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AFL boss Andrew Demetriou willing to help Shinboners expand to tropical north Queensland
Andrew Hamilton
The Courier-Mail
November 18, 2010
CAIRNS has emerged as a potential semi-permanent AFL venue, with the league vowing to help the embattled Kangaroos find a new second home.
The cash-strapped Kangaroos missed out on an AFL-endorsed bid to play seven home games a season in Hobart and Launceston when the Tasmanian Government opted to renew its association with Hawthorn.
Now, three years after knocking back a $100 million relocation package to move to the Gold Coast, the Kangaroos are once again looking for greener pastures.
AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said the league would help the Kangaroos if they wished to explore playing home games in the tropics.
"We don't steer clubs, they have boards to make policies decisions," he said.
"But if they come to the AFL and ask for assistance, we will do our best to help them.
"We tried to help them out a couple of years ago, but ultimately they have a board that is chartered to decide the direction of their football club."
Cairns will host its first premiership match next season when Richmond play the Suns and Demetriou said government-funded upgrades to Cazaly's Stadium meant more regular fixturing was a distinct possibility - as was the case when AFL football first arrived in Launceston.
"We will have a good look at it," he said.
"It was how Tasmanian footy started. I remember York Park when it had a single grandstand with a great surface but was very cold and wet and windy.
"Now there is a fully covered stand the whole way around the ground. It is a terrific facility and it got to that point because we put more content in there.
"I think Cairns and North Queensland have a real appetite for Australian football and Cazaly's is a really great facility opportunity for us."
Demetriou agreed the failure of the Kangaroos' Tasmanian bid left the club needing to find an alternative region to expand its supporter base.
"The North Melbourne Football Club is obviously seeking another market to broaden its supporter base," he said.
"Hawthorn - with 8000 Tasmanian members out of 50,000 members - is a perfect example of that.
"North Melbourne saw an opportunity and now they will have to go back to the drawing board but it will be a challenge for them because they need to grow to keep pace with the opposition."
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/afl-boss-andrew-demetriou-willing-to-help-shinboners-expand-to-tropical-north-queensland/story-e6frepex-1225955210040
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why is the stuffing AFL helping these gypsies? they spurned their offer, let them survive on their own now, LIKE THEY WANTED! no loss to the comp if they just stuff awff! sick and tired of hearing about this loser club
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why is the effing AFL helping these gypsies? they spurned their offer, let them survive on their own now, LIKE THEY WANTED! no loss to the comp if they just eff awff! sick and tired of hearing about this loser club
The AFL doesnt want another Fitzroy situation
Theyre scared that the few North supporters there are will be lost to AFL forever like many Fitzroy fans were
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why is the effing AFL helping these gypsies? they spurned their offer, let them survive on their own now, LIKE THEY WANTED! no loss to the comp if they just eff awff! sick and tired of hearing about this loser club
The AFL doesnt want another Fitzroy situation
Theyre scared that the few North supporters there are will be lost to AFL forever like many Fitzroy fans were
Unfortunately should have been North instead of fitzroy in the first place, North just dont have the volume of supporters needed to survive outright in Melbourne so they should be given the ultimatem - shunted off forcefully or die. Fitzroy were just shafted
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Personally I don't know what they're worried about, they should have a look at the NFL which has the biggest average crowds of any sport in the world. The franchise owners there are never worried about alienating fans from another city. As the intro of the movie Baseketball said "The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles where there are no lakes. The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil. The Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music. The Raiders moved from Oakland to LA back to Oakland, no-one seemed to notice."
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didnt see this here I just posted the article from the heraldsun about this in view from the outer :banghead
anyways.. every attempt from them to sell games just makes them look even more stupid for not accepting to move to the Gold Coast.
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Personally I don't know what they're worried about, they should have a look at the NFL which has the biggest average crowds of any sport in the world. The franchise owners there are never worried about alienating fans from another city. As the intro of the movie Baseketball said "The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles where there are no lakes. The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil. The Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music. The Raiders moved from Oakland to LA back to Oakland, no-one seemed to notice."
