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Title: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: 10 FLAGS on July 16, 2011, 06:28:07 PM
Your top 5 SENIOR PLAYERS that you would trade or SACK! Go ahead NAME NAMES! This isnt for sacking of kids etc. JUST THE SENIOR PLAYERS THAT HAVE LET US DOWN - TIME AND TIME AGAIN!
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 16, 2011, 06:32:00 PM
1. Jackson
2. Edwards
3. McGuane
4. White
5. Connors
 
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: 10 FLAGS on July 16, 2011, 06:33:23 PM
1- Jackson
2- White
3- Edwards
4- McGuane
5- Foley*

* Only because I think we could get something for him thats quite decent.
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 16, 2011, 06:33:30 PM
Mcguane
Edwards
Jackson
Foley
Browne
Gus
White
Thursfield
Morton
Connors

Farq 5 il give u ten straight up

Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 16, 2011, 06:34:54 PM
Mcguane
Edwards
Jackson
Foley
Browne
Gus
White
Thursfield
Morton
Connors

Farq 5 il give u ten straight up



That's cheating Dan thread asked for five and all mine will be given the sack. We have nothing nobody wants. :lol :rollin :lol
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: 10 FLAGS on July 16, 2011, 06:35:02 PM
Mcguane
Edwards
Jackson
Foley
Browne
Gus
White
Thursfield
Morton
Connors

Farq 5 il give u ten straight up



I asked for your top 5 in order. We all know we could get rid of 20 blokes.
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: TFL on July 16, 2011, 06:36:40 PM
Mcguane
Edwards
Jackson
Foley
Browne
Gus
White
Thursfield
Morton
Connors

Farq 5 il give u ten straight up



Thats the sad thing Daniel, you have gone bang with 10 straight away. I agree with all of them.

How can we expect Hardwick to coach these guys to the finals.

Its plain and simple, our list still needs a lot of work.
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: TigerLand on July 16, 2011, 06:38:16 PM
In 2012 wont be at Richmond.

Trade or Delist (May have currency, take a packet of twisties if we can otherwise delist)
1. Daniel Jackson (25yo)
2. Angus Graham (24yo)
3. Shane Edwards (22yo)
4. Will Thursfield (25yo)
5. Mitch Morton (24yo)

Other than Edwards are all older than 24.

Do not go pass Go, Do not collect $200, get stuffed.
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Jackstar is back again on July 16, 2011, 06:38:38 PM
Mcguane
Edwards
Jackson
Foley
Browne
Gus
White
Thursfield
Morton
Connors

Farq 5 il give u ten straight up



Lets dont forget Tuck, Dea, Hislop,Gourdis
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 16, 2011, 06:38:53 PM
We can trade Foley to Geelong. There was interest there last year.
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: 10 FLAGS on July 16, 2011, 06:40:17 PM
You know the sad thing is we could trade out all these 3rd rate playersand recruit top kids and I bet we'll probably still be stuffed. The culture at Punt Road is rooted good and proper.
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Go Richo 12 on July 16, 2011, 06:42:38 PM
Including rookies?
Rookie= Westhoff

Hislop
Farmer
Browne
Conners
Tuck= obviously not part of the coaches plans so reluctantly must go!
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 16, 2011, 06:51:00 PM
1. Newman     keep
2. Thursfield   delist
3. Deledio       keep
4. Martin         keep
6. Grigg          will be kept
8. Jack            keep
9. Cotch          keep
10.Edwards    trade (don't know contract status) if ends this year and can't trade delist
12. Astbury    keep
13. MIller        delist
14. Houli        keep
15. Farmer     trade/delist
16. McGuane  trade/delist
18. Rance       keep
19. Connors    trade/delist
20. Morton      trade/delist
21. Tuck         delist
22. Nason      delist
23. Jackson    delist
25. Graham   delist
26. Nahas trade see what we can get if nothing then I guess he can stay
27. Hislop      delist
28. King         keep
29. Vickery    keep
30. Conca      keep
31. Batchelor keep
32. Helbig      keep
33. Gourdis    delist
34. Browne    delist
35. White       delist
36. Macdonald keep
37. Post           keep
38. Griffiths     keep
39. Derickx     keep
40. Moore        keep
41. Foley         trade or keep
46. Webberley  who knows I say delist shown nothing this year and has played regular footy.

