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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Francois Jackson on April 16, 2011, 02:45:37 PM
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Is there anyone here who can tell me who our weights coach or strength and conditioning bloke is?
He needs to have a look at his development of our players. I personally dont think he has a clue.
I think its disgraceful how Dawes is what 20kgs heavier than Thursfield yet been in the system a few years less. How did he have a chance seriously?
Eagles players like Darling make some of our players look like little girls.
Im not talking about the 1st year players either more the ones who have been around for a while like Edwards and Thursfield. Both were owned last night in a massive way. Edwards by everyone who came within a metre and Thursfield by Dawes
How long do we have to wait before Grimes, Astbury, Griffiths and co put on some size 3, 4 or 6 years.
Put both of those boys at the Eagles and they would look like Darling and co so whats the issue with our club
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Here you go daniel
Elite Performance Manager: Matt Hornsby (was there when Wallace was Coach)
Rehabilitation & conditioning Coach: Terry Condon (3rd or 4th year I thik)
Strength Coach: Adam Douglas (2nd year)
Sports Science Assistant: Brendan Fahrner
Boxing Coach: John Vickery (IMO shouldn't be there has a conflict with his son being on the list)
From: http://oneeyed-richmond.com/club.htm#football
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One area of the club that hardly had any major change in personnel post-Wallace era. The club seems to be counting on the new facilities to do the trick as far as improving our fitness, strength and size. Last night showed we are still way off in those areas. Many of our boys were running on the spot in the last qtr as they were totally stuffed and out of juice.
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Would have to agree on this, otherclubs seem to either recruit massive kids and we recruit small frame players. Or, their smaller framed kids develop into man mountains and ours stay the same.
Has been happening for years!!!!!! Not sure whats going on there.
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Here you go daniel
Elite Performance Manager: Matt Hornsby (was there when Wallace was Coach)
Rehabilitation & conditioning Coach: Terry Condon (3rd or 4th year I thik)
Strength Coach: Adam Douglas (2nd year)
Sports Science Assistant: Brendan Fahrner
Boxing Coach: John Vickery (IMO shouldn't be there has a conflict with his son being on the list)
From: http://oneeyed-richmond.com/club.htm#football
would think there are 3 there that shouldnt be there
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Vickery conflict of interest goodbye. Probably one of the reasons Tyrone was recruited in the first place.
Hornsby how he survived the Wallace era is a joke really. Players like Thursfield and Edwards are the same tooth picks that arrived at our club years ago. He should be embarrassed when he sees little Blair push our players to the ground.
I would like to see him go seasons end before he ruins the physical development of Astbury, Grimes and Batchelor.
Jack Darling at pick 27 what an absolute steal and what a unit.
What do they feed those blokes in the West seriously and why cant we work our poo out. Glass, Darling, Big Nat all large units.
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Vickery conflict of interest goodbye. Probably one of the reasons Tyrone was recruited in the first place.
Hornsby how he survived the Wallace era is a joke really. Players like Thursfield and Edwards are the same tooth picks that arrived at our club years ago. He should be embarrassed when he sees little Blair push our players to the ground.
I would like to see him go seasons end before he ruins the physical development of Astbury, Grimes and Batchelor.
Jack Darling at pick 27 what an absolute steal and what a unit.
What do they feed those blokes in the West seriously and why cant we work our poo out. Glass, Darling, Big Nat all large units.
hey knob, vickery is developing nicely, esp for a guy of his size,
ffs u dont build top teams overnite
and with the conditioning of players, i have been anti honsby for yrs but must admit, we can see major improvements in size over th epast 18 months, one more preseason and we will have some monsters
lids is building good size as in dan connors, not easy to bench 150 kg as easy as he did
even titch is showing improvement
jackson is tough as is haka boy and cotch
we are starting to build, and bachelor looks like a boy who will build up big and fast and does conca
im going to reserve my judgement for another pre season
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Wasn't this year or last year the first time we actually had a proper weights coach?
Pretty ridiculous to think that a boxing coach would have any influence over the recruitment department and match commitee too
Either way, Vickery is coming along just fine, has kicked a goal in every game this year, taking contested marks and still very agile. He's so far ahead of schedule its not funny
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Hey X.
Vickery is coburg bound in the next few weeks.
Another top performance of 5 possesions last night. ::)
As for you mentioning Dan Connors, :lol
He is so overweight its a joke.
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Wasn't this year or last year the first time we actually had a proper weights coach?
Pretty ridiculous to think that a boxing coach would have any influence over the recruitment department and match commitee too
Either way, Vickery is coming along just fine, has kicked a goal in every game this year, taking contested marks and still very agile. He's so far ahead of schedule its not funny
Dont know what game you went too last night, thought he was hopeless. i didnt see him take a contested mark, and will continually spoilled by an opponent 6 inches smaller
You people are dreamers.
