One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 28, 2011, 10:54:24 PM
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Barrett has run out of linking players to us so now he's onto coaches lol.
Anyway he started by saying there's been a push by someone close to Voss to get Neil Craig up to Brisbane as director of coaching. He then said Richmond is also interested in Neil Craig to help out Hardwick. There is and will be many clubs interested in Craig.
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You want to get noticed as a 'journo' just throw the Tigers into the mix. :P
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I actually broke this story right here.
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I actually broke this story right here.
That you did big fella, I was thinking it when he stepped down so does that mean I can jump on board as well??
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I reckon it would be a very good move in that we could use his expertise on other areas (eg sports science & fitness). He bascially could run the fitness based side of pre-season
Seriously have you seen the size of the players that have been under his watch at Adelaide? Where we have "face washers & tea towels" they have bricks ;D
:thumbsup
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I watch crows up close vs Richmond preseason and they are massive.
Would love Craig in the bomber Thompson role
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Make it happen CC
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Barrett has run out of linking players to us so now he's onto coaches lol.
Anyway he started by saying there's been a push by someone close to Voss to get Neil Craig up to Brisbane as director of coaching. He then said Richmond is also interested in Neil Craig to help out Hardwick. There is and will be many clubs interested in Craig.
LMFAO
The someone close to Voss is Parkin, who was part of the review up there, and the reason I know that is because Parkin came out himself and said it yesterday ::)
Classic ratboy "scoop"
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I reckon it would be a very good move in that we could use his expertise on other areas (eg sports science & fitness). He bascially could run the fitness based side of pre-season
Seriously have you seen the size of the players that have been under his watch at Adelaide? Where we have "face washers & tea towels" they have bricks ;D
:thumbsup
I actually agree WP 100%.
Adelaide list while not horrible is filled with players that need to much "baby-ing" - Tambling, Walker, Tippet etc. Plus have no on field leadership. Was always going to be a big ask this year with seemingly no support to play the kids and rebuild. It was all or nothing this year with Bickley and Goodwin circling.
But previous years when there list was healthy Craig was lauded for being one of the best coaches going around with his expert sports science, fitness and recovery knowledge. He can never compete tactically with the likes of Malthouse and Thompson but has some serious strengths to offer.
I'd welcome his arrival.
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Barrett has run out of linking players to us so now he's onto coaches lol.
Anyway he started by saying there's been a push by someone close to Voss to get Neil Craig up to Brisbane as director of coaching. He then said Richmond is also interested in Neil Craig to help out Hardwick. There is and will be many clubs interested in Craig.
LMFAO
The someone close to Voss is Parkin, who was part of the review up there, and the reason I know that is because Parkin came out himself and said it yesterday ::)
Classic ratboy "scoop"
And here is it about Parkin...
FORMER Adelaide coach Neil Craig may take up a senior assistant coaching role interstate, The Age reports.
Craig, who remains on staff with the Crows after a new arrangement was reached earlier this year, was believed to be reluctant to leave Adelaide but AFL Coaches' Association president David Parkin said the recently-resigned Adelaide boss would be prepared to look at any opportunity.
''He will be prepared to move, I have no doubt about that," Parkin said.
Speculation has arisen that Craig could find himself in Brisbane in 2012 with Parkin linking with the Lions in June to join a panel to assess the club's coaching structure.
That panel recommended a two-year contract extension for current coach Michael Voss, a recommendation that has not yet been actioned with The Age reporting "there are board members who still have concerns about his willingness to delegate to assistants".
An assistant of Craig's experience and knowledge may give Voss the confidence to delegate more to his fellow coaches.
Craig is currently on holidays and will discuss his future with the Crows at the end of the season.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/119691/default.aspx
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I reckon it would be a very good move in that we could use his expertise on other areas (eg sports science & fitness). He bascially could run the fitness based side of pre-season
Seriously have you seen the size of the players that have been under his watch at Adelaide? Where we have "face washers & tea towels" they have bricks ;D
:thumbsup
Like your thinking WP :thumbsup
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Im a supporter of this potential move. Give him a wider role to assist Hardwick and to take charge of Fitness and Sports Science down at the club. Our players have for 2 decades looked like skinny runts that dont know where the Gym is. We have the ME Bank Centre at least get in a bloke who will know how to run the sport science part/fitness/development part of it.
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would be a top move, this fella is a revered figure in football circles...it would be a big coup :pray
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Barrett said tonight we are very keen on Neil Craig coming in in an assistant role to help out Hardwick. We are going to have a meeting with Craig within the next month. It's a battle between us and Brisbane for Craig's services.
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Barrett said tonight we are very keen on Neil Craig coming in in an assistant role to help out Hardwick. We are going to have a meeting with Craig within the next month. It's a battle between us and Brisbane for Craig's services.
Get it over the line Tigers :pray
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Neil Craig would be good :thumbsup
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I'd be amazed if we could get him to the club. A massive coup for Brendon Gale if he can do it. Get rid of the fitness blokes at the club and put Craig in Charge with the added responsibility of assisting Hardwick.
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I'd be amazed if we could get him to the club. A massive coup for Brendon Gale if he can do it. Get rid of the fitness blokes at the club and put Craig in Charge with the added responsibility of assisting Hardwick.
I said a while back I will know we are on the right track if we finally land a big respectable fish. Craig is one. If we get beaten by brisbane for his services then we're in real poo
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Would be a good move. Craig very intelligent man
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I said a while back I will know we are on the right track if we finally land a big respectable fish. Craig is one. If we get beaten by brisbane for his services then we're in real poo
Unless he really likes the QLD lifestyle. Not a lot you can do about that.
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The last time we had a coup was 2004 when we signed up Wallet.
The last time before that was when Lockett was apparently coming to Richmond in 1994 and the AFL stepped in.
Considering the type of club we have been for a long time Craig to RFC would be an off field coup of monumental proportions given his integrity ability and experience at Adelaide for many years prior to his appointment as coach. Dates back to Blight I think.
Benny get it done no ifs and butts. If he chooses Brissy or anybody else over us so be it but if we don't look into this and make a serious play then I feel that's poor by the club and an indictment to the fans who the club have asked to fit the bill to pay off the debt as a blueprint of club success.
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Richmond FC needs serious football people in its organisation and Neil Craig is a serious football person. Lets hope we see him at Punt Road next year.
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he has more integrity than bailey, thats for sure.
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The last time we had a coup was 2004 when we signed up Wallet.
The last time before that was when Lockett was apparently coming to Richmond in 1994 and the AFL stepped in.
Considering the type of club we have been for a long time Craig to RFC would be an off field coup of monumental proportions given his integrity ability and experience at Adelaide for many years prior to his appointment as coach. Dates back to Blight I think.
Benny get it done no ifs and butts. If he chooses Brissy or anybody else over us so be it but if we don't look into this and make a serious play then I feel that's poor by the club and an indictment to the fans who the club have asked to fit the bill to pay off the debt as a blueprint of club success.
Great call. It would show we are serious about building this club properly.
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The fact that Mitchy Farmer and my man Benny Nase have hardly played this year show we aint ready to taste success. pathetic :banghead
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The fact that Mitchy Farmer and my man Benny Nase have hardly played this year show we aint ready to taste success. pathetic :banghead
with the greatest respect the fact that you actually think Nase will improve our club is quite comical.
Nase is a perfect example of why we are the joke of many a clubs in the AFL. Skinny Flanker who gets pushed aside by almost every other player in the AFL
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Snip! Please leave the lengthy friendly personal chit-chats to PMs so the topic of the thread doesn't get lost for others reading it. Now back to the topic ....
Neil Craig talks with Michael Voss about joining Brisbane Lions coaching staff
Greg Davis
From: The Courier-Mail
August 06, 2011
LIONS officials have held a three-hour meeting with former Adelaide senior coach Neil Craig who made a flying visit to Brisbane yesterday.
Craig sat down with senior coach Michael Voss and general manager of football operations Dean Warren to discuss a possible director of coaching role with the Lions.
Warren approached Craig last week, only days after he resigned from his post at the Crows after 165 games in the Adelaide hotseat.
He will touch base with the former Crows mentor again next week.
In a coincidental twist, Brisbane hosts Adelaide at the Gabba tomorrow.
Warren said the Lions would "leave no stone unturned" to improve the club and Craig would provide invaluable experience to Brisbane from both a football and sports science perspective.
The veteran of 321 games as a player in the SANFL took the reins at Adelaide midway through 2004 after being the club's fitness coach for the 1997 and 1998 flags.
But job descriptions, official titles, salaries and formal offers were not on the menu at lunch yesterday.
"When I contacted Neil I said we're keen as a footy club to make sure we have the very best coaching structure in place and we'd love to have a chat about what his future might look like," Warren said.
"He said he was still really passionate about being involved at AFL level, not as a senior coach but at an elite level.
"It went really well.
"We discussed a few things that we are thinking about from a structure point of view. We asked him plenty of questions, he asked us plenty of questions.
"We'll touch base again next week and see how he feels about things.
"He's got so much to offer with his experience and knowledge. Not just for our senior coaches but for our development coaches and academy coaches."
Craig is still on salary with the Crows and was given three months leave after his resignation. He told the club he was "bored" after just two days and asked to come back to work.
Adelaide chief executive Steve Trigg said the club would not stand in Craig's way if he opted to leave the Crows.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/neil-craig-talks-with-michael-voss-about-joining-brisbane-lions-coaching-staff/story-e6frepf6-1226109362570
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Richmond will seek Craig in the next month to advance the support team around coach Damien Hardwick.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/craig-and-melbourne-match-made-in-heaven/story-fn83zgrc-1226110707103
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The AFL will probably decide he should go to Brisbane and help make that happen.. wouldn't be the first, or second or third time we got the shaft so some other side could benefit.
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Richmond will seek Craig in the next month to advance the support team around coach Damien Hardwick.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/craig-and-melbourne-match-made-in-heaven/story-fn83zgrc-1226110707103
Why are brisbane having 2 meetings with Craig inside a week and Richmond is waiting till next month for their 1st? ???
RFC = :sleep :sleep :sleep
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The last time we had a coup was 2004 when we signed up Wallet.
The last time before that was when Lockett was apparently coming to Richmond in 1994 and the AFL stepped in.
Considering the type of club we have been for a long time Craig to RFC would be an off field coup of monumental proportions given his integrity ability and experience at Adelaide for many years prior to his appointment as coach. Dates back to Blight I think.
Missed what i reckon was the biggest coup of recent years.
Dr Jeff Bond from the AIS to Richmond as Head of Learning.
Now I wonder what happened there?
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Fox Sports reporting that Neil Craig flew/is flying into Melbourne to meet with Richmond and the AFL.
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Fox Sports reporting that Neil Craig flew/is flying into Melbourne to meet with Richmond and the AFL.
Hmmm ;) ;)
;D
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The last time we had a coup was 2004 when we signed up Wallet.
The last time before that was when Lockett was apparently coming to Richmond in 1994 and the AFL stepped in.
Considering the type of club we have been for a long time Craig to RFC would be an off field coup of monumental proportions given his integrity ability and experience at Adelaide for many years prior to his appointment as coach. Dates back to Blight I think.
Missed what i reckon was the biggest coup of recent years.
Dr Jeff Bond from the AIS to Richmond as Head of Learning.
Now I wonder what happened there?
that bloody waste of space, what a joke he was :lol
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Fox Sports reporting that Neil Craig flew/is flying into Melbourne to meet with Richmond and the AFL.
Hmmm ;) ;)
;D
Spill your guts WP what do you know about this that the rest of us dont. ;D
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I recon Dimma should be screaming from the rafters to get Neil Craig to Tigerland- otherwise Dimma may not have a job come September next year... Dimma needs help and i hope he is big enough to know it.
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Footy Classified tonight showed vision of Craig at the airport. Caro also said Craig was in Melbourne today visiting Richmond.
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Yep, have to get him I think, I was keen on getting old mate Bailey from Melbourne but Craig would be the better choice..
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Spill your guts WP what do you know about this that the rest of us dont. ;D
Seems like Caro covered it last night ;D ;)
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I bet the AFL "help" him to Brisbane... the stuffing wankers have interfered before... I can smell it in the air...
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I bet the AFL "help" him to Brisbane... the stuffing wankers have interfered before... I can smell it in the air...
