between Eddie McGuire and "human headline" Derryn Hinch over allegations the Magpies' boss sledged his own players.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/derryn-hinch-accuses-eddie-mcguire-of-bagging-collingwood-as-cripples/story-e6frf7kx-1225930250078
;D
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The draw would've been shattering after all the Logies Eddie has had sacrifice for the Pies :wallywink :rollin
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The draw would've been shattering after all the Logies Eddie has had sacrifice for the Pies :wallywink :rollin
:rollin
Gonna be hard to prove Hinchy
And if he did say it, just calling it as it is :lol
The human headline is going to go out naming and bagging everyone, so best everybody stay tidy for the next couple of months lol
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saints will win
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I think the Pies have already peaked and are now on the way down.
Saints by 54.
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Tickets to replay now in sky rocket.
Saints by 1 in extra time - lol Make em suffer to the end.
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Pies again. Only just this time. 10 points.
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Pies again by 28 points ;D
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saints by a point :thumbsup
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Saints to take control of the match and deflower the hapless pies
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Saints easily.
How good is it to watch the Pies fail in two GF's in the one season. :lol :rollin :lol
Only thing better for me is watching the filth from Carlscum emulate that feat. :thumbsup
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Saints easily.
How good is it to watch the Pies fail in two GF's in the one season. :lol :rollin :lol
Only thing better for me is watching the filth from Carlscum emulate that feat. :thumbsup
i dont know about that Tucker.
After seeing the Pies play a few times this year including the prelim against the Cats i would say they have the worst supporters in the league by far.
Carlton supporters are quite humorous especially the wogs that call up from lalor..
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Saints easily.
How good is it to watch the Pies fail in two GF's in the one season. :lol :rollin :lol
Only thing better for me is watching the filth from Carlscum emulate that feat. :thumbsup
how did they fail, it was a draw :lol thats not failure. Thats luck by both sides
Now if the Saints lost they would have lost 2 in 2 Grand finals, now thats a fail.
on the other hand Carlscum the worst team on the planet can rot in grease ;D
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Saints easily.
How good is it to watch the Pies fail in two GF's in the one season. :lol :rollin :lol
Only thing better for me is watching the filth from Carlscum emulate that feat. :thumbsup
how did they fail, it was a draw :lol thats not failure. Thats luck by both sides
Now if the Saints lost they would have lost 2 in 2 Grand finals, now thats a fail.
on the other hand Carlscum the worst team on the planet can rot in grease ;D
A draw in a GF is not a success. Noone plays a GF to draw. You still fail to win the GF by drawing it.
The only saving grace is you get another go at it.
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Saints easily.
How good is it to watch the Pies fail in two GF's in the one season. :lol :rollin :lol
Only thing better for me is watching the filth from Carlscum emulate that feat. :thumbsup
how did they fail, it was a draw :lol thats not failure. Thats luck by both sides
Now if the Saints lost they would have lost 2 in 2 Grand finals, now thats a fail.
on the other hand Carlscum the worst team on the planet can rot in grease ;D
A draw in a GF is not a success. Noone plays a GF to draw. You still fail to win the GF by drawing it.
The only saving grace is you get another go at it.
Tucker sorry but that made no sence at all ;D
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Saints easily.
How good is it to watch the Pies fail in two GF's in the one season. :lol :rollin :lol
Only thing better for me is watching the filth from Carlscum emulate that feat. :thumbsup
how did they fail, it was a draw :lol thats not failure. Thats luck by both sides
Now if the Saints lost they would have lost 2 in 2 Grand finals, now thats a fail.
on the other hand Carlscum the worst team on the planet can rot in grease ;D
A draw in a GF is not a success. Noone plays a GF to draw. You still fail to win the GF by drawing it.
The only saving grace is you get another go at it.
Tucker sorry but that made no sence at all ;D
;D
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LIONEL Richie will be the headline musical act at this weekend's grand final replay at the MCG.
Richie will perform post-match at the AFL Live Site at AAMI Park courtesy of the Victorian Government.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103434/default.aspx
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LIONEL Richie will be the headline musical act at this weekend's grand final replay at the MCG.
Can always trust the AFL to be at the cutting edge of musical entertainment.
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If the pies lose maybe he can sing 'you're once, twice, three times a loser' to Eddie, Mick, Bucks, Johnson and Presti
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Never mind the toilets overflowing. If Lionel Richie sings "Hello", the grandstands will be awash with vomit. :chuck
Speaking of vomit, I agree Tiger Monk that Carlscum are the worst team in the land. But Collingwood are only a hair's breadth behind them.
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Never mind the toilets overflowing. If Lionel Richie sings "Hello", the grandstands will be awash with vomit. :chuck
Speaking of vomit, I agree Tiger Monk that Carlscum are the worst team in the land. But Collingwood are only a hair's breadth behind them.
l fully agree with you RR
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What are you talking about? Collingwood is THE enemy followed by Carlton, thats the order, always has been. You guys don't even remember going to Vic park and having to fight for your life to get on the train with them feral bastards attacking you. I poo you not. They would wait for opposition supporters who were on their own or in smaller groups and attack them. Gutless bastards. Carlton supporters never did that at least. Collingwood are scum, with scum, lowlife supporters.
