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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mat073 on February 06, 2011, 04:44:43 PM
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For me being beaten by Carlton is a little like Australia losing to England in the Ashes.It leaves you with a horrible feeling in the pit of your stomach.
Do we remember round 7 2005 ? We smashed the Blues 151-66. Since that marvelous afternoon, Carlton has won 7 out of the next 10 (including the last 5 games straight.)
Why are they laughing at us over there at Carlton ?
Going into the 2009 season Mike Sheehan had trouble separating Richmond & Carlton and was predicting a renewed rivalry.
I am no expert when it comes to Carlton...however it is my theory that we continuously underestimate their midfield while always over estimating ours.
They also seem to have a far higher skill level than us...eg they can hit a target from 20 m.
Anyone else have any theories why our recent record against the Scum is so poor ?
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It doesn't even compare to losing the Ashes. I hate this far worse and im a cricket man.
I personally think once we get over the line with this new team, we will start to win more than we lose.
Its not just the Blues, its North, Pies, Cats, Saints. They all have the wood on us.
Its got nothing to do with their midfield, we still got beaten by a Blues team without Judd. We just have to believe we can win and we will.
To be honest i don't think the first game of the year helps us being a young team. Wish they took that away from us.
I don't see how they will get even close to a flag this year the Blues i dont rate them at all.
Tagg Murphy and Simpson that over rated hack, Waite and the game is ours. Problem is we let Spuds like Scotland get 40 possy's.
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It doesn't even compare to losing the Ashes. I hate this far worse and im a cricket man.
I personally think once we get over the line with this new team, we will start to win more than we lose.
Its not just the Blues, its North, Pies, Cats, Saints. They all have the wood on us.
Its got nothing to do with their midfield, we still got beaten by a Blues team without Judd. We just have to believe we can win and we will.
To be honest i don't think the first game of the year helps us being a young team. Wish they took that away from us.I don't see how they will get even close to a flag this year the Blues i dont rate them at all.
Tagg Murphy and Simpson that over rated hack, Waite and the game is ours. Problem is we let Spuds like Scotland get 40 possy's.
Well said daniel :thumbsup
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Well when you lose your 6 most experiences players and a handfull of promising players don't go to the next level then a cleanout results and you will struggle for a couple of years while the 25 players you recruited get 20-30 games into them. That's the reason we have lost our last 5 games against them. We'll catch them again very soon. Maybe we'll beat them Round 1 8)
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Up until now they have beaten us because they have been more skilfull,bigger,stronger,and better organised..i stress UNTIL NOW.
The tiger is stirring
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There's a couple of other things I've noticed too.
(1) Carlton likes to play a very direct,free-flowing and high-scoring style of footy. Their style doesn't necessarily work against sides that are adept at clamping down the contest (ie, Collingwood and St.Kilda), but unfortunately we've had no answer for it.
We still dither around on the back foot, chipping around and going nowhere against them, while they just go bang bang through the corridor and tear open massive holes in our defence, creating a deluge of scoring opportunities.
(2) We don't seem to be able to stop their crumbers like Betts, Yarran and Gartlett, who just seem to hoover up the spillages from their key forwards.
Both of these things are extremely frustrating to watch play out over and over.
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Other teams like Geelong, Sydney & St Kilda have had the wood on us. I don't see that Carlton have.
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Other teams like Geelong, Sydney & St Kilda have had the wood on us. I don't see that Carlton have.
Yeah I know Mr Magic that there are other teams have Really had the wood on us such as the Saints.I believe they have won about 11 in a row now.
For some reason I have made my peace with that but the fact that Carlton has won the past five really upsets me :'(
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Carlton don't have the wood on us :chuck.
If there is a side that's had the wood on us it's ADELAIDE. Carlton god forbid.
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Up until now they have beaten us because they have been more skilfull,bigger,stronger,and better organised..i stress UNTIL NOW.
The tiger is stirring
That in bold pretty much sums it up. Especially size-wise we look far lighter and shorter than they do with their many 6' 2"ers although that's true for us against most sides :-\. The Blues are at least 2-3 years ahead of us in development sadly and we've just got to suck it up until the wheel turns in a few years. They are stronger and more experienced across the lines than us. If we are to turn it around sooner it'll have to start in the midfield so we aren't blown away early so the game is over by halfway through the second quarter. Waite is one who has killed us off a wing over the past two years :scream. Grabbing the lead early on at least puts the opposition under some scoreboard pressure so their confidence doesn't grow and they can't start pulling out the party tricks. It's bad enough being flogged by them lately without having to sit and watch the flukey soccer goals from any angle :chuck.
