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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 03, 2012, 05:10:17 AM
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Tigers get no joy from bid to shift game
Caroline Wilson
The Age
April 3, 2012
RICHMOND'S bid for a venue shift later this month, which would upstage Geelong's premiership flag celebrations, has received a lukewarm response from both the Cats and the AFL.
The Tigers late yesterday officially requested their round-four Sunday afternoon Simonds Stadium clash against the reigning premier be moved to the vacant Etihad Stadium given 25,000 fans could potentially be locked out of the smaller regional ground.
But Geelong has scorned the attempted game switch, pointing to the long-planned unfurling of its 2011 premiership flag that day and its contractual obligation to play a minimum seven games at the Kardinia Park stadium, which is being rebuilt and can fit only about 26,500 fans. Etihad's capacity is close to double that.
Tigers chief executive Brendon Gale confirmed he had unofficially approached AFL fixture bosses Gillon McLachlan and Simon Lethlean last week arguing that the Tigers' fans deserved a bigger ground for such a big game. Richmond's membership is close to 47,000.
Gale held talks with Geelong CEO Brian Cook yesterday only to be told the Cats had no intention of moving the game given their contract with local and state governments to stage seven games at Simonds and the plans that had already gone into the club's first local game for 2012 and the flag unfurling.
Gale told The Age yesterday he had pushed ahead with the bid to - at the least - sow a seed in the minds of those designing the fixture that the Tigers' strong supporter base should not be squeezed into the Geelong ground.
Of the Victorian clubs, only Richmond, Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs will make the trip to Geelong this season and the Tigers yesterday questioned why clubs such as Carlton and Essendon - which have fewer members - were not fixtured to play at Simonds.
''This is something we'll be pushing for,'' Gale said last night. ''You just wonder whether we should be fixtured down there in future and it's certainly worth making a case for this year.''
McLachlan said he had some sympathy for Richmond, but pointed to the reality that the Cats were bound to host at least seven games at home. ''You have Geelong hosting Collingwood, Hawthorn, St Kilda and Essendon away from Simonds and Richmond are saying, 'Why us?' I'd say at this stage though it's just too difficult.''
Gale said: ''I've got a responsibility on behalf of our members to push to get them into venues where as few as possible miss out. One of the guiding principles of the AFL fixture is to maximise attendances and we've got a situation here where 20,000 to 25,000 of our members are going to miss experiencing the game live.
''Etihad Stadium is vacant on the day in question and we're talking about a ground with double the current capacity of Simonds. For all those reasons we've requested the shift.''
The AFL has never shown an inclination to move games to accommodate bigger crowds claiming that stadium contractual obligations must override crowd concerns and occasional lockouts. The last time a match was switched was more than a decade ago when Etihad Stadium's surface was deemed unplayable and a game was moved to the MCG.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-get-no-joy-from-bid-to-shift-game-20120402-1w8tb.html#ixzz1quadknlC
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This is a total disgrace and this will blow up big time
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This is a total disgrace and this will blow up big time
Yes well after being told by a nuffer from the GFC that there were more than 200 tickets available to visiting members I've found out last week when I again rang them to confirm they go on sale next week that there in fact only 200 tickets available for visiting members :banghead :banghead
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So my 17 game membership from last season has effectively become 15 this year..
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Pretty dissapointing
Poor response and reason from the afl too
Rather than answer the question about carlton and essendon, they avoid it.
Regardless of who wins the flag, it is a no brainer that the two grand finalists should play in the unfurling match. They talk about trying to get big numbers to the games yet they fixture games like this??
I'm sure the bulldogs vs north game coming up in a few weeks at etihad will attract less supporters than what skilled stadium will hold, yet they continue to make these desicions.
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So my 17 game membership from last season has effectively become 15 this year..
The 17 game from 2011 is actually a 16 game this year but in light of this great decision by the AFL you are correct Mr Magic it has become a 15 game ticket this year.
