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		Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: 10 FLAGS on July 16, 2011, 06:28:07 PM
		
			
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				Your top 5 SENIOR PLAYERS that you would trade or SACK! Go ahead NAME NAMES! This isnt for sacking of kids etc. JUST THE SENIOR PLAYERS THAT HAVE LET US DOWN - TIME AND TIME AGAIN!
			
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				1. Jackson
 2. Edwards
 3. McGuane
 4. White
 5. Connors
 
 
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				1- Jackson
 2- White
 3- Edwards
 4- McGuane
 5- Foley*
 
 * Only because I think we could get something for him thats quite decent.
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				Mcguane
 Edwards
 Jackson
 Foley
 Browne
 Gus
 White
 Thursfield
 Morton
 Connors
 
 Farq 5 il give u ten straight up
 
 
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				Mcguane
 Edwards
 Jackson
 Foley
 Browne
 Gus
 White
 Thursfield
 Morton
 Connors
 
 Farq 5 il give u ten straight up
 
 
 
 
 That's cheating Dan thread asked for five and all mine will be given the sack. We have nothing nobody wants. :lol :rollin :lol
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				Mcguane
 Edwards
 Jackson
 Foley
 Browne
 Gus
 White
 Thursfield
 Morton
 Connors
 
 Farq 5 il give u ten straight up
 
 
 
 
 I asked for your top 5 in order. We all know we could get rid of 20 blokes.
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				Mcguane
 Edwards
 Jackson
 Foley
 Browne
 Gus
 White
 Thursfield
 Morton
 Connors
 
 Farq 5 il give u ten straight up
 
 
 
 
 Thats the sad thing Daniel, you have gone bang with 10 straight away. I agree with all of them.
 
 How can we expect Hardwick to coach these guys to the finals.
 
 Its plain and simple, our list still needs a lot of work.
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				In 2012 wont be at Richmond.
 
 Trade or Delist (May have currency, take a packet of twisties if we can otherwise delist)
 1. Daniel Jackson (25yo)
 2. Angus Graham (24yo)
 3. Shane Edwards (22yo)
 4. Will Thursfield (25yo)
 5. Mitch Morton (24yo)
 
 Other than Edwards are all older than 24.
 
 Do not go pass Go, Do not collect $200, get stuffed.
 
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				Mcguane
 Edwards
 Jackson
 Foley
 Browne
 Gus
 White
 Thursfield
 Morton
 Connors
 
 Farq 5 il give u ten straight up
 
 
 
 
 Lets dont forget Tuck, Dea, Hislop,Gourdis
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				We can trade Foley to Geelong. There was interest there last year.
			
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				You know the sad thing is we could trade out all these 3rd rate playersand recruit top kids and I bet we'll probably still be stuffed. The culture at Punt Road is rooted good and proper.
			
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				Including rookies?
 Rookie= Westhoff
 
 Hislop
 Farmer
 Browne
 Conners
 Tuck= obviously not part of the coaches plans so reluctantly must go!
 
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				1. Newman     keep
 2. Thursfield   delist
 3. Deledio       keep
 4. Martin         keep
 6. Grigg          will be kept
 8. Jack            keep
 9. Cotch          keep
 10.Edwards    trade (don't know contract status) if ends this year and can't trade delist
 12. Astbury    keep
 13. MIller        delist
 14. Houli        keep
 15. Farmer     trade/delist
 16. McGuane  trade/delist
 18. Rance       keep
 19. Connors    trade/delist
 20. Morton      trade/delist
 21. Tuck         delist
 22. Nason      delist
 23. Jackson    delist
 25. Graham   delist
 26. Nahas trade see what we can get if nothing then I guess he can stay
 27. Hislop      delist
 28. King         keep
 29. Vickery    keep
 30. Conca      keep
 31. Batchelor keep
 32. Helbig      keep
 33. Gourdis    delist
 34. Browne    delist
 35. White       delist
 36. Macdonald keep
 37. Post           keep
 38. Griffiths     keep
 39. Derickx     keep
 40. Moore        keep
 41. Foley         trade or keep
 46. Webberley  who knows I say delist shown nothing this year and has played regular footy.
 
