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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on June 17, 2011, 05:55:19 AM

Title: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: mightytiges on June 17, 2011, 05:55:19 AM
Just looking at who needs a massive turnaround to impress the coaches in these last 10 or so weeks to remain at Tigerland.

Tucky, Whitey and Goo don't appear to be in Dimma's plans for 2012. The first two are in and out of the side despite now being experienced players and Goo is continually overlooked at Coburg. Mind you based on our OER contracts list they are all contracted for another year  :P.

Westhoff and Hicks as 2nd year rookies you would think are unlikely to be at Punt Rd next year as they haven't progressed out of the Coburg ressies.
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 17, 2011, 07:16:15 AM
Morton looks in trouble despite his issues
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: gerkin greg on June 17, 2011, 10:18:24 AM
Tuck
Moore
Thursfield
Graham
Morton
Connors
Gourdis
Taylor
Hicks
Westhoff
Hislop
Miller
McGuane
Post
White
Nason
Webberley
Browne
Contin
Jackson
Edwards
Farmer

All either closing in on the edge, on the edge, over the edge or already a corpse rotting at the bottom of a cliff.
Can't see anyone outside that list getting the ass this year. Everyone from Miller up is in real kaka.
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: Loui Tufga on June 17, 2011, 10:50:38 AM
Tuck
Moore
Thursfield
Graham
Morton
Connors
Gourdis
Taylor
Hicks
Westhoff
Hislop
Miller
McGuane
Post
White
Nason
Webberley
Browne
Contin
Jackson
Edwards
Farmer

All either closing in on the edge, on the edge, over the edge or already a corpse rotting at the bottom of a cliff.
Can't see anyone outside that list getting the ass this year. Everyone from Miller up is in real kaka.

I recon Edwards is safe and Farmer is the teachers pet but your right about the rest ;) ;)
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: JVT on June 17, 2011, 10:52:06 AM
Tuck
Moore
Thursfield
Graham
Morton
Connors
Gourdis
Taylor
Hicks
Westhoff
Hislop
Miller
McGuane
Post
White
Nason
Webberley
Browne
Contin
Jackson
Edwards
Farmer

All either closing in on the edge, on the edge, over the edge or already a corpse rotting at the bottom of a cliff.
Can't see anyone outside that list getting the ass this year. Everyone from Miller up is in real kaka.
Spot on, I would exclude only Edwards and Jackson from your list, shocking how long it is.
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: Mr Magic on June 17, 2011, 11:02:31 AM
Edwards is safe but that list shows just how far we have to go.
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: The Big Richo on June 17, 2011, 11:42:02 AM
Tuck
Moore
Thursfield
Graham
Morton
Connors
Gourdis
Taylor
Hicks
Westhoff
Hislop
Miller
McGuane
Post
White
Nason
Webberley
Browne
Contin
Jackson
Edwards
Farmer

All either closing in on the edge, on the edge, over the edge or already a corpse rotting at the bottom of a cliff.
Can't see anyone outside that list getting the ass this year. Everyone from Miller up is in real kaka.

Good list, Gerks. And people think you are just a mere chicken spanker.  ???

Jackson has to the one to trade I reckon.

Our mid-field has gone past him and he would have some value to a team like GWS or GOld Coast as a much better, younger version of a Danile Harris type.

Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: one-eyed on June 17, 2011, 11:57:35 AM
Here's what we have as our Contracts List:

2011: Astbury, Browne, Dea, Farmer, Grimes, Griffiths, Jackson, King, Morton, Nahas, Nason, Newman, Rance, Taylor, Thursfield, Webberley

2012: Batchelor, Connors, Deledio, Derickx, Edwards, Foley, Gourdis, Graham, Helbig, Houli, MacDonald, McGuane, Moore, Post, Tuck, Vickery, White

2013: Conca, Cotchin, Grigg, Martin, Riewoldt

Rookies: 
Jamie O'Reilly (international rookie - signed until end of 2011)
Robert Hicks (2nd year rookie)
Pat Contin (2nd year rookie)
Nick Westhoff (2nd year rookie)
Ben Jakobi (1st year rookie)
Brad Miller (mature rookie - 1st year)
Tom Hislop (1st year as a rookie)
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: gerkin greg on June 17, 2011, 12:18:11 PM
Good list, Gerks. And people think you are just a mere chicken spanker.  ???