Pathetic by the AFL & Geelong. IMV in 2012 Geelong shouldn't be allowed to play home games against Melb based clubs while that vile ground's capaicty has been cut back by over 2k
I've said for many a year that I've never been able to understand how Geelong can be allowed to sell 40k memeberships when they cannot cater for those members by giving them access to their own home games
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This bit of pig-head inflexibility from the AFL really highlights the way we are perceived by Vlad and co. For years they've been using the excuse that the Cattery is too small to host Coll, Ess, and Carlton crowds, but they've been happy to send us down there year after year. Now, despite us having 47,000 members and rising they still wont come to the party. Good on Benny Gale for at least trying to remind them that we are one of the big 4 clubs in terms of membership (if not performances) and it's high time we were treated with some respect.
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B.Gale is just screaming "Fire" because it's proven to get more assistance than screaming "Rape"
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This is a total disgrace and this will blow up big time
Disgrace that we are playing in Geelong or that Gale has approached Cook and the AFL?
I see nothing wrong with Gale's actions, needed to be pointed out that we shouldn't be playing down there, and at Etihad more of us can watch us lose live :rollin
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I see nothing wrong with Gale's actions, needed to be pointed out that we shouldn't be playing down there, and at Etihad more of us can watch us lose live :rollin
It's all over bah the shouting.
Gale should have fought hard on this months ago.
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Vlad showing his hatred for the Tigers again.
Can't stand the idiot.
Keep buying memberships.
Stick it up em!
Why do we get Geelong At Geelong every stuffing year?
stuff and Vlad.
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I see nothing wrong with Gale's actions, needed to be pointed out that we shouldn't be playing down there, and at Etihad more of us can watch us lose live :rollin
It's all over bah the shouting.
Gale should have fought hard on this months ago.
I think he wouldv'e fought hard months ago, but now making a statements as we have the members numbers to back up his claims?
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Gale said: ''I've got a responsibility on behalf of our members to push to get them into venues where as few as possible miss out. One of the guiding principles of the AFL fixture is to maximise attendances and we've got a situation here where 20,000 to 25,000 of our members are going to miss experiencing the game live.
let's get real here Benny the correct number is 45k+ will miss out not 20-25k
The AFL & GFC should be ashamed
Although the AFL will come out and say people can watch it live on TV if they can't get there >:(... so true if you have Foxtel ;D
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This is a total disgrace and this will blow up big time
Disgrace that we are playing in Geelong or that Gale has approached Cook and the AFL?
I see nothing wrong with Gale's actions, needed to be pointed out that we shouldn't be playing down there, and at Etihad more of us can watch us lose live :rollin
Disgrace that the game was scheduled there in the first place when they (AFL) knew that that ground was restricted due to building new stand :banghead
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Here's the article on the RFC website:
Richmond’s request to have its Round 4 match against Geelong at Simonds Stadium shifted, has been denied.
Full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/132132/default.aspx
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something is wrong here
I just received an email from the club saying I can purchase a reserve seat for $32.80 for the Geelong game
I have purchased tickets reserve seats for the game at the best stadium in the country (MCG)for this sat night for $14.35
WHO IS RIPPING WHO OFF
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Now I have to pay extra to attend?
How about a refund reducing the cost of my membership to 15 games?
In all seriousness it's a bit of a mess.
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Based on the fact that the general admission component of access to Skilled Stadium is included within your home and away membership, you will have the opportunity to purchase one of these seats from Richmond at the price of $32.80 which is the $54.10 seat less the GA component of $21.30. The concession seat price is $30.00 and the junior price is $13.90. To purchase your ticket to the Round 4 game please click here. Please note ONE ticket per eligible home and away member.
RFC WHAT A DISGRACE.
especially when we can get a reserved seat at the G on saturday night for $14.75
More to do with Geelong and the AFL, wouldn't be an issue if we were not playing there :banghead
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Hold on a tick JVT
RFC has purchased these tickets an on selling them,
how on earth is a ticket to Geelong worth $54.
