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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 21, 2011, 02:57:30 AM
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Richmond turns to new recruits for season-opener against Carlton
* Greg Denham
* From: The Australian
* March 21, 2011
RICHMOND could introduce as many as five fresh faces into its line-up in the AFL season-opener against Carlton at the MCG on Thursday night.
After an ordinary pre-season campaign that included just one practice match win and an emotional Fighting Tiger fund-raiser last week that has already pledged more than $2.5 million of additional revenue for the club, Richmond is attempting to avoid its third round-one thrashing by the Blues in as many years.
Terry Wallace's senior coaching career was as good as over when his team, buoyed by Ben Cousins' return to the AFL, was humiliated by 83 points in front of more than 87,000 in the first game of 2009. And last year's start was not much better for new coach Damien Hardwick, when the Tigers went down to the Blues by 56 points, though there was little of the expectation from the previous year.
Attempting to arrest the recent Tigers early-season trend of blowout losses will be former Blues player Shaun Grigg, ex-Essendon midfielder Bachar Houli and the Tigers' first national draft selection from last year, Reece Conca.
Also looking to make their debut are Jake Batchelor and Brad Helbig.
With injuries to Kelvin Moore (hip) and Mitch Farmer (heel) and the suspension to Jake King, it appears that at least two, and possibly all, of the first three teenagers drafted by Richmond last year - Conca, at pick No 6 overall, Batchelor (30) and Helbig (47) - will make their senior debut on Thursday.
Conca is likely to start across half-back after an excellent pre-season, Batchelor is being considered as a running defender and Helbig could get a gig first up as a forward-midfielder.
Helbig, from West Adelaide, could be one of the Tigers' best bargains in recent years as they offered his national draft selection (47) to Essendon to secure Houli earlier, but the Bombers rejected the move and then later lost out on drafting Helbig.
Grigg and Houli were recruited from rival clubs to add more depth to a midfield that will also have a fit Nathan Foley available for the first time since early last season. Achilles and ankle problems have restricted Foley to just 18 out of a possible 44 games over the past two seasons.
Carlton, an odds-on favourite, cannot consider Ryan Houlihan (calf), Matthew Kreuzer (knee) and Setanta O'hAilpin (ankle), while Lachie Henderson is in doubt due to a restricted pre-season following hip surgery, but he has played two practice matches.
Carlton could play former defender Bret Thornton as a key forward after he was successfully trialled in an attacking role during the pre-season. Another positional move the Blues will swing this year is their use of Chris Yarran as a running defender after playing mainly as an opportunistic forward in his first two seasons at the elite level.
Without suspended stuff Michael Jamison, a new-look Blues back line will include ex-Geelong defender Jeremy Laidler for the first time and possibly mature-age South Australian recruit Nick Duigan.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/richmond-turns-to-new-recruits-for-season-opener-against-carlton/story-e6frg7mf-1226025050544
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no mention of Miller ???
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Derrickx is a little unlucky if he's not playing IMHO.
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no mention of Miller ???
Then why elevate him?
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elevating a rookie does not mean he is first 22, just that he is in the mix, along with 40 odd others.
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Derrickx is a little unlucky if he's not playing IMHO.
I suspect there is something that has given him an interupted preseason
He only played in the 1st round of the NAB Cup, or maybe the game against Port as well but then missed the games against Hawthorn & Adelaide
Was then given permission to play for Coburg on the weekend, given its his first year on an AFL list I assume they are going to want to make sure he has a better preparation for his first game
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Derickx had a bruised heel i think
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Derickx had a bruised heel i think
Yes, and the rumor is he struggled with it against the Bullants on Friday.
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we seem to get a few bruised heels?
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we seem to get a few bruised heels?
thats because we train on sub standard surfaces. Post did his ankle slipping on the turf at punt road.
Its actually a disgarceful situation for our players and reinforces the need for the FTF.
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Derickx had a bruised heel i think
Yes, and the rumor is he struggled with it against the Bullants on Friday.
Certainly did struggle to make an impact as he ended up not playing.
Don't expect to see him on Thursday night.
:thumbsup
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Derickx had a bruised heel i think
Yes, and the rumor is he struggled with it against the Bullants on Friday.
Certainly did struggle to make an impact as he ended up not playing.
Don't expect to see him on Thursday night.
:thumbsup
Really? I thought I saw a picture of him.
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Derickx had a bruised heel i think
Yes, and the rumor is he struggled with it against the Bullants on Friday.
Certainly did struggle to make an impact as he ended up not playing.
Don't expect to see him on Thursday night.
:thumbsup
Really? I thought I saw a picture of him.
