One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: 10 FLAGS on March 29, 2012, 10:30:38 PM
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People may not like this but we DO NOT DESERVE to Open the season against Carlton in Round 1. The AFL should take it off us. The club may like the money from the gate etc. but we dont deserve this fixture.
We are still a rabble. No pride, no commitment to success, nothing. When we become a half competent side then maybe it should happen but once again the club has failed on the big stage and the club and its supporters have been ridiculed by an arch enemy.
It makes me sick. The players should either grow some balls or stuff off!
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Be nice to play Port at the MCG on Sunday arvo next year.
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David King was right! :outtahere
We need a Sunday afternoon game at the G against Port or GWS to kick off the season.
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It is getting a bit predictable
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I think tonight should be the end of the R1 fixture against Carlton. We are no where near them and its getting ridiculous. At least if we were competitive and lost by say 2 goals then you could make a case, but every year we just get flogged. Enough already.
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David King was right! :outtahere
We need a Sunday afternoon game at the G against Port or GWS to kick off the season.
When he said that I reluctantly agreed. Let someone else have the media beat up. Give it to the Bummers like they wanted. Let Robbo talk them up in the weeks leading up and sit back and enjoy the fallout. Like they all do with us.
I'm not completely shattered, but I'm finally conceding this one. I'll no longer defend our season opener privilege.
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Bloody sooks... We had nearly 80k there and we deserve it.... We just have go get better and believe ... We choked tonight and will be better off.
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Daniel Jackson.
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Daniel Jackson.
This and our other lower tier is the problem.
Not pride or committment.
Effort was there however.....
Yep its disappointing reality is Carlton is a top 4 side we are an emerging 6-10 side.
Calm down and things will be clearer boys.
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Over the opening round 1 stuff, should be the Grand Final replay.
Give us a home game against Port or Brisbane next year.
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Can't believe people still want this game
To lose against the scum is one thing but to know they quietly gloat for 6 months when the draw is released how their season will be off to a flyer is another thing
How people enjoy that is beyond me. Even if we play them rd 4 we will still get 70-80k so WTF are we doing playing them rd 1
stuff it off
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It won't matter if it's round 1 or round 10. Until we can not only compete but handle pre-match expectation and win these hyped up big games then we will remain also-rans.
We deserved this fixture because the AFL knows we fill the 'G even when we are losing. 30 years of crap and we still have nearly 80k rock up last night.
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People may not like this but we DO NOT DESERVE to Open the season against Carlton in Round 1. The AFL should take it off us. The club may like the money from the gate etc. but we dont deserve this fixture.
We are still a rabble. No pride, no commitment to success, nothing. When we become a half competent side then maybe it should happen but once again the club has failed on the big stage and the club and its supporters have been ridiculed by an arch enemy.
It makes me sick. The players should either grow some balls or stuff off!
I agree with the last part. No pride no commitment etc. But I don't think we should abandon this fixture. We should suffer the consequences of embarrassment until the guys can learn what it takes to be a top four side. What it means to play with pride for the jumper.
Last night I didn't see any "fight & fight to win".
One day it will all come together. I think Hardwick knows what he needs & is on the right track but I still reckon we are 2 years away from finals.
What I wanted to see last night was our senior guys stand up & lead the way.
The most disappointing aspect to me was there was no leadership from guys who have been around a while desperately want to play finals but don't show the team & the youngsters how desperate they are. Lids, Newman, Jackson & Jack were the biggest disappointment on the night.
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It won't matter if it's round 1 or round 10. Until we can not only compete but handle pre-match expectation and win these hyped up big games then we will remain also-rans.
We deserved this fixture because the AFL knows we fill the 'G even when we are losing. 30 years of crap and we still have nearly 80k rock up last night.
It does matter if it's rd 1 or 10, because having this game in rd 1 ensures that (a) we will always start our season off with a loss, and (b) we will always have to play them twice every year, for 2 losses.
I'd like to see us play someone else in rd 1, until like someone else mentioned, we actuallygrow a pair.
