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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: RonnieB on October 07, 2011, 04:34:13 PM
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Daniel Jackson is a man that bleeds for this club. he puts his heart and soul into training, playing, helping the young kids and also taking time out to chat to our fans. However, for some reason, certain "supporters" hang poo on this guy 24/7. "He's a dud, he can't kick." "he's a wanker, he's undisciplined and doesnt care about the club". And that aint even the worst of it. Some of the things I have read here and on other sites is simply PATHETIC. I wouldn't say some of this stuff to my worst enemy let alone one of our top players.
All the things that have been said about him our unfair, malicious and downright horrific. I have had enough! I'm at my wits end with it! The Mods should warn people about the abuse. If it continues they should be suspended/banned! It is no way to treat a quality man and player. It better stop.
Some of you really are a piece of work. Look in the mirror when having a dig at Dan.
RonB
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Daniel Jackson is a man that bleeds for this club. he puts his heart and soul into training, playing, helping the young kids and also taking time out to chat to our fans. However, for some reason, certain "supporters" hang poo on this guy 24/7. "He's a dud, he can't kick." "he's a wanker, he's undisciplined and doesnt care about the club". And that aint even the worst of it. Some of the things I have read here and on other sites is simply PATHETIC. I wouldn't say some of this stuff to my worst enemy let alone one of our top players.
All the things that have been said about him our unfair, malicious and downright horrific. I have had enough! I'm at my wits end with it! The Mods should warn people about the abuse. If it continues they should be suspended/banned! It is no way to treat a quality man and player. It better stop.
Some of you really are a piece of work. Look in the mirror when having a dig at Dan.
RonB
Unfortunately you just can't defend the undefendable :lol :lol
He can't Kick...FACT He is undisciplined......FACT and I am yet to see him bleed for anything let a loan the CLUB....FACT
Go back and have a look at the last game he played for us Wonnie, try and defend that ;) :lol :lol
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Daniel Jackson is a man that bleeds for this club. he puts his heart and soul into training, playing, helping the young kids and also taking time out to chat to our fans. However, for some reason, certain "supporters" hang poo on this guy 24/7. "He's a dud, he can't kick." "he's a wanker, he's undisciplined and doesnt care about the club". And that aint even the worst of it. Some of the things I have read here and on other sites is simply PATHETIC. I wouldn't say some of this stuff to my worst enemy let alone one of our top players.
All the things that have been said about him our unfair, malicious and downright horrific. I have had enough! I'm at my wits end with it! The Mods should warn people about the abuse. If it continues they should be suspended/banned! It is no way to treat a quality man and player. It better stop.
Some of you really are a piece of work. Look in the mirror when having a dig at Dan.
RonB
Unfortunately you just can't defend the undefendable :lol :lol
He can't Kick...FACT He is undisciplined......FACT and I am yet to see him bleed for anything let or loan the CLUB....FACT
Go back and have a look at the last game he played for us Wonnie, try and defend that ;) :lol :lol
BS! He is a good player and what is let or loan :wallywink
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About time someone defended him.
I'm with you Ronnie.
It's disgusting the way some people here have painted Daniel. >:(
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About time someone defended him.
I'm with you Ronnie.
It's disgusting the way some people here have painted Daniel. >:(
Thank you!
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i get where your coming from Ronnie. Some of the Jacko wacking probably has gotten a little out of hand. A lot of it is just taking the pee, though. I think people are just sick of the way he's performed the last couple of years.
I dont think Jackon bleeds for the club either. Cotchin, Newman even Jack bleed for the club. Not Jacko.
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol Let me guess, Foley was Jibbed in the brownlow this year too :lol :lol :lol :lol
And it's "let alone" you idiot :wallywink :wallywink
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol Let me guess, Foley was Jibbed in the brownlow this year too :lol :lol :lol :lol
And it's "let alone" you idiot :wallywink :wallywink
learn basic english before trapping off.
Fair enough, Willy. It is good to see someone express and opinion without the abuse
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Unreal :lol
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:lol
I admire your passion Ronnie B and Jettison Buckthorn but....
He's just not the way forward, did you see anyone playing for Collingwood or Geelong in the Grand Final that you could compare to Jacko?
Someone who would turn the ball over under no pressure at all or give away a stupid free kick at the worst possible time?
Trade him for Mark Blake.