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Y'know, perhaps we have something to thank those scum for?
If they had not of flogged us in 2009 and shattered our whole season we may have done enough to keep wallace his job and the club continue down that seemingly directionless path we have been on for the last decade.
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Y'know, perhaps we have something to thank those scum for?
If they had not of flogged us in 2009 and shattered our whole season we may have done enough to keep wallace his job and the club continue down that seemingly directionless path we have been on for the last decade.
Nice glass half full there al. :thumbsup
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Y'know, perhaps we have something to thank those scum for?
If they had not of flogged us in 2009 and shattered our whole season we may have done enough to keep wallace his job and the club continue down that seemingly directionless path we have been on for the last decade.
so true
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Y'know, perhaps we have something to thank those scum for?
If they had not of flogged us in 2009 and shattered our whole season we may have done enough to keep wallace his job and the club continue down that seemingly directionless path we have been on for the last decade.
I like your thinking there al. Nothing like a little humiliation to jolt an organisation into reality.
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I can't stand the Carlton Skumbags! I think the pain is worse because it comes at the end of a long preseason drought where hopes build and expectations are hard to contain. Add a big crowd and media hype and you get a big fall every year. :banghead
I just can't stand the Bluebaggers because they are cheats. They have the players they have through raping the system and buying their way through it.
It is the midfield battle that we have always lost in the past but, as with every year, I have high hopes that may be arrested this year. While they have added Gibbs to the middle we have two new mature aged bodies in the mix (Bachar & Grigg), two far more experienced and fitter younger stars (Cotchin & Martin) and a solid, pacy, experienced campaigner who could finally be injury free (Foley). I think the dynamics will suit us far more than in the past but my only worry is the ruck matchups - Warnock is a monster (another $ recruit) and he could have the greatest influence over the stoppages than any midfielder.
Always an exciting buildup but I think after years of pain, it's only fair if we snag this years game and come away from the game excited too! :thumbsup
Stripes
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Y'know, perhaps we have something to thank those scum for?
If they had not of flogged us in 2009 and shattered our whole season we may have done enough to keep wallace his job and the club continue down that seemingly directionless path we have been on for the last decade.
Decade?? More like three decades. :banghead
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We still dither around on the back foot, chipping around and going nowhere against them, while they just go bang bang through the corridor and tear open massive holes in our defence, creating a deluge of scoring opportunities.
Aaahhhh Yes, the Mark Chaffey rule..... such Fond memories.
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OK last ten years Carlton have won two thirds of the matches played with us. For me that's too many let alone for that filthy footy club or any club. Furthermore since the 1982 GF they have been right there to grind us into the dirt or get some favourable win to either keep us down or forge ahead of us for the most part.
All I hope is that at some point in time in the future when our team develops we can not only square the ledger against these pr1cks but grind them into the dirt like the filth that they are.
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FORMER Richmond coach Terry Wallace says Carlton's aggressive list management strategy means the side has only two seasons until it passes its peak.
The Blues start the season needing a top-four finish for coach Brett Ratten to shore up his position.
But Wallace said the list did not have enough quality to win that many games.
He said the decision to give away early picks for Chris Judd, Robert Warnock and Brock McLean had shortened the Blues' premiership window dramatically.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/terry-wallace-doubts-carltons-quality/story-e6frf9jf-1226002425159
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So pencil in Carlton for a couple of flags in the next few years.
What would Terry know... ::)
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I can't stand the Carlton Skumbags! I think the pain is worse because it comes at the end of a long preseason drought where hopes build and expectations are hard to contain. Add a big crowd and media hype and you get a big fall every year. :banghead
I just can't stand the Bluebaggers because they are cheats. They have the players they have through raping the system and buying their way through it.
It is the midfield battle that we have always lost in the past but, as with every year, I have high hopes that may be arrested this year. While they have added Gibbs to the middle we have two new mature aged bodies in the mix (Bachar & Grigg), two far more experienced and fitter younger stars (Cotchin & Martin) and a solid, pacy, experienced campaigner who could finally be injury free (Foley). I think the dynamics will suit us far more than in the past but my only worry is the ruck matchups - Warnock is a monster (another $ recruit) and he could have the greatest influence over the stoppages than any midfielder.
Always an exciting buildup but I think after years of pain, it's only fair if we snag this years game and come away from the game excited too! :thumbsup
Stripes
I agree totally. And to top it off Grigg MUST star any game he plays against them.
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Tom Derrickx is going to take p1ss in Warnock's mouth and jam his scone up Gibbs' puckered little cauliflower date. Don't underestimate the force of Tom Derrickx, he owns a ute and has had sex in the back of it at least twice.