One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: RFC_Official on January 31, 2011, 12:20:26 PM
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For those who may have seen a few months ago, we held a fan development night where we asked for input on what you guys wanted from us.
Now we're holding another one, but with a bit of a twist.
If you're interested in coming along it will be:
Thursday Feb 10, Punt Road, apx 6pm-8pm
We need 10 people from here to come along, the first 10 people who can commit to the time please reply here and once we lock you in we'll be in touch shortly after that.
Cheers
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I'm in! Let me know what details you need from me?
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I'll bite mr RFC-O
Count me in ;D
Any chance of a free look at the new ME Bank Digs :thumbsup
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That's two!
Need a few more, can you guys both email me: digital@richmondfc.com.au with your "real" names
Cheers
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My son and i would like to be counted in.
If it works that way..
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I'm in.
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Sounds Good,
If you could put me (Camboon) and Stripes down that would be great - ( two people)
Cheers
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My son and i would like to be counted in.
If it works that way..
Can you email me if you haven't already? digital@richmondfc.com.au
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I'm in.
Can you email me if you haven't already? digital@richmondfc.com.au
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Sounds Good,
If you could put me (Camboon) and Stripes down that would be great - ( two people)
Cheers
Can you email me if you haven't already? digital@richmondfc.com.au
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I would love to be counted.
Thanks
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I would love to be counted.
Thanks
Can you email him if you haven't already? lol!
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Love all the first time posters using our forum to get a seat on the bus.
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Love all the first time posters using our forum to get a seat on the bus.
ALL? There was 1 lol
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I would love to be counted.
Thanks
Can you email him if you haven't already? lol!
:lol
Love all the first time posters using our forum to get a seat on the bus.
Gerkin Greg will take care of it. I'd go along but I don't want to run into any uncles or old whores.
Regards,
Big Sexy Davey.
:gotigers
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Love all the first time posters using our forum to get a seat on the bus.
With all due respect I dont believe that these 2 guys with one post should be in the OER contingent. If someone from OER who has been around a fair while wants to go they should go instead of these two first time posters. As for me, I cannot attend but I think that we should ensure that OERs group of 10 is consistent of people who have been here a while, rather than people who couldnt get on the boat at the other sites and whose loyalties are to those sites and not OER. :gotigers
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sounds like a political broadcast from the third reich
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Love all the first time posters using our forum to get a seat on the bus.
ALL? There was 1 lol
2 out of the first 6 as I saw it Jacosh. Swiz26 and Toppstar.
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Love all the first time posters using our forum to get a seat on the bus.
With all due respect I dont believe that these 2 guys with one post should be in the OER contingent. If someone from OER who has been around a fair while wants to go they should go instead of these two first time posters. As for me, I cannot attend but I think that we should ensure that OERs group of 10 is consistent of people who have been here a while, rather than people who couldnt get on the boat at the other sites and whose loyalties are to those sites and not OER. :gotigers
Totally agree Ramps.
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Fair call 10 flags although is it an invitation to OER loyalists or a vehicle to get to our members?
I'm thinking rfc allegience and interest is to the membership of rfc which is also fair enough.
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It may have been my first post on this website, however i have been a daily reader of this website as well as other tiger forums for a few years now. I just don't feel the need to post my thoughts or opinions all that often. But i certainly enjoy reading the opinions of those who do post on this forum as well as other one's.
My allegience and only concern is to the RFC. This fan night is about trying to make the RFC a better club and that is all i'm interested in, so i don't see why the amount of posts a person has on this forum is relevant. I love this club as much as anyone and want to see it succeed!
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It may have been my first post on this website, however i have been a daily reader of this website as well as other tiger forums for a few years now. I just don't feel the need to post my thoughts or opinions all that often. But i certainly enjoy reading the opinions of those who do post on this forum as well as other one's.
My allegience and only concern is to the RFC. This fan night is about trying to make the RFC a better club and that is all i'm interested in, so i don't see why the amount of posts a person has on this forum is relevant. I love this club as much as anyone and want to see it succeed!