I cannot see the AFL interfering here..... except if it was GWS or the Suns ;D
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According to todays HUN we're out of the running for Craig (already) ::)
Its between the Lions and the AFL
so sick and tired of this club being unable to attract good strong footy ppl. Obviously and CLEARLY, the whole industry(except for our supporters) sees that the club is so far off the pace its not worth the effort.
stuff off!
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According to todays HUN we're out of the running for Craig (already) ::)
Its between the Lions and the AFL
so sick and tired of this club being unable to attract good strong footy ppl. Obviously and CLEARLY, the whole industry(except for our supporters) sees that the club is so far off the pace its not worth the effort.
stuff off!
would have to agree here.
when Scotty Waters and Clayton were up for grabs we were found wanting yet again. Why we never really went after Balme is beyond belief.
Our biggest coup in the last 5 years has been the tanned one and what a farce that was.
we are a club for the unemployed and it wouldnt surprise me one bit if the best we can come up with come seasons end is Mark Blake and Dean Bailey
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so sick and tired of this club being unable to attract good strong footy ppl. Obviously and CLEARLY, the whole industry(except for our supporters) sees that the club is so far off the pace its not worth the effort.
stuff off!
Dead right, been like this for a while, the best "coup" this club ever pulled off was Nathan Browm IMO, other than that every other club has managed to get either top line players, administrators or coaches to their club.......we get nothing...ever...
Hell we can't even finish down the bottom of the ladder on the right years to get the best picks, we have been duped by GC, now by GWS in the weakest draft ever and we will have pick 10 or so....
Unlucky....bad management....bad recruiting.....bloody hell who ran over the black cat about 100 times, then reversed over him 100 more.....the RFC!!!!!!!
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According to todays HUN we're out of the running for Craig (already) ::)
So because the HUN implies it; it hasd to be true then and that's the end of it
Me thinks not ;D
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Me thinks not ;D
that a hunch or does it have a solid foundation, billy?
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Me thinks not ;D
that a hunch or does it have a solid foundation, billy?
I don't put much faith in what the HUN reports al
And you could call it a bit of both.
Yes he met with the AFL but he was also meeting the Tigers as Caro mentioned on Monday night on Footy Classified.
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cheers wp, but i was hoping you had some solid inside info.
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cheers wp, but i was hoping you had some solid inside info.
I am seeing Chutney this week hope to have more info then ;)
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on Fox they were discussing Craig and the Brisbane lions.
I just wonder why we never really in the running. Perhaps they value him more and thus offered him a truck load. Who knows but we should've really gone after him.
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on Fox they were discussing Craig and the Brisbane lions.
I just wonder why we never really in the running. Perhaps they value him more and thus offered him a truck load. Who knows but we should've really gone after him.
did they say he's signed with brisbane??
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on Fox they were discussing Craig and the Brisbane lions.
I just wonder why we never really in the running. Perhaps they value him more and thus offered him a truck load. Who knows but we should've really gone after him.
did they say he's signed with brisbane??
No but why let the facts get in the way of a good story?
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on Fox they were discussing Craig and the Brisbane lions.
I just wonder why we never really in the running. Perhaps they value him more and thus offered him a truck load. Who knows but we should've really gone after him.
did they say he's signed with brisbane??
No but why let the facts get in the way of a good story?
lol so you blokes still think we're a chance?
:lol
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on Fox they were discussing Craig and the Brisbane lions.
I just wonder why we never really in the running. Perhaps they value him more and thus offered him a truck load. Who knows but we should've really gone after him.
did they say he's signed with brisbane??
No but why let the facts get in the way of a good story?
lol so you blokes still think we're a chance?
:lol
Yep they sure do
Neil Craig at Punt Rd next year...hahahahahaha
got more chance seeing Jurica lining up at FF in 2012
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on Fox they were discussing Craig and the Brisbane lions.
I just wonder why we never really in the running. Perhaps they value him more and thus offered him a truck load. Who knows but we should've really gone after him.
did they say he's signed with brisbane??
No but why let the facts get in the way of a good story?
lol so you blokes still think we're a chance?
:lol
Yep they sure do
Neil Craig at Punt Rd next year...hahahahahaha
got more chance seeing Jurica lining up at FF in 2012
Never thought we were a chance and truth be known i am not sure we want him. I was referring to the newspaper article, not Daniels comments. If you want a good story then read the Hun, if you want the truth then read the Age.
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on Fox they were discussing Craig and the Brisbane lions.
I just wonder why we never really in the running. Perhaps they value him more and thus offered him a truck load. Who knows but we should've really gone after him.
did they say he's signed with brisbane??
No but why let the facts get in the way of a good story?
lol so you blokes still think we're a chance?
:lol
Yep they sure do
Neil Craig at Punt Rd next year...hahahahahaha
got more chance seeing Jurica lining up at FF in 2012
Never thought we were a chance and truth be known i am not sure we want him. I was referring to the newspaper article, not Daniels comments. If you want a good story then read the Hun, if you want the truth then read the Age.
i agree. Age is a more intelligent read but it doesnt matter where or who you hear it from we cant poach an egg let alone someone like Craig.
The truth is Craig will not be at our club next year
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If Neil Craig gets to Brisbane it's because of ex-AFC Football Ops Manager John Reid who is working up there, nothing to do with RFC being a basket case you bunch of effing sook hard badger baiters
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If Neil Craig gets to Brisbane it's because of ex-AFC Football Ops Manager John Reid who is working up there, nothing to do with RFC being a basket case you bunch of effing sook hard badger baiters
Go Gerkin, Go Gerkin, Go Gerkin........,
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quollphile :cheers
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If Neil Craig gets to Brisbane it's because of ex-AFC Football Ops Manager John Reid who is working up there, nothing to do with RFC being a basket case you bunch of effing sook hard badger baiters
keep telling urself that gerks :rollin
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I just wonder why we never really in the running. Perhaps they value him more and thus offered him a truck load. Who knows but we should've really gone after him.
Can tell you daniel "we have gone after him" as you put it just because it isn't splashed about in the HUN doesn't mean the club are sitting back doing nothing
Source = Chutney ;) :shh
If you want a good story then read the Hun, if you want the truth then read the Age.
Bingo :thumbsup
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I just wonder why we never really in the running. Perhaps they value him more and thus offered him a truck load. Who knows but we should've really gone after him.
Can tell you daniel "we have gone after him" as you put it just because it isn't splashed about in the HUN doesn't mean the club are sitting back doing nothing
Source = Chutney ;) :shh
If you want a good story then read the Hun, if you want the truth then read the Age.
Bingo :thumbsup
we have gone after him and we've already been ruled out.
I'll take whatever odds your offering WP, we have no chance
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we have gone after him and we've already been ruled out.
I'll take whatever odds your offering WP, we have no chance
Why have we been ruled out? Because it was reported in the HUN?
I responded to daniel's comment that we hadn't gone after him
I simply said we have and the fact that our meeting & discussions haven't been splashed around in the media doensn't mean the club hasn't been trying
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If you want a good story then read the Hun, if you want the truth then read the Age.
Bingo :thumbsup
Caroline Wilson?
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We are still being linked to one of the ones chasing Neil Craig ....
CRAIG AT FIRST DROP
Interesting suggestion from AFL Coaches Association boss Danny Frawley on radio this weekend.
He said former Adelaide coach Neil Craig would be a perfect fit as Australian cricket's new high performance manager.
Both Brisbane and Richmond are seen to be chasing him - as is the AFL - but the new role might just whet his appetite.
He is an elite leader of men and has a sports science background that includes premiership success at Adelaide.
Cricket would be crazy not to chase him.
Maybe some outside influence from Craig would be just what cricket needs.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/why-the-code-of-silence-is-dead/story-fn6cisdj-1226126079529
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isn't spud getting paid to go around measuring blokes' heads for a living?
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isn't spud getting paid to go around measuring blokes' heads for a living?
That he is, and he has one of the biggest but Brian Taylors bonce is king of bollards.
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Spud is getting paid to be exactly that a spud.
Footy media has saved alot of idiots from anonymity after they have failed in an official off field role.
Does Spud actually mean what he says or is someone holding up the cue cards for him? :help
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He isn't really an academic giant is he lol
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Footy media has saved alot of idiots from anonymity after they have failed in an official off field role.
Bwahahaha so true.
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Craig Cameron didn't mention any names but we do want an experienced coach to help Dimma next year. Neil Craig obviously one of the main targets for the role.
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I'm not convinced that this 'director of coaching' position is a great idea.
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AFL Teams, BT believes we have offered a 3 year contract as High Performance Manager. Neil is said to be considering it. good to see we are out there chasing!!
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AFL Teams, BT believes we have offered a 3 year contract as High Performance Manager. Neil is said to be considering it. good to see we are out there chasing!!
Good, it might Scare Maric off :lol :lol
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AFL Teams, BT believes we have offered a 3 year contract as High Performance Manager. Neil is said to be considering it. good to see we are out there chasing!!
I said weeks ago that the Club had gone after him and just because it wasn't getting played out the the papers didn't mean the club was working hard to get him ... p
Seems we might be a show after all
Will say it again just becuase things aren't front & square or being leaked to the media deosn't mean the Club isnt doing things
;) ;D ;) ;D
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I'm not convinced that this 'director of coaching' position is a great idea.
Neither am I, but I would still take Neil Craig as an assistant coach. I think he has a lot to offer. But Hardwick is head honcho of coaching and Neil Craig's title should reflect that. The term or title of 'Assistant Coach' seems like a demotion, so I'm sure they will come up with a much fancier title than that should he come to the club.
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I'm not convinced that this 'director of coaching' position is a great idea.
Neither am I, but I would still take Neil Craig as an assistant coach. I think he has a lot to offer. But Hardwick is head honcho of coaching and Neil Craig's title should reflect that. The term or title of 'Assistant Coach' seems like a demotion, so I'm sure they will come up with a much fancier title than that should he come to the club.
Going by what BT said we already have ;D
AFL Teams, BT believes we have offered a 3 year contract as High Performance Manager. Neil is said to be considering it. good to see we are out there chasing!!
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Would be a great get by the club.
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Head of Sports Science is a good title for him. Put him incharge of all the high performance stuff at the club as well as assisting hardwick throughout the week and on matchday.
I'd be happier with a title like that. Needs to be a clear differential IMO, otherwise if things start to go pearshaped it won't take much for the press to up the anti.
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Head of Sports Science or High Performance Manager would be good titles for Craig. Anything that helps improve our fitness and ability to gut-run both ways is badly needed.
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AFL Teams, BT believes we have offered a 3 year contract as High Performance Manager. Neil is said to be considering it. good to see we are out there chasing!!
I said weeks ago that the Club had gone after him and just because it wasn't getting played out the the papers didn't mean the club was working hard to get him ... p
Seems we might be a show after all
Will say it again just becuase things aren't front & square or being leaked to the media deosn't mean the Club isnt doing things
;) ;D ;) ;D
But, we are so used to media leaks. Means we know everything ;D
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AFL Teams, BT believes we have offered a 3 year contract as High Performance Manager. Neil is said to be considering it. good to see we are out there chasing!!
I said weeks ago that the Club had gone after him and just because it wasn't getting played out the the papers didn't mean the club was working hard to get him ... p
Seems we might be a show after all
Will say it again just becuase things aren't front & square or being leaked to the media deosn't mean the Club isnt doing things
;) ;D ;) ;D
Great to see that its being played behind close doors for a change, last 2 seasons has been good like that. :cheers
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A very good acquisition if he comes to Richmond. More and more better people are coming to Richmond lately hopefully it continues with Neil Craig.
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Craig to clear his desk
Michelangelo Rucci
From: The Advertiser
September 08, 2011 5:40PM
NEIL Craig will meet Adelaide Football Club chief executive Steven Trigg on Friday to end his "staff'' deal at West Lakes.
It will be the first step in Craig's move to a new AFL club, most likely Richmond.
Craig was in Melbourne on Wednesday sifting through his post-Crows opportunities that included being Brisbane coach Michael Voss' senior mentor to seeking a high-performance role at Cricket Australia.
Craig is officially on leave at Adelaide where he resigned as coach six weeks ago. His "staff'' role has him to return to West Lakes next month, but there now appears no role for him at Adelaide that will appoint a new coach in the next three weeks.