At the end of last year's AGM, I approached Chris Newman, and basically pleaded with him for the team to make a concerted effort to beat Carlscum in rd 1 this year, mentioning the pact that the players had apparently made to take a big scalp. The way he backtracked at a million miles an hour, saying that the media had misquoted them wasn't very encouraging to say the least. There seems to be a huge stumbling block there in the players collective belief, and until we smash it down, unfortunately Carlscum will continue to own us.
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Do we deserve it? Based solely on getting a massive crowd, great $$$ and wanting to be front square round 1then YEP
Should we ask for it? NOPE - if we are going to turn up and then roll over in the last 20 minutes then we should look at a softer start because I will admit to being sick of losing round 1 and the Club should be also ;D
Will the AFL take it off us? Doubt it because they want a big traditional rival blockbuster for round 1 and lets be honest it seems no team generates hype like we can :-\ ;D :'( :lol
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Win or lose, we still want Blues - Newman (AFL Site)
By Matt Thompson
10:00 AM Fri 30 Mar, 2012
RICHMOND has no plans to abandon its traditional round one encounter against Carlton, skipper Chris Newman says.
Despite a fourth consecutive loss to the Blues in the opening round of the season on Thursday night, Newman believes it's a fixture worth playing.
"We always love to play Carlton round one and it's always a big occasion," Newman told AFL.com.au.
"Next year if we're playing round one against Carlton then hopefully it's a different result," he said.
More than 78,000 fans watched Carlton run out 44-point winners, emphasising the traditional match-up's importance on the football calendar.
On Friday morning, Tigers players arrived with glum faces for recovery at Punt Rd.
And the task doesn't get easier with matches against Collingwood, Melbourne, Geelong and West Coast in the next month.
"It's disappointing, there's obviously a lot of expectation around round one," Newman said.
"It's a long season so we'll just have to look at what we did wrong and during the week try and rectify that and come out nice and strong against Collingwood."
Matt Thompson is a reporter at AFL Media. Follow him on Twitter at @MattThompsonAFL
Exclusive to AFL BigPond Network
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/131841/default.aspx
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78k say keep it. We'll win one soon enough.
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Carlton's window is this year and next .
Hopefully we can step up this year and next . May not equate into a win but I cannot see us beating the filth until 2014 when thay are on the slide and we hopefully will be a top 6 side.
Then we may own them for a period of 3-5 years while they get their house in order as I see no young kids coming through at this stage.
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I'm just sick of losing to the fllthy Bluebaggers! I wouldn't mind it so much if it occured in any other round of the year but the first round is such a let down. All preseason we all wait, hope and get excited building up to the season proper only to have that all dashed every year. I don't care what this means financially and it shouldn't to the club either, otherwise we would be selling games interstate left right and center. I just want to start the year off on a positive so take the game away! :banghead
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I cant believe so many people want to be molly coddled.
MT hit the nail on the head, otherwise we as well ask to be demoted to the VFL so we can play weak sides every week.
If we want any change to early season, its to ask to play sides that will give us a good work out in the pre season. A half strength geelong and then GWS turns out to be not such an ideal preparation for the real stuff
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I cant believe so many people want to be molly coddled.
MT hit the nail on the head, otherwise we as well ask to be demoted to the VFL so we can play weak sides every week.
If we want any change to early season, its to ask to play sides that will give us a good work out in the pre season. A half strength geelong and then GWS turns out to be not such an ideal preparation for the real stuff
Bingo, really was a soft build up
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I cant believe so many people want to be molly coddled.
MT hit the nail on the head, otherwise we as well ask to be demoted to the VFL so we can play weak sides every week.
If we want any change to early season, its to ask to play sides that will give us a good work out in the pre season. A half strength geelong and then GWS turns out to be not such an ideal preparation for the real stuff
you think we lost to the scum because of our build up to Rd 1. Well what about the scum they could hardly beat the Na Na Goon seconds yet still managed to smash up by 7 goals.
Il tell you something for free we lost not because of our build up or it was because we are not good enough. Our top players went missing(Foley/Cotch aside)and our bottom 6 were a joke. Jack was selfish as always. Seems sometimes the blokes only cares about his own numbers.
If we continue to play your Tambling aka Edwards/Jackson types then we we will get smashed each and every time.
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to be honest when i knew the margin would be 50ish i was in one way hoping it would blow out to 60/70 to really give the afl no choice but to take it away from us
what an embarrassment display that gets shown to us supporters every year
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I cant believe so many people want to be molly coddled.
