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Title: Richmond's other forward target bulks up (afl)
Post by: one-eyed on March 02, 2011, 03:32:11 PM
Richmond's other forward target bulks up
By Nat Edwards
Wed 02 Mar, 2011


RICHMOND will look to share the goal-scoring load in 2011 to take the pressure off forward Jack Riewoldt, with versatile tall Tyrone Vickery to partner the Coleman medallist in a two-pronged attack.

Riewoldt was a revelation for the Tigers up forward last year kicking 78 goals and stamping himself as one of the best contested marks in the game.

Understandably, he was Richmond's No.1 forward target with the young Tigers hitting him up 189 times, while their next two common targets up forward were Andrew Collins, who has since been traded to Carlton, and Jayden Post (targeted 18 times each).

The new interchange rules will allow Vickery to spend more time in attack this season as well as pinch-hitting in the ruck, a role he played as a junior.

With Riewoldt set to receive a lot more attention from the opposition this season, Vickery says that will allow him play as another viable target in attack.

"We all realise Jack's talent so he's going to draw the ball. We think teams are going to be dropping numbers off and that's going to open up other opportunities for other forwards," Vickery told afl.com.au.

"Jack's pretty unselfish and he realises there are going to be times when we're not going to kick him the ball because he's got too many guys dropping on to him and that will hopefully free up some of the other forward-line players."

Coach Damien Hardwick was very aware his side's structure was built around Riewoldt at full-forward and decided towards the end of last season that Vickery could be a solution to the problem.

After playing 14 of the first 16 games for Richmond, Vickery was dropped to the VFL to begin the transition towards playing in attack.

"My form had sort of tapered off a little bit and Andrew Browne had certainly had a good year and deserved a shot at AFL level," Vickery said.

"There were a few reasons but Damien sort of said to me that I'd have to go back and play as a forward in the VFL for a bit because that's what I'd be doing this year, so it was good to have a couple of games in the VFL as a forward to get that first taste before pre-season this year."

Since then the 20-year-old has spent all of the off-season training with the forwards with assistant coach Danny Daly instrumental in his move into the forward line.

"Danny's been great. He's really good with his knowledge and being able to pull up footage to help me improve.

"I've spent the whole pre-season training with the forward line which took a while to get use to but it's certainly paid off especially in the last month."

His hard work was recently rewarded when he kicked five goals against Port Adelaide in his club's NAB Challenge match in Alice Springs.

The 200cm ruckman/forward weighs in at 95kgs, adding an extra three to his frame since last year and hopes to reach his ultimate weight of 100kgs, which will definitely benefit all aspects of his game.

The Tigers will field an almost full-strength side when they head to Shepparton on Friday night for their NAB Challenge match against Hawthorn.

Captain Chris Newman, Brett Deledio, Daniel Connors and Shane Tuck will come into the line-up, while Coleman medallist Jack Riewoldt will be rested for another week as he recovers from a knee injury.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/108655/default.aspx
Title: Re: Richmond's other forward target bulks up (afl)
Post by: tiger till i die on March 02, 2011, 08:30:51 PM
Richmond's other forward target bulks up
By Nat Edwards
Wed 02 Mar, 2011


RICHMOND will look to share the goal-scoring load in 2011 to take the pressure off forward Jack Riewoldt, with versatile tall Tyrone Vickery to partner the Coleman medallist in a two-pronged attack.

Riewoldt was a revelation for the Tigers up forward last year kicking 78 goals and stamping himself as one of the best contested marks in the game.

Understandably, he was Richmond's No.1 forward target with the young Tigers hitting him up 189 times, while their next two common targets up forward were Andrew Collins, who has since been traded to Carlton, and Jayden Post (targeted 18 times each).

The new interchange rules will allow Vickery to spend more time in attack this season as well as pinch-hitting in the ruck, a role he played as a junior.

With Riewoldt set to receive a lot more attention from the opposition this season, Vickery says that will allow him play as another viable target in attack.

"We all realise Jack's talent so he's going to draw the ball. We think teams are going to be dropping numbers off and that's going to open up other opportunities for other forwards," Vickery told afl.com.au.

"Jack's pretty unselfish and he realises there are going to be times when we're not going to kick him the ball because he's got too many guys dropping on to him and that will hopefully free up some of the other forward-line players."

Coach Damien Hardwick was very aware his side's structure was built around Riewoldt at full-forward and decided towards the end of last season that Vickery could be a solution to the problem.

After playing 14 of the first 16 games for Richmond, Vickery was dropped to the VFL to begin the transition towards playing in attack.

"My form had sort of tapered off a little bit and Andrew Browne had certainly had a good year and deserved a shot at AFL level," Vickery said.

"There were a few reasons but Damien sort of said to me that I'd have to go back and play as a forward in the VFL for a bit because that's what I'd be doing this year, so it was good to have a couple of games in the VFL as a forward to get that first taste before pre-season this year."

Since then the 20-year-old has spent all of the off-season training with the forwards with assistant coach Danny Daly instrumental in his move into the forward line.

"Danny's been great. He's really good with his knowledge and being able to pull up footage to help me improve.

"I've spent the whole pre-season training with the forward line which took a while to get use to but it's certainly paid off especially in the last month."

His hard work was recently rewarded when he kicked five goals against Port Adelaide in his club's NAB Challenge match in Alice Springs.

The 200cm ruckman/forward weighs in at 95kgs, adding an extra three to his frame since last year and hopes to reach his ultimate weight of 100kgs, which will definitely benefit all aspects of his game.

The Tigers will field an almost full-strength side when they head to Shepparton on Friday night for their NAB Challenge match against Hawthorn.