 Of course this is my opinion but all this says is just reiterate how glaring the holes in our list are.
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				Can't be bothered naming them all... But dare I say my top 5 would include Reiwoldt.
			
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				You know the sad thing is we could trade out all these 3rd rate playersand recruit top kids and I bet we'll probably still be stuffed. The culture at Punt Road is rooted good and proper.
 
 
 Correct !
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				You know the sad thing is we could trade out all these 3rd rate playersand recruit top kids and I bet we'll probably still be stuffed. The culture at Punt Road is rooted good and proper.
 
 
 Correct !
 
 
 so does a culture that is so bad get fixed? its one hell of a job IMHO.
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				Can we sack the bloke who sells our home games? I know we do it  for coin but wins bring the cash in too!
 We should have beaten them anywhere but i think we need to learn how to win at home before we try somewhere else!
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				Eff you all. I'll give you the Dirty Dozen:- 
 
 Jackson, Thursfield, McGone, Farmer, Herslop, White, Browne, Graham, Webberley, Connors, Morton, Edwards.
 
 Yes sir, its a roll call of the mentally fragile, the pea hearted and those who sit down to pee.
 
 And that's not even counting guys like Tuck, Miller and JON Mk II who we know won't be there next year.
 
 Depressing.
 
 I'm off for the mother of all binge eating sessions.
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				Can we sack the bloke who sells our home games?  :clapping
 1.Jackson
 2.McGuane
 3.Edwards
 4.Hislop
 5.Connors
 Without even batting an eye-lid. But as others have said, even wholesale changes to the list isn't the answer. The problem is the culture is well and truly stuffed.
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				Funny everyone going straight for McGuane. Don't get me wrong he is crap and he'll be upgraded at season's end but apart from one or two standard blunders he played one of his better games today
			
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				Funny everyone going straight for McGuane. Don't get me wrong he is crap and he'll be upgraded at season's end but apart from one or two standard blunders he played one of his better games today
 
 
 Thats the thing Black its not about today its about him and most of our players from day one.
 
 If we had won today some, actually a fair few would say Edwards, Mcguane etc etc are going good bla bla
 
 we get caught up in this insipid meaningless wins and therefore miss the bigger picture.
 
 We have about 12 players who play okay when they want but the bottom line is they are useless at this level.
 
 we hold onto them in the hope they will come good. Development at Punt road is the worst in the league thats why you have players like Thursfield who still look 12 yrs old with skinny girl arms. He belongs at Commercial Road with Bob Browne that bloke along with half of our list
 
 
 
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				Funny everyone going straight for McGuane. Don't get me wrong he is crap and he'll be upgraded at season's end but apart from one or two standard blunders he played one of his better games today
 
 
 Thats the thing Black its not about today its about him and most of our players from day one.
 
 If we had won today some, actually a fair few would say Edwards, Mcguane etc etc are going good bla bla
 
 we get caught up in this insipid meaningless wins and therefore miss the bigger picture.
 
 We have about 12 players who play okay when they want but the bottom line is they are useless at this level.
 
 we hold onto them in the hope they will come good. Development at Punt road is the worst in the league thats why you have players like Thursfield who still look 12 yrs old with skinny girl arms. He belongs at Commercial Road with Bob Browne that bloke along with half of our list
 
 
 
 
 :cheers :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
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 Thats the thing Black its not about today its about him and most of our players from day one.
 
 If we had won today some, actually a fair few would say Edwards, Mcguane etc etc are going good bla bla
 
 we get caught up in this insipid meaningless wins and therefore miss the bigger picture.
 
 
 
 You're right and the club would know it too you'd hope. We'll cut deep into the list again and hopefully trade wisely
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				Jackson
 King
 Nahas
 White
 Jackson
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				Jackson
 King
 Nahas
 White
 Jackson
 
 
 Thought you were his advocate Big Fella ?
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				Jackson
 King
 Nahas
 White
 Jackson
 
 
 Thought you were his advocate Big Fella ?
 