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If the pies lose maybe he can sing 'you're once, twice, three times a loser' to Eddie, Mick, Bucks, Johnson and Presti
Lol - If West Coast Eagles happened to be playing, dancing on the ceiling would be a must.
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What are you talking about? Collingwood is THE enemy followed by Carlton, thats the order, always has been. You guys don't even remember going to Vic park and having to fight for your life to get on the train with them feral bastards attacking you. I poo you not. They would wait for opposition supporters who were on their own or in smaller groups and attack them. Gutless bastards. Carlton supporters never did that at least. Collingwood are scum, with scum, lowlife supporters.
Owl, you're quite correct with that recollection.
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Here's the teams......
Collingwood
B: Nick Maxwell, Nathan Brown, Alan Toovey
HB: Harry O'Brien, Ben Reid, Heath Shaw
C: Sharrod Wellingham, Dane Swan, Ben Johnson
HF: Alan Didak, Travis Cloke, Luke Ball
F: Dayne Beams, Chris Dawes, Steele Sidebottom
Foll: Darren Jolly, Scott Pendlebury, Dale Thomas
I/C: Tyson Goldsack, Leigh Brown, Brent Macaffer, Jarryd Blair
Emg: John McCarthy, Tarkyn Lockyer, Simon Prestigiacomo
In: Goldsack
Out: Leon Davis
St Kilda
B: Jason Gram, Zac Dawson, Sam Gilbert
HB: Jason Blake, Sam Fisher, Robert Eddy
C: Brendon Goddard, Nick Dal Santo, Farren Ray
HF: Brett Peake, Justin Koschitzke, Leigh Montagna
F: Adam Schneider, Nick Riewoldt, Stephen Milne
Foll: Ben McEvoy, Lenny Hayes, Clinton Jones
I/C: Andrew McQualter, James Gwilt, Steven Baker, Sean Dempster
Emg: Jarryn Geary, Rhys Stanley, David Armitage
In: McEvoy
Out: Michael Gardiner (hamstring)
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Damn straight Bernie, It happened to my old man as well when he was a youngster lol so they been doing it for a long time.
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Pies will still be too quick - so Pies by a couple of goals.
Goddard for the NS medal.
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What are you talking about? Collingwood is THE enemy followed by Carlton, thats the order, always has been. You guys don't even remember going to Vic park and having to fight for your life to get on the train with them feral bastards attacking you. I poo you not. They would wait for opposition supporters who were on their own or in smaller groups and attack them. Gutless bastards. Carlton supporters never did that at least. Collingwood are scum, with scum, lowlife supporters.
Yeah Owl, for me it's kind of 50-50. I despise them both equally, and it kind of drifts in and out depending on which one is having more success at any particular time.
But I think I loathe Carlton more because they've robbed us of our rightful Premierships twice in my lifetime. I still wish I could go back and fix '82 in particular. When is somebody going to come up with that Delorian? :lol
P.S. I don't remember any horror stories from Vic Park. We mostly played the Black and White scum at the Gee in my recollections. Though I did get jumped by a Fitzroy supporter once when I threw my record at Gary Wilson post- match after the little umpires pet gave me the s#!'s all day.
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Leon Davis is a bad out .............. for the Saints lol.
As much as hope the Pies choke again and lose :pray, I think last week most things went the Saints way which may not happen this time around. St Kilda survived the Pies' early blitzrieg and were still in the game at half time thanks to Cloke choking in front of the big sticks again. It was also low scoring which meant the game was played on St Kilda's terms for most of it. Backing up again may see a more open game in the replay as happened in 1977 which this time around will suit Collingwood :(.
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Collingwood play an open style of game?? Since when MT??? Both sides play a hideous form of constipation, hence the pathetic scoreline of 68 last week.
Don't give up on the Saints yet either.
I reckon psychologically that draw hurt Collingwood a lot more, because they thought they had it in the bag. Just compare Riewoldt's very positive marshalling of the troops post-siren, to Maxwell's sooky-la-la to Richo how the draw was a joke. Even his President had to shut him up, if we believe Hinch :lol
I'm hoping too :pray that the frenetic style of game Collingwood plays, constantly running to block space, will have taken the run out of their legs.
SAINTS BY A WHOPPING MARGIN :thumbsup
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What are you talking about? Collingwood is THE enemy followed by Carlton, thats the order, always has been. You guys don't even remember going to Vic park and having to fight for your life to get on the train with them feral bastards attacking you. I poo you not. They would wait for opposition supporters who were on their own or in smaller groups and attack them. Gutless bastards. Carlton supporters never did that at least. Collingwood are scum, with scum, lowlife supporters.
Yeah Owl, for me it's kind of 50-50. I despise them both equally, and it kind of drifts in and out depending on which one is having more success at any particular time.
But I think I loathe Carlton more because they've robbed us of our rightful Premierships twice in my lifetime. I still wish I could go back and fix '82 in particular. When is somebody going to come up with that Delorian? :lol
P.S. I don't remember any horror stories from Vic Park. We mostly played the Black and White scum at the Gee in my recollections. Though I did get jumped by a Fitzroy supporter once when I threw my record at Gary Wilson post- match after the little umpires pet gave me the s#!'s all day.
