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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: WilliamPowell on November 10, 2011, 03:27:26 PM
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Mellor to develop Tiger cubs
richmondfc.com.au 3:11 PM Thu 10 Nov, 2011
Richmond has appointed former SANFL star Greg Mellor as its development coach.
Mellor will be responsible for the development of the Tigers’ first and second-year players, as well as the Club’s players competing at VFL level with Coburg.
The 39-year-old played 198 games for West Adelaide, captaining the club from 1997-01 and twice representing the SANFL in State football. He was named captain of West Adelaide’s Team of the Decade (2000-09).
For the past three years, Mellor has been head coach of West Adelaide’s Centre of Excellence (under 18s). Before that, he was an assistant coach at West Adelaide to triple Hawthorn premiership player Andy Collins.
Full article at:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/125998/default.aspx
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so by saying the development coach of 1st and 2nd year players as well as coburg players I take it they are saying thats it for us? 1 development coach?
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WPRaskell twitter
"@Richmond_FC Good appointment but is he going to be the only development coach we have in 2012 I thought the plan was to boost that area"
Richmond_FC
"Leppa will be getting more involved"
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Potentially another D Daly here.
Ordinary to have one coach.
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another straight from the clacker Big richo....did you know that west adelaide have had more AFL players produced than any other state league club in the country. :lol.......One word , highly rated...good get by the tigers :shh
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speaking of Daly....
Hit half a dozen odd balls into a water hazard, cracked the poos and went home :lol
...big john that is
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another straight from the clacker Big richo....did you know that west adelaide have had more AFL players produced than any other state league club in the country. :lol.......One word , highly rated...good get by the tigers :shh
So highly rated that for the past ? years he has been coach of bumfuck idaho and recruited by no-one?
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did you know that west adelaide have had more AFL players produced than any other state league club in the country. :lol.......One word , highly rated...good get by the tigers :shh
Agree it's a veery good academy they have at West Adel that's why I think it's a good appointment
But disappointing if he's going to be the only "development coach"
At the moment we've gone from having 2 with the idea of having 3 or 4 to having just the one "stand alone" with assitance from Leppa.
I wonder if this means Livingstone (who's title is "Head of Development") is going to be more hands on now :-\
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another straight from the clacker Big richo....did you know that west adelaide have had more AFL players produced than any other state league club in the country. :lol.......One word , highly rated...good get by the tigers :shh
So highly rated that for the past ? years he has been coach of bumstuff idaho and recruited by no-one?
and who'd be a better development coach BR...someone like vossy that was a heck of a player, sheesh why didnt we get Knightas back...you're case is about as solid Gillards claim for a carbon tax :lol
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Carbon tax is rock solid, tax polluters. Better than the GST and private health which taxes every bastard
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did you know that west adelaide have had more AFL players produced than any other state league club in the country. :lol.......One word , highly rated...good get by the tigers :shh
Agree it's a veery good academy they have at West Adel that's why I think it's a good appointment
But disappointing if he's going to be the only "development coach"
At the moment we've gone from having 2 with the idea of having 3 or 4 to having just the one "stand alone" with assitance from Leppa.
I wonder if this means Livingstone (who's title is "Head of Development") is going to be more hands on now :-\
That's what's odd about all this. We were told at the fan forum we were going to have 4 development coaches yet now we have just one full-timer plus a part-timer. Wasn't additional positions within the footy dept. what the additional AFL money was for? :huh
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That's what's odd about all this. We were told at the fan forum we were going to have 4 development coaches yet now we have just one full-timer plus a part-timer. Wasn't additional positions within the footy dept. what the additional AFL money was for? :huh
True but we wont be gettng that money until next year sometime and with the AFL who knows when that will be ;D
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did you know that west adelaide have had more AFL players produced than any other state league club in the country. :lol.......One word , highly rated...good get by the tigers :shh
Agree it's a veery good academy they have at West Adel that's why I think it's a good appointment
But disappointing if he's going to be the only "development coach"
At the moment we've gone from having 2 with the idea of having 3 or 4 to having just the one "stand alone" with assitance from Leppa.