Thats fair enough but my view is that if we get 10 people who have been here a fair while they should go instead of someone who has just arrived. If we only have 8 then I wouldnt have any problem if you went, I just like to see that people who have been in and contributed to this online community get a chance to go - If they want to of course.
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It's a richmond fan night ramps, not an OER snobbery night. How many posts someone has made on this, or any other forum is irrelevant to their worth as a supporter.
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It's a richmond fan night ramps, not an OER snobbery night.
Agree totally. Who cares if they have had 1 post or 100,000?
Welcome Swiz26. Hope to see you on the boards more often.
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It's a richmond fan night ramps, not an OER snobbery night.
Agree totally. Who cares if they have had 1 post or 100,000?
Welcome Swiz26. Hope to see you on the boards more often.
Toppstar registered in June 2009 so has some claim to longevity.
Swiz registered yesterday. Not sure what that means.
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Toppstar registered in June 2009 so has some claim to longevity.
Swiz registered yesterday. Not sure what that means.
Not much assuming both are genuine Tiger fans.
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Toppstar registered in June 2009 so has some claim to longevity.
Swiz registered yesterday. Not sure what that means.
Not much assuming both are genuine Tiger fans.
Given this will be only available to RFC members then yep they'll have to be genuine Tiger fans. Welcome aboard OER toppstar and Swiz.
I know it's late notice but if there's still a spare spot free RFCO then I wouldn't mind tagging along. I've sent you an email.
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My allegience and only concern is to the RFC.
Wow, someone without a family. Can you adopt me please? And pay my airfare to come to this function. :lol
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Toppstar registered in June 2009 so has some claim to longevity.
Swiz registered yesterday. Not sure what that means.
Not much assuming both are genuine Tiger fans.
Given this will be only available to RFC members then yep they'll have to be genuine Tiger fans. Welcome aboard OER toppstar and Swiz.
I know it's late notice but if there's still a spare spot free RFCO then I wouldn't mind tagging along. I've sent you an email.
This year will be my 15th consecutive year as a member so i'm as genuine as anyone at the function!
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Its a bit of a blight when supporters feel they have to justify how genuine they are as a supporter.
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Toppstar registered in June 2009 so has some claim to longevity.
Swiz registered yesterday. Not sure what that means.
Not much assuming both are genuine Tiger fans.
Given this will be only available to RFC members then yep they'll have to be genuine Tiger fans. Welcome aboard OER toppstar and Swiz.
I know it's late notice but if there's still a spare spot free RFCO then I wouldn't mind tagging along. I've sent you an email.
This year will be my 15th consecutive year as a member so i'm as genuine as anyone at the function!
You don't need to justify your support mate to anyone. You wouldn't have even joined the forum if you weren't a passionate Tiger fan.
Great to have you posting. Hopefully you'll join in the crazy banter on here more now.
I'll see you at the night!
Stripes
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Toppstar registered in June 2009 so has some claim to longevity.
Swiz registered yesterday. Not sure what that means.
Not much assuming both are genuine Tiger fans.
Given this will be only available to RFC members then yep they'll have to be genuine Tiger fans. Welcome aboard OER toppstar and Swiz.
I know it's late notice but if there's still a spare spot free RFCO then I wouldn't mind tagging along. I've sent you an email.
This year will be my 15th consecutive year as a member so i'm as genuine as anyone at the function!
Good for you and congratulations on your support, the club needs every supporter it can get.
Still doesn't change my opinion on preference for our (OER's) spots being given to forum members who have a history of posting. The whole idea of the night apparently, is to listen to and engage with the supporters and I think those best placed to put their ideas forward will be those that tend to interact and discuss things with other posters on the forums, not those that join up and silently read the posts without ever speaking up on anything. I'm glad that you're a member of the club and a member of our forum but not one post in > 18 months tells me that there is a fair chance you will sit in on the discussions without having any input - defeating the whole purpose of the night in the first place. I'm probably wrong and I hope I am but I know from my perspective that I want the club to get 10 posters from each represented forum that will join in, not sit on the sidelines.
