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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 21, 2011, 04:48:33 PM
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Richmond have five blokes who could be All Australian in quality - Deledio, Newman, Riewoldt, Martin and Cotchin - but too many of the men in black and yellow don't cut it at the moment."
http://www.stuff-in-round-five/story-fn3g97ka-1226040898769
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While we are a bottom 4 side we'll never have 5 AAs. Lids would be our only AA chance at this stage unless Jack kicks a few bags and regains the lead in the Coleman. Cotch, Dusty and Newy will miss out because mids and hbfs in the top sides will easily get preference over them.
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I don't think anyone suggested they or any of them would be AA this year, just that they are potential AA quality players
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While we are a bottom 4 side we'll never have 5 AAs. Lids would be our only AA chance at this stage unless Jack kicks a few bags and regains the lead in the Coleman. Cotch, Dusty and Newy will miss out because mids and hbfs in the top sides will easily get preference over them.
Conversely, if we had 5 AAs then we probably wouldn't be a bottom 4 side.
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interesting topic as our 5 top players are guns
Are problem is our bottom 5-6 are the worst in the league
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interesting topic as our 5 top players are guns
Are problem is our bottom 5-6 are the worst in the league
Know what you mean Jack but it's more our middle 6 who have some experience by now that are the worst in the league. There's a major drop-off in ability and footy smarts after our top 6 and that's why we are a bottom side. Our bottom 6 right now would be our young inexperienced 1-2 years players in the seniors unless we consider someone like Conca already in our top 12 based on his potential talent. Hopefully there's enough of these younger guys with the necessary talent (fingers crossed) to fill the middle 6-lower 6 void in the next 2-3 years.
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believe that Conca wouldnt be in the bottom 6.
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Healy and Russell on 3aw just before were talking about possible All-Australian candidates this year. Healy said Martin would be a certainty on current form and output while even Kingy :o might be a chance if he continues to bag a few goals each week for the rest of the reason.
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Mark Robinson's current All-Australian side up to Round 7:
B: Heath Shaw, Michael Jamison, Matthew Scarlett
HB: Heath Scotland, Dustin Fletcher, Brett Deledio
C: Scott Pendlebury, Jobe Watson, Andrew Embley
HF: Dustin Martin, Buddy Franklin, Stewart Crameri
F: Jeff Garlett, Jack Riewoldt, Adam Goodes
Ruck: Aaron Sandilands, Chris Judd, Dane Swan
Inter: Dean Cox, David Mundy, Sam Mitchell, Brent Moloney
Also unlucky were Marc Murphy, Matthew Boyd, Dale Thomas, Jude Bolton, Nathan Fyfe, Trent Cotchin, Matthew Priddis, Michael Rischitelli, and, of course, Gazza.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle
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AFL website has Lids, Jack and Dusty in their current All-Australian side...
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/2011/images/gteam_round7_110511.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/113622/default.aspx
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Not bas reall, but I just hate seeing Lids in that half back position.
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Prefer seeing Lids there than Harry High knees O'Bribem
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Bottom 6 this year something like:
Miller
mcgaune
grimes
vickery
white
Graham / batchelor
interesting topic as our 5 top players are guns
Are problem is our bottom 5-6 are the worst in the league
Know what you mean Jack but it's more our middle 6 who have some experience by now that are the worst in the league. There's a major drop-off in ability and footy smarts after our top 6 and that's why we are a bottom side. Our bottom 6 right now would be our young inexperienced 1-2 years players in the seniors unless we consider someone like Conca already in our top 12 based on his potential talent. Hopefully there's enough of these younger guys with the necessary talent (fingers crossed) to fill the middle 6-lower 6 void in the next 2-3 years.
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Bentleigh does that mean our middle 6 are something like:
nahas
nason
kingy
edwards
rance
jackson/conca ?
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Crawf only has Jack in his AA side and Jack is stuck in a forward pocket.
B: Scarlett Jamison Gibson
HB: Shaw Fletcher Kelly
C: Thomas Pendlebury Embley
HF: Murphy Kennedy Bartel
F: Garlett Franklin J.Riewoldt
R: Cox Judd Watson
Int: J.Bolton, Ball, Mundy, Sandilands
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/all-form-and-no-favours-for-shane-crawfords-all-australian-team/story-fn82yfty-1226069301059
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Shane Crawford is an idiot and is just trying to fit 2 CHFs into the forward line and midfielders into the HBF & HFF
He should know that it isn't done this way anymore
He doesn't even have Dane Swan in the entire team
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Josh Gibson? WTF?? ???