Of course this is my opinion but all this says is just reiterate how glaring the holes in our list are.
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: magic17 on July 16, 2011, 06:54:37 PM
Can't be bothered naming them all... But dare I say my top 5 would include Reiwoldt.
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Jackstar is back again on July 16, 2011, 06:57:11 PM
You know the sad thing is we could trade out all these 3rd rate playersand recruit top kids and I bet we'll probably still be stuffed. The culture at Punt Road is rooted good and proper.

Correct !
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: 10 FLAGS on July 16, 2011, 06:58:14 PM
You know the sad thing is we could trade out all these 3rd rate playersand recruit top kids and I bet we'll probably still be stuffed. The culture at Punt Road is rooted good and proper.

Correct !

so does a culture that is so bad get fixed? its one hell of a job IMHO.
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Go Richo 12 on July 16, 2011, 06:58:46 PM
Can we sack the bloke who sells our home games? I know we do it  for coin but wins bring the cash in too!
We should have beaten them anywhere but i think we need to learn how to win at home before we try somewhere else!
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on July 16, 2011, 07:33:48 PM
Eff you all. I'll give you the Dirty Dozen:-

Jackson, Thursfield, McGone, Farmer, Herslop, White, Browne, Graham, Webberley, Connors, Morton, Edwards.

Yes sir, its a roll call of the mentally fragile, the pea hearted and those who sit down to pee.

And that's not even counting guys like Tuck, Miller and JON Mk II who we know won't be there next year.

Depressing.

I'm off for the mother of all binge eating sessions.
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: RollsRoyce on July 16, 2011, 11:06:35 PM
Can we sack the bloke who sells our home games?
:clapping
1.Jackson
2.McGuane
3.Edwards
4.Hislop
5.Connors
Without even batting an eye-lid. But as others have said, even wholesale changes to the list isn't the answer. The problem is the culture is well and truly stuffed.
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Dice on July 16, 2011, 11:32:25 PM
Funny everyone going straight for McGuane. Don't get me wrong he is crap and he'll be upgraded at season's end but apart from one or two standard blunders he played one of his better games today
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 16, 2011, 11:43:19 PM
Funny everyone going straight for McGuane. Don't get me wrong he is crap and he'll be upgraded at season's end but apart from one or two standard blunders he played one of his better games today

Thats the thing Black its not about today its about him and most of our players from day one.

If we had won today some, actually a fair few would say Edwards, Mcguane etc etc are going good bla bla

we get caught up in this insipid meaningless wins and therefore miss the bigger picture.

We have about 12 players who play okay when they want but the bottom line is they are useless at this level.

we hold onto them in the hope they will come good. Development at Punt road is the worst in the league thats why you have players like Thursfield who still look 12 yrs old with skinny girl arms. He belongs at Commercial Road with Bob Browne that bloke along with half of our list


Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 17, 2011, 12:11:25 AM
Funny everyone going straight for McGuane. Don't get me wrong he is crap and he'll be upgraded at season's end but apart from one or two standard blunders he played one of his better games today

Thats the thing Black its not about today its about him and most of our players from day one.

If we had won today some, actually a fair few would say Edwards, Mcguane etc etc are going good bla bla

we get caught up in this insipid meaningless wins and therefore miss the bigger picture.

We have about 12 players who play okay when they want but the bottom line is they are useless at this level.

we hold onto them in the hope they will come good. Development at Punt road is the worst in the league thats why you have players like Thursfield who still look 12 yrs old with skinny girl arms. He belongs at Commercial Road with Bob Browne that bloke along with half of our list



:cheers :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Dice on July 17, 2011, 12:38:47 AM

Thats the thing Black its not about today its about him and most of our players from day one.

If we had won today some, actually a fair few would say Edwards, Mcguane etc etc are going good bla bla

we get caught up in this insipid meaningless wins and therefore miss the bigger picture.


You're right and the club would know it too you'd hope. We'll cut deep into the list again and hopefully trade wisely
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: The Big Richo on July 17, 2011, 12:39:48 AM
Jackson
King
Nahas
White
Jackson
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Dice on July 17, 2011, 12:42:07 AM
Jackson
King
Nahas
White
Jackson

Thought you were his advocate Big Fella ?
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: The Big Richo on July 17, 2011, 12:43:49 AM
Jackson
King
Nahas
White
Jackson

Thought you were his advocate Big Fella ?

