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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Francois Jackson on April 10, 2011, 11:27:41 AM

Title: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 10, 2011, 11:27:41 AM
For the life of me i just dont understand how we cant address these 2 basic principals of football.

Is it not drilled into them?

Week after week after week i see incidents where 2 tigers players and 1 opposition run for the ball, and the "other tiger player just stands close by yelling for the ball, without putting pressure on the opposition.

Its basic football yet we cant master it.

They dont want to block, they dont want to tackle because they are lazy and dont care. What other explanation can you find.

I dont buy that we are young because these are very simple things that you should do if your playing at this grade.

Jackson through his faults does it on a weekly basis, King, Newy also.

Players like Connors, Graham, Edwards, Lids dont do it. Downhill skiers the lot of them. Lids is our version of Nick dal santo.

Goes great when things are good but doesnt get his hands dirty when required.

Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Tigermonk on April 10, 2011, 12:43:10 PM
For the life of me i just dont understand how we cant address these 2 basic principals of football.

Is it not drilled into them?

Week after week after week i see incidents where 2 tigers players and 1 opposition run for the ball, and the "other tiger player just stands close by yelling for the ball, without putting pressure on the opposition.

Its basic football yet we cant master it.

They dont want to block, they dont want to tackle because they are lazy and dont care. What other explanation can you find.

I dont buy that we are young because these are very simple things that you should do if your playing at this grade.

Jackson through his faults does it on a weekly basis, King, Newy also.

Players like Connors, Graham, Edwards, Lids dont do it. Downhill skiers the lot of them. Lids is our version of Nick dal santo.

Goes great when things are good but doesnt get his hands dirty when required.



l pray for Hardwick to matchup Deledio on Pendlebury & Cotchin on Thomas. that would be good football
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 10, 2011, 12:58:56 PM
it wont happen
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 10, 2011, 01:00:58 PM
and if that it did happen, pendlebury will go to goal square and Lids will go with him, and we get beaten by 20 goals
Oh yeah, honorable loss ::) ::) ::)
 Dimma needs to do this, If Pendlebury did go to goal square, leave Lids on ball, . :birthday
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Tigermonk on April 10, 2011, 01:07:54 PM
and if that it did happen, pendlebury will go to goal square and Lids will go with him, and we get beaten by 20 goals
Oh yeah, honorable loss ::) ::) ::)
 Dimma needs to do this, If Pendlebury did go to goal square, leave Lids on ball, . :birthday

Pendles only goes to goal when he bursts upground to support or setup, Quality player l must say. Deledio should be performing the same, But his not as damaging as his lazy & just wont do it cause others around him dont lend support & his carrying them but wont put the extra effort in if that makes sence :cheers  ;D Newman dont lead by any good example & often cant read the play. l tired of our players falling over
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 10, 2011, 01:13:09 PM
but whats has happened is this. the oppostion realise the way to stuff us up is too take Lids out of the play, thus if he goes to a player, they go and sit in goal square and Lids goes with him.
Even happened last week during the saints game.
And it will happen AGAIN next week, you wait and see.
Couldnt believe it last night when our best player was standing in the oppsition goal sqaure and are coaches are too stupid or sacred to put him back in the middle :banghead
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Tigermonk on April 10, 2011, 01:32:14 PM
mate l would have him in the middle to help win the ball out & we would not have to worry who is down the goal square.
Why put your good players where they cannot create the play & create damage. Deledio has always been coached wrong from day 1.
players will see this after many years & will want out.

Win the ball 1st wins games
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: TigerLand on April 10, 2011, 03:05:50 PM
Yawn. I want my last 5 minutes back after reading this Collingwood love fest. Isn't this an RFC forum?
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Tigermonk on April 10, 2011, 03:26:46 PM
Yawn. I want my last 5 minutes back after reading this Collingwood love fest. Isn't this an RFC forum?

whats that Brad lol
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on April 10, 2011, 03:51:42 PM
mate l would have him in the middle to help win the ball out & we would not have to worry who is down the goal square.
Why put your good players where they cannot create the play & create damage. Deledio has always been coached wrong from day 1.
players will see this after many years & will want out.

Win the ball 1st wins games

Luke Hodge won a NS playing CHb
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: tigersalive on April 10, 2011, 04:04:30 PM
but whats has happened is this. the oppostion realise the way to stuff us up is too take Lids out of the play, thus if he goes to a player, they go and sit in goal square and Lids goes with him.
Even happened last week during the saints game.
And it will happen AGAIN next week, you wait and see.
Couldnt believe it last night when our best player was standing in the oppsition goal sqaure and are coaches are too stupid or sacred to put him back in the middle :banghead

This is 100% on the money. Coaches put their player at FF to make lids follow them because they know he will follow and no change made which completely  negates our most damaging player.  :banghead
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 10, 2011, 04:21:59 PM
For the life of me i just dont understand how we cant address these 2 basic principals of football.

Is it not drilled into them?