The States is a much much bigger market though, there are lots of cities that would jump at the chance of having a team represent them in the biggest(or close to) sport in the country - no matter where they came from. The market here is almost at full capacity now. Cant get a permanent 3rd team into queensland or GWS and Tassie is off the cards in the short/medium term
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Personally I don't know what they're worried about, they should have a look at the NFL which has the biggest average crowds of any sport in the world. The franchise owners there are never worried about alienating fans from another city. As the intro of the movie Baseketball said "The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles where there are no lakes. The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil. The Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music. The Raiders moved from Oakland to LA back to Oakland, no-one seemed to notice."
The States is a much much bigger market though, there are lots of cities that would jump at the chance of having a team represent them in the biggest(or close to) sport in the country - no matter where they came from. The market here is almost at full capacity now. Cant get a permanent 3rd team into queensland or GWS and Tassie is off the cards in the short/medium term
The market may be bigger in terms of the amount of cities they can have in the competition, however these cities aren't actually that big, their supporters are just fanatical. Helps when you have one national football code aswell.
Most cities with teams in the NFL have populations of only half a million people. That's not that big.
Gold Coast has 600k, Newcastle 540k and Canberra 350-400k, they should have no problem supporting a team if they liked the code enough
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Personally I don't know what they're worried about, they should have a look at the NFL which has the biggest average crowds of any sport in the world.
The States is a much much bigger market though, there are lots of cities that would jump at the chance of having a team represent them in the biggest(or close to) sport in the country - no matter where they came from. The market here is almost at full capacity now. Cant get a permanent 3rd team into queensland or GWS and Tassie is off the cards in the short/medium term
The market may be bigger in terms of the amount of cities they can have in the competition, however these cities aren't actually that big, their supporters are just fanatical. Helps when you have one national football code aswell.
Most cities with teams in the NFL have populations of only half a million people. That's not that big.
Gold Coast has 600k, Newcastle 540k and Canberra 350-400k, they should have no problem supporting a team if they liked the code enough
thats the bottom line though isnt it?
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Newcastle would be pretty tough market to crack, but Gold Coast with all the ex-pats should be fine. Canberra was ripe for the picking a long time ago but the NRL beat it to the punch and the AFL missed out on a bit opportunity.
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Who cares what North does ... because whatever they do whether it be with the AFL's assistance or not they will fail because that is what the North Melbourne Footy Club stands for "Stuffing Up"
Any organisation that turns down $100 mil clearly hasn't got a clue and deserves the miserable existence that they have carried around for their entire petty existence and will continue to do so for however long they are around
:thumbsup
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Afl bloody pricks. Ditto north
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why is the effing AFL helping these gypsies? they spurned their offer, let them survive on their own now, LIKE THEY WANTED! no loss to the comp if they just eff awff! sick and tired of hearing about this loser club
The AFL doesnt want another Fitzroy situation
Theyre scared that the few North supporters there are will be lost to AFL forever like many Fitzroy fans were
Unfortunately should have been North instead of fitzroy in the first place, North just dont have the volume of supporters needed to survive outright in Melbourne so they should be given the ultimatem - shunted off forcefully or die. Fitzroy were just shafted
Agree with both of your comments TM. :thumbsup
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Who cares what North does ... because whatever they do whether it be with the AFL's assistance or not they will fail because that is what the North Melbourne Footy Club stands for "Stuffing Up"
Any organisation that turns down $100 mil clearly hasn't got a clue and deserves the miserable existence that they have carried around for their entire petty existence and will continue to do so for however long they are around
:thumbsup
North does not stand for stuffing up in my opinion.
North IMHO opinion stands for no fans no support no sponsors no character no identity no nothing just talking about pathetic antequated mythical Shinboner Spirit. Destitute club that has been on life support for years. Time to take them out of the coma and euthanase them.
I hate losing to Carlton and Collingwood but because North are pathetic and all of the aforementioned I hate losing to them as it is a dent to your character, prestige and identity just so 10 off beats can have their 5 minutes in the sun. They can play on the moon and they will have very few supporting them. If Wayne Carey could not get the members on board then nobody will. Fk off Norf.
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afl may look to play even more fixtures there, doubt it would involve taking our ONE game away though ::)
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Who cares what North does ... because whatever they do whether it be with the AFL's assistance or not they will fail because that is what the North Melbourne Footy Club stands for "Stuffing Up"
Any organisation that turns down $100 mil clearly hasn't got a clue and deserves the miserable existence that they have carried around for their entire petty existence and will continue to do so for however long they are around
:thumbsup
North does not stand for stuffing up in my opinion.