We have six gun players and 16 scrubbers, thats it.
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Hey X.
Vickery is coburg bound in the next few weeks.
Another top performance of 5 possesions last night. ::)
As for you mentioning Dan Connors, :lol
He is so overweight its a joke.
we will see
and dan is not over weight , was speaking to him the other day, is in great shape
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Wasn't this year or last year the first time we actually had a proper weights coach?
Pretty ridiculous to think that a boxing coach would have any influence over the recruitment department and match commitee too
Either way, Vickery is coming along just fine, has kicked a goal in every game this year, taking contested marks and still very agile. He's so far ahead of schedule its not funny
exactly
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apart from the usual sticks thursfield, edwards amd mcguane i would've thought it was pretty obvious that collectively we're looking bigger this season
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Hey X.
Vickery is coburg bound in the next few weeks.
Another top performance of 5 possesions last night. ::)
As for you mentioning Dan Connors, :lol
He is so overweight its a joke.
we will see
and dan is not over weight , was speaking to him the other day, is in great shape
LOL :lol :birthday
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I think you'll find that this pre season had the biggest increase in weight and size over players under 23 years of age.
Guys like Cotchin, Martin, Nason, Nahas, Vickery even Edwards have put bulk on since last year.
Something that has never happened in the past 10 years.
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Hey X.
Vickery is coburg bound in the next few weeks.
Another top performance of 5 possesions last night. ::)
As for you mentioning Dan Connors, :lol
He is so overweight its a joke.
we will see
and dan is not over weight , was speaking to him the other day, is in great shape
hey X, your an expert in weights.
bananas $12,99 a kilo :rollin
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Vickery conflict of interest goodbye. Probably one of the reasons Tyrone was recruited in the first place.
Hornsby how he survived the Wallace era is a joke really. Players like Thursfield and Edwards are the same tooth picks that arrived at our club years ago. He should be embarrassed when he sees little Blair push our players to the ground.
I would like to see him go seasons end before he ruins the physical development of Astbury, Grimes and Batchelor.
Jack Darling at pick 27 what an absolute steal and what a unit.
What do they feed those blokes in the West seriously and why cant we work our poo out. Glass, Darling, Big Nat all large units.
hey knob, vickery is developing nicely, esp for a guy of his size,
ffs u dont build top teams overnite
and with the conditioning of players, i have been anti honsby for yrs but must admit, we can see major improvements in size over th epast 18 months, one more preseason and we will have some monsters
lids is building good size as in dan connors, not easy to bench 150 kg as easy as he did
even titch is showing improvement
jackson is tough as is haka boy and cotch
we are starting to build, and bachelor looks like a boy who will build up big and fast and does conca
im going to reserve my judgement for another pre season
Bloke your not listening i never said Vickery wasnt developing all i said was why is his old man working for the club. Its a conflict of interest.
Great job his doing as the boxing coach too, waste of money would rather have another weights coach.
As for Titch developing well i think you have been hanging around Infamy too much. He is a rake mate and got owned by Blair/Thomas.
Did you watch the game seriously that was just plain weak.
Jackson is a tough nut and i think we need him so much in our team, especially with these puny alter boys that Wallace recruited.
Hornsby has been in the system for over 5 years and really has failed so why is he still there.
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Daniel, you are correct :thumbsup
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Who cares what Vickery and his old man do. I really don't think it influences the selection.
Yep and Peter Hudson being at Hawthorn when Paul was playing there?
Trying to focus on something that is not there.
Every week Jack you name a player Connors was dropped now you are on Vickery.
Vickery being able to play either ruck or fwd and being a tall in his 3rd season for the sake of his development stays IMHO you should be on the anti Edwards train given the slop he dished up last night 5th season of AFL skill and decision making as well as size pretty much the same as when he walked into the place. :-\
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The reason the RFC have been abject failures is because we persist with players who arent up to.
The Vickery situation is of interest and he had knee issues and hardly had a impact at TAC level.
Did his dad influence the selection, i would say yes.
Vickery average 5 possesions a game or less.
if you want us to be bottom 4 for the next 5 years, keep playing Duds.
I want to play Finals, and not be losers.
Vickery efforts against players 6 inches shorter was poor last night
before you slag me, i have spent all after noon watching the replays after being there last night as well.
Also Miller was good last night, at least he put his body in the right spot.
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Jack opinions and observations are fine and we will question and debate them. Never am I slagging you or endeavouring to do so for what you perceive or
Watching the replay is your perogative also I saw it last night when I got home and again this morning when I was feeding my baby. :thumbsup
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will also say Edwards isnt an AFL player who will play finals
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will also say Edwards isnt an AFL player who will play finals
I agree with you there Jack. If the jury was out on this bloke it shouldn't be after that sub standard effort.
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The reason the RFC have been abject failures is because we persist with players who arent up to.
