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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on April 04, 2005, 03:54:32 AM
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Tiger out to Kayne critics
04 April 2005
Herald Sun
Scott Gullan
KAYNE Pettifer admits it's hard to take when you pick up the paper and your name is there under a story headlined: The worst draft picks ever.
So it's easy to understand why the boy from Kyabram was almost doing handstands at the MCG yesterday when he kicked the two match-winning goals to snap Richmond's 15-game losing streak.
Pettifer, 23, was taken at No. 9 in the 2000 draft and while he has battled for 38 games, those from the same draft include Nick Riewoldt, Justin Koschitzke, Alan Didak, Daniel Kerr and Adam McPhee.
"You always see in the papers saying they (Richmond) wasted a pick or they should have picked someone else," Pettifer said. "It does pee you off a fair bit and you want to have a good year and prove the critics wrong I suppose."
Yesterday will help Pettifer win over the Tigers faithful. Starting on the bench, Pettifer was lively across half-forward collecting 16 kicks with the final two – a set-shot from 30m and then a 50m bomb on the run – sealing the victory.
"It's been such a long time for us," he said. "I've copped a bit of flak over the years so I was pretty emotional . . . I didn't get to sing the song once last year."
He credits the faith new coach Terry Wallace has put in him.
"Terry backed me in," Pettifer said. "A lot of guys got the flick, a lot of my good mates have gone, like Simon Fletcher."
Wallace revealed afterwards that as Bulldogs coach he had looked hard at the promising Murray Bushrangers forward.
"The first day I walked in the door I told him that I thought he could play when I was at the Western Bulldogs and that we looked at him as a high draft selection," he said.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,12744552%255E19742,00.html
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Kayne's still got a long way to go to prove the knockers wrong but at the moment he's doing the job asked of him well. A HF flanker scoring 2-3 goals per game is a good return. If he could keep that up that would equate to 40-50 goals for the season.
Just on his goal celebrations, it good to see some pride and passion back into the team when Richo, Deledio and co rang over to celebrate.
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What number did Didak go in that draft?
He's not much better in my book.
Kick on Kayne please.
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Impressed with Kanes game yesterday. His best game so far IMO. He is probably our best kick of the footy, always knew that, but what impressed me most was that he was composing himself more and not panicking, choosing the right option more times than not. Some of his delivery into the forward 50 was first class. In the third quarter he dissected the hawks with a precise delivery off the half back flank into the middle which lead to a goal. During his last goal he showed alot of poise and summed it up well, didn't rush. This is what he needs to do and needs to work on - his composure, and not panicking. He has a beautiful kick and 9 times out of ten he will find a teamate whether it be long or short IF he doesn't panick and kick blindly. Also he needs to work on his one on ones as he seems to be all over the place while fighting for the ball - he needs to compose himself, show urgency and keep his head over and eyes fixed on the ball.
Keep it up Kane.
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Well said Harry. Kayne's one of the most precise kicks especially over long distances at the Club. Showed that towards the end of last year when he was asked to do the kick-ins. He's gone from cetain delisting to reasonable player since then.
Agree about not panicking Harry. Something that has been a problem for him at RFC. Use to run around like a headless chook. I reckon he's made a effort to put his body on the line now. He doesn't shirk contests although I agree he needs to work on his 1-on-1 skills. When Everitt had a free in the centre in the last quarter but was held up Kayne let Hodge get away despite having plenty of time to man-up. Still a rare mistake in a very good game from Kayne.
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To me right now he is nothing more than another Adam Houlihan and at this stage that's probably a compliment to him.
If he puts together a solid year kicking 30+ goals and gets about 15 touches per game I'll reassess. This little punk owes us big time.
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This little punk owes us big time.
Cant agree with that. When you dont give him a run in 3 years what do you expect? You say gee in 5 years he hasn't come along. Well gee Spud how about giving him a run and seeing if he should be gone or not.
I expect him to continue as he has and to prove critics wrong this year. Time will only tell.
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I think he should have done a lot more (in previous years) for the time that he has been on. The biggest problem has been that he has shown himself to be a soft touch in previous years and was IMO rightfully given short thrift because of it.
I do hope he comes good though. Encouraging first couple of weeks. Has a lovely kick.
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This is the year OR bust.
He's skilled and has a football brain but has been lacking in confidence and match time.(funny about that :shh)
If he continues to present an improvement on last year,which was prob his best thus far,
we'll be in for a bonus.
I've swung to Kanes side.
Cmon kid,stick it up us all !! :thumbsup
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He is on the edge of the team at the moment in my opinion.
Fair dues, he has kicked a few each game, and I am very happy with his last 5 minutes of football this year where he has looked dangerous when he has the pill.
But to me, thats just 5 minutes. He plays on confidence, so lets hope he can get himself more ball and do some damage with it.
Saying that of course, there are 3 or so far worse offenders in the team at the moment than him
You know who you are Tiv, Andy K, Krak.
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I was speaking to a guy at work today who knows Kayne,
he said that he has been going out with this beautiful model for a while now and he thinks that she has calmed him down a lot and brang him back to earth. This combined with the fact that he has also matured a little with age.
