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Title: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: one-eyed on April 03, 2012, 02:28:29 PM
Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys
Simon White
WA today
April 3, 2012



Fellas - and maybe ladies - I'm sure you all know the guy I'm talking about.

He's the one lumping two screaming kids around the shopping centre. His clothes are crumpled, the bags under his eyes betray his lack of sleep and, to top it all off, his wife is berating him for some perceived wrongdoing in a really annoying voice.

In short, he's the bloke you look at and say "Jeez, I'm glad I'm not that guy".

He's also a Richmond fan. Not necessarily literally but certainly figuratively. Because no team makes you say "I wouldn't want to be one of their supporters" like the boys in yellow-and-black.

Don't get me wrong, I've always had a soft spot for the Tigers.

They have (by some margin) the best club song in the competition. Matthew Richardson was the most likeable superstar of the last 20 years. One of my best mates from primary school, Sweens, is a lifelong Richmond man.

But it's telling that Sweens also works on coping mechanisms to deal with Tiger disappointments. This year it's convincing himself that Richmond will lose every game, meaning any win will be a bonus.

As a Fremantle supporter, I can't say what it's been like to be a Richmond fan for the past 20 years, but I can have bit of a guess.

The Dockers have played six finals (for two wins) since entering the competition in 1995 - the same record that Richmond has since losing the 1982 grand final.

The big difference, however, is that Fremantle has never won anything, while Richmond - between 1967 and the end of 1982 - played in 27 finals, made seven grand finals and won five premierships.

So you take a club with that record of success, factor in 30 barren years and then throw in, by way of just a few examples, the following:

* Taking Richard Lounder (four games) and Anthony Banik (49) with the No. 1 picks of the 1987 and 1989 drafts. OK, so drafting wasn't the comparatively exact science it is now but Graham Wright went at No. 3 in 1987 and Peter Matera, Gavin Wanganeen and Ben Allan went inside the first 14 picks in 1989.
   
* Selecting Richard Tambling instead of Lance Franklin in the 2004 draft. No further explanation required.
   
* Nathan Brown (then on Brownlow Medal pace) and Mark Coughlan (fairest-and-best aged 21) suffering serious injuries and never being the same players again.
   
* Richardson missing the best part of three full seasons through injury and still finishing his career with 282 games and 800 goals - but only three finals.
   
* The AFL scheduling blockbuster Thursday night season-openers against a traditional rival (Carlton), the past four of which you've lost by an average of more than 50 points in front of a national audience.


But I'm thinking - and again this is merely a guess from an outsider looking on - that the hardest thing of all about being a Tigers fan is going into each winter hoping this one will be different.

And then realising that it might not be.

I got sucked into the Richmond hope this year. I looked at team built around Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio, Nathan Foley, Dustin Martin and Jack Riewoldt and thought "they might actually be quite good" (without considering who their teammates might be).

I tipped the Tigers against Carlton last week. Craziest of all, I wrote that they were my "gut feel" selection to make the eight.

By the end of last Thursday night, the main feeling I had in my gut was an empty one - for Sweens and all the rest of the Richmond mob.

I should have spoken to Sweens before I wrote or tipped anything. As he let me know me on Monday, the bottom six players in Richmond's team aren't necessarily all that much chop (watching the Carlton game, I at least answered the question of "whatever happened to Brad Miller?").

Then again, as Sweens also pointed out, the Tigers got within a goal of a top-four contender in the last quarter. If Martin had converted a set shot six minutes into the final term, the margin would have been back to just a point.

Ah hell, here I go again. If...could...would...should.

And I note that the Tigers have an extra day's break headed into their clash with Collingwood on Saturday. Perhaps the Pies will be bruised and battered from their epic clash with Hawthorn last week. Maybe that upset I tipped is still to come.

If it's this hard for me - a neutral - then imagine how tough it is on Richmond fans.

They get to sing a darn good song occasionally but, for the moment, I'm glad I'm not one of those guys.

http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/blogs/white-or-wrong/richmond-fansim-glad-im-not-those-guys-20120402-1w8ap.html#ixzz1qwqFuTnQ
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: JVT on April 03, 2012, 02:35:46 PM
Geez they are acting like we lost a game we were certain to win. Carlton are a top 4 side with what looks to be the premier ruckman in the comp if he stays fit . . . whats the deal with Melbourne and St Kilda??  :shh
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 03, 2012, 02:46:10 PM
Whoever wrote that is an idiot. He goes for Freo :sleep
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Tiger Tragic on April 03, 2012, 03:15:37 PM
I didn't even think Freo had supporters.  Now I know that they do, I definitely wouldn't want to be one of them.

1.  Having to wear purple to the games.

2. Singing a club song with a total of 4 words

3. Not having any heritage to your club, just a mish mash of other cultures

4. Being perennial underachievers notwithstanding having one of the brightest lists in the comp and the most compelling home ground.