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Josh Gibson? WTF?? ???
He has been good this year... but not AA off half a good season
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Crawf only has Jack in his AA side and Jack is stuck in a forward pocket.
B: Scarlett Jamison Gibson
HB: Shaw Fletcher Kelly
C: Thomas Pendlebury Embley
HF: Murphy Kennedy Bartel
F: Garlett Franklin J.Riewoldt
R: Cox Judd Watson
Int: J.Bolton, Ball, Mundy, Sandilands
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/all-form-and-no-favours-for-shane-crawfords-all-australian-team/story-fn82yfty-1226069301059
James Kelly give me a spell.
Luke Ball on the bench no chance.
Kennady one good game, isn't AA.
Would put Bartel on the bench, replace with Steve Johnson.
Get rid of James Kelly and Sam Fisher would get a run.
Would replace Kennady with Rioli.
Franklin CHF, Jack FF also.
B: Scarlett Jamison Gibson
HB: Shaw Fletcher Fisher
C: Thomas Pendlebury Embley
HF: Murphy Franklin Johnson
F: Garlett Riewoldt C.Rioli
R: Cox Judd Watson
Int: J.Bolton, Bartel, Mundy, Sandilands
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Crawf's correct IMO. We don't have too many at this stage worthy of a AA jumper.
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Deledio and Jack are the ones that come to mind.
Cotch and Dusty may be a smokey.
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Rohan Connolly has no Tigers in his mid-season All-Australian side:
B: Michael Jamison, Daniel Merrett, Matthew Scarlett
HB: Heath Shaw, Sam Fisher, Heath Scotland
C: James Kelly, Jobe Watson, Marc Murphy
HF: Scott Pendlebury, Lance Franklin, Dale Thomas
F: Jeff Garlett, Josh Kennedy, Andrew Walker
FOLL: Dean Cox, Chris Judd, Gary Ablett
I/C: Aaron Sandilands, Joel Selwood, Matthew Boyd, Matthew Priddis
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/a-sixpack-of-stars-comes-out-of-the-blue-20110615-1g3xc.html#ixzz1PPWWqj7I
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Rohan Connolly has no Tigers in his mid-season All-Australian side:
B: Michael Jamison, Daniel Merrett, Matthew Scarlett
HB: Heath Shaw, Sam Fisher, Heath Scotland
C: James Kelly, Jobe Watson, Marc Murphy
HF: Scott Pendlebury, Lance Franklin, Dale Thomas
F: Jeff Garlett, Josh Kennedy, Andrew Walker
FOLL: Dean Cox, Chris Judd, Gary Ablett
I/C: Aaron Sandilands, Joel Selwood, Matthew Boyd, Matthew Priddis
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/a-sixpack-of-stars-comes-out-of-the-blue-20110615-1g3xc.html#ixzz1PPWWqj7I
Jeff Garlett ahead of Jack Riewoldt ? LMFAO ! Garlett should be in the weak as pee AA team
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Jack, Lids and Dusty are in the AFL site's All-Australian equivalent up to round 15......
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/2011/images/Greatest-Team-Round-15-060711.jpg)
Greatest Team of All
By Tim Roman
Wed 06 Jul, 2011
IF GREATEST Team of All could piggyback on a single hackneyed cliché, it would certainly be "form is temporary, class is permanent".
Right now, the team is looking a pretty solid unit, replete with players in career-best form and many who will be strong contenders for a Brownlow Medal at the end of 2011 - think Marc Murphy, Chris Judd, Gary Ablett or even Travis Cloke.
However, it also has three Tigers on the field. All three were part of a disgraceful effort against Carlton on Saturday. This was a match that coach Damien Hardwick had consigned to the dustbin by the time of his post-match press conference, declaring that nothing whatsoever could be learned from it by the club.
We're happy to take Hardwick at his word and give Dustin Martin, Brett Deledio and Jack Riewoldt a week's respite from the red-hot glare of the Greatest Team of All's selectors.
It's strange that Riewoldt, the AFL's leading goalkicker, has attracted such stinging criticism of his form in 2011. Last year, there were scribes who decried his selfishness as he racked up 78 goals for the 15th-placed Tigers on his way to the Coleman medal.
This year, Riewoldt still leads the AFL goalkicking (albeit with a lower goals per game average), is ranked equal third in the league for goal assists and is part of a clearly improved team who still have a legitimate chance of playing finals. There's just no pleasing some people.
