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Title: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 25, 2011, 01:20:09 AM
At the moment our second twenty two:

B) Moore. Thursfield. Grimes.
Hb) Farmer. Gourdis. ORielly. 
c) Nason. Contin. Webberly.
hf) Taylor. Griffiths. Hicks.
f) King. Post. Macdonald.
Ob) Derickx. Tuck. Dea.

I) Jacobi. Browne. Hislop. Miller. Westhoff.
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: JVT on March 25, 2011, 08:53:37 AM
At the moment our second twenty two:

B) Moore. Thursfield. Grimes.
Hb) Farmer. Gourdis. ORielly. 
c) Nason. Contin. Webberly.
hf) Taylor. Griffiths. Hicks.
f) King. Post. Macdonald.
Ob) Derickx. Tuck. Dea.

I) Jacobi. Browne. Hislop. Miller. Westhoff.
I guess from the above list you really want to see the biggest pushes from Farmer, Gourdis, Taylor, Griff, Post, Macdonald, Derickx and Dea. These blokes pushing for selection will be a great sign of the depth we are beginning to develop as a club.
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 25, 2011, 09:01:05 AM
Thursfield, Grimes, Moore, Derickx, Griffths, King
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 25, 2011, 11:28:16 AM
Thursfield, Grimes, Moore, Derickx, Griffths, King

Taylor?
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Con65 on March 25, 2011, 12:00:50 PM
Taylor?

Lacks intensity at the moment...
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 25, 2011, 12:31:41 PM
Grimes, Gourdis, King, Derickx, Griffiths, Dea, Nason, Webberley, Post, O'Reilly.

What has happened to O'Reilly?
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: tiger4life on March 25, 2011, 05:32:45 PM
Out of the young kids, I would really love to see Griffiths, Taylor, Contin and Jakobi find there way into the side at some point during the year, I think the club will give Taylor a couple games in the 2s to get some match fitness and when Griffiths comes back from injury will be played in the 2s also.

Macdonald, Grimes and Post should all get game time this year, would really like to see how a forward line of

Taylor - Riewoldt - Macdonald

Helbig - Griffiths/Vickery/Post - King

I think that forward line could have some potency and trouble a few times with height and forward pressure with the speed of all 6 players.

Out of the older blokes Moore, King and Farmer should come straight back into the side after they recover from injury and Kings suspension.

Derickx I think will come in at some point, could maybe replace Gus to give him a rest for a couple of weeks and have a ruck combo of Derickx, Vicker/Post for a few weeks to see how that goes.
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Ox on March 25, 2011, 05:49:32 PM
post in the ruck?
r u serious?
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: tiger4life on March 25, 2011, 05:50:59 PM
post in the ruck?
r u serious?

It's called pinch hitting, something he did towards the end of last year a fair bit and did it quite well.

Maybe watch a bit more football?
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Ox on March 25, 2011, 07:16:34 PM
Lmao
Yeh, great idea.
Post the pinch hitter. 
Says a lot about our ruck stock.
It's like putting a gay band aid over cancer.
Keep watching the footy,tiger
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: 1965 on March 25, 2011, 07:19:11 PM
Lmao
Yeh, great idea.
Post the pinch hitter. 
Says a lot about our ruck stock.
It's like putting a gay band aid over cancer.
Keep watching the footy,tiger


Footy's back.

Now we can get some honest abuse happening not the trite 15yo crap we have been putting up with.

Well done OX, good to see some class back in the forum.


 :outtahere
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: 10 FLAGS on March 25, 2011, 07:50:19 PM
"Keep watching the footy, Tiger" is I admit one of the better sledges Ive seen in here and once again its been delivered by ox
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: tiger4life on March 25, 2011, 07:57:28 PM
Lmao
Yeh, great idea.
Post the pinch hitter. 
Says a lot about our ruck stock.
It's like putting a gay band aid over cancer.
Keep watching the footy,tiger


I guess it is a great idea considering how well he done as a pinch hitter and completely outclassed Brogan last year playing that role.