I wonder if this means Livingstone (who's title is "Head of Development") is going to be more hands on now :-\
That's what's odd about all this. We were told at the fan forum we were going to have 4 development coaches yet now we have just one full-timer plus a part-timer. Wasn't additional positions within the footy dept. what the additional AFL money was for? :huh
The silence is deafening- why dont they just come out and answer yes or no instead of this smoke and mirrors BS, someone asks a direct question and they reply leppa will be more involved.
We shouldnt eff around with this, clubs are all maneuvering to AD development coaches to their ranks we're culling them?
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I wonder if this means Livingstone (who's title is "Head of Development") is going to be more hands on now :-\
Think Livingstone is NOT involved directly in football matters ie coaching.
While He is listed as the Head of Development, he was initially recruited as the Player Development Manager (off-field) at end of 2008.
Think his main job is player welfare and in searching found a report of him talking to Astbury about his transition to Richmond from the country.
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I wonder if this means Livingstone (who's title is "Head of Development") is going to be more hands on now :-\
Think Livingstone is NOT involved directly in football matters ie coaching.
While He is listed as the Head of Development, he was initially recruited as the Player Development Manager (off-field) at end of 2008.
Think his main job is player welfare and in searching found a report of him talking to Astbury about his transition to Richmond from the country.
Yeah I know that's why I asked if perhaps he's going to be more hands
Although he does have match day role on the bench and he gets involved in training most days
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another straight from the clacker Big richo....did you know that west adelaide have had more AFL players produced than any other state league club in the country. :lol.......One word , highly rated...good get by the tigers :shh
So highly rated that for the past ? years he has been coach of bumstuff idaho and recruited by no-one?
and who'd be a better development coach BR...someone like vossy that was a heck of a player, sheesh why didnt we get Knightas back...you're case is about as solid Gillards claim for a carbon tax :lol
I've got no doubt Voss would be a great development coach, I wouldn't let him near a draft but he would have plenty to offer young footballers.
Knights also would be an excellent choice.
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another straight from the clacker Big richo....did you know that west adelaide have had more AFL players produced than any other state league club in the country. :lol.......One word , highly rated...good get by the tigers :shh
So highly rated that for the past ? years he has been coach of bumstuff idaho and recruited by no-one?
and who'd be a better development coach BR...someone like vossy that was a heck of a player, sheesh why didnt we get Knightas back...you're case is about as solid Gillards claim for a carbon tax :lol
I've got no doubt Voss would be a great development coach, I wouldn't let him near a draft but he would have plenty to offer young footballers.
Knights also would be an excellent choice.
and how do you qualify that in terms of what they have achieved as coaches or is this just a wild guess :lol
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Carbon tax is rock solid, tax polluters. Better than the GST and private health which taxes every bastard
And carbon tax won't?
:lol :rollin :lol :rollin :lol :rollin :lol :rollin :lol :rollin
Al Gore send you a Christmas card each year for contributing to his retirement fund does he Owl?
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Yes... those earning over 110k will be $9.90 a week out of pocket, those on less than that will be compensated. It is a goddamned outrage, this is assuming they try and pass it on which they will try to but they have to get through the ACCC. Well, stuff me, top 500 pee taking companies finally have to start paying for their mess and contributing to a fund for cleaner energy and everyone gets sucked into sticking up for them LOL.
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:lol
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Yes... those earning over 110k will be $9.90 a week out of pocket, those on less than that will be compensated. It is a goddamned outrage, this is assuming they try and pass it on which they will try to but they have to get through the ACCC. Well, stuff me, top 500 pee taking companies finally have to start paying for their mess and contributing to a fund for cleaner energy and everyone gets sucked into sticking up for them LOL.
Please tell me you're joking Owl :lol surely your glasses arent that rosy :rollin
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So is Leppa being demoted?
