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Title: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: mightytiges on March 16, 2005, 02:14:31 AM
Walls has given a list of the three most important players at each club. For the Tiges he chose Browny, Johnno and Richo. I would've thought last year was a perfect example of how badly we miss Cogs when he isn't there ::).

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In terms of damage, who are your three radicals?
The Age
March 16, 2005

Every club has players who are extremely important because they have qualities not easy to replace. When they don't play, their team suffers. Who are they? Walls nominates his three most valuable players at each club.

Who is your team's most valuable player? At Carlton, is it captain Anthony Koutoufides? Kouta is his club's and probably the AFL's highest-paid player, but I wouldn't rate him in the Blues' three most valuable.

Nor do I put Collingwood captain and champion Nathan Buckley in the Magpies' top three.

Some players are valuable because they are match-winners. They make the difference when it comes to kicking a winning score, such as Essendon's Matthew Lloyd and Port's Warren Tredrea. Others save games. Geelong's Matthew Scarlett is a prime example. Some create opportunities for teammates, such as Jeff White and Peter Everitt with their ruck nous.

Michael Voss, Mark Ricciuto and James Hird repeatedly show the way and the likes of Simon Black, Scott West and Cameron Ling amass so many disposals they can't be ignored.

These players are extremely valuable because they have qualities that are not easy to replace. When they don't play, their team suffers.

Robert Walls' MVPs

RICHMOND

Nathan Brown is without doubt the classiest player on the list and under Terry Wallace's guidance will be the most valuable, be it around the goals or in the midfield. Kane Johnson's toughness and committed play for the team work ethic sets an outstanding example for team-mates and Matthew Richardson, as potentially the team's leading goalkicker and occasional matchwinner, sneaks in for third MVP.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/03/15/1110649197998.html
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: cub on March 16, 2005, 03:12:56 AM
I haven't - Its like another number 1 draft pick after last years rotten luck. ;D

Other sides will forget about cogs at thier peril  :thumbsup
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: JohnF on March 16, 2005, 03:41:33 AM
Agreed CUB, it will work to his advantage. Opposition teams will get a rude reminder.
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: cub on March 16, 2005, 04:38:00 AM
Sorry but had to be done.

GEELONG
To be able to pencil in Matthew Scarlett, the best full-back in the land, each week is a luxury that coach Mark Thompson doesn't take for granted. High-possession midfielder Cameron Ling is another who can't be replaced as his ability to beat the best and get plenty of leather himself is unique. Brad Ottens hasn't played a game for Geelong but knowing what he can deliver could turn a handy team into a premiership threat.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/articles/2005/03/15/1110649197998.html

WTF - Based on What  :lol
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: julzqld on March 16, 2005, 08:47:28 AM
Wasn't Browny fairly quiet in the second half of last season - injury aside?
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: Bulluss on March 16, 2005, 09:29:26 AM
Walls is a tosser!

For anyone who was at the practise game on saturday would be able to agree that Cogs is an integral part of our midfield and team as a whole. It was great to see him crashing the packs and picking up plenty of the ball through out the game. One thing that sticks in my mind from Saturday is a mark he took backing into a back in our backline, with no fear for himself. He didnt take his eyes off the ball for one minute and had about 5-6 players closing down on him fast as they approached to contest the mark. Not for one minute did Cogs not look like taking the mark.

If he plays most of the games this season he WILL win our B&F this season.

Go Tigers.
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: mightytiges on March 16, 2005, 11:22:30 AM
Brad Ottens hasn't played a game for Geelong but knowing what he can deliver could turn a handy team into a premiership threat.

WTF - Based on What  :lol

If Otto is included for the Cats then Gas should be in our 3. After last year both starting 2005 a long way off their AA form from 4 years ago  ::).

Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: mightytiges on March 16, 2005, 11:26:42 AM
Wasn't Browny fairly quiet in the second half of last season - injury aside?

From round 14 onwards Browny was quiet carrying a groin? injury. He's been fairly quiet over preseason too. Hopefully that was just due to coming back from injury a few weeks back and he'll be ready to go come round 1.
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: Tiger Spirit on March 16, 2005, 01:07:00 PM
Giving Walls the benefit of the doubt, maybe the rating was because of injury.  Otherwise, how anyone could leave him out of our best 3 players would be mind boggling.  His ability to find the footy is amazing and the circumstances under which he gets possession sometimes is just awesome to see.  In a good team, his influence on a game could be simply awesome.

In 2002 and 2003 he was a virtual lone-hand at times and a highlights reel all on his own.  That he was in such a poor team meant much of his efforts went unrewarded.  How some of those around him couldn’t be inspired by some of his efforts just led me to think that maybe some of them needed to check if they still had a pulse.
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: letsgetiton! on March 17, 2005, 05:39:08 PM
our mvp are
1/ richo
2/ brownie
3/ cogs

end of story
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: mightytiges on March 17, 2005, 07:09:49 PM
When mentally on song Richo would be in our top 3 MVPs easily but I don't reckon he has to be in the side for us to play well. Our best game from a skill and teamwork POV last year IMO was the Brisbane match without Richo when Sarge kicked 6 at FF even though we lost in the end. Also in a couple of games when Richo's kicked 1.6 it was more soul-destroying for the efforts of those upfield.

mvp

1. Cogs
2. Browny
3. Gas - since he did his knee we didn't have anyone who could stop opposition FFs from kicking bags.   
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: Ox on March 17, 2005, 07:52:00 PM
I'm off our old list.
Too many chances,too much time

1-Brown
2-Cogs/Tambling
3-Deledio
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: froars on March 17, 2005, 08:48:39 PM
Couldn't agree more Ox - and those thoughts came to the fore when i saw the Pies game and watching some of the older players and thinking this is the same old stuff again.  The excitement came from the kids and those who i had wiped off as being no good coming good. 

At the moment, it's Johnston, Brown and probably Bowden, but i reckon by end of year we will have the likes of Cogs, Tambo, Deledio and Jackson overtaking them.  And the way Hyde is going, who knows.

Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: Hammerfire on March 17, 2005, 11:57:32 PM
1. Richardson
2. Johnson
3. Coughlan
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: Harry on March 18, 2005, 10:37:34 AM
Most valuable for 2005.
1. Cogs
2. Brown
3. Richo

Most Valuable on list
1. Deledio
2. Cogs
3. Jackson/Meyer/Tambling
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: julzqld on March 18, 2005, 07:18:30 PM
1.  Richo
2.  Simmo
3.  Staff

Oh, sorry - that my personal favourites ;)
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: froars on March 18, 2005, 09:30:02 PM
When Simmo got his jumper tonight, Julz, i mentioned to the person next to me  :shh that you would have been impressed  ;D
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: bg25 on March 19, 2005, 05:58:23 PM
When Simmo got his jumper tonight, Julz, i mentioned to the person next to me  :shh that you would have been impressed  ;D

And ain't that the truth :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: How easy Cogs has been forgetten
Post by: froars on March 19, 2005, 06:58:23 PM
Was pretty impressed myself lol