Port Adelaide also is prepared to consider Craig for a role at Alberton, but it is understood Craig will not agree to meet with the Power.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/craig-to-clear-his-desk/story-e6frecj3-1226132483279
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I hope this happens. :pray
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Denham says that Richmond is Craig's favoured option.
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wow, this is shaping up positive..
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would be an outstanding appointment.
Would make one of our weaknesses sports science a strength.
Really hope it happens, infact desparate for it to happen as it is crucial to our success
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Could be our biggest pick up this off season :cheers
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I hope this happens. :pray
Not religious, but time for a group prayer :pray
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Benny Gale acquisition number 1 for the club.
If this is true so far Benny Gale's number 1 acquisition is Neil Craig. :thumbsup
This will be so so good for our footy club. :pray
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:eyebrow :eyebrow
arghhh Chutney ;D
:jump
Gee I wish understood how betting & odds work :-\
Someone on here offered my long odds a few weeks back ... I think that means I'd win big I might be a slight show right about now ;D :rollin
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Benny Gale acquisition number 1 for the club.
If this is true so far Benny Gale's number 1 acquisition is Neil Craig. :thumbsup
This will be so so good for our footy club. :pray
I know people don't want to hear this but if this does comme off you better throw Cameron into the mix of praise...I think you'll find he's been heavily involved as he should be seeing he runs the footy dept ;) ;D
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Let it happen WP and then we'll work out who deserve the plaudits. :thumbsup
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Noted :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray
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:pray :pray :pray :pray :pray
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We gotta pray. PRAYYYYYYY
Pray. PPRAYYYYYYY
We gotta pray, just ta make it today
That's why we pray
(http://jeremylightsey.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/mchammer.jpg)
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We gotta pray. PRAYYYYYYY
Pray. PPRAYYYYYYY
We gotta pray, just ta make it today
That's why we pray
(http://jeremylightsey.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/mchammer.jpg)
Where did that Dude get Beefcakes shorts from :o ;D
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:eyebrow :eyebrow
arghhh Chutney ;D
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Gee I wish understood how betting & odds work :-\
Someone on here offered my long odds a few weeks back ... I think that means I'd win big I might be a slight show right about now ;D :rollin
If this happens - name your price WP :pray
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BT on 3aw says that Craig has knocked back the Cricket Australia offer.
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who'd want to work for that rabble :lol
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CA....pfffft
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And Brisbane has joined the fight for the services of Craig.
The former Crows mentor appears to be in high demand since resigning as Adelaide's senior coach last month. He met Richmond on Thursday and had discussions with the Crows.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/crows-lean-to-mark-neeld/story-e6frf9jf-1226133579375
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Honestly, this stuff is hard to believe. Good news just doesn't associate with our club.
Its too good to be true, surely.
:pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray
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Brisbane Lions face battle to lure Neil Craig to the club
Greg Davis and Andrew Hamilton
From: The Courier-Mail
September 10, 2011
BRISBANE are in a ding-dong battle for the services of former Adelaide coach Neil Craig as the off-season moving and shaking went up a gear at the Gabba yesterday.
The ex-Crows mentor is in high demand since resigning as Adelaide senior coach last month.
Craig met with Richmond on Thursday and had discussions with the Crows about a high performance position yesterday.
Craig, who has a sports science background as well as a rich football pedigree as a player and coach, will talk to the Lions again on Tuesday about a possible director of coaching role to support senior coach Michael Voss.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/brisbane-lions-face-battle-to-lure-neil-craig-to-the-club/story-e6frep5o-1226133295255
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Be interested in Craigs mind set.
A) Brisbane: Great landscape to work and live. Rubbish list, ageing stars, few up and coming youngsters, miles away from premiership, away from the chaos that is AFL.
B) Richmond: Heartland of the AFL in Vic, young promising list, far from premiership window but can see the light.
Wonder if Brisbane are offering him the same posistion or whether its a coaching role.
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Melbourne now interested in Neil Craig according to Whispers on 3aw.
Demons looking at having Scott Burns as senior coach with Neil Craig as his assistant.
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But ive also heard the Ross Lyon is the man for melbourne so far.... time will tell
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Melbourne now interested in Neil Craig according to Whispers on 3aw.
Demons looking at having Scott Burns as senior coach with Neil Craig as his assistant.
i dunno but i reckon that our role as high performance manager may have a little more appeal than assistant...coming from the head coach straight to assistant seems odd...
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Our new and budding relationship with Athlete's Performance in the States, and how that needs to be integrated and fostered, and the access to a different fountain of elite sports science should tickle Cwaigy's taint
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Our new and budding relationship with Athlete's Performance in the States, and how that needs to be integrated and fostered, and the access to a different fountain of elite sports science should tickle Cwaigy's taint
Didn't even give that a thought. Very good point you've made there gerks.
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Lions, Tigers in hunt to sign coach Craig
Jon Pierik
Brisbane Times
September 14, 2011
THE battle for Neil Craig's signature continued yesterday when he again met the Brisbane Lions.
Lions officials flew to Adelaide to resume discussions in the hope of securing Craig in a possible director of coaching role to support coach Michael Voss.
Craig met Richmond last Thursday about a similar role working alongside coach Damien Hardwick. The former Adelaide coach, who has a sports science background, also remains a chance to become high-performance coach with the Crows.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/afl/afl-news/lions-tigers-in-hunt-to-sign-coach-craig-20110913-1k7w7.html#ixzz1XqwYOhSC
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Michaelangelo Rucci said the Richmond offer is the best one on offer for Craig. In fact it's the only offer ;D if I heard Rucci correctly. The Brisbane one has seemed to have gone away and the Melbourne one won't happen.
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Neil come to Tigerland - there's so much you can do and improve ;D
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Caro reckons we're favourites to gain Neil Craig but Adelaide is making a second push to keep their man. She said Richmond put a very good presentation to Craig and strongly believe they are in the box seat.
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Caro reckons we're favourites to gain Neil Craig but Adelaide is making a second push to keep their man. She said Richmond put a very good presentation to Craig and strongly believe they are in the box seat.
i hard same thing from insides source
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Sounds like it's all coming together especially if it's true Brisbane has lost interest. I can't see Craig remaining with the Crows with a totally new coaching panel coming in so that leaves just us left.
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Sounds like it's all coming together especially if it's true Brisbane has lost interest. I can't see Craig remaining with the Crows with a totally new coaching panel coming in so that leaves just us left.
I'm hoping Brisbane lost interest because Craig told them they had no chance.
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Sounds like it's all coming together especially if it's true Brisbane has lost interest. I can't see Craig remaining with the Crows with a totally new coaching panel coming in so that leaves just us left.
I'm hoping Brisbane lost interest because Craig told them they had no chance.
With Mitch Clark bailing you may be on the money there Oiafi.
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i hard same thing from insides source
Not Chutney? ;D
Perhaps Caro knows Chutney too ;)
Caro was at the B&F remember
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Seriously how could neil craig not take the high performance managers job at Richmond. Great facilities, young coaching group, young playing group, big club with a big support base, 2 minutes from the MCG. We've got everything he needs to make an impact. Thats why he should take the job.
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Seriously how could neil craig not take the high performance managers job at Richmond. Great facilities, young coaching group, young playing group, big club with a big support base, 2 minutes from the MCG. We've got everything he needs to make an impact. Thats why he should take the job.
and the most livable city in the world
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-30/melbourne-wins-world27s-most-liveable-city/2862628 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-30/melbourne-wins-world27s-most-liveable-city/2862628)
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Lions still confident of luring former Adelaide coach Neil Craig to Brisbane
Greg Davis
From: The Courier-Mail
September 15, 2011
BRISBANE Lions are confident they are "right in the mix" for the services of Neil Craig after a three-hour meeting with the former Crows senior coach.
Lions coach Michael Voss and general manager of football operations Dean Warren continued negotiations with the ex-Adelaide mentor about a possible director-of-coaching role with Brisbane.
The trio first met at the Gabba early last month, soon after Craig resigned as Crows coach after almost seven years in the job.
Craig is in high demand due to his vast football knowledge as a player and coach as well as his sports science background.
Craig met Richmond officials last week and is also a chance to stay at the Crows in a different capacity, but Brisbane remain bullish about their chances.
Craig is expected to make a final call before the end of the month.
"Neil has obviously got other options but we feel like we are right in the mix," Warren said.
"It was a terrific three hours.
"We had a good discussion about the role that we want him to fill. He had questions for us and we had questions for him.
"There's no doubt that he is certainly interested.
"He is doing his due diligence for the options he has got in front of him and he told us he would be making a decision in the next couple of weeks.
"We feel like he is just as interested in our role as he is in any of the others that have been presented to him."
Voss and Warren also travelled to Melbourne on Tuesday to meet with possible candidates for the vacant assistant coaching roles at the Lions.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/lions-still-head-of-queue-for-craig/story-e6frepf6-1226137206142
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Lions still confident of luring former Adelaide coach Neil Craig to Brisbane
Greg Davis
From: The Courier-Mail
September 15, 2011
Voss and Warren also travelled to Melbourne on Tuesday to meet with possible candidates for the vacant assistant coaching roles at the Lions.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/lions-still-head-of-queue-for-craig/story-e6frepf6-1226137206142 (http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/lions-still-head-of-queue-for-craig/story-e6frepf6-1226137206142)
Now there's something I may have missed.
Does anybody know what is happening to our assistant coaches?
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Lions still confident of luring former Adelaide coach Neil Craig to Brisbane
Greg Davis
From: The Courier-Mail
September 15, 2011
Voss and Warren also travelled to Melbourne on Tuesday to meet with possible candidates for the vacant assistant coaching roles at the Lions.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/lions-still-head-of-queue-for-craig/story-e6frepf6-1226137206142 (http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/lions-still-head-of-queue-for-craig/story-e6frepf6-1226137206142)
Now there's something I may have missed.
Does anybody know what is happening to our assistant coaches?
:thumbsup
God only knows.... ;D
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Finally it's not the RFC who feel the need to do all their business on the back page of the Herald Sun. :thumbsup
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Well someone is wrong. The Courier Mail is saying Brisbane are still in the hunt whereas Rucci from the Adelaide Advertiser said yesterday the Lions are out.
As others have said our new facilities at Punt Rd and the connection now with Athletes Performance with us heading over to Pheonix would be very tempting for Craig with his sports science background.
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Well someone is wrong. The Courier Mail is saying Brisbane are still in the hunt whereas Rucci from the Adelaide Advertiser said yesterday the Lions are out.
As others have said our new facilities at Punt Rd and the connection now with Athletes Performance with us heading over to Pheonix would be very tempting for Craig with his sports science background.
As a Brisbaneite, I would go with Rucci. If he doesn't know something going on in SA footy then it is not going on whereas the Courier Mail are experts at getting things wrong, especially when it comes to AFL.
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will take a state of serial killers at their word over a state of morks that think daylight savings time will mean their curtains will fade quicker
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will take a state of serial killers at their word over a state of morks that think daylight savings time will mean their curtains will fade quicker
Yoohoo, I saw a post BEFORE the snip!!
Actually, it was an enforced edit rather than a snip but it's as good as it gets for me nowadays. Now, what is that saying about small things and small minds????? :help
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We all know how reliable Damien Barrett can be ::)
He did mention tonight on FS that number 1 candidate for Melbourne coaching job was Scott burns with Neil Craig as an assistant.
That would eff me off if that happened.... garry lyon :banghead
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Burns is also the number one for the Crows position
Dees might miss out again
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We all know how reliavle Damien Barrett can be ::)
He did mention tonight on FS that number 1 candidate for Melbourne coaching job was Scott burns with Neil Craig as an assistant.
That would eff me off if that happened.... garry lyon :banghead
Wasn't Barrett saying for weeks Ross Lyon would end up coach at Melbourne :wallywink
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Burns is also the number one for the Crows position
Dees might miss out again
Let's hope so! Where's God? We could use his hand......
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Burns is also the number one for the Crows position
Dees might miss out again
on the contrary i think they are in the drive seat for a good coach with their list and selections coming up.
Honestly who would want to coach Stkilda with their ageing list and a fair amount of duds. IMO they are finished, the only that may save them is Lenny Hayes having a good year in 2011.