Captain Chris Newman, Brett Deledio, Daniel Connors and Shane Tuck will come into the line-up, while Coleman medallist Jack Riewoldt will be rested for another week as he recovers from a knee injury.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/108655/default.aspx

right now i see vickerys 5 goals against port was lucky... he will need to do it 5 more times in the AFL season to get me onboard
Title: Re: Richmond's other forward target bulks up (afl)
Post by: Stripes on March 02, 2011, 08:33:55 PM
God Dimma impresses me. He really knows how to get the best out of his players. Vickery was tapering off and losing confidence as a 2nd ruck in the 1st so was going to be dropped anyhow but rather than just drop the bloke and crush his confidence further Dimma made it a positive for both him and Browne.  :thumbsup He first saw what the team needed, saw what Vickery needed and made the call. He did a very similar thing with Morton when he first arrived too.

Great to see a coach who has such a talent for development and positive mental growth. He really has the players playing for him.  :gotigers

Stripes
Title: Re: Richmond's other forward target bulks up (afl)
Post by: tiga on March 02, 2011, 08:55:57 PM
God Dimma impresses me. He really knows how to get the best out of his players. Vickery was tapering off and losing confidence as a 2nd ruck in the 1st so was going to be dropped anyhow but rather than just drop the bloke and crush his confidence further Dimma made it a positive for both him and Browne.  :thumbsup He first saw what the team needed, saw what Vickery needed and made the call. He did a very similar thing with Morton when he first arrived too.

Great to see a coach who has such a talent for development and positive mental growth. He really has the players playing for him.  :gotigers

Stripes
I agree Stripes. Dimma has excellent player management skills and he never makes a player feel like they are banished when being sent to Coburg for a stint. He always impresses upon them that there is light at the end of the tunnel and that team changes are always a part of the master plan. this keeps them hungry and enthusiastic about improving their skills.
Title: Re: Richmond's other forward target bulks up (afl)
Post by: the claw on March 02, 2011, 09:00:21 PM
so where does this leave post taylor and griffiths.
post played only 7 games last yr and went thru the season  with a hand injury.to me he is infinately a better forward  prospect because he meets one important criteria hes good in the air.

tyrones form was so bad he was to be dropped. of course a ruckman would get a chance if vickery did get dropped. he has shown so little in the ruck that the club were forced to try him elsewhere.in fact the club got it so wrong he should not have gotten so many games with his form and should have spent  significantly more time at coburg where he belonged.

now hes to play forward if his form continues as last yr i hope they dont wait 14 games before sending him back to coburg.
Title: Re: Richmond's other forward target bulks up (afl)
Post by: Mr Magic on March 02, 2011, 10:43:21 PM
Early days but TV has always been a good contested mark.
With the extra mass he might be starting to exert an influence.
Sure hope so.
Title: Re: Richmond's other forward target bulks up (afl)
Post by: Rodgerramjet on March 02, 2011, 10:53:44 PM
One bag of five doesn't make a carreer, lets not get to carried away with one good performance, alot of water has to go under the bridge yet. But good on him for what he did on friday night.
Title: Re: Richmond's other forward target bulks up (afl)
Post by: the claw on March 02, 2011, 11:17:44 PM
Early days but TV has always been a good contested mark.
With the extra mass he might be starting to exert an influence.
Sure hope so.
i have to be honest but i have hardly seen an example of it in his two seasons to date.

this will likely be my last comment on the kid for awhile, as i dont want to be seen as writing him off. i have concerns  he does have talent but imo he needs deserves more time.imo post and griffiths are both pysically more ready than him imo.
Title: Re: Richmond's other forward target bulks up (afl)
Post by: Smokey on March 03, 2011, 08:08:17 AM
Early days but TV has always been a good contested mark.
With the extra mass he might be starting to exert an influence.
Sure hope so.

i have to be honest but i have hardly seen an example of it in his two seasons to date.


Agree.  I am not getting carried away with last Friday either.  It was good that he showed something but I have hardly seen anything in him yet to make me get excited.  Especially not for a top draft pick.  I'm not writing him off but I'm certainly not on his bandwagon yet.  Let's hope that this season is where he grows into his body and claims his spot in our best 22.

Title: Re: Richmond's other forward target bulks up (afl)
Post by: wayne on March 03, 2011, 08:58:08 AM
25 goals for the year would be good. Keep the graph going up.
Title: Re: Richmond's other forward target bulks up (afl)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 03, 2011, 09:33:57 AM
why can't reiwoldt, griffiths, vickery, Taylor play in the same forward line? 



so where does this leave post taylor and griffiths.
post played only 7 games last yr and went thru the season  with a hand injury.to me he is infinately a better forward  prospect because he meets one important criteria hes good in the air.

tyrones form was so bad he was to be dropped. of course a ruckman would get a chance if vickery did get dropped. he has shown so little in the ruck that the club were forced to try him elsewhere.in fact the club got it so wrong he should not have gotten so many games with his form and should have spent  significantly more time at coburg where he belonged.

now hes to play forward if his form continues as last yr i hope they dont wait 14 games before sending him back to coburg.
Title: Re: Richmond's other forward target bulks up (afl)
Post by: Infamy on March 03, 2011, 10:16:54 AM
why can't reiwoldt, griffiths, vickery, Taylor play in the same forward line?
I think they can, especially if Vickery is spending some time in the ruck. Rotate Vickery through the forward pocket like Spida Everitt used to play and Taylor as a HFF. Would want a genuine crumber in the other FP plus a goal kicking midfielder on the other HFF for balance.