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While i dont agree with the sentiment, from your last sentence I understand where you are coming from smokey.
Possibly just as important would be to ensure a wide range of age groups attend, but anything else rather that a first in best dressed would create a poo f!ght and probably perceptions of elitism and cronyism.
For some reason i now have an image in my head of a huge punch on at this night, drawn down the lines of what forum they represent. Must be lack of sleep.
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Toppstar registered in June 2009 so has some claim to longevity.
Swiz registered yesterday. Not sure what that means.
Not much assuming both are genuine Tiger fans.
Given this will be only available to RFC members then yep they'll have to be genuine Tiger fans. Welcome aboard OER toppstar and Swiz.
I know it's late notice but if there's still a spare spot free RFCO then I wouldn't mind tagging along. I've sent you an email.
This year will be my 15th consecutive year as a member so i'm as genuine as anyone at the function!
Good for you and congratulations on your support, the club needs every supporter it can get.
Still doesn't change my opinion on preference for our (OER's) spots being given to forum members who have a history of posting. The whole idea of the night apparently, is to listen to and engage with the supporters and I think those best placed to put their ideas forward will be those that tend to interact and discuss things with other posters on the forums, not those that join up and silently read the posts without ever speaking up on anything. I'm glad that you're a member of the club and a member of our forum but not one post in > 18 months tells me that there is a fair chance you will sit in on the discussions without having any input - defeating the whole purpose of the night in the first place. I'm probably wrong and I hope I am but I know from my perspective that I want the club to get 10 posters from each represented forum that will join in, not sit on the sidelines.
Would you be happy if Daniel was part of the fan night?
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Would you be happy if Daniel was part of the fan night?
Who?
:lol Just kidding.
Absolutely I would. We will never all see things the way others do but no-one doubts our common passion for wanting the club to succeed. Every supporter that attends and involves themselves will increase the benefit to the club that the club is seeking. Whether that opinion or input conflicts with my own is not the point. But attending just for attending's sake will be a lost opportunity for the club and that would disappoint me. Hence my opinion on who should get a chance to attend.
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Remember also, that this input and benefit will be a 2-way street. The club has gone ahead in leaps and bounds recently in it's attempts to connect with it's supporters and the 'flow back' of information to us from a night like this will be huge if those that attend are the types that actively participate in the forums they are seeking numbers from. The silent lurkers among our forum members cannot be relied on to reciprocate this flow of information back to us - another lost opportunity.
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Feedback from those that attend is a monty, for sure.
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If it means anything, we like you all :thumbsup
And I still need a few more, so if you want to come along, email me tomorrow digital@richmondfc.com.au anyone who can make it next Thursday at 6pm
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I'm probably wrong
Probably. ;D
Still I get your point. Hopefully all attendees will speak their mind.
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Good for you and congratulations on your support, the club needs every supporter it can get.
Still doesn't change my opinion on preference for our (OER's) spots being given to forum members who have a history of posting. The whole idea of the night apparently, is to listen to and engage with the supporters and I think those best placed to put their ideas forward will be those that tend to interact and discuss things with other posters on the forums, not those that join up and silently read the posts without ever speaking up on anything. I'm glad that you're a member of the club and a member of our forum but not one post in > 18 months tells me that there is a fair chance you will sit in on the discussions without having any input - defeating the whole purpose of the night in the first place. I'm probably wrong and I hope I am but I know from my perspective that I want the club to get 10 posters from each represented forum that will join in, not sit on the sidelines.
OK - I can see where you are coming from Smokey. Fair point.
So what have I exactly got myself in for?
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Would you be happy if Daniel was part of the fan night?
Who?
:lol Just kidding.
Absolutely I would. We will never all see things the way others do but no-one doubts our common passion for wanting the club to succeed. Every supporter that attends and involves themselves will increase the benefit to the club that the club is seeking. Whether that opinion or input conflicts with my own is not the point. But attending just for attending's sake will be a lost opportunity for the club and that would disappoint me. Hence my opinion on who should get a chance to attend.