I'm sure I could think of more.
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: JVT on April 03, 2012, 03:25:53 PM
Whats a Freo?
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Mr Magic on April 03, 2012, 03:46:06 PM
Geez they are acting like we lost a game we were certain to win. Carlton are a top 4 side with what looks to be the premier ruckman in the comp if he stays fit . . . whats the deal with Melbourne and St Kilda??  :shh

Yeah I have been coping that all week from numbnuts opposition supporters.
I just reckon plenty have done their tips on based purely on practice match results and been burned.
We've been overrated.
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Penelope on April 03, 2012, 04:08:55 PM
is it legal to shoot supporters from other clubs that say they have a soft spot for us because we have the best song?

Don't want to be your second team and don't want your sympathy

bugger off

Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: bojangles17 on April 03, 2012, 05:35:06 PM
who is this james blunt and what does he stand for, sheesh he's clutching at straws with 25 year draft stories, what next JFK conspiracies :lol....My advice is he needs to blow his story right back up the woofer coz, listen carefully come real close now....drafting LOUNDER has ;stuff all to do with the side that runs out SAT night :shh
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Smokey on April 03, 2012, 07:06:31 PM
 :lol

Funny piece that made me laugh.  Helps to laugh at yourself every now and then and this article was non-confrontational to me.
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: dwaino on April 03, 2012, 07:12:15 PM

 I looked at team built around Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio, Nathan Foley, Dustin Martin and Jack Riewoldt and thought "they might actually be quite good" (without considering who their teammates might be).


lol that's actually on the money.
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: yellowandback on April 03, 2012, 07:32:23 PM
:lol

Funny piece that made me laugh.  Helps to laugh at yourself every now and then and this article was non-confrontational to me.

There is plenty to laugh at!

Whether you like it or not, it is so easy bagging out the Tigers.
I remember doing the same stuff in the early 80s to Saints, Bulldog and Demon fans.

I don't really think the article is as much about r1 as it is about 30 years.
It is a poorly, written superficially critical piece born out of boredom from a town that lives on the exhaust fumes of a Catapillar Dump truck.
But it is what it is.
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Smokey on April 03, 2012, 07:40:37 PM

There is plenty to laugh at!

Whether you like it or not, it is so easy bagging out the Tigers.

Yep, but if you believe we are on the right path then it is easy to laugh at.  Because we will have the loudest last laugh ever at clown teams like Freo or hated enemies like the cheating scum Filth when we win our next flag and the reason is because it will happen before either of them win theirs.
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 03, 2012, 08:38:51 PM
The Fremantle Footy Club is a disgrace.

To mention Richard Lounder when the array of superstars they have passed on or picked up instead resemles a cavalcade of whimsy.

Done to stir the pot.

At Christmas time small gifts that are usually cheap and resemble in some cases the esteem the buyer has for the receiver are referred to as stocking fillers an article like this along the same lines but is referred to as a page filler.

Ignore and move on.

Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: yellowandback on April 03, 2012, 08:42:02 PM

There is plenty to laugh at!

Whether you like it or not, it is so easy bagging out the Tigers.

Yep, but if you believe we are on the right path then it is easy to laugh at.  Because we will have the loudest last laugh ever at clown teams like Freo or hated enemies like the cheating scum Filth when we win our next flag and the reason is because it will happen before either of them win theirs.

Totally agree there Smokey  :thumbsup
The laugh will be last - as we will need to put together a couple of really decent seasons before we shut up the knockers for good. A flag would be nice  :cheers
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Smokey on April 03, 2012, 08:46:14 PM

The laugh will be last - as we will need to put together a couple of really decent seasons before we shut up the knockers for good. A flag would be nice  :cheers

That's the one!   :thumbsup

Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: gerkin greg on April 03, 2012, 09:39:33 PM
Didn't we absolutely belt Freo last year? That must have fisted.
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: F0551L on April 03, 2012, 10:43:18 PM
simon white = richard head
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: mat073 on April 04, 2012, 12:28:44 PM
Someone needs to remind this idiot that Fremantle have beaten Richmond only once in their last six encounters.

He mentions Lounder.....anyone remember their Pygmy sized/ helmet wearing full forward  John Hutton ( no of course you dont- why would you ?)

He mentions Brown and Cogs....well what about their inaugural captain Ben Allen who practically played on one leg in his 47 game career at Freo.

What about the Peter Bell fiasco when they delisted him after two games.

Didn't they select Chris Groom (7 games) ahead of Andrew McCloud.

Only at loser clubs are players like Sean Mcmanus gifted 228 games.

Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: gerkin greg on April 04, 2012, 01:04:23 PM
Traded pick 1 & 36 to Hawthorn for Trent Croad
Hawks used those picks on Luke Hodge and Sam Mitchell
Then Croad went back to Hawthorn after just 38 games
Freo got pick 10 in return which they used on Ryley Dunn (8 games)

 :ROTFL

Took Todd Ridley (21 games) from Essendon in return for a compensation pick in the pre-season draft.
The Bombers used that pick on Matthew Lloyd.