MT hit the nail on the head, otherwise we as well ask to be demoted to the VFL so we can play weak sides every week.
If we want any change to early season, its to ask to play sides that will give us a good work out in the pre season. A half strength geelong and then GWS turns out to be not such an ideal preparation for the real stuff
you think we lost to the scum because of our build up to Rd 1. Well what about the scum they could hardly beat the Na Na Goon seconds yet still managed to smash up by 7 goals.
Il tell you something for free we lost not because of our build up or it was because we are not good enough. Our top players went missing(Foley/Cotch aside)and our bottom 6 were a joke. Jack was selfish as always. Seems sometimes the blokes only cares about his own numbers.
If we continue to play your Tambling aka Edwards/Jackson types then we we will get smashed each and every time.
If you want to look at it sensibly, carlton had games against sides that were competitive. we won our last two games easily against a side that didn't give an eff and one that is unable to apply or absorb pressure for any length of time. we had no where near the pressure put on us in either of those games that carlton did last night. If you think that is an ideal preparation you are mad.
look at the difference in the way carlton handled the pressure we put on them. they always managed to get the ball out to someone clear, where as we fumbled, made poor decisions and poorly executed disposal due to the pressure put on us.
that comes down to a number of factors, experience being a major one, but can you say, honestly and seriously, that our last two pre season games were a good preparation to handle the pressure carlton applied?
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The NAB cup is a waste of time. Absolute waste of time.
Get rid of the byes and extend team lists to counter player fatigue. Until we get to a fixture where you play each team home and away in each season, whether its in a conferences or whatever the fixture will always be compromised.
Is there a sport or competition in the world, even at local level where you play a full season and play half the teams twice and the other teams once at random?
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Agree Popelord.
NAB has to go.
Unless ALL teams take it seriously.
Carlton cheated in the NAB series.
It should be a competition every team aims to win.
Complete waste of time imho.
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In the throw to Channel 10 sport they said "winners are grinners" accompanied with some absolutely sickening footage of Betts, Judd and Waite arriving at training with smug grins from ear to ear. Then Steve Quarterbrain chipped in with a line about "after their traditional win over the Tigers", and a smug little half-smile. THIS is why I want this round one debacle to end. To the whole football world a big win to the SCUM has just become a fait accomplis, and we are once again the laughing stock of the competition. It's just excruciatingly unbearable IMO opinion to have to front up to these c****'s twice a season, year in year out and have to wear the same result over and over and over again with no hope of a change in the result.
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yeah, lets just give up, roll over and play turtle.
lets go to the afl and say, were not good enough, can we only poo sides from now on
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yeah, lets just give up, roll over and play turtle.
lets go to the afl and say, were not good enough, can we only poo sides from now on
There are no poo sides. Everyone will give you a contest. But what's wrong with changing it up?What's wrong with at least playing someone you have a HOPE of beating?? Last night was the best chance we had of breaking the hoodoo with five of their top players out, and at least two or three more underdone, and we STILL couldn't get within 7 goals of them. It's just plain demoralising to front up every year and have this crap happen. You must have a high tolerance for pain and frustration Al, coz me I'm just fed up to the back teeth and SICK of it!!! And if their knuckle-dragging,one-eyebrowed ass clown supporters clap me out of the stadium one more time, I swear I'm going to start throwing punches.
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Time for some cups of concrete.
who cares if they clap us off, their mob won, they get to gloat, thats the rules, wait and see how it burns them when its our turn, it will be sweet.
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I don't buy into the play a soft target in round 1. Why? So we can then hype ourselves up and then in rd 4 when we play the filth or the scums or Hawthorn we cop a similar type of scoreline and then say no wonder we get no blockbusters and we will never learn and we will never succeed.
I've said it before hark back to the day after our round 1 loss in 2009. Now hark back to when Hardwick got the job. If we think for a second and yes I have been guilty of this too we all knew the magnitude of his job.
Last night merely showed how far we still have to go. After 30 years we are just sick of waiting and our responses are justing getting more and more desperate thinking our time will never come.