You can go to the luxury of Etihad for $45.00 less memberships
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You should be having a go at geelong Jack, they set the price, not RFC ::)
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jack get a grip
Blame Geelong
Suggest you look at their prices and what they charge before you go off
This is not the fault of the RFC
And BTW regarding the "change" from 16 tom 15 game
Blame the AFL & Geelong for that too
The RFC were only notified oabout the problems down there in Feb = FACT
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was the membership changed to 15 because we play a home game in cairns?
No I would'nt expect the club to subsidise entry to away games for members. That would just further encourage this poo.
Have a go at Geelong and the AFL over this one. I'm sure your find plenty of other opportunity to have a go at richmond
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Here you go fromt he AFL web-site prices down at Simmonds Stadium
2012 TICKET PRICES
FLANAGAN ROOM PREMIUM RESERVED GENERAL ADMISSION#
ADULT $83.10 $64.10 $54.10 $25.95
CONCESSION $72.30 $53.30 $43.30 $16.20
JUNIOR $30.90 $21.40 $16.40 $3.90
FLANAGAN ROOM PREMIUM RESERVED GENERAL ADMISSION#
GEEL MEMBER – ADULT $55.15 $37.35 $27.35 $4.20
GEEL MEMBER – CONC $54.10 $36.30 $26.30 $4.20
GEEL MEMBER – JUN $25.30 $16.40 $11.40 $1.40
FLANAGAN ROOM PREMIUM RESERVED GENERAL ADMISSION#
VISITING MEMBER – ADULT* $61.35 $42.35 $32.35 $ 4.20
VISITING MEMBER – CONC* $60.30 $41.30 $31.30 $4.20
VISITING MEMBER – JUN* $28.40 $18.90 $13.90 $1.40
http://www.afl.com.au/simonds%20stadium/tabid/17302/default.aspx
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Well all done
I am off to that pathetic excuse for an AFL venue Simmonds Stadium in round 4
Thanks to the RFC membership team for your efforts in getting the best possible outcome for your members :clapping :clapping
:thumbsup
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AFL run by monkeys.
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AFL run by monkeys.
So is Jackstars brain ;)
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AFL run by monkeys.
So is Jackstars brain ;)
and why would that be ?
My point it is cheaper to go to Etihad than Geelong
And if you read my posts, a ticket for the G on saturday night for members is $14.75.
To Geelong in 2 weeks, $32.00
You work that out GENIUS !!!
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and why would that be ?
My point it is cheaper to go to Etihad than Geelong
And if you read my posts, a ticket for the G on saturday night for members is $14.75.
To Geelong in 2 weeks, $32.00
You work that out GENIUS !!!
Fair enough Jack but you were carrying on like the RFC was swindling us all by selling the tickets at some sort of mark-up. Which clearly isn't the case
Prices down there have always been over the top for what you get. Perhaps that's how they manage to make a minimum of $600k for a home game
And let's be honest I suppose they have to pay for that new stand somehow :whistle
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well something is seriously wrong when Tickets to Geelong are double those for the G.
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lets not mention the $30-00 in fuel to get there and back
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well something is seriously wrong when Tickets to Geelong are double those for the G.
Agree but seeing Geelong control that ground they can do what they like when it comes to prices for reserved seats and obviously they do
Most important thing is the RFC has done the best they can in the circumstances for their members
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B.Gale is just screaming "Fire" because it's proven to get more assistance than screaming "Rape"
:thumbsup
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Carlton havent played there since 1999 and they have the same membership as us,
why did we accept the draw when it came out in October last year, when everyone knew the stand was then being demolished. :huh
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Bums last played there in 1993
Filth last played there in 1996
Scums last played there in 1999
Are there any tickets left and if so can I still get one? I am really keen on going.
Do I need to contact the RFC?
I went on the website and said tix are being sold 10th and 12th of April.
Help will be appreciated.