Jackson has to the one to trade I reckon.

Our mid-field has gone past him and he would have some value to a team like GWS or GOld Coast as a much better, younger version of a Danile Harris type.

There's a lot more to chicken spanking than people realise. It's not for everyone, but if you are prepared to put in the effort to get good at it, the rewards and recognition are there.

I'd trade Jackson for anyone without a twitter account who can kick and run. Wouldn't be on the list if Cogga hadn't gone down on both knees like an alter boy at an Easter after-party.
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: Coach on June 17, 2011, 12:44:13 PM
Graham contracted for 2012. What the stuff. And Gourdis? I am a fan but how on earth could he possibly have a contract for 2012? You sure these are right?

stuffing Craig Cameron. Sack that dud and bring back Wallet as a our list manager  :lol

Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: TigerLand on June 17, 2011, 01:15:46 PM
Would want to extend Deledios contract to 2013 by the end of the season. Number 1 priority.

Aswell as resigning the skipper, Griffiths, Rance, Nahas, Grimes and Astbury. till 2012 and beyond.

King to get another contract, Browne aswell.

Dea to keep persisting with maybe 1 year contract.

Jackson, Morton, Nason, Taylor, Thursfield to be shopped around.

Webberley and Farmer probably gets another year.
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 17, 2011, 01:49:26 PM
Graham contracted for 2012. What the eff. And Gourdis? I am a fan but how on earth could he possibly have a contract for 2012? You sure these are right?

effing Craig Cameron. Sack that dud and bring back Wallet as a our list manager  :lol



would have to ask also. Are these correct? Source?

How the goo can be contracted for 2 years when he has hardly played a game is beyond me
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: gerkin greg on June 17, 2011, 01:59:57 PM
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2008/12/16/va1237346231319/Terry-Wallace-6402026.jpg)

you serious CC?
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: Con65 on June 17, 2011, 02:12:21 PM
moore definately should not be on that list...they rate him as our #1 hybrid defender (plays tall and short).

take him off the list ...
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: gerkin greg on June 17, 2011, 02:16:37 PM
take him off your own list




Edit: leave out the insult just because another poster disagrees
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: Coach on June 17, 2011, 02:44:16 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: Mr Magic on June 17, 2011, 03:15:28 PM
Moore would be on my list too. Overrated player.
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: one-eyed on June 17, 2011, 05:52:28 PM
Gourdis was drafted in the PSD in 2007 and spent a year on the senior list. He then was delisted and picked up in the rookie draft in 2008 where he spent 2009-10 on our rookie list before being promoted back to the senior list this year. Promoted rookies get 2 year contracts from memory.

Tucky signed a new deal midway through last year from memory at the same time Tambling did.
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: WA Tiger on June 17, 2011, 10:55:05 PM
Gourdis was drafted in the PSD in 2007 and spent a year on the senior list. He then was delisted and picked up in the rookie draft in 2008 where he spent 2009-10 on our rookie list before being promoted back to the senior list this year. Promoted rookies get 2 year contracts from memory.

Gee thats just a sad story isn't it but one that is all too familiar at the RFC. 4 years for no return, list clogger and a player considered by some as our .."depth". Add Post as well I suppose.
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: Coach on June 17, 2011, 10:56:50 PM
Isn't it Posts 3rd season? Bit harsh. Took Kel Moore 5 years before he was consistent at AFL level
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: WA Tiger on June 17, 2011, 11:11:52 PM
Isn't it Posts 3rd season? Bit harsh. Took Kel Moore 5 years before he was consistent at AFL level

