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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on March 19, 2005, 08:33:38 PM
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looks better the more you see it. Glad they brought it back. The black outline around the numbers just tops it off :thumbsup
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Well, i was a fan of the plain back and yellow numbers because i find it hard to see at the best of times.
Will let you know what i think of it after i see 'em play. The numbers and the sash makes it look too busy now and i'm suspecting it will be a lot worse on us visually impaired :'(
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I wasn't fussed one way or another if the changed back to the full sash but now I reckon it is a massive winner.
The black outline around the number means the number doesn't get lost in the yellow sash like it used too.
The TAC should pretty happy as well - their logo comes up pretty clear too :thumbsup
The numbers and the sash makes it look too busy now and i'm suspecting it will be a lot worse on us visually impaired :'(
Get some new specs Moi ;) ;D
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I love it - I would prefer the tac logo to be fcuked off but that's footy these days :cheers
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Looks like I need a new jumper.
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lets face it , the sash on the back is our traditional jumper, we wone 10 flags with a sash on the back and zilch without!
its a winner, a winning jumper and really, even if they didnt outline the numbers , who cares if teh commentators cant see them , we know who they are thats what counts!
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Love it !!
The white numbers and the yellow sash really brightens up our jumpers as they were quite bland previously with the yellow numbers. Also they will look much better now with the white shorts as previously it looked like they didn't go with one another as there was no common color between them. The black outline makes a world of difference and it has been something i had suggested ages ago. The only problem I have is the design of the numbers themselves. They appear to be a bit short and stubby for my liking. I'd much prefer the traditional style numbers like what most other clubs use.
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I'm rapt with the new jumper.
The advantage of removing the sash was you could see the number more easily. You can see it even easier now with the sash back on.
I agree with you X. We know who the players are without having to see their number. The new numbers look good though.
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I'd have to say the more I look at the jumpers the more and more I like them. Just as a comparison look at the picture of the new tops posted by Mighty, then scroll to the top of the page of the picture of Richo's back where he's got his arms up and you immediately notice how much brighter and fresher the new ones look. As I've said before the old ones were dull and bland and felt un-complete without the entire sash. If anything the new numbers are easier to see as the bright white stands out better than the yellow. I think it's time to get a new jumper. Anyone know if all the numbers are now available - the number 3 is quickly going on the back of mine.
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We know who the players are without having to see their number.
Ms Magoo says, do we just lol
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Agree Harry. The plain black back and yellow numbers with the white shorts looked horrible. Still not as bad as the yellow ones from the 70's :P.
I'd take a guess and say shorter numbers mean the TAC logo is higher up on the back (and can't be half-tucked into the shorts) and for the double digit numbers both digits don't pass through the yellow sash so they're easier to see. I don't mind them a tad shorter. More soccer size now.
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Yeah, well spotted Mighty. Didn't think of that. The TAC sponsor is quite high now, almost at the middle of the back, which would probably explain the smaller numbers. And they are quite similar to soccer numbers as you say. I think Collingwood are the only other team with smaller numbers, and probably due to their TAC sponsorship aswell. The rest of the comp have the tradtional bigger numbers. Yeah they look pretty good and along with now having the best jumper in the league, we'll also stand out even more by having a different and more modern style of number.
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Geez its a bit of a gay looking photo though..
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Moe, you'd be happy too if you were a Richmond player and just got a new coach. :rollin
You cannot beat the traditional Richmond jumper. :thumbsup Don't know why we ever changed it.
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About time the fill sash was brought back :sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep
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Interesting to see what peoples thoughts on the jumpers were today?
I thought they were terrible!
Very hard to see the numbers, maybe they need to make the numbers a little longer and the outline a little thicker.
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The main problem most people around me were having was the 3 in front of another digit looked like a 4 for some bizarre reason. Hyde now and then looked like he was wearing 41 unless he had changed his jumper.
Other than that I didn't think they were too bad. Sure didn't make any difference to the way we played :P. I think the numbers aren't as big as they use to be so the TAC sponsorship is higher up on the back.
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It was a horrible day for me Bully, i could not make out numbers that were just in front of me :'(
The one's looked like threes. Tivendale i thought was 42 lol
And all around me, i wasn't the only one.
Told ya so :rollin
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Same here...all players in double digits lloked like their jumpers were in the 40s :banghead
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One way to fix it would be to make the "gaps" in the digits more obvious if you know what I mean like they use to be but with the black outline. At the moment the "gaps" in each digit are just black lines like the digit has been squished for a cosmetic touch. Also go back to a deeper yellow sash like the old days rather than the bright fluro yellow we kept from when Nike did our clothing.
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Same here...all players in double digits lloked like their jumpers were in the 40s :banghead
Ditto.
All double numbers were hard to read and I have good eye sight, pity the one-eyed supporters, wouldnt know who is who, hey buts thats nothing new ::)
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The yellow sash is not the problem - the black outline rectifies this. The problem is definately the new design of the numbers. If you compare our numbers to Geelongs (and every other team) you will see that ours are squashed in a way that there is no definite gap even in the middle of the number 0. Also our numbers don't cover the entire back of the jumper and are squashed in the middle.
Who was the braniac who came up with this design?
Simple solution - just get the same number design as all the other teams.
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Tigers' new stripes in strife
29 March 2005
Herald Sun
By Bruce Matthews
RICHMOND will ask its marketing and merchandising department to review the design of its new jumper.