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The whacking went too far about 2 weeks before seasons end. All the keyboard heroes came out who wouldn't know poo from shoe polish.
He might not be in our top 4 players but he is definitely a leader of men, and without doubt in our best 22
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but he is definitely a leader of men,
Not trying to have a go? But what gives you that impression?
His stupid free kicks? shocking tribunal record? costly turn-overs?
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So anyway, back on topic, I haven't seen a single thing posted by you guy's that actually defends him?
Is his Kicking good......No
Is he a leader.......If you consider being suspended for half the season is then maybe but it has to be NO
Is he undisciplined.......Refer to round 24 this season....YES
And the list goes on......
This guy is a Cancer the sooner we can cut him from the club the better :wallywink :wallywink
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He has signed a new deal :gotigers
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ROFLMAOO :rollin.....Warning - while you were reading 9 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.
Wow Ronnie you sure have stirred up some debate. :o I can understand that you have a soft spot for young Dan and he might be a great guy, Kane Johnson was a great guy also but I think the game has passed Dan by just like it did Kane. Taggers who just tag are becoming a dying breed. There's no room in any club now for one trick ponies. You've got to have the full kit of skills and I think Dan Lacks in certain areas on the attacking side of his game. I made a list off the top of my head of players in the AFL I believe could do a better job than Dan at our club irrespective of whether they are available or not and it came to 58. We have to stop treasuring mediocrity and start going for Gold.
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He has signed a new deal :gotigers
With GWS??!! :pray :pray :pray
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;D
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This is one of the most entertaining days of OER i've experienced!
Lovely work, gents.
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Refrain from any criticism of Daniel Jackson.
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Snip! stick to the topic ppl.
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LMAO why did my Almunia post get snipped
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I love this football club no more than all of us on here but this is why Jackson cops it and rightly so.
- Kicking efficiency is below par. He can't kick, the game we play is foot-ball. If you can't kick you can't play. Simple as that. Watch any GF in the last 10 years and see how costly turnovers are via poor kicking.
- His decision making skills are below par. How many worm burning passes do we have to witness miss the target because a player doesn't know his limitations. One of the main reasons he can't kick is because he makes poor decisions and tries to hit targets that only A grade or elite playser can make. He is not one of those.
- He can't kick goals, especially when it matters. One of the biggest problems in 2010 was the reliance on Jack to kick a bag. This year it was shared and midfielders got in on the act. Dusty nearly kicked 40 goals and Cotchin was 20+. Jackson kicked 7 goals and 20 behinds. Unacceptable, that is VFL standard, in fact its lower than that. Below 50% accuracy is embarressing.
- He now chases possessions. Jackos best (if you call it that) footy is done when he plays a run with role. Jackson is no better than a Cameron Ling with a bad shoe. Ling played an important role in the Geelong era by negating players. If Jackson can keep his ego in check and become an expert in this role he may have a future at AFL level.
- His disciplinary record is shocking. Would be up there with Campbell Brown with most game missed through suspension in the last 3-5 years IMO. Whats the point of having a guy that can't play 22 games cause he loses his cool.
- Gives away stupid free kicks. See above. Cost us the game against North with a stupid free kick to Swallow. It was also dirty, it wasn't tough.
Combine all these ingredients together and stir and you get a effing rubbish footballer.
Here is one I prepared earlier:
Daniel Jackson.
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I love this football club no more than all of us on here but this is why Jackson cops it and rightly so.
- Kicking efficiency is below par. He can't kick, the game we play is foot-ball. If you can't kick you can't play. Simple as that. Watch any GF in the last 10 years and see how costly turnovers are via poor kicking.
- His decision making skills are below par. How many worm burning passes do we have to witness miss the target because a player doesn't know his limitations. One of the main reasons he can't kick is because he makes poor decisions and tries to hit targets that only A grade or elite playser can make. He is not one of those.
- He can't kick goals, especially when it matters. One of the biggest problems in 2010 was the reliance on Jack to kick a bag. This year it was shared and midfielders got in on the act. Dusty nearly kicked 40 goals and Cotchin was 20+. Jackson kicked 7 goals and 20 behinds. Unacceptable, that is VFL standard, in fact its lower than that. Below 50% accuracy is embarressing.
- He now chases possessions. Jackos best (if you call it that) footy is done when he plays a run with role. Jackson is no better than a Cameron Ling with a bad shoe. Ling played an important role in the Geelong era by negating players. If Jackson can keep his ego in check and become an expert in this role he may have a future at AFL level.
