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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: wayne on September 01, 2011, 04:52:05 PM

Title: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: wayne on September 01, 2011, 04:52:05 PM
Ins: Nason, White, MacDonald, Dea
Out: King
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: wayne on September 01, 2011, 04:52:43 PM
D-Mac call-up

Richmond has named newcomer Dean Macdonald on its extended interchange bench for Sunday’s final home-and-away round clash with North Melbourne at Etihad Stadium.

The 19-year-old medium-sized forward, who was the Tigers’ fourth pick (No. 51 overall) in last year’s National Draft, is in line to make his AFL debut following some impressive performances at VFL level with Coburg in recent weeks.

Ben Nason and Matthew White have also been included on Richmond’s extended interchange bench, while Matt Dea has been recalled to the starting 18 after missing last Sunday’s victory over Adelaide because of injury.

Jake King is the only out at this stage, due to the two-match suspension he received earlier this week.

The team will be finalised tomorrow afternoon.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/122459/default.aspx
Title: Team for Round 24
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 01, 2011, 04:52:55 PM
D-Mac call-up
4:35 PM Thu 01 Sep, 2011

Dean Macdonald has been included in the 25 for the clash against the Roos

Richmond has named newcomer Dean Macdonald on its extended interchange bench for Sunday’s final home-and-away round clash with North Melbourne at Etihad Stadium.

The 19-year-old medium-sized forward, who was the Tigers’ fourth pick (No. 51 overall) in last year’s National Draft, is in line to make his AFL debut following some impressive performances at VFL level with Coburg in recent weeks.

Full article at:

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/122459/default.aspx
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Coach on September 01, 2011, 04:54:01 PM
Three of us have posted about Mac in last two minutes haha
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 01, 2011, 04:54:27 PM
wayne beat me to it by 12 seconds  :lol
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: wayne on September 01, 2011, 04:55:00 PM
 :lol

Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: J Buckthorn on September 01, 2011, 04:57:57 PM
Jettison Buckthorn is on the DMac train  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: tiger101 on September 01, 2011, 05:31:47 PM
It'll be good to see Macdonald getting a run. It'll give him motivation for a big off-season after giving him a taste of senior footy.
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 01, 2011, 05:44:40 PM
Monk will be pleased  ;D
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Stripes on September 01, 2011, 08:29:10 PM
I think we have to give our recruits every possible reason and motivation to continue to develop and fight for a place int he team. A game in the big league would at the very least give McDonald a chance to see how far he has to go to make it and at best give us another future small forward/midfielder option going into next year.

Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: mightytiges on September 01, 2011, 11:17:18 PM
Dea in the starting 18 so he's in. Interesting to see if O'Reilly plays then.

I would've liked to see Contin get a go based on his Coburg form but if MacDonald is given a go instead then at least we are playing the list which is what we should be doing last in the season.
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: DCrane on September 01, 2011, 11:23:15 PM
D-Mac call-up
The 19-year-old medium-sized forward, who was the Tigers’ fourth pick (No. 51 overall) in last year’s National Draft, is in line to make his AFL debut following some impressive performances at VFL level with Coburg in recent weeks.

I didn't see him listed in the best players for Coburg but maybe I read the wrong newspaper. Having said that I totally agree that I hope he gets his taste and uses it to build a pre season on.
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: eliminator on September 02, 2011, 06:49:12 AM
Good luck to Dean. Would be good if they played him. I hope they don't drop O'Reilly
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Tigermonk on September 02, 2011, 04:47:33 PM
Monk will be pleased  ;D

yes  ;D :thumbsup
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Bateman on September 02, 2011, 04:49:43 PM
Quote
yes  ;D :thumbsup

No ... McDonald an Emergency - Dea back in
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: one-eyed on September 02, 2011, 04:55:16 PM
Finalised changes ...

In: Matt Dea, Matthew White

Out: Jake King (Suspension), Jamie O'Reilly
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Coach on September 02, 2011, 05:02:22 PM
Oh eff off. Give DMac a game
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: one-eyed on September 02, 2011, 05:03:34 PM
The Roos have made 6 changes.