Lets say this. We finish 8th this year which will be an achievement and play Carlton or Sydney and get flogged by 10 goals are we worse off for making the finals in this developmental stage, because we lose these big games or are we better off for the experience and the development of our players and game plan throughout the season where the reality and clinical nature of finals will expose our lesser tier players for the duds we are and there the turnover of players since Hardwick took over goes to about 30-40?
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People may not like this but we DO NOT DESERVE to Open the season against Carlton in Round 1. The AFL should take it off us. The club may like the money from the gate etc. but we dont deserve this fixture.
We are still a rabble. No pride, no commitment to success, nothing. When we become a half competent side then maybe it should happen but once again the club has failed on the big stage and the club and its supporters have been ridiculed by an arch enemy.
It makes me sick. The players should either grow some balls or stuff off!
10flogs ---> Emo! :-X
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I cant believe so many people want to be molly coddled.
MT hit the nail on the head, otherwise we as well ask to be demoted to the VFL so we can play weak sides every week.
If we want any change to early season, its to ask to play sides that will give us a good work out in the pre season. A half strength geelong and then GWS turns out to be not such an ideal preparation for the real stuff
you think we lost to the scum because of our build up to Rd 1. Well what about the scum they could hardly beat the Na Na Goon seconds yet still managed to smash up by 7 goals.
Il tell you something for free we lost not because of our build up or it was because we are not good enough. Our top players went missing(Foley/Cotch aside)and our bottom 6 were a joke. Jack was selfish as always. Seems sometimes the blokes only cares about his own numbers.
If we continue to play your Tambling aka Edwards/Jackson types then we we will get smashed each and every time.
If you want to look at it sensibly, carlton had games against sides that were competitive. we won our last two games easily against a side that didn't give an eff and one that is unable to apply or absorb pressure for any length of time. we had no where near the pressure put on us in either of those games that carlton did last night. If you think that is an ideal preparation you are mad.
look at the difference in the way carlton handled the pressure we put on them. they always managed to get the ball out to someone clear, where as we fumbled, made poor decisions and poorly executed disposal due to the pressure put on us.
that comes down to a number of factors, experience being a major one, but can you say, honestly and seriously, that our last two pre season games were a good preparation to handle the pressure carlton applied?
Al if you think the Blues were really trying in the NAB cup then you are kidding yourself.
Like the Cats they couldnt care less using it as a tool to try different things.
Take the Swans as another example. Under Roos they were smashed in almost every pre season game yet season proper always came to play. NAB cup is an absolute joke as is our traditional Rd 1 match.
Supporters crap on about how much money it makes the club well again i hate to tell you we would make equal to if not more if we played the Blues in say Rd 3/4 after being 2/2 or 3/1.
Because of our loss against the Blues we will now get less numbers at the Pies game than if we say played and beaten a Port or a Bummers. FACT!!
We don't need it and for once i agree with Andy the greek. We don't deserve the big stage that honour should go to the top teams.
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Another dose of Blues for Tigers
Jake Niall
The Age
March 31, 2012
DOES Richmond really need to play Carlton in the season's first mega-match?
The marketing and finance department, doubtless, would say it does, its case supported by 78,000 on Thursday night. The football department, whatever it thinks, has to accept the challenge.
But the fans might have misgivings. Carlton has been much better than Richmond over the period in which this fixture was established and therein lies the problem. As ex-Tiger assistant coach and North player David King jested at the SEN season launch, for Richmond fans, there was ''only 14 more sleeps before your season ends''. King, indeed, advocates the Tigers playing an interstate team in round one here, rather than risking round-one deflation.
Richmond's season did seem to end in 2009, when the pre-season hot-air balloon - greatly inflated by the arrival of Ben Cousins - was pricked within 15 minutes. By the end of that match, media crosshairs were already trained on Terry Wallace. In Damien Hardwick's first game in 2010, Tiger hopes were likewise dashed early.
Last year was more encouraging - the Tigers led at three-quarter-time before getting overrun. This year, they pushed the Blues for three quarters, without ever seeming capable of winning. A relatively credible performance was undone with one dismal quarter and by some awful blunders, especially in defence. Still, it is only round one, and any premature assessment of Richmond should be tempered by the fact it was playing a very capable premiership contender. The Blues had issues in their back line, due to the absence of Michael Jamison and Nick Duigan, but it was easy to forget (as some of us did) who was playing.