I guess I will keep watching the footy instead of having to read some of the crap you post.  :shh
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: bojangles17 on March 25, 2011, 08:11:27 PM
we've certainly managed to establish some depth, won't be easy to work into the senior side
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: big tone on March 25, 2011, 09:16:39 PM
Out of the young kids, I would really love to see Griffiths, Taylor, Contin and Jakobi find there way into the side at some point during the year, I think the club will give Taylor a couple games in the 2s to get some match fitness and when Griffiths comes back from injury will be played in the 2s also.

Macdonald, Grimes and Post should all get game time this year, would really like to see how a forward line of

Taylor - Riewoldt - Macdonald

Helbig - Griffiths/Vickery/Post - King

I think that forward line could have some potency and trouble a few times with height and forward pressure with the speed of all 6 players.

Out of the older blokes Moore, King and Farmer should come straight back into the side after they recover from injury and Kings suspension.

Derickx I think will come in at some point, could maybe replace Gus to give him a rest for a couple of weeks and have a ruck combo of Derickx, Vicker/Post for a few weeks to see how that goes.
As it showed last night in the third quarter, if we get the footy into our forwardline quick and with some direction we have some decent forwards. And to those who wanted to move Jack away from the goal square, it just showed how important he is at FF.
God i enjoyed that third quarter!!!
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 25, 2011, 09:25:04 PM
Out of the young kids, I would really love to see Griffiths, Taylor, Contin and Jakobi find there way into the side at some point during the year, I think the club will give Taylor a couple games in the 2s to get some match fitness and when Griffiths comes back from injury will be played in the 2s also.

Macdonald, Grimes and Post should all get game time this year, would really like to see how a forward line of

Taylor - Riewoldt - Macdonald

Helbig - Griffiths/Vickery/Post - King

I think that forward line could have some potency and trouble a few times with height and forward pressure with the speed of all 6 players.

Out of the older blokes Moore, King and Farmer should come straight back into the side after they recover from injury and Kings suspension.

Derickx I think will come in at some point, could maybe replace Gus to give him a rest for a couple of weeks and have a ruck combo of Derickx, Vicker/Post for a few weeks to see how that goes.
As it showed last night in the third quarter, if we get the footy into our forwardline quick and with some direction we have some decent forwards. And to those who wanted to move Jack away from the goal square, it just showed how important he is at FF.
God i enjoyed that third quarter!!!

Those who think that are either on drugs or need to watch that 3rd quarter again.

We just need to find someone who can play alongside him. Its worrying though BT, that Richo turned games in our favour just as Jack did last night and look where that got us.

Thought Morton's last half was average last night, after starting strong

Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: big tone on March 25, 2011, 09:37:18 PM
I really think its more about how it gets into our forwardline than if we have good enough players to kick a winning score... The more 'good' oppotunities we give these guys one on one the better we will become.

You will like this Daniel, had a hundred on the Tiges at halftime at 12 bucks. Made the third quarter even more exciting!  :lol

Go Tiges!!!!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 25, 2011, 09:48:55 PM
I really think its more about how it gets into our forwardline than if we have good enough players to kick a winning score... The more 'good' oppotunities we give these guys one on one the better we will become.

You will like this Daniel, had a hundred on the Tiges at halftime at 12 bucks. Made the third quarter even more exciting!  :lol

Go Tiges!!!!  :thumbsup


Yeah mrs found out i had another account in her name during the week she started calling me Fevola..lol

Last night wasnt about winning money i just wanted to run all over those idiots, especially after the half time sms's i was copping from Cartlon mates declaring the year over for Tigers already.

Was quite happy with how we played overall. Beating the Saints will be just as sweet as winning last night.

Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: TigerLand on March 26, 2011, 12:17:21 PM
Lmao
Yeh, great idea.
Post the pinch hitter. 
Says a lot about our ruck stock.
It's like putting a gay band aid over cancer.
Keep watching the footy,tiger


Ask Leigh Brown how his pinch hitting went, he won a flag.
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Ox on March 27, 2011, 10:43:51 PM
 Leigh Brown was a man......
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: TigerLand on March 27, 2011, 10:45:43 PM
Leigh Brown was a man......

Was a man?

Has he had a snag change?
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Tigermad20011 on March 28, 2011, 10:18:43 AM
we've certainly managed to establish some depth, won't be easy to work into the senior side
Does not mean the dep th is any good.
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Coach on March 28, 2011, 12:43:29 PM
Leigh Brown was a man......

Yep absolute beast of a bloke that works his arse off.
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 10, 2011, 07:47:25 AM
I cam see up seven odd changes from last night team.  

I would be happy to drop:  Jackson. Houli. Connors. Nahas. Edwards. White. Graham.


I would not drop
1st / 2nd year players at this stage.

People might be against dropping Jackson but tuck would give you similar output.

Options to come in:
talls;  Griffiths. Derickx. Browne. Moore. Post. Thursfield. Gourdis. Miller. Rance*. Mcgaune*
Small.  Tuck. Jackobi. Dea. Nason. Orielly. Hislop. Macdonald. Contin. Webberly. Farmer. Hicks.

What will the 22 be when we win our first game? What will team look like by round 22?
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 10, 2011, 08:02:58 AM
you must not go to games.
Jackson and Nahas tried there guts out last night.
Houli was okay
As for the rest you mentioned :banghead
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Penelope on April 10, 2011, 08:10:05 AM
agree 100% with you there Jack. Nahas in particular had a hand in about half our goals.
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 10, 2011, 08:15:17 AM
Connors, very much over rated.
Cant play in my opinion.
Wouldnt get a game in a top 4 team, so whats the point.
Kicking is ordinary, hits up opposition "'lace out"'
and continues to run himself into trouble.
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Mopsy on April 10, 2011, 08:34:46 AM
you must not go to games.
Jackson and Nahas tried there guts out last night.
Houli was okay
As for the rest you mentioned :banghead

There is always the box Jack - Nahas was very hard at it last night laid around 12 tackles and had pace in the wet
Jackson solid as always
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: 10 FLAGS on April 10, 2011, 08:36:50 AM
Connors, very much over rated.
Cant play in my opinion.
Wouldnt get a game in a top 4 team, so whats the point.
Kicking is ordinary, hits up opposition "'lace out"'
and continues to run himself into trouble.

100% correct  :thumbsup
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Smokey on April 10, 2011, 10:24:50 AM
I cam see up seven odd changes from last night team.  

I would be happy to drop:  Jackson. Houli. Connors. Nahas. Edwards. White. Graham.


I would not drop
1st / 2nd year players at this stage.

People might be against dropping Jackson but tuck would give you similar output.

Options to come in:
talls;  Griffiths. Derickx. Browne. Moore. Post. Thursfield. Gourdis. Miller. Rance*. Mcgaune*
Small.  Tuck. Jackobi. Dea. Nason. Orielly. Hislop. Macdonald. Contin. Webberly. Farmer. Hicks.

What will the 22 be when we win our first game? What will team look like by round 22?

Couldn't possibly drop Nahas or Jackson after last night - was almost Nahas' best game for us and I was staggered when he wasn't in our best in the media report I read.  Jackson and Tuck play different roles and Jackson was ok last night.  White has been excellent for 2 weeks so can't get dropped on one game.  The others you mentioned - maybe, but in my opinion you missed the one that really needs dropping and that's Morton.  Has not played anywhere near well enough for a player of his talent so far this season - needs a set role and a kick in the bum.
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 10, 2011, 10:31:26 AM
what happened to the theory of Morton playing on a wing, as we did in the last 4 games in 2010???
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Tigermonk on April 10, 2011, 04:23:41 PM
Leigh Brown was a man......

Was a man?