 :ROTFL

Traded Andew McLeod for Chris Groom (7 games)

 :ROTFL

Drafted Jeff White (32 games) with pick 1

 :ROTFL

where does it end?
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: gerkin greg on April 04, 2012, 01:09:51 PM
They have a 40% winning record over their entire history

 :ROTFL
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: gerkin greg on April 04, 2012, 01:11:06 PM
Freo Way To Go

 :ROTFL
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on April 04, 2012, 02:11:52 PM
The rat has spoken  :bow
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Tiger Tragic on April 04, 2012, 02:12:46 PM
Traded pick 1 & 36 to Hawthorn for Trent Croad
Hawks used those picks on Luke Hodge and Sam Mitchell
Then Croad went back to Hawthorn after just 38 games
Freo got pick 10 in return which they used on Ryley Dunn (8 games)

 :ROTFL

Took Todd Ridley (21 games) from Essendon in return for a compensation pick in the pre-season draft.
The Bombers used that pick on Matthew Lloyd.

 :ROTFL

Traded Andew McLeod for Chris Groom (7 games)

 :ROTFL

Drafted Jeff White (32 games) with pick 1

 :ROTFL

where does it end?

That poo needs to go in the comments section of his Blog.  Absolutely hilarious. 
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: RFC_Official on April 04, 2012, 03:50:05 PM
The article gets a run in today's podcast...will be up this arvo.
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: gerkin greg on April 04, 2012, 04:43:16 PM
Actually don't mind Freo supporters. All the ones i've met have been ripper blokes. They're up for some good banter at games too – and after  :cheers
Probably stems from their losing culture.

Weagles supporters on the other hand  :chuck
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 04, 2012, 05:12:25 PM
Cmon guys. He was empathising with us. And if you can't laugh at the fact that we have been a joke for 30 years then your living in a dream world.
I laughed at his article & agreed with it.
I also agreed with his mate Sweeny who doesn't expect us to win so when we do it's a bonus. I've been doing this for 10 years now.

The ONLY thing that gets me upset is losing to Carlscum. 
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Coach on April 04, 2012, 05:21:59 PM
Mr
Cmon guys. He was empathising with us. And if you can't laugh at the fact that we have been a joke for 30 years then your living in a dream world.
I laughed at his article & agreed with it.
I also agreed with his mate Sweeny who doesn't expect us to win so when we do it's a bonus. I've been doing this for 10 years now.

The ONLY thing that gets me upset is losing to Carlscum. 

Hello....anybody home. ;)

Only second quarter but good to see the tigers playing with a little passion.
yes I'm at home. Wouldn't want to waste my Sunday arvo on a mediocre team watching mediocre skills by mediocre players.
At home the beer is cheaper too.  :thumbsup

Hmmm.


Edit: leave out the personal insults
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 04, 2012, 05:41:06 PM
Mr
Cmon guys. He was empathising with us. And if you can't laugh at the fact that we have been a joke for 30 years then your living in a dream world.
I laughed at his article & agreed with it.
I also agreed with his mate Sweeny who doesn't expect us to win so when we do it's a bonus. I've been doing this for 10 years now.

The ONLY thing that gets me upset is losing to Carlscum. 

Hello....anybody home. ;)

Only second quarter but good to see the tigers playing with a little passion.
yes I'm at home. Wouldn't want to waste my Sunday arvo on a mediocre team watching mediocre skills by mediocre players.
At home the beer is cheaper too.  :thumbsup

Hmmm.
I was there in 1980 mate I've seen a premiership.  :cheers



Edit: quote edited
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Coach on April 04, 2012, 05:47:56 PM
Showed up when we were good aye ;D
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: gerkin greg on April 04, 2012, 05:52:00 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 04, 2012, 05:58:47 PM
Showed up when we were good aye ;D
whatever coach.

I was a Titus ton up member for over 10 years never missed a game in those days and that's when we were getting thrashed most weeks.
I still support the club i'm just not as feral now so losing doesn't ruin my whole week like it used to.
Now I go when I can but i don't schedule my life around the fixture like I used to.
I know where your coming from I was like that too but now I just enjoy footy and watching my son play on the weekend.
 
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: Coach on April 04, 2012, 06:17:04 PM
Doesn't mind the report system this dude :shh

get ready for Geez
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: one-eyed on April 04, 2012, 06:33:51 PM
Back to the topic ppl!
Title: Re: Richmond fans...I'm glad I'm not those guys (WA today)
Post by: rogerd3 on April 04, 2012, 08:07:45 PM
franchise team that really hasnt done squat

and probably never will.

take note

GWS and GCS.