The Vickery situation is of interest and he had knee issues and hardly had a impact at TAC level.
Did his dad influence the selection, i would say yes.
Vickery average 5 possesions a game or less.
if you want us to be bottom 4 for the next 5 years, keep playing Duds.
I want to play Finals, and not be losers.
Vickery efforts against players 6 inches shorter was poor last night
before you slag me, i have spent all after noon watching the replays after being there last night as well.
Also Miller was good last night, at least he put his body in the right spot.
Why do you say yes?
Does he have pics of the the coach at the time and recruiting staff in compromising postitions?
Please explain how the (part time?) boxing coach could possibly influence the decision making of the recruiters and football dept?
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Can anyone confirm who is still our weights coach. If anyone has any pull at Punt Road can they get rid of this spud before its too late.
Please dont me this bloke is still Part Time as he has been for the last 5 years.
I laugh me head off when i watch the likes of Thursfield at a playing weight of 85kgs against guys like Heath Shaw all heavier and smaller.
We are kididng ourselves if we persist here. I can tell you now players like Nason, Nahas will still look fantasy island characters in 2 years time and Browne will still look a giant pear. Those are the facts we need a change here
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Who is the dude at Hawthorn that Hardwick was trying to poach when he first came across?
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Vickery conflict of interest goodbye. Probably one of the reasons Tyrone was recruited in the first place.
Hornsby how he survived the Wallace era is a joke really. Players like Thursfield and Edwards are the same tooth picks that arrived at our club years ago. He should be embarrassed when he sees little Blair push our players to the ground.
I would like to see him go seasons end before he ruins the physical development of Astbury, Grimes and Batchelor.
Jack Darling at pick 27 what an absolute steal and what a unit.
What do they feed those blokes in the West seriously and why cant we work our poo out. Glass, Darling, Big Nat all large units.
hey knob, vickery is developing nicely, esp for a guy of his size,
ffs u dont build top teams overnite
and with the conditioning of players, i have been anti honsby for yrs but must admit, we can see major improvements in size over th epast 18 months, one more preseason and we will have some monsters
lids is building good size as in dan connors, not easy to bench 150 kg as easy as he did
even titch is showing improvement
jackson is tough as is haka boy and cotch
we are starting to build, and bachelor looks like a boy who will build up big and fast and does conca
im going to reserve my judgement for another pre season
Bloke your not listening i never said Vickery wasnt developing all i said was why is his old man working for the club. Its a conflict of interest.
Great job his doing as the boxing coach too, waste of money would rather have another weights coach.
As for Titch developing well i think you have been hanging around Infamy too much. He is a rake mate and got owned by Blair/Thomas.
Did you watch the game seriously that was just plain weak.
Jackson is a tough nut and i think we need him so much in our team, especially with these puny alter boys that Wallace recruited.
Hornsby has been in the system for over 5 years and really has failed so why is he still there.
WTF would you need another weights coach? You reckon two of them will make our players twice as big? Or just halve the amount of time it takes to make sure the new guys have their programs and are doing the work outs correctly? The workouts related to boxing are fantastic for cardio / dexterity / agility and if they are doing the kettlebells that a lot of boxers do like Kostya Tzu, they are brilliant for upper body strength and endurance. Gives those jumper punches a bit more oomf lol
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Can anyone confirm who is still our weights coach. If anyone has any pull at Punt Road can they get rid of this spud before its too late.
Please dont me this bloke is still Part Time as he has been for the last 5 years.
Elite Performance Manager - Matthew Hornsby
Rehabilitation and Conditioning Coach - Terry Condon
Strength Coach - Adam Douglas
Sport Science Assistant - Brendan Fahrner
Boxing Coach - John Vickery
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staff%20members/tabid/13343/default.aspx
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Wrong owl our players are amongst the weakest inthe league. Can't lay tackles if their life depended on it
Thursfield been in the game for what 5 yrs yet still is a toothpick
Did you know we had a p/t weights coach up until recently.
That's a joke. I even heard when wallett was coaching players chose their own gym program
How long has Hornsby been in the job
I think should clean the lot of them out. Time to start fresh
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Wrong owl our players are amongst the weakest inthe league. Can't lay tackles if their life depended on it
Thursfield been in the game for what 5 yrs yet still is a toothpick
Did you know we had a p/t weights coach up until recently.
That's a joke. I even heard when wallett was coaching players chose their own gym program
How long has Hornsby been in the job
I think should clean the lot of them out. Time to start fresh
Size is not the only pre requisite for laying good tackles! Techniques need to be sound also!
I also wonder if weights sessions are compromised for other sessions which may include structures and skills development?
Things are crook when we start blaming the weights and boxing coach!
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I have regularly questioned whether we are fit enough in comparision with other AFL sides.
Fitness is a huge factor in a breakdown of skills, game style, goal kicking etc...