I agree with most comments in the fact that he still has a way to go, but in saying that you cant really fault him too much so far this year. I seen him play a couple of practise games and he also played fairly well in those.
Will be interesting if he continues to improve if he gets the chance to play a little in the middle, where he dominated at under 18 level.
Good luck Kayne
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To me right now he is nothing more than another Adam Houlihan and at this stage that's probably a compliment to him.
If he puts together a solid year kicking 30+ goals and gets about 15 touches per game I'll reassess. This little punk owes us big time.
u r a bit harsh on kayne as u r many players in our team, maybe u could do better!!!!
now how could kayne give us better servixce in th epast whe dumb stuff df was coaching.
i know 4 a fact df hated kayne and never gave him a chance, and when he did , he was on and off the ground, on and off!
he is by far the best kick in our team, he just was never given the chance by that moron coach we had, tw believes in him, he has showed that already and kayne will become the best hff in the afl , wait n c!
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Here is an interesting question that will cross-reference two current topics:
Pets is currently in his 5th year. Kraks in his 3rd.
Who do you feel has been given the most opportunity at our club and who has grown the most?
I know its hard to judge because they have been at the club for different lengths, but frankly Kraks has an exceptional talent that Pets does not, so I figure it counters for the two-year that Pets was NOT played.
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Here is an interesting question that will cross-reference two current topics:
Pets is currently in his 5th year. Kraks in his 3rd.
Who do you feel has been given the most opportunity at our club and who has grown the most?
I know its hard to judge because they have been at the club for different lengths, but frankly Kraks has an exceptional talent that Pets does not, so I figure it counters for the two-year that Pets was NOT played.
Sorry OM - Krakouer and Pettifer were drafted in the same year - 2000 - along with Newman, Hyde and Coughlan. They've had the same amount of years. It's Kraks 5th year also and he better lift!
2001 - Rodan
2002 - Schulz
2003 - Hartigan, Roach, Raines, Jackson, Gilmour, Archibald, Tuck, Morrison
2004 - Deledio, Tambling, Meyer, Pattison, Polo, McGuane, Limbach, Graham
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Please tell me your joking.........
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Please tell me your joking.........
Not joking mate. You can see why people are a bit disappointed in Krak.
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Please tell me your joking.........
Not joking mate. You can see why people are a bit disappointed in Krak.
its rnd 2!
ive seen his cv, love to see urs, how many tigers guernseys have u worn?
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Geez Geez X-Cited you have lost the plot. Where did anyone say that WE are better than him? What is with this wild defending of players who don't deserve it?
His CV matches to about Wayne Hernaman's......I still cant beleive he has been around for 5 years...
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Geez Geez X-Cited you have lost the plot. Where did anyone say that WE are better than him? What is with this wild defending of players who don't deserve it?
His CV matches to about Wayne Hernaman's......I still cant beleive he has been around for 5 years...
1/ his first 2 years he was on our list but never played!! to small to young!
2/ last year by rnd 6 everyone was seeing a gr8 little player in him then our season went awol
3/ for phucks sake , i havent lost the plot, u guys have, its round phucking 3 coming up! listen to u guys! and he does deserve it! in 2 ronds he has ben quiet and kicked 2 goals, one week he will kick 1 maybe 1 the next, then 2 and maybe a 3 then back to a 1, but he will kick 30+ goals this year and thats all he has to do! s hit, its only 2 games so far1 bloody hell no wonder tiger fans have the worst rep in this phucking comp!
in 2 rounds this year chris judd has done sweet f all, lets see what the eagle fans are saying!
the g train , whats he done! thus far!
milne another pocket player!!!!! whats he done!!!!!
phil matera another one !!!!!!!!!
do u want me to go on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Geez Geez X-Cited you have lost the plot. Where did anyone say that WE are better than him? What is with this wild defending of players who don't deserve it?
His CV matches to about Wayne Hernaman's......I still cant beleive he has been around for 5 years...
4 years actually. This is his 5th. As he was drafted as a project bottom aged player, you can basically discount his first year as he probably shouldn't have been drafted in 2000. So in effect he has had 3 years in the system and is on par with the likes of Rodan, Kelly, Bartel, Ablett (and probably 5 other Geelong regulars - geez Geelong raped that 2001 draft - probably the best ever) Judd, Ball, Hodge etc. in terms of age and years of development.
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OMG X-Cited......I give up with you. You keep mentioning Round 2 and you blame his poor form last year on the 'team going awol'. That doesn't cut it....sorry. I hope he proves the critics wrong, but I dont see it. And remember, we dont go out and cheer for him to play bad.......we are just saying that he is taking a spot in the 22 and we are not getting return for it. Plain and Simple.
If you tell me that you supported Bowdo being captain, Im throwing my laptop in the bin.
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Coach's 'Pet' fires
24 April 2005
Sunday Herald Sun
Howard Kotton
By the end of last season his future at Richmond was in doubt, but Kayne Pettifer is proving a vital part of the Tigers' renaissance, reports Howard Kotton.