These included a fully recovered Matthew Kreuzer, a springy Jarrad Waite, the electrifying Chris Yarran, slick Eddie Betts, the super midfield partnership of Chris Judd and Marc Murphy, Kade Simpson, Heath Scotland, blue-collar toiler Andrew Carrazzo and, perhaps most crucially, Bryce Gibbs.
Always important, Gibbs becomes critical when the Blues have a hole somewhere, since he is the one gun who can play in all parts of the ground.
Like Luke Hodge, he's devastating when loose behind the ball.
Brett Ratten, knowing he had a hole in defence, put Gibbs back as the ''plus one'' from the first bounce. This seemed to calm the Carlton defence. Richmond, which placed Chris Newman in the same role, calculated that having Gibbs loose was preferable to having an extra Blue around the stoppages.
Whether it was Gibbs or someone else, Carlton protected Lachie Henderson from one-out contests with Jack Riewoldt for much of the night; Riewoldt somehow scrounged four goals, but wasn't as potent as he was in the same game 12 months ago. And he had no foil - Tyrone Vickery was horrendous. Carlton swingman Bret Thornton said Henderson had performed well, despite Riewoldt's four majors.
Hardwick was disappointed with the final-quarter fade-out, which was attributed to losing the contested ball (which the Tigers had led to this stage) by 19 for the term.
''The last quarter, to go down by 19, was poor and those 50-50 contests if you don't win them, they go the other way and they score.''
Carlton's advantage in the contests was apparent late, as the Tigers tired. In a more telling sign of their maturation, the Blues punished Richmond's blunders - dropped marks at each end, fumbles by Bachar Houli and Jayden Post in defence and various poor kicks.
''We worked really hard to get back into the game, then those basic mistakes … they really kill you,'' said Hardwick.
''And they're really deflating. We've just got to eradicate those.''
Richmond skipper Newman used the same word - ''deflating'' - when explaining what happened when Yarran weaved around Tigers on the boundary and threaded the goal of the evening in the final quarter.
Deflation. It's what happens when Richmond is built up in pre-season and then gets the Blues.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/another-dose-of-blues-for-tigers-20120330-1w3t4.html#ixzz1qcj5
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Hey OWL....Go and gargle a grenade! I should be able to leave a game without being subjected to the hey, hey hey goodbye song from a bunch of cro-magnons whose mob serially rort the salary cap.
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I cant believe so many people want to be molly coddled.
MT hit the nail on the head, otherwise we as well ask to be demoted to the VFL so we can play weak sides every week.
If we want any change to early season, its to ask to play sides that will give us a good work out in the pre season. A half strength geelong and then GWS turns out to be not such an ideal preparation for the real stuff
you think we lost to the scum because of our build up to Rd 1. Well what about the scum they could hardly beat the Na Na Goon seconds yet still managed to smash up by 7 goals.
Il tell you something for free we lost not because of our build up or it was because we are not good enough. Our top players went missing(Foley/Cotch aside)and our bottom 6 were a joke. Jack was selfish as always. Seems sometimes the blokes only cares about his own numbers.
If we continue to play your Tambling aka Edwards/Jackson types then we we will get smashed each and every time.
If you want to look at it sensibly, carlton had games against sides that were competitive. we won our last two games easily against a side that didn't give an eff and one that is unable to apply or absorb pressure for any length of time. we had no where near the pressure put on us in either of those games that carlton did last night. If you think that is an ideal preparation you are mad.
look at the difference in the way carlton handled the pressure we put on them. they always managed to get the ball out to someone clear, where as we fumbled, made poor decisions and poorly executed disposal due to the pressure put on us.
that comes down to a number of factors, experience being a major one, but can you say, honestly and seriously, that our last two pre season games were a good preparation to handle the pressure carlton applied?
Al if you think the Blues were really trying in the NAB cup then you are kidding yourself.
Like the Cats they couldnt care less using it as a tool to try different things.
Take the Swans as another example. Under Roos they were smashed in almost every pre season game yet season proper always came to play. NAB cup is an absolute joke as is our traditional Rd 1 match.