LOL ill pay the 82 final...still gives me the shell grits too.
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Collingwood play an open style of game?? Since when MT??? Both sides play a hideous form of constipation, hence the pathetic scoreline of 68 last week.
Don't give up on the Saints yet either.
I reckon psychologically that draw hurt Collingwood a lot more, because they thought they had it in the bag. Just compare Riewoldt's very positive marshalling of the troops post-siren, to Maxwell's sooky-la-la to Richo how the draw was a joke. Even his President had to shut him up, if we believe Hinch :lol
I'm hoping too :pray that the frenetic style of game Collingwood plays, constantly running to block space, will have taken the run out of their legs.
SAINTS BY A WHOPPING MARGIN :thumbsup
I hope you're right RR :pray
What I meant btw is the Pies like playing on the spread along the boundary. If the Saints don't match the Pies workrate then that'll give Collingwood space along the boundary and for their frontrunners to "cheat" forward of the play and wait for the soft hero possie rather than be accountable for an opponent. Last week these frontrunners couldn't get these usual cheap possies forward of the play as the Saints amped up their workrate after half-time. Recovery during the week is going to have a big say tomorrow. Any tiredness by either or both sides will open the game considerably up especially after half-time. St Kilda doesn't want an open game given their close-in negative low scoring gamestyle that Lyon learnt from Roos up in Sydney.
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My mum got punched by a Carlton supporter (male) i effing hate carlton supporters.. put i have started a few fights with pie supporters :cheers
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Collingwood are the worst for mine. Jack Dyer famously said he wouldn't even watch B&W TV he hated Collingwood that much. That's a good enough reason lol :yep.
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The other thing is MT, I think the Saints may have figured Collingwood out. If they apply the lessons they learned in that 2nd half in particular to tomorrows game, I reckon they should have their measure.
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Took the Saints by 20 last week - see no reason to change my mind this week.
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The other thing is MT, I think the Saints may have figured Collingwood out. If they apply the lessons they learned in that 2nd half in particular to tomorrows game, I reckon they should have their measure.
Let's hope so RR. Saints need to stick with Collingwood up to half-time. The Pies have started with their early blitz again. Thankfully the ump took the ball off Cloke in the goalsquare but they're dominating so far :-\.
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LMAO at Riewoldt the spaz, luckily we got the better one
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Who is Kosi playing for
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Bottom 6 of the Saints hurting them again. Peake playing on before thinking and kicks across the ground to a lumbering ruckman and misses the target gifting the Pies a goal.
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Saints have had their chances in the first half but they're the ones choking in front of the sticks this week. You're not going to win games kicking 1.8 goal in a half.
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Colonwood's to lose again.
Saints to kick the first 3 goals of the third. :pray
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Col E Wobbles where are you?
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Col E Wobbles where are you?
PROBLEM is theyre playing the saints who have got the worst culture in AFL history along with the Bulldogs.
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Time to turn off the TV unless ur watching to see the big sooky have a bawl
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Col E Wobbles where are you?
PROBLEM is theyre playing the saints who have got the worst culture in AFL history along with the Bulldogs.
Yep and that is why they both drew last week. (Add Collingwood's September mystique of failure along to your statement Ramps).
Could be a 12 goal plus win now. :help
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Time to turn off the TV unless ur watching to see the big sooky have a bawl
Hahaha we have all turned already. As long as we are picking on someone who is feeling like poo lol. :lol :rollin :lol
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Sneider in the first minute of the 3rd quarter had a chance to get the Colliwobbles going but he missed and it sucked out any energy the Saints had. That moment summed up the game for St Kilda. Two goals in 3 quarters ain't gonna win you any game let alone a flag. Didak seals it if it wasn't already. Pies are home. Time to stay off the streets tonight :chuck
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surely there's still some kind of hope... SURELY! this just can't be happening.
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Time to turn off the TV unless ur watching to see the big sooky have a bawl
Is Sooky St Nick out there? He's had sweet all impact today.
Kosi as well doing his best to impersonate Leon Davis in a Grand Final. Mr cement boots.
Only Goddard has played well for the Saints.
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st kilda have failed everyone - they are a club full of losers!
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Time to turn off the TV unless ur watching to see the big sooky have a bawl
Is Sooky St Nick out there? He's had sweet all impact today.
Kosi as well doing his best to impersonate Leon Davis in a Grand Final. Mr cement boots.
Only Goddard has played well for the Saints.
Kosi aint doin a Leon Davis as he at least has got his hands on the ball albeit giving it straight back.
st kilda have failed everyone - they are a club full of losers!
Yep 114 years for 1 flag from a kick off the side of the boot. That is a miserable history for a miserable footy club.
At least we are still 10 times the club they are.
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It has been their lesser likes. Pendlebury and Swan have not been that influential in both GF'S. It has been the Skunks second tier and lesser likes players that have done the bulk of the damage. Take note Dimma, Cameron and Jackson use the draft.
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Time to turn off the TV unless ur watching to see the big sooky have a bawl
Is Sooky St Nick out there? He's had sweet all impact today.
Kosi as well doing his best to impersonate Leon Davis in a Grand Final. Mr cement boots.
Only Goddard has played well for the Saints.
Kosi aint doin a Leon Davis as he at least has got his hands on the ball albeit giving it straight back.