AT the end of last season, Kayne Pettifer knew he was under pressure to retain his spot on Richmond's list. He had read the newspapers and the drums were beating.
Enter a new coaching panel, headed by Terry Wallace, and suddenly his worst fears were allayed.
"I thought I finished last year off OK," said Pettifer, who kicked four goals against Melbourne in Round 17 before succumbing to knee and ankle problems.
"I didn't think I would get the flick, but there was a bit in the paper . . . and it did cross my mind. There were a few doubts there and I got nervous at a couple of stages.
"When Terry first came down, he backed me in and thought I had a bit to offer. That helped me have a pretty good pre-season.
"I know I've copped a bit of flak, but Terry has shown a fair bit of faith in me and given me confidence to go out there and get the ball."
Pettifer has justified Wallace's faith in him, kicking six goals in four matches this season.
The much-maligned forward was instrumental in Richmond's Round 2 win over Hawthorn, booting two goals in a tight last quarter to ensure the Tigers' first victory after 15 home-and-away defeats.
"I didn't sing the (club) song once last year, so I got pretty pumped up after that (win)," said Pettifer, who played 10 senior matches last year. "I knew after I kicked that last goal that we were going to win."
Pettifer had an ankle reconstruction at the end of last season, but has worked hard to impress the new hierarchy. He has been helped by assistant coaches David King and David Wheadon, the latter giving him specialist tuition with his goalkicking.
Former skipper Wayne Campbell, used off the Tigers' bench this year rotating through the midfield and up forward, has also provided help.
"Wayne is very smart," Pettifer said. "He always ends up with 20 touches and brings blokes into the game with his smarts and skills. If he is not getting the ball, he's telling you where to go to get it."
Pettifer is part of a new-look Richmond attack. The Tigers no longer rely on Matthew Richardson and Nathan Brown to kick most of their goals; now there are others to share the load.
Last weekend the Tigers' tall forwards contributed 10 of their side's 14 goals (Richardson six, Greg Stafford two, and Trent Knobel and Troy Simmonds one).
"With Richo down there, there's a lot of big blokes for the opposition to mind and they can be a handful," Pettifer said.
The potency in Richmond's attack has not been the only outstanding feature of its past three wins. The Tigers' midfield -- led by the improving Chris Hyde, Shane Tuck and a fit Mark Coughlan -- has worked hard and provided plenty of opportunities up forward.
"Shane Tuck has been playing some really good footy, and Hydey has taken the next step and become one of our main midfielders," Pettifer said. "With 'Cogs' getting back to form, it's very exciting."
After making a disastrous start to the season against Geelong, Richmond has won its past three matches, but the Tigers face their stiffest test against St Kilda at Telstra Dome this evening.
The game will mark the first appearances by Knobel and Saint Aaron Fiora against their former clubs and the 200th senior game by Tiger defender Darren Gaspar.
"St Kilda was a kick off playing in the Grand Final last year and they beat the in-form Melbourne last weekend," Pettifer said. "This is going to show us where we're at if we're going to play finals.
"After the first game, we copped a fair bit of stuff in the media, but we had a fair bit of self-belief. There are a lot of guys who are playing with a lot more confidence."
Pettifer, 23, is in his fifth season since being taken at No.9 at the 2000 national draft. Tonight's match will be his 42nd game for the Tigers and he aims to complete a full season in the seniors for the first time this year.
"I thought I could have been gone, but in the end I hope I can get to 50 (games) and finish the year well," he said. "It will be a good achievement from where I sit."
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,15060667%255E19771,00.html
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Pettifer had an ankle reconstruction at the end of last season, but has worked hard to impress the new hierarchy. He has been helped by assistant coaches David King and David Wheadon, the latter giving him specialist tuition with his goalkicking.
This isn't the first this year that I've read or heard from a player giving Wheadon credit. If he's not a bad assistant coach why was he made "only" an opposition analyst last year given the ability or rather lack of it of the previous coaching staff ???.
"St Kilda was a kick off playing in the Grand Final last year and they beat the in-form Melbourne last weekend," Pettifer said. "This is going to show us where we're at if we're going to play finals.
One week at a time Kayne ;). After the past couple of years we're not in a position as a Club to mention us and the "F" word in the same sentence. Even if we pull off a win today it's only round 5.
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One week at a time Kayne ;). After the past couple of years we're not in a position as a Club to mention us and the "F" word in the same sentence. Even if we pull off a win today it's only round 5.
LoL, I've dropped plenty of F-bombs over the Tigers in recent years MT. ;D
lmfaoooo@pettifer's game.
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LoL, I've dropped plenty of F-bombs over the Tigers in recent years MT. ;D
lmfaoooo@pettifer's game.
LOL
Yep Pets was quiet. One of 9 of our guys to have less than 10 possies. The Saints only had 3.
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Towards the end of last season he showed doing the kick-ins he possessed a long accurate kick but sheesh where did those 60 metre roosts for a goal come from. It sure wasn't a fluke because he did twice on Saturday. That's one way to beat a flood :thumbsup.