Good source.
(http://www.asaltandbattery.com/assets/images/products/copies/lg_hp-sauce-big.jpg)
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Derickx had a bruised heel i think
Yes, and the rumor is he struggled with it against the Bullants on Friday.
Certainly did struggle to make an impact as he ended up not playing.
Don't expect to see him on Thursday night.
:thumbsup
Really? I thought I saw a picture of him.
He defiantly played........He may not have played the game out but he started...
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no mention of Miller ???
Hope Post plays
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no mention of Miller ???
Hope Post plays
me too
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I think its not too far fetched to say each of these 5-6 can and will improve our side immediately with perhaps the exception of Helbig(who I wont make a call on bc I havent seen him). I'm excited seeing so many new faces - not expecting miracles but good to see there is evolution in the air.
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I think its not too far fetched to say each of these 5-6 can and will improve our side immediately with perhaps the exception of Helbig(who I wont make a call on bc I havent seen him). I'm excited seeing so many new faces - not expecting miracles but good to see there is evolution in the air.
They are all decent kick's, thats a good start!!
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I think its not too far fetched to say each of these 5-6 can and will improve our side immediately with perhaps the exception of Helbig(who I wont make a call on bc I havent seen him). I'm excited seeing so many new faces - not expecting miracles but good to see there is evolution in the air.
I'm actually more excited about Helbig then the other players mentioned, this kid IMO will be something special.
He has a similar playing style to Dayne Beams, Midfield/HFF player with good skills, awareness and hard at it in the packs.
IMO if Helbig, Contin and Jakobi continue to develop these 3 will add another dimension to our midfield/forward line that will see the club take the next step into the 8.
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no mention of Miller ???
Hope Post plays
they said last Thursday night that Post wouldn't be playing.
He's coming back from sort of leg injury (can't remember what it was) and hasn't played enough durng the pre-season
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no mention of Miller ???
Hope Post plays
they said last Thursday night that Post wouldn't be playing.
He's coming back from sort of leg injury (can't remember what it was) and hasn't played enough durng the pre-season
All of a sudden Vickery and even a great unloved Miller becomes extremely important to our forwardline depth. If neither step up in the absence of Griffiths and Post we will be serverly undermanned in tall forward options. We may find that Derickx slips into this position if everything continues to go pear shaped in this area of the ground.
The worst thing hear is that besides Jack, Miller is our next most experienced and capable tall forward option. The others are all untried at best. :-\
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Would rather have 'untried' than 'unable'.
Teams? >:(
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Looks like we are depending on Jack and Ty to kick us some goals on Thursday night.
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Looks like we are depending on Jack and Ty to kick us some goals on Thursday night.
What about Brad Miller?
Surely we didn't recruit and then elevate him for his (wife's) good looks?
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I think its not too far fetched to say each of these 5-6 can and will improve our side immediately with perhaps the exception of Helbig(who I wont make a call on bc I havent seen him). I'm excited seeing so many new faces - not expecting miracles but good to see there is evolution in the air.
I'm actually more excited about Helbig then the other players mentioned, this kid IMO will be something special.
He has a similar playing style to Dayne Beams, Midfield/HFF player with good skills, awareness and hard at it in the packs.
IMO if Helbig, Contin and Jakobi continue to develop these 3 will add another dimension to our midfield/forward line that will see the club take the next step into the 8.
same here tige...havent seen Helbig but liked what i hear...saw a thing or two with Kakobi and to lesser extent with contin, sheesh if 2 froim 3 can come off we are a decent step forward
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no mention of Miller ???
Hope Post plays
they said last Thursday night that Post wouldn't be playing.
He's coming back from sort of leg injury (can't remember what it was) and hasn't played enough durng the pre-season
All of a sudden Vickery and even a great unloved Miller becomes extremely important to our forwardline depth. If neither step up in the absence of Griffiths and Post we will be serverly undermanned in tall forward options. We may find that Derickx slips into this position if everything continues to go pear shaped in this area of the ground.
The worst thing hear is that besides Jack, Miller is our next most experienced and capable tall forward option. The others are all untried at best. :-\
Then again they might be a bit short, no Kruezer, no O'Helpme and Henderson is under an injury cloud so to play Miller might be an excess. Sure they have Waite but..... Horses for courses.
Got to keep their mosquito fleet under wraps Garlett, Betts, Yarran and that I poo Robinson who seems to play his most memorable matches against us. Also need someone to get up Scotlands ar$e and not come out out until the eve of Round 2.