Fair enough Smokey and interesting logic - didn't really think about it from that perspective.
It is a "feedback" session so you would like to think that those who turn up are attending on the basis that they have an opinion.
Loads of people jump onto the forums like this to read the "reports" whether it is newspaper or fans - training sessions, match reports etc as opposed to the opinion part of it.
I don't think that being registered on a forum instantly means you must post regularly - or post at all.
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Feedback from those that attend is a monty, for sure.
We may be forced to abide by the cone of silence ;D
(http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/images/reviews/103/1218767150_4.jpg)
We haven't been told what's happening on the night :shh :whistle :inquisition
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If it means anything, we like you all :thumbsup
And I still need a few more, so if you want to come along, email me tomorrow digital@richmondfc.com.au anyone who can make it next Thursday at 6pm
Bump.
We have 9 going from OER so there's room for more. A chance for those who are so vocal on here during the footy season after losses ;) to go into the inner sanctum of Punt Rd Oval and speak and listen to the club for a couple of hours.
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email sent
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waiting to see what the "twist" is.
Do they want DNA samples to mix with Richos and maybe a host mother to breed a few superstar players? :help
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::) :sleep
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We know what you are but what are we?
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Strange !
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waiting to see what the "twist" is.
Could be any of a few things.....
Is it another session on continually improving contact and connection with supporters/members via social media?
Maybe a tour of the new redevelopment? ..... hint hint RFCO!!! ;)
Maybe a sneak preview of the debt demolition/future fund plans Benny Gale mentioned late last year?
Or maybe we'll get to stop Punt Rd peak-hour traffic and do the caterpilla over cars for 2 hours :wallywink
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gotta be last one, :yep
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Or maybe we'll get to stop Punt Rd peak-hour traffic and do the caterpilla over cars for 2 hours :wallywink
:lol
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waiting to see what the "twist" is.
Or maybe we'll get to stop Punt Rd peak-hour traffic and do the caterpilla over cars for 2 hours :wallywink
Mine would probably be closer to a salted slug, but willing to give it a shot ;D
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I'm heading off to this now. Interesting to see what we talk about tonight.
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It was good presentation by Benny Gale and the other guys tonight, they seem to have a long term genuine plan to improve the club!
Benny had a saying which made a lot of sense " right here - right now" which suggested that the club is not looking back at our mistakes but putting energy into doing now so we are successful in the future.
Sure they would like donations from a range of sources / ideas but there was also a real belief that if we increase our membership and supporters in general we will improve our finances greatly.
The new facility is going to be fantastic - no other club has a better position than us, we can use / hire the ground / function rooms in the future for a huge amount of things.
I will leave it to some of the others to add but it was good to see that the club is actually talking to its members.
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It was good presentation by Benny Gale and the other guys tonight, they seem to have a long term genuine plan to improve the club!
Benny had a saying which made a lot of sense " right here - right now" which suggested that the club is not looking back at our mistakes but putting energy into doing now so we are successful in the future.
Sure they would like donations from a range of sources / ideas but there was also a real belief that if we increase our membership and supporters in general we will improve our finances greatly.
The new facility is going to be fantastic - no other club has a better position than us, we can use / hire the ground / function rooms in the future for a huge amount of things.
I will leave it to some of the others to add but it was good to see that the club is actually talking to its members.
So "they seem to have a long term genuine plan". Pity the members expected to pay for it are not told what it is.
Not looking back at mistakes means we are likely to repeat them.
The idea of hiring out the ground and facilities was one of the reasons why we got the debt in the first place - oh right let's not look back at mistakes.
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LOL - guess its better then curling up into the fetal position and doing nothing but blame those before us for all our problems without working on a solution - maybe we should have a public flogging. :lol
Anyway - life doesnt come with a rewind button
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It was good presentation by Benny Gale and the other guys tonight, they seem to have a long term genuine plan to improve the club!