- His disciplinary record is shocking. Would be up there with Campbell Brown with most game missed through suspension in the last 3-5 years IMO. Whats the point of having a guy that can't play 22 games cause he loses his cool.
- Gives away stupid free kicks. See above. Cost us the game against North with a stupid free kick to Swallow. It was also dirty, it wasn't tough.
Combine all these ingredients together and stir and you get a effing rubbish footballer.
Here is one I prepared earlier:
Daniel Jackson.
Top Post Pope :thumbsup This sums him up perfectly.......
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Oh and Ronnie, no offence but while Jackson is not the worst player who has put on the yellow and black over the last 30 years, he sums up why we have been where we are for the last 30 years ::)
I dont have have a problem with the kid, nor do I dislike him however he is rubbish of recent years and really needs to assess many facets of his game
Edit: remove quote
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To play devil's advocate, I believe Jackson at his best would be our best option of the run-with role. I think he has it in him to be a valuable player for the club but unfortunately he hasn't up the scratch or a while now. My number one beef with Jackson though is his undisciplined free kicks. He constantly loses the plot and gives away stupid free kicks and 50m penalties. I'm a massive fan of getting more mongrel in the side but this is completely the wrong way to go about it.
Just in my opinion anyway.
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is ronnie b jackstars alter ego?
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is ronnie b jackstars alter ego?
The day those two go head to head , will be a failure of all humanity.
God help us all
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Jackson - well educated, very fit, strong - physically & mentally & character, a good leader at the club, plays for the jumper, puts his body on the line but has terrible skills especially kicking. Awareness and footy smarts - very poor. Has great potential to become a model, he has the stature and can strut.
Trade him if we can.
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:lol :rollin
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On the other hand, Dane Swan looked like a hack early on in his career, actually still kicks the ball like a refugee, anyway he went on to win a Brownlow...wooooooooohoooooooo, maybe Jacskon can win one too.
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He might not be in our top 4 players but he is definitely a leader of men, and without doubt in our best 22
He is not a leader and he is not our best 22. Leaders don't keep having brain farts that cost games and suspensions, and there are clearly 22 better players on our list than Jackson - and that will only be exacerbated after this draft when we take another couple of very good players.
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;D ;D
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Bring back Hyde i say...... :lol :lol
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I'd like to nominate Ronnie B, of 85 years, as the first and inaugural OER gem.
And may god have mercy on us all.
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i never realised bull crap could be taken to the next level.
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i never realised bull crap could be taken to the next level.
You aint seen nothing yet al ;D BTW are you any relation to Owl??? ;D
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Bring back Hyde i say...... :lol :lol
I'd rather his brother Jekyll, surgical precision.
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jacko>>>>>>>>>>>>>grigg
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Daniel Jackson is a man that bleeds for this club. he puts his heart and soul into training, playing, helping the young kids and also taking time out to chat to our fans. However, for some reason, certain "supporters" hang poo on this guy 24/7. "He's a dud, he can't kick." "he's a wanker, he's undisciplined and doesnt care about the club". And that aint even the worst of it. Some of the things I have read here and on other sites is simply PATHETIC. I wouldn't say some of this stuff to my worst enemy let alone one of our top players.
All the things that have been said about him our unfair, malicious and downright horrific. I have had enough! I'm at my wits end with it! The Mods should warn people about the abuse. If it continues they should be suspended/banned! It is no way to treat a quality man and player. It better stop.
Some of you really are a piece of work. Look in the mirror when having a dig at Dan.
RonB
all that bla bla bla bla will NOT WIN PREMIERSHIPS!!!!!!
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Hey I have never defended Jacksons stuff ups. I have stated though, that people do arc up a bit nasty beyond the pale on him, to the point if he were ever stupid enough to open this website he would probably top himself. I remember he got taken out with a head bump high once, the umpire ignored it and when he remonstrated with the player, he got reported, he had to be taken off the field and the smart ass was still stirring him up and interfering with him right in front of the umpire and the prick let it go so I think he should of just said stuff it, in for a penny in for a pound and went to town on the idiot and gouged one of his eye balls out, but thats just me.
