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Title: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: one-eyed on March 07, 2011, 03:48:06 AM
Greg Denham in today's Australian.....

Towering centre half-forward Ben Griffiths has yet to start contact training following post-season surgery on both shoulders and may not be ready to resume at the elite level until early May. The teenager played five games in his debut season but was injured in round 15 last year.

Defender Kelvin Moore remains in doubt for round one.

He has not played a practice match since damaging his hip last month.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/riewoldt-finally-ready-to-resume/story-e6frg7mf-1226016762863
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 07, 2011, 06:05:11 AM
May?

Eff me
 :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 07, 2011, 06:57:17 AM
Actually it's good news re Griffiths

Means they are taking it slowly, building up his strength in his shoulders and not rushing him back - works for me

 
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 07, 2011, 08:08:15 AM
yeah real good re: Griffiths. Robbie Tarrant mark 2

Im more worried about Moore. Geez going into Rd 1 with Mcguane as our premier FB then we are definately screwed
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: Penelope on March 07, 2011, 09:13:15 AM
Actually it's good news re Griffiths

Means they are taking it slowly, building up his strength in his shoulders and not rushing him back - works for me

 
yep.  :yep
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 07, 2011, 09:26:59 AM
Actually it's good news re Griffiths

Means they are taking it slowly, building up his strength in his shoulders and not rushing him back - works for me

 

doesnt work for me, I was told he will be right to go ROUND 1 :banghead
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: Mr Magic on March 07, 2011, 09:27:52 AM
Very worried about Griffiths shoulders. This does absolutely nothing to allay concerns.
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 07, 2011, 09:40:26 AM
doesnt work for me, I was told he will be right to go ROUND 1 :banghead

 :gobdrop :gobdrop looks like you were fed dud info jack  ;)  :rollin :rollin

It works for me because I never expected him to play any NAB Cup/Challenge stuff because of what I was told  ;) ;D

Very worried about Griffiths shoulders. This does absolutely nothing to allay concerns.

See Mr Magic I see it the other way.... easiest thing to do is throw him out there when the strength in the shoulder isn't  right, he cops a knock and it pops again and we all jump up and down and say he's stuffed his shoulder again. Cautious approach is what needed here as we are talking about a 19yo kid not a fully developed 24-25 yo bloke

Shoulder reco's are tough ones. I know someone who had one and they told me that like a knee it can take considerable time to get over it; up to 12 months to get the strength right and then your confidence back. All depends on the type of reco in that in is determined by how "tight" the muscles in the joint were stapled/stitched back into the socket

Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: Penelope on March 07, 2011, 10:25:53 AM
Actually it's good news re Griffiths

Means they are taking it slowly, building up his strength in his shoulders and not rushing him back - works for me

 

doesnt work for me, I was told he will be right to go ROUND 1 :banghead

..so because you were told he would be ready for one then he should play regardless?  :banghead
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: JVT on March 07, 2011, 10:41:38 AM
Wasn't it stated long ago that he was back into contact training? . . . Anyways, it is a shame he wont be ready sooner but at least they are being cautious! Hopefully he can play out the rest of the season when he does return  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: Stripes on March 07, 2011, 11:25:57 AM
Makes Vickery's current form all the more important. Anyone heard anything on Post? Miller may find himself in the 22 afterall with all our tall forwards falling away... :o
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: tony_montana on March 07, 2011, 11:43:51 AM
As long as he can play 12-15 games in a row whether it be for coburg or seniors.
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: wayne on March 07, 2011, 11:47:56 AM
Makes Vickery's current form all the more important. Anyone heard anything on Post? Miller may find himself in the 22 afterall with all our tall forwards falling away... :o

There is a Coburg practice match thread on BF. Post played.
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: Mr Magic on March 07, 2011, 12:33:43 PM


See Mr Magic I see it the other way.... easiest thing to do is throw him out there when the strength in the shoulder isn't  right, he cops a knock and it pops again and we all jump up and down and say he's stuffed his shoulder again. Cautious approach is what needed here as we are talking about a 19yo kid not a fully developed 24-25 yo bloke

Shoulder reco's are tough ones. I know someone who had one and they told me that like a knee it can take considerable time to get over it; up to 12 months to get the strength right and then your confidence back. All depends on the type of reco in that in is determined by how "tight" the muscles in the joint were stapled/stitched back into the socket

Think you misunderstand me Will.
I have no issue with them taking a cautious approach.
However it still doesn't fill me with confidence that Griffiths will be ok when he eventually gets back..
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: Smokey on March 07, 2011, 12:46:49 PM
Wasn't it stated long ago that he was back into contact training? . . . Anyways, it is a shame he wont be ready sooner but at least they are being cautious! Hopefully he can play out the rest of the season when he does return  ;D

From the Matt Hornsby chat in Jan:

[Comment From JP: ]
Hi Matt, thanks for coming on for this! How is Ben Griffiths going now? He looks important to our chances ...