Richmond

B: Bachar Houli, Alex Rance, Will Thursfield

HB: Brett Deledio, Jayden Post, Matt Dea

C: Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin, Shaun Grigg

HF: Daniel Jackson, Tyrone Vickery, Shane Edwards

F: Robin Nahas, Jack Riewoldt, Brad Miller

Foll: Angus Graham, Shane Tuck, Nathan Foley

I/C: Matthew White, Mitch Morton, Mitchell Farmer, Jeromey Webberley

Emg: Ben Nason, Jamie O'Reilly, Dean MacDonald


North Melbourne

B: Brady Rawlings, Scott Thompson, Scott McMahon
HB: Kieran Harper, Nathan Grima, Michael Firrito
C: Ryan Bastinac, Ben Cunnington, Lindsay Thomas
HF: Matt Campbell, Hamish McIntosh, Aaron Black
F: Brent Harvey, Drew Petrie, Aaron Edwards
Foll: Todd Goldstein, Leigh Adams, Andrew Swallow
I/C: Daniel Pratt, Jamie Macmillan, Shaun Atley, Aaron Mullett
Emg: Ben Warren, Cruize Garlett, Cameron Pedersen


In: Hamish McIntosh, Daniel Pratt, Ben Cunnington, Aaron Black, Jamie Macmillan, Shaun Atley

Out: Daniel Wells (Shoulder), Lachlan Hansen (Shoulder), Levi Greenwood (Suspension), Jack Ziebell (Suspension), Cruize Garlett, Cameron Pedersen
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Willy on September 02, 2011, 05:04:03 PM
Probably know that he's gonna be on the list next year, mate. Might not be so sure about the other two.
Could be a fitness thing too.

Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Coach on September 02, 2011, 05:06:35 PM
WGAF. White is an average player, give DMac a game because he might actually end up being a player. Fitness thing :lol Relton Roberts :lol
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 02, 2011, 06:37:37 PM
White?  :-\

Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: tiger101 on September 02, 2011, 07:39:14 PM
Webberley the super sub. Didn't Hardwick say on one week at a time some running players suited for that role or something along thoughs lines.
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: mightytiges on September 03, 2011, 01:03:00 AM
Webberley has done well as the sub the last two weeks.

Whitey in as a farewell game?
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Coach on September 03, 2011, 08:29:10 AM
Farewell game :lol
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Simonator on September 03, 2011, 12:26:17 PM
What's happened to Griff? I haven't heard any news of him being injured.. I cant believe he isn't getting a spot, especially with King out !! Hopefully Dimma is just giving Whitey a game since it will be his last at the club  :clapping
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: mightytiges on September 03, 2011, 07:51:11 PM
What's happened to Griff? I haven't heard any news of him being injured.. I cant believe he isn't getting a spot, especially with King out !! Hopefully Dimma is just giving Whitey a game since it will be his last at the club  :clapping
According to Craig Cameron, Big Ben has not been right with his shoulder all season. When his shoulder is right (next year obviously) he'll play ahead of Miller.
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Owl on September 03, 2011, 10:34:25 PM
Cannot wait til we got him up and running with the others. 
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: WA Tiger on September 03, 2011, 11:26:40 PM
Cannot wait til we got him up and running with the others.

Hooray to that. Good off season in the gym and on track....... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Tigermonk on September 04, 2011, 02:15:32 PM
What's happened to Griff? I haven't heard any news of him being injured.. I cant believe he isn't getting a spot, especially with King out !! Hopefully Dimma is just giving Whitey a game since it will be his last at the club  :clapping
According to Craig Cameron, Big Ben has not been right with his shoulder all season. When his shoulder is right (next year obviously) he'll play ahead of Miller.

just proves what a worthless player he is, 2 years at the club & many injuries already, Richmond always make mistakes
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: eliminator on September 04, 2011, 03:56:10 PM
maybe White's last game
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 04, 2011, 04:16:55 PM
What's happened to Griff? I haven't heard any news of him being injured.. I cant believe he isn't getting a spot, especially with King out !! Hopefully Dimma is just giving Whitey a game since it will be his last at the club  :clapping
According to Craig Cameron, Big Ben has not been right with his shoulder all season. When his shoulder is right (next year obviously) he'll play ahead of Miller.

just proves what a worthless player he is, 2 years at the club & many injuries already, Richmond always make mistakes