Supporters crap on about how much money it makes the club well again i hate to tell you we would make equal to if not more if we played the Blues in say Rd 3/4 after being 2/2 or 3/1.
Because of our loss against the Blues we will now get less numbers at the Pies game than if we say played and beaten a Port or a Bummers. FACT!!
We don't need it and for once i agree with Andy the greek. We don't deserve the big stage that honour should go to the top teams.
are your comprehension skills really that bad, or do you deliberately twist things a la jackstar just for the sake of argument? i never said anything about how hard carlton tried in the Knob cup
Nothing in this post has anything do do with what i said and is so far removed from my original post its bizarre.
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Hey OWL....Go and gargle a grenade! I should be able to leave a game without being subjected to the hey, hey hey goodbye song from a bunch of cro-magnons whose mob serially rort the salary cap.
Rolls are you talking about leaving early, or after the game has finished?
I give it to the opposition when they leave early so if i was to do the same i would expect it in return. it's easily avoided though........
for me there is nothing sweeter than seeing a stream of black and white leaving before the final siren has blown and it just must be accompanied by a song of "bye, bye, magpie", and there is no way in hell i will give them the satisfaction of being able to return the favour.
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People may not like this but we DO NOT DESERVE to Open the season against Carlton in Round 1. The AFL should take it off us. The club may like the money from the gate etc. but we dont deserve this fixture.
We are still a rabble. No pride, no commitment to success, nothing. When we become a half competent side then maybe it should happen but once again the club has failed on the big stage and the club and its supporters have been ridiculed by an arch enemy.
It makes me sick. The players should either grow some balls or stuff off!
thats a nuff nuff comment, on what basis dont we deserve it, umm errr coz vickers doesnt hold his marks. Now you listen and listen good , there were 78,000 people there on the edge of their seat for 80% of the game...thats whatya call a BLOCKBUSTER. if it were up to the nuffys theyd shchedule demons v freo first up or some such crap, but they probably dont wanna hear it :lol
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Hey OWL....Go and gargle a grenade! I should be able to leave a game without being subjected to the hey, hey hey goodbye song from a bunch of cro-magnons whose mob serially rort the salary cap.
Your post just happened to pop before I got mine out but nonetheless, why let a bunch of DH's get you upset? Water off a ducks back. If that is the worst thing that happens to me this year, I will have a pretty good year. The funniest thing is they had to play their hearts out for most of the game to get on top of us and we were 12th last year they are supposed to be premiership contenders, pigs ahhhhs. They just were not that good and we didn't play to our best, take heart.
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Hey OWL....Go and gargle a grenade! I should be able to leave a game without being subjected to the hey, hey hey goodbye song from a bunch of cro-magnons whose mob serially rort the salary cap.
Rolls are you talking about leaving early, or after the game has finished?
I give it to the opposition when they leave early so if i was to do the same i would expect it in return. it's easily avoided though........
for me there is nothing sweeter than seeing a stream of black and white leaving before the final siren has blown and it just must be accompanied by a song of "bye, bye, magpie", and there is no way in hell i will give them the satisfaction of being able to return the favour.
I admit that i leave early when a loss is immenent. I have a three and half hour drive to get home, usually have the kids, and you can add another half hour just getting out of the car park.
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understand all those things GR, i have left a couple of games out at waverly early for that reason myself, but leaving early brings satisfaction and an opportunity to gloat for the opposition. sometimes you give it, and sometimes you take it
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exactly, don't tell me we aren't gonna give them the full treatment come their turn.
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with interest :thumbsup
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but this time its personal....
so we're gonna lynch a few Carlton mums for good measure.
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understand all those things GR, i have left a couple of games out at waverly early for that reason myself, but leaving early brings satisfaction and an opportunity to gloat for the opposition. sometimes you give it, and sometimes you take it
I know, it pains me to to do it!
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People may not like this but we DO NOT DESERVE to Open the season against Carlton in Round 1. The AFL should take it off us. The club may like the money from the gate etc. but we dont deserve this fixture.
We are still a rabble. No pride, no commitment to success, nothing. When we become a half competent side then maybe it should happen but once again the club has failed on the big stage and the club and its supporters have been ridiculed by an arch enemy.
It makes me sick. The players should either grow some balls or stuff off!