Martin is playing his second season of AFL football. That's right, his second season. Two weeks ago, he kicked five goals from midfield to bury the Brisbane Lions and it's almost unheard of for second year players to average 23.5 disposals per game the way the third pick in the 2009 NAB AFL Draft is.
Chris Judd wasn't approaching those kinds of numbers until his fourth season with the Eagles.
Deledio is probably closest to fringe of Greatest Team of All. While he's shone on occasion this year, his big games don't generally translate into wins for the Tigers. He put in a super performance against Collingwood in round four as Richmond were put in their place by the reigning premiers to the tune of 71 points and he was at least serviceable in the weekend's debacle.
The truth is, creative half-backs are a little scarce at the moment with Deledio's biggest challengers being a rejuvenated Heath Scotland and perennial All Australian candidate Corey Enright.
We'll give Brett another week to come up with the goods against the Bombers before we look for other options.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/117936/default.aspx
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It's strange that Riewoldt, the AFL's leading goalkicker, has attracted such stinging criticism of his form in 2011. Last year, there were scribes who decried his selfishness as he racked up 78 goals for the 15th-placed Tigers on his way to the Coleman medal.
This year, Riewoldt still leads the AFL goalkicking (albeit with a lower goals per game average), is ranked equal third in the league for goal assists and is part of a clearly improved team who still have a legitimate chance of playing finals. There's just no pleasing some people.
Too true. Met him today. A nice bloke. Much smaller than I expected but I do work with a guy who's 201 cm tall and played college basketball in the states. I'm used to him now so most people look small compared with him lol.
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Rohan Connolly has no Tigers in his mid-season All-Australian side:
B: Michael Jamison, Daniel Merrett, Matthew Scarlett
HB: Heath Shaw, Sam Fisher, Heath Scotland
C: James Kelly, Jobe Watson, Marc Murphy
HF: Scott Pendlebury, Lance Franklin, Dale Thomas
F: Jeff Garlett, Josh Kennedy, Andrew Walker
FOLL: Dean Cox, Chris Judd, Gary Ablett
I/C: Aaron Sandilands, Joel Selwood, Matthew Boyd, Matthew Priddis
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/a-sixpack-of-stars-comes-out-of-the-blue-20110615-1g3xc.html#ixzz1PPWWqj7I
How can you not have the player leading the Coleman medal in the All Aus side lol. He's had 4 poor games but he is leading the goal kicking for a reason.
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Rohan Connolly is a squeaking idiot. One of the rubber, pet toy types
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Lids is the only Tiger in Robbo's All-Australian side ...
B: Grant Birchall, Matthew Scarlett, Corey Enright
HB: Heath Scotland, Ben Reid, Leon Davis
C: Dale Thomas, Sam Mitchell, Marc Murphy
HF: Steve Johnson, Travis Cloke, Dane Swan
F: Stephen Milne, Buddy Franklin, Adam Goodes
Foll: Dean Cox, Scott Pendlebury, Chris Judd
Inter: Todd Goldstein, Brett Deledio, Matthew Boyd, Gary Ablett
Richmond's Brett Deledio won an interchange spot, averaging 25.7 touches and conceding just 14 goals. In an inconsistent team, Deledio has been outstanding.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/blues-deserve-an-mcg-final/story-fn5937w8-1226124189109
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Lids is a lock for AA - starting 18. Still cant believe he got beaten to a spot by Harry O last season, robbed.
take out steve johnson and replace with walker
replace enright in starting 18 with Lids and put Thompson on the bench. Also think mcPharlin>Scarlett
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Also think mcPharlin>Scarlett
Agree here - I reckon McPharlin's been outstanding for Freo
Scarlett get's the gig in most commentators teams becuase his name is Scarlett
He's been good Scarlett but not as good as previous years IMHO
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McPharlin is a gun. Wonder if Maxwell gets a gig this year ;D Surely the best captain ever is a chance ;D
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Lids is the only Tiger to make the All-Australian squad of 40.
The All Australian selection panel is: Andrew Demetriou (chairman), Adrian Anderson, Kevin Bartlett, Luke Darcy, Danny Frawley, Glen Jakovich, Leigh Matthews and Mark Ricciuto.