LOL
Okay give Milne the Leon Davis award. His first kick coming late in the 3rd. Cornflakes Thomas was actually right about the little runt lol.
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Malthouse could go back to back with this mob! Geelong and St Kilda - there realistic premiership window has shut IMHO. For Geelong its ok they have 2 flags to show for it. St Kilda got Zip. Western Bulldogs arent real capable of winning either IMHO and Fremantle cant be trusted in finals in Melbourne.
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Malthouse could go back to back with this mob! Geelong and St Kilda - there realistic premiership window has shut IMHO. For Geelong its ok they have 2 flags to show for it. St Kilda got Zip. Western Bulldogs arent real capable of winning either IMHO and Fremantle cant be trusted in finals in Melbourne.
I would not right off Hawthorn if they can get their minds right. They have two kwy forwards who kicked 200 goals between them in 2008. I reiterate the word if...... but yep I agree Ramps could have a situation where the Skunks the Cheats and Essendon are on 16 flags each which then leaves it up to us to respond as a club from about 3 years from now once the rebuild has been done and starts to bear fruit to turn into reality the Benny Gale 3-0-75 statement for us to at least hold on to an on field aura of being a top 4 club rather than hoping to get a home game blockbuster here and there each time the next seasons draw is released.
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Malthouse could go back to back with this mob! Geelong and St Kilda - there realistic premiership window has shut IMHO. For Geelong its ok they have 2 flags to show for it. St Kilda got Zip. Western Bulldogs arent real capable of winning either IMHO and Fremantle cant be trusted in finals in Melbourne.
1 is bad enough...
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Malthouse could go back to back with this mob! Geelong and St Kilda - there realistic premiership window has shut IMHO. For Geelong its ok they have 2 flags to show for it. St Kilda got Zip. Western Bulldogs arent real capable of winning either IMHO and Fremantle cant be trusted in finals in Melbourne.
That would stuff up the Buckley takeover.
:lol
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If we draft well this year that could put us in the van in about 3 years time IMHO. Theres a vacuum beneath Collingwood now. Clubs like ours and Melbourne will be in with a real show down the track. Its all about getting in some extra draft picks now and getting quality kids in this draft.
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To quote Terry Walla$$ in the year of the Dogs.
"I think I'm going to spew up"
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If you want a guranteed job in 9 months, look for a job at centrelink this coming monday.
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Luke Ball was clearly suffering from mixed feelings after the game.
Bottom 6 of the Saints were the weak link last week and they were non-existent today. Surprised Lyon didn't make any unforced changes with guys like Eddy but when you look at their list there wasn't much to come in to make any difference. Having a Replay also spoiled the move of bringing Baker back after a long break. So typical to see a player struggle in the 2nd game back. Three GFs in two years and no flag will haunt this St Kilda group. You can't see them winning a flag so their window is now shut you'd reckon.
This really was a Grand Final about workrate and the new trendy word "structures" as both sides have a lot of average players in their bottom half so both rely on zones and presses to strangle their opposition. Fatigue really hit the Saints early for mine. They just didn't look up for it apart from Goddard. Lead to a more open game today which played into Collingwood's hands. A pretty forgetful GF replay being so one-sided unless of course for Pies' fans.
All the 16 clubs will now sit down over summer and try to come up with ways to overcome Collingwood's forward press just as they did with Hawthorn and their cluster zone after 2008. Let's hope too the Pies repeat the mistake after 1990 where they were satisfied with winning one after such a drought and their list fell away as their old premiership players slowed and retired.
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Im more interested in how we go about the next 10 days. Next 10 days real important IMHO. Can we get some extra picks inside 30 particularly around the 15 to 20 mark. If we can we can bring in more quality kids and we could be well on our way to finally having a list capable of being developed towards winning a flag.
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Im more interested in how we go about the next 10 days. Next 10 days real important IMHO. Can we get some extra picks inside 30 particularly around the 15 to 20 mark. If we can we can bring in more quality kids and we could be well on our way to finally having a list capable of being developed towards winning a flag.
good call ramps, we need 4 of the top 30 or so in the draft.
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Nick Riewoldt will never go from a very good player to a great one.
Difference between him and Carey, Brown as a marking forward was there today I thought. He doesn't have the arrogant strut of those two. That miss was embarrassing but also telling. It was Nick R trying to make an emphatic statement of St Kilda's intent by banging it into the top tier, and he lost his concentration in the spotlight because he is naturally an introvert. When Carey or Brown's team were being smashed I think there players still thought they had the biggest, toughest and best player out there. Not so with Nick.
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Geez the Sainters have some duds in their side.
Kosi, McQualter, Dempster, Eddy, Jones....
I reckon they'll go hard for Tambling.
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Kosi is a sniper... ordinary bloke and an agricultural footballer
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where was the great hope the most on here liked last year, PATTO !! oh please :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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U guys just don't get it. If you want a team to lose as much as I did you should put your hard earned on that team.
I cleaned up today on the pies winning, all of a sudden there win doesn't seem so bad. It still hurts but knowing the wallet is full softens the blow
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Im more interested in how we go about the next 10 days. Next 10 days real important IMHO. Can we get some extra picks inside 30 particularly around the 15 to 20 mark. If we can we can bring in more quality kids and we could be well on our way to finally having a list capable of being developed towards winning a flag.