Has he had a snag change?

becareful what you say about Brown, his my wifes family members & she wont take kindly too what you write
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 10, 2011, 05:10:19 PM
you must not go to games.
Jackson and Nahas tried there guts out last night.
Houli was okay
As for the rest you mentioned :banghead
Agree.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 10, 2011, 05:17:26 PM
I can't understand the angst with Jackson. It's absolutely incomprehensible to me anyone would want to drop him on his contribution so far. He's a leader of young men showing what is required at the top level. Hardness, committment, guts, selflessness, team first.   
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: 10 FLAGS on April 10, 2011, 05:34:13 PM
I can't understand the angst with Jackson. It's absolutely incomprehensible to me anyone would want to drop him on his contribution so far. He's a leader of young men showing what is required at the top level. Hardness, committment, guts, selflessness, team first.   

and he turns over and chops up the footy week after week but who cares hey coz hes hard at the footy and his committed - good for him.
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 11, 2011, 04:44:09 AM
I can't understand the angst with Jackson. It's absolutely incomprehensible to me anyone would want to drop him on his contribution so far. He's a leader of young men showing what is required at the top level. Hardness, committment, guts, selflessness, team first.   

and he turns over and chops up the footy week after week but who cares hey coz hes hard at the footy and his committed - good for him.
how many clangers did he have on sat night in the wet Flags?
Sometimes players turn over the ball. If he is compared to some other players this week he did ok. Fact is all good players turn over the ball. In the wet this week he didn't have a clanger. I think you need to watch more footy.
Daniel Jackson 22 disposals 0 clangers 7 one percenters 7 clearences
Dane Swan   36 disposals 6 clangers 1 one percenters   10 clearences
Patrick Dangerfield 25 disposals 10 clangers 1 one percenter 5 clearences
Cameron Ling 31 disposals 2 clangers 1 one percenter 5 clearences
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Infamy on April 11, 2011, 09:36:20 AM
I can't understand the angst with Jackson. It's absolutely incomprehensible to me anyone would want to drop him on his contribution so far. He's a leader of young men showing what is required at the top level. Hardness, committment, guts, selflessness, team first.  

and he turns over and chops up the footy week after week but who cares hey coz hes hard at the footy and his committed - good for him.
He has improved in this area massively so far this year.
I also think our structures help substantially in regards to improving these turnovers as they know where their team mates should be running to rather than always having to kick to a contest or thread the eye of a needle with their kick
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 11, 2011, 10:01:49 AM
I can't understand the angst with Jackson. It's absolutely incomprehensible to me anyone would want to drop him on his contribution so far. He's a leader of young men showing what is required at the top level. Hardness, committment, guts, selflessness, team first.   

and he turns over and chops up the footy week after week but who cares hey coz hes hard at the footy and his committed - good for him.

you know what Ramps i used to think the same but i have praise for players who put their head over the ball. King, Jackson and even Nahas Saturday did exactly that. He may have clangers but i think he goes allright.

I was disgusted in players like Graham, Connors, Lids and Morton Saturday night. Who the farc do these weak idiots think they are seriously. Connors is more interested in his ink than getting his hands dirty.

Graham is an upgraded version of Richard Lounder. Weak as pee. Watching him fall to the ground when someone breathes air close to him is painful to watch. Seriously how can you be that tall and be as  weak as he is

Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Smokey on April 11, 2011, 06:03:50 PM

Graham is an upgraded version of Richard Lounder. Weak as pee. Watching him fall to the ground when someone breathes air close to him is painful to watch. Seriously how can you be that tall and be as  weak as he is


Got that right Daniel.   :thumbsup
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 11, 2011, 06:33:56 PM
For argument sake keep nahas and Jackson in the side long term.

when the like of Moore. Rance. Griff. Etc. Are available to play how would you see the team when Richmond is winning games later in the season (I hope)?
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Tigermonk on April 11, 2011, 09:37:46 PM
ever wondered why Rewoldt & conners have gone off the Rails  ;D
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 11, 2011, 10:32:22 PM
ever wondered why Rewoldt & conners have gone off the Rails  ;D