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Richmond will test Mitch Farmer's heel today but it unlikely he will play in Thursday night's season-opening clash against Carlton, where there is expected to be a crowd of around 80,000 at the MCG. However, the Tigers are expected to name a slew of new faces in their team, including Bachar Houli and Shaun Grigg.
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/countdown-for-reality-to-influence-fantasy-20110321-1c3ue.html
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This is a bit of a dream result post, but if we did beat the Blues on Thursday, i'd love to see the following:
Cotch slicing up the Blues midfield with monotonous regularity.
Martin busting through tackles and fending off Judd numerous times then bursting away and delivering to...
Jack Riewoldt who completely dominates Thornton, Waite and whoever else they try on him.
Deledio and Newman breaking down Carlton thrust after Carlton thrust and sending the ball back where it came from twice as fast as it got to them.
;D
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Gary March alluded to 10 changes from round 1 last year...
2010
B: Edwards Moore Newman
HB: Farmer McGuane Thursfield
C: Martin Deledio Nason
HF: Hislop Riewoldt Tambling
F: Roberts Morton Nahas
Foll: Simmonds Jackson Cotchin
Int: Vickery Cousins Connors Thomson
2011 guess
B: Connors McGuane Batchelor
HB: Astbury Rance Deledio
C: Grigg Martin Newman
HF: Houli Riewoldt Morton
F: Taylor Vickery Nahas
Foll: Graham Tuck Cotchin
Int: Jackson, Edwards, Foley
Sub: Conca
Emg: Derickx, White, Post
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Looks like we are depending on Jack and Ty to kick us some goals on Thursday night.
What about Brad Miller?
Surely we didn't recruit and then elevate him for his (wife's) good looks?
Hopefully Miller is running around for Coburg on Saturday.
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Gary March alluded to 10 changes from round 1 last year...
2010
B: Edwards Moore Newman
HB: Farmer McGuane Thursfield
C: Martin Deledio Nason
HF: Hislop Riewoldt Tambling
F: Roberts Morton Nahas
Foll: Simmonds Jackson Cotchin
Int: Vickery Cousins Connors Thomson
2011 guess
B: Connors McGuane Batchelor
HB: Astbury Rance Deledio
C: Grigg Martin Newman
HF: Houli Riewoldt Morton
F: Taylor Vickery Nahas
Foll: Graham Tuck Cotchin
Int: Jackson, Edwards, Foley
Sub: Conca
Emg: Derickx, White, Post
Out: Nahas
In : Helbig
Also can't see Connors playing in the backline much more, he was recently quoted in an article saying hes being moved back onto a wing.
Also I hate to say this but if what we saw of Edwards and his kicking during the NAB challenge games is anything to go by then he could find himself playing for Coburg.
Depending on form I could see either one of Jakobi or Contin replacing Edwards if he doesn't clean up his skills.
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The Tigers will have five new players with Shaun Grigg, who crossed to Richmond against Carlton's wishes at the end of last season in the Collins trade, and former Bomber Bachar Houli certain to line up at the MCG, alongside their first three 2010 national draft choices.
Richmond's first and second picks, Reece Conca and defender Jake Batchelor, have enjoyed impressive pre-seasons but South Australian midfielder Brad Helbig has proved the surprise packet for the Tigers over the past month. All three were unofficially named after a closed training session yesterday at Punt Road.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-may-name-former-tiger-collins-20110322-1c57w.html
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According to RichosGuns on BF:
Bit of a scoop. This is the squad for tomorrow night;
No real order-
Morton, Martin, White, Edwards, Nason, Cotchin, Foley, Batchelor, Dea, Rance, Riewoldt, Conca, Helbig, Post, Graham, Vickery, Deledio, Newman, Conners, Grigg
Houli, Nahas, Astbury, McGuane, Jackson
That should be 25... Only real surprises are no Tuck and Miller, while Nason, Dea and Post have made the squad of 25
Sauce: me @ training
Boys looking pretty sluggish though
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20460069&postcount=1
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Prediction: - After we lose, watch the masses go turn feral on this site regarding Nahas and White's game
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While its exciting to see new faces, the fact we are planning on playing 3 new recruits ontop of an already incredibly young team makes me feel sick :chuck All my self deluded, biased optimism is quickly fading back to reality the more I study the cold hard reality.
God I hope I'm wrong :pray
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Harden up bitcht¡ts :cheers
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Prediction: - After we lose, watch the masses go turn feral on this site regarding Nahas and White's game
and highly likely with good reason :rollin
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Prediction: - After we lose, watch the masses go turn feral on this site regarding Nahas and White's game
and highly likely with good reason :rollin
I'm with ya :whistle