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Hey I have never defended Jacksons stuff ups. I have stated though, that people do arc up a bit nasty beyond the pale on him, to the point if he were ever stupid enough to open this website he would probably top himself. I remember he got taken out with a head bump high once, the umpire ignored it and when he remonstrated with the player, he got reported, he had to be taken off the field and the smart ass was still stirring him up and interfering with him right in front of the umpire and the prick let it go so I think he should of just said stuff it, in for a penny in for a pound and went to town on the stuffer and gouged one of his eye balls out, but thats just me.
Relax Max.....I wasn't insinuating you had been defending him ;) :lol :lol After a couple of sherbets last night I worked out al rhymed with Owl :o :o Thats what I was trying to get at.... Yes I was off my head :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle
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lol im relaxed just poo stirring as usual
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Hey I have never defended Jacksons stuff ups. I have stated though, that people do arc up a bit nasty beyond the pale on him, to the point if he were ever stupid enough to open this website he would probably top himself. I remember he got taken out with a head bump high once, the umpire ignored it and when he remonstrated with the player, he got reported, he had to be taken off the field and the smart ass was still stirring him up and interfering with him right in front of the umpire and the prick let it go so I think he should of just said stuff it, in for a penny in for a pound and went to town on the stuffer and gouged one of his eye balls out, but thats just me.
Relax Max.....I wasn't insinuating you had been defending him ;) :lol :lol After a couple of sherbets last night I worked out al rhymed with Owl :o :o Thats what I was trying to get at.... Yes I was off my head :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle
That would be why im gettin all that spam coz they mix up my email with yours no doubt.
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jackson has a number of critical deficiencies i.e. kicking, decision-making and discipline
his run with role is not being employed in our current game plan
however, is currently in our best 22, largely because he is a big mature body and at or near his prime
trade him if another club puts up a good deal
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jackson has a number of critical deficiencies i.e. kicking, decision-making and discipline
his run with role is not being employed in our current game plan
however, is currently in our best 22, largely because he is a big mature body and at or near his prime
trade him if another club puts up a good deal
(in Jumper # order)
Thursfield
Deledio
Martin
Grigg
Riewoldt
Cotchin
Astbury
Houli
Farmer
McGuane
Newman
Rance
Tuck
Nahas
Vickery
King
Conca
Batchelor
Helbig
Moore
Foley
Grimes
I agree with your assessment AT except for the bit about him being in our best 22. I rate all the above players as more value/better for the team in their individual roles than Jackson in his. I have been very very disappointed with Jackson's past 2 seasons after being a fan prior to that.
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jackson has a number of critical deficiencies i.e. kicking, decision-making and discipline
It's the discipline that is the big killer IMHO, costs games at time (hello round 24) if he remains at the RFC then he should be booted out of the leadership group at an absolute minimum IMHO
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jackson has a number of critical deficiencies i.e. kicking, decision-making and discipline
It's the discipline that is the big killer IMHO, costs games at time (hello round 24) if he remains at the RFC then he should be booted out of the leadership group at an absolute minimum IMHO
Yer his kicking is exaggerated. Its not great but he's not Tuck either. But his discipline kills us.
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tucks a more reliable kick than whacko, 'specially for goal.
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Damaged Jackson
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Spackson Jackson
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For mine it's Jacko's slow decision making that is just as much a killer as his lack of discipline. He is too often a momentum killer and in modern footy you can't afford to have players like that in your side. Players who continually can't see or ignore the first option and then either put themselves or a teammate under pressure and into trouble as a result are a liability. For someone who is apparently bright off-field, Jacko is often just a slow-thinker on it. He often just can't see the play evolving around him whereas say a Cotchin reliabily has great awareness. Combine that with his inconsistent footskills and we just need to find better footballers if we are to become the top side we want to become.
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For mine it's Jacko's slow decision making that is just as much a killer as his lack of discipline.
Even more of a killer MT.
Hacko is the king of the stop & prop.
Football is unnatural to him.
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For mine it's Jacko's slow decision making that is just as much a killer as his lack of discipline.
Even more of a killer MT.
Hacko is the king of the stop & prop.
Football is unnatural to him.
Well that's settled = TRADE ;D
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For mine it's Jacko's slow decision making that is just as much a killer as his lack of discipline.
Even more of a killer MT.
Hacko is the king of the stop & prop.
Football is unnatural to him.
True. No real surprise either when you think about it. He was drafted more based on his athletic ability (he could run) than football ability. That's why he was a late pick.