Given the state of our list in terms of age, why haven't we invested into the one area that is crucial to our future? Isn't this the biggest identified difference between sides like our and Collingwood? We nned to make the best of what we draft and are we going to do this understaffed?
Perhaps the reasoning behind the move is that all our coaches have 'development' as a large part of their portfolios?!
I'm at a loss.
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So is Leppa being demoted?
Nope just taking on more it would seem :-\
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Here's the current full list of coaches:
Senior Coach - Damien Hardwick
Opposition Coach- Wayne Campbell
Defensive Structure & Strategy - Ross Smith
Stoppage Coach - Brendon Lade
Defensive & Training Coach - Justin Leppitsch
Midfield Coach - Danny Daly
Forward Coach - Mark Williams
Development Coach - Greg Mellor
Opposition and List Analyst - Blair Hartley
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Nice, pleased to see Lade isn't midfield coach anymore and purely focusing on stoppages.
Will be very very annoyed if we don't get any more development coaches in as planned originally.
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Opposition and List Analyst - Blair Hartley
I would call Hartley a coach - his role has nothing to do with coaching.
the "opposition" bit in his title refers to him analysing oppositions lists and finding out who's coming out of contract and rating them - nothing to do with coaching IMHO
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Opposition and List Analyst - Blair Hartley
I would call Hartley a coach - his role has nothing to do with coaching.
the "opposition" bit in his title refers to him analysing oppositions lists and finding out who's coming out of contract and rating them - nothing to do with coaching IMHO
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't he coach the players of upcoming opposition tactics on the Monday of each week? :rollin
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Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't he coach the players of upcoming opposition tactics on the Monday of each week? :rollin
Hmm.... interesting and I am happy to stand corrected but I thought that was/is part of what Campbell's role is as opposition coach. :rollin :rollin
Can remember Campbell being asked about it at a pre-match this year and he said that what he did ;D
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I could be wrong but I think Cambo's role is to watch opposition tapes from the 3-4 weeks leading into our game and attend opposition training to pass on to the coaching staff about the opposition's likely gameplan and team structures and who is proppy etc. Blair's role is more about studying each opposition player's strengths and weaknesses over their football history and pass that onto the coaching staff.
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Then I will stand corrected :cheers
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Then I will stand corrected :cheers
Then so do I because I think we both sort of kinda right ;D
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Here's the current full list of coaches:
Senior Coach - Damien Hardwick
Opposition Coach- Wayne Campbell
Defensive Structure & Strategy - Ross Smith
Stoppage Coach - Brendon Lade
Defensive & Training Coach - Justin Leppitsch
Midfield Coach - Danny Daly
Forward Coach - Mark Williams
Development Coach - Greg Mellor
Opposition and List Analyst - Blair Hartley
Have you mixed up these two or is that correct how it reads OE?
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Have you mixed up these two or is that correct how it reads OE?
Just checked the RFC site this is how they are listed:
Senior Coach - Damien Hardwick
Defensive Analyst - Ross Smith
Defenders Coach - Justin Leppitsch
Midfield Stoppage Coach - Brendon Lade
Midfield Spread Coach - Danny Daly
Forwards Coach - Mark Williams
Development Coach - Greg Mellor
Leadership Development and Opposition Analyst- Wayne Campbell
Opposition and List Analyst - Blair Hartley
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staff%20members/tabid/13343/default.aspx
So yep al - what Mr OE had was correct
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so has stig mixed them up then?
seems strange to bring in a midfield coach as a forward coach and move the forward coach to the midfield?
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Is 'Midfield Spread Coach' the stupidest title in the history of VFL/AFL football?
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Is 'Midfield Sread Coach' the stupidest title in the history of VFL/AFL football?
yep, even sillier than "midfield spread coach"
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Is 'Midfield Sread Coach' the stupidest title in the history of VFL/AFL football?
yep, even sillier than "midfield spread coach"
:rollin :rollin :rollin
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another straight from the clacker Big richo....did you know that west adelaide have had more AFL players produced than any other state league club in the country. :lol.......One word , highly rated...good get by the tigers :shh
East Freo have the Bloods well & truly covered for draft choices from club ranks.