Why do you think he wasn't in all 5 spots?  ;)
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: The Machine on July 17, 2011, 07:32:59 AM
White
Jackson
Thursfield
Browne
Graham

I would look at trading out Foley & Edwards as i am sick of the turnover kings hurting us week after week. :banghead
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: torch on July 17, 2011, 12:22:50 PM
Thursfield - Trade/Delist
Edwards - Trade/Delist
Miller - Delist
Farmer - Delist
McGuane - Trade/Delist
Connors - Trade/Delist
Tuck - Trade/Delist
Jackson - Trade/Delist
Graham - Trade/Delist
Hislop - Delist
Gourdis - Delist
Browne - Trade/Delist
Foley - Trade/Delist
Taylor - Delist
Webberley - Delist

King, Nason, Nahas, White ...

Nahas takes the game on - Keep
White has pace but is used in the wrong position - Keep
King has lots the plot - Trade
Nason needs to break into the team - Trade/Delist








Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: bojangles17 on July 17, 2011, 12:54:09 PM
1. Jackson
2. Edwards
3. McGuane
4. White
5. Connors
 


umm connors aint playing ::)...tbh we'd be a much better side with the likes of him and MM in it
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 17, 2011, 01:15:24 PM
1. Jackson
2. Edwards
3. McGuane
4. White
5. Connors
 


umm connors aint playing ::)...tbh we'd be a much better side with the likes of him and MM in it

Connors is undisciplined and Morton drifts in and out like the tide. Where is the consistency. If we are going to judge a player on our list in reference to Connors for five years as he debuted in 2007 has played 20 odd games out of about 90 since his debut in Geelong in Round 18 2007 and you still claim we'd be a better side....... Kid has had his chances injuries form discipline has let him and the club down thems are the breaks. Had enough of this hanging on to what ifs who have talent show little been on the list forever and a day in the hope they might take us to the big dance one day. Pass if he is so good, trade him and let someone else invest what we have for the paltry return. I for one have had enough of him.
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 17, 2011, 06:11:48 PM
Can we sack the bloke who sells our home games?

So you want to sack Benny Gale  ;D
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: tdy on July 17, 2011, 06:42:06 PM
26. Nahas trade see what we can get if nothing then I guess he can stay


He was our best player against the Gold Coast, without him we would have lost by even more!!!

Thank god your not on list management.
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: 10 FLAGS on July 17, 2011, 06:43:07 PM
26. Nahas trade see what we can get if nothing then I guess he can stay


He was our best player against the Gold Coast, without him we would have lost by even more!!!

Thank god your not on list management.

It seems youve never invested on the stockmarket. Buy Low and Sell High especially for non core assets.  ;D
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Penelope on July 17, 2011, 06:46:52 PM
depends on what is offered up for him tidy man. very few players you wouldn't trade for the right price, just that in many cases what would make it worth while would never be offered.
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on July 17, 2011, 06:57:34 PM
TOP 5 GONE

miller
hislop
tuck
taylor
graham

TRADE

thursfield(unlucky)
moore

OTHERS IN TROUBLE(MAYBE 3 WILL GO)

gourdis
edwards
nason
white
farmer
nahas
jackson

10 player cleanout will do.

If we could pick up Clarke(freo) and Hampson(carlton) while keeping our first pick for a gun midfielder we'll be much better off
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 17, 2011, 07:03:17 PM
26. Nahas trade see what we can get if nothing then I guess he can stay


He was our best player against the Gold Coast, without him we would have lost by even more!!!

Thank god your not on list management.

Long term he is taking us nowhere. A few good games sprinkled here and there won't benefit the RFC long term. Sell him now while we may get something for him.
Short term pain long term gain. 
Next time we make finals circa 2 or 3 years from now trust me he won't be on the list.
Title: Re: 5 SENIOR PLAYERS YOU'd TRADE OR SACK!
Post by: Dice on July 17, 2011, 08:06:48 PM
Connors is undisciplined and Morton drifts in and out like the tide. Where is the consistency. If we are going to judge a player on our list in reference to Connors for five years as he debuted in 2007 has played 20 odd games out of about 90 since his debut in Geelong in Round 18 2007 and you still claim we'd be a better side....... Kid has had his chances injuries form discipline has let him and the club down thems are the breaks. Had enough of this hanging on to what ifs who have talent show little been on the list forever and a day in the hope they might take us to the big dance one day. Pass if he is so good, trade him and let someone else invest what we have for the paltry return. I for one have had enough of him.

I agree Tux , Connors and Morton are lazy and undisciplined. Delist