I have a fair idea
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Tigermonk on April 11, 2011, 10:36:32 PM
ever wondered why Rewoldt & conners have gone off the Rails  ;D

I have a fair idea

add a third party or 3 to that but - 1 cause l'm not 100% on all
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 26, 2011, 11:04:39 PM
Richmond line up week one of finals.  8)

Newman. Grimes. Moore.
Batchelor. Rance. ORielly.
Grigg. Deledio. Jackson.
Conca. Post. Nahas.
Griffiths. Riewoldt. King.
Browne. Martin. Cotchin.

Foley. Houli. Helbig.

+1. Tuck.
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: 10 FLAGS on April 26, 2011, 11:33:02 PM
I can't understand the angst with Jackson. It's absolutely incomprehensible to me anyone would want to drop him on his contribution so far. He's a leader of young men showing what is required at the top level. Hardness, committment, guts, selflessness, team first.   

and he turns over and chops up the footy week after week but who cares hey coz hes hard at the footy and his committed - good for him.
how many clangers did he have on sat night in the wet Flags?
Sometimes players turn over the ball. If he is compared to some other players this week he did ok. Fact is all good players turn over the ball. In the wet this week he didn't have a clanger. I think you need to watch more footy.
Daniel Jackson 22 disposals 0 clangers 7 one percenters 7 clearences
Dane Swan   36 disposals 6 clangers 1 one percenters   10 clearences
Patrick Dangerfield 25 disposals 10 clangers 1 one percenter 5 clearences
Cameron Ling 31 disposals 2 clangers 1 one percenter 5 clearences

Lets at least be honest about it - its a joke to consider Jackson in the same company as Swan, Dangerfield and Ling. Seriously lol.
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Infamy on April 27, 2011, 01:28:14 AM
Richmond line up week one of finals.  8)

Newman. Grimes. Moore.
Batchelor. Rance. ORielly.
Grigg. Deledio. Jackson.
Conca. Post. Nahas.
Griffiths. Riewoldt. King.
Browne. Martin. Cotchin.

Foley. Houli. Helbig.

+1. Tuck.
Do you sit at home with your own team board?
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Smokey on April 27, 2011, 07:46:26 AM

Do you sit at home with your own team board?

 :lol
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 27, 2011, 11:11:51 AM
Jackson had ibthink 12 Inside 50s last game.

I can't understand the angst with Jackson. It's absolutely incomprehensible to me anyone would want to drop him on his contribution so far. He's a leader of young men showing what is required at the top level. Hardness, committment, guts, selflessness, team first.   

and he turns over and chops up the footy week after week but who cares hey coz hes hard at the footy and his committed - good for him.
how many clangers did he have on sat night in the wet Flags?
Sometimes players turn over the ball. If he is compared to some other players this week he did ok. Fact is all good players turn over the ball. In the wet this week he didn't have a clanger. I think you need to watch more footy.
Daniel Jackson 22 disposals 0 clangers 7 one percenters 7 clearences
Dane Swan   36 disposals 6 clangers 1 one percenters   10 clearences
Patrick Dangerfield 25 disposals 10 clangers 1 one percenter 5 clearences
Cameron Ling 31 disposals 2 clangers 1 one percenter 5 clearences

Lets at least be honest about it - its a joke to consider Jackson in the same company as Swan, Dangerfield and Ling. Seriously lol.
Title: Re: What player/s will come into the 22 long term to improve the side?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 22, 2011, 12:47:25 AM
Current playing list not in senior team.

Moore. Thursfield. Orielly.
Webberly. Astbury. Miller.
Edwards. White. Connors.
Nason. Griffiths. Macdonald.
Dea. Gourdis. Morton.
Derickx. Hislop. Contin.

Graham. Jacobi. Hicks. Taylor*. Westhoff.