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You need to be a club member with full membership of 16 adult games.you need to log in with your acccount details
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Thanks Jack. :thumbsup
Got onto my email and received one from the RFC having a 16 game membership. :thumbsup
Logged on and purchased my ticket. :thumbsup
Will be making the trip. :thumbsup
See you boys down there. :thumbsup
Thank you to the RFC. :thumbsup
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why did we accept the draw when it came out in October last year, when everyone knew the stand was then being demolished. :huh
Jack which part of this do you not understand or refuse to understand
1/ The GFC didn't tell the AFL and therefore the other Clubs how many tickets they would have available for visting members until earlier this year
2/ Clubs can jump up & down all they like and depsite wishlists and complaints the AFL determines the final draw. it isn't a case of the RFC or any other club "accepting" or rejecting the draw Clubs are told this is the draw end of story.
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The RFC were only notified oabout the problems down there in Feb = FACT
I'd like to hear that from the club officially.
If it's confirmed as fact I'll retract my criticism.
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Have to say the RFC have done a terrific job with this
Granted not all 16 game members are going to be able to get a ticket but by taking control of the tickets the Club has made sure those who have paid for the 16 game memberships get first crack. What sort of guarantee would there have been if it was left to ticketmaster
But the Club has don'r something , easiest thing in the world would have been to sit back do nothing and say it's all too hard and it's not our problem
Again well done RFC :bow
The RFC were only notified oabout the problems down there in Feb = FACT
I'd like to hear that from the club officially.
If it's confirmed as fact I'll retract my criticism.
that's what I got told last week by someone from the Club when I rang up to find out how/if the 16 game membership would give access to the game.
So unless i've completely misunderstood what i was told then I'm taking them at their word
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Effing bunnies
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I work in the building industry and have involvement in this project - at Geelong
Everyone including the AFL and teams scheduled to play there knew of restrictions at the stadium late last year.games could of been rescheduled and moved then.thats life.
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Might further add that I attended a site meeting there 6 months ago.so someone is telling porkies to suit there needs
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I work in the building industry and have involvement in this project - at Geelong
Everyone including the AFL and teams scheduled to play there knew of restrictions at the stadium late last year.games could of been rescheduled and moved then.thats life.
Yes Jack everyone knew late last year that the thing was beig redeveloped and it would have reduced capicity that is not in dispute
What wasn't known then was how many tickets/seats Geelong would make available to visting teams.
And isn't the issue here the fact that visiting clubs are only getting 200 tickets allocated to them?
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AFL havent got much idea of late, so per the Mifsud episode last night ::)
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AFL havent got much idea of late, so per the Mifsud episode last night ::)
Double standards at its very best is the Mifsud episode
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He is one of many who shouldn't have a job
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Mifsud should be given the boot, clearly at fault over the Rendell situation and now Neeld in the space of 3 weeks.
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I work in the building industry and have involvement in this project - at Geelong
Everyone including the AFL and teams scheduled to play there knew of restrictions at the stadium late last year.games could of been rescheduled and moved then.thats life.
Yes Jack everyone knew late last year that the thing was beig redeveloped and it would have reduced capicity that is not in dispute
What wasn't known then was how many tickets/seats Geelong would make available to visting teams.
And isn't the issue here the fact that visiting clubs are only getting 200 tickets allocated to them?
clear as mud. :thumbsup
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Richmond shouldn’t dictate where away games are played
By Michael DiFabrizio
theroar.com.au
4 Apr 2012
News surfaced yesterday that Richmond CEO Brendon Gale had last month attempted to get his club’s Round 4 clash with Geelong shifted away from Simonds Stadium.
The fixture was locked in for Geelong’s unfurling of the premiership flag, but Gale clearly wasn’t feeling sentimental about playing out in the sticks.
“I’ve got a responsibility on behalf of our members to push to get them into venues where as few as possible miss out,” Gale said.
“One of the guiding principles of the AFL fixture is to maximise attendances and we’ve got a situation here where 20,000 to 25,000 of our members are going to miss experiencing the game live. Etihad Stadium is vacant on the day in question and we’re talking about a ground with double the current capacity of Simonds.”
What a joke.
It’s Geelong’s home game so they should, as often as possible, be able to play it where they wish.
Sure, more of Richmond’s members may be able to attend if it was in Melbourne – but why should the venue of a Geelong home game be decided by Richmond members?
It’s ludicrous. Especially considering that were the game moved to Melbourne, there would be Geelong members that miss out (the time and money it costs to get up the highway should not be underestimated).