Yes those pesky finals each year always seem to get in the way of the more important things like trade week and the National draft ;D
Geez the Sainters have some duds in their side.
Kosi, McQualter, Dempster, Eddy, Jones....
I reckon they'll go hard for Tambling.
Problem is the Saints first pick is around 26 even if they were interested in Blingers. It's not so different to Adelaide's compo pick in the late 20s.
For some extra pace the saints could always go for Jordie :lol. Even Jordie couldn't have done any worse than Peake today :o.
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where was the great hope the most on here liked last year, PATTO !! oh please :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Wasn't Patto meant to be insurance at the Saints if they copped injuries and needed another tall forward or ruckman :whistle.
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Geez the Sainters have some duds in their side.
Kosi, McQualter, Dempster, Eddy, Jones....
I reckon they'll go hard for Tambling.
here here
Kosi is a very very average footballer. Honestly how that bloke gets a game is beyond me.
Ill tell you another footballer who is one weak dog and thats Dal Santo.
Whats done is done and we move on but now that the Pies have won i have one word for Milne that low prick...hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
best thing about Pies winning and the only good thing is Milne doesnt get to have a premiership medal around his neck
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Kosi kicked 5 against us in the 2nd last round.
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wasn't kosi playing injured? Anyway I feel sick to my guts those rotten bastards won, it's going to be in the papers for months.
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We can only hope that history repeats and it's another 20 years before we have to suffer it again.
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All the 16 clubs will now sit down over summer and try to come up with ways to overcome Collingwood's forward press just as they did with Hawthorn and their cluster zone after 2008.
This is what really gripes me. It shouldn't be up to the clubs to have to figure out ways to counter Collingwood's negative tactics. Dimwittyou should get off his lazy, fat, corrupt backside and introduce an off-side rule to keep players in their own half of the ground at all times.
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No the AFL should be coming up with a fair bloody fixture so Skumwood dont get to play 18 matches at the MCG.
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No the AFL should be coming up with a fair bloody fixture so Skumwood dont get to play 18 matches at the MCG.
That too!
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All the 16 clubs will now sit down over summer and try to come up with ways to overcome Collingwood's forward press just as they did with Hawthorn and their cluster zone after 2008.
This is what really gripes me. It shouldn't be up to the clubs to have to figure out ways to counter Collingwood's negative tactics. Dimwittyou should get off his lazy, fat, corrupt backside and introduce an off-side rule to keep players in their own half of the ground at all times.
Im sorry RR but I disagree. Malthouse drilled his team beautifully. They know there system and they know how to get out the back running into goal with little pressure. Clubs need to figure out how to stop it.
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Kosi kicked 5 against us in the 2nd last round.
And you've just pointed out why Kosi is an average player Jack :thumbsup
Will kick a bag against lesser/lower teams like the Tigers, Eagles, Bumbling BOmbers
But against the big boys = the good sides (and C'wood are a bloody good side) he goes missing.
He needed to stand up yesterday - he didn't along with a number of others and I think it is sweet :rollin
Can't stand the Saints!!! 137 years = 1 flag sums them up really :thumbsup
I agree with what MT said their bottom 6-10 yesterday again showed they're not up to it and it shines even brighter when their big name players struggle
And one thing...their captain.... People are crictical of Clokes kicking for goal, just like they were of Richo's over the years.. Nick Reiwoldt as a captain needs to kick big goals...yet again yesterday he didn't = SWEET ;D
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All the 16 clubs will now sit down over summer and try to come up with ways to overcome Collingwood's forward press just as they did with Hawthorn and their cluster zone after 2008.
This is what really gripes me. It shouldn't be up to the clubs to have to figure out ways to counter Collingwood's negative tactics. Dimwittyou should get off his lazy, fat, corrupt backside and introduce an off-side rule to keep players in their own half of the ground at all times.
Im sorry RR but I disagree. Malthouse drilled his team beautifully. They know there system and they know how to get out the back running into goal with little pressure. Clubs need to figure out how to stop it.
Interesting article on the AFL site today ( I was looking to see who won the norm smith as i refused to watch the end and presentation :chuck) Malthouse says his defensive structure is based around the roman legions box formation as well as aspects from rommels stategies.
I can see what he means about the box formation and i think dimma may be trying to install something similar.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103603/default.aspx
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Kosi is a sniper... ordinary bloke and an agricultural footballer
He's actually a really nice bloke, not the best player and am shocked that they signed him for another two years, but reckon your comment is well off the mark
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All the 16 clubs will now sit down over summer and try to come up with ways to overcome Collingwood's forward press just as they did with Hawthorn and their cluster zone after 2008.
This is what really gripes me. It shouldn't be up to the clubs to have to figure out ways to counter Collingwood's negative tactics. Dimwittyou should get off his lazy, fat, corrupt backside and introduce an off-side rule to keep players in their own half of the ground at all times.
Im sorry RR but I disagree. Malthouse drilled his team beautifully. They know there system and they know how to get out the back running into goal with little pressure. Clubs need to figure out how to stop it.