Benny had a saying which made a lot of sense " right here - right now" which suggested that the club is not looking back at our mistakes but putting energy into doing now so we are successful in the future.
Sure they would like donations from a range of sources / ideas but there was also a real belief that if we increase our membership and supporters in general we will improve our finances greatly.
The new facility is going to be fantastic - no other club has a better position than us, we can use / hire the ground / function rooms in the future for a huge amount of things.
I will leave it to some of the others to add but it was good to see that the club is actually talking to its members.
So "they seem to have a long term genuine plan". Pity the members expected to pay for it are not told what it is.
Not looking back at mistakes means we are likely to repeat them.
The idea of hiring out the ground and facilities was one of the reasons why we got the debt in the first place - oh right let's not look back at mistakes.
The crux of the push is to bring us up from being an average, honest toiler to a leader. Benny was big on stating that the Collingwood sets the bench mark for money invested into coaching, facilities, development etc and it is no coincidence that they have been there abouts for almost a decade now. It is on the back of this sustained success that their attendance figure have gradually grown dragging their membership, sponsorship, revenue etc along with it. We have not played in consecutive finals series since the 70s!!
This call to arms is about bringing us back up to a financial position where we can finally spend a comparitive amount as the more powerful financial clubs on the football department so we get the best out of our players. Benny also was very keen on the idea of having our own seconds team again using Collingwood as a model. Collingwood had over 7 Rookie players playing in their premiership side all of which they were able to put the game and development time into at their VFL side.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that it was the hiring or use of Punt Road that drove up our debt. This doesn't make sense to me. Have you got any evidence/articles on this? I thought allowing clubs such as Storm to use the venue for significant money would be a good thing as long as it doesn't impede on Richmond training/functions, isn't it? ???
I think it is a noble cause and while the idea of forking over additional funds after already buying memberships, joing coterie groups etc seems a little too much, I can see the purpose and see the motivation. I'll be donating (not anything crazy mind you) because I want to see my club at the top of the ladder and top of the balcony holding the cup aloft. I don't wat us to be another Western Bulldogs or Saints who were lamost there but just didn't have it.
I don't want Collingwood to be the benchmark, I want us to be... :gotigers
Stripes
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So "they seem to have a long term genuine plan". Pity the members expected to pay for it are not told what it is.
Not looking back at mistakes means we are likely to repeat them.
The idea of hiring out the ground and facilities was one of the reasons why we got the debt in the first place - oh right let's not look back at mistakes.
The crux of the push is to bring us up from being an average, honest toiler to a leader. Benny was big on stating that the Collingwood sets the bench mark for money invested into coaching, facilities, development etc and it is no coincidence that they have been there abouts for almost a decade now. It is on the back of this sustained success that their attendance figure have gradually grown dragging their membership, sponsorship, revenue etc along with it. We have not played in consecutive finals series since the 70s!!
This call to arms is about bringing us back up to a financial position where we can finally spend a comparitive amount as the more powerful financial clubs on the football department so we get the best out of our players. Benny also was very keen on the idea of having our own seconds team again using Collingwood as a model. Collingwood had over 7 Rookie players playing in their premiership side all of which they were able to put the game and development time into at their VFL side.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that it was the hiring or use of Punt Road that drove up our debt. This doesn't make sense to me. Have you got any evidence/articles on this? I thought allowing clubs such as Storm to use the venue for significant money would be a good thing as long as it doesn't impede on Richmond training/functions, isn't it? ???
I think it is a noble cause and while the idea of forking over additional funds after already buying memberships, joing coterie groups etc seems a little too much, I can see the purpose and see the motivation. I'll be donating (not anything crazy mind you) because I want to see my club at the top of the ladder and top of the balcony holding the cup aloft. I don't wat us to be another Western Bulldogs or Saints who were lamost there but just didn't have it.
