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Title: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: one-eyed on May 18, 2011, 03:26:22 PM
VFL Round 8

Coburg Tigers
(0-5, 12th) vs Frankston Dolphins (0-6, 13th)


Sunday 22nd May @ Highgate Recreation reserve, Craigieburn

Ressies: 11:00 AM
Seniors: 2:00 PM


Battle for the wooden spoon this week between the two bottom sides  :-\
Title: Coburg squads vs Frankston
Post by: one-eyed on May 19, 2011, 08:00:01 PM
Coburg Tigers Seniors:

B:    Daniels       Post        Clifton

HB: Webberley   Tanner    Hislop

C:   Griffiths       Power    McErlain

HF:  Contin      Gourdis     Rayson

F:   Wheeler    Astbury      Grgic*

R:  Graham    Carnell        Nason

Int: Cartelli, Lawton, MacDonald, Derickx, Hicks, Jordan, Duhau, Morris, Hore



Coburg Tigers Reserves:

B:  Duhau   Saville    Cartelli
HB: Jordan  Lawton  McLeod
C:  Jakobi   Morris    Hicks
HF: Groves  Fahey  MacDonald
F: Masters   Hore   Dahl
R: Westhoff  K. Murphy  Barrack
Int: Lynch. Madden, D. Murphy, Collins, Stephens, Pound, Lucin, Sullivan, Price
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 19, 2011, 10:09:47 PM
Big Griff named in the seniors  :clapping

But the wing  :-\ Give it a spell  ;D
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: taztiger4 on May 19, 2011, 10:20:10 PM
Big Griff named in the seniors  :clapping

But the wing  :-\ Give it a spell  ;D

He played wing / half back in the ressies for a half first game back
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: Jackstar is back again on May 19, 2011, 10:27:52 PM
Good to see Gus back at the Burgers :thumbsup
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 19, 2011, 10:28:50 PM
Good to see Gus back at the Burgers :thumbsup

Yep great selection that  :rollin
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: one-eyed on May 20, 2011, 03:16:08 AM
Where's Morton?  ???
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 20, 2011, 06:59:59 AM
Where's Morton?  ???

Injured  ??? Who knows. As I said earlier in the week the Injury List issued by the Club is a joke
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 20, 2011, 08:47:48 AM
Good to see Gus back at the Burgers :thumbsup

Yep great selection that  :rollin

might be half decent at vfl level.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: JVT on May 20, 2011, 08:49:33 AM
Big Griff named in the seniors  :clapping

But the wing  :-\ Give it a spell  ;D
I think more run in the leg's on the wing, which means improved fitness quicker??  :P
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: wayne on May 20, 2011, 08:52:57 AM

But the wing  :-\ Give it a spell  ;D

The new Richo!
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: mightytiges on May 20, 2011, 12:31:51 PM

But the wing  :-\ Give it a spell  ;D

The new Richo!
LOL wayne.

Big Ben will be playing wing simply to get km into his legs to build up his match fitness.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: mightytiges on May 20, 2011, 12:34:28 PM
Where's Morton?  ???

Injured  ??? Who knows. As I said earlier in the week the Injury List issued by the Club is a joke
The Mortons are doing well at the moment aren't they  :P. Too think some people and even some recruiters rated Cale Morton ahead of Cotch before they were drafted :o  :lol.
Title: Re: Coburg squads vs Frankston
Post by: mightytiges on May 21, 2011, 02:39:28 PM
Coburg Tigers Seniors:

B:    Daniels       Post        Clifton

HB: Webberley   Tanner    Hislop

C:   Griffiths       Power    McErlain

HF:  Contin      Gourdis     Rayson

F:   Wheeler    Astbury      Grgic*

R:  Graham    Carnell        Nason

Int: Cartelli, Lawton, MacDonald, Derickx, Hicks, Jordan, Duhau, Morris, Hore



Coburg Tigers Reserves:

B:  Duhau   Saville    Cartelli
HB: Jordan  Lawton  McLeod
C:  Jakobi   Morris    Hicks
HF: Groves  Fahey  MacDonald
F: Masters   Hore   Dahl
R: Westhoff  K. Murphy  Barrack
Int: Lynch. Madden, D. Murphy, Collins, Stephens, Pound, Lucin, Sullivan, Price
Griffiths may need to play forward and either Goo or Astbury back in defence with Post playing for Richmond. We might also see all RFC blokes in the Coburg seniors apart from Westhoff. There's only 13 left.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: cub on May 22, 2011, 01:32:11 PM
Getting updates boys? Streaming or radio ??
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: Muscles on May 22, 2011, 02:29:34 PM
Ozrobbo on Twitter says the burger twos won 14.25.109 to 4.6.30. No further details.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: Muscles on May 22, 2011, 02:33:30 PM
Quarter time in the seniors. @ozrobbo says Burgers had the wind and lead 4.2.26 to 2.3.15

Goals to Cartelli, Hicks, Gourdis, Hislop
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: one-eyed on May 22, 2011, 02:51:54 PM
Cheers for that Muscles.

No surprise there's a breeze advantage at Craigieburn (http://envisage247.com/Smileys/envisage247/tumbleweed.gif)
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: one-eyed on May 22, 2011, 02:57:58 PM
Midway 2nd qtr

Coburg   5.3-33
Frankston 5.4-34

Best RFC guys so far: Hislop, Goo and Astbury

Awful game to watch - bottom 2 teams for a reason.

WP said Griffiths playing CHF. Playing in bursts (I presume on and off the bench)
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: one-eyed on May 22, 2011, 03:06:38 PM
24 mins Q2

Coburg    5.4-34
Frankston 7.4-46

Dolphins want it more.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: Muscles on May 22, 2011, 03:11:12 PM
Half time, Burg 6.4.40, vs 7.4.46 Frankston
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: one-eyed on May 22, 2011, 03:21:44 PM
WP's bests: Hislop, Nason, Goo, webberley that qtr.

Grif getting better on for probably 15 mins that qtr,

Contin okay too.

MacDonald seems to be struggling with the pace of the game.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: Penelope on May 22, 2011, 03:26:42 PM
youd probably expect that to be the case with Mcdonald.
The run will do him more good than running around in the 3rds.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: Muscles on May 22, 2011, 04:03:33 PM
3/4 time Burgers 8.10.58, Frankston 9.5.59.  Sloppy 2 goals. courtesy ozrobbo
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: one-eyed on May 22, 2011, 04:37:49 PM
MacDonald and Hislop kicks goals in the 3rd qtr.

Bloody freezing at Craigieburn apparently. Our source has gone home lol.

Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: one-eyed on May 22, 2011, 04:39:54 PM
Frankston got out to a 19 point lead with 3 quick goals early in the last but Graham pulled one back. Last update is Coburg were 13 points down.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: Fishfinger on May 22, 2011, 04:43:53 PM
Our source has gone home lol.

Smart move to get out of there before it gets dark.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: one-eyed on May 22, 2011, 04:51:33 PM
Frankston won by 19  :(  :-[
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: one-eyed on May 22, 2011, 05:19:38 PM
Final Score

Frankston 14-9 (93) def
Coburg    10-14 (74)

Carnell & Hislop 2 goals each for Coburg
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: one-eyed on May 22, 2011, 05:32:11 PM
2011 VFL Reserves

Coburg Tigers   1.7  4.12  10.20  14.25 (109)
Frankston         0.1  2.4     3.4      4.6 (30)

GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: Murphy 4 Lynch 2 Westhoff 2 Duhau  Madden  Pound  McLeod  Murphy  Lucin
Frankston: Boland 2 Schepis  Simpson