Week after week after week i see incidents where 2 tigers players and 1 opposition run for the ball, and the "other tiger player just stands close by yelling for the ball, without putting pressure on the opposition.

Its basic football yet we cant master it.

They dont want to block, they dont want to tackle because they are lazy and dont care. What other explanation can you find.

I dont buy that we are young because these are very simple things that you should do if your playing at this grade.

Jackson through his faults does it on a weekly basis, King, Newy also.

Players like Connors, Graham, Edwards, Lids dont do it. Downhill skiers the lot of them. Lids is our version of Nick dal santo.

Goes great when things are good but doesnt get his hands dirty when required.


excellent post Daniel.
It's fair to say Jackson has had many ditractors on this forum. But whilst not a star player he is absolutely a   Beacon of example on how to play the hardball. Put his body on the line time & time again. His commitment to his team and teamates is unquestionable. Dido Newman. 
Any poster who ever said a bad word about these guys I think should be a man, fess up and apologise to them on this thread!!!
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 10, 2011, 04:27:54 PM
mate l would have him in the middle to help win the ball out & we would not have to worry who is down the goal square.
Why put your good players where they cannot create the play & create damage. Deledio has always been coached wrong from day 1.
players will see this after many years & will want out.

Win the ball 1st wins games

Luke Hodge won a NS playing CHb

last time i looked, Hodge isnt Lids ::)
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Tigermonk on April 10, 2011, 04:29:17 PM
mate l would have him in the middle to help win the ball out & we would not have to worry who is down the goal square.
Why put your good players where they cannot create the play & create damage. Deledio has always been coached wrong from day 1.
players will see this after many years & will want out.

Win the ball 1st wins games

Luke Hodge won a NS playing CHb

last time i looked, Hodge isnt Lids ::)

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on April 10, 2011, 04:48:02 PM
mate l would have him in the middle to help win the ball out & we would not have to worry who is down the goal square.
Why put your good players where they cannot create the play & create damage. Deledio has always been coached wrong from day 1.
players will see this after many years & will want out.

Win the ball 1st wins games

Luke Hodge won a NS playing CHb

last time i looked, Hodge isnt Lids ::)

 :laugh:

How is that funny?

Your not Jackstar.
 :jump
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 10, 2011, 05:03:37 PM
only one Jackstar ;) :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Gigantor on April 10, 2011, 05:05:34 PM
And we are blessed to have him...LOL
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Willy on April 10, 2011, 05:12:28 PM
I thought Lids got his hands pretty dirty last week.
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Tigermonk on April 10, 2011, 05:16:35 PM
only one Jackstar ;) :thumbsup

oh no is someone thinking l'm J  ;D get the  :police:
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 10, 2011, 05:22:39 PM
I thought Lids got his hands pretty dirty last week.

yes but thats the point one good game, 2 average ones. Do you think thats acceptable. I dont. I love Lids but lets face it he is lazy.

Very much like Nick D.S if you ask me.

Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 10, 2011, 05:27:03 PM
I thought Lids got his hands pretty dirty last week.

yes but thats the point one good game, 2 average ones. Do you think thats acceptable. I dont. I love Lids but lets face it he is lazy.

Very much like Nick D.S if you ask me.


now that's harsh. If I was Lids I would be really upset by that comparison.
......I hope he reads it though.
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Smokey on April 10, 2011, 05:34:44 PM
only one Jackstar ;) :thumbsup

I beg to differ Jack.  You have had a number of nom-de-plumes on here!   :P   ;D
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 10, 2011, 05:38:18 PM
I thought Lids got his hands pretty dirty last week.

yes but thats the point one good game, 2 average ones. Do you think thats acceptable. I dont. I love Lids but lets face it he is lazy.

Very much like Nick D.S if you ask me.






now that's harsh. If I was Lids I would be really upset by that comparison.
......I hope he reads it though.

absolute bull poo not harsh at all. Easy getting the cheap kicks behind the pack when all is going well but last night we needed leaders and in front of my eyes i saw him twice attempt the ball with one hand going slow motion..

He is part of our future but lets put it into perspective he can be very lazy at times.
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 10, 2011, 06:24:39 PM
only one Jackstar ;) :thumbsup

I beg to differ Jack.  You have had a number of nom-de-plumes on here!   :P   ;D

Incorrect wrong.
Everyone knows who I am
the disgruntled employee who spent four years slaving his guts to try and improve the yellow and black, only to be poo on
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: 1965 on April 10, 2011, 06:29:47 PM
only one Jackstar ;) :thumbsup

I beg to differ Jack.  You have had a number of nom-de-plumes on here!   :P   ;D

Incorrect wrong.
Everyone knows who I am
the disgruntled employee who spent four years slaving his guts to try and improve the yellow and black, only to be poo on


and not holding a grudge at all

 :bow :thumbsup :cheers :lol
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Penelope on April 10, 2011, 06:31:41 PM
only one Jackstar ;) :thumbsup

I beg to differ Jack.  You have had a number of nom-de-plumes on here!   :P   ;D

Incorrect wrong.
Everyone knows who I am
the disgruntled employee who spent four years slaving his guts to try and improve the yellow and black, only to be poo on

The bitterness doesn't show through at all....
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Smokey on April 10, 2011, 06:36:58 PM
only one Jackstar ;) :thumbsup

I beg to differ Jack.  You have had a number of nom-de-plumes on here!   :P   ;D

Incorrect wrong.
Everyone knows who I am
the disgruntled employee who spent four years slaving his guts to try and improve the yellow and black, only to be poo on

The bitterness doesn't show through at all....