But Ramps, aren't you sick and tired of the congestion that passes for modern footy? I am, and I just want to go back to the days of man-on-man, free-flowing high-scoring footy.
I remember the last few times we played Scumwood, including that pre-season game at Visy Park this year, and every time we triedto kick in from a behind, they've sent their whole team down to lock it in. The full-ground press they call it. Honestly, trying to get the ball out of there is like trying to squeeze a fart through a bucket of molasses.
I HATE it, and I wish the AFL had the balls to create some rules to put a stop to it. And as for Malthouse likening it to Roman legionaire formations, and Rommel, well it just shows what a WANKER the bloke is in my book.
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I think Peake wanted collingwood to win
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All the 16 clubs will now sit down over summer and try to come up with ways to overcome Collingwood's forward press just as they did with Hawthorn and their cluster zone after 2008.
This is what really gripes me. It shouldn't be up to the clubs to have to figure out ways to counter Collingwood's negative tactics. Dimwittyou should get off his lazy, fat, corrupt backside and introduce an off-side rule to keep players in their own half of the ground at all times.
Im sorry RR but I disagree. Malthouse drilled his team beautifully. They know there system and they know how to get out the back running into goal with little pressure. Clubs need to figure out how to stop it.
But Ramps, aren't you sick and tired of the congestion that passes for modern footy? I am, and I just want to go back to the days of man-on-man, free-flowing high-scoring footy.
I remember the last few times we played Scumwood, including that pre-season game at Visy Park this year, and every time we triedto kick in from a behind, they've sent their whole team down to lock it in. The full-ground press they call it. Honestly, trying to get the ball out of there is like trying to squeeze a fart through a bucket of molasses.
I HATE it, and I wish the AFL had the balls to create some rules to put a stop to it. And as for Malthouse likening it to Roman legionaire formations, and Rommel, well it just shows what a WANKER the bloke is in my book.
I dont like that Collingwood players along the boundary but lets be honest when they are on song they are terrific at what they do. The challenge is to the rest of the clubs including ours to find a way to beat there system or implement another system of footy that we can do well enough to beat all opponents.
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if the afl change the rules to stop the tatic / full press I will stop following aust. Footy.
The game has been ok 150 odd years stop changig the fcing rules.
All the 16 clubs will now sit down over summer and try to come up with ways to overcome Collingwood's forward press just as they did with Hawthorn and their cluster zone after 2008.
This is what really gripes me. It shouldn't be up to the clubs to have to figure out ways to counter Collingwood's negative tactics. Dimwittyou should get off his lazy, fat, corrupt backside and introduce an off-side rule to keep players in their own half of the ground at all times.
Im sorry RR but I disagree. Malthouse drilled his team beautifully. They know there system and they know how to get out the back running into goal with little pressure. Clubs need to figure out how to stop it.
But Ramps, aren't you sick and tired of the congestion that passes for modern footy? I am, and I just want to go back to the days of man-on-man, free-flowing high-scoring footy.
I remember the last few times we played Scumwood, including that pre-season game at Visy Park this year, and every time we triedto kick in from a behind, they've sent their whole team down to lock it in. The full-ground press they call it. Honestly, trying to get the ball out of there is like trying to squeeze a fart through a bucket of molasses.
I HATE it, and I wish the AFL had the balls to create some rules to put a stop to it. And as for Malthouse likening it to Roman legionaire formations, and Rommel, well it just shows what a WANKER the bloke is in my book.
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Bentleigh - this argument that the game has been okay for 150 years and doesn't need changing works on the assumption that the game hasn't changed in all that time.
But the sad FACT is that the game has changed dramatically in the last ten years alone, and is in fact unrecognizable from the fantastic and unique game that I was once proud to say was the best code in the world.
And I lay the blame squarely at the feet of coaches like Eade and Wallace originally, who started borrowing zone defence tactics from basketball and soccer, and Roos, Lyon and Malthouse more recently who claim to be reading books on the art of war and battle tactics (tossers).
The bottom line is that in their quest to gain a winning edge on the rest of the competition, they have RUINED what was great about our game, and turned it into a low-scoring, ugly, congested mess.
Now if it took soccer tactics to ruin the game, let's use soccer tactics (ie, an off-side rule) to fix it again. And before you trundle out this "leave it alone" line, just stop and think about the amount of times you've heard supporters of all clubs say they're sick and tired of seeing players being forced to kick backwards and sideways going nowhere, while they try to negotiate their way thrugh an endless flood. They're probably the same fans who also say leave the rules alone. Something needs to be done.
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keep at least 2 players( same team ) inside F 50 at any time and problem solved.
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remove the wings 4 less players on the ground, less congestion.
simple really.
dont have to stuff with rules . People go spare at umpires as it is without having them to make sure a certain number of players are in a certain area of the ground.
The defensive aspect of aussie rules was always going to catch up with other sports.
The flip side of it is that when opposition sides manage to crack these zones the game suddenly becomes open, fast, and exiting.
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remove the wings 4 less players on the ground, less congestion.
simple really.
dont have to eff with rules . People go spare at umpires as it is without having them to make sure a certain number of players are in a certain area of the ground.
The defensive aspect of aussie rules was always going to catch up with other sports.
The flip side of it is that when opposition sides manage to crack these zones the game suddenly becomes open, fast, and exiting.