North IMHO opinion stands for no fans no support no sponsors no character no identity no nothing just talking about pathetic antequated mythical Shinboner Spirit. Destitute club that has been on life support for years. Time to take them out of the coma and euthanase them.
I hate losing to Carlton and Collingwood but because North are pathetic and all of the aforementioned I hate losing to them as it is a dent to your character, prestige and identity just so 10 off beats can have their 5 minutes in the sun. They can play on the moon and they will have very few supporting them. If Wayne Carey could not get the members on board then nobody will. Fk off Norf.
Agree Tucker
But I still reckon they stand for stuffing up on top of what you've said
You get the chance of having $100mil handed to you on a platter and you knock it back because you think you are somehow going to become fashionable or successful then you've stuffed up big time and that's what they;ve done
Now they are trying desperately to wrangle some sort of deal soewehre (actually anywhere) that will save them. They couldn't even get the bloody Tassie govt (who seem a bit clueless themselves) to take accept them
Gawd I hate them ;D
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North can have Cairns. It's not a long term deal for us (better not be) so if we lose it then ... meh. If our plans to get rid of our debt works then the only time I will want to see Cairns again will be when we are playing away against the Far North Kangaroos. ;D
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North can do what they like so long as they think they have the fan base and means. :lol
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why is the effing AFL helping these gypsies? they spurned their offer, let them survive on their own now, LIKE THEY WANTED! no loss to the comp if they just eff awff! sick and tired of hearing about this loser club
The AFL doesnt want another Fitzroy situation
Theyre scared that the few North supporters there are will be lost to AFL forever like many Fitzroy fans were
Unfortunately should have been North instead of fitzroy in the first place, North just dont have the volume of supporters needed to survive outright in Melbourne so they should be given the ultimatem - shunted off forcefully or die. Fitzroy were just shafted
If north had have been reasonable back in 96 or so they would have been able to ensure the survival of themselves and Fitzroy.
Instead, they asked for a 60-man list and to be called the North Melbourne-Fitzroy Kangaroos instead of the Fitzroy Kangaroos or North Melbourne Lions.
There was a real chance of teams with compatible geography, demographics and colours linking up and ensuring the survival of both and North wanted their cake and to eat it too.
Serves them right, I have no sympathy, I just would rather that the AFL set them some clear deadlines and ultimatums to get their house in order.
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North to play in Ballarat according to the biggest loser in our state John Brumby.
Man is it just me or is this guy bradbury oops sorry i meant brumby a tool of the highest order. i cant stand the bloke
City crime rate, mandatory sentencing, stamp duty, Train fiasco and this loser wants to help the gypsy's find a home. What a joke!!
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/kangaoos-may-play-home-and-away-matches-in-ballarat/story-e6frf9jf-1225960093284
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lol bloody North - they are neither here nor there, PATHETIC!!!
Call me cynical but the biggest drug raid in history being coordinated in election week leaves me a tad sceptical ...and then having the police come out and refuse to release crime stats until after the election confirms in my mind what Brumby is.... Reckon this north gypsie thing was done to shore up some regional votes
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You Vics keep voting him in. Reckon you get what you deserve! :P
Now, if only we could work out how to get rid of Anna. :help
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Who cares what North does ... because whatever they do whether it be with the AFL's assistance or not they will fail because that is what the North Melbourne Footy Club stands for "Stuffing Up"
Any organisation that turns down $100 mil clearly hasn't got a clue and deserves the miserable existence that they have carried around for their entire petty existence and will continue to do so for however long they are around
:thumbsup
North does not stand for stuffing up in my opinion.
North IMHO opinion stands for no fans no support no sponsors no character no identity no nothing just talking about pathetic antequated mythical Shinboner Spirit. Destitute club that has been on life support for years. Time to take them out of the coma and euthanase them.
I hate losing to Carlton and Collingwood but because North are pathetic and all of the aforementioned I hate losing to them as it is a dent to your character, prestige and identity just so 10 off beats can have their 5 minutes in the sun. They can play on the moon and they will have very few supporting them. If Wayne Carey could not get the members on board then nobody will. Fk off Norf.