Also would think that the Defensive coach would have enough on his plate without the additional development responsibility.
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In light of the addition of three new coaches (and the seeming extension of Campbell's contract) I was interested to read the following article about Cachia's pre-season training in a Super Rugby environment and particularly the emphasis on "aggressive power speed training" to improve speed over the first 20 to 40 metres.
Leading up to draft, game for a challenge
Rohan Connolly
November 16, 2011.
SCRUMS. Lineouts. Mauls. Not the sort of terminology you'd normally associate with an AFL draft hopeful, but something with which former Carlton rookie Jaryd Cachia has suddenly become very familiar.
Delisted by the Blues in September after two years on the rookie list, Cachia is in the middle of an intense three-week training program; not with another AFL club, but with Super Rugby team, the ACT Brumbies.
It was a move born out of necessity; Cachia having an end-of-season shoulder operation and on recovery, unable to even train with his old AFL club, which had taken off to Qatar and Abu Dhabi for a pre-season campaign. That was when Cachia took a call from his uncle Dean Benton, the Brumbies' athletic performance director.
''He just rang up and said, 'Once you're out of the sling, come up here and train with the rugby boys','' Cachia said yesterday. ''I didn't have anywhere to train, so I did it. I've been up here about a week, just working in the areas I need to improve on - such as my speed - and just getting myself fit again.''
But the unexpected turn of events is beginning to prove inspired. Cachia has an invitation to train with Essendon when he returns to Melbourne on Saturday week. And the Brumbies' arduous program is already making a difference. ''It was something certainly a bit left-field, but Dean had spoken to the club, and they were fine with it, and I've thoroughly enjoyed it so far. I think where it's been a real positive for me is that the program is really individualised. The conditioning staff really identify what each player needs to improve on, and they really emphasise that. The exercises in the gym have helped and the work outside on the pitch has been great.''
Cachia's sole experience of rugby before last week was in a few knockaround games he played while on a foreign exchange program. But he's already developed a whole new level of respect for a different football code.
''There's blokes here that are 100-odd kilograms who are quicker than an AFL midfielder,'' he said. ''Even some of the forwards, there are blokes who are 200 centimetres that could probably outrun most other midfielders. They're really powerful, strong men.''
Cachia, who played in Carlton's first-round NAB Cup games this year against Collingwood and Richmond, has made it his mission to improve his explosive speed off the mark after getting squeezed out of the Blues' burgeoning midfield stocks.
''They were pretty good about it,'' he said. ''They'd sat down as a match committee and looked at where they wanted to be in a couple of years and they like the midfield group they've got, so there won't be a lot of adjustment to it. There just wasn't enough spots for me.''
It was Benton who gave him the necessary pick-me-up just when it was needed. The respected fitness man, who has also worked with rugby league side the Brisbane Broncos, did some consulting work with Adelaide last season.
''He worked with a group of about 10-15 players, and he showed me the results of how much they'd improved their speed over the first 20 to 40 metres,'' Cachia said. ''That explosive starting speed is really important. That's what Dean looks after, and I really think it can help me improve.''
Cachia has already seen enough with the Brumbies to decide there's plenty that AFL clubs could learn from the rugby world.
''The speed training I've been doing I think is a lot more advanced than what I've had,'' he said. ''Here, it's really aggressive training. There's sled-pulling, plyometrics training [in which muscles are loaded then contracted in rapid sequence], there's a lot of explosive jumping and bounding, hopping. And there's a lot of agility work, where you're tied down; you've got these big elastic strength bands held around you to give resistance. It's really aggressive power speed training.''