Ben is involved in all non-contact training, we will be progressing contact through Jan with the aim of being unrestricted in Feb

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg218167#msg218167 (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg218167#msg218167)
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: Oiafi on March 07, 2011, 01:05:10 PM
Wasn't it stated long ago that he was back into contact training? . . . Anyways, it is a shame he wont be ready sooner but at least they are being cautious! Hopefully he can play out the rest of the season when he does return  ;D

From the Matt Hornsby chat in Jan:

[Comment From JP: ]
Hi Matt, thanks for coming on for this! How is Ben Griffiths going now? He looks important to our chances ...

Ben is involved in all non-contact training, we will be progressing contact through Jan with the aim of being unrestricted in Feb

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg218167#msg218167 (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg218167#msg218167)

That was the aim. Good to have targets but if you can't meet them then better to wait until your 100% than push it and risk further injury just to meet a goal. Don't think it's panic stations quite yet.
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 07, 2011, 08:20:07 PM
Actually it's good news re Griffiths

Means they are taking it slowly, building up his strength in his shoulders and not rushing him back - works for me

 

doesnt work for me, I was told he will be right to go ROUND 1 :banghead



..so because you were told he would be ready for one then he should play regardless?  :banghead

Careful Al, comments like that will end up with you called an imbecile :birthday
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 07, 2011, 08:32:13 PM
Wasn't it stated long ago that he was back into contact training? . . . Anyways, it is a shame he wont be ready sooner but at least they are being cautious! Hopefully he can play out the rest of the season when he does return  ;D

From the Matt Hornsby chat in Jan:

[Comment From JP: ]
Hi Matt, thanks for coming on for this! How is Ben Griffiths going now? He looks important to our chances ...

Ben is involved in all non-contact training, we will be progressing contact through Jan with the aim of being unrestricted in Feb

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg218167#msg218167 (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg218167#msg218167)

Is it just me, or does the fact that he's appeared to miss his 'aim' by so many weeks SCREAM that he's redone his shoulder?  ???
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: WA Tiger on March 07, 2011, 08:34:45 PM
Griffiths has all the time in the world to come right. We needed Moore in the side though for this game, looks like Thursfield had better stand up then!!
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 07, 2011, 09:16:47 PM
Very worried about Griffiths shoulders. This does absolutely nothing to allay concerns.

His orthopaedic surgeon was satisfied with the operation and I know that for a fact ;). 
The club realise how important this man is in the long term and as such are not going to be forced to rush him in prematurely.

Be patient.  No one can guarantee anything, but rushing him definitely will not help.

Y&BB.
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: 1965 on March 07, 2011, 09:41:35 PM
Very worried about Griffiths shoulders. This does absolutely nothing to allay concerns.

His orthopaedic surgeon was satisfied with the operation and I know that for a fact ;). 
The club realise how important this man is in the long term and as such are not going to be forced to rush him in prematurely.

Be patient.  No one can guarantee anything, but rushing him definitely will not help.

Y&BB.

Registered for three years before your first post.

I'd say welcome aboard but you have been a stowaway for some time now.

Happy posting.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 07, 2011, 11:04:27 PM
doesnt work for me, I was told he will be right to go ROUND 1 :banghead

 :gobdrop :gobdrop looks like you were fed dud info jack  ;)  :rollin :rollin

It works for me because I never expected him to play any NAB Cup/Challenge stuff because of what I was told  ;) ;D

Very worried about Griffiths shoulders. This does absolutely nothing to allay concerns.