BEST:
Coburg Tigers: Duhau Hore Masters Jakobi Murphy Collins
Frankston: Collison Rogasch Proctor Wells Bateman Sienkiewicz
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: one-eyed on May 22, 2011, 06:04:25 PM
2011 VFL Seniors

Coburg Tigers   4.2  6.4  8.10  10.14 (74)
Frankston        2.3  7.4    9.5  14.9 (93)

GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: Carnell 2 Hislop 2 Graham  MacDonald  Hicks  Webberley  Cartelli  GOURDIS
Frankston: Bitters 3 Clark 2 McCallum 2 Clements 2 Doria 2 Gabriel  Hockey  Crowe

BEST:
Coburg Tigers: Hislop Webberley Contin Power MacDonald Tanner
Frankston: Baguley Potts Gabriel Clark Thoolen

https://reg.sportingpulse.com/olr_v5/rpt_progressive.cgi?aID=4138&pg=1&a=MR
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: bojangles17 on May 22, 2011, 06:31:21 PM
two words, welcome back tommy hiss :gotigers
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: Coach on May 22, 2011, 06:33:55 PM
How about we give Webbers a game  :banghead
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 22, 2011, 06:38:37 PM
Very poor game (for the 3 qtrs I was there) by Coburg.

Sitting there today it's no surprsie they were the 2 bottom teams

MacDonald was alot better in the 3rd qtr - he is a very good kick

Tom Hislop (aka Mr Elastoplast  ;D) was the best of the RFC boys for mine.

Webberley's first qtr was average but after that he was good

Griffiths wasn't "protecting" his shoulder read wasn't worrying about it - needs a few more runs before he should be consider as he is clearly lacking match fitness but the signs were very good  :thumbsup

Good was good for the first half but dropped his efforts in the third - disappointing

And in an amazing development Gus in the 3rd actually watched the ball at the centre bounces 4 times in row  :thumbsup Miracles never cease  :rollin
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on May 22, 2011, 06:43:53 PM
Thanks WP, how did Asbury go?
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: bojangles17 on May 22, 2011, 06:46:31 PM
did hislops form warrant a senior game?
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: WA Tiger on May 22, 2011, 07:51:24 PM
two words, welcome back tommy hiss :gotigers

Two words... ;)
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 22, 2011, 09:12:23 PM
Thanks WP, how did Asbury go?

Started really well and then fell away = no impact. Actually started the 3rd qtr on the bench. Just seems to be really down on confidence

did hislops form warrant a senior game?

Hislop played a Jake King type role when forward and also spent some time in the middle - a bit like Nahas

So to answer the question.

If King or Nahas weren't playing well I'd say YES Tommy deserves a game but seeing those 2 players are playing well then I reckon the answer is NO. I don't know who else he could replace
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: bojangles17 on May 22, 2011, 09:56:20 PM
helbig is being carried at the minute...id be dropping him with a couple of things he needs to work on as in strength at the contest...he would be the obvious one but white/edwards would have designs on that spot
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 22, 2011, 10:05:26 PM
helbig is being carried at the minute...id be dropping him with a couple of things he needs to work on as in strength at the contest...he would be the obvious one but white/edwards would have designs on that spot

Exactly

Tommy's FWD role todays was clearly a King type one and Jake aint going anywhere  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: one-eyed on May 23, 2011, 04:10:54 AM
FRANKSTON won its first game of the season by upsetting Coburg Tigers by 19 points at Highgate Reserve in Craigieburn yesterday.

The competition's perennial cellar-dweller was relentless, with promising ruck prospect Russell Gabriel dominant against Richmond's Angus Graham ...

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dolphins-sink-tigers-for-first-win-20110522-1eyud.html#ixzz1N6dnWjve
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: torch on May 24, 2011, 08:44:55 PM
can someone please tell me what is going on with Coburg? also, what has happened to Morton, Connors and Derrickx?
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 24, 2011, 08:54:55 PM
can someone please tell me what is going on with Coburg? also, what has happened to Morton, Connors and Derrickx?