I don't want Collingwood to be the benchmark, I want us to be... :gotigers
Stripes
Great post Stripes. :clapping
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Great reports. Thanks guys.
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I'm not sure where you got the idea that it was the hiring or use of Punt Road that drove up our debt. This doesn't make sense to me. Have you got any evidence/articles on this? I thought allowing clubs such as Storm to use the venue for significant money would be a good thing as long as it doesn't impede on Richmond training/functions, isn't it? ???
I think it is a noble cause and while the idea of forking over additional funds after already buying memberships, joing coterie groups etc seems a little too much, I can see the purpose and see the motivation. I'll be donating (not anything crazy mind you) because I want to see my club at the top of the ladder and top of the balcony holding the cup aloft. I don't wat us to be another Western Bulldogs or Saints who were lamost there but just didn't have it.
Stripes
Where I got the idea of hiring out Punt Road driving up debt?
Ian Campbell was hired as CEO. He announced Richmond would make money from hiring out Punt Road and announced the company in charge.
He also announced outsourcing of coteries to Craig Kelly's company. Both these deals were then cancelled and Campbell was replaced by Wright.
The area where debt went thru the roof was a general holdall of debts to employees and suppliers. None detailed.
It is my belief that the payout involved in cancelling these contracts (Punt Road, Coteries, Campbell) was the main cause of our high debt.
Am I sure? No, because the board has never explained where the money went.
I agree that the only quick way to fix the problems is via donations and will be doing it myself, however I worry
a) the board has never explained what caused the debt
b) what processes have been put in place to stop a repeat
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First of all thanks to RFCO for the opportunity to go and for Benny Gale to speak to us and answer our questions. Benny went through many things so I'll probably forget things and think of them later on.
Tonight was designed to give us a first look at the Fighting Tiger Fund but circumstances such as scoring front and back pages in the Herald-Sun meant the club decided to go public 24 hours earlier. The ticketmaster link to donate will only be used today and the club will switch to IMG. The club will be sending out info (what's on the net) to members on Monday.
The timeframe while not fixed is pretty much over 12 months with the main focus on the next 2 months leading up to the March 17 gala function (cost $280) where the club is hopeful that wealthy supporters/benefactors will bring in the big donations. From the questions it was mentioned that in non-for-profit fundraisers about 20% comes from the average folk so the fundraising will need to be all incompassing. The club felt that going to the members first was right because the club has survived and will succeed on the passion and support of the members/supporters (he admitted that support and loyalty came with little in return from the team). Later on in the year there'll be a thank you party for those who donate which will probably generate more money and then it'll tie back into next year's membership campaign where there'll be a box to tick if you want to donate (again). We'll probably have a final thank you gala (generating more money) just before the start of the 2012 season.
As yet they are still deciding how to acknowledge donators. It all depends on the scale of donations at the gala night on March 17. Possibly some acknowledgement will exist in the Social Club.
This idea of passion Benny traced back to NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue who is 20 years turned the NFL from level with NHL, NBA and MLB in America to the biggest thing in town. Tagliabue said the key to the success was passion.
Benny spoke of us spreading the word (across social media) and the motivation behind this and it doesn't matter if supporters donate $25, $50, $75 or $100. He just wants us to unite behind this idea to succeed. We're not asking for help from supporters; we need the help to compete with the successful clubs. We're sick of being mediocre. We want to win that next premiership. When we were spending $140k I think on recruiting, Collingwood was spending $900k. Their success and financial power was built up gradually to where they are now not overnight.
Someone asked about additional revenue avenues? The money raised will enable us to hire more people whose job it is to generate more revenue.
The 500k supporters is based on the Morgan Poll. A couple of people disputed the figure and the club doesn't have a record or contact details of many of these supporters (if we did we would contact them) but Benny said it's something we can go by and spruik to potential sponsors as our potential reach.