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Wasn't Barrett saying for weeks Ross Lyon would end up coach at Melbourne :wallywink
I think Barrett is one of thoughs people that believe if you sling enough mud some of it will stick.
And the things he does get right we just hear about it more.
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We all know how reliavle Damien Barrett can be ::)
He did mention tonight on FS that number 1 candidate for Melbourne coaching job was Scott burns with Neil Craig as an assistant.
That would eff me off if that happened.... garry lyon :banghead
That's not even rational.
So after final intrviews Burns gets the job at Melbourne as Senior Coach and Craig as an assistant.
Any competent applicant for the senior job would reply that they are no longer interested.
You apply for the senior coach's job and they give you a minder?
And why would Craig take the job at Melbourne when he's already knocked back the same job at Brisbane
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you know for sure he has knocked back the brissie job?
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Eade and Craig are in demand
Brisbane, Richmond, Adelaide, Melbourne and the Pies, as well as even Fremantle in the west, are all considering the innovative appointments of general managers to oversee emerging football departments under raw coaches.
Craig, 55, is renowned for his deep sports science background as well as his vast SANFL and AFL coaching port folio.
He has already held discussions with Brisbane and Richmond on a potential appointment as director of coaching along with Lions coach Michael Voss or the Tigers Damien Hardwick.
Craig is also now being touted as a possible appointment in a package coaching deal at Melbourne alongside former Collingwood playing star and current West Coast assistant Scott Burns.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/16/eade-and-craig-are-in-demand/
Burns and Craig in Melbourne package
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/16/burns-and-craig-in-melbourne-package/
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you know for sure he has knocked back the brissie job?
No. Like most I'm only going on press reports, mainly Rucci.
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Bah stuff off Melbourne. This will kill me if they sign him.
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Reports are Melbourne are about to announce ex-Richmond star Mark Neeld as coach.
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you know for sure he has knocked back the brissie job?
No. Like most I'm only going on press reports, mainly Rucci.
Not the answer i was hoping for ;D
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Bah stuff off Melbourne. This will kill me if they sign him.
It won't kill me, but it will move them up Dookies personal club hate ladder by a few notches.... :gotigers
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Herald Sun now reporting that Neil Craig will join Mark Neeld at Melbourne. WTF.
Why you would go that rabble over us I dont know, maybe I'm biased.
Be disappointing if this is true !!!!
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hahahaha Richmond Footy club beaten by Melbourne
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Herald Sun now reporting that Neil Craig will join Mark Neeld at Melbourne. WTF.
Why you would go that rabble over us I dont know, maybe I'm biased.
Be disappointing if this is true !!!!
The media are still saying likely or firming regarding Craig so they still don't know. I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
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bah they just write what they friggen like, didn't Craig state he wanted a few weeks to consider the offer from RFC etc ? When did he cram in this interview with Melbourne all of a sudden and then inform the media that he would probably go that way. Seriously...
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Yep it was only 24 hours ago that the media were claiming a Burns/Craig double ticket. I guess if you print ever possibility then you can eventually say you were right.
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mightytiges mighty tiges
@TimGossage Has it been confirmed that Neil Craig is heading to melbourne as Neeld's director of coaching?
TimGossage Tim Gossage
@mightytiges Not confirmed but more than likely. Demons want to unveil Neeld first and not trump him with Craigs appointment I suspect.
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You've got to love the media ..... :wallywink
The Herald-Sun is saying Neil Craig will be Neeld's director of coaching
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/demons-raid-magpies-nest/story-e6frf9jf-1226139306807
The Age on the other hand is saying Neil Craig won't be at Melbourne if Neeld is coach
It's understood Neil Craig and Rodney Eade have been ruled out of being a senior assistant to Neeld, should the Demons opt to fill that role.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/neeld-to-coach-demons-20110916-1ke3i.html#ixzz1Y8D5KfJA
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Tom Gossage 'suspects' or is suspected of being a complete bs artiste of Turner prize winning proportions. Well that's case closed 99, I think we can close the thread.
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Craig won't be at Melbourne......Nobody Panic ;D
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No mention of Craig in the Neeld press conference.
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Cameron Schwab was asked on SEN about Neil Craig and he avoided giving an answer. So make of that what you will.
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Knowing our luck gents, he probably wont come to tigerland
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Demons chief executive Cameron Schwab, meanwhile, refused to confirm or deny speculation the club was close to appointing ex-Adelaide Crows coach Neil Craig as a senior assistant for Neeld.
"Our attitude to that is the same as what it was to this: we'll make announcements when we're ready to make announcements," Schwab said.
"We understand there's going to be a lot of conjecture.
"What we've said to Mark is we'll give him the best opportunity to get the best people we can."
http://www.stuff-neeld-wants-demons-to-be-the-team-thats-the-hardest-to-play-against-in-the-afl/story-e6frf3e3-1226139776119
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Cameron Schwab was asked on SEN about Neil Craig and he avoided giving an answer. So make of that what you will.
Sounds like we're firming unless he gets a better offer..
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We'll offer a position that's right for us, others will offer positions that are right for them. We shouldn't offer something thats not right for us. If Craig ultimately chooses someone else's position then so be it. I'm over the idea we have to land the big name. We need to stay the course and do what's right for us.
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Nothing like a good offer to 'firm up' ;D
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We'll offer a position that's right for us, others will offer positions that are right for them. We shouldn't offer something thats not right for us. If Craig ultimately chooses someone else's position then so be it. I'm over the idea we have to land the big name. We need to stay the course and do what's right for us.
wise words, Woofy.
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We'll offer a position that's right for us, others will offer positions that are right for them. We shouldn't offer something thats not right for us. If Craig ultimately chooses someone else's position then so be it. I'm over the idea we have to land the big name. We need to stay the course and do what's right for us.
x 2 :thumbsup
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We'll offer a position that's right for us, others will offer positions that are right for them. We shouldn't offer something thats not right for us. If Craig ultimately chooses someone else's position then so be it. I'm over the idea we have to land the big name. We need to stay the course and do what's right for us.
x 2 :thumbsup
I know we want him, and the interviews have gone well.
Hopefully he chooses us as he will be awesome for our sports science department
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Ch 7 news tonight still going with the line that Neil Craig will join Neeld at Melbourne.
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Some on twitter are claiming Neil Craig is over the line for the Demons...
AfterGrogBlog Tony Tea
"Neil Craig will be announced as football director/mentor. Not announced but confirmed. Consider it announced. Well, rumour-ounced."
cstanaway Clint Stanaway (Ch 9 reporter)
"No official word on Neil Craig joining the Demons, but expect him to be announced as a Senior Assistant next week"
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Sounds like he will go to the demons. There's normally not this much media chatter without some truth to it.
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dissapointing if right, thought we'd have a better case, perhaps he'd feel more comfortable being part of a brand new coaching team
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Yep sounds like Craig is off to the Dees although after the past week you can't take anything for granted and it might all change unexpectedly :laugh:.
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Yep sounds like Craig is off to the Dees although after the past week you can't take anything for granted and it might all change unexpectedly :laugh:.
I'd be surprised if true, with so many vacancies I reckon Craig would be keeping his options open.
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Craig only meet with Melbourne Thursday of this week for the first time! we were front runners and IMO still are but he obviously has to consider Melbourns offer as well. Don't count us out yet regardless of what is being said, the longer we hear nothing the better it is for us ;)
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Schwab said Melbourne had yet to determine whether they would look to secure a senior assistant for Neeld in the mould of a Mark Thompson.
The Demons have spoken with former Adelaide coach Neil Craig. It's understood Craig would have joined Melbourne had West Coast assistant Scott Burns won the Demons role.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/neeld-talks-tough-on-demons-plans-20110917-1kf7g.html#ixzz1YDiBqZMI
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What the hell is going on with this? Media are all on different pages. Someone on BF thinks we believe we have already got him.
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Too much talk and not enough action.
Either he is with melbourne or richmond or brisbane???
Media get your poo together and source some facts, is that too much to ask?
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Not too much gets leaked out these days.
The media's guesses are as good as anyone's. Let's wait and see what eventuates.
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Media get your poo together and source some facts, is that too much to ask?
Too much? If the football media EVER got it's crap together and sourced some facts it would be a watershed day in the annals of Australian journalistic history.
Edit: edited quote
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:shh Thanks for the edit to, mods :thumbsup
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If the football media EVER got it's crap together and sourced some facts it would be a watershed day in the annals of Australian journalistic history.
Too true ;D
Very quiet on the Neil Craig front today. SEN commentators today had no clue and actually said he'd be a good fit for Richmond when asked by a caller about Craig. So the journos are still in the dark.
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I think that some on here are getting a bit hysterical about Neil Craig.
Sure, he'd be a great pick up but it's not that big a deal if he ends up elsewhere.
There are plenty of others who could do the same job, some are looking for coaching jobs and some are with the media.
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If we miss out on him I would go for Rodney Eade as director of Dimma and his assistants.
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Very quiet on the Neil Craig front today. SEN commentators today had no clue and actually said he'd be a good fit for Richmond when asked by a caller about Craig. So the journos are still in the dark.
Finally a commentator who has a clue because they have no clue ;D
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Schwarz just asked about Craig's future to some Adelaide journo SEN have on today and the answer was "I don't really know. He's keeping a very low profile at the moment". So the media are still in the dark.
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they maybe in the dark but that wont stop them guessing and passing it off as accurate
I still believe we are in with a real chance here, a bigger chance than a couple of other clubs ;) ;D
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From poster 'The Gun' on BF.....
A client (very respected richmond family member) of mine told me today that Neil Craig is a 70% chance of joining the tigers, When i asked him who the other 30% belonged to. Brisbane have offered him more dollars than we have.
The decideing factor is between Hardwick v Voss as he explained that Craig believed both lists to be about the same ::)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22321578&postcount=199
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The gun wouldn't make crap up based on other posts he has written imo
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Well at least its not melbourne
imo Brisbane's list isnt poop actually and they were quite competitive against the top teams, collingwood, geelong, west coast etc.
But they did drop some silly games like us ::)
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Well at least its not melbourne
imo Brisbane's list isnt poop actually and they were quite competitive against the top teams, collingwood, geelong, west coast etc.
But they did drop some silly games like us ::)
Yep agreed, when you actually look at their list its surprisingly a lot better than I initially thought, some talent to work with thats for sure!!
I actually think adelaide is still a shot - if Burns gets hired by the crows I reckon he'll join him
Also why are Brsibane able to offer more $$$ than us?? - seriously we should not be getting outbid by opposition clubs when you have identified a key piece to the puzzle. If he's not looked at as a big key by our hierarchy and Brisbane are offering much more respobsibility then good luck to him and we cant complain about losing him.
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I actually think adelaide is still a shot - if Burns gets hired by the crows I reckon he'll join him
Don't think that's going to happen now :whistle :whistle
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I actually think adelaide is still a shot - if Burns gets hired by the crows I reckon he'll join him
Don't think that's going to happen now :whistle :whistle
what have i missed? ;D
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Plenty of fish in the sea if he doesn't want to come to us.
What about Scott Watters?
Dermie raved over him on SEN.
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Neil Craig is being interviewed by the Eagles this week after having discussions recently with Brisbane, Richmond and Melbourne.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/daily-departures-have-brenton-sanderson-winging-it-to-adelaide-crows/story-e6frg7mf-1226141187576
Clearly Craig hasn't made a decision yet if he's still having meetings with various clubs.
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Neil Craig is being interviewed by the Eagles this week after having discussions recently with Brisbane, Richmond and Melbourne.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/daily-departures-have-brenton-sanderson-winging-it-to-adelaide-crows/story-e6frg7mf-1226141187576
Clearly Craig hasn't made a decision yet if he's still having meetings with various clubs.
Bugger... weagles will be able to offer a good deal more than us.
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Yeah Caro reporting that he's been offered a lucrative deal from the Weagles. He's certainly a man in demand.
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sounds like my first gut instinct is correct - we dont have the capabilities to mix it with the big boys and entice high quality to join us
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sounds like my first gut instinct is correct - we dont have the capabilities to mix it with the big boys and entice high quality to join us
Correct. I was waiting in hope more than anything.
Like someone said earlier I think we should turn our attention to Waters.
He has some serious runs on the board
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sounds like my first gut instinct is correct - we dont have the capabilities to mix it with the big boys and entice high quality to join us
Correct. I was waiting in hope more than anything.