Connors & Morton didn't play. Connors is listed as injured with a "quad" & 3 weeks away

No idea what's the go with Morton - would assume he is injured too seeing he isn't playing

DerickX played on Sunday after having a very badly bruised heel that took about 10 weeks for him to get over. He & Gus rotated through the centre, he also spent about 10 minutes in the 3rd qtr in defence. I was only there until 3qtr time and I reckon in that time he had 60-70% game time. Certainly lacking match fitness and will need a few more games before he would be considered for AFL

As for "what is going on at Coburg" - simply they are not winning
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: SPOCK on May 24, 2011, 10:46:31 PM
can someone please tell me what is going on with Coburg? also, what has happened to Morton, Connors and Derrickx?

Very good analysis from Sparty on PRE

The problem at Coburg this year is we are playing mostly talls Post, Gourdis, Browne or Gus, big X, Thursty, Astbury, sometimes 7 or 8 RFC KPPs
the Coburg midfield is the weakest in the VFL, the RFC mids are very late draft picks or rookies.
This is why we need our own reserves side, either that or RFC must take control of Coburg
We knew we would have a lot of talls at Coburg this year, if we had our own side or control of Coburg we would have recruited 3 or 4 experienced midfielders, instead they have brought up kids to the seniors who just can not get the ball to our tall forwards or who are getting smashed at clearances and our tall backs are getting bombarded by opposition mids, the game against BoxHill was 34 to 4 centre clearances and 73 to 26 inside 50s how would you like to be a young KPP in this side

Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: eliminator on May 25, 2011, 07:04:00 AM
Good Post Spock.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Frankston, Sunday May 22
Post by: one-eyed on May 25, 2011, 12:37:35 PM
Coburg Report
By Tony Greenberg
Wed 25 May, 2011


Development coach, David Newett, provides a summary of how the Richmond-listed players performed at AFL level with Coburg in last Sunday’s clash with Frankston . . .

David Gourdis
Another solid effort in defence, up against Frankston’s tall forwards.  Made a couple of errors, but stuck to his task, overall, and fought the game out.


Jeromey Webberley
Again found plenty of the ball and used his possessions to advantage.  Was more involved defensively, with improved tackling pressure.


Robbie Hicks
Was lively early, playing his role for the team, but had little impact as the game wore on.


Pat Contin
Linked up well off half-back, breaking the lines and using the ball to the team’s advantage.  Was also solid defensively.

 

Tom Derickx
Displayed a good work rate throughout the game.  Was competitive in the ruck, in aerial contests, and at ground level.  Looking for further impact around the ground to reward his efforts. 


Tom Hislop
His third impressive performance in-a-row on the comeback trail from injury.  Worked hard throughout the game, both in the midfield and up forward.  Trademark strong tackling, along with marking, were features of his game. 

David Astbury
A solid performance in defence.  Played to structures, took some good marks, and rebounded well.


Ben Griffiths
Showed encouraging signs in his first senior VFL game of the season, with good leading and chasing pressure.  Got more involved as the game progressed.


Dean MacDonald
Acquitted himself well in his first game at senior VFL level.  Showed particularly encouraging signs with his speed and good ball use.  Took a screamer and finished off with a long goal.


Ben Nason
Provided some glimpses offensively, but was down on the output normally expected from the lively small midfielder/forward.


Angus Graham
Not the sort of response the big ruckman needed in a bid to regain his place at AFL level with Richmond.  Did provide a contest at stoppages and around the ground, but more is expected from him. 


Ben Jakobi  (Coburg reserves)
Promising signs in his second game back from injury in the reserves, playing both in defence and the midfield.


Nick Westhoff  (Coburg reserves)
Played forward, as well as behind the ball, and had an impact due to his improved work-rate and intensity.  Kicked four goals and was a valuable contributor in the reserves’ win.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/114700/default.aspx