Umpires have enough to concentrate on, with having to get their interpretations wrong so often :) That's why we should have linesmen to police it.
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keep at least 2 players( same team ) inside F 50 at any time and problem solved.
give them bibs and cal the game netball
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keep at least 2 players( same team ) inside F 50 at any time and problem solved.
give them bibs and cal the game netball
Yep, exactly. The zone defence thing is like everything else in our game - cyclic - and if we would just stop taking knee jerk reactions to every single damn shift in tactics and style then the game would evolve naturally and successfully, just like it has done for 150 years.
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keep at least 2 players( same team ) inside F 50 at any time and problem solved.
give them bibs and cal the game netball
Yep, exactly. The zone defence thing is like everything else in our game - cyclic - and if we would just stop taking knee jerk reactions to every single damn shift in tactics and style then the game would evolve naturally and successfully, just like it has done for 150 years.
Oh, here's this "the game has survived for 150 years without being changed" argument again. The game is changing all the time - just not for the better. And where's one shred of evidence of the zone defence being cyclic? Or of the game evolving past it?? We've been stuck with this clogged up garbage for 10 years now, and the only "evolution" is that coaches have become more and more adept at creating even further congestion.
It's people like you and Bentleigh who will ensure that we're stuck with this bastardized version of rugby for all eternity, because you're afraid to try anything new that will give us back our Aussie Rules again.
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Kosi kicked 5 against us in the 2nd last round.
you cant surely be suggesting that Kosi is a good footballer.
He is pathetic Jack. He is the type of footballer that would have die hard Saints fans smashing their heads against the walls. He is crap.
The longer Kosi stays in that forward line the longer the Saints have no chance of winning a flag. He must play ruck any idiot can see that
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Kosi is (rap
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Yep, exactly. The zone defence thing is like everything else in our game - cyclic - and if we would just stop taking knee jerk reactions to every single damn shift in tactics and style then the game would evolve naturally and successfully, just like it has done for 150 years.
Oh, here's this "the game has survived for 150 years without being changed" argument again. The game is changing all the time - just not for the better. And where's one shred of evidence of the zone defence being cyclic? Or of the game evolving past it?? We've been stuck with this clogged up garbage for 10 years now, and the only "evolution" is that coaches have become more and more adept at creating even further congestion.
It's people like you and Bentleigh who will ensure that we're stuck with this bastardized version of rugby for all eternity, because you're afraid to try anything new that will give us back our Aussie Rules again.
Where's one shred of evidence to suggest it is any different to every other cyclic move? Should we have banned handball when Barassi left many teams in his wake by changing the way his team played the game? Should we have banned the drop punt when Jack Dyer brought it into the game and caused the demise of the more aesthetically pleasing drop kick? Should we have banned the vacant forward line when Pagan introduced his "paddock" and set his team apart from the rest? Geelong certainly didn't play the zone defence game that you are moaning about and they were the most successful team of the last 5 years. Good coaches will always look to change the current 'methods' in order to maximise their strengths and gain the tactical edge - that's what cyclical development is all about, that's how our game has evolved in a spectacularly successful fashion for 150 years, and that's why it's the best policy to not have knee-jerk reactions to situations you find yourself unable to deal with or rise above. In the past 10 years there have been 5 grand finals (2 in the past 4 years) with a combined final score in excess of 180 points - hardly a pointer that our game is being "clogged up" when the 2 best teams for the season (and presumably the best proponents of your "garbage" method) can manage such scores. And if you believe that last week's grand final was diminished in any way by 'clogging' then you will never be happy with a game. It was a magnificent spectacle between 2 sides who were tactically sound and well led, tough, courageous and skillful in all the game's facets - a fantastic advertisement and celebration of our game - the best code of football in the world.
Afraid to try anything new? :lol :lol :lol No, I'm not fearful of letting things evolve naturally instead of wetting my pants and stamping my feet because I can't keep up with the big boys.
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All of the things you mentioned, the introduction of handball etc. improved the game at the time, because they made it better as a spectacle. The drop-kick was phased out because it was too unreliable if it was mis-kicked.
Geelong were one of the teams who played good attacking football through the corridor, which is why I was barracking for them in last year's Grand Final over St.Kilda who, like Collingwood and the Swans thrive on bottling up play.
The drawn Grand Final last week yielded a miserly score of 68 apiece. That's not even worthy of a 3/4 time result in my books. What's wrong with wanting to see some goals being kicked???? This aint rugby or soccer we're following theoretically.
And don't point to the scoreline last week. These sort of blowouts are common when one side gets caught out on the rebound spread because they don't run hard enough to subject the opposition to the same sort of congestion they've been battling against. The same sort of thing used to happen to us against Sydney with their negating tactics all the time.
Finally, it's not wetting my pants just because I yearn to see more of the game that I used to love, and less of this rugby crap that everybody's too apathetic to try and change.
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All of the things you mentioned, the introduction of handball etc. improved the game at the time, because they made it better as a spectacle. The drop-kick was phased out because it was too unreliable if it was mis-kicked.
Geelong were one of the teams who played good attacking football through the corridor, which is why I was barracking for them in last year's Grand Final over St.Kilda who, like Collingwood and the Swans thrive on bottling up play.