Like someone said earlier I think we should turn our attention to Waters.
He has some serious runs on the board
I wouldn't give up just yet ;)
All I will say is that last week I was extremely confident, today I am less so ;)
thems the breaks ;D
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sounds like my first gut instinct is correct - we dont have the capabilities to mix it with the big boys and entice high quality to join us
Correct. I was waiting in hope more than anything.
Like someone said earlier I think we should turn our attention to Waters.
He has some serious runs on the board
I wouldn't give up just yet ;)
All I will say is that last week I was extremely confident, today I am less so ;)
thems the breaks ;D
Less so because of the Weagles? I think it between us and them now, Brisbane and Melbourne surely out of the running.
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Well I know where I would want to go, to a team that needed me rather than to a team that was already doing pretty well in all honesty. I would rather be building something new than polishing someone elses Ferrari.
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How could he resist living in the world's most livable city?
:thumbsup
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Less so because of the Weagles? I think it between us and them now, Brisbane and Melbourne surely out of the running.
No not because it's the Weagles - just because every day a new suitor seems to appear
And BTW I don't think it is case of not being able to compete with the "big boys" and being able to "entice high quality"
In this case we've competed very hard and still remain in contention; to me that says something about our club. TBBH 12-18 months ago I'd doubt we'd have been able to say that
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Less so because of the Weagles? I think it between us and them now, Brisbane and Melbourne surely out of the running.
No not because it's the Weagles - just because every day a new suitor seems to appear
And BTW I don't think it is case of not being able to compete with the "big boys" and being able to "entice high quality"
In this case we've competed very hard and still remain in contention; to me that says something about our club. TBBH 12-18 months ago I'd doubt we'd have been able to say that
Its just my opinion WP - proof will be in the pudding, if he goes elsewhere I won't be surprised, not one bit
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dont think we need to be pinning our hopes on Neil Craig. Yes he would be a good get but dont think he is the missing peice of the puzzle by any means.
We should close this thread and reopen when the decision is made.
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Its just my opinion WP - proof will be in the pudding, if he goes elsewhere I won't be surprised, not one bit
Fair enough too, respect your view tony_montana
It's just that I don't believe it is fair to say if Craig decides not to come to Richmond that it means we "dont have the capabilities to mix it with the big boys and entice high quality to join us"
As I've said the Club's worked bloody hard on this and for us to still be in the running rather than having been "fobbed" off like we would have been in the past says people are taking more notice of this Club now.
And I reckon long term that's got to be a good thing for the RFC
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Its just my opinion WP - proof will be in the pudding, if he goes elsewhere I won't be surprised, not one bit
Fair enough too, respect your view tony_montana
It's just that I don't believe it is fair to say if Craig decides not to come to Richmond that it means we "dont have the capabilities to mix it with the big boys and entice high quality to join us"
As I've said the Club's worked bloody hard on this and for us to still be in the running rather than having been "fobbed" off like we would have been in the past says people are taking more notice of this Club now.
And I reckon long term that's got to be a good thing for the RFC
Agreed, but it would be bloody nice to have someone choose us for a change! :gotigers
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lol dunno where people are getting this thing that we are not a desirable place to go, we are a big club, even when we are down, this is not dinky town. Craig has got some integrity and he will probably chose where he wants to go based on what is best for him and his future and what he wants to get out of his career goal wise rather than what gang he wants to hang around with.
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Come on Neil come to the Tigers. We are the biggest challenge available.
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It also emerged yesterday that .... Neil Craig has been offered a lucrative role at West Coast along with offers from Melbourne and Richmond.
Melbourne appears in the box seat to win Craig's services, but the Adelaide coaching veteran has not yet reached a final decision although he has indicated to his former club that his preference is to move to Melbourne - the city. The Demons' offer is a senior director of coaching role that would see Craig act as a mentor to Mark Neeld and his team as well as play a role in the physical conditioning department.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/st-kilda-legend-eyes-coach-spot-20110919-1ki0m.html#ixzz1YT1iSsA6
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/another-key-figure-walks-out-on-saints/story-e6frf9jf-1226141882291 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/another-key-figure-walks-out-on-saints/story-e6frf9jf-1226141882291)
According to this, Misson is moving from St Kilda to Melbourne.
Could mean they have filled their 'High Performance Manager' role, meaning Craig is less likely to go there. If he wants to move to Melbourne (city) then we may have pulled this one off :pray
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Will be intresting to see the finals results of this one.
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Maybe I'm biased but I can't see anyone chosing Melbourne over us.
West Coast and Brisbane yes, but Melbourne no.
IMHO we trump Melbourne in every way possible.
Better facilities, coaching staff, board, members, finances and IMO playing list. Melbourne youth have failed to develop where as our Tiger cubs have even if only marginally in comparison to the competition.
If it's down to Melbourne and Us, unless Melbourne can offer a huge wage I'm confident he'd chose us.
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One way or the other this could be announced by the end of this week I reckon
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One way or the other this could be announced by the end of this week I reckon
is that ijnside info 10fl or just gut feel :shh
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mumbles did coach the redlegs
might have an affinity for the red and the blue
and cawk
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mumbles did coach the redlegs
might have an affinity for the red and the blue
and cawk
thats where the connectionm with scott burns would have come from..i reckon with burns ruled out, and melb appointing that ex saints bloke to high perform manager that craig is narrowing as a fav to join us
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The Demons are hopeful of securing former Adelaide coach Neil Craig in an over-arching director of sport performance role, which would incorporate some elements of a football director as well as being a mentor to rookie coach Mark Neeld.
Regardless of Craig's appointment, Josh Mahoney will move from being an assistant coach to become football manager.
If Craig does not accept the position, it is expected Mahoney's role will be enhanced to cover some of those duties.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/connolly-out-of-stuff-20110920-1kjlc.html#ixzz1YVioyKqD
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So the Age are now saying the Dees are "hopeful" rather than "confident"
In simple terms this means the Age is saying "we are clueless on this issue" ;D
Full credit to Neil Craig - at least he doesn't run his footy career via the media :thumbsup And it seems to annoying the hell out of the media :lol ;D
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So the Age are now saying the Dees are "hopeful" rather than "confident"
In simple terms this means the Age is saying "we are clueless on this issue" ;D
Full credit to Neil Craig - at least he does run his footy career via the media :thumbsup And it seems to annoying the hell out of the media :lol ;D
WP
Are you missing a "not" in that last sentence?
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So the Age are now saying the Dees are "hopeful" rather than "confident"
In simple terms this means the Age is saying "we are clueless on this issue" ;D
Full credit to Neil Craig - at least he does run his footy career via the media :thumbsup And it seems to annoying the hell out of the media :lol ;D
WP
Are you missing a "not" in that last sentence?
No it was missing a "n't" ;D
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I hope we get him. Also, I'd like to see MelbTank win a few spoons in the coming years :cheers :thumbsup Hate that club.
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More Melbourne coaching appointments but more importantly Neil Craig isn't among them ...
MELBOURNE has appointed Brian Royal as its midfield coach for 2012, with Geelong Falcons coach Aaron Greaves named as midfield assistant coach. Greaves will report to Royal, who takes over from 2011 midfield coach Scott West.
MELBOURNE has appointed Chris Connolly as general manager of club development, with assistant coach Josh Mahoney set to take up the football manager position.
http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/7415/newsid/123889/default.aspx
http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/7415/newsid/123890/default.aspx
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MELBOURNE has appointed Brian Royal as its midfield coach for 2012
Wasn't he an assistant coach there years ago under Daniher?
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More Melbourne coaching appointments but more importantly Neil Craig isn't among them ...
MELBOURNE has appointed Brian Royal as its midfield coach for 2012, with Geelong Falcons coach Aaron Greaves named as midfield assistant coach. Greaves will report to Royal, who takes over from 2011 midfield coach Scott West.
MELBOURNE has appointed Chris Connolly as general manager of club development, with assistant coach Josh Mahoney set to take up the football manager position.
http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/7415/newsid/123889/default.aspx
http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/7415/newsid/123890/default.aspx
Hey, looooong time reader of OER but made an account so it didn't seem so creepy and I could just the odd comment in.
Anyhow, to the point. I was listening to Triple M's Rush Hour on the way home tonight and Garry Lyon was on for the midweek rub along with Damien Barrett and a couple others. They mentioned this appointment and Barrett said that when he last chatted to Frawley (today I think?), Frawley said that Neil Craig has 5 contracts in front of him. The radio team speculated at least: Richmond, Melbourne, Brisbane, West Coast. Lyon gave the standard "no comment" response whether or not they're still chasing Craig. Somebody asked if St Kilda would be interested in Ayres (I imagine due to his Port Melbourne success at the moment) and they unanimously agreed to no, since the Saints have so far hinted in going a long term and fresh direction which I imagine would also extend to any interest from or in Craig as well.
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Welcome to OER dwaino.
This must be a good forum, I'm told God posts here occasionally.
:lol
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Welcome dwaino :thumbsup
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Brian Royal = Kiss of Death
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Welcome Dwaino, ah you the sstuth you put down the think for blockathjes?
sorry couldnt help myself...
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Cashed-up Blues to woo Neil Craig
Michelangelo Rucci
From: AdelaideNow
September 22, 2011 11:51AM
NEIL Craig's list of suitors is getting longer.
Carlton - having decided to keep coach Brett Ratten - is preparing to outbid every AFL rival on signing Craig as a "senior assistant" or "coaching director".
The Blues are ready to beat Brisbane and Victorian rivals Melbourne and Richmond to hire Craig, whose future has been subject to much conjecture in the past month.
First chased by the Lions, Craig then was said to be on the verge of signing a three-year deal to support Richmond coach Damien Hardwick.
Then at the weekend he emerged as Melbourne's choice to support the Demons' novice coach Mark Neeld.
Craig refuses to make any public comment on his future until he chooses a club.
There are just two certainties now with Craig's role in football next season - it will not be at the Crows, where he remains on staff, nor at Port Adelaide, which is prepared to talk to Craig but is not having its calls answered.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/cashed-up-blues-to-woo-craig/story-e6frf9jf-1226143497660
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Welcome Dwaino, ah you the sstuth you put down the think for blockathjes?
sorry couldnt help myself...
Welcome Dwaino, ah you the sstuth you put down the think for blockathjes?
sorry couldnt help myself...
:lol I've been resisting that, with great difficulty I might add, myself.
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just another reason to dispise those pricks.
seriously man WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
does anyone else want to burn down Princess Park with me
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Carlton - having decided to keep coach Brett Ratten - is preparing to outbid every AFL rival on signing Craig as a "senior assistant" or "coaching director".
The Blues are ready to beat Brisbane and Victorian rivals Melbourne and Richmond to hire Craig, whose future has been subject to much conjecture in the past month.
Well I knew there was another club lurking but I thought it might be Essendon seeing they gave their fitness people the stuff mid season ;D
Didn't think it be the Blues
First chased by the Lions, Craig then was said to be on the verge of signing a three-year deal to support Richmond coach Damien Hardwick.
My advice to Neil, is go with your first instinct ;) that first contract you were going to sign is the one :thumbsup
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just another reason to dispise those pricks.
seriously man WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
does anyone else want to burn down Princess Park with me
:lol
OK, but you never saw me, right? :shh
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The Blues are notorious claim jumpers.
If they get him I hope it turns into fools gold!
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Im not fussed, I think WC would have more chance of luring him than carltank. I am feeling good about it, wherever the cards may fall, he would be good I am sure but not at any price. We have to keep our nerve and not act like desperate nubs who have no direction without him.
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i thought we were desperate nubs that have no direction without him?
oh, perhaps i was just anticipating the chicken little meltdowns if we miss out on him.
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just another reason to dispise those pricks.
seriously man WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
does anyone else want to burn down Princess Park with me
It was Princes Park (1 s) now it's Visy Park (I think).
But Princess Park (2 s's) fits better.
:lol
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From poster Tiger71 on BF:
"With a work function last night we had David Parkin as guest speaker and I had a chance to have a good one on one with him. During the chat I brought up if he had heard anything about Neil Craig. He mentioned that he had spoken to him yesturday and Neil has 4 offers on the table that he is considering.