The decision to revert to a yellow stripe across the back of the guernsey, to replace last season's all-black design, drew complaints that it was hard to make out the numbers.
Players wore the new strip at the MCG on Sunday and president Clinton Casey and other board members noted the numbers tended to blur, particularly from a distance.
Casey said the Tigers were committed to the new design for 2005, but the problem would be discussed to try to eliminate concerns.
"We like the design and the supporters love the concept. It seems to come up all right on the telly, but from a distance I found it difficult and I think a few other people did as well," Casey said.
"We won't make any changes for this year. But we'll certainly look at reviewing it to see if we can make any relevant changes to make it a little bit more visible.
"It wasn't that bad. But we can have a look at ways we might be able to make it clearer. Some numbers seemed to blur into each other."
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,12687334%255E19771,00.html
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My sight is not the greatest at the best of times and despite using binoculars it's almost impossible to make out the numbers particularly double digit ones.
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I said the yellow numbers without the sash was the best bet....dont know why we changed back.....
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The main problem most people around me were having was the 3 in front of another digit looked like a 4 for some bizarre reason. Hyde now and then looked like he was wearing 41 unless he had changed his jumper.
Yeah I got all excited thinking Scott Turner was making a comeback because I could have sworn I was seeing number 41. But it was Chris Hyde.
Then I thought who the hell is number 42 until I realsied it was Tivva in 32.
You could go on.
It is the size and shape of the number that's the problem not the sash being back IMO
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Who's idea was it to introduce this number design.
Solution - Get back to the numbers that all the other teams wear and have thicker black outlines. Will easily solve the problem.
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Make the numbers look like numbers especially the 0 and 3 plus make the yellow deeper.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/richmond/signed_tambling_jumper.JPG)(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/richmond/white_number_jumper.jpg)
Apologies for the crappy black outline but you get the idea.
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Take the sash off and make the numbers yellow and we'll be able to see it real good lol
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looks better the more you see it. Glad they brought it back. The black outline around the numbers just tops it off :thumbsup
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Just looked at this thread for the first time now.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO@Richo getting head!
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And not a wobbly in sight, John lol :shh
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And not a wobbly in sight, John lol :shh
lmfaooo :rollin Moi.
Looks like Richo is showing em how to feed the ball :gobdrop
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Take the sash off and make the numbers yellow and we'll be able to see it real good lol
Even the yellow numbers were too squashed last year.
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Make the numbers look like numbers especially the 0 and 3 plus make the yellow deeper.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/richmond/signed_tambling_jumper.JPG)(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/richmond/white_number_jumper.jpg)
Apologies for the crappy black outline but you get the idea.
Mighty, nice effort.
Can you try it again but this time only put a thick black outline on the yellow sash where the white and yellow actually meet. You've made the number a bit too skinny by putting the black outline on the white number. You can make the outline as thick as you want as it won't take away from the number, only the yellow sash. Put a nice thick outline and give us a look.
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Can you try it again but this time only put a thick black outline on the yellow sash where the white and yellow actually meet. You've made the number a bit too skinny by putting the black outline on the white number. You can make the outline as thick as you want as it won't take away from the number, only the yellow sash. Put a nice thick outline and give us a look.
Here you go Harry
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/richmond/white_number_jumper1.jpg)(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/richmond/white_number_jumper2.jpg)
If the black outline is too thick around the numbers it looks horrible. Better to remove the sash behind the number entirely.
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I actually like the first one (with the thick outline) better. The 30 really stands out and is very visible. The outline is a bit scruffy and it would look much better if it was straighter and neater. I think the first one can work quite successfully coz you can really see the number without taking away the sash completely. Mighty you should email the pic to the club so they can have a look at it. Thanks for your effort btw.
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I actually like the first one (with the thick outline) better. The 30 really stands out and is very visible. The outline is a bit scruffy and it would look much better if it was straighter and neater.
Cheers Harry. Just to clarify the jumper on the left has about as thick an outline you can have without it looking like a mess (the outlines hit each other if it's thicker). Any thicker and you're better off with sash removed from behind the digits.
Blame my free-hand mouse drawing skills for the scruffiness :P :shh.
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From the Hun:
The TAC sponsorship logo will remain on the players' guernseys for up to a month as the club orders replacements. The TAC will be expected to pay for the continued publicity.
Well at least we'll now be able to change the numbers on the back of the guernsey :-\.
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Saw a bit of the 1967 GF on the GF marathon and noticed the jumper numbers. There didn’t seem to be any issues with distinguishing the numbers and mainly because they were much bigger than the current numbers. The solution seems simple and obvious and surely couldn't be as confusing.
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Saw a bit of the 1967 GF on the GF marathon and noticed the jumper numbers. There didn’t seem to be any issues with distinguishing the numbers and mainly because they were much bigger than the current numbers. The solution seems simple and obvious and surely couldn't be as confusing.
You're spot on about the numbers TS. The sash was also thinner wasn't it and a darker yellow almost orange which helped as well.
Here's a B&W image from the 1969 GF. The large white numbers stand out.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/history/images/1969gf1_small.jpg)
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The 1967 footage shown was naturally in b+w. The sash was thinner, as in the 1969 shot you’ve got here, but I’m not really sure whether the yellow was more orangey in those days or not. In later years it was, as we know, and that’s how it was probably right up until Nike came on board back in 2001, I think.