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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 06, 2010, 06:39:43 PM
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Mike's releasing his latest top 50 in the next two days. 21-50 tomorrow and then the top 20 on Saturday.
I wonder how many Tigers will make it in there and with Jack as Coleman medallist how high?
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Look out for another Collingwood lovefest :chuck.
If Mike is consistent then Jack should be minimum top 15-20 as the AFL's top goalkicker. Lids and Newy should be the other Tigers in the top 50.
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Look out for another Collingwood lovefest :chuck.
If Mike is consistent then Jack should be minimum top 15-20 as the AFL's top goalkicker. Lids and Newy should be the other Tigers in the top 50.
Martin will def be in it
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1. Judd
2. Swan
3. Pendlebury
4. Thomas
5. Maxwell
The Judd and Collingwod suck job begins. Top 50 is about as interesting and relevant as Hutchy.
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1. Judd
2. Swan
3. Pendlebury
4. Thomas
5. Maxwell
The Judd and Collingwod suck job begins. Top 50 is about as interesting and relevant as Hutchy.
:lol
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Lets face it, we wouldn't have a clue what Sheahan is thinking when he is sitting naked in his bubble bath with Bruce McAvaney, some wine and scouring through pictures to come up with this list...
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:lol
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Mike's top 50 countdown: from 50-21
21. Nick DAL SANTO (St Kilda)
22. Brady RAWLINGS (North Melbourne)
23. Matthew PAVLICH (Fremantle)
24. Harry O'BRIEN (Collingwood)
25. Brett DELEDIO (Richmond)
26. Brent HARVEY (North Melbourne)
27. Darren JOLLY (Collingwood)
28. Jonathan BROWN (Brisbane)
29. James FRAWLEY (Melbourne)
30. Keiren JACK (Sydney)
31. Marc LECRAS (West Coast)
32. Sam FISHER (St Kilda)
33. Matthew SCARLETT (Geelong)
34. Adam GOODES (Sydney)
35. Harry TAYLOR (Geelong)
36. Matthew BOYD (Western Bulldogs)
37. Richard DOUGLAS (Adelaide)
38. Sam MITCHELL (Hawthorn)
39. Ryan GRIFFEN (Western Bulldogs)
40. Steve JOHNSON (Geelong)
41. Barry HALL (Western Bulldogs)
42. Sam GILBERT (St Kilda)
43. Andrew SWALLOW (North Melbourne)
44. Mark JAMAR (Melbourne)
45. Heath GRUNDY (Sydney)
46. Kade SIMPSON (Carlton)
47. Luke BALL (Collingwood)
48. Chris NEWMAN (Richmond)
49. Cyril RIOLI (Hawthorn)
50. Shane MUMFORD (Sydney)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mikes-top-50-countdown-from-50-21/story-e6frf9jf-1225935703446
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:rollin
Riewoldt is surely not Top 20?
Riewoldt is at least 30-50.
Mark Jamar had a better year then Riewoldt?
I don't think so!
Nuff Nuff!
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Hahahahaha Harry O'Brien is better than alot of footballers. :lol :rollin :lol
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:rollin
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Harry O is better than Deledio, Rioli, Le Cras, J. Brown and others besides? well stuff me sideways....Sheahan really does hit the turps before he does this list....
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:rollin
Riewoldt is surely not Top 20?
Riewoldt is at least 30-50.
Mark Jamar had a better year then Riewoldt?
I don't think so!
Nuff Nuff!
I assume you're talking about Nick and not Jack.
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Luke Ball in the best 50 players in the AFL. Give me a break Mike! Slow and can't kick.
He had a reasonable Grand Final replay and that is it!
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:rollin
Riewoldt is surely not Top 20?
Riewoldt is at least 30-50.
Mark Jamar had a better year then Riewoldt?
I don't think so!
Nuff Nuff!
I assume you're talking about Nick and not Jack.
No doubt both will be top 20, and deservedly so.
Jack kicked more goals than any other forward in the competition in the second worst team in the AFL under a fair amount of duress. You cannot say he had an easy ride. Now you may argue that he has not yet proved himself as a footballer, but on form the kid did a fantastic job last year and deserves recognition for a remarkable season.
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Pavlich at 23? :rollin
Top 10 for sure.
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Brady Rawlings at #22...
He may have had a good year, but if Richmond went and offered pick #50 for him in this years draft i'd firebomb punt road.
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harry O :lol
cant believe this sheahan fool gets so much exposure and hype for his top 50's, like hes some kind of guru. Stopped paying any attention to it years ago
Walls and sheahan from the respective rags give us their top 50's like its the oscars lmao
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Jack Riewoldt out of the box
Mike Sheahan
Herald Sun
October 09, 2010
THE first big shock of Mike Sheahan's top 50 AFL players is ... Richmond's gun forward Jack Riewoldt.
Put all the modern stats and sophisticated analysis to one side, one thing doesn't change: teams that kick the most goals win the most games.
That's why there has to be a specialist goalkicker among the top 10, and Riewoldt wins decisively.
He kicked 78 goals from 22 games, with two or more in 20 of them and one bag of 10. That's in a team that averaged goals a game, the lowest in the competition.
I love his hunger for the ball, his leap, his hands and, more recently, his conversion.
He kicked 78.39 (60 per cent efficiency) after 32.27 last year. There's 68 tackles to his name, too. The coach is big on "team" at Punt Rd, and that's fair enough. But Jack is the new Richo, and that's priceless.
LET'S all remember the rules - the October Top 50 is for contributions during the preceding six months. That's it.