Parkin also said when he asked who they were Neil told him he wont say as every bloke from Melbourne is in the Media...so who knows ?"
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22349500&postcount=314
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just another reason to dispise those pricks.
seriously man WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
does anyone else want to burn down Princess Park with me
It was Princes Park (1 s) now it's Visy Park (I think).
But Princess Park (2 s's) fits better.
:lol
always has and always will be princess park to me. :thumbsup
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Oh yes, full of princesses
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Loose a couple of letters and add a K, is even closer to the mark! :lol
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Prsentation should be and probably is along the lines:
Here's where we think we're at.
Here's where we want to improve.
These would be your authority and responsibilities.
This is the tenure and payment we can afford.
Think about it and get back to us if you want more clarity.
If you decide to go somewhere else, best of luck in the future and thanks for listening.
The twist in all this is that Craig would be coming in above the existing fitness staff - IMO no bad thing.
If he knocks back our offer do we go for someone else and will that person replace any of our existing staff.
Obviously just the approach to Craig is a recognition that we want to improve an area we see as lacking.
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Prsentation should be and probably is along the lines:
Here's where we think we're at.
Here's where we want to improve.
These would be your authority and responsibilities.
This is the tenure and payment we can afford.
Think about it and get back to us if you want more clarity.
If you decide to go somewhere else, best of luck in the future and thanks for listening.
The twist in all this is that Craig would be coming in above the existing fitness staff - IMO no bad thing.
If he knocks back our offer do we go for someone else and will that person replace any of our existing staff.
Obviously just the approach to Craig is a recognition that we want to improve an area we see as lacking.
Agree RT but I don't think fitness will be the only area that they see Craig having responsibility.
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...keen to get him on board to try and help develop the players physically - sports science etc is obviously his "kettle of fish" & remember thinking the Crows seemed more advanced as far as "bigger bodies/athletic frames"...also think his input & ideas could only help Dimma tactically...
...that being said, I don't think it's the end of the world if we don't get him & if we play our cards right with the two extra development coaches and new partnership with Athletes Performance that we should be on the right track...
...has anyone heard if the role will be offered to anyone else if Craig declines and/or who else we might consider?
Cheers
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Keith Conlon twitter (from 5AA)
"Neil Craig to Richmond? Rowie is 'very confident'. Caro Wilson says they are very keen to get him. @1395FIVEaa"
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Meanwhile, Voss kept his fingers crossed that they were in the mix to sign Neil Craig as their director of coaching despite reports that five clubs were chasing the ex-Adelaide mentor.
"We've had some chats with him and we'll continue to have dialogue where necessary,'' Voss said.
"It's a pretty important position for us. We've earmarked Neil as the applicant we'd like to have.''
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-wont-give-mitch-clark-away-in-fremantle-trade/story-fn69a32t-1226143684287
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From twitter:
"@AFL_Talk I know it's been swirling for a while but word on the street is that @Richmond_FC will announce the signing of Neil Craig tmrw"
Also Healy and Russell on 3aw said tonight before the 7pm news that Caro has an article in tomorrow's Age stating that Craig has been signed by Richmond.
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I may cry.
Not for the fact we have Niel Craig but for the fact that our club is marketable enough for a guy with 5 other offers on his desk and he chose us.
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as hully used to say, poo the bed
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Massive coup for the club.
Crossing fingers.
Might crack a beer if I hear the news tonight.
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I should add nothing confirmed yet. I just posted what's being doing the rounds tonight. Hopefully it is correct :pray.
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as hully used to say, poo the bed
he did not say that
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Eff off Carlton.. Buy another flag.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/cashed-up-blues-to-woo-craig/story-e6frf9jf-1226143497660
Cashed-up Blues to woo Neil Craig
Michelangelo Rucci From: AdelaideNow September 22, 2011 11:51am
NEIL Craig's list of suitors is getting longer.
Carlton - having decided to keep coach Brett Ratten - is preparing to outbid every AFL rival on signing Craig as a "senior assistant" or "coaching director".
The Blues are ready to beat Brisbane and Victorian rivals Melbourne and Richmond to hire Craig, whose future has been subject to much conjecture in the past month.
First chased by the Lions, Craig then was said to be on the verge of signing a three-year deal to support Richmond coach Damien Hardwick.
Then at the weekend he emerged as Melbourne's choice to support the Demons' novice coach Mark Neeld.
Craig refuses to make any public comment on his future until he chooses a club.
There are just two certainties now with Craig's role in football next season - it will not be at the Crows, where he remains on staff, nor at Port Adelaide, which is prepared to talk to Craig but is not having its calls answered.
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hey popey. program. get it.
lmao
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hey popey. program. get it.
lmao
How much is it? If its more expensive than the AFL record I'm not interested..
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it's free :lol
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Just realised it was 11:51am instead of pm.
Also realised its not even 11:51pm currently.
I might take a few of those programs thanks gerks lmao lol.
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;D
don't worry some of the pages are stuck together in mine
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;D
don't worry some of the pages are stuck together in mine
Nail polish works wonders.
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What a coup for the club. :clapping
Please let it be. :pray
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Clubs lobby for Craig's services
Michelangelo Rucci
From: The Advertiser
September 23, 2011
NEIL Craig has more and more offers to consider as the deposed Crows coach prepares to stay in the AFL.
Carlton - having decided to keep coach Brett Ratten - is ready to outbid every AFL rival for Craig as a "senior assistant" or "coaching director".
The Blues are seeking to beat Brisbane and Victorian rivals Melbourne and Richmond to hiring Craig whose future has been subject to much conjecture in the past month.
First chased by the Lions, Craig then was said to be on the verge of a three-year deal to support Tigers coach Damien Hardwick.
At the weekend he emerged Melbourne's choice to support novice coach Mark Neeld. Brisbane coach Michael Voss was reportedly in Adelaide yesterday to enhance his sales pitch to Craig.
Craig refuses to make any public comment on his future until he chooses a club.
There are just two certainties now with Craig's role in Australian football next season - it will not be at the Crows, where he remains on staff, nor at Port Adelaide that is prepared to talk to Craig but is not having its calls answered.
New Crows coach Brenton Sanderson continued his meetings at West Lakes yesterday.
He will return to Melbourne today - and to consider if any Crows assistants will be moved from the coach's box to player development roles.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/clubs-lobby-for-craigs-services/story-e6frecoc-1226144085151
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I can't find any article from Caro today online :-\.
It's still just whispers on the net it seems. From Shane Sullivan twitter:
"@Robbo_heraldsun Neil Craig has choosen to continue his #AFL involvement at @Richmond_FC is the whisper. Done deal."
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:whistle :whistle :whistle
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I can't find any article from Caro today online :-\.
It's still just whispers on the net it seems. From Shane Sullivan twitter:
"@Robbo_heraldsun Neil Craig has choosen to continue his #AFL involvement at @Richmond_FC is the whisper. Done deal."
Lol there's a rumour Caros written an article
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Oh yeah that would just stuffing shove it up Carltank and Melbournes big fat egos if we pulled this off. In some ways, I am a small, petty man, this is one of them lol
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In some ways, I am a small, petty man, this is one of them lol
:clapping
Gold
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Well he is just
skin and bone.... :lol
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Greg Swann denied Carlton were speaking to Neil Craig.
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Greg Swann denied Carlton were speaking to Neil Craig.
So they have him then. ;D
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:whistle :whistle :whistle
Does your conspicuous whistling signal that its a done deal, WP?
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Greg Swann denied Carlton were speaking to Neil Craig.
He must have told them to "bugger off cheaters".
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:whistle :whistle :whistle
Does your conspicuous whistling signal that its a done deal, WP?
WP is usually pretty solid with these type of signals. Has been confident for a while now... If this is pulled off it's as much of a justification for the FTF as it is anything else. I'm happy to throw more cash at the club if these type of acquisitions keep taking place. I reckon that's how the media will run with it too if it all comes to fruition!
Have we spoken to the Mango Chutney today WP?
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Have we spoken to the Mango Chutney today WP?
My :whistle :whistle was a little bit of sarcasm on my part to all the negative "nellies" on here who over the last few weeks have said we were absolutely no chance. My line has always been we were a chance and I still beleive that and yes I've always had a feeling we were a big chance... if at the end of the day we don't get Craig then it wont be for the lack of trying or professionalism in how we have done this ... ;)
Am I confident? Yes I am and slightly more so than I was earlier in the week
As for Chutney, yes we've spoken today and Chutney sadly had no further news which didn't make my day I can tell you
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Another day and still no word :P. Just further evidence the media are just making stuff up as usual when they don't know.
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Dimwittio better not put out another cheque book.
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I was told that a decision was expected this week. So who knows ... in truth I was expecting something yesterday or today but nothing as yet.
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Mike Sheehan on 3AW today claimed Melbourne was in the box seat
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I have an insider at the lions and he had a second three hour session with voss and co up here in the last ten days. Not rumour, fact.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22377794&postcount=101
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lol desperados clutching at straws.
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Mike Sheehan on 3AW today claimed Melbourne was in the box seat
Meaning Mike like most in the media doesn't have a clue and he's only showing his Melbourne bias.
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Craig is believed to have five offers in front of him, with senior roles at Richmond and Melbourne considered to be the most likely destination for the former Crows coach.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/25/eade-confirms-approach-from-st-kilda/
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From poster 'Bird man' on BF:
"my friend just told me expect an announcement within the week days after the GF
we will find out through the news who it is... then the "official" announcement ( what he is saying )
But he has told me its gone cold .. which means it has been decided and the clubs should or will know with in a couple of days.
but here is the thing.
Niel is keeping this so quite he is keeping some of his people in the dark as well ... and the ones in the dark are the ones telling the media .. if that makes sense.
and from what we already know the announcement will be in Melbourne/Vic"
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22391742&postcount=476
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surely a decision before the combine next week?
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surely a decision before the combine next week?
Would think next Monday or Tuesday gerks one way or another ;D
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surely a decision before the combine next week?
Would think next Monday or Tuesday gerks one way or another ;D
A WP Cheeky grin... this exites me.
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A WP Cheeky grin... this exites me.
Settle I know no more than I did last Friday
The Chutney jar is empty ;D
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A WP Cheeky grin... this exites me.
Settle I know no more than I did last Friday
The Chutney jar is empty ;D
I have a feeling that as of Friday you knew enough ;D
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A WP Cheeky grin... this exites me.
Settle I know no more than I did last Friday
The Chutney jar is empty ;D
I have a feeling that as of Friday you knew enough ;D
:-\ Not really just more a little confident last Friday than I was last Tuesday... ;D
But that could change tomorrow or next Monday ;D
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A WP Cheeky grin... this exites me.
Settle I know no more than I did last Friday
The Chutney jar is empty ;D
WP, if Chutney isn't doing it for you anymore, switch to a really spicy salsa. I'm sure it will always provide you with some nice "Hot Gossip"! ;D
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9186/hotgossip.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/hotgossip.jpg/)
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AFL Coaches Association maestro Danny Frawley keeps saying Craig has four contracts before him. These are said to be at Brisbane (where coach Michael Voss is most keen to have Craig on his staff), Richmond and any of Carlton, West Coast and the AFL.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/neil-craigs-chance-to-save-sa-footy/story-fn83zgrc-1226146692854
I spoke to damien Barett yesterday, whom told me the following;
Craig was back in Vic for secondary talks with both Melb & Richmond. Melb has offered more money, but does not mean he will go there;
He agreed with me, Melb are bulk buying, panick buying , anyone whom sounds good. Not sure how much homework they are doing, want to come across , they are making decisions?
Richmond is quiet,cards very close to chest (I like it)..
I am predicting Neil Craig's announcement will be
Next Wednesday @ 11.00am!!!
AT PUNT ROAD....
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22419648&postcount=510
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Richmond is quiet,cards very close to chest (I like it)..
I am predicting Neil Craig's announcement will be
Next Wednesday @ 11.00am!!!
AT PUNT ROAD....
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22419648&postcount=510 (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22419648&postcount=510)
Is that tomorrow or next Wednesday.