10flogs ---> Emo! :-X
the only flog is you. i dont know what an emo is. our club doesnt deserve this fixture because every year our performance is nothing short of being a joke.
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we weren't great the other night but we were by no means a 'joke'. We played a top-four aspirant in a finals-like contest and were right into it until the last 10 minutes. Not the end of the world.
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AFL not committed to a GWS-Sydney season opener
Rod Nicholson
From: Herald Sun
March 31, 2012 1:00PM
THE AFL has not locked in a Sydney opening to next season despite Greater Western Sydney and the Swans filling the bill last week.
But the gala opening may move to Brisbane, rather than kicking off in Melbourne.
AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou suggested today that a match in Queensland could be of benefit because rugby league has a three-week start on the AFL season.
Despite Richmond losing to Carlton again by a considerable margin on Thursday night for the fourth consecutive season when the season kicked off in Victoria, Demetriou said he saw no reason why the Tigers would lose that opening match mantle.
"I don't see why Richmond would lose that match. The Thursday night opening in Melbourne works for us, with great opponents in big matches," he told 3AW.
Demetriou said the AFL was thrilled with another cracking start to the season in Victoria.
"Channel Seven and Fox ratings were up almost 30 per cent, live against the gate, and we had massive crowds,'' he said.
"There was great weather, cracking footy _ the Hawthorn-Collingwood match on Friday night was just super - great media build-up, a venue that was perfectly presented and great supporters who flocked to the games."
The Carlton-Richmond match attracted 78,285 on Thursday night while the Collingwood-Hawthorn match pulled a crowd of 78,464.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/afl-not-committed-to-a-gws-sydney-season-opener/story-e6frf9jf-1226315174116
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Your post just happened to pop before I got mine out but nonetheless, why let a bunch of DH's get you upset? Water off a ducks back. If that is the worst thing that happens to me this year, I will have a pretty good year. The funniest thing is they had to play their hearts out for most of the game to get on top of us and we were 12th last year they are supposed to be premiership contenders, pigs ahhhhs. They just were not that good and we didn't play to our best, take heart.
Yeah, sorry Owl, I did go in a bit boots and all on ya', but this mob just makes me see red. I despise them with such an intensity that words are inadequate to describe it. For the record I left at the 20 minute mark when they'd just gone 26 points up. There was nothing left to stay for but the inevitable blowout and hearing 40,000 neanderthal's singing that horrible dirge. Fair dinkum, that miserable song should be reserved exclusively for baby's funerals.
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Your post just happened to pop before I got mine out but nonetheless, why let a bunch of DH's get you upset? Water off a ducks back. If that is the worst thing that happens to me this year, I will have a pretty good year. The funniest thing is they had to play their hearts out for most of the game to get on top of us and we were 12th last year they are supposed to be premiership contenders, pigs ahhhhs. They just were not that good and we didn't play to our best, take heart.
Yeah, sorry Owl, I did go in a bit boots and all on ya', but this mob just makes me see red. I despise them with such an intensity that words are inadequate to describe it. For the record I left at the 20 minute mark when they'd just gone 26 points up. There was nothing left to stay for but the inevitable blowout and hearing 40,000 neanderthal's singing that horrible dirge. Fair dinkum, that miserable song should be reserved exclusively for baby's funerals.
Rolls that song should not be played full stop............
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Has it ever occurred to anyone with all the hoo-ha about whether we deserve Round 1 with the filth or not that the AFL in order to make us more competitive purposefully set us up with a horror first month or so.
Hapenned in 2009 last year and this year.
You'd think the AFL are doing everything within their power to fatally wound our season and promote the bums or the scums to play the filth
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Has it ever occurred to anyone with all the hoo-ha about whether we deserve Round 1 with the filth or not that the AFL in order to make us more competitive purposefully set us up with a horror first month or so.
Hapenned in 2009 last year and this year.
You'd think the AFL are doing everything within their power to fatally wound our season and promote the bums or the scums to play the filth
Tucker, I thought it was a point well made earlier when you mentioned that a soft draw early simply delays the problem.
I think a difficult early draw is of benefit, top 4 sides should be at their most vulnerable early and we should be fit enough to make up some ground on them in these games.