Nothing to do with reputations going into the 2010 season, nor what we think players might do next year and beyond.
Simple, really. Yet it is why it's so hard to judge certain players.
Nick Riewoldt, for example. He was No.2 going into the season, but ended up missing 10 of St Kilda's 25 games after being hurt early in the Round 3 fixture against Collingwood.
Effectively, he played 14 games.
While he produced four or five big ones, bottom line is he finished with 39 goals, which didn't get him into the top 20. For the record, he didn't finish top 10 in St Kilda's best-and-fairest, either.
Jimmy Bartel is another. Perhaps the unluckiest player of the lot to miss out.
Yep, has to be.
Bartel was flying until he injured an elbow mid-year. He probably should have missed a game or two, but continued to play and had a flat spot for weeks. One or two too many.
I'm a trifle embarrassed about leaving Jimmy out.
Then there's Adam Cooney. I am a huge Cooney fan, but he still doesn't play up to the full extent of his talent often enough.
He is the most capable player at the Western Bulldogs, yet finished seventh in the club championship.
Cooney at his best can be as damaging as Gary Ablett. We don't see it anywhere near enough.
He kicked nine goals for the season.
That's poor. Nowhere near good enough. He needs to be 25-plus.
My 50 is selected on the basis of players' contributions to their teams over the journey, with a premium on a player's ability to impact the course of a game, to influence a result, to perform on the big stage.
Brendon Goddard and Dale Thomas enhanced their reputations in finals,
Geelong's Harry Taylor and Steve Johnson went the other way, and Stephen Milne's Grand Finals hurt him.
I feel guilty each time I overlook certain players, for example Daniel Cross and Jobe Watson.
I love watching Cross in the battle for the footy. Every contest is life and death. Sadly, though, Crossy can't hurt with his feet. He has played 158 games in his career for 26 goals.
Watson is similarly afflicted. He is brilliant in the crushes, amazingly adept at winning the hot footy and dispatching it creatively by hand.
Yet, Watson's impact on the scoreboard - goals and score assists - totalled 30 for the season. played in a poor team, but Richmond finished near the bottom and Collins, Jake King and Ben all had 25 goals and goal assists, three kicked more goals.
Anyway, as one of Melbourne's great old broadcasters, Ormsby used to say, it's only one opinion.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-out-of-the-box/story-e6frf9jf-1225936250509
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Jack made Mike's top 10; Lids named at 25 and Newy at 48.
Mike's full Top 50:
1. Gary ABLETT (Geelong)
2. Dane SWAN (Collingwood)
3. Brendon GODDARD (St Kilda)
4. Joel SELWOOD (Geelong)
5. Lenny HAYES (St Kilda)
6. Chris JUDD (Carlton)
7. Luke HODGE (Hawthorn)
8. Paul CHAPMAN (Geelong)
9. Dale THOMAS (Collingwood)
10. Jack RIEWOLDT (Richmond)
11. Scott PENDLEBURY (Collingwood)
12. Aaron SANDILANDS (Fremantle)
13. Brian LAKE (Western Bulldogs)
14. Alan DIDAK (Collingwood)
15. Lance FRANKLIN (Hawthorn)
16. Corey ENRIGHT (Geelong)
17. Leigh MONTAGNA (St Kilda)
18. David MUNDY (Fremantle)
19. Brad GREEN (Melbourne)
20. James KELLY (Geelong)
21. Nick DAL SANTO (St Kilda)
22. Brady RAWLINGS (North Melbourne)
23. Matthew PAVLICH (Fremantle)
24. Harry O'BRIEN (Collingwood)
25. Brett DELEDIO (Richmond)
26. Brent HARVEY (North Melbourne)
27. Darren JOLLY (Collingwood)
28. Jonathan BROWN (Brisbane)
29. James FRAWLEY (Melbourne)
30. Keiren JACK (Sydney)
31. Marc LECRAS (West Coast)
32. Sam FISHER (St Kilda)
33. Matthew SCARLETT (Geelong)
34. Adam GOODES (Sydney)
35. Harry TAYLOR (Geelong)
36. Matthew BOYD (Western Bulldogs)
37. Richard DOUGLAS (Adelaide)
38. Sam MITCHELL (Hawthorn)
39. Ryan GRIFFEN (Western Bulldogs)
40. Steve JOHNSON (Geelong)
41. Barry HALL (Western Bulldogs)
42. Sam GILBERT (St Kilda)
43. Andrew SWALLOW (North Melbourne)
44. Mark JAMAR (Melbourne)
45. Heath GRUNDY (Sydney)
46. Kade SIMPSON (Carlton)
47. Luke BALL (Collingwood)
48. Chris NEWMAN (Richmond)
49. Cyril RIOLI (Hawthorn)
50. Shane MUMFORD (Sydney)
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Look out for another Collingwood lovefest :chuck.
If Mike is consistent then Jack should be minimum top 15-20 as the AFL's top goalkicker. Lids and Newy should be the other Tigers in the top 50.
For what its worth, Mike follows Melbourne ;)
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Thomas better than Pendlebury... ::)
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Good to see Lids getting some recognition as Mike has been a big critic of his over the years.
Still hard to take a list seriously that has Dale Thomas at no.9 which is 14 places ahead of Matthew Pavlich. Daisy would be about the 9th guy id worry about if coaching against the pies.
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For what its worth, Mike follows Melbourne ;)
Yep and that explains Frawley at 29 as the 2nd best key defender in the AFL according to Mike ???
Not forgetting Green at 19. He had an excellent year but he's not top 20 ::)
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List is best to be put in a Comic Book