Cachia says he's ''quietly confident'' he can find a new AFL home come draft time. ''If I wasn't, I probably wouldn't have worried about the work I'm doing at the moment,'' he said. ''I still think I've got a lot to offer a club … I still feel within myself that I can make an impact at AFL level.''
He'll certainly earn points for effort. Cachia is already highly regarded for his work ethic and attitude. Now, he might have won a whole new army of fans in the recruiting world for his preparedness to embrace the unorthodox.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/leading-up-to-draft-game-for-a-challenge-20111115-1nh5z.html#ixzz1dqI71zem
Perhaps rather than looking for any more football coaches it might be a better idea to seek out an athletic performance director like Benton from an elite sport like Super Rugby to focus on fitness development as a priority for young players, call it an "Athletic Development Manager".
We already have an Elite Performance Manager (Matthew Hornsby), Rehabilitation and Conditioning Coach (Terry Condon) and Strength & Conditioning Coach (Adam Douglas) so I guess it's probably out of the question and would require a lot of research to find the right person but personally think it's a better investment than another footy coach when we have eight already.
It's probably lusting after the type of role that Craig fills at Melbourne but where we need most effort - development - and doesn't interfere with existing fitness staff.
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Interesting article RT, thanks for posting it;
''He worked with a group of about 10-15 players, and he showed me the results of how much they'd improved their speed over the first 20 to 40 metres,'' Cachia said.
I can't recall seeing too many rugby players ever cover more than 20 metres in a single play. Sometimes one bloke might break the lines and manage a huffing and puffing 30 once or twice a game, but that would have to be it, tops.
Most likely Cachia's estimates are out by an order of magnitude - it's more believable that they've improved their speed over the first 2 to 4 metres. ;D
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Loris Bertolacci who was at the Cats for an extended time is strong into the dynamics, bounding and plyometrics as well. Matt Hornsby was working with Loris at Geelong before he came to the Tiges. Watch the training videos and it is obvious that we are doing some level of dynamic work.
On a side note, there is an issue with bounding as it applies the high shear forces to knees, ankles and hips.
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''There's blokes here that are 100-odd kilograms who are quicker than an AFL midfielder,'' he said. ''Even some of the forwards, there are blokes who are 200 centimetres that could probably outrun most other midfielders. They're really powerful, strong men.''
Absolute horsecrap. Yeah, one or two 100kg Rugby players might be quicker (explosively) than a few AFL midfielders but the above generalised statements are a complete crock of sh1te. There is not one Rugby player going around that would have the pace and stamina to outrun any AFL midfielder, not one.
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Loris Bertolacci who was at the Cats for an extended time is strong into the dynamics, bounding and plyometrics as well. Matt Hornsby was working with Loris at Geelong before he came to the Tiges. Watch the training videos and it is obvious that we are doing some level of dynamic work.
On a side note, there is an issue with bounding as it applies the high shear forces to knees, ankles and hips.
Bertolacci also got sacked by Geelong as part of the review that saw Thompson reduce his plethora of roles to concentrate more on gameday coaching. That review turned Geelong around and they were Premiers a very short time later. The season that led to his sacking saw Geelong as one of the unfittest (for AFL football) sides going around.
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''There's blokes here that are 100-odd kilograms who are quicker than an AFL midfielder,'' he said. ''Even some of the forwards, there are blokes who are 200 centimetres that could probably outrun most other midfielders. They're really powerful, strong men.''
Absolute horsecrap. Yeah, one or two 100kg Rugby players might be quicker (explosively) than a few AFL midfielders but the above generalised statements are a complete crock of pooe. There is not one Rugby player going around that would have the pace and stamina to outrun any AFL midfielder, not one.
I reckon these blokes could
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39392000/jpg/_39392263_quinnellbig144.jpg)
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Interesting article RT, thanks for posting it;
''He worked with a group of about 10-15 players, and he showed me the results of how much they'd improved their speed over the first 20 to 40 metres,'' Cachia said.
I can't recall seeing too many rugby players ever cover more than 20 metres in a single play. Sometimes one bloke might break the lines and manage a huffing and puffing 30 once or twice a game, but that would have to be it, tops.