:bow
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It's only one persons prediction, and he was talking to Rat Boy of all people :rollin
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Like many have said, Craig would make an invaluable addition to our club, However.
if he decides to go elsewhere, goodluck to him. He will add value to where ever he goes :)
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AFL Coaches Association maestro Danny Frawley keeps saying Craig has four contracts before him. These are said to be at Brisbane (where coach Michael Voss is most keen to have Craig on his staff), Richmond and any of Carlton, West Coast and the AFL.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/neil-craigs-chance-to-save-sa-footy/story-fn83zgrc-1226146692854
Would suggest Danny Frawley shut the hell up . I don't care what his job is he shouldn't be discussing this with the media. His job is to look after the coaches not blab about in the media
I spoke to damien Barett yesterday, whom told me the following;
Craig was back in Vic for secondary talks with both Melb & Richmond. Melb has offered more money, but does not mean he will go there;
He agreed with me, Melb are bulk buying, panick buying , anyone whom sounds good. Not sure how much homework they are doing, want to come across , they are making decisions?
Richmond is quiet,cards very close to chest (I like it)..
I am predicting Neil Craig's announcement will be
Next Wednesday @ 11.00am!!!
AT PUNT ROAD....
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22419648&postcount=510
I saw this in BF this morning and took it as some seriously taking the piddle out of the situation
maybe I am just os eover the whole thing ;D
Richmond is quiet,cards very close to chest (I like it)..
I am predicting Neil Craig's announcement will be
Next Wednesday @ 11.00am!!!
AT PUNT ROAD....
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22419648&postcount=510 (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22419648&postcount=510)
Is that tomorrow or next Wednesday.
:bow
Next week after the GF ;D
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Jade Rawlings has joined Melbourne as an assistant coach under Neeld. Makes you think Craig is less and less likely to end up at the Dees.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/28/rawlings-a-part-of-neeld-s-demons-team/
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Jade Rawlings has joined Melbourne as an assistant coach under Neeld. Makes you think Craig is less and less likely to end up at the Dees.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/28/rawlings-a-part-of-neeld-s-demons-team/
Jade Rawlings is just a football mercenary. Will go from club to club to prolong an ailing AFL career.
I am just glad he didn't get the gig at Punt Rd.
In two years he'll end up at some other struggling club with a new coach and he'll prolong his career a little more.
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Melbourne are collecting jilted ex richmond discards by the looks of things lol
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wow - dees are running around like headless chooks trying to score anything and everything
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Jade Rawlings... my heart stops a beat when I think back to those days.
You almost cry in fear to think where we would be if we appointed Jade our senior coach....
Thank eff for that.
Dees are panic buying, I heard the only had interviewed Neeld once and got wind that Adelaide were going to sign him so offered him the deal before going for 2nd interviews.
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Dees are a joke of a footy club. Still living on past glories and are running the club like it still is 1950.
If Jimmy leaves the club then that club will be back in debt with no respected figurehead and no respect no corporate presence and will be just like their friends from Nought.
That's why I hate losing to clubs like that because they are poo clubs.
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Could someone please tell me what the day-to-day responsibilities of the 'Director of Coaching' will be?
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Over summer create a manifesto on How to Win and play finals footy , beleive me, it will make the koran look like a shopping note by comparrison :shh
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Icke sacked as Neil Craig steps in
By Kim Hagdorn
SportsNewsFirst
29 September 2011 11:40AM EST
FORMER Adelaide coach Neil Craig looks set to be Carlton's football manager in a shock Blues move that forces Steven Icke out.
Icke, 55, is a shock sacking from the Blues to make way for Craig.
Craig could be confirmed as Blues football manager within days as the AFL industry follows latest grand final teams selection news.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/29/icke-sacked-as-neil-craig-steps-in/
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beaten again by the scum
makes me sick in the guts to be honest
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Not announced yet still spekyalation. When I hear it I will believe it.
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beaten again by the scum
makes me sick in the guts to be honest
As always daniel you are believing anything the media writes & speculates on ;D
let's be honest this "SportsNewsFirst" website hasn't got a great track record over the last few weeks with the nig news stories ;D
Having said nothing in this whole saga wouldn surprise me now.
And this is my final comment on this until official announcements are made. The RFC has conducted itself in an incredibly professional manner through this and haven't jumped at shadows like so many others ;D
If Neil Craig decides to come to Tigerland great because he would offer a lot but if he choses not to then it is his loss. Whatever happens happens.
And NO I dont know anymore than I did last week. Am I confident? About as confident as I was last week. What will be will be ;D
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beaten again by the scum
makes me sick in the guts to be honest
Craig is a man of integrity he wouldn't go to a misappropriating cheating lying tanking stealing footy club like that. It would be against his principles.
We'll wait and see. He was a certainty to go to Melbourne 2 weeks ago. :shh
Kim Hagdorn is hardly setting the world on fire. :help
Again lets just wait and see.
Channel 9's underbelly next year is Underbelly Carlton.
The History of the Carlton Football Club 1864-2011.
It will start in January and be a long running series much like Days Of Our Lives and The Young and The Restless. :lol :rollin :lol
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Icke sacked as Neil Craig steps in
By Kim Hagdorn
SportsNewsFirst
29 September 2011 11:40AM EST
FORMER Adelaide coach Neil Craig looks set to be Carlton's football manager in a shock Blues move that forces Steven Icke out.
Icke, 55, is a shock sacking from the Blues to make way for Craig.
Craig could be confirmed as Blues football manager within days as the AFL industry follows latest grand final teams selection news.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/29/icke-sacked-as-neil-craig-steps-in/
I Think this Earl J Waggedorn or whatever his name is, is making up his own conclusion based on two completely separate and possibly unrelated facts.
I bought a loaf of bread and half a kilo of mince today but does it mean I'm making Hamburgers?? ::)
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If it takes Neil Craig this long to decide its no wonder he got sacked.
Funny how in demand he is after the circumstances of his departure i.e getting sacked.
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And from the HUN & no mention of Richmond ;D
Demons still in hunt for Neil Craig
by: Jay Clark From: Herald Sun September 29, 2011 12:20PM I
MELBOURNE remains in the race to secure the services of former Adelaide coach Neil Craig.
Carlton is also reportedly chasing the highly regarded ex-coach and now has a football manager position to fill following the departure of Steven Icke.
However, the Dees are not yet out of the picture.
Melbourne club chiefs remain hopeful a bid to land Craig to help guide new coach Mark Neeld in his first season in charge will be successful.
Brisbane has also made a pitch to Craig.
Craig split with Adelaide this year after seven and a half seasons with the Crows
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/demons-still-in-race-for-neil-craig/story-e6frf9jf-1226151441800
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If it takes Neil Craig this long to decide its no wonder he got sacked.
Funny how in demand he is after the circumstances of his departure i.e getting sacked.
:lol
Bickley: Neil, Tambling is getting cut to pieces out there, should we move him to the forward line?
3 weeks later...
Craig: Yes.
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No mention of us at all in this article WP. Are we even in this race????
Rodger - as per a couple of post back I not going to make anymore comments about it. I am over it to be honest
But yes as I've always said we've always been in the race
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what has craig achieved that deserves this angst if we dont get him?
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Neil Craig to be Demons new footy chief
by: Scott Gullan and Jay Clark
From: Herald Sun
September 29, 2011 1:26PM
MELBOURNE has won the race to secure the services of former Adelaide coach Neil Craig.
The Dees are poised to announce Craig has signed on to a post as head of the club's football department.
He will act as a mentor to new coach Mark Neeld.
Melbourne beat several teams wooing the sacked Crows coach, headed by Carlton and Brisbane.
Craig split with Adelaide this year after seven and a half seasons with the Crows.
MORE TO COME
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/demons-still-in-race-for-neil-craig/story-e6frf9jf-1226151441800
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Neil Craig to be Demons new footy chief
MELBOURNE has won the race to secure the services of former Adelaide coach Neil Craig.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/demons-still-in-race-for-neil-craig/story-e6frf9jf-1226151441800
So be it
Obviously a week's a long time in Footy
Interesting concept integrity ;D
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oh eff no, we have been beaten by both Carlton and Melbourne. :banghead
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oh eff no, we have been beaten by both Carlton and Melbourne. :banghead
Until it is confirmed on the news and I see him in a club polo I am not believing anything.
Until then.
At about 2:30 The Age will release an article confirming we have acquired his services. :lol :rollin :lol
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They must be paying him a lot, they've had to hire bargain basement assistant coaches Rawlings and Royal so they could afford him. :rollin
They're still a rabble. ;D
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AFL Site saying it is a done deal
Dees to make announcement
Print+ Font- FontRSSBy Katrina Gill
1:24 PM Thu 29 Sep, 2011
FORMER Adelaide coach Neil Craig is about to put an end to speculation over his future, and will announce he'll work alongside new coach Mark Neeld at Melbourne.
Craig's vast experience as a coach and qualified sports scientist has made him hot property over the past two months.
After bowing to immense public pressure and resigning as coach of the Crows in July, the 55 year-old was courted by several clubs, including the Demons, Brisbane Lions, Richmond and Carlton, as well as the AFL and Cricket Australia.
He had most recently been linked to the Tigers in a high-performance role, but Melbourne revealed on Thursday Craig had agreed to join Neeld and his revamped coaching panel.
Full article:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/124371/default.aspx
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It's official: Neil Craig has joined Melbourne
http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/7415/newsid/124378/default.aspx
The Melbourne Football Club is pleased to announce the appointment of Neil Craig to the position of Director Of Sports Performance.
Neil Craig said I am convinced through my dialogue with Cameron Schwab, Garry Lyon and the Board, that the Melbourne Football Club is serious about becoming a high performance football club.
I love the history of the Melbourne Football Club. When I walk through the MCG and look at the honor boards I see that the Melbourne Football Club started this game, wrote the rules and have produced some all time great coaches.
In Mark Neeld I see a coach that has a clear vision and I wanted to be part of this coaching group that will work really hard to give the members and supporters what they have been craving for.
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Yep Fox Sports news running with this as well. :banghead
How can we be less attractive than that nothing footy club. :banghead
Life goes on Tiggers.
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Yep Fox Sports news running with this as well. :banghead
How can we be less attractive than that nothing footy club. :banghead
Life goes on Tiggers.
That is what annoys me most, Brisbane, Carlton... If they got him I wouldn't have minded so much, but Melbourne? They're a poohole of a club!
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Life goes on Tiggers.
Agree tucker
As I said a week's a long time in footy :-\
And BTW well done Tigers - you didn't deviate one iota from the outset, professional in the way you went about it, stuck to your plans :clapping :clapping
End of the day Neil Craig has made his choice; the wrong one in my book but his choice
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money talks and rubbish walks in this case
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So, what have we actually missed out on?
What has craig done that Ross smith hasnt?
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Sounds like they offered a different position to the one we were offering. Perhaps he liked their position better. As I said before we should offer him something that is right for us but we should not sell our souls to the devil just to land the big name.
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Yep Fox Sports news running with this as well. :banghead
How can we be less attractive than that nothing footy club. :banghead
Life goes on Tiggers.
That is what annoys me most, Brisbane, Carlton... If they got him I wouldn't have minded so much, but Melbourne? They're a poohole of a club!
Ditto Wayne,
Carlscum although would be more ropable can understand as they cheat at everything but Melbourne........
Just reaks and with the off field that was going on there this season and that softness they have exhibited for so long. I call it Samantha Riley SYndrome no matter how bad they are going they are always happy with their performance and happy to be around.
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As I said before we should offer him something that is right for us but we should not sell our souls to the devil just to land the big name.
Exactly that's why I said this
"you didn't deviate one iota from the outset, professional in the way you went about it, stuck to your plans"
The Tigers have done well here
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So, what have we actually missed out on?
What has craig done that Ross smith hasnt?
I am happy with Ross Smith as I would've been with Neil Craig in the role we set for him.
IMHO think Neil Craig has excellent footy acumen and understands players and footy intricately.
In theory nothing we never had him in the first place but I hope the club is still conducting interviews for someone to fill the position that we all were kind of hoping Neil Craig was going to fill.
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With Rawlings and Royal they need all the help they can get. I'm still stoked about Ross Smith as well as Matt Hornsby and AP to cover the fitnessy stuffy.
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So, what have we actually missed out on?
What has craig done that Ross smith hasnt?
I am happy with Ross Smith as I would've been with Neil Craig in the role we set for him.
IMHO think Neil Craig has excellent footy acumen and understands players and footy intricately.