But what truly made Gale’s suggestion out of whack was two factors that Caroline Wilson, the Richmond-supporting journalist who broke the story, failed to mention.
The first is that only last year, Geelong played a home game against the Tigers at Etihad. It attracted just 33,761 supporters. (25,000 Richmond members missing out? Err, where were they all that day?)
The second point is that if the Tigers are truly so appalled about their members missing out on an away game, perhaps they need to look at the venue of their Round 16 home game.
Yep, that’s right. It’s in Cairns.
Not sure how many members will be able to make it up to that one.
While Gale was partly pushing ahead with his club’s request to ensure they don’t get games in Geelong down the track, the fact that he’s made a big deal out of this year’s fixture was poor form.
If your club is going to sell a home game, you can’t expect other clubs to give up their home games to compensate you.
Some might say that he had a point when he said Carlton and Essendon – who have (slightly) fewer members than the Tigers – don’t travel to the Cattery.
But that was a dud point too. The Blues and Bombers were finalists last year. One of them beat the Cats, the other lost only after a concussed ruckman missed a set shot from 15m out with less than two minutes remaining.
Clearly, a clash between either of them and Geelong has the potential to explode into a blockbuster. You cannot say the same thing when Richmond is the opponent. Not yet, anyway.
Make it to September, and develop even a minor modern-day rivalry with the Cats. Then, Brendon, you can get back to us.
http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/04/04/richmond-shouldnt-dictate-where-away-games-are-played/
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Agree with that muppet. Gale should shut the eff up.
The only point worth making is why didn't Carlton, Essendon or Collingwood play down there when they were poo and had eff all members? Carlton were the worst performing team of the decade and at one stage had about 40 members left. Yet when did they last play down there?
The fixture isn't fair, we all know that, just get on with it FFS
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Michael DiFabrizio goes bang. Cop that :lol
Well said too
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Michael DiFabrizio goes bang. Cop that :lol
Well said too
Yep. Over to you Benny.
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thats alright once we get up and about they
will be all screaming to play us. :lol
i ask how can a club that has been so successful
still fail to attract members...strange.
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We shouldn't be in this position in the first place with so many members.
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We shouldn't be in this position in the first place with so many members.
Correct, now bend over!
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The guy is a crock. We are part of the Big 4. Give us all the takings and we'll consider it.
Otherwise shut the stuff up and move the game.
I earnt the right to sit in the locker room bar and occasionally glance at the TV when we kick a goal by being a supporter of a Big 4 team.
Now I have to do that at home :banghead
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The RFC should have a say where we play all our games, forget the other muppet clubs, we should dictate it all!! Just like Collingwood :rollin :lol
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A no-brainer: it's Cats-Tigers at the 'G'
Charles Happell
Backpagelead.com.au
Sunday, 15 April 2012 22:24
Round four of the AFL throws up one of those fixturing anomalies that would have been easy enough to explain away when the draw was first released but now, three rounds into the new season, seems just plain ridiculous.
Richmond is due to travel down to Simonds Stadium (the ground formerly known as Kardinia Park) for the 1pm game against Geelong on Sunday. The Tigers, after a strong win over Melbourne and competitive opening efforts again Carlton and Collingwood, are ready to emit one of their throaty early-season roars - and their fans would have turned out in numbers to see them take on the 2011 premiers.
But Skilled Stadium is undergoing an upgrade at the moment, so the capacity is 24,500. That will mean the yellow-and-black contingent will be next to anonymous in the sell-out Geelong crowd. And the fact the Cats will unfurl their premiership pennant from last year will mean visitors' tickets are even more scarce than usual.
Meanwhile, the late match scheduled for the MCG on Sunday is Melbourne's home game against the Western Bulldogs - a contest that might, on the most generous assessment, attract 30-35,000 fans. (The corresponding fixture at Etihad last season drew 29,500.) Given that both teams are winless, and struggling badly, the match will provide much-needed succour for one club.
