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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 11, 2011, 04:24:07 PM

Title: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: one-eyed on November 11, 2011, 04:24:07 PM
A Tiger supporter on the footytragic website has done a fairly detailed list analysis of Richmond:

http://www.footytragic.com/blog/team-depth-charts/richmond-tigers-list-analysis/
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: The Cotch on November 11, 2011, 06:33:25 PM
Cheers for the plug again !  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: tigtuff12 on November 11, 2011, 07:36:57 PM
...yeah, good in depth analysis mate...
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: Owl on November 11, 2011, 07:56:34 PM
Quote from: tigtuff12 on November 11, 2011, 07:36:57 PM
...yeah, good in depth analysis mate...
Your dots look sarcastic to me mate...
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on November 11, 2011, 07:58:29 PM
I dont like this, mate...
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: Owl on November 11, 2011, 08:15:37 PM
...what are you trying to ... say ...mate...
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: Owl on November 11, 2011, 08:18:12 PM
P.S.  I liked the analysis, good read.
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on November 11, 2011, 08:23:56 PM
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/mba/lowres/mban1510l.jpg)
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: Coach on November 11, 2011, 08:25:23 PM
good analysis :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: tigtuff12 on November 12, 2011, 11:48:23 AM
...more a habitually bad habit...the...dots...that...is....

thought it was a good analysis (damn that last line was hard to type without dots!!  think i'll go with exclamation marks from now on  :)
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: Owl on November 12, 2011, 01:44:19 PM
LOL, just giving you the shell grits
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: Chuck17 on November 12, 2011, 04:53:21 PM
hmmm i switched off a bit when he started blowing smoke up shed and jackos bum
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: mightytiges on November 13, 2011, 05:10:52 PM
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              Inside Mid    Outside Mid    Key Fwd    Med Fwd    Sml Fwd   Key Back    Med Back   Sml Back    Ruck       Utilty

18-21       Helbig             Conca        Griffiths    Macdonald                  Grimes     Batchelor
               Martin                                                                               Astbury        Dea
             
22-25      Cotchin           Connors     Riewoldt                       Nahas      Gourdis        Houli         Morris     Browne    Deledio
              Edwards         Webberley    Vickery                        White     McGuane                                     Derickx
               Grigg                                                                                 Rance                                        Graham
                                                                                                         Post                                           Maric

26-28       Foley                                                                   King       Moore   
              Jackson
                               
29+          Tuck                                Miller                                                        Newman              
The deficiencies in our list really stand out in this format. We'll probably lose 3 key backs - Moore (inj), Good and McGuane - by this time next year without blinking any eye. Tuck and Miller will most likely be gone as well as will at least one ruck. Our small forwards lack class and we lack quality outside mids apart from Conca and quality mid forwards.

Any reason why Edwards is classed as an inside mid Cotch?

Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: Penelope on November 13, 2011, 05:35:40 PM
His greatest asset is his ability to find time and space in congestion.

wasn't he ranked top 5 for clearances at the club last year?
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: mightytiges on November 13, 2011, 07:29:40 PM
Quote from: al on November 13, 2011, 05:35:40 PM
His greatest asset is his ability to find time and space in congestion.

wasn't he ranked top 5 for clearances at the club last year?
Edwards was equal 8th in centre clearances and 11th in contested possessions.

Ctr Clearances      Con. Poss.

1. Cotch   135                    1. Cotch    261
2. Foley     90                     2. Foley    213
3. Jacko     83                    3. Martin   194
4. Martin    82                    4. Lids      175
5. Lids       56                    5. Jacko    172
6. Grigg     44                    6. Jack      159
6. Tuck      44                    7. Nahas   149
8. Edwards 31                   8. Vickery  135
8. Vickery   31                   9. Grigg     127
10. Conca   30                  10. Houli     122
10. Gus      30                  11. Edwards 118

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/2011%20statistics/tabid/6315/default.aspx

Not really the numbers of an inside mid.
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: Coach on November 13, 2011, 07:36:58 PM
I remember some bloke telling me Edwards was harder at the footy then Mark Coughlan because he averaged more contested possies than uncontested possessions. Just thought I'd share that with you goats.

Look at Beefcake goooo. Top 10 for centre clearances, go all in.
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: Stripes on November 13, 2011, 08:31:10 PM
Interesting post MT. Endwards never sets up around the center bounce - only the wing. He is very much an outside player and this is his expected/alocated role.

What the lists really highlight is our dependence, and perhaps over reliance, on Cotch in the center contests. Makes us very  predictable to the opposition. We need Foley, Martin and perhps even Lids to shoulder some of this responsibility and ensure that our coaches make our stoppage strategies less one dimensional too.

As good as he is, we do not need a Rich scenerio in the midfield going forward.
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 13, 2011, 08:49:02 PM
Quote from: Stripes on November 13, 2011, 08:31:10 PM
Interesting post MT. Edwards never sets up around the center bounce - only the wing. He is very much an outside player and this is his expected/alocated role.

True but by sweeping off the wing into the centre, if he was the one to receive the kick handball from the inside mids then you'd expect his centre clearance numbers (that is the one getting it out of the centre square) to reflect that and it looks like they do
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: Penelope on November 13, 2011, 09:00:02 PM
Edwards' inside work, particularly by hand, is much better that his outside work.

 
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: Coach on November 13, 2011, 09:04:55 PM
his outside work isn't very good because he happens to be a poo kick. ;D
Title: Re: Richmond List Analysis (footytragic.com)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 24, 2011, 10:43:44 PM
Richmond current U22 side*. 

Dea. Grimes. Astbury.
Ellis. Rance. Morris.
Bachelor. Martin. Heslin.
Conca. Griffiths. Helbig.
Vickery. Riewoldt. MacDonald.
Elton. Cotchin. Arnot.
Browne. Post. Edwards.

+1 Gourdis/Connors.