The squad members named are in order of club representation is as follows:
Scott Thompson, Adelaide. Never previously selected. 22 games in 2011. 343 kicks, 94 marks, 330 handballs (second in the AFL), averaging 15.6 kicks, 4.3 marks, 15.0 handballs. Second in the AFL in total disposals. Eight Goals, Six Behinds. 136 Clearances, 84 Inside 50m, 46 Rebound 50m
Eddie Betts, Carlton. Never previously selected. 22 games in 2011. 161 kicks, 84 marks, 113 handballs, averaging 7.3 kicks, 3.8 marks, 5.1 handballs. 45 Goals 19 Behinds. 16 Clearances, 38 Inside 50m, One Rebound 50m
Chris Judd, Carlton. Previously selected 2004, 2006, 2008 (captain), 2009, 2010. 22 games in 2011. 281 kicks, 64 marks, 316 handballs (fourth in the AFL), averaging 12.8 kicks, 2.9 marks, 14.4 handballs. 13 Goals 15 Behinds. 148 Clearances (fourth in the AFL), 101 Inside 50m, 28 Rebound 50m.
Marc Murphy, Carlton. Never Previously selected. 22 games in 2011. 356 kicks, 102 marks, 283 handballs, averaging 16.2 kicks, 4.6 marks, 12.9 handballs. Fourth in the AFL in total disposals. 19 Goals 10 Behinds. 117 Clearances, 99 Inside 50m, 38 Rebound 50m.
Heath Scotland, Carlton. Never Previously selected. 22 games in 2011. 324 kicks, 150 marks (fourth in the AFL), 249 handballs, averaging 14.7 kicks, 6.8 marks, 11.3 handballs. Four Goals Four Behinds. 52 Clearances, 86 Inside 50m, 51 Rebound 50m.
Travis Cloke, Collingwood. Never previously selected. 22 games in 2011. 281 kicks, 170 marks (equal first in the AFL), 69 handballs, averaging 12.8 kicks, 7.7 marks, 3.1 handballs. 62 Goals (second in the AFL) 43 Behinds. Six Clearances, 111 Inside 50m (fifth in the AFL), Two Rebound 50m
Leon Davis, Collingwood. Previously selected 2009. 18 games in 2011. 283 kicks, 72 marks, 103 handballs, averaging 15.7 kicks, 4.0 marks, 5.7 handballs. Six Goals Eight Behinds. 21 Clearances, 52 Inside 50m, 80 Rebound 50m
Scott Pendlebury, Collingwood. Previously selected 2010. 22 games in 2011. 328 kicks, 95 marks, 311 handballs (fifth in the AFL), averaging 14.9 kicks, 4.3 marks, 14.1 handballs. 24 Goals Eight Behinds. 111 Clearances, 92 Inside 50m, 27 Rebound 50m.
Ben Reid, Collingwood. Never Previously selected. 22 games in 2011. 230 kicks, 156 marks (third in the AFL), 118 handballs, averaging 10.4 kicks, 7.1 marks, 5.4 handballs. One Goal Zero Behinds. Four Clearances, 31 Inside 50m, 84 Rebound 50m.
Dane Swan, Collingwood. Previously selected 2009, 2010. 21 games in 2011. 419 kicks (first in the AFL), 117 marks, 246 handballs, averaging 20.0 kicks, 5.6 marks, 11.7 handballs. Third in the AFL in total disposals. 30 Goals 21 Behinds. 123 Clearances, 109 Inside 50m, 38 Rebound 50m.
Dale Thomas, Collingwood. Never Previously selected. 19 games in 2011. 309 kicks, 118 marks, 168 handballs, averaging 16.3 kicks, 6.2marks, 8.8 handballs. 13 Goals, 13 Behinds. 64 Clearances, 77 Inside 50m, 40 Rebound 50m
Nat Fyfe, Fremantle. Never previously selected. 21 games in 2011. 253 kicks, 111 marks, 274 handballs, averaging 12.0 kicks, 5.3 marks, 13.0 handballs. 18 Goals 14 Behinds. 75 Clearances, 79 Inside 50m, 33 Rebound 50m
Luke McPharlin, Fremantle. Never previously selected. 20 games in 2011. 191 kicks, 129 marks, 116 handballs, averaging 9.6 kicks, 6.4 marks, 5.8 handballs. One Goal, One Behind. Six Clearances, 10 Inside 50m, 65 Rebound 50m
Corey Enright, Geelong Cats. Previously selected 2008, 2009, 2010. 20 games in 2011. 297 kicks, 135 marks, 172 handballs, averaging 14.8 kicks, 6.8 marks, 8.6 handballs. One Goal Zero Behinds. 17 Clearances, 51 Inside 50m, 71 Rebound 50m.
Steve Johnson, Geelong. Previously selected 2007, 2008, 2010. 20 games in 2011. 276 kicks, 130 marks, 182 handballs, averaging 13.8 kicks, 6.5 marks, 9.1 handballs. 44 Goals 29 Behinds. 50 Clearances, 77 Inside 50m, 23 Rebound 50m.