So the solution for the AFL - on the surface, at least - is simple: switch the two games. Play Geelong-Richmond in the early match at the MCG; Melbourne-Bulldogs in the twilight game at Etihad.
The Cats and Tigers would surely attract a crowd of 70,000 at the MCG - maybe many more on a nice day - in (faint) echoes of their great grudge matches of the 1960s. (Or, put another way, 45,000 more than will get to see the game as it's currently scheduled.)
And as for the Demons giving up a home game at the 'G' .... Well they chose to play a home game at Docklands in round 21 last year when they hosted West Coast - so it's not as if there's no precedent there.
Earlier this month, Richmond CEO Brendon Gale said he had attempted in March to get this clash moved from Simonds Stadium.
“I’ve got a responsibility on behalf of our members to push to get them into venues where as few as possible miss out,” Gale said. ''One of the guiding principles of the AFL fixture is to maximise attendances and we’ve got a situation here where 20,000 to 25,000 of our members are going to miss experiencing the game live. Etihad Stadium is vacant on the day in question and we’re talking about a ground with double the current capacity of Simonds.”
That didn't cut much ice with the AFL - or Geelong for that matter, who enjoy a massive home-ground advantage at Simonds/Skilled/Shell (etc) Stadium.
But, as Gale rightly points out, AFL CEO Andrew Demetriou has said for years that the league's guiding principle when putting together its season fixture is maximising attendances.That's why Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon and Richmond pretty much get to play each other twice every season - and then the poorer-drawing clubs kind of fill in the gaps around those blockbusters.
Demetriou was quoted in The Age recently when talking about the league's fixturing policy: "Our starting point is to grow attendances … We use our fixture and schedule to try to maximise attendance, we do that unashamedly."
Well, boys, have we got a doozy of a suggestion for you? And all it requires is a bit of leadership and intestinal fortitude.
http://www.backpagelead.com.au/afl/6226-a-no-brainer-its-cats-tigers-at-the-g
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Good idea, won't happen though.
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Geelong's stadium redevelopment will strip $1 million from its bottom line this year and allow just more than 1000 Richmond supporters to see Sunday's clash.
The Cats will unfurl their premiership flag in front of more than 20,000 members, but work on a new 9000-seat southern stand will slash ground capacity.
The Tigers had tried to have the game moved, but Geelong chief executive Brian Cook said Richmond would still be represented.
The Richmond cheer squad will have 100 seats (down on 320 allowed at the MCG) and some supporters have booked some of the 400 seats and 1500 standing room tickets.
"The game is a sell-out," Cook said.
"We have a capacity of 22,000 and there are 20,500 seats and 1500 standing room tickets.
"Two weeks ago, we put out what tickets there were ... and they all went."
Cook said the Cats would lose $1 million on reserved ticket revenue but the new stand would see ground capacity rise to 35,500.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/geelong-in-search-of-hard-edge/story-e6frepf6-1226331508435
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Geelong's stadium redevelopment will strip $1 million from its bottom line this year and allow just more than 1000 Richmond supporters to see Sunday's clash.
The Cats will unfurl their premiership flag in front of more than 20,000 members, but work on a new 9000-seat southern stand will slash ground capacity.
The Tigers had tried to have the game moved, but Geelong chief executive Brian Cook said Richmond would still be represented.
The Richmond cheer squad will have 100 seats (down on 320 allowed at the MCG) and some supporters have booked some of the 400 seats and 1500 standing room tickets.
Absolute crap Brian >:(
Members of Richmond with 16 game memberships had 200 tickets allocated for purchase which the RFC purchased and on sold to guarantee they went to RFC members only
The remaining "seats & standing room" tickets were put on sale the general public - which meant anyone including Geelong members without reserve seats could buy them....
DOn't make it sound like you looked after visting supporters, you haven't & didn't. Actually you not even lookng after your own members, 20K supposedly going out of 35k+ ::)
What's just as farcial is the fact that once the development is finished capacity will only be 31k ...... so you still wont be able to cater for the public
Tiges: quciker we start consistently wiining the sooner we wont have to visit that pathetci excuse for an AFL venue