The drawn Grand Final last week yielded a miserly score of 68 apiece. That's not even worthy of a 3/4 time result in my books. What's wrong with wanting to see some goals being kicked???? This aint rugby or soccer we're following theoretically.
And don't point to the scoreline last week. These sort of blowouts are common when one side gets caught out on the rebound spread because they don't run hard enough to subject the opposition to the same sort of congestion they've been battling against. The same sort of thing used to happen to us against Sydney with their negating tactics all the time.
Finally, it's not wetting my pants just because I yearn to see more of the game that I used to love, and less of this rugby crap that everybody's too apathetic to try and change.
So you would be an advocate of going back to 2 substitutes and no interchange then? After all, it was this improvement to make the game "better as a spectacle" by opening up the scoring that paved the way for flooding and clogged up garbage. You don't want a game like rugby or soccer and I don't want a game like basketball. And facts are on my side when you look back at scoring over the past 100 years - it has hardly changed. I don't like the poorly played spectacle of flooding or zones but it is just a challenge for the opponent to deal with and beat, and Geelong have proved that it can be done with devastating and long term effect. No need for bullsh1t like offside and enforced zones. Leave the game as it is - it's in fine health.
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I'm certainly an advocate of putting a cap on the number of interchanges to -say-80.( Look how Collingwood have blown their match average out to a ridiculous 140-150 which helps them stifle the opposition.)
If this in itself isn't enought to open the game up, then I'd be looking at cutting the number of players on the interchange bench to, say two (it was Sheedy who first pushed to have the bench extended many moons ago.)
Beyond that, perhaps just drop the wings and have four less players on the ground. See, there are ways around it without having to resort to drastic measures like an off-side rule. That might be a last resort.
I just want to see forwards one out with their opponent again. I want to see onballers with flair being able to display their natural skills, without being chased down by a pack of wild dogs. I don't think it's too much to ask.
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I do not buy the argument "high score good, low score bad". Did you not enjoy the 2005 gf?
Some of the worst afl games I has seen are high scoring. Some of the best soccer games low scoring. I have massive respect or Paul roos and the way that team plays football last half half doZen years.
If you do not like the way afl us going pray Richmond start getting coaches and players that will be better at the full court press and more skillfull. if other teams are using roman legion box formations as inspiration Richmond need to relise its a war for 4 quarters on match day and they need the heart and tactics to beat the collingwoods and st kildas.
Kicking the ball backwards to retain possession and full court press to attempt win ball back in forward line is here to stay. The game has been like rugby/netball for a lo time now.
:helpAll of the things you mentioned, the introduction of handball etc. improved the game at the time, because they made it better as a spectacle. The drop-kick was phased out because it was too unreliable if it was mis-kicked.
Geelong were one of the teams who played good attacking football through the corridor, which is why I was barracking for them in last year's Grand Final over St.Kilda who, like Collingwood and the Swans thrive on bottling up play.
The drawn Grand Final last week yielded a miserly score of 68 apiece. That's not even worthy of a 3/4 time result in my books. What's wrong with wanting to see some goals being kicked???? This aint rugby or soccer we're following theoretically.
And don't point to the scoreline last week. These sort of blowouts are common when one side gets caught out on the rebound spread because they don't run hard enough to subject the opposition to the same sort of congestion they've been battling against. The same sort of thing used to happen to us against Sydney with their negating tactics all the time.
Finally, it's not wetting my pants just because I yearn to see more of the game that I used to love, and less of this rugby crap that everybody's too apathetic to try and change.
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Might need to buy some 1970 football videos then
I'm certainly an advocate of putting a cap on the number of interchanges to -say-80.( Look how Collingwood have blown their match average out to a ridiculous 140-150 which helps them stifle the opposition.)
If this in itself isn't enought to open the game up, then I'd be looking at cutting the number of players on the interchange bench to, say two (it was Sheedy who first pushed to have the bench extended many moons ago.)
Beyond that, perhaps just drop the wings and have four less players on the ground. See, there are ways around it without having to resort to drastic measures like an off-side rule. That might be a last resort.
I just want to see forwards one out with their opponent again. I want to see onballers with flair being able to display their natural skills, without being chased down by a pack of wild dogs. I don't think it's too much to ask.
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No, I did not enjoy the 2005 Grand Final. It was a bloody snore-a-thon, and me and my mates spent half the game in the back yard shooting the breeze we were so fed up with the "spectacle" on offer.
If that was your idea of good footy then you're obviously easily pleased. And the AFL is cutting down the number of interchanges next year which is a start. So I'll be putting those 1970 videos on hold. Maybe the public is finally starting to wake up and smell the coffee.
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With Gold Coast making a playing for Cloke, Sheeds and GWS knowing the Pies will have to pay $$$ to keep Cloke has thrown a $1m per season offer out there publicly for Swan. Two things will stop any Collingwood dynasty talk - fewer interchanges and salary cap pressure forcing players to leave. Sheeds would know the later all too well after 2000 at Essendon.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/greater-western-sydney-eyes-dane-swan-with-1m-lure/story-e6frf9jf-1225934567395
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... thrown a $1m per season offer out there publicly for Swan. ...
;D Funny!!! :thumbsup
Make it happen Kev!