Most likely Cachia's estimates are out by an order of magnitude - it's more believable that they've improved their speed over the first 2 to 4 metres. ;D
Muscles I think you've got the wrong game.
This is Super Rugby - Rugby UNION not League.
The point about Union is it is constant running with unlimited tackles. The bigger players that he talks about in the article are second rowers - typically the size of our rucks (Eales was one) who have to jump at Line-outs but must run to adjust and tackle repeatedly in defence, dive on the ball at mauls and run to support in attack.
I spent time in Queensland with a mate who was big into Union and he took me to games. I'd played Aussie Rules but those guys are the fittest fooballers anywhere. Constant running, constant ferocious hits with good skills required under constant physical pressure.
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Muscles I think you've got the wrong game.
This is Super Rugby - Rugby UNION not League.
The point about Union is it is constant running with unlimited tackles. The bigger players that he talks about in the article are second rowers - typically the size of our rucks (Eales was one) who have to jump at Line-outs but must run to adjust and tackle repeatedly in defence, dive on the ball at mauls and run to support in attack.
I spent time in Queensland with a mate who was big into Union and he took me to games. I'd played Aussie Rules but those guys are the fittest fooballers anywhere. Constant running, constant ferocious hits with good skills required under constant physical pressure.
I spent 20 years in Brisbane. You try telling those ning nong Queenslanders that. Union is definitely a much more pleasant game to watch than League, especially if you're from an Aussie Rules background. The players are of a higher standard than League too.
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Muscles I think you've got the wrong game.
This is Super Rugby - Rugby UNION not League.
The point about Union is it is constant running with unlimited tackles. The bigger players that he talks about in the article are second rowers - typically the size of our rucks (Eales was one) who have to jump at Line-outs but must run to adjust and tackle repeatedly in defence, dive on the ball at mauls and run to support in attack.
I spent time in Queensland with a mate who was big into Union and he took me to games. I'd played Aussie Rules but those guys are the fittest fooballers anywhere. Constant running, constant ferocious hits with good skills required under constant physical pressure.
I spent 20 years in Brisbane. You try telling those ning nong Queenslanders that. Union is definitely a much more pleasant game to watch than League, especially if you're from an Aussie Rules background. The players are of a higher standard than League too.
Yep, dead right Dwaino but there is no way that Rugby forwards could outrun AFL midfielders as a collective group. They are most definitely stronger (and I will include tougher), they might even explosively beat an AFL midfielder in a short burst once or twice but they would not ever outrun (for pace and stamina) an AFL midfielder over a full game of football, even over their gametime of 90 minutes.
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the rugby codes are different in the type of fitness required.
Aussie rules you need to be able to sprint repeatedly.
Rugby players get a lot more time to recover and they hardly ever make any big runs, its all in close contact.
To establish the stamina base reaquired for aussie rules will always detract from the power aspect, but like smokey, i dont believe there would be too many 100kg plus blokes quicker than AFL midfielders all the same.
I think the big difference between the types of fitness required is shown in that rugby players can back up and play 3-4 days later, probably not at 100%, but AFL players would really struggle to do that at all.
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On stamina the AFL has it over Union easily.
For explosive power I would back Union.
For repeat efforts I would hazard a guess that for the first 10 or so efforts the Union players (no's 4 through 15, i.e. excluding the front rowers) would hold the edge. From effort 15 onwards I would back the AFL guys.
Union players carry greater mass and power and the exercises they do are designed for that.
Based on my knowledge (and I used to follow a power regime) they bounding etc. that the Union guys do would be too damaging for the endurance that AFL is looking for.
I take the point on Loris B. But read his blog. Some interesting stuff there and he does know his stuff. His Brother in Law Gus was one of my coaches.
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On stamina the AFL has it over Union easily.
For explosive power I would back Union.