As worthless as Butcher has been to port ;) ;)
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Rodgerramjet on September 04, 2011, 07:24:58 PM
Can we please get rid of Daniel Jackson, he is brain dead as a footballer.
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Tigermonk on September 04, 2011, 07:55:19 PM
What's happened to Griff? I haven't heard any news of him being injured.. I cant believe he isn't getting a spot, especially with King out !! Hopefully Dimma is just giving Whitey a game since it will be his last at the club  :clapping
According to Craig Cameron, Big Ben has not been right with his shoulder all season. When his shoulder is right (next year obviously) he'll play ahead of Miller.


just proves what a worthless player he is, 2 years at the club & many injuries already, Richmond always make mistakes

As worthless as Butcher has been to port ;) ;)

if you compare Butcher to Griffiths  ;D Butcher kills him in every aspect of football
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Owl on September 04, 2011, 08:17:51 PM
based on what?  Griffiths has played a few games after a shoulder reco.. not really a solid run to judge him on yet I would of thought.
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: 10 FLAGS on September 04, 2011, 08:25:46 PM
what number did Butcher go in the draft?
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Tigermonk on September 04, 2011, 08:28:14 PM
what number did Butcher go in the draft?

Pick 8
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: 10 FLAGS on September 04, 2011, 08:30:17 PM
Griffiths went at 18 didnt he. So the comparison really isnt fair anyway Monky. Big difference between 8 and 18 in draft terms.
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Coach on September 04, 2011, 08:37:51 PM
WGAF honestly
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Tigermonk on September 04, 2011, 08:39:13 PM
Griffiths was the biggest injury riddled player in that draft. everyone knew it & its proved correct. And RFC proved how stupid they are for drafted players who sit on sidelines or in lower divisions giving nothing of value
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 04, 2011, 08:42:03 PM
In Griffiths defence why they played him when his shouilder wasn't completely 100% isnt the kids fault ...it's the club

Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: tony_montana on September 04, 2011, 08:42:41 PM
Griffiths was the biggest injury riddled player in that draft. everyone knew it & its proved correct. And RFC proved how stupid they are for drafted players who sit on sidelines or in lower divisions giving nothing of value

Doesnt butcher have a bad back and has only been able to play 6-7 games in 2 years bc of it?  ;D

too early to call TM
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: TigerLand on September 04, 2011, 10:29:12 PM
Cotchin has played 22 competetive games and will probably win our Best and Fairest.

There are plenty of examples of players having injuries at the beginning of their careers and go onto be to be great players.

Wasting breath whinging about it. 10 weeks ago Butcher hadnt played an AFL game. Comparisons are embarrassingly irrelevant.
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Tigermonk on September 05, 2011, 12:49:59 PM
In Griffiths defence why they played him when his shouilder wasn't completely 100% isnt the kids fault ...it's the club

 Griffiths was given the all clear & reinjured himself, his pee Weak
Butcher was eased into AFL & has done more in a few games than Broken Wings Griffiths
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: JVT on September 05, 2011, 01:31:51 PM
2012 Season: Griffiths > Butcher
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 05, 2011, 01:39:03 PM
Griffiths was given the all clear & reinjured himself, his pee Weak
Butcher was eased into AFL & has done more in a few games than Broken Wings Griffiths

Sorry wrong there Monk - didn't re-injure the shoulder, played when it wasn't 100%. My question is why? to appease the supporters?  it simply defies logic. And Griffiths isn't weak I would argue our medical people are dumb

Butcher is a great example actually of clubs doing the right thing by a kid. Butcher had a really nasty back injury. Did Port rush him to play seniors? Nope they waited until he was 100% right and look at the benefits...

We don't play blokes at 100% we settle for 95% and say away you go  :banghead
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Muscles on September 05, 2011, 02:40:56 PM
Griffiths was given the all clear & reinjured himself, his pee Weak
Butcher was eased into AFL & has done more in a few games than Broken Wings Griffiths

Sorry wrong there Monk - didn't re-injure the shoulder, played when it wasn't 100%. My question is why? to appease the supporters?  it simply defies logic. And Griffiths isn't weak I would argue our medical people are dumb

Butcher is a great example actually of clubs doing the right thing by a kid. Butcher had a really nasty back injury. Did Port rush him to play seniors? Nope they waited until he was 100% right and look at the benefits...