Can you see Post making it, honestly Davey??.....I would to see it but I can't, hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: Coach on June 17, 2011, 11:15:34 PM
I'm not sure man. Has ability and I'd be willing to give him more time if he's willing to put in the hard yards. It will be interesting to see where he fits into the side in future. Astbury the future CHB apparently, Jack FF, Griff CHF...and stuff knows who will be our full back in a couple of years. Posty has a challenge ahead of him
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: WA Tiger on June 17, 2011, 11:24:17 PM
I'm not sure man. Has ability and I'd be willing to give him more time if he's willing to put in the hard yards. It will be interesting to see where he fits into the side in future. Astbury the future CHB apparently, Jack FF, Griff CHF...and eff knows who will be our full back in a couple of years. Posty has a challenge ahead of him

Yeah agree he does have a challenge ahead and he has had a chalenge for 3 years now too.....Mmmm, jury out at the moment, I really thought he would have played more games up until now though, but hey who knows whats around the corner. There is one thing for sure though, he can't get a better chance than this Saturday night can he.
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: mightytiges on June 18, 2011, 02:14:56 AM
The problem for Kel is most of his career he has been injured. He was drafted as a rookie at the end of 2002 and really only in 2008 and in parts of 2010 has he been able to play some good footy.

As for Goo - after playing the last 3 games last year and earning promotion back onto the senior list he should have already played at least some senior games so far this year if he was going to make it and survive the cull at the end of the season. It's not as though we haven't needed a big key back. Sadly for Dave his unreliable footskills have always been the issue.

Postie was drafted the year after Goo (same year as Vickery) so next year his 4th will be critical for him. If Postie is still basically where he is then it'll be hard to see him survive on our list post-2012.
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: mightytiges on June 18, 2011, 02:25:16 AM
Tuck
Moore
Thursfield
Graham
Morton
Connors
Gourdis
Taylor
Hicks
Westhoff
Hislop
Miller
McGuane
Post
White
Nason
Webberley
Browne
Contin
Jackson
Edwards
Farmer

All either closing in on the edge, on the edge, over the edge or already a corpse rotting at the bottom of a cliff.
Can't see anyone outside that list getting the ass this year. Everyone from Miller up is in real kaka.
Early days for BrownE as young big rucks can look totally unco at 20 as anyone who saw a young Benny Gale play will testify and maybe one or two other youngins will improve to the decent level in time. Apart from that that list isn't far off and shows we are still a long way off with our rebuild and why we need to go back to the well (draft) and bring in more young talent who are classier than most of the players we have now. To cull most of that list will take 2-3 draft periods as you'd expect with GWS hogging this upcoming draft our ability to cull large numbers again will be limited.
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 18, 2011, 03:09:47 AM
Hicks. - playing3rds
Taylor. - left. 
Contin. - coburg mids losing. 
Westhoff. - rubbish.   
Nason. - small. 
Gourdis. - so many key defence chances missed 
Farmer. - meh.
Connors. - injuryform
Webberly. - coach doesn't pick him. 
Hislop. - rookie
Derickx. - injuryform. 
Graham. - rubbish
White.
Mcgaune.
Morton.
Thusty
Moore.
Miller.
Tuck.





Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: Dice on June 18, 2011, 06:15:03 AM
take him off your own list
  ;D

Can't believe you've got Contin on that list Gerk ?

 
Title: Re: It's not looking good for ...?
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on June 18, 2011, 07:54:11 AM
Tuck - se ya later and thank you.  
Moore - retain.
Thursfield - trade/delist
Graham- might be lucky given ruck stocks  :banghead
Morton - see ya
Connors - retain
Gourdis - would like to see him given more opportunity before a decision is made
Taylor - eff off.
Hicks - still young, but leaning toward a goodbye
Westhoff - still young.
Hislop - see ya.
Miller - see ya.
McGuane - keep as insurance for the backs.
Post- needs more chances. Can play.
White- hmmmm........
Nason- another year.
Webberley - can play. Keep.
Browne - see angus.
Contin - keep.
Jackson - retain.
Edwards- will probably be kept.
Farmer- not fussed if he goes.