Benny also went through some figures if we could wipe out the debt. If we had 55k members, 50k average attendance, 22 million tv audience and the sponsorship that these figures would bring we'd make $5-6 million per annum profit; if it's 50k, 46k avg. attendance, 16 million tv audience then it's $3-4 million; if it 45k members, 40k avg. attendance, and 12 million tv audience then it's $1-2 million. So shows how much of a difference success on-field and off makes.
No word on the final major co-sponsor. Benny just said it shouldn't be too far away.
We want our own VFL side so we can control the development of our players and don't have guys playing in the Coburg seconds. There's also a brand benefit as well.
Benny repeated that we want to be able to spend 100% of the salary to secure our best players now and build up a war-chest to go out and get a Chris Judd type. At the moment we are paying 92.5% of the cap which Benny said so we should given we finished 15th.
Family Day can't be at Punt Rd as it's a construction site. It'll be a Craigieburn next year as well as the ground will be realigned at the end of this season. The cricketers will be kicked off in two months time. The realignment to Docklands size is a bit different to what we discussed here. The width of the ground will go from the edge of new building to the fence along Punt Rd (a 1.5m gain). The realigned oval will also be a fraction longer. The surface will be levelled off with a laser and lifted a touch.
The realignment will also mean the players will have to continue to train at places like Bulleen next preseason as well.
The redevelopment is 6 weeks behind schedule due to all the rain we've had.
RFCO then spoke about social media and the RFC website. He said the leaking of draftees won't happen again (MT ducks his head as RFCO talks about it :lol ). Attracting traffic back to the RFC website including via forums like OER helps with attracting sponsors. People at the fan night congratulated RFCO and media relations boss Simon Matthews for the large improvement in connecting with supporters over the past 3-4 months.
There was more and sorry if it's all about the place or if it's not 100% accurate but I was typing and recalling at the same time. Cheers!
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Forgot to add something important. Benny's motto is "right here right now" (hello fat boy slim). Our focus is only on the now and what was done is basically done and really no one singularly is to blame. He admitted in the past the club was not united and that because our latent support is so large we as a club fell for the quick fix and she'll be alright attitude. Now we have a united club with everyone on the same page moving in the one direction. However the legacy of the debt is too big a problem for the club alone to handle and we need me and you the supporters and members to help the club to not only match the top rich clubs but to become the best and become the leader. Other clubs would envy our potential grow but right here right now that's a long way off (despite pleasing improvements Benny saw in 2010). We need the collective Richmond family's help now whether that's donating yourself, becoming a member if you aren't or encouraging someone you know to become a member. It all goes towards the final tally.
I believe we are planning to have some tally 'thermometer' on the website and possibly on the outside of Punt Rd Oval so people can follow the progress. It won't be for a few weeks though until we have some amount of money to show off.
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Another thing I forgot.....
Benny Gale said once we no longer need the cash to play home games interstate they will be dropped. The Darwin deal is signed to 2012 and I think Cairns is the same.
Reason for playing interstate:
A game against the Gold Coast would be scheduled at Docklands and they have no supporters and it's likely our own supporters won't turn up either or at least not in numbers to make a profit. So it comes down to either losing $120k at Docklands or making $400k in Cairns. The choice was then clear cut in those terms.
This discussion then lead to the talk of having on and off field muscle to bring the fans through the gates and larger tv audience hence sponsor friendly fixture to generate more clear revenue for the club I mentioned above.
If we had 55k members, 50k average attendance, 22 million tv audience and the sponsorship that these figures would bring we'd make $5-6 million per annum profit (from football); if it's 50k, 46k avg. attendance, 16 million tv audience then it's $3-4 million; if it 45k members, 40k avg. attendance, and 12 million tv audience then it's $1-2 million. So shows how much of a difference success on-field and off makes.
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This is ending up like a home shopping ad .... "but wait there's more" lol
Benny Gale emphasised the distinction between this Fund and the Jack Dyer Foundation. The JDF is strictly for capital (building) improvements such as the David Mandie building between the Jack Dyer stand and the new building whereas this Fund is to used to maximise the capacity of the footy department.