James Kelly, Geelong. Never Previously selected. 21 games in 2011. 272 kicks, 53 marks, 239 handballs, averaging 13.0 kicks, 2.5 marks, 11.4 handballs. Five Goals 10 Behinds. 90 Clearances, 92 Inside 50m, 31 Rebound 50m.
Matthew Scarlett, Geelong Previously selected 2003, 2004, 2007, 2008, 2009. 19 games in 2011. 196 kicks, 102 marks, 137 handballs, averaging 10.3 kicks, 5.4 marks, 7.2 handballs. One Goal, One Behind. Three Clearances, 23 Inside 50m, 63 Rebound 50m.
Joel Selwood, Geelong. Previously selected 2009, 2010. 17 games in 2011. 249 kicks, 74 marks, 196 handballs, averaging 14.6 kicks, 4.4 marks, 11.5 handballs. 12 Goals 12 Behinds. 87 Clearances, 97 Inside 50m, 24 Rebound 50m.
Harry Taylor, Geelong. Never Previously selected. 21 games in 2011. 184 kicks, 129 marks, 131 handballs, averaging 8.8 kicks, 6.1 marks, 6.2 handballs. Zero Goals Two Behinds. Five Clearances, 16 Inside 50m, 52 Rebound 50m.
Gary Ablett, Gold Coast. Previously selected 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 (vice-captain). 20 games in 2011. 304 kicks, 45 marks, 301 handballs, averaging 15.2 kicks, 2.2 marks, 15.0 handballs. 18 Goals 17 Behinds. 133 Clearances, 99 Inside 50m, 62 Rebound 50m.
Grant Birchall, Hawthorn. Never previously selected. 21 games in 2011. 302 kicks, 147 marks (fifth in the AFL), 197 handballs, averaging 14.4 kicks, 7.0 marks, 9.4 handballs. Three Goals Seven Behinds. 11 Clearances, 44 Inside 50m, 56 Rebound 50m.
Lance Franklin, Hawthorn. Previously selected 2008, 2010. 19 games in 2011. 226 kicks, 118 marks, 139 handballs, averaging 11.9 kicks, 6.2 marks, 7.3handballs. 71 Goals (first in the AFL) 54 Behinds. 15 Clearances, 53 Inside 50m, Seven Rebound 50m.
Josh Gibson, Hawthorn. Never previously selected. 22 games in 2011. 210 kicks, 111 marks, 164 handballs, averaging 9.6 kicks, 5.0 marks, 7.4 handballs. Zero Goals Zero Behinds. Five Clearances, 11 Inside 50m, 60 Rebound 50m.
Sam Mitchell, Hawthorn. Never Previously selected. 20 games in 2011. 361 kicks (fifth in the AFL), 88 marks, 261 handballs, averaging 18.0 kicks, 4.4 marks, 13.0 handballs. Fifth in the AFL in total disposals. 11 Goals Six Behinds. 115 Clearances, 95 Inside 50m, 32 Rebound 50m.
Todd Goldstein, North Melbourne. Never Previously selected. 21 games in 2011. 151 kicks, 73 marks, 137 handballs, averaging 7.2 kicks, 3.5 marks, 659 handballs. 13 Goals Six Behinds. 741 hits outs averaging 35.3 per game. 84 Clearances, 52 Inside 50m, 19 Rebound 50m.
Drew Petrie, North Melbourne. Never Previously selected. 21 games in 2011. 222 kicks, 129 marks, 72 handballs, averaging 10.6 kicks, 6.1 marks, 3.4 handballs. 48 Goals 41 Behinds. 98 hit outs averaging 4.7 per game. 22 Clearances, 41 Inside 50m, Five Rebound 50m.
Andrew Swallow, North Melbourne. Never Previously selected. 22 games in 2011. 268 kicks, 69 marks, 294 handballs, averaging 12.2 kicks, 3.1 marks, 13.4 handballs. 11 Goals Seven Behinds. 148 Clearances (third in the AFL), 95 Inside 50m, 40 Rebound 50m.
Daniel Wells, North Melbourne. Never Previously selected. 22 games in 2011. 312 kicks, 80 marks, 180 handballs, averaging 14.9 kicks, 3.8 marks, 8.6 handballs. 17 Goals 15 Behinds. 94 Clearances, 101 Inside 50m, 37 Rebound 50m.