In theory nothing we never had him in the first place but I hope the club is still conducting interviews for someone to fill the position that we all were kind of hoping Neil Craig was going to fill.
Which was?
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RISE OF THE TOOFLESS TANKBOTS
HUZZAH OL CHAPS!
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So who can tell us what happened behind the scenes. Im amazed that hes gone to Melbourne personally. If hed gone to Carlton I could understand it but Melbourne is a nothing club that doesnt stand for anything and doesnt stand for anything worthwhile. Anyway if hes happy at a small club good luck to him.
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It seems we offered a different type of position, IF there is any substance to this.
Melbourne remains eager to employ Craig as director of elite performance, a role which would involve some mentoring of new coach Neeld, but also help oversee the sport-science program at the club.
Richmond wants Craig in a pure coaching role as senior assistant to Damien Hardwick.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/eades-hat-in-ring-for-pies-as-coach-shuffle-continues-20110928-1kxcc.html
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LOL they offered more money, simple..
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To be honest with people not really disappointed in this dint rate Craig as a football person in but in sports science I do.Go for Rodney Eade if he doesnt get the nod at the saints better football person then Craig by a mile.
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Yep, agree, NEEEEXT, Eade would be great tactically and now we are starting to get the cattle he would be a good pickup.
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Im surprised we wanted more for the football part than the sport science part. That being the case bring on Rodney Eade to mentor Damien Hardwick.
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Yep Im a little dissapointed about this, however Im more amused that we got trumped by melbourne of all clubs ;D The fact Craig, who had 4-5 offers in front of him, would allow a cartel that includes that toxic prick Schwab to woo him, makes me seriously question Craigs judgement :thumbsup
I would have expected him to go to Brisbane or the scum for more money and top notch facilities but melbourne? lol
The bright side is we saved 4-500k and can put that to better use, like another 1 or 2 ross smith types. Make this count tigs and stick it up the Dees once again
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It seems we offered a different type of position, IF there is any substance to this.
Melbourne remains eager to employ Craig as director of elite performance, a role which would involve some mentoring of new coach Neeld, but also help oversee the sport-science program at the club.
Richmond wants Craig in a pure coaching role as senior assistant to Damien Hardwick.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/eades-hat-in-ring-for-pies-as-coach-shuffle-continues-20110928-1kxcc.html
If that is true al then things have worked out for the best bc i would have thought utilising his sports science background would have been high on the list of must do's. If its pure coaching role there are plenty of fish left in the sea
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and probably fish with more to hang their hat on in terms of coaching too.
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It seems we offered a different type of position, IF there is any substance to this.
Melbourne remains eager to employ Craig as director of elite performance, a role which would involve some mentoring of new coach Neeld, but also help oversee the sport-science program at the club.
Richmond wants Craig in a pure coaching role as senior assistant to Damien Hardwick.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/eades-hat-in-ring-for-pies-as-coach-shuffle-continues-20110928-1kxcc.html
Okay then WP, if we didn't deviate and stuck to our plans, what was the job we offered - assistant coach or sports science?
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I'm not interested in Maric at all. Dont give up anything for him.
If he doesn't come to the club so what.
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LMAO
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Okay then WP, if we didn't deviate and stuck to our plans, what was the job we offered - assistant coach or sports science?
I wasn't talking about the role I was referring to the fact we didn't get into a bidding war, we made an offer both role and $$$ wise based on what we as a club wanted, we didn't deviate from that, we acted professionally, didn't selll ourselves via the media that's all
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Do you know what role he was offered, Billy?
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Okay then WP, if we didn't deviate and stuck to our plans, what was the job we offered - assistant coach or sports science?
I wasn't talking about the role I was referring to the fact we didn't get into a bidding war, we made an offer both role and $$$ wise based on what we as a club wanted, we didn't deviate from that, we acted professionally, didn't selll ourselves via the media that's all
Very well handled by the modern day Richmond :clapping
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Do you know what role he was offered, Billy?
Specifics of the role Al; no I don't know that.
Do I think it would have involved more than being a senior assistant coach based on what Chutney said absolutely yes
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:cheers
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So, what have we actually missed out on?
What has craig done that Ross smith hasnt?
I am happy with Ross Smith as I would've been with Neil Craig in the role we set for him.
IMHO think Neil Craig has excellent footy acumen and understands players and footy intricately.
In theory nothing we never had him in the first place but I hope the club is still conducting interviews for someone to fill the position that we all were kind of hoping Neil Craig was going to fill.
Which was?
Nothing really Al.
Both men have been involved in flags albeit with different roles.
Smith at Hawthorn in 08.
Craig in 97 and 98 in a minor role under Blight.
As I have said I am not disappointed we have Smith and would have liked to have Craig also. Both men would have been doing different roles and I guess Craig has alot of footy nous and experience.
I guess as a senior coach he has made two prelims something Ross Smith hasn't done as a head coach but I am not disappointed we have Smith and couldn't land Craig.
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A Tiger supporter caller on 3aw prior to the 7pm news was on bagging the club for missing out on getting Neil Craig. Not a happy camper :wallywink.
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A Tiger supporter caller on 3aw prior to the 7pm news was on bagging the club for missing out on getting Neil Craig. Not a happy camper :wallywink.
Woop de doo ;)
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;D
Craig on 3aw said he chose Melbourne because of its history as the first ever club (that historical stuff is important to him), to learn more about footy from Neeld who has had 14 years of coaching experience at various clubs and levels, and that the position offered by the Demons (he said each club offered him a slightly different position) was better suited to his skill set and where he would like to take himself in the future.
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;D
Craig on 3aw said he chose Melbourne because of its history as the first ever club (that historical stuff is important to him), to learn more about footy from Neeld who has had 14 years of coaching experience at various clubs and levels, and that the position offered by the Demons (he said each club offered him a slightly different position) was better suited to his skill set and where he would like to take himself in the future.
Lets see if working under that parasite Schwab allows Craig to work to his skillset :lol
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;D
Craig on 3aw said he chose Melbourne because of its history as the first ever club (that historical stuff is important to him), to learn more about footy from Neeld who has had 14 years of coaching experience at various clubs and levels, and that the position offered by the Demons (he said each club offered him a slightly different position) was better suited to his skill set and where he would like to take himself in the future.
Lets see if working under that parasite Schwab allows Craig to work to his skillset :lol
exactly, me thinks the fool went for the biggest pay packet, Im happy to move on, nothing ventured nothing gained, ultimately he's achieved NOTHING at the elite level in AFL other than put out the witches hats during the blight era :lol
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Oh well we move on. If there was no major sports science component to what we were offering and all we wanted mainly was an additional assistant coach then it's no loss. Craig was a good H/A coach but not a knockout finals coach. I was more interested in us trying to gain his sports science knowledge rather than anything from his coaching experience.
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can someone delete this thread its taking up space for no reason at all IMHO :cheers
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this aint BF flagman :rollin
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this aint BF flagman :rollin
why what happens of bigfooty?
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over zealous merging and locking by mods, but we will discuss this no more before we feel the wrath of OE ;D
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We don't care about other sites. Snip! ;D
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We don't care about other sites. Snip! ;D
Thank you ;D :bow :cheers
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...agree that if he feels the position wasn't "right" then we simply move on (also agree that working under Schwab should suck the life out him)...
...as for the role itself, does anyone know if we are still keen to head down that path & if so who else we would have in mind?
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...agree that if he feels the position wasn't "right" then we simply move on (also agree that working under Schwab should suck the life out him)...
...as for the role itself, does anyone know if we are still keen to head down that path & if so who else we would have in mind?
looks like its Bailey ;)
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Was Bailey at Essendon at the same time as Hardwick?
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...agree that if he feels the position wasn't "right" then we simply move on (also agree that working under Schwab should suck the life out him)...
...as for the role itself, does anyone know if we are still keen to head down that path & if so who else we would have in mind?
looks like its Bailey ;)
...thought Bailey was just going to be "senior assistant" whilst Craig was offered a more substantial role as far as performance development/sports science etc...don't think Bailey would be a good fit if that's the case...
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...agree that if he feels the position wasn't "right" then we simply move on (also agree that working under Schwab should suck the life out him)...
...as for the role itself, does anyone know if we are still keen to head down that path & if so who else we would have in mind?
looks like its Bailey ;)
...thought Bailey was just going to be "senior assistant" whilst Craig was offered a more substantial role as far as performance development/sports science etc...don't think Bailey would be a good fit if that's the case...
This is pure speculation but according to reports bailey picked the Dees bc they offered a more substantial role whereas we offered almost a straight senior assistant role
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Was Bailey at Essendon at the same time as Hardwick?
Pretty sure he was an assistant at essendon 2000/01 before joing port so would have been at both clubs together
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well if he comes i hope they hose him down and scrub off that tanking stench.
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well if he comes i hope they hose him down and scrub off that tanking stench.
He did what he had to do to improve his list :cheers
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worked a treat for him.
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worked a treat for him.
you will find Neeld has walked into a very good list.
They have a very good spine and a much better list than most people think.
Bailey just couldnt coach and had a personality that was about as interesting as our Juliar
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worked a treat for him.
you will find Neeld has walked into a very good list.
They have a very good spine and a much better list than most people think.
Bailey just couldnt coach and had a personality that was about as interesting as our Juliar
It is a very good list. Seriously seriously lacked onfield leadership, Bailey could be the next Mick Malthouse, when you have no leadership on field you'll be poo.
Viney could barely get a win over Gold Coast with the same list.
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worked a treat for him.
you will find Neeld has walked into a very good list.
They have a very good spine and a much better list than most people think.
Bailey just couldnt coach and had a personality that was about as interesting as our Juliar
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAAHHAHA HAHA I see wot you did there, you took Julia Gillards first name and combined it with liar because she is the first politician to sell us a bunch of BS in history right?
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worked a treat for him.
you will find Neeld has walked into a very good list.
They have a very good spine and a much better list than most people think.
Bailey just couldnt coach and had a personality that was about as interesting as our Juliar
It is a very good list. Seriously seriously lacked onfield leadership, Bailey could be the next Mick Malthouse, when you have no leadership on field you'll be poo.
Viney could barely get a win over Gold Coast with the same list.
Yes Pope i agree but leadership starts at the top and players like A Davey just didnt seem to want to play for their coach and their jumper, where as in previous years i thought they did.
He was hardly the type of guy that would motivate you also and it showed with his group.
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worked a treat for him.
you will find Neeld has walked into a very good list.
They have a very good spine and a much better list than most people think.
Bailey just couldnt coach and had a personality that was about as interesting as our Juliar
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAAHHAHA HAHA I see wot you did there, you took Julia Gillards first name and combined it with liar because she is the first politician to sell us a bunch of BS in history right?
http://www.compymcputer.com/uploads/67886546780003155.gif (http://www.compymcputer.com/uploads/67886546780003155.gif)
She is liar she is a tart she is the WORST PM this country has ever seen. FACT!!
Political Thread mate not footy
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True, leadership starts at the top.
So, what sort of leadership sets out to lose?
One that creates a culture of failure, disharmony and lack of confidence in the coach?
One that sees your number one draft pick get the eff out of there because of the above?
One that sees a series of large losses culminating in a 186 point loss and subsequent sacking of the coach?
:lol
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Melbourne's leadership is a clique, which is part of the reason Scully took the money on offer.
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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAAHHAHA HAHA I see wot you did there, you took Julia Gillards first name and combined it with liar because she is the first politician to sell us a bunch of BS in history right?
owl's got a girlfriend
owl's got a girlfriend
owl's got a girlfriend
owl's got a girlfriend
owl's got a girlfriend
:lol
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nah im just stuffing sick to death of 'dey took er jubs!' and political debates being based on whoever can make the best idiot stuffing rhyming insult out of someones name like kevin o lemon or juliar, its primary school rubbish.
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:lol @ 'dey took er jubs!'
:thumbsup
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worked a treat for him.
you will find Neeld has walked into a very good list.
They have a very good spine and a much better list than most people think.
Bailey just couldnt coach and had a personality that was about as interesting as our Juliar
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAAHHAHA HAHA I see wot you did there, you took Julia Gillards first name and combined it with liar because she is the first politician to sell us a bunch of BS in history right?
Owl, you're still missing little Johnny too much. He's gone mate, and no amount of your pining for him will see him back in charge.
;D
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lol . but dey tuk er jubs!