For repeat efforts I would hazard a guess that for the first 10 or so efforts the Union players (no's 4 through 15, i.e. excluding the front rowers) would hold the edge. From effort 15 onwards I would back the AFL guys.
Union players carry greater mass and power and the exercises they do are designed for that.
Based on my knowledge (and I used to follow a power regime) they bounding etc. that the Union guys do would be too damaging for the endurance that AFL is looking for.
I take the point on Loris B. But read his blog. Some interesting stuff there and he does know his stuff. His Brother in Law Gus was one of my coaches.
Agree with all that HKT. And on Loris B, I don't have any opinion on his conduct or ability, just remember him being part of the blame game that Geelong played at the time. I think he might have even taken them to court?
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Agree pretty much with what you've said HKT.
Seems you may watch a bit of sevens up there. ;)
Think young Cachia was exaggerating a bit but you'd hardly expect him to badmouth the Brumbies while using their staff and facilities.
BTW if anyones got a pic of the Jonah Lomu fend (Dusty style) then I'd appreciate them posting it to counter the cheeky snap of the Welsh front row.
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(http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39283000/jpg/_39283815_lomu300.jpg)
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Thanks Gerks.
He really was a monster when in full flight wasn't he?
Getting back to what was my main point:
What is the opinion regarding adding an Athletic Development Manager rather than another Football Development coach?
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Unstoppable. He's a hero of mine. Wish him all the best with his latest health scare.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsXTa7UCGlk
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at 0:45 he just mows some unfortunate pom down.
beast.
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Never went all in.
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Chabal's still my favourite.
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Greg Mellor
Happy to see him back.
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2007/07/21/va1237257843213/Greg-Miller-5577214.jpg)
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Post reported.
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Interesting article RT, thanks for posting it;
''He worked with a group of about 10-15 players, and he showed me the results of how much they'd improved their speed over the first 20 to 40 metres,'' Cachia said.
I can't recall seeing too many rugby players ever cover more than 20 metres in a single play. Sometimes one bloke might break the lines and manage a huffing and puffing 30 once or twice a game, but that would have to be it, tops.
Most likely Cachia's estimates are out by an order of magnitude - it's more believable that they've improved their speed over the first 2 to 4 metres. ;D
Muscles I think you've got the wrong game.
This is Super Rugby - Rugby UNION not League.
The point about Union is it is constant running with unlimited tackles. The bigger players that he talks about in the article are second rowers - typically the size of our rucks (Eales was one) who have to jump at Line-outs but must run to adjust and tackle repeatedly in defence, dive on the ball at mauls and run to support in attack.
I spent time in Queensland with a mate who was big into Union and he took me to games. I'd played Aussie Rules but those guys are the fittest fooballers anywhere. Constant running, constant ferocious hits with good skills required under constant physical pressure.
Oh, mea culpa. Thanks for pointing that out, RT.
If I understand correctly, they're talking about the thugs game played by gentlemen rather than the thugs game played by thugs.
When I watch that game all I see is a sort of constantly rolling stacks-on-the-mill sort of melee, with the odd knee-up at boundary throw-ins for comic relief. Those guys are tough, all righty and do a fair bit of running, but nothing like an AFL mid-fielder surely?
Do they wear GPS units to track how far they run in a game? How damage resistant are those thingees anyway?
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Joe Rokocoko who is the same height as Lids but over 100kgs hits 100m in 10.66 secs and can cover 40m in 4.66
and he's 28 and not the fastest or biggest unit out there
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AFL midfielders would have them on aerobic fitness, but union would have them anaerobically. Take that from someone who did the swap.
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Yeah but rugby union is for cashed-up planks. Take that from a bloke who is actually John Eales. :thumbsup
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is this one a development coach that is going to help develop the development coaches,or just another sub-par development coach?
Seriously-what a crock of poo the term,"Development coach" is.
GTF Out of here!!!
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ftr,it's an impossibility to coah someones "development"
One can only nurture the noun.
Development comes-u cant coach it FFS!