See Mr Magic I see it the other way.... easiest thing to do is throw him out there when the strength in the shoulder isn't  right, he cops a knock and it pops again and we all jump up and down and say he's stuffed his shoulder again. Cautious approach is what needed here as we are talking about a 19yo kid not a fully developed 24-25 yo bloke

Shoulder reco's are tough ones. I know someone who had one and they told me that like a knee it can take considerable time to get over it; up to 12 months to get the strength right and then your confidence back. All depends on the type of reco in that in is determined by how "tight" the muscles in the joint were stapled/stitched back into the socket



Was told by the coach they were aiming for round 1, that was some months ago, beleive what you want. ::)
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: mightytiges on March 07, 2011, 11:50:11 PM
doesnt work for me, I was told he will be right to go ROUND 1 :banghead

 :gobdrop :gobdrop looks like you were fed dud info jack  ;)  :rollin :rollin

It works for me because I never expected him to play any NAB Cup/Challenge stuff because of what I was told  ;) ;D

Very worried about Griffiths shoulders. This does absolutely nothing to allay concerns.

See Mr Magic I see it the other way.... easiest thing to do is throw him out there when the strength in the shoulder isn't  right, he cops a knock and it pops again and we all jump up and down and say he's stuffed his shoulder again. Cautious approach is what needed here as we are talking about a 19yo kid not a fully developed 24-25 yo bloke

Shoulder reco's are tough ones. I know someone who had one and they told me that like a knee it can take considerable time to get over it; up to 12 months to get the strength right and then your confidence back. All depends on the type of reco in that in is determined by how "tight" the muscles in the joint were stapled/stitched back into the socket



Was told by the coach they were aiming for round 1, that was some months ago, beleive what you want. ::)
I would say that was said more in hope than reality. I recall late last year being told Big Ben will more likely be back by round 5 which is about late April. An extra week or two isn't such a big deal if it means his shoulder is right.

Welcome aboard OER by the way Y&BB  :).
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 08, 2011, 06:54:08 AM
Was told by the coach they were aiming for round 1, that was some months ago, beleive what you want. ::)

 :rollin :rollin

"some months ago" there's your problem right there. Alot can happen in months  :thumbsup

I was told after Xmas that he was likely to be back around rounds 4-5, looks like that's the plan  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: Smokey on March 08, 2011, 07:29:09 AM
Very worried about Griffiths shoulders. This does absolutely nothing to allay concerns.

His orthopaedic surgeon was satisfied with the operation and I know that for a fact ;).  
The club realise how important this man is in the long term and as such are not going to be forced to rush him in prematurely.

Be patient.  No one can guarantee anything, but rushing him definitely will not help.

Y&BB.

I don't know his surgeon  :) but I agree with what you said.

And good to see a new poster.   :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: 1965 on March 08, 2011, 07:56:55 AM
Very worried about Griffiths shoulders. This does absolutely nothing to allay concerns.

His orthopaedic surgeon was satisfied with the operation and I know that for a fact ;).  
The club realise how important this man is in the long term and as such are not going to be forced to rush him in prematurely.

Be patient.  No one can guarantee anything, but rushing him definitely will not help.

Y&BB.

I don't know his surgeon  :) but I agree with what you said.

And good to see a new poster.   :thumbsup

Yes, let's hope it lifts the IQ level around here.

It seems to have slipped a little in recent times.

 :outtahere
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: Mr Magic on March 08, 2011, 12:04:02 PM
Very worried about Griffiths shoulders. This does absolutely nothing to allay concerns.

His orthopaedic surgeon was satisfied with the operation and I know that for a fact ;). 
The club realise how important this man is in the long term and as such are not going to be forced to rush him in prematurely.

Be patient.  No one can guarantee anything, but rushing him definitely will not help.

Y&BB.

Cheers for the info Y&BB.
I thought Cotchin's achillies was a worry too but with careful management that seems to have been fixed & he's flying.
Foley too is back on the park so for now they deserve the benefit of the doubt on resting Griff.
Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 08, 2011, 12:19:02 PM

Yes, let's hope it lifts the IQ level around here.

It seems to have slipped a little in recent times.

 :outtahere

As opposed to having a forum full of posters who are IT school teachers?

I bet the average wouldnt even crack 100!


Title: Re: Ben Griffiths out until May & Moore in doubt for round 1 (Australian)
Post by: Coach on March 08, 2011, 12:32:01 PM
Dooks, the one man I'd turn gay for


 :bow