Are you trying to say that North are your second favorite team, Tuckerbag? :rollin
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The AFL are treading far too gently here. The North move should have been done regardless of the boards vein attempt to resurrect the club on the wave of short term, unsustainable passion. Moving North, well, north would have been the best thing for the club, competition and even the supporters. Now they are the anchor holding the competition down. The AFL stuffed up again by not forcing Hawthorn to move out of Tasmania and allow North to go there. The Tasmania Kangaroos would have been a great solution for all parties in the long term yet now the AFL is left pimping North out yet again around Australia.
The Kangaroos will never attract the supporters it needs to compete with the rest of the Melbourne based clubs but at the same time, despite all the facts and figures you can throw at them, will never admit this. The AFL need to show some, and find a new place where they can find some new untapped supporters because until they do, the Kangaroos will suck more money out of the league than any of the expansion team every will in the long run.
Stripes
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You Vics keep voting him in. Reckon you get what you deserve! :P
Now, if only we could work out how to get rid of Anna. :help
i never voted brumby in Smokey in fact no one did he fell over the line, Bradbury styles.
Brumby is on his own. He is an A grade tosser with poor decisions made for our state.
TM your right about the timing of these raids etc etc but in Labours defence they all play these games but helping North out has got to be the biggest joke ive heard this year
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Not a good strategy from Brumby, even if he gets all Kangaroo supporters to vote for him, that's only an extra 45 votes! :lol
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I get the impression Norf think a "sell out" home game is one that's been sold to another part of the country :wallywink
Anyway, it's the VFL's own fault for admitting poo clubs like Norf, St. Kilda and the Flogdogs in the first place. All 3 should be playing in a lower league.
Get rid of them, introduce a Tassie side and we're back to a 16 club comp.
You know it makes sense.
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Not a good strategy from Brumby, even if he gets all Kangaroo supporters to vote for him, that's only an extra 45 votes! :lol
:lol :thumbsup
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Coalition refuses to commit to Kangaroos' Ballarat bid
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/coalition-refuses-to-commit-to-kangaroos-ballarat-bid-20101130-18fcw.html
The North nomads will be looking for another new home again :sleep
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The North nomads will be looking for another new home again :sleep
Punt Rd?
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The North nomads will be looking for another new home again :sleep
Punt Rd?
;D
it might be best that they play at a bus shelter, reckon they might struggle to fill that!
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Greg Denham saying that the AFL was going to pay Hawthorn $7 million to pull out of Tassie so the Kangaroos could play down there!! :o
With us looking to play down there, I wonder if the AFL promised us anything to stop our push?
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Why don't we just call them the "Bass Straight Kangaroos" and be done with them once and for all.
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Why don't we just call them the "Bass Straight Kangaroos" and be done with them once and for all.
Given they removed the "North Melbourne" and just became the Kangaroos there for a while, there would be a better case to change the Kangaroos to the Gypsies
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North can have Cairns. It's not a long term deal for us (better not be) so if we lose it then ... meh. If our plans to get rid of our debt works then the only time I will want to see Cairns again will be when we are playing away against the Far North Kangaroos. ;D
Yip. This is one battle we might be happy to lose in a year or two.
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Put them in a sack, tie some bricks to it, and throw them off a pier.
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Put them in a sack, tie some bricks to it, and throw them off a pier.
Sounds like a method you have some confidence in GG - tried it before maybe? :whistle
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North can have Cairns. It's not a long term deal for us (better not be) so if we lose it then ... meh. If our plans to get rid of our debt works then the only time I will want to see Cairns again will be when we are playing away against the Far North Kangaroos. ;D
Yip. This is one battle we might be happy to lose in a year or two.
Considering the plan is to play all home games in melbourne, there is no battle to lose.
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it might be best that they play at a bus shelter, reckon they might struggle to fill that!
Nope horny teenagers have filled that space.
As for Bass Strait are they still drilling for oil out there?
As for North being gypsies maybe they could play out of Transylvania.
Throwing them off the pier would be futile they'd still wash up on some deserted beach and call it Shinboner Spirit. Just pull the pin on them simple as that. They don't deserve euthanasing.