One question asked of Benny Gale was on what will the money be used on that's in excess of the what is needed to pay off the $4.5m debt. Basically it's to be used to improve our recruiting in terms of more manpower (scouts) on the ground as well towards accelerating the development of our young players once they arrive at Richmond. That means more development coaches so we can put more hours into the kids. Benny mentioned that Freo had 3 development coaches last year so it's no surprise their young players improved out of sight. It's like a teacher at school educating kids. It's about having more contact hours so they can learn. Benny also said we need to improve our technology used for development. We are far behind other clubs in terms of software and equipment.
Another question from the floor mentioned they heard a number of Tiger supporters saying they were going to spend $200 at the Tiger Den instead of making say donation. The person asked which is better financially for the Club - a $200 merchandise purchase at Tiger Den or a $100 donation? From memory Gale said they work out to be roughly the same as there's a 50% cost to the merchandise. Having said that he was happy either way as the Club got the money. Another crowd member reminded everyone that buying merchandise at places like Rebel Sports means the club gets diddly squat in return (about 1%). So if you want ot buy merchandise remember to buy it directly through the Club at the Tiger Den.
Simon our club media supremo mentioned that thanks to the efforts of RFCO we have gone from 15th into the top 8 in the league for social media such as facebook/twitter over the past few months. However for a club with a big following we are still well short of where we should be which is a top 4 clubs. Fremantle for instance still has more people of facebook following them than us. RFCO's objective is for us to have 60k following the Richmond page on facebook and 10k people following on twitter.
As far as the RFC website as I said they want to attract more traffic which encourages sponsors to jump on board. They plan to have things like best 22s where fans can vote for players, more live chats with staff (such as Gale and our membership head honcho near the start of the season so you can ask any questions about membership) plus more Roar Vision clips such as a prematch show on Friday starring Richo. They are hoping Nathan Brown will join him as well (batman and robin may be back). IIRC RFCO said even out of footy season the RFC website is 3rd for traffic.
Another attendee asked if the club had any plans to have a forum on the RFC site. RFCO said no as it then would have to be moderated and they want the RFC site to be independent of fan forums. Simon added that comments on stories will be allowed and as long as they don't contain swearing, abuse or any defamatory remarks then the club will publish them - both good and critical. The club sees critical comments as a chance to improve what it does.
Finally (I hope) RFCO showed around the 2011 guernsey with Bingle on the back to see how the green looked on Y&B. He also passed around the new supporters gear - jacket with sponsors on it (which looked very good) and a grey hoodie with the Tiger is stirring logo.
ps. for those without a credit card, when the info about the FTF arrives next week in the post, it'll contain options so you can pay by cash or cheque as well. The ticketmaster page was a mess and cumbersome so the donation page has been given to IMG to handle from today onwards IIRC.
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MT
Any mention of a new sponsor?
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MT
Any mention of a new sponsor?
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Already answered by MT:
No word on the final major co-sponsor. Benny just said it shouldn't be too far away.
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MT
Any mention of a new sponsor?
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Already answered by MT:
No word on the final major co-sponsor. Benny just said it shouldn't be too far away.
Thanks, I should have read MT's thesis more carefully
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A very comprehensive report MT.
That must have taken a while. Appreciated. :thumbsup
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Fantastic report MT. I don't think you missed anything 9other than the quality of the food and service ;)).
Well done.
Stripes
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MT great report, it reminded me of your old training reports that attracted me to OER in the first place.
Thank you and much appreciated.
C
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Top report MT :cheers
You left out the steak knives
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thanks MT (and others) great report :gotigers
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Fantastic report MT. I don't think you missed anything 9other than the quality of the food and service ;)).
I had already eaten so I didn't try the multitude of sandwiches on offer but yep you can't knock free drinks :thumbsup
MT great report, it reminded me of your old training reports that attracted me to OER in the first place.
Ta Con. Yep I wish I could get to training now far more often. Just too busy at the moment unfortunately.
Thanks, I should have read MT's thesis more carefully
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Forgot to add something important.
Top report MT!