We don't play blokes at 100% we settle for 95% and say away you go  :banghead


But at the same time, WP, I didn't think Griff was running the same patterns or providing as much a chop-out for Jack as Miller was.  It's a no-brainer to surmise that he hadn't been practising the game plan whilst injured, which was what I guess he was sent back to the two's to practise.  I'm also guessing that learning some defensive skills in the two's would have been high on the agenda as well, whether his shoulder was right or not.

The shoulder excuse seems a little lame (sic).  Running the correct patterns and defensive work ethic seemed to be his major issues to me.
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 05, 2011, 02:48:23 PM
But at the same time, WP, I didn't think Griff was running the same patterns or providing as much a chop-out for Jack as Miller was.  It's a no-brainer to surmise that he hadn't been practising the game plan whilst injured, which was what I guess he was sent back to the two's to practise.  I'm also guessing that learning some defensive skills in the two's would have been high on the agenda as well, whether his shoulder was right or not.

The shoulder excuse seems a little lame (sic).  Running the correct patterns and defensive work ethic seemed to be his major issues to me.

Point well made Muscles - agree about the defensive side of things the vast majority of kids that come through from the TAC have no defensive side to their game to be honest

However, Griff spoke at the same pre-match function and told us that he had just had an arthroscope of his re-contructed shoulder to make sure everything was OK and that they had cleaned out the joint again to enable him to get full movment back in his shoulder and all is good. But he also mentioned that 6 weeks at Coburg before playing AFL was probably not enough. Makes you wonder (again  >:() why did they continue playing him if his shoulder needed another cleanout -- the logic beggars belief

Now I know someone who has had a shoulder reco (I know i've mentioned this before) but they've always said it takes a good 12 months to get full movement back after the op and you may think it's right to go but it isn't
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Willy on September 05, 2011, 02:58:22 PM
OK, so im a little confused. Is his shoulder good to go now?
or does he require more surgery?
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 05, 2011, 04:11:42 PM
OK, so im a little confused. Is his shoulder good to go now?
or does he require more surgery?

Had an arthroscope last week and the specialist said it's good and "it is good to go now"

Can start weights next week

That's what the kid said yesterday
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Willy on September 05, 2011, 04:29:33 PM
Thanks WP. That's good news at least.
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Owl on September 06, 2011, 08:08:49 AM
Excellent news.  Yeah Miller does all the 1percent things when the ball comes in, he is an experienced campaigner though muscles,  Griffs is learning.  He has the tools just needs the experience and to put it into practice.
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: Tigermonk on September 06, 2011, 10:42:35 AM
was told he put his hand up to play & was 100%. He did play & failed. His a damaged player & as Richmond will find out time & time again DONT BUY BROKEN PLAYERS WHO DONT GIVE THE CLUB GAME TIME. Polo has bad shoulders & his playing ? Whats Griffiths problem ?? His shoulders were always suspect before he played AFL. When are people going to wake up that to be a AFL player you cant have a weak body. Some players have all the gifts but the body fails them. If Griffiths wants to be a AFL player, He better ask Chris Judd how to overcome his problem because his time will quickly run out.
Now l dont have nothing against the player & wish him all the best but l seen this many times before & Richmond hold onto players who give nothing on the field over several years. We need consistant players who have & give consistant form each week.
Title: Re: Team vs. Nort Melbourne
Post by: MintOnLamb on September 06, 2011, 11:29:59 AM
was told he put his hand up to play & was 100%. He did play & failed. His a damaged player & as Richmond will find out time & time again DONT BUY BROKEN PLAYERS WHO DONT GIVE THE CLUB GAME TIME. Polo has bad shoulders & his playing ? Whats Griffiths problem ?? His shoulders were always suspect before he played AFL. When are people going to wake up that to be a AFL player you cant have a weak body. Some players have all the gifts but the body fails them. If Griffiths wants to be a AFL player, He better ask Chris Judd how to overcome his problem because his time will quickly run out.
Now l dont have nothing against the player & wish him all the best but l seen this many times before & Richmond hold onto players who give nothing on the field over several years. We need consistant players who have & give consistant form each week.
With you here, look at how much time we wasted on Polack. We love picking up weak players sic Edwards, Taylor, Fiora, Polo, Tambling, Makes me Crrrrringe to think we could have had Pavlich, Buddy and Richo all on the same team, that is not the AFL's fault that is some Dip sht at RFC picking up DUDS and it is still happening.
Wasn't it strange that we had no one to keep up with a 35year old from North who cut us to ribbons with his run.