 
 Why do you think he wasn't in all 5 spots?  ;)
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				White
 Jackson
 Thursfield
 Browne
 Graham
 
 I would look at trading out Foley & Edwards as i am sick of the turnover kings hurting us week after week. :banghead
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				Thursfield - Trade/Delist
 Edwards - Trade/Delist
 Miller - Delist
 Farmer - Delist
 McGuane - Trade/Delist
 Connors - Trade/Delist
 Tuck - Trade/Delist
 Jackson - Trade/Delist
 Graham - Trade/Delist
 Hislop - Delist
 Gourdis - Delist
 Browne - Trade/Delist
 Foley - Trade/Delist
 Taylor - Delist
 Webberley - Delist
 
 King, Nason, Nahas, White ...
 
 Nahas takes the game on - Keep
 White has pace but is used in the wrong position - Keep
 King has lots the plot - Trade
 Nason needs to break into the team - Trade/Delist
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				1. Jackson
 2. Edwards
 3. McGuane
 4. White
 5. Connors
 
 
 
 
 umm connors aint playing ::)...tbh we'd be a much better side with the likes of him and MM in it
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				1. Jackson
 2. Edwards
 3. McGuane
 4. White
 5. Connors
 
 
 
 
 umm connors aint playing ::)...tbh we'd be a much better side with the likes of him and MM in it
 
 
 Connors is undisciplined and Morton drifts in and out like the tide. Where is the consistency. If we are going to judge a player on our list in reference to Connors for five years as he debuted in 2007 has played 20 odd games out of about 90 since his debut in Geelong in Round 18 2007 and you still claim we'd be a better side....... Kid has had his chances injuries form discipline has let him and the club down thems are the breaks. Had enough of this hanging on to what ifs who have talent show little been on the list forever and a day in the hope they might take us to the big dance one day. Pass if he is so good, trade him and let someone else invest what we have for the paltry return. I for one have had enough of him.
 
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				Can we sack the bloke who sells our home games?  
 So you want to sack Benny Gale  ;D
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				26. Nahas trade see what we can get if nothing then I guess he can stay
 
 
 
 He was our best player against the Gold Coast, without him we would have lost by even more!!!
 
 Thank god your not on list management.
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				26. Nahas trade see what we can get if nothing then I guess he can stay
 
 
 
 He was our best player against the Gold Coast, without him we would have lost by even more!!!
 
 Thank god your not on list management.
 
 
 It seems youve never invested on the stockmarket. Buy Low and Sell High especially for non core assets.  ;D
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				depends on what is offered up for him tidy man. very few players you wouldn't trade for the right price, just that in many cases what would make it worth while would never be offered.
			
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				TOP 5 GONE
 
 miller
 hislop
 tuck
 taylor
 graham
 
 TRADE
 
 thursfield(unlucky)
 moore
 
 OTHERS IN TROUBLE(MAYBE 3 WILL GO)
 
 gourdis
 edwards
 nason
 white
 farmer
 nahas
 jackson
 
 10 player cleanout will do.
 
 If we could pick up Clarke(freo) and Hampson(carlton) while keeping our first pick for a gun midfielder we'll be much better off
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				26. Nahas trade see what we can get if nothing then I guess he can stay
 
 
 
 He was our best player against the Gold Coast, without him we would have lost by even more!!!
 
 Thank god your not on list management.
 
 
 Long term he is taking us nowhere. A few good games sprinkled here and there won't benefit the RFC long term. Sell him now while we may get something for him.
 Short term pain long term gain.
 Next time we make finals circa 2 or 3 years from now trust me he won't be on the list.
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				Connors is undisciplined and Morton drifts in and out like the tide. Where is the consistency. If we are going to judge a player on our list in reference to Connors for five years as he debuted in 2007 has played 20 odd games out of about 90 since his debut in Geelong in Round 18 2007 and you still claim we'd be a better side....... Kid has had his chances injuries form discipline has let him and the club down thems are the breaks. Had enough of this hanging on to what ifs who have talent show little been on the list forever and a day in the hope they might take us to the big dance one day. Pass if he is so good, trade him and let someone else invest what we have for the paltry return. I for one have had enough of him.
 
 
 I agree Tux , Connors and Morton are lazy and undisciplined. Delist