Brett Deledio, Richmond. Never Previously selected. 22 games in 2011. 281 kicks, 91 marks, 282 handballs, averaging 12.8 kicks, 4.1 marks, 12.8 handballs. Nine Goals 11 Behinds. 56 Clearances, 85 Inside 50m, 82 Rebound 50m (fifth in the AFL).
Nick Dal Santo, St Kilda. Previously selected 2005, 2009. 22 games in 2011. 320 kicks, 74 marks, 262 handballs, averaging 14.6 kicks, 3.4 marks, 11.9 handballs. 13 Goals Eight Behinds. 111 Clearances, 76 Inside 50m, 67 Rebound 50m.
Sam Fisher, St Kilda. Never previously selected. 22 games in 2011. 277 kicks, 146 marks, 188 handballs, averaging 12.6 kicks, 6.6 marks, 8.6 handballs. Two Goals Three Behinds. 17 Clearances, 43 Inside 50m, 70 Rebound 50m.
Stephen Milne, St Kilda. Never previously selected. 22 games in 2011. 220 kicks, 90 marks, 74 handballs, averaging 10.0 kicks, 4.1 marks, 3.4 handballs. 55 Goals (fourth in the AFL) 32 Behinds. 21 Clearances, 64 Inside 50m, 13 Rebound 50m.
Adam Goodes, Sydney Swans. Previously selected 2003, 2006, 2009. 22 games in 2011. 293 kicks, 138 marks, 173 handballs, averaging 13.3 kicks, 6.3 marks, 7.9 handballs. 36 Goals 31 Behinds. 69 Clearances, 124 Inside 50m (second in the AFL), 12 Rebound 50m.
Dean Cox, West Coast. Previously selected 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008. 22 games in 2011. 249 kicks, 128 marks, 154 handballs, averaging 11.3 kicks, 5.8 marks, 7.0 handballs. 19 Goals 17 Behinds. 657 hit outs averaging 29.9 hit outs per game. 85 Clearances, 58 Inside 50m, 24 Rebound 50m.
Andrew Embley, West Coast. Never Previously selected. 21 games in 2011. 274 kicks, 102 marks, 185 handballs, averaging 13.0 kicks, 4.9 marks, 8.8 handballs. 17 Goals 17 Behinds. 44 Clearances, 94 Inside 50m, 39 Rebound 50m.
Darren Glass, West Coast. Previously selected 2006, 2007. 21 games in 2011. 115 kicks, 84 marks, 122 handballs, averaging 5.5 kicks, 4.0 marks, 5.8 handballs. Zero Goals Zero Behinds. Four Clearances, Four Inside 50m, 40 Rebound 50m.
Josh Kennedy, West Coast. Never Previously selected. 20 games in 2011. 186 kicks, 129 marks, 53 handballs, averaging 9.3 kicks, 6.4 marks, 2.6 handballs. 52 Goals 33 Behinds. Four Clearances, 60 Inside 50m, Zero Rebound 50m.
Matt Priddis, West Coast. Never Previously selected. 22 games in 2011. 242 kicks, 73 marks, 344 handballs (first in the AFL), averaging 11.0 kicks, 3.3 marks, 15.6 handballs. Seven Goals Five Behinds. 137 Clearances, 80 Inside 50m, 24 Rebound 50m.
Matthew Boyd, Western Bulldogs. Previously selected 2009. 22 games in 2011. 398 kicks (second in the AFL, 85 marks, 303 handballs, averaging 18.1 kicks, 3.9 marks, 13.8 handballs. First in the AFL in total disposals. Eight Goals Five Behinds. 154 Clearances (first in the AFL), 115 Inside 50m (fourth in the AFL), 75 Rebound 50m.
Robert Murphy, Western Bulldogs. Never previously selected. 21 games in 2011. 306 kicks, 77 marks, 128 handballs, averaging 14.6 kicks, 3.7 marks, 6.1 handballs. Six Goals Four Behinds. 10 Clearances, 44 Inside 50m, 111 Rebound 50m (third in the AFL).
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/122844/default.aspx
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LOL at Adrian Anderson on the selection panel.
What the eff would he know!
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suits me that they leave our players out. keeps them lower profile and under the radar. As they said, Lids was crapping all over Harry O'nuffnuff when he got picked before him so its all horsecrap anyway. Let em fill it will scumwood players for all I care. Nothing counts except the grand final.
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suits me that they leave our players out. keeps them lower profile and under the radar. As they said, Lids was crapping all over Harry O'nuffnuff when he got picked before him so its all horsecrap anyway. Let em fill it will scumwood players for all I care. Nothing counts except the grand final.
dunno about that Owl. If We could have paid someone to put jackson in it would increase his trade value.