Look at the difference when we played the Blues early compared to later in the season
That was what disappointed me on Thurs night, it wasn't fitness, it was heart.
Lack of heart has been an issue for a long time and I hope they do something about it sat night.
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Your post just happened to pop before I got mine out but nonetheless, why let a bunch of DH's get you upset? Water off a ducks back. If that is the worst thing that happens to me this year, I will have a pretty good year. The funniest thing is they had to play their hearts out for most of the game to get on top of us and we were 12th last year they are supposed to be premiership contenders, pigs ahhhhs. They just were not that good and we didn't play to our best, take heart.
Yeah, sorry Owl, I did go in a bit boots and all on ya', but this mob just makes me see red. I despise them with such an intensity that words are inadequate to describe it. For the record I left at the 20 minute mark when they'd just gone 26 points up. There was nothing left to stay for but the inevitable blowout and hearing 40,000 neanderthal's singing that horrible dirge. Fair dinkum, that miserable song should be reserved exclusively for baby's funerals.
sall good everyone is peeed off about the game. I just don't like showing them scumbags they are getting me upset, unless if they touch me, then you can break their fingers off for doggie snacks.
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The AFL sees Richmond as its best chance of growth after the two new franchises. It's just a pain for us that Carlton is 2-3 years ahead of us in development so right now they are better than us onfield (more the point for us as a Club to not pump ourselves up before round 1 each year ::) ). The wheel will eventually turn when guys like Waite, Simpson, Scotland, Carrazzo and Thorton move on over the next few years. Even Judd is 28 this year while a recruit like Duigan is 27. The only players we'll lose due to age is Newy and Tucky (who is on the fringe anyway). Carlton's premiership window is on now and over the next 2-3 years while this senior core is still around. Ours won't start to open (ie. just making the finals for a start) until probably 2013-14.
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The AFL sees Richmond as its best chance of growth after the two new franchises. It's just a pain for us that Carlton is 2-3 years ahead of us in development so right now they are better than us onfield (more the point for us as a Club to not pump ourselves up before round 1 each year ::) ). The wheel will eventually turn when guys like Waite, Simpson, Scotland, Carrazzo and Thorton move on over the next few years. Even Judd is 28 this year while a recruit like Duigan is 27. The only players we'll lose due to age is Newy and Tucky (who is on the fringe anyway). Carlton's premiership window is on now and over the next 2-3 years while this senior core is still around. Ours won't start to open (ie. just making the finals for a start) until probably 2013-14.
agree totally
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The AFL sees Richmond as its best chance of growth after the two new franchises. It's just a pain for us that Carlton is 2-3 years ahead of us in development so right now they are better than us onfield (more the point for us as a Club to not pump ourselves up before round 1 each year ::) ). The wheel will eventually turn when guys like Waite, Simpson, Scotland, Carrazzo and Thorton move on over the next few years. Even Judd is 28 this year while a recruit like Duigan is 27. The only players we'll lose due to age is Newy and Tucky (who is on the fringe anyway). Carlton's premiership window is on now and over the next 2-3 years while this senior core is still around. Ours won't start to open (ie. just making the finals for a start) until probably 2013-14.
agree totally
but you still need a board, an admin, a coaching staff and the whole club moving in the right direction. A club that hates mediocrity and won't rest if there isn't any success. It should be something that's ingrained in everyone that walks into the place. Otherwise we will be the same as we've been for 30 years. Just like Melbourne, bulldogs and saints.
If you want to be one of the big boys ACT like it and DEMAND it! The only way is to demand excellence in everything you do.
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I went to McDonalds and demanded an excellent feed...
didnt work.....
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Luke Maguane, I demand that you gain the ability to kick!
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Luke Maguane, I demand that you gain the ability to kick!
It's begins at training.
Eg. The players are practicing a drill and Luke shanks the kick. Everything stops and Luke or all the players have to do 10 x 200 metre sprints as punishment and they start the drill again until they get it perfect. Just an example of demanding excellence at training & no mistake is excepted.
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I went to McDonalds and demanded an excellent feed...
didnt work.....
I think this is an excellent analysis of the situation well done Albert ;D
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What's wrong with at least playing someone you have a HOPE of beating??
The fact that we will never ever ever win another premiership if we run away from the 'too hard' teams.