And obviously totally ignorant of the poke tongue and smiley accompanying my post.  Chill out Jack, I know who you are, I was just having a friendly dig!  ;)
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on April 10, 2011, 07:06:06 PM
only one Jackstar ;) :thumbsup

I beg to differ Jack.  You have had a number of nom-de-plumes on here!   :P   ;D

Incorrect wrong.
Everyone knows who I am
the disgruntled employee who spent four years slaving his guts to try and improve the yellow and black,
only to be poo on

You seem like high maintenance to me - the "listen to me" crap gets very draining after a while. You might not know it because it is easier to ignore or move people like you on than to try and reason.
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: tony_montana on April 10, 2011, 07:16:20 PM
good post daniel, its the same ol poo, we've been a poor shepharding/blocking/selfless side for more than 20 years - hate to say it but CULTURE
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 10, 2011, 07:21:04 PM
good post daniel, its the same ol poo, we've been a poor shepharding/blocking/selfless side for more than 20 years - hate to say it but CULTURE

Its disgraceful TM watching senior players not help out a mate instead waving their arms around demanding the ball.

Basic football yet we find a way to stuff it up. That game we played against Port in the wet last year is the standard of 1% we should be doing each and every week not last nights rubbish
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 10, 2011, 08:44:09 PM
only one Jackstar ;) :thumbsup

I beg to differ Jack.  You have had a number of nom-de-plumes on here!   :P   ;D

Incorrect wrong.
Everyone knows who I am
the disgruntled employee who spent four years slaving his guts to try and improve the yellow and black,
only to be poo on

You seem like high maintenance to me - the "listen to me" crap gets very draining after a while. You might not know it because it is easier to ignore or move people like you on than to try and reason.

have you ever thought I might be right, and the last 3-4 years of pain could have been avoided ?????????????????????????
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 10, 2011, 08:45:25 PM
for what its worth , I bleed yellow and black and spew at seeing dimwhits make decisions that have no idea
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on April 10, 2011, 09:39:09 PM
for what its worth , I bleed yellow and black and spew at seeing dimwhits make decisions that have no idea

I know you do but there is complete imbalance to your opinion on this forum. Barely a peep
When there is a win or good effort/promising signs. Complete over the top baying for blood when there is a shocker. No team can be "on" for 26 weeks and we will be "off" for plenty more games this year. I am also sick and tired of you crapping on about people having no idea. Mate you have no idea how to communicate - incessant negative stuff to people has never consistently motivated or improved anyone in the history of sport. So stop preaching and start looking at your own backyard for a change.
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 10, 2011, 09:44:23 PM
mate, only if you knew
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 10, 2011, 09:46:04 PM
and you obvious dont'
we haven't won a game against a melb based club since mid year 2009
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 10, 2011, 09:47:23 PM
for what its worth , I bleed yellow and black and spew at seeing dimwhits make decisions that have no idea

I know you do but there is complete imbalance to your opinion on this forum. Barely a peep
When there is a win or good effort/promising signs. Complete over the top baying for blood when there is a shocker. No team can be "on" for 26 weeks and we will be "off" for plenty more games this year. I am also sick and tired of you crapping on about people having no idea. Mate you have no idea how to communicate - incessant negative stuff to people has never consistently motivated or improved anyone in the history of sport. So stop preaching and start looking at your own backyard for a change.

also, who recruited relton roberts and troy taylor ?
other clubs laugh at us
FACT
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: bojangles17 on April 10, 2011, 09:58:40 PM
ok Greg Miller, the games over :lol
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: Infamy on April 10, 2011, 10:29:20 PM
for what its worth , I bleed yellow and black and spew at seeing dimwhits make decisions that have no idea

I know you do but there is complete imbalance to your opinion on this forum. Barely a peep
When there is a win or good effort/promising signs. Complete over the top baying for blood when there is a shocker. No team can be "on" for 26 weeks and we will be "off" for plenty more games this year. I am also sick and tired of you crapping on about people having no idea. Mate you have no idea how to communicate - incessant negative stuff to people has never consistently motivated or improved anyone in the history of sport. So stop preaching and start looking at your own backyard for a change.

also, who recruited relton roberts and troy taylor ?
other clubs laugh at us
FACT
Collingwood were the ones who talked him into nominating for the draft and would have picked him if we didn't
FACT
Title: Re: Shepherding/Tackling
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 10, 2011, 10:32:16 PM
ok Greg Miller, the games over :lol


Not likely, greg miller= parasite