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Josh Gibson ;D He had a good season by his very average standards. Rance was better
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No real surprise only Lids got a gig. Jack was down on goalscoring output this year, Newy got injured, and Cotch and Dusty aren't yet at that consistent level to be named alongside the premier mids in the comp. (they should be in the next year or two).
Lids' stats stack up strong from that list as far as a HBFer. I reckon he may get into the final 22.
B: Davis Glass Gibson
HB: Enright Reid Deledio
C: Kelly Mitchell Swan
HF: Thomas Cloke Selwood
F: Milne Franklin Goodes
R: Cox Judd (c) Ablett (vc)
Int: Murphy, Pendlebury, Thompson, Scotland
Emg: Goldstein, Taylor, Boyd
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Not sure how Fyfe made the squad but dusty didnt? Martin has kicked 33 goals, 20+assists and has had more impact in more games than most players let alone Fyfe (yep he had some quiet ones too) but Fyfe's output this season has been ridiculously overhyped. Also how does Selwood make the squad after missing 6 games??? Davis has missed 4 also - if Lids gets beaten to a spot by another Harry o bc of the hype..... Surely he will make it, gets more inside 50's than most midfielders and gets more first possession than any other rebounding defenders.
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suits me that they leave our players out. keeps them lower profile and under the radar. As they said, Lids was crapping all over Harry O'nuffnuff when he got picked before him so its all horsecrap anyway. Let em fill it will scumwood players for all I care. Nothing counts except the grand final.
dunno about that Owl. If We could have paid someone to put jackson in it would increase his trade value.
LOL true Al
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Lids missed out on a HBF spot...
The team to date is:
B: Scarlett (Geel), Glass (WCE), Enright (Geel)
HB: Murphy (WB), Reid (Coll), Davis (Coll)
C: Thomas (Coll), Mitchell (Haw), Pendlebury (Coll)
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Davis is a effing back pocket.
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Lids missed out on a HBF spot...
The team to date is:
B: Scarlett (Geel), Glass (WCE), Enright (Geel)
HB: Murphy (WB), Reid (Coll), Davis (Coll)
C: Thomas (Coll), Mitchell (Haw), Pendlebury (Coll)
ROBERT MURPHY?
Just about the worst All Aus selection you'd ever see.
How Gibson isn't in there I don't know.
Deledio, Scotland, Birchall all had better years than Leon Davis. Robert Murphy? You have got to be joking?
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you'd have to be bloody joking, how on earth is Murphy judged better than Lids, less I50's, less clearances, less goals and less average possies, but yep you guessed it old muffin chops contends he had a better year...i reckon paul the octopus would do a better job selecting the side than these clowns :lol
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Lids missed out...
The Official 2011 All-Australian team
B: Matthew Scarlett (Geel) Darren Glass (WCE) Corey Enright (Geel)
HB: Robert Murphy (WB) Ben Reid (Coll) Leon Davis (Coll)
C: Dale Thomas (Coll) Sam Mitchell (Haw) Scott Pendlebury (Coll)
HF: Marc Murphy (Carl) Travis Cloke (Coll) Dane Swan (Coll)
F: Stephen Milne (St K) Lance Franklin (Haw) Adam Goodes (Syd)
Foll: Dean Cox (WCE) Chris Judd (Carl) [Vice-Captain] Gary Ablett Jnr (GC) [Captain]
INT: Matthew Boyd (WB), Nick Dal Santo (St K), James Kelly (Geel), Drew Petrie (NM)
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Safe to say that is an effing joke. ROBERT MURPHY!
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who are the stuffin dumb idiots who selected Murphy and Dal Santo that puny prick get selected in the AA.
What a stuffin joke.
Dal Santo..LMFAO
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http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=8&pid1=225&tid2=15&pid2=1484&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=S
>:(
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Murphy (R), Scarlett, Petrie, Dal Santo
Pathetic selections
Funny Stuff
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Did I miss something. Rob Murphy was not in All Australia form this year.
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Safe to say that is an effing joke. ROBERT MURPHY!
So is Boyd's selection.
Both shouldn't of been in the team.
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It wouldn't matter if we were minor premiers, there is a lot of Richmond haters out there, just watch any match and the commentary is usually regaling the opposition whether we are winning or not, This is something younger fans might not realise and some of the older ones have forgotten, we have got as many haters as Collingwood.
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for me there were 2 pathetic mistakes in Murphy and Dal Santo. Lids and Scott Thompson shouldve been their replacements
More than happy with other selections. Cant complain about players like Davis making it. His had a good year
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for me there were 2 pathetic mistakes in Murphy and Dal Santo. Lids and Scott Thompson shouldve been their replacements
More than happy with other selections. Cant complain about players like Davis making it. His had a good year
Totally agree Dan..... Think there may be some egg on peoples faces on Brownlow night with Scotty Thompson.
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Jack Riewoldt didn't hide his feelings on twitter tonight about Lids being overlooked for AA ...
"Brett Deledio absolutely robbed, averaged over 26 touches from halfback, what more can he do??? #robbed"
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Murphy (R), Scarlett, Petrie, Dal Santo
Pathetic selections
Funny Stuff
What a joke of a selection, Riewoldt comes equal second in the Coleman and doesn't even make it into the squad. :banghead
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what an effin joke,
Lids, Scotland, thompson and McPharlin robbed - all were better than Glass, Scarlett, Murphy, Dal Santo, Davis and even Enright who only got into gear the last 6-8 weeks prior to that he was solid nothing more. So much bias, it really poos me that a player like Deledio SHOULD be a 2 time AA at 24 and on track to be a star, instead he doesnt even have one, makes a big difference in how he is perceived. Its just wrong, he's served his apprenticeship, wtf has bob murphy done? Davis? he got in bc of the feel good story - dumped from GF one year AA the next - he missed 2-3 games FFS dont they count when in direct comparison to someone like Lids and Scotland who average about 26 pssies a game????
get stuffed
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cbf doing the stats thing but Rance statistically better than Scarlett this year. And no Rance is not AA calibre yet.
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The footy public aren't happy with the All-Australian side chosen either. A fair few mentions about how Lids should be in the side on a HBF instead of Murphy.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/six-collingwood-players-named-in-all-australian-team/comments-e6frf9jf-1226141118853
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Luke Darcy who I am assuming is a selector said last night (One Week at A Time) that Petrie has been selected as the 2nd/ruckman forward :o
As I said funny stuff
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Leon Davis 100% earnt the right to be in the side.
Outstanding season
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Luke Darcy who I am assuming is a selector said last night (One Week at A Time) that Petrie has been selected as the 2nd/ruckman forward :o
As I said funny stuff
I have no idea how Luke Darcy is held in such high regard.
That crap he spouted about Leading Teams and the Bulldogs was embarrassing. He writes dumb-ass articles on AFL.com.au and he's in charge of picking the best players for the year??!! >:(
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What hurts Lids' chances in these awards is he is moreso a highly consistent performer rather than someone who stands out as a clear matchwinner. Even within the Tiges' list we can think of games where Jack won games off his own boot kicking a bag and taking speckies, Dusty destroying North (round 5) and Melbourne as a goalkicking midfielder who can go forward, and of course Cotch's class in the midfield winning stacks of clearances. Lids on the other hand will cop criticism because he's a HBFer. Lids has had many top games such as beating Goddard head-to-head in the draw but probably because we need to use him as HBF, commentators and judges in these awards who go by a 'wow-factor' overlook him. That's why I think Robert Murphy, who can kick a freakish goal and have a day out now and then, got in the AA side ahead of better and more consistent years from Lids and Scotland.
Same goes with Petrie - his speckies stand out in a mediocre and evenly mundane side.
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I think a lot of supporters fall into the trap of making that mistake with LIds too MT.
He doesn't dominate games as we think someone of his ability should, but he has a major influence of HB with his elite disposal, it's just not speccy.
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All Australian side Brownlow votes:
B: Scarlett 3 Glass 0 Enright 3
HB: R.Murphy 4 Reid 1 Davis 4
C: Thomas 10 Mitchell 30 Pendlebury 24
HF: M.Murphy 19 Cloke 13 Swan 34
F: Milne 5 Franklin 20 Goodes 19
R: Cox 18 Judd 23 Ablett 23
Int: Boyd 24, Dal Santo 28, Kelly 6, Petrie 11
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All Australian side Brownlow votes:
B: Scarlett 3 Glass 0 Enright 3
HB: R.Murphy 4 Reid 1 Davis 4
C: Thomas 10 Mitchell 30 Pendlebury 24
HF: M.Murphy 19 Cloke 13 Swan 34
F: Milne 5 Franklin 20 Goodes 19
R: Cox 18 Judd 23 Ablett 23
Int: Boyd 24, Dal Santo 28, Kelly 6, Petrie 11
Good to see the umps rewarding defenders :lol A total of 15 